* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] CAREFUL ON YOUR WORDING THERE. [*This meeting was joined in progress*] OKAY. UM, [6. PRESENTATION FOR DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO A REVISED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT 480 THIS WAY IN LOT 2-B, BLOCK 2, PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, SECTION 4] SO YES, I THINK, UM, WE'D BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH, UH, ON THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET STORE. WHAT WE PROPOSE, I THINK IS GONNA BE PLENTY, MORE THAN ENOUGH. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THE PARKING WE MADE ON THE BACK IS ALWAYS GONNA BE EMPTY. UM, JUST NO NEED FOR IT. BUT WE'LL STILL MAKE IT JUST TO SATISFY, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF LAKE JACKSON OR GET CLOSE TO SATISFYING IT. AND THAT'S THE INSIGHT OF THE STORY. NICE. PRETTY STORY. WE WANNA MAKE THE LAKE JACKSON ONE EVEN PRETTIER. YEAH. JUST, JUST SHOW OFF WHAT WE CAN DO. THAT JUST SHOWS TRAFFIC COUNTS. OBJECTION SITE PLAN. OKAY. WE COULD JUST KEEP PUT ON THE, JUST YEAH, WE COULD JUST KEEP IT HERE. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD. 12 OR SO. UH, IN REVIEWING, UH, THIS, UH, THIS RENDITION OR THIS, UH, CONCEPT HERE, UH, WE FOUND OUT, UH, THROUGH, UH, APPLYING, FIRST OF ALL THE FIRE LANE CONDITION REQUIREMENTS OF THE FIRE MARSHAL ASKED THAT THREE OF THOSE PARKING SPACES WOULD NOT BE, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, ALLOWED, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE TRUCKS. OKAY. FIRE ACCESS LANE. THE FIRE, THE FIRE LANE, THE FIRE LANE BAR FOR ANOTHER TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO COVER THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING. AND THOSE ARE THE, UH, THE UPPER, THE UPPER RIGHT PARKING SPACES THAT YOU SEE THERE, THERE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE TO UNDER, UNDER AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. DO YOU WANNA BORROW MINE UP THE TOP? YEAH. OKAY. THREE SPACES WOULD NOT COUNT UNDER A SITUATION WHERE THE FIRE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED. I MEAN, THAT WOULD A FILING THE WAY THE, UH, HIS REQUIREMENT. SO THEREFORE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IN MY MODEL, TABULATION THEORY SHOWS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLAIMING FOUR, BUT EFFECTIVELY ONLY ONE BASED ON THAT CONDITION. NOW, THOSE WILL WOULD BE WORKING WITHOUT, UNDER, UNDER A, UH, IT WOULD, THEY WOULD BE OPEN. THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER TYPE OF CONDITIONS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THOSE, WHETHER YOU CONSIDER THOSE AS PART OF THAT ONE. AND IT ONLY BECOME A, UH, 21 DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. SO THAT IS, THAT IS ONE OF THE SITUATIONS THE FIRE MARSHAL DID THAT. UH, THEY ALSO, THEY ALSO, UH, FOUND OUT THIS PARTICULAR LADY, THE WAY IT'S BEING DESIGNED, WILL NOT BE, WOULD NOT BE ON THE PROPER SIZE FOR THEIR GO NEGOTIATE FOR THEIR, UH, RADIUS TURN FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT. SO THEN WE'VE TO HAVE SOME, I THINK WE DISCUSS THAT WITH, WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE ENGINEER, DESIGN ENGINEER. HE, THAT IF JUST CALL A TWO-WAY, I MEAN TWO LANES. AND THAT'S, UH, ALSO DISCUSSION THAT WAS BROUGHT OFF BY, BY EDDIE, UH, CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION THERE. AND HE WAS MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO-WAY WOULD BE ADEQUATE. SAME ONE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR NOT TO TURN TO THAT. UH, IS IT LOCATED PRIMARY DUE TO THE, UH, CUT FOR THE BOULEVARD? WELL CUT. THERE IS A CUT. THAT'S WHY ALL SET. SO, UH, THOSE ARE, AND NOW ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME WAS THE, UH, YOU AWARE OF THAT [00:05:02] IT HAS TO BE RELOCATED TO ANOTHER, TO ANOTHER LOCATION? GO IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER? UH, WELL, I DON'T MEAN, SO THERE ARE NOTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED. OTHER, OTHER, ON THE, THE DRAINS STORAGE THAT SOMETHING ON THE ELEVATIONS OR I WOULD THINK IT WILL. CAN I ADDRESS A FEW THINGS? YES, SIR. UH, THE, THE DUMPSTER IS, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR THAT. THAT'S NOT REALLY A CONCERN. MY THOUGHT ON THE FIRETRUCK COMING IN HERE, UH, THIS STREET HAS TWO LANES. WHEN A FIRETRUCK'S COMING, THEY CAN GET IN THE OUTSIDE LANE AND TURN IN HERE, WHICH INCREASES THAT RADIUS. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK. WE CAN ALWAYS INCREASE THE RADIUS. THAT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. UH, AND THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHT. IF, IF THERE'S A FIRE IN A CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY'S GONNA WANT A FIRER SINCE INSIDE THIS PARKING LOT ON TOP OF UNDERGROUND GAS STORAGE. AND I WILL SAY DESIGNED BUILDINGS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE DESIGNED THE GAS STORAGE SYSTEMS, BUT IT NEVER GETS DOWN TO THAT LOW . THIS ISN'T THE MOVIES . HUH? IT'S NOT THE MOVIES. MOVIES. IT'S NOT THE MOVIES. WELL STILL, BUT, UH, THERE'S THE PSEN. CAN YOU GO TO THE PICTURE YOU USE FOR THE RICOCHET? THE AERIAL. THERE'S A FIRE HY RIGHT HERE. THE FIRE HYDRANT RIGHT THERE. FIRE HYDRANT RIGHT THERE. AND THE BUILDING SITS RIGHT IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FIRE HYD, THERE'S BOUND TO BE SOME OVER HERE. I DIDN'T SEE ANY, I REALLY DIDN'T LOOK OVER THERE. WE COULD, AND I THINK THE MAIN LINES ON THIS SIDE, ISN'T IT, EDDIE? I MEAN, WE COULD RUN A LINE OVER AND HAVE A FIRE HYDRANT RIGHT THERE. AND THE, AND THE FIRE TRUCKS COULD JUST STAY ON THIS WAY AND, AND RUN A HOSE OVER THERE RATHER THAN GETTING, I MEAN, THAT'S WITHIN THE, THE LIMITS OF A FIRE HOSE WITHOUT GETTING INSIDE HERE. AND IF THERE'S A FIRE, I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING OVER HERE, OVER HERE ARE GONNA BE LEAVING ANYWAY. BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW. I MEAN, I MEAN, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WE HAVE, WE'VE ENFORCED THIS WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND PEOPLE HAVE DONE A LOT MORE BUSINESS IN LAKE JACKSON THAN THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE SO FAR. YES, SIR. SO IT, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT OFF THE BAT YOU'RE WANTING US TO BREAK A RULE THAT WE ENFORCE ON BUCKY'S. YES. AND BUCKY'S HAS A LOT ON MONDAY AND I KNOW BEAVER VERY WELL. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AND BUCKY'S WOULD NOT HAVE FOUGHT THAT LOT. NOPE. ? NOPE. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, IT, IT, WE UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE NOT MUCH OF RULE BREAKERS. NOR DO WE LIKE TO REDEFINE OUR ZONING AND OR REQUIREMENTS OFF OF A ONE-OFF. YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SITE? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? SO I THINK THE CONCERN JUST GOES BACK TO PARKING. UM, I SUPPOSE IF WE DID GET RID OF THESE THREE SPACES RIGHT HERE, UM, WE'LL HAVE EVEN, EVEN LESS SPACES. BUT IN MY OPINION, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF SPACES EVEN WITH, I ASSUME NO ONE WAS EVEN GONNA PARALLEL PARK AT THE STORE. WE'RE AT MAXIMUM ON A BUSIEST DAY. I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAYBE SEVEN CARS HERE, FOUR CARS HERE. UM, AND PEOPLE JUST STREAM IN AND OUT. THERE'S, IT IS, IT'S NEVER A CASE WHERE ALL THESE CARS ARE GONNA BE FULL. THIS, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE EMPTY. THIS, THIS, OUR STORE'S NOT THAT BUSY. BUCKY'S, OF COURSE, THAT'S A DESTINATION STORY. I'M A TOTALLY DIFFERENT [00:10:01] GUY. I'M A NORMAL GAS STATION. I'M THAT VALERO. WE, WE INSTALL IT ON EVERYBODY. NOT JUST BUCKY'S. NO. THE FIRE, EVEN THOUGH THE PARKING REVOLUTION ON ANYBODY ON A NEW BUILDING YES. PRE-EXISTING. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEAL. YES. BUT WE 10 PARKING SPACES, YOU SAW, YOU SAW THE CURRENT STORES THAT I CURRENTLY OWN 10 SPACES. I DON'T NEED 40 SPACES HERE. THAT LITTLE 30 OF THEM WILL BE EMPTY AT ALL TIMES. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. SINCE WE RECHANGED THESE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BACK WHEN WE DID IT AFTER THE LAST TIME, CAUSE WE WERE PRETTY HARD ON YOU. AND YOU, YOU'RE WORK, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK YES, SIR. AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY YES, SIR. TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. MM-HMM. I AM NOT AWARE OF OTHER THAN A BUCKY'S THERE BEING ANY OTHER GAS STATION THAT'S COME UNDER THE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE WHEN I GO AND LOOK AT THE EXISTING NON BUCKYS AROUND VALERO D BEE, EXXON, OYSTER CREEK, AND DIXIE, THEY DON'T HAVE PRE PREEXISTING. I I I I GET IT. I DON'T SEE THAT. THEIR PREEXISTING PARKING REQUIRED PARKING LOTS AND PUMPS ARE FULL TO WHERE THERE IS INADEQUATE PARKING. WE CREATED THESE, THOSE THAT'S BEEN ON THIS LONG TIME CREATED, THESE WERE PERMITS. CAUSE WE NOTICED A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES WE WERE BEING INVOLVED, YOU COULDN'T GET TO, UH, PANERA BREAD IS WHAT STARTED THIS. I MEAN, YOU RE YOU REFERENCED VALERO AND BUD BISBEE, THOSE PLACES BEEN HERE IN HOURS. THEY'RE INSANE. INSANE. I THINK THE VAL AND TRAFFIC COMMISSION HAS REPORTS OFF OF THOSE GUYS. BENDERS ON A MONTHLY, MONTHLY BASIS ALONE. I DID A GOOGLE IMAGE ON, UM, THE VALERO. I KNOW WHICH VALE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. MM-HMM. , UM, 0.1 MILES AWAY. I THINK IT HAS ZERO SPACES. I THINK THAT JUST HAS PUMP SPACES AND ONE HANDICAPPED SPACE. THAT'S, THIS IS WAY MORE THAN THAT. THIS IS ACTUAL PARKING SPACES. AND THIS IS A LOT OF SPACES. IF MY STORE, IF MY STORE EVER TAKES UP EVEN THESE MUD SPACES, I'LL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. MY DAD SAYS TO BUY THE BANK RIGHT UNDER ME. , DEFINITELY. WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE THAT FULL. I MEAN, MY POINT IS, I TRY TO LOOK, I THINK WE ALWAYS TRY TO LOOK TO ENFORCE THE RULES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AND HOLD EVERYBODY TO THOSE. AND TO THE EXTENT WE EVER CONSIDER GOING AGAINST THOSE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THERE, NUMBER ONE, A GOOD REASON. AND NUMBER TWO IS IT FOR A GOOD PURPOSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOT WOULD BE FOR ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE SOME PARKING PROBLEMS. UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, ACROSS THE WAY, PARKING PROBLEMS, MCALLISTERS PARKING PROBLEMS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE RESTAURANTS MM-HMM. , YOU CAN'T USE 'EM. THEY JUST GET THE BENEFIT CUZ THEY'RE STUCK ON A PAD IN THE MIDDLE OF A LOT. BUT NOBODY GOES AND PARKS OVER TO USE THOSE. SO IT SEEMS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, IT'S SOMETHING TO AT LEAST CONSIDER WITHOUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY NO, BUT HELL NO BECAUSE IT COULD BRING, UH, I I DO THINK THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO USE AS SOMEBODY HOUSTON TO LIVE IN HOUSTON WHERE THERE'S NO ZONING IS HOUSTON DESCRIPTIONS. BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN WHERE THE BUSINESSES YOU HAVE WAR. YES. I, I, I'M JUST, CUZ I DROVE AROUND. I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE IS, THERE'S ONLY ONE, UH, MR. GILBERT ONE THAT IS, UH, THAT I CAN THINK CAME UNDER THE NEW REGULATIONS. AND I NOW YOU PUT, UH, MY, A CONCERN IN MY, IN MY MIND BECAUSE I I DIDN'T CHECK THE PLA THE SIDELINE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE. AND THAT IS THE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT CORNER WITHOUT EXPRESS, UH, AT, UH, FLAG DRIVE AND THE, UH, OKAY. OH YEAH. YEAH. I'LL NEVER GO FROM THERE. SO YEAH, I NEED TO, I NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ONE. BUT I THINK THAT ONE CAME IN THERE AFTER THE, AFTER THE RULE. I, AFTER THE ORDINANCE HAD ALREADY BEEN REVISED, UH, THERE IS ONE UNDERWAY THAT'S GONNA COME BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, A SIMILAR CONDITION THAT'S GONNA BE COMING, UH, TO YOU NEXT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, AT THE SUBDIVISION PLANT TODAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE OLD M MHMR BUILDING. THE OLD, THE FACILITY, THE [00:15:01] OLD RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF 2004 AND 3 32. AND THAT'S ALSO GONNA BE PURPOSE FOR THAT. AND UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE LARGER TRACTOR IS A VERY WEIRD SHAPE TRACTOR. IT'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE TRACK OF A TRACTOR. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THE SAME SITUATION COMING UP AS SPOT. JOHN AND I WERE ON THE COMMITTEE MM-HMM. FOR THE ORDINANCE. AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE. WE CAN TAKE A GENERIC SQUARE FOOTAGE AND KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS YOU NEED. UH, BUT THE OTHER MOTIVATION I HAVE, THE QUESTION IS, UH, WHO PAYS THE PRICE IF HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS? HE DOESN'T, THE CITY DOESN'T. NO, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE CITY ONE BIT. THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE GUIDANCE FOR THESE ORDINANCES, BUT HE PAYS THE PRICE IF HE'S WRONG. AND WHAT'S THE PRICE? HE JUST HAS LESS CUSTOMERS. BUT THAT DIDN'T AFFECT THE CITY. YES. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT. UH, HE'S THE ONE THAT SUFFERS THE MOST. BUT, UH, LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING IN RELATION TO THAT THING WE HAD, AND MELISSA CAN, CAN BRING THAT CONCERNING THE HOTEL THAT CAME YESTERDAY BEFORE THE COUNCIL REQUEST ADDITIONAL YEAH. ON OCCASION ON THE HOTELS, WE'VE HAD TO TELL THE HOTELS THAT, YOU KNOW, DRUGS CAN'T PARK ON THE ROADWAY AND STUFF. SO IT HAPPENS ON OCCASION THAT THEY'LL TRY TO USE A PUBLIC ROADWAY ON THIS ONE. I REALLY, I I'M NOT HELPING THE CONVERSATION, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION I CAN'T RE RECALL. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL GAS STATIONS THAT DO SEEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LESS PARKING, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA, FALCON EXPRESS. BUT DAVID MAY SAID THEY MAY HAVE A CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER. I DON'T REMEMBER THEM HAVING ONE. UH, DIAMOND SHAMROCK SEEMS TO HAVE LESS PARKING. DID, DOES ANYBODY EVER REMEMBER WHEN WE REVISE THE PARKING ORDINANCE, DID IT INCREASE FOR GAS STATIONS? IT DID HAVEN'T SQUARE FOOTAGE. THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONLY, ONLY BEEN ONE NEW NON BUCKYS BUILT SINCE THAT CHANGED. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT. IS IT A DIFFERENT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF USE OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT TO TEST IT MM-HMM. RIGHT. TO SEE IF IT'S THE RIGHT PERCENTAGE NUMBER THAT WE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE. MAN, THAT'S WHAT I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW. WE DIDN'T COUNT PUMP. I THOUGHT WE COUNTED PUMP. THAT KIND OF THREW ME OFF. THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T GO DOWN TO FLAG LAKE. THAT'S STARTED DRIVING AROUND LOOKING TO SEE THERE'S THE REQUIREMENT ON THE, ON THE PUMP BASE. THERE HAS TO BE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL SPACES ASSOCIATED. STACKING, STACKING LANES IS ANOTHER THING. YEAH. MM-HMM. ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP WITH THIS PARTICULAR MM-HMM. , THIS PARTICULAR, I THINK THE REASON YOU YEAH. I, I HONESTLY, I THOUGHT PUMP, I THOUGHT PUMP PARKING DID COUNT, BUT GROUND. NOW THE ONE THING I NOTICED, YOU'LL, UH, THIS IS, THOSE OUGHT BE SLAMMED THE OTHER DIRECTION. IF YOU COME IN ON THE RIGHT LANE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO A, A FIGURE OF EIGHT TO GET INTO THAT ANGLE. SO THOSE ANGLES OUGHT GO THE OTHER DIRECTION IF YOU, IT OUGHT TO GO COUNTERCLOCKWISE AROUND THE BUILDING. OKAY. I THOUGHT CARS WOULD SWING IT . HUH? IT DEPENDS WHICH WAY YOU GO. YEAH. YOU'RE GONNA DO A FIGURE EIGHT OR YOU GONNA DO A CLOCKWISE. WELL, WHICH THREE PARKING SPOTS DID THE FIRE CO MARSHALL WANT TO BE AT? THE TOP ONE? THE TOP ONE. SO THEN I WOULD SAY THEY'D GO RIGHT AND THEY'D COME AROUND. YOU COME IN ON THE RIGHT SIDE FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION. BUT THAT'S AN EASIER FIX. YEAH. THAT'S AN EASY FIX. NOW, IF YOU WERE IN THE BRITISH COLUMBIA ON BRITISH AISLES, YOU COULD GO, I MEAN, I THINK WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THOSE, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TRAFFIC IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE BACK WOULD FLOOD. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT IS A PLACE FOR EMPLOYEES TO PARK. YEAH. IDEALLY. YEAH. WELL, IS, I DON'T THINK STUCK ON HAVING THREE LANES AS OPPOSED TO TWO COMING IN. THAT'S THOR IN FREEPORT. THEY USE THE BACK. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO AND I, I LIKE THE WIDTH. I'LL PAINT THESE ARROWS ANY ANYWAY YOU WANT ME TO? THAT DOESN'T MATTER. I JUST LIKE THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. SO IT'S EASIER FOR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A A A, A WHITE STRIPE DOWN THE MIDDLE IS ALL I'M TALKING ABOUT. I LOVE IT. YEAH. THE FIRE CHOP TRUCK TAPPY AND GREAT IDEA. YEAH. HE'S DONE. BUT I THINK IF, BUT SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE PARKING YOUR LOT, YOU WON'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE EXITING AT THE SAME TIME. SO THEY WON'T NEED TO A LEFT TURN AND A RIGHT TURN LANE WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING. WELL, THEY CAN GO BOTH DIRECTIONS. THEY CAN GO BOTH WAYS FROM THE TURN LANE. YEAH. JOHN, ANY COMMENT? YEAH, THE ONLY THING THAT OCCURS TO ME IS THAT IF YOU DO AWAY WITH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT THERE, YOU MAY END UP WITH SOME BACKUP INTO YOUR, INTO YOUR PARKING AREA, INTO THE FACILITY IF SOMEONE'S STUCK TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN AND THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T PULL OUT. BUT YEAH. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM THAT WOULD BE. THAT'S, BUT UM, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO LOWER THE PRICE MORE THAN FIVE OTHERWISE. WELL, I THINK THEY, UH, [00:20:02] I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE PARKING THING, BUT I JUST THINK, I JUST STARTED TRYING TO THINK REALISTICALLY FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS IS OUR PARKING OR, OR OUR RULES. YEAH. MM-HMM. , DO THEY WORK? YEAH. YOU'VE DONE WHAT I THINK WE'VE ASKED YOU TO DO. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND SO I LOOKED AT THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THE PRESENTATION I WAS LIKE GOING, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING TO MAYBE RECONSIDER ON OUR PARKING ORDINANCE FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS. I HADN'T DONE THAT YET. BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE, IT, IT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND IT, WE DID AS MUCH AS WE COULD DO PLUS MORE, I THINK. UM, YEAH. AND WE PUT ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACES THAT WE COULD IN HERE. AND I WANTED TO SAY, I THINK THE REASON LAKE JACKSON'S GAS STATIONS ARE SO PACKED, CUZ THEY'RE, THEY'RE FEW. THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY. UM, WHEN I LOOKED, I THINK THE NEWEST ONE WAS OLD, AS OLD AS ME. I'M NOT AWARE OF THE FALCON EXPRESS, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE VALERO, UM, THEY SEEM AROUND THAT AGE GROUP, MAYBE 20 YEARS OLD. UM, THAT PLACE IS LIKE 40. IT RUNS A LOT. SEE? AND, AND THEY, IT RUNS REALLY WELL. THEY WON'T REBUILD IT CAUSE THEY CAN'T MEET THE NEW PARKING STANDARDS. OH. SEE, THEY, OKAY. MAYBE THEY, I THINK THAT'S THE REASON. REBUILT IT. SO MAYBE WHEN I'M THERE, UM, MAYBE THAT'LL GET LESS EASIER GAS WHEN I'M OWN FUMES, BUT I HATE GOING INSIDE IT. YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S A LINE. GOOD COFFEE. THE COFFEE IS GOOD. COFFEE HERE. OKAY. IF HE SLANTS THINGS THE OTHER DIRECTION, WE'RE BACK. THAT'S EASY FOR . YOU GOT IT. I CAN HANDLE IT. . WELL, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY WAY THE DUMPSTER HAS COMING INTO IT. ANYWAY. SO FOR THE FOOTPRINT THAT BUCKY'S CURRENTLY IS USING, UM, THEY, THEY ARE DESTINATION STORES MM-HMM. , HOWEVER, THE ORIGINALS HERE IN LAKE JACKSON. YEAH. AND, UH, THOSE ARE NOT, UH, THEY'RE WHAT I CALL WORKDAY STORES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY BUSY WITH OUR FISHERMEN, OUR, UH, SHIFT WORKERS, MOTHERS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING, UH, THE KIDDOS. AND I, I STILL THINK THAT YOUR INGRESS EGRESS YOUR BACKUP LANES, YOUR PARKING LANES, UM, I ASSUME BY WHAT I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, A, A FRIENDLY SHOPPING STORE FROM YES MA'AM. OR WHEN YOU'RE IN IT. AND SO I, I DO QUESTION IN SOME WAYS THE, THE WAY THAT IT'S SET OUT, BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE IS, IS A WAYS FROM, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR AND BACK DOOR MM-HMM. . AND THE FRONT DOOR IS TOWARD THE PUMPS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THE ONLY DOOR. YES. UM, I IMAGINE THEY'D BE RIGHT THERE OR SOMEWHERE. RIGHT HERE. OKAY. YOU PUT ONE IN THE BACK ALSO. OR, UM, IF THE CITY REQUIRES IT. I KNOW IF IT'S MORE THAN CITY DOESN'T REQUIRE OH, THEN PROBABLY NOT. AND THAT'S EAT UP WALL SPACE IN FRIDGE SPACE. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. I'D TELL YOU THE PLACE IN FREEPORT, THEY MEAN THEY, THAT BACK DOOR GETS USED OFF AS THE FRONT DOOR. IT'S MORE, CAUSE THE PLANT GUY'S COMING IN TO GRAB FOOD INSTEAD. JUST LIKE, IS THAT RIGHT? A LOT OF, I ASSUME NO ONE WOULD'VE BEEN PARKED THERE. YOU'D BE AMAZED. MATT, I'M GOOD. YOU, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR RECOMMENDATION OF OUR FEEDBACK. WELL, SO DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS ONE OR NO? THIS IS NOT ANYTHING. HEY, LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE THIS IS NOTHING. BUT I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, I WOULD BELIEVE. BUT YOU COULD GET, WE COULD WORD IT INTO SOME FORM OF MOTION WITH OUR CAPTURING WHAT WE'RE WANTING OUR CONCEPT THAT SAYS YOU, I GUESS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS WOULD WE ACCEPT THIS MUCH OF, UH, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, FOR THE PARKING SPOTS. THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS. EXACTLY. WE'D BE NICE TO KNOW. WOULD THAT PASS A MAJORITY ON THE BOARD OR NOT COMMISSION? IT WOULD FROM ME. I THINK I WOULD THE FLAG. I'M GOOD WITH IT TOO. OH, THAT SIDE . OH NO, I'M IN FAVOR OF CONVENIENCE STORES. SWEET. AWESOME. KING. LOVE IT. CAN YOU WORD IT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE, CAN YOU PUT IT IN WORDS THAT WE'RE THINKING? WELL, WE'RE I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? NO, I MAY BE AN APPROVAL OF ACCEPTING THAT MUCH DEVIATION FROM THE, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF BEING 21 BASIS FOR THIS. YES. AND ALSO CHANGES TO THE FIRE. FOR THE FIRE AND THE, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS THE FIRE MARSHAL. YEAH. [00:25:01] I I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE AN OPTION, SIR. AND IT'LL COME THROUGH. RIGHT. OKAY. IT WON'T, IT WON'T COME HERE THROUGH THE VIEW BECAUSE NOW, BECAUSE THIS TRACK IS LESS THE TWO ACRE LIMITATION, IT WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR HIS, UH OH. IS THAT RIGHT? YEP. WELL, NOW YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT OUR CONSENSUS IS THEN, SIR, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SEAT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALL GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK. THANK I. THIS PLACE WHERE WE HAVE AN UNDERGROUND, UH, DETENTION. IT WILL BE, I'VE DESIGNED QUITE A FEW, BUT THEY NEVER BUILT. OKAY. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE, JACKSON. THAT'LL BE INTERESTING. BE NICE. WE'VE DONE GOOD LUCK TO YOU. THEY'RE VERY COMMON. THEY ARE COMMON. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . I LIKE THEIR PERSISTENCE. WELL, [7. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAT OF THE SHIVAM SUBDIVISION, A 5.511 ACRE LOT AND PART OF RESIDUAL OF A CALLED 4167.6 ACRE TRACT IN THE S.F. AUSTIN 5 LEAGUE GRANT ABSTRACT 19 LOCATED AT 230 W SH 332, THE INTERSECTION OF SH 332 AND FM 2004] I JUST STARTED NEXT IT ADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE VIEW AND ACTION OF PLANT OF THE SH I THINK IT WAS A RIGHT SUB REGISTERED, A 5.511 ACRE LOT AND PART OF RESIDENTIAL RESIDUAL OF A CALLED 4,000 HUNDRED 67.6 ACRE TRACT IN THE STEPHEN F. AUSTIN FIVE LEAD GRANT SUB ABSTRACT 19 LOCATED AT TWO 30 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 3 32. IT'S INTERSECTION OF STATE HIGHWAY 3 32 AND FARM MARKET THAT, OH, IT'S JUST, HONESTLY, I THOUGHT AT LEAST THE, UH, SURVEYOR THAT AT THIS IS GONNA BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT RUNNING THIS. IT IS NOT, IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE. THIS WILL HELP YOU BE FINALIZED LATER ON. AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS, UH, REFERRING TO AS YOUR NEXT, UH, YOUR NEXT C STORE TYPE OF, UH, REVIEW. UH, THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE SHELL STATION. THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT OWN THE SHELL STATION ARE ALSO THE OWNERS OF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK. THEY BOUGHT IT. THEY BOUGHT IT. TODAY IS A MATTER FACT. THEY OWN ALSO THE PROPERTY ACROSS, WHICH IS THE ALTERN ONE AC YEAH. THE ONE THAT CAN CHECK IT UP THE CORNER. CORRECT. YEAH. BOUGHT EVERYTHING. SO BUCKY'S GONNA MOVE IN , LIKE THEY'RE, THAT LOT WAS THE BONE OF CONTENTION FOR YEARS. UH, AND UH, THEIR INTENTION, AND IT HASN'T BEEN FORMALIZED OVER, THEY, THEY HAVE MADE AN OPEN PUBLIC, UH, STATEMENT OF THAT. BUT THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WHAT TOLD ME THAT THEIR INTENT WAS TO PUT IN A, A CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS STATION CONDITION. THERE. THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE, UH, ACCESSORY BUILDING OR ACCESSORY BUSINESS. UH, BUT THEY HAS, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DISCLOSED THAT AT ALL COMPLETELY. UH, WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS, HOW, I MEAN, WHETHER THEY'RE, THEIR INTENTION IS TO COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER OR TO REPURPOSE IT. THAT, UH, THE TRACK WHERE THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE LARGEST LARGER COMMERCIAL, I WOULD NOT KNOW YET, UH, WHERE THAT IS THE INTENT. UH, SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE, THIS IS JUST FOR THE, UH, PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION. THIS BUILDING IS NOT, IS NO LONGER IT'S GONE. YEAH. IS GONE THERE. MM-HMM. . SO WHAT ZONING IS THAT? THAT IS A C UH, YOU GOT ME THERE. I THINK IT'S C1. THAT'D BEEN MY GUESS. C1, UH, AS YOU CAN, WELL SEE, IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO YOUR PROPERTY. UH, OKAY. IT'S NOT MY PROPERTY ANYMORE. OH, IT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY ANYMORE. YEAH. OKAY. UH, BUT I'VE WALKED THAT LAND . YES. UH, SO THIS WILL BE COMING LATER ON WITH A SIDELINE. AND THE LAST, AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLANT LANDSCAPE HAVE ENOUGH TREES IN THE, BUT THAT IS, I DIGRESS. THAT IS NOT THE ITEM THAT'S HERE BEFORE YOU, WHICH IS JUST A REGULAR PLANT. THE, UH, I THIS INVOLVED IN THIS ONE. I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND OR ANYTHING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE PLOT ITSELF YET, BUT STILL, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED BY YOU FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, REVIEWS IF YOU SO WISH. IT GOES TO THE FENCE LINE, WHICH IS THE CITY LIMITS. [00:30:01] IT GOES TO THE, UH, LEVEE LINE, WHICH IS V D D PROPERTY LIMIT IS PASS. I THINK IT GOES TO THE FENCE LINE. PROBABLY ISN'T THAT. WELL, UH, WHETHER THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FENCE LINE IS. THE FENCE LINE IS NOT ON THE LEVY. OKAY. BECAUSE I, IF THE FENCE LINE, I PUT SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT WERE ILLEGAL. I DON'T THINK THIS ONE SHOWS WHETHER IT'S A FENCE LINE OR NOT. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T FIND OUT FOR 20 YEARS. WHY RE I'M SORRY. Y'ALLS OUTSIDE, SIR. WHY ARE THEY RE THEY HAVE TO, THEY WILL THEY LOSE ANYTHING WHEN THE HIGHWAYS? WILL THEY LOSE ANYTHING? UH, THERE IS A PIECE THERE THAT'S SHOWN. WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PLANT THERE. YEAH. THIS TRACK ORIGINALLY WAS SPOKEN FOR, THIS LITTLE SLIVER WAS SPOKEN FOR. AND THE FIRST, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY STAND AT THIS MOMENT, WHETHER THEY HAVE CHANGED THAT OR NOT, OR, AND WHETHER THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THIS PARTICULAR, THIS PARTICULAR SLIVER IN THIS LIVER. WE ALSO HAVE A WATER LINE MM-HMM. THAT WE, UH, THAT WE, UH, OBTAINED FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. UH, WHAT WAS A REAL ESTATE? UH, REAL ESTATE OFFICE. UH, SO WE HAVE A WATER LINE ACTUALLY IN THAT. AND THAT'S LABEL OF GROUND THERE. THEY'RE DEDICATING THAT AS AN EASEMENT. REPLA DOESN'T AFFECT B DD ACCESS OR ANYTHING? NO, IT DOES NOT. IT WILL GO TO, IT WILL GO TO BDD FOR THEIR APPROVAL. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A SECOND CHANCE. THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT. THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT. JOHN. WHICH JOHN? I'M OKAY WITH IT. I HAVE A PROBLEM. IT MATTHEW, YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD. PARTY ON WAYNE. SOMEONE ELSE I DIDN'T TALK TO CALL THAT SIDE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ONE. SURE. I'M GOING TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE PLAID OF THE SHIVON SUBDIVISION. A 5.511 ACRE LOT AND PART OF THE RESIDUAL OF A CALLED 4167.6 ACRE TRACK IN THE STEPHEN O. AUSTIN FIVE LEAGUE GRANT. ABSTRACT 19. LOCATED AT TWO 30 WEST HIGHWAY, WEST STATE HIGHWAY 3 32. THE INTERSECTION OF STATE HIGHWAY 3 32 AND FM 2004. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOS. ALRIGHT. WHO WAS A SURVEYOR DOOR? I MEAN, WHO WAS THE SURVEYOR RECORD? UH, I THINK IT WAS CHUCK CHARLES D BECAUSE CHUCK DID IT. OH, I SEE SOMETHING OUT. PROFESSIONAL. HEY, PROFESSIONAL SLAPPING OIL AND WEST FEBRUARY, MAN. SAID, TAKE HIM TO SHOW UP . HE MUST BE STAYING IN THE CITY LIMITS TONIGHT INSTEAD OF DRIVING THE COLLEGE STATION. YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS THE LAST THING WE HEAR. I'M ADAM. TWO HOUR DRIVE. YOU'RE GONNA MISS THE SPEECH. NEXT [8. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAT OF THE NORTHWOOD SUBDIVISION, SECTION 4, FILED ON FEBRUARY 7, 2023] ITEM. FINAL REVIEW IN ACTION. PLA NORTHWOOD SUBDIVISION SECTION FOUR FINAL. IT'S ON NOW FEBRUARY 7TH. IT'S NOT ON YET. SORRY. JUST SAY U OF H. HEY, SO WHAT WE GONNA DO? DIVORCE CROWN. SIR, WHAT WE GOT ON THIS ONE IS THE NEXT ONE. THIS'S PARTY. I'M HUNGRY. THIS IS, THIS IS NORTHWOOD? YES. MM-HMM. . THIS IS NORTHWOOD. IS YOUR OTHER, YOUR OTHER PERSON OF INTEREST? THE POINTER'S GONE HERE. OH, DON'T GO . WELL, OKAY. THIS IS NORTHWOOD SUBDIVISION. UH, IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S READY TO BE APPROVED. IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY. THE, THEY ARE HAVING TO BUILD A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL FURTHER NORTH UP HERE THAT WE ARE RECORDING AN EASEMENT FOR IT AND SAY THAT'S A VERY SIGN SET. KIND OF HARD TO READ THESE NUMBERS. THEY'RE BLURRED. WELL, I KNOW I'M NOT, I'M NOT THE SURVEYOR THOUGH. HUH? I'M JUST AN ENGINEER. OH, . SO, YOU KNOW, THE HIKING AND BIKE EXTENDS FROM HERE AND GOES UP TO THE POWER LINE [00:35:01] EASEMENTS UP THERE. IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET. WE PREPARED AN EASEMENT FOR IT. AND IT'S SOON TO BE RECORDED. THAT'S MY EARTH. THAT'S MY WIFE . YOU. I WANNA TALK TO HER ON SPEAKER. YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT . SORRY ABOUT THAT. ANYWAY. ANYWAY. WE'LL, ONCE WE GET A RECORD AND GET THE RECORDATION INFORMATION, WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE PLAT ALSO UP HERE. WE'RE HAVING TO FILL ALL OF THIS LOT AS Y'ALL. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NEW FLOODPLAIN MAPS, WE HAVE TO RAISE THIS SITE A FOOT TO FOOT AND A HALF, MAYBE MORE IN SOME AREAS. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A FILL MITIGATION POND UP HERE BY A DITCH UP THERE. AND SO THAT REC COORDINATION INFORMATION WILL BE ON THE PLATEAU. SO IT'S NOT THERE YET, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE'RE WAITING FOR. AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS FOR AN APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE'S WAIT UNTIL THESE FINAL LITTLE BITS OF INFORMATION ARE ADDED TO THE PLAQUE, THEY CLOSE OUT. THAT'S CORRECT. UH, THEY CAME HERE AND WITH THIS PROJECT SOMETIME AGO, A LONG TIME AGO. UH, AND, UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, DOCUMENT AND CAME BACK WITH SOME COMMENTS THAT THEY, THAT WERE SENT BACK. AND THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT ONE. SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS HE MADE SOME, WE JUST, UH, DESCRIBED THOSE THAT WEREN'T THERE AT THE TIME. THAT WAS THE, UH, THE EASEMENT FOR THE AC FOR THE, UH, HABA TRAIL, UH, TRAIL THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE PUT IN, REQUIRED, UH, TO THE, UH, EXISTING PARK, THE PARKLAND, WHICH IS OFF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, PROBABLY ABOUT HOW LONG, HOW IT'S A THOUSAND FEET MORE, LESS A THOUSAND FEET OR SO. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, THE BOARD, BOARD, UH, ON THAT HAVE TO BE IN THERE. UH, SO THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY, WHAT DOUG IS JUST SAYING, THAT HE IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT TIME, LONGER TIME BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY HANDLING THOSE, UH, THAT DOCUMENT, UH, RAN ACROSS SOME, SOME, UH, ISSUES AND WASN'T ABLE TO PRODUCE IT TODAY. UH, THE SAME THING GOES ALONG WITH THE LIFT STATION EASTLAND MEETS AND BOUNDS THAT ARE JUST OFF THIS PARTICULAR TRACK THAT ALSO WILL HAVE TO ALSO COME BACK WITH A RECORDATION. AND OF COURSE, WHEN YOU JUST MENTIONED THE MITIGATION, THAT'S OFF OFFSITE ALSO, UH, AMONG THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED BY, UH, BY THE ENGINEER WAS ANOTHER REQUIREMENT THAT THE BOARD, UH, IMPOSED ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION WAS THE, UH, A, UH, WAS OF, ITS A 40 FOOT, WAS IT ON THE 40 FOOT STRIP OF LAND THERE? OH, YES SIR. MM-HMM. THAT ORIGINALLY, UH, RAISE UP HAD WANTED THE CITY TO TAKE OVER FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES. MM-HMM. . AND THE BRIDGE WAS DENIED NOT ONLY BY THE BOARD, BUT DENIED ORIGINALLY BY THE, UH, BY THE COUNCIL DURING THEIR, UH, B DISCUSSIONS. SO NOW IT HAS NOW BEEN INTO THIS PARTICULAR PLANT AS A PROPERTY TO BE, IT'S A RESERVE, THE LANDSCAPE RESERVE TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION HAS SENT AS A DOCUMENT WHEREIN THEY, UH, THEY ACCEPT THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION OR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE TRACK WITH THE CONDITIONS AS, UH, AS CARETAKERS OF THIS PARTICULAR STRIP, UH, OF LAND. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL SPECIFICS OF THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION ARE THAT THERE ARE THE LAST RALEIGH, THE LAST TIME THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS SIZE OF LOSS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. IT'LL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN. NOT THAT TOP OF THE LOT. SOME CASES, SOME LITTLE LOT GO A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE FOOT TWO TO THE REAR. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THAT BACK OFF INTO THAT DETENTION. DETENTION LAKE. MM-HMM. . AND MOST OF THE OTHER ONES ARE, UH, HE SIZE ALSO. THEY'RE EITHER 80 FOOT BY 120 AT THE LEAST, AND FOR THE MOST CASES, EVEN EVEN LARGER THAN THAT. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER SEE THIS TYPE OF LOT AGAIN HERE. LIKE JACKSON. WE WON'T SEE IT IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT WON'T, UH, IT WON'T BE A COST EFFECTIVE FOR DEVELOPERS AS THEY HAVE ALREADY [00:40:01] CLAIMED. HMM. OKAY. SO, SO ON THIS AREA THAT, THAT THE ELSTON PUT UP, THIS IS SECTION FOUR RIGHT HERE. MM-HMM. . AND THAT EASEMENTS RIGHT THERE GOES UP TO THAT POWER LINE. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S A THOUSAND FOOT, THE HIKE AND BIKE EASEMENT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. WHAT, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT? I, I THOUGHT DECADES AGO THEY REQUIRED SO MUCH PARK LAND FOR DEVELOPMENTS ORIGINALLY. THIS, THIS OLD PROJECT, THIS HOLE WAS DEVELOPING WAS MASTER PLAN AND WITH MORE FACES OTHER THAN THE FOUR THAT WENT UP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UH, TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THAT AREA WHERE PARK IS NOW. YEAH. CORRECT. AND, UH, SO THEY DONATED, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DESIGNATED THIS PART. WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT CHANGED THROUGH THE YEARS THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PHASING. ORIGINALLY IT WAS GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF BY A SERIES OF, UH, PARKWAYS ALONG THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION. BUT THAT BECAME AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE THINGS. EVENTUALLY, ULTIMATELY, UH, THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO JUST GIVE ONE FELL SOUP OF, OF PARKLAND FOR THE, FOR THE FULL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHERE THOSE, UH, 15, 14, 15 ACRES CAME TO BE. SO THE CITY ACCEPTED THAT ONE, BUT WAS A CONDITION THAT THERE'D BE SOME CONNECTION TO IT IN THE FUTURE FACES. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'VE NOW REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE THIS EASEMENT FOR ACCESS, UH, FOR HIKE AND BIKE, SO THAT AT LEAST PEOPLE CAN MAKE USE OF THAT. UH, NOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IS SOMETHING STILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU TO, UH, TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AND YOU WILL BE COMING TO YOU DOING THE ACTUAL SUBDIVISION DE UH, REVIEW OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SECTION FOUR WHEN THEY COME IN HERE WITH THE STREETS, WITH A DRAINAGE, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL THE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AT THAT TIME, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER YOU WANT THAT TO BE PUT IN WITH THIS FACE OR WHETHER YOU ARE GONNA LEAVE IT UP TO A FUTURE FACE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK COULD SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE. OR . WELL, UH, COULD BE THE QUALITY POSSIBILITY. IT COULD BE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THAT AREA WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED. THE AREA THAT WAS CLEARED OUT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, IS THAT PART OF THE PARKLAND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT? OR THAT'S NO, THAT WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S SECTION FOUR RIGHT IN HERE. THAT'S SECTION, THAT'S THE SECTION THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. RIGHT. SO THAT OTHER AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARK BEING UP ABOVE THAT RIGHT HERE? YEAH, JUST ALONG THAT STRIP. JUST ALONG THAT STRIP. THERE'S ALSO A TRANSFORMATION TOWER THERE TOO, ALONG THAT STRIP. IT'S ALSO LOW ELEVATION, I THINK. DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE MASTER PLAN? UH, NOTHING COULD BE BUILT THERE ANYWAY. WELL, MORE THAN LIKELY NOTHING CAN BE BUILT THERE. I BUT THERE IS A TRANSMISSION LANDING AND IT'S BEING USED. SO IT'S A DRY, I MEAN, IT, IT DRIES OUT. IT'S NOT JUST A LOW LINE TRANSMISSION LINE. OKAY. A TOWER. YES. TRANSMISSION. I SAW A TOWER OF SOMEPLACE THEY WERE DISGUISING. IS THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT A MICROWAVE TOWER? MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SOMETHING. AN I TOWER OR SOMETHING. MATTHEW SOUNDS LIKE THEY GOT IT ALL PLANNED OUT. THANK KIM. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SORRY. GOOD. WELL THAT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, . AND UH, THE LAST CUL-DE-SAC AT THE VERY END IS MINUS ROSE BAY COURT. AND, UM, I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT THIS WAS COMING AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WONDERFUL AND, UM, IT IS GOING TO HAVE SOME LARGE LOTS ON IT. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THAT EVEN RIVALS SOME THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED NOW. I THINK THAT SUGAR MAPLE IS GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE. JUST, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA ALL SEND IT HERE. JUST, JUST FOR MY CURIOSITY, WHY IS ARROWHEAD NOT A STRAIGHT STREET? IT'S SLIGHTLY DEVIATED. WHICH ONE'S? ARROWHEAD? IS THAT THE ONE, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT? IT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT. IT'S THE, YES. IT'S JUST GOT THE SLIGHTEST OF DEVIATION. AND IS IT ARROW HAD A ONE BEER TOO MANY ON HIS WAY TO WELL, I WONDERED IF, HEY, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN ANY OF THESE SECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT DEVIATION WAS. THE, WAIT A MINUTE. GOOD GUY STANDING HERE. SOMETIMES HE'S A SURVEYOR. SOMETIMES [00:45:01] HE, HE'S AN ENGINEER. IT DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING AESTHETIC TO IT. IT JUST REMINDS, SLOWS THE TRAFFIC DOWN. YEAH. . IT REMINDS ME OF SYCAMORE THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T LINE UP AFTER A FEW DECADES. YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE IN LAKE JACKSON AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE BITTY DEVIATION. YEAH. . THAT WAS THE ONLY ENOUGH WINDING WAY WOULD BE YOUR FIRST CLUE. YEAH, THE FIRST TIME I TOOK A YOUNG LADY TO LAKE THEATER, I COULDN'T FIND MY WAY BACK TO ENGLETON. I COULDN'T GET OUTTA LAKE JACKSON. YET. HERE YOU ARE. I CAN'T. THAT WAS THE ONLY OBSERVATION. . BUT THAT'S, THAT RAISES A GOOD QUESTION. WHY WOULD THEY PUT, WELL, IT IS A WHITE LITTLE S CURVE IN THERE. WELL, I THINK THESE WERE DISCOUNTS STRAIGHT EDGES AT A AND M. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE, AGAIN, THIS WAS LJ MOVE TO THE, TO THE EAST A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S PROBABLY, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE, IT HAPPENS AROUND WHERE THERE'S A RESERVE BE DRAINAGE THING AND THEY'RE MAKING SOME LOTS BIGGER ON THE LAKE. YEAH. WELL, THEY MAY ALSO KNOWN AS THE DRAINAGE DITCH . THEY, THEY THOUGHT THEY'D GET MORE MONEY WITH THESE LOT FRONTAGES OF VERY LITTLE DEEPER. I THINK SO. THEY SHRUNK THE, NO, IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN TWO AND THREE FEET. THAT'S A GOOD, IT SURE LOOKS LIKE A MISTAKE TO ME. . BUT LOU, LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE MAKING SOME OF THE LOTS PAST THAT DRAINAGE RIGHT. OF WAY BIGGER THAT ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE. LAKE FRONT. YEAH. MM-HMM. . YEAH. THEY'RE BREAKING INTO THE 180 S. YEAH. HERE. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK THE SURVEY IS GONNA GET PAID EXTRA FOR THAT . GO AHEAD. NO, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. WELL, ACTUALLY THIS IS, I'M SORRY. IT'S GOOD. YEP. YES IT IS. ALL RIGHT. WE, WE TOOK OVER FOR LJ, WE ADOPTED THIS. OKAY. YOU, OH, SO YOU JUST COPY COPIED THE WORK. GOOD CREDIT. GOOD JOB, HARRY. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAID OF THE NORTHWOOD SUBDIVISION SECTION FOUR FILED ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023. I SECOND TO SUBJECT TO YOUR, UH, SIGNATURE. COME SUBJECT TO DELAYED SIGNATURES. WE MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. I CAN GET OUT JUST IN TIME TO HEAR THE END OF THE AGGIE GAME. AGGIE GAME. TWO HOURS. THEY'LL BE, GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO LISTEN TO THE U OF H GAME. ARE THEY COMING OVER TONIGHT? YEAH, THEY'RE PLAYING, THEY'RE PLAYING TO GRADUATE FROM THERE. SO THEY'RE PLAYING IN CALIFORNIA AND SEWED IT UP. DID YOU REALLY? YEP, I DID. TWICE ALL THE WAY THROUGH . OKAY. THANK Y'ALL. LATER BOSS. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. DRIVE. CAREFUL. SAL, DO WE HAVE [9. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS] ANYTHING TO SIGN? UH, NO. NOT ON THAT TABLE, BUT WE WERE EXPECTING THIS FOR ALL I C [10. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] INTEREST JOHN. JOHN, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING. YES. NOT TONIGHT. TERRY. NO. TERRY? NOPE. REFUGE. DO NO VOTES GET DENOTED IN OUR MINUTES? YES. MM-HMM. NO VOTES. LIKE IF SOMEONE SAYS HEY, NO. YEAH. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ABSTAIN FROM THEIR VOTE? YES. OKAY. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT OFTEN WITH ME. HAVE YOU BEEN NOT ABSTAINING. I SHOULDN'T SAY IS THE WRONG WORD. YOU'RE RIGHT, JEFF. MY BAD IF YOU DON'T ANSWER. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? YES. BECAUSE HE HADN'T, IF I'M NOT, IF I DON'T SAY YES OR NO, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO SAY, I ABSTAIN AB BUT ABSTAINING WOULD TAKE ME DOWN FROM BEING CONSIDERATION, LIKE HAVING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THAT'S THE WRONG YOU, I CAUGHT THAT THIS EVENING. WAS THERE A TIME THAT YOU DIDN'T VOTE? MM-HMM. . YOU NEED TO, THEN YOU NEED TO STATE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE OR NOT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH TO EXPECT. UH, AND ADDED TO CATCH THAT IT'S A BAD, IT'S A BAD ANGLE. I SAW IT, BUT I COULDN'T EXPECT HER TO SAY IT. SO I JUST WANNA KNOW, WANNA KNOW WHAT TO DO FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. YEAH, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO ABSTAIN. SO I WOULD NOTE IT FOR THE RECORD. ROGER THAT. OKAY. WAS THAT ON NUMBER PARKING SPOTS? MM-HMM. , WAS THAT THE NUMBER? PARKING SPOTS? YEAH. ON THE CONVENIENCE STORE VOTE. ANYTHING ELSE? MATT, ANYTHING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? ANYTHING YOU NEED TO BRING UP FROM COUNCIL? I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, BUT, UH, FOR TODAY'S MARKET GAS PERHAPS NOT REQUIRED. MODESTO YEAH. YOU'LL PAPER [00:50:01] TOMORROW. BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, LAST NIGHT CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED A DONATION FROM THE CREDIT UNION. UH, THEY HAVE, UH, DONATED, UM, ACREAGE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, BEHIND HEB, UH, FOR A TO BE NAMED, UH, BUILDING A PAD SITE FOR 20,000 SQUARE FEET IN ADDITION TO PARKLAND. UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER ON DEVELOPING THAT THROUGH EITHER THEM CONSTRUCTING IT OR GIVING IT OVER TO US AND WITH A GRANT TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY SPACE THERE. AND IN RETURN. AND ALSO THE OTHER DONATION IS THE OLD OR THE CURRENT CREDIT UNION SITE, UM, BY THE MALL. AND SO THE CITY WILL TAKE ALL OF THAT. IN RETURN. WE WOULD BUILD A ROAD EXTENDING AZA TO THE BACKSIDE. UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BUILD THAT, UH, WE'VE AGREED WITH OCO, WHICH IS OWNED BY, WHICH OWNS, UH, THE RIGHTS TO BUILD, UH, HOME TWO SUITES. THEY WOULD BUILD THEIR, SO WE WOULD REIMBURSE 75% OF THAT ROAD. UH, ONCORE WOULD BUILD THE OTHER 25%. AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE, WE WILL, UM, RETAIN THE RIGHT TO ASSESS THE LAST VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEIR 25% IF THEY WANT ACCESS ONTO AZELIA. AND SO, SO THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY RECOUP 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD. BUT THE BIG THING FOR US IS, UH, A FUTURE, UH, FUTURE PARK, UH, THERE BEHIND HEB, UH, PROPOSED SITE FOR THE CITY TO USE IN THE FUTURE IF IT NEEDED. AND THEN FOR US, REALLY, THE, THE BIG SITE FOR US IS THE, UH, THE OLD CREDIT, UH, UH, UNION SITE, UM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES. UH, A LITTLE OVER EIGHT ACRES, WHICH IS REALLY THE SAME SIZE AS WHAT OUR COMPLEX IS TODAY THAT WE, THAT WE SIT ON FOR THE CIVIC CENTER AND, UH, PD CITY HALL AND LIBRARY. THEY'RE RELOCATING TO THAT POSITION IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WE ARE TAKING A STRONG LOOK AT IT FOR, UH, RELOCATING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE. UH, BUT RIGHT NOW IT JUST GIVES US ELBOW ROOM FOR EXPANSION IN THE FUTURE. SO IT MAY NOT HAPPEN IN MY CAREER, UH, BUT IT, I'LL ALSO BE COMPLAINING UP HERE, DON'T WORRY. RIGHT. BUT IT GIVES US A COUPLE OF SPACES THAT IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE HAVE SOME ELBOW ROOM. WE GOT LUCKY THAT MR. MCCLAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, HISTORY TOLD THAT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME THOUGHT WE WERE BUYING TOO MUCH PROPERTY WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS SITE, . AND NOW IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH. ANYTHING NEW GOING ON, ERNESTO? NO. UH, DAVID, UH, DAVID GAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT LAST NIGHT TO, UM, COUNT, UH, COUNSEL. THERE'S REALLY NOT ANYTHING NEW THAT YOU ALREADY ARE NOT AWARE OF. CAVENDERS IS TOLD, YOU KNOW, UH, STAFF THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO OPEN UP IN THE SPRING. UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE LATE SPRING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PLANS THEY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT, UH, THE CHICK-FIL-A. ARE THEY ADDING A THIRD LANE OR I HELLO DAVID? IT . I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IN A MINUTE. UH, MR. SERGEANT? NO. UM, CHICK-FIL-A IS, IS GONNA REVAMP THEIR DINING ROOM AND REMOVE THEIR PLAY JUST IN THE DINING. YEAH, IT'S ALL INTERNAL. UH, THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH MASTERED, UM, THE, THE DRIVE-THROUGH RIGHT. IN LAKE JACKSON. BUT, UH, UM, THERE IS NOT A NEED IN TODAY'S MARKET FOR, UH, INTERIOR PLAYGROUND SPACE. AND I THINK IN A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS WITH THOSE TYPES OF SPACES ANYWAYS. MM-HMM. , BUT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVAMPING THE INTERIOR TO ELIMINATE THAT. YEAH. BUT THAT SHOULDN'T DISRUPT THEIR BUSINESS. THEY, THEY SHOULD REMAIN OPERATIONAL MM-HMM. DURING THE DURATION OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. WELL, THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT THAT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S NIGHTTIME CONSTRUCTION SUNDAY FINISH UP. YEAH. AND, AND YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE, UM, THE, UH, PILOT J'S AND THE 7-ELEVEN MOVING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BUCKY'S, I'M JUST KIDDING. , THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. , YOU KNOW, THAT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOWER STORE COMING. , , I KEEP, I KEEP A GOOD EYE ON MY COMPETITION. NOBODY'S COMING TO LAKE JACKSON. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. MR. GILBERT, YOU SAID YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING OR MR. FAY? WELL, I, GOD, UH, IT GOT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION JUST, UM, KELSEY SEABOLD IS TRYING TO EXPAND WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING IN TERMS OF PHYSICIANS. AND SO, UH, MY DOCTOR ASKED ME, HE GOES, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY AT THE CITY HALL? AND I SAID, WELL, YEAH. AND UH, HE SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY'D ACTUALLY STARTED LOOKING, CUZ THEY STARTED TELLING ME, POINTING OUT PLACES THEY MIGHT BUILD ONE OF THEIR MORE TYPICAL CLINICS THAT WE SEE WHEN WE GO TO SUBURBAN AREAS. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY'D ACTUALLY APPROACHED THE CITY YET OR WHERE THEY MIGHT BE ON THAT. DOES THAT [00:55:01] MEAN THAT THEY'VE KIND OF OUTGROWN DOCTOR'S PARK OR IT MEANS THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TALKING TO HIM, AND THIS DOCTOR DIDN'T KNOW HE'S THE DOCTOR, HE'S NOT THE BUSINESS PERSON, BUT THAT THEY LIKE TO HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE MULTI-DISCIPLINES COME IN AND OUT. OKAY. AND SOMEONE CALL ME CONCERNING HALFWAY IN A CLINIC FACILITY, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE LU'S, UH, BUILDING AREA. OKAY. THE TRACTOR NOW, UH, DAVID, THIS, THIS AFTERNOON SHOWED ME A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWED TWO RESTAURANTS. YEAH. IT, IT DID SHOW THE LUBY'S BUILDING GONE WITH, WITH TWO RESTAURANTS ON A SINGLE PAD OUT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, BUT ABOUT 4,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. SO I, I THINK THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY INTEREST IN THAT, THAT PROPERTY. WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN. UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY UH, HEALTH INSPECTOR INFORMED ME TODAY THAT LU'S IS LOOKING LIKE THEY MAY BE OPEN ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX MONTHS . SO THINGS ARE CHANGING, UH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ULTIMATELY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. OKAY. AND NO, WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED BUILDING PLANS FOR CAVENDERS. HOW ABOUT THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE OVER THERE BEHIND? YES, THERE ARE SOME BEING BUILT THERE. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN GOOD OBSERVATION. THEY HAVE BEEN BEING, BEING BUILT FOR, WHAT, THREE YEARS NOW? SO, UH, THAT IS A LONG STANDING, UM, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I HAVE MY OWN THEORIES ABOUT IT. UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF, OF PULLING THINGS OUTTA MID-AIR BECAUSE DAVID BELIEVES THIS OR DAVID BELIEVES THAT. UNDERSTAND. UM, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE, UM, THE PROJECT MANAGER ABOUT THE BUILDINGS, ABOUT INSPECTIONS, ABOUT PACE OF WORK, ABOUT CONDITIONS OF THE MATERIALS ON SITE. UM, AND WE'LL, THOSE TWO BY FOURS LOOK PRETTY, PRETTY QUESTIONABLE AT THIS POINT. UM, A TWO BY FOUR CAN BE WEATHERED FOR A YEAR UP TO TWO BEFORE IT STARTS REALLY LOSING. ITS, ITS INTEGRITY. BUT SOME OF THE PROPRIETARY MATERIALS ON SITE MAY, MAY NEED SOME EVALUATIONS. UM, THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE WORKING WITH A, A LOCAL INSPECTION FIRM TO DO INSPECTIONS OUT THERE. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE, HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR, UH, GRADING OF MATERIALS PARTY ON. I THINK THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING IN MY MIND IS CLOSING DOWN THE MATERNITY WARD AS FAR AS EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY. THE, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. NO, SIR. WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THEY CAN'T GET ANY, UH, DOCTORS TO MOVE DOWN HERE FOR THAT. THEY DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG ENOUGH POPULATION OR SOMETHING. MY, MY LAST, UH, TWO CHILDREN WERE HOME BIRTHS WITH THE MIDWIFE. SO I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, MATERNITY WARS. THIS IS MY SHOCK FACE , BUT NEITHER ONE OF 'EM WENT TO WENT BY PLAN. SO I'M JUST SAYING WENT BY PLAN. YEAH. OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. DINNER TIME. WE WON'T BUG YOU ABOUT DOWNTOWN. I'M HUNGRY. THANK YOU, DAVID. AND I GUESS THERE'S A U OF H GAME ON THAT ALL, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM WHAT THEY SAY, WE ARE NUMBER TWO IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S ALL IT MATTERS IS SABRINA, ANYTHING GO FOR ANYTHING, EDDIE, READY FOR YOUR REPORT? GOOD. UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTIONS. NOPE. IT LOOKS GOOD DOWN THERE. EDDIE DOES [11. SET NEXT MEETING DATE – Tuesday, March 7, 2023] ANNA. WHEN'S OUR NEXT ONE? TUESDAY, MARCH 7TH. TUESDAY MARCH 7TH. SECOND. EVERYBODY CHECK YOUR CALENDARS. UHOH. MARCH 7TH. YEAH, MARCH RIGHT HERE. I'VE GOT A PLANNING CONDITION. I GOT, I FLY OUT THE NEXT DAY TO NEW JERSEY. YEAH. COME PURPOSE. DARN. I FLY OUT THE NEXT DAY TO PALM SPRINGS. YOU, I'M GOING, I'M GOING, I'M GOING TO JERSEY FOR MY GREAT AUNT'S 90TH PARTY AND THEY'RE ALL ITALIANS. SO I WILL COME BACK 40 POUNDS HEAVIER. THAT'LL BE A BLAST. BIG BLAST. FAT SMILE ON MY FACE. THAT'LL BE A BLAST. AW, MAN. HAVE FUN. I LOVE THOSE. THOSE GET TOGETHERS. JUNE WAS ITALIAN. IT'S BEED ELLIS. ELLIS ISLAND DROPPED THREE LETTERS OUTTA MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER'S NAME, SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S ONLY 10 BAES IN THE WORLD. BUT IF YOU LOOK UP BAUN, THERE'S BOATLOADS OF THEM. YEAH, NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEP, YEP, YEP. ALRIGHT, WE RETURN. THANK Y'ALL. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.