Feb 21, 2023 City Council

PERFECT TIMING.

ALL

[Call to Order]

WE'RE GONNA CALL A MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS, UH, LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST, 2022, UH, REGULAR SESSION, BEGINNING AT 6:30 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.

WE'LL BEGIN THE, UH, MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN SANJAYA PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER INVISIBLE JUSTICE, HONOR, TEXAS FLAG FLAG PLEDGE, TEXAS STATE, INDIVISIBLE.

AND THE INVOCATION TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.

LET US PRAY.

DEMO 70.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, A DAY THAT WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN, THE MUST.

HEAVENLY FATHER, BLESS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EMS AS THEY PROTECT US ON A DAILY BASIS.

BLESS EACH ONE OF US AS WE PREPARE TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS FOR THIS GREAT CITY.

JUST BLESS US, KEEP US AND WATCH OVER US.

AND AS WE GET READY TO JOIN THIS MEETING, JUST GIVE US ALL TRAVELING, GRACE, THAT WE MIGHT RETURN HOME SAFELY.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, WELCOME.

UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING AND JOINING US, UH, VIA ZOOM IS COUNCILMAN BLANCHARD.

HE'S AT, UH, TRAINING WITH DEALING WITH FIRE, WITH HIS ROLE WITH, OF FIREMEN, UH, IN THE INDUSTRY.

NEXT TIME WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS, WANTS TO ADDRESS COUNSEL? UH, MAKE A COMMENT, UH, ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPDATES TO THE CITY'S CREDIT CARD POLICY.

MOVE ON TO DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM, EITHER ON THE CONSENT AGI AGENDA OR ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

IS THERE A DECLARATION TO BE MADE? ALL RIGHT.

NOT HEARING

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ANY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

A LONG LIST.

SO BEAR WITH ME.

WE HAVE ITEM ONE IS, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023, EXCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION.

MINUTES FOR PLANNERS.

UH, THE H O T COMMITTEE AND LJ D C UM, ITEM THREE IS, UH, SUBMISSION AND APPROVAL OF RACIAL PROFILE REPORT FROM THE LAKE JACKSON POLICE DEPARTMENT AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

ITEM FOUR, AWARD BID NUMBER 2 2 0 2 6 2 TO JB GROUP AND SERVICES, LLC FOR THE CITY HALL RESTROOM RENOVATIONS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $131,250.

ASS BUDGETED RESOLUTION.

FIVE, I MEAN, NUMBER FIVE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 912, AMENDING THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2223 BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FIRE AND EMS, UH, ROOF, OVERLAYING THE MOUNTAIN NOT TO EXCEED $80,000.

ITEM SIX, APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF NEW AMBULANCE, UH, CAB CHASSIS, UH, WITH PATIENT COMPARTMENT, UH, UH, REMOUNT FROM, UH, CLASSIC CHEVROLET FLEET AND COMMERCIAL THROUGH THE H E A C N.

THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $188,000 AS BUDGETED.

APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A NEW AMBULANCE FROM CLASSIC CHEVROLET FLEET AND COMMERCIAL THROUGH H G A C IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $252,000 AS BUDGETED AND APPOINT NIKISHA PATEL, ANDY LARSON, AND JASON GLASS TO THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A REQUEST FROM ANY FROM COUNCIL TO REMOVE ANY ITEM? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT AS WRITTEN.

MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH, SECOND.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BAKER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[1. Discuss and consider updates to the city’s credit card policy – James Bryson]

JAMES,

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GOOD EVENING, MARION COUNCIL.

HOW ALL THIS EVENING? GREAT.

UH, WITHIN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL POLICY FOR THE PROCUREMENT CARDS, AND THEN A, UM, REVISED ADDITION.

THE CITY ADOPTED THAT POLICY IN MAY OF 2001.

THEY IMPLEMENTED THE CARD PROGRAM IN SEPTEMBER OF 2001.

SO WE'VE HAD ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORKING WITH IT.

SO BASED OFF OF THAT YEAR AND A HALF, UM, UH, AMY AND MYSELF AND, UH, MEGAN WENT THROUGH THE POLICY AND MADE SOME CHANGES.

REALLY JUST KIND OF, UM, I GUESS FOR THE, TO THE SAKE OF CLARIFICATION, UH, I GUESS WE WOULD SAY, UM, AND SO I CAN GO THROUGH IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU'VE SEEN, IT'S REALLY JUST, UM, CHANGING SOME OF THE WORDING IS WITH REGARDS TO, UM, AGREEMENTS TO ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I BELIEVE, TWO CREDIT, TWO P CARDS.

AMY HAS ONE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT WAS MEGAN'S.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST, I BELIEVE, GONNA BE USED BY, UM, ADMIN FOR TRAVEL.

WE'LL SIGN IT TO, UH, VICKY, VICKY TO HANDLE TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE P CARDS, YOU KNOW, SOME CITIES WILL HAVE IT MORE EXTENDED MM-HMM.

, BUT WE'VE KEPT IT TO JUST TWO IN THE ORGANIZATION.

SO WE TRY TO USE THEM AS INFREQUENT AS POSSIBLE AND STILL, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE, MOSTLY JUST TRAVEL FOR HOTELS AND HOTELS AND, UM, AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WHERE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, ONLY ACCEPTS A CREDIT CARD.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN THE ONE CATCH WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, WE HAD KIND OF ADOPTED A POLICY JUST AS A, A BOILER PLATE, RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE OCCASIONS WHERE, OH, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, LIKE, WE HAVE FUEL.

WE ALREADY HAVE A FUEL CARD, SO WE ALREADY HAVE A FUEL CARD.

AND SO IT WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, WE NEED TO BE USING THE FUEL CARD.

AND NOT THIS CARD.

BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS.

AND SO WE'VE SEEN SOME CONFLICTS, UH, AND WE WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP.

AND, AND THEN THE PEAK CARD POLICY REFERS TO THE TRAVEL POLICY.

THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THE PET TRAVEL POLICY AS WELL.

AND SO ON THE NEXT ITEM, WE'LL GET INTO THAT AS TO WHY WE MADE THOSE CHANGES AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNSEL? ARE YOU PLANNING ON EXPANDING THE USE OF THEM OR JUST DOES TWO WORK FOR NOW AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP IT? UH, I THINK I'M GONNA KEEP IT AT TWO.

SURE.

UM, UNTIL WE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, MORE, A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I'M COMFORTABLE WITH JUST KEEPING IT CLOSE TO THE BEST BABY STEPS.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, WE REMOVED THE BUYER FROM THE CARD CARDHOLDER CLASS.

UH, I WOULD THINK THE BUYER SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN FIND A SMALL ITEM THAT YOU NEED, AND IT'S MUCH MORE COST PROHIBITIVE TO BUY IT THROUGH A, UH, BUYING PROGRAM RATHER THAN WITH A CREDIT CARD.

LET'S SEE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT? AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS AMY'S DECISION TO WHICH PAGE THAT WAS ON? IT'S ON, UH, CORE PAGE FOUR.

PAGE FOUR.

CARDHOLDER CLASS DIRECTORS, ASSISTANT DIRECTORS.

OH.

UM, WELL, SEEING, LET'S SEE.

SUPERVISOR MANAGEMENT AND OTHER EMPLOYEES.

UM, JAMES WAS YOUR REASONING TO KEEP HER AT WELL, SHE'S KIND OF, UM, HER LIMIT OF KIND OF INTERNAL CONTROLS, CHECKS AND BALANCE, BECAUSE SHE'S ALSO, SHE'S ALSO KIND OF MANAGING THE PROGRAM AND SHE'S BUYING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS THINKING WHEN SHE MADE THAT SUGGESTION, BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT IN THERE FOR ANY REASON, WE CAN JUST MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT.

I SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE BUYERS HAVE, UH, A LOT MORE LATITUDE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER EMPLOYEES LISTED ON EITHER.

AND NOT TO INCLUDE HER ON THAT CARD.

IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION THEN.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M NOT CHALLENGING THAT.

I'M JUST DON'T KNOW.

CURIOUS.

AND SHE'D BE ABLE TO USE IT UNDER ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES, JUST LIKE HALF, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

IT'S MAYBE JUST THE 5,000 LEVEL.

AND SO SHE'S, YEAH, RIGHT NOW, 2,500.

RIGHT NOW, TAKING HER OFF LIMITS HER TO 2,500.

$2,500.

BUT SHE CAN STILL USE IT IF SHE NEEDED THEM.

OR GET HER DIRECTOR TO, UH, SIGN OFF ON IT.

BECAUSE THE CARD, ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO CARDS.

SO ONE'S ASSIGNED HER, HER NAME, WHAT IT DOES, IT KEEPS HER AT THE 2,500, UH, LIMIT.

GET A DIRECTOR INITIAL, IS THAT YEAH.

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BUT WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS STILL AT $3,000 OF A PURCHASE, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT FOR THE BIDS.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET QUOTE QUOTES OR LOOK AND SEE IF THERE ARE, UM, HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES.

SO REALLY, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THAT CREDIT CARD, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, LIMITS, YOU KNOW, LOW BECAUSE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW.

AND THEN ALSO OUR OWN POLICY IS STARTING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE STARTING TO USE PURCHASE ORDERS.

UH, AND SO, SO THE CREDIT CARD SHOULD REALLY BE USED FREQUENTLY FOR SMALL THINGS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ORDERED QUICKLY, AND MAYBE THE PROVIDER, THE VENDOR'S NOT SET UP TO WITH US AS A VENDOR, TO, TO, TO DO A CHECK PAPERWORK THAT, AND WE CAN ORDER SOMETHING.

SO IT'S REALLY SMALLER PURCHASES.

MM-HMM.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD CHECKS AND BALANCE.

YEP.

SHE HAS LATITUDE OF, UH, SIGNING ON A PURCHASE ORDER IS MUCH LARGER THAN $5,000.

AS LONG AS AN APPROVED BUDGET ITEM.

SO WE ARE GIVING HER THE LATITUDE TO PERFORM THE TASK ON CITY'S BEHALF AND TO LIMIT HER, TAKE HER NAME OFF THE CREDIT CARD.

IT JUST GONNA MAKE SENSE TO ME.

AND THAT'S ALL I ASK.

SO YEAH, SHE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE UNDER THE 2,500 AND, AND THAT'S WHERE SHE FITS, SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, UPDATES TO THE CITY'S CREDIT CARD POLICY AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BROUGHT US SECOND AND A COUNCIL AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM TWO IS DISCUSSING CONSIDERED UPDATES TO THE CITY'S TRAVEL POLICY.

AND SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[2. Discuss and consider updates to the city’s travel policy – James Bryson ]

AND AGAIN, AS, AS I MENTIONED, THE PROCUREMENT POLICY REFERS BACK TO THE TRAVEL POLICY, UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THE CREDIT CARD'S USED FOR TRAINING AND TRAVEL, HOTEL RESERVATIONS AND SUCH.

AND SO UPON READING THE TRAVEL POLICY, UM, WHAT WE KIND OF TRY TO DO IS STRENGTHEN IT.

SO YOU SAW WHERE IT'S IN SEVERAL PLACES, IT WOULD SAY THE CITY WOULD PAY ACTUAL COSTS.

SO WE STRENGTHENED IT TO ACTUAL COSTS THAT WERE REASONABLE AND NECESSARY.

AND THEN WITH REGARD TO, SAY, HOTEL COSTS, THERE WASN'T REALLY A GUIDELINE AS TO WHAT THAT LEVEL OF COST WOULD BE.

SO BY PUTTING IN THE GSA REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY HAVE THE, THE EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE STANDARD IS FOR THAT CITY AND GIVES US A BASIS AS TO WHAT THEIR COST FOR THAT HOTEL SHOULD BE, OR THE PER DIEMS FOR THE MILE THE MEALS.

AND AS SUCH, OTHERWISE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A BASIS.

AND PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO, YOU KNOW, ACTUALS KIND OF A VAGUE TERM.

PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF HOW MUCH THEY SHOULD SPEND ON A HOTEL ROOM.

DOES THAT ALSO COVER THERE FOR THEM? FOR THE MEALS? AND WE ACTUALLY DO ACTUAL COSTS FOR MEALS.

RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T DO IT PER DIEM.

AND HOW ABOUT, UH, MILEAGE TRAVEL? THIS IS BY THE IRS.

IF THEY HAVE A PERSONAL VEHICLE? IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER THE IRS REQUIREMENT IS.

I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO 57 CENTS RIGHT NOW.

MAYBE 58.

IT'S GONE UP 50 THINK SO THAT'LL BE IN THE TRAVEL.

YEAH, THAT'S IN THE TRAVEL, YES.

RIGHT? LIKE IT'S CONSERVATIVE.

THEN I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT D WHICH I THINK IS ON THE NEXT PAGE.

WE TOOK OUT LIMOUSINES LI THE RED LIMOUSINES IS IN THE CURRENT POLICY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THE THE RED MEANS TAKE IT OUT.

CAUSE RED MEANS TAKE IT OUT.

I CAUGHT THAT TOO, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, DID THEY SWITCH IT? I'M SORRY.

HOW DID LIMOUSINES GET IN THERE? LIMOUSINES WAS IN OH SIX AND I, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY BACK IN OH SIX, I DON'T THINK THEY HAD UBER OR LYFT OR RENEW THOSE THINGS.

I NEED TO BRING LIMOUSINE DOESN'T MEAN LIMOUSINE, CORRECT.

TRAVELING.

I WAS GONNA THROW THAT IN BILL'S SPACE TODAY.

HE WAS, HE ALLOWED LIMOUSINE TO, I TOOK, I THINK THAT IT MEANT MORE OF A LI, YOU KNOW, TAXI TYPE SERVICE, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT LOOKED ODD, SO I YOU LIKE A TOWN CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD STILL CALL IT.

BUT WE'RE TAKING IT OUT REGARDLESS, SO YEAH.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD, IT JUST MADE SENSE TO USE THAT WORD INSTEAD.

AND I HAD MY CHANCE AND I NEVER RENTED .

DARN.

I WAS SURPRISED NO ONE TOOK US UP ON IT.

, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS INS I DIDN'T ASK YOU IF YOU, DID WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR ANY TO DISCUSSING? OKAY.

WELL, I'M NOT HEARING ANY MORE, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS ONE HERE.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION COUNSEL, MR. MIAM, THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE RE UH, UPDATES TO THE CITY TRAVEL POLICY AS REQUESTED.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

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SANK.

ILL SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BROAD US.

UH, THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS, AGE RANGE, AND TERM OF OFFICE MEMBERS OF THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS, UH, REQUEST.

PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

UH, ANY OPPOSE? ALL RIGHT.

[3. Discuss changing the number of members, age range and term of office for members of the Youth Advisory Commission – Robin Hyden]

ROBERT? YES.

SO, UM, ONCE, WHEN TERRY HAD RESIGNED, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN OVER THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND THEN OF COURSE, COVID HIT.

AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THE PROGRAM BACK GOING.

SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF STRUGGLING TO GET THE MEMBERS IN THAT WE NEED.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR, WHICH ALL APPROVED, UM, MONTH OR SO BACK.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR QUORUM.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH THAT.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF TAKE THIS, THE, THE COMMISSION INTO A LITTLE BIT IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN MORE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, AND WE WANT THAT TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEIR INPUT.

WE WANT ALL THEIR THING, UH, THE STUFF, IDEAS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN GIVE US.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THE COMMISSION AT FOUR MEMBERS.

NOW, WE WILL STILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT A TON, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE BOARD AS FOUR MEMBERS TO ENSURE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN GET A QUORUM AND REALLY GET GOING WITH THIS.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WANTING TO CHANGE THE TERM LIMITATIONS.

SO IN THE PAST IT WENT, UM, IT STOPPED DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

WE WANNA START TO HELP RECRUIT PEOPLE.

WE'RE THINKING THAT WE COULD START RECRUITING IN APRIL AND THEN, UM, DO THE ELECTIONS FOR THE NEW BOARD IN MAY WHEN BEFORE SCHOOL GETS OUT.

AND THEN THE NEW BOARD'S IN, AND WE CAN START WORKING ON THE SUMMER PROGRAM.

AND THEN THROUGHOUT THAT YEAR THEY CAN START HELPING RECRUIT PEOPLE IN.

AND THAT WAY IT, AND IT'S ALSO A 12 MONTH BOARD INSTEAD OF JUST THE NINE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO ADDED INSTEAD OF 18, GO UP TO 19.

CUZ SOMETIMES THERE'S KIDS THAT ARE IN SCHOOL, SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE WOULD RECRUIT.

THEY MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF THEIR DATE.

SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN SCHOOL, REGISTERED IN SCHOOL, WE'D LIKE 'EM TO BE ABLE TO, TO AT, UH, BE ON THE BOARD IF APPROVED.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SORRY.

A LOT OF THE LITTLE CHANGES IN THERE, BUT I THINK, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION WITH THE, THE GROUP.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THEM TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN PROGRAMMING ASPECTS FOR THE YOUTH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY IN THE TEENAGE GROUP, WE'RE REALLY LACKING RIGHT NOW.

CAN WE JUST MAKE THE LANGUAGE REFLECT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL AND NOT JUST TO AN AGE GROUP TO AN AGE? UM, WELL, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, HOMESCHOOLERS ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE, SO DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ENROLLED.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, UM, YEAH, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT HOMESCHOOLERS ARE ENROLLED MM-HMM.

OR THERE ARE FREEFORM OUT THERE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN SCHOOL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A SHERRY QUESTION ON THAT ONE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

I CAN, I CAN, I CAN GIVE THAT A TRY.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW A CHANGE IN THE WORDING MM-HMM.

, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

JUST SO CHANGING THE NUMBER OF COMMISSION MEMBERS FROM EIGHT TO FOUR.

UM, INCREASE THE AGE LIMIT OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS FROM 12 TO 18 TO 12 TO 19 YEARS OLD.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAD SAID AS, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ENROLLED IN SOME SORT OF SCHOOL, SORRY, I'M, I'M SORRY.

I KNOW LAWYERS GET NITPICKY, BUT THERE ARE KIDS THAT GRADUATE EARLY.

DO YOU NOT WANT THEM ON THE YAK, THE SMART? NO.

REALLY, THE ONLY THING I DON'T, MAYBE I'M WORDING IT INCORRECTLY TO TRY TO AVOID IS KIDS WHO ARE BEYOND SCHOOL AGE, YOU KNOW, THE 19 YEAR OLD YOU HAVE GRADUATED.

CORRECT.

THAT'S, I CAN MAKE IT 19 AS LONG AS STILL ENROLLED IN SCHOOL.

LET'S DO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

AND THEN, YEAH, CHANGE THE TERM OF OFFICE FROM AUGUST 1ST TO MAY 31ST OF EACH YEAR TO RUN FROM MAY 1ST TO APRIL 30TH FOR ONE YEAR TERMS IS WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.

ANY COMMENT ON THAT ONE? OKAY.

SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

IS THAT THE LAST CHANGE THAT YOU REQUESTED? MM-HMM.

? MM-HMM.

? YES, SIR.

SO I'M HEARING THAT, UH, WITH THE FIRST PROPOSAL, UH, EVERYTHING'S OKAY WITH THAT, EXCEPT WE WANT TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT AND SHERRY CAN BRING THAT BACK.

MM-HMM.

? YES, SIR.

AND THEN THE SECOND PROPOSED CHANGE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO DO YOU WANNA BRING THIS BACK TO US? I WILL.

WE DIDN'T BRING IT BACK.

IS THERE, IS THERE ANY VOTE WE CAN TAKE NOW TO BRING IT BACK ON CONSENT NEXT TIME OR SOMETHING? OR NO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FIRST READING ON THE ORDINANCE.

YOU HAVE TO READ IT OUT LOUD.

THAT'S AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.

IT FOUR, DISCUSS, UH, A DRAFT OF ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES FROM PARKING IN PUBLIC PARKING LOT.

I GOTCHA.

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ITS NOT A POLICY THING.

[4. Discuss draft of ordinance to prohibit commercial vehicles from parking in public parking lots – Sherri Russell]

SHERRY.

SO IF YOU COULD GO ONE MORE PAGE TURN.

UM, AFTER I WROTE THIS, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS.

UHOH, I HAVE, THEY'RE NOT BIG THOUGHTS.

DON'T WORRY.

I HAVE A GENERIC, DON'T PARK A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IN OUR PUBLICLY MAINTAINED PARKING LOTS EXCEPT WHEN AND USED, BUT THEN I, THAT'S VERY VAGUE.

THEN I HAVE THIS LIST OF ONE THROUGH 10 IS WHAT WE DON'T ALLOW IN RESIDENTIAL.

UNLESS OF COURSE THEY'RE DELIVERING OR SOMETHING.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU ALL COULD SAY ONE, ONE THROUGH 10 AND THEN I COULD JUST REFER TO THAT.

OR YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THIS AND TELL ME WHAT DON'T YOU WANT TO TAKE UP SPACE IN THE CITY PARKING LOTS.

AND I COULD JUST LIST THOSE CUZ WE WENT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY REMEMBER, BUT I, HE, WE WENT THROUGH IT A LOT.

TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT WORDS TO USE AND WHAT TO PREVENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL PERSONALLY, LIKE THE SECOND SECTION BETTER, IT JUST KIND OF SPECIFY, NOT VAGUE MM-HMM.

ON WHAT'S, UH, ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT.

NONE OF MODESTO'S LIMOUSINES.

NO LUMOS.

AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANNA PICK, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM I DON'T KNOW IF WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH LIMOUSINES IN OUR AREA.

WE'RE ADDRESSING PUBLIC PARKING.

UM, BUT AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S NOT LIKE SCHOOL BUSES STUFF ARE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE BEING USED IN THEIR CAPACITY FOR THE DAY, THEY'RE ALLOWED MM-HMM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO IF THERE'S A BASEBALL GAME HAPPENING AT THE PARK, IT'S OKAY.

THAT WON'T INTERFERE WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT THE DRIVERS BRING 'EM HOME OR CLOSE TO.

UH, IF THEY AT A, I THINK SOME OF 'EM LEAVE 'EM IN PARKING LOTS OR CHURCH PARKING LOTS.

UH, PRIVATE PARKING LOTS.

WELL, IT'S PRIVATE.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE NOTICED ANY, I MEAN, I VERY RARELY DID I SEE ANY SCHOOL BUSES ANYMORE PARKED IN ANY PLACE AROUND TOWN OTHER THAN AT THE, AT THE BUS BARNS.

BUT, AND I'M ASSUMING WHEN WE SAY LAWFUL BUSINESS ACTIVITY, THAT WILL COVER THINGS LIKE WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE TRUCKS AND STUFF PARKED FOR THE VOW 22 WALK MM-HMM.

OR FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS.

SO THAT DOESN'T CATCH ANYBODY THERE, UH, CAN MAKE LAWFUL BUSINESS OR CITY ACTIVITY TO CATCH THAT.

THE CITY ACTIVITY WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE, DURING A HURRICANE, IF THERE'S DEBRIS CLEANUP, WE'LL ALLOW THEM TO PARK AT THE, UH, REC CENTER PARKING LOT.

BEN? I THINK WE ALSO LET THAT PARKING LOT OFF OF CENTER WAY ACT SOMETIMES AS A LAY DOWN YARD IF PEOPLE ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE WE'VE NEEDED THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE CITY ACTIVITY.

WHAT ABOUT OVERNIGHT PARKING? WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THERE, THEN THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THERE OVERNIGHT.

JUST WOULD INCLUDE THAT.

WOULD THE, UH, CITY ACTIVITY, WOULD THAT INCLUDE IF WE GAVE SOMEONE PERMISSION, IF THEY CAME AND ASKED, HEY, IS THIS OKAY? AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S NOT REALLY A, UH, CITY ACTIVITY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SERVING A CITY NEEDS.

SO, UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO ADD SOMETHING THAT SAID THE CITY MANAGER CAN ALLOW SOMEONE TO TEMPORARILY STOP THEIR NO.

MODEST MODESTO DOESN'T WORK.

NOT WORTH THAT.

I I WAS JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

REALLY? SO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES LESS THAN 35 FOOT THAT AREN'T OTHERWISE ONE THROUGH NINE WOULD BE, WELL, YEAH, I THINK WE DID THAT CAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAYS.

NO, JUST, JUST TIE BACK TO THIS ALL TIES BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WRECK AND MM-HMM.

, UH, SEMIS PARKING AT, IN NEIGHBORHOODS MM-HMM.

AND STUFF.

UM, I'LL JUST CLARIFY.

CITY BUSINESS IN THERE ALSO.

I WAS THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S GUBA.

THIS IS A MANAGER FOR THE BRAS

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MALL.

UM, I I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

YOU PUT PUBLICLY MAINTAINED PARKING LOTS.

IS THAT CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS ONLY? YES.

THAT'S CITY OWNED, RIGHT? SO NOT PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC.

YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO WITH YOUR MAR PARKING LOT.

YOU CAN PAT, YOU CAN PATCH IT AND REBUILD IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT TO.

BEAUTIFUL WORK.

HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THANK YOU.

DID YOU GET SOME DIRECTION? I DO.

ARE YOU VERY CLEAR? YES.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, WELL THEN, UH, YOU'LL BRING US BACK SOMETHING THAT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

NOW THE, I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING THIS, THIS WOULD NOT FIX THIS SITUATION AT THE HOTEL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING, BUT THAT'S ALREADY CONTROLLED BY, THAT'S ALREADY ANOTHER, THE HOTEL.

THE PARKING IN THE STREETS.

PARKING IN THE STREETS ALREADY.

NOT YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S HOW THIS WHOLE THING STARTED.

BUT YEAH, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'LL HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'LL ALLOW US TO PUT, UH, SIGNS UP AT, AT THE PARKING LOT.

AT THE PARKING MM-HMM.

, PUBLIC PARKING SPACES, PARKING AREA.

THIS ONE HAD STARTED COUNCILMAN SING, HANIA HAD SAW MM-HMM.

, A COUPLE OF TRUCKS PARK IN THE, I GUESS THE, UH, PARKING LOT ON CIRCLE, CIRCLE WAY.

UH, CLOSE BY THE CHICKEN EXPRESS.

YEP.

ACROSS FROM OF THE BASEBALL FIELDS.

IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADDING POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIAL WEAPONS, UH, AND TACTICS, UH, TEAM ESSENTIAL EQUIPMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2223, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UM, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UH, IF THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE.

ITEM FIVE

[5. Discuss and consider adding Police Department Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) team essential equipment to the FY 2223 Capital Improvement Plan - Paul Kibodeaux]

CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

SO, UM, TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT OUR TEAM DOES.

IT'S NOT A PART OF OUR JOB THAT REALLY EVERYBODY'S SUPER FAMILIAR WITH, CUZ IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR SURE.

UH, WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT REALLY WITH MOST CITIES OUR SIZE IN THIS AREA.

UH, AS FAR AS HOW WE RESPOND, WE USE THIS PREDOMINANTLY FOR NARCOTICS SEARCH WARRANTS, UH, OTHER SEARCH WARRANTS, UH, HIGH RISK APPREHENSIONS.

UH, WE'VE USED IT FOR BARRICADED SUBJECTS AS WELL.

UH, SO THE OTHER WAY WE OPERATE WITH THAT, OUR PATROLMAN, THAT'S BASICALLY, UH, BY CHOICE.

IT IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM WHERE ON TOP OF THEIR REGULAR DUTIES, OUR OFFICERS VOLUNTEER, UH, OR PUT THEIR NAME IN A HAT, BASICALLY TO BE CHOSEN FOR, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE TACTICAL RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH IS HOW WE OPERATE.

UM, WITH THAT, WE PROVIDE TRAINING.

UH, THEY TRAIN WITH OTHER AGENCY MEMBERS THAT ASSIST WITH OUR TEAM TO KEEP APPROPRIATE NUMBERS, UH, OF THE TEAM GOING.

UM, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF REFERENCE, THERE ARE, UH, REALLY THREE LAYERS.

UH, THE, UH, HOW WE OPERATE AS A TACTICAL RESPONSE TEAM IS, UH, THE MAIN, I GUESS, BENCHMARK, IF YOU WILL, IS SET WITH THE NATIONAL TACTICAL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, THIS DOCUMENT KIND OF GUIDES WHAT TRAINING, UH, WHAT EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT YOU MAY NEED TO OPERATE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

UH, SO ON ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM, YOU HAVE A TACTICAL RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH SOME LOOSELY REFERRED TO AS A TIER THREE.

UH, TIER ONES ARE, ARE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

LAP D NEW YORK, UH, PLACES THAT THEIR OFFICERS ARE FULL-TIME TACTICAL OFFICERS.

THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS TO PREPARE EQUIPMENT, TRAIN TO RESPOND, UM, TO REALLY ANY TYPE OF SITUATION, INCLUDING, UM, EVEN A HOSTAGE RESCUE, WHICH IS KIND OF A DRAWING LINE FOR PROFICIENCY.

UH, SO THEY CAN RESPOND TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, INCLUDING SOMETHING AS, AS DIFFICULT AS, AS A HOSTAGE RESCUE.

UH, FROM THERE, A TIER TWO, UH, IS SORT OF IN THAT SAME VEIN AS A TIER ONE, EXCEPT THEY'RE EXCLUDED.

THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE EITHER THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS AND RESOURCES REQUIRED OR THE TRAINING TO RESPOND TO A, UM, YEAH, TO A HOSTAGE RESCUE TYPE SITUATION.

MOST, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AGENCIES OUR SIZE AND IN THIS AREA OPERATE AS TACTICAL RESPONSE TEAMS. UH, WITH THAT, THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY NT O A, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT, UH, WE DO TRAIN QUITE REGULARLY, UH,

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WHICH IS A GREAT CREDIT TO THE OFFICERS THAT, THAT PARTICIPATE ON TOP OF THEIR REGULAR DUTIES EVERY DAY.

UM, SO HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THIS GREATLY, AND I CERTAINLY, UH, HOPE YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS WAS KIND OF RUSHED ON YOU.

UH, IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE SAW THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE, UH, IN OUR EQUIPMENT AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

UH, WE CERTAINLY ARE SUFFICIENT IN OUR RESPONSE, BUT THIS WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.

UM, WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSS THIS COMING UP ON BUDGET, UH, WE WERE REALLY MORE DISCUSSING A LINE ITEM.

UH, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR AS WE OPERATE, THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE LINE FOR OUR TEAM.

UH, ANY AMMUNITIONS WE MAY USE.

IT COMES OUT OF THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT'S AMMUNITION, UH, BUDGET, UH, LIKEWISE WITH THE CLOTHING, UH, UNIFORMS, UM, OVERTIME, ALL OF THAT IS IN THAT WE, WE WERE THINKING WE'D LIKE TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE THINGS, BUT ALSO, UH, INCORPORATE IN THAT LINE ITEM A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EQUIPMENT THAT COMES, UM, SUCH AS VEST AND HELMETS.

THEY HAVE A USUALLY EIGHT TO 10 YEAR PERIOD THAT THEY'RE GOOD FOR, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REPLACE 'EM.

WE'RE COMING UP ON A PLACE NEXT YEAR WHERE WE'LL BE REPLA NEEDING TO REPLACE THREE, UH, PAST THAT, AND MOST OF THEM WILL BE COMING DUE THE YEAR AFTER.

SO INCLUDING A LINE ITEM TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS WE USE EVERY YEAR, AMMUNITION, OVERTIME AND SUCH.

UH, WE WERE GOING TO TRY AND INCORPORATE, UH, SOME EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT WITH THAT, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ITSELF WITH SOME SAVINGS AND ANOTHER C I P PROGRAM THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

UH, AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, OF COURSE, BRING THIS BEFORE YOU, SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TO MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT AND, UH, TRY AND GET YOUR APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

CHIEF.

I KNOW THIS, UH, SWAT TEAM IS NOT ONLY USED FOR OUR CITIES, BUT SURROUNDING CITIES AS WELL.

AND THESE PEOPLE WHO, OFFICERS WHO SIGN UP FOR THAT, UH, REALLY DO THAT ON THEIR OWN KIND OF OWN TIME AND, UH, TRAIN ON THEIR OWN TIME, I SHOULD SAY.

AND, UH, DO EXCELLENT JOB.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE THE BEST, SAFEST EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO USE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES SO THEY CAN GET BACK HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES AFTER THEY ARE CALLED FOR SUCH DUTY.

SO I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE YES, UH, THEY, THEY DO THEIR, UH, 40 HOURS A WEEK, UH, ON PATROL, UH, BUT THEY ALSO STAY BY THEIR PHONES AT THE READY.

UH, IF WE HAVE, UH, SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AND IT DOES, WE'VE RUN, I THINK, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, CAME UP WITH SOME FIGURES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, ABOUT 84 DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT EXERCISES.

AND SO, AND THAT'S ON TOP.

THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING THE TIME THEY SPEND TRAINING, UH, ON THEIR OWN AS WELL, WHICH THEY DO GET OVERTIME FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY VOLUNTEERS, THOUGH, IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THEY USE A LOT OF THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL INVEST THEIR OWN FUNDS AND THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT.

YOU KNOW, IN MY TIME IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, THAT HAS, HAS BEEN THE CASE.

IF COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO DO THIS.

UM, YOU WANT TO BE SAFE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T FEEL SUPPORTED IN THAT AT ALL.

UH, WE HAVE JUST MAYBE EIGHT YEARS OR SO CAME MAYBE SEVEN AND ASKED FOR, FOR SOME BODY ARMOR, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE CARRY AND HELMETS AND, AND COUNCIL WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE IN THAT.

UH, BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TEAM AND, AND ITS ACTIVITY CURRENTLY, UM, WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM FREEPORT AND FROM PRECINCT ONE THAT PARTICIPATE AND TRAIN AND EXERCISE WITH US.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A TEAM THAT'S, THAT'S RUNNING.

UM, WE ARE CALLED UPON QUITE OFTEN TO ASSIST, WHICH IS GREAT.

WE ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, OUR BOUNDARIES AREN'T, UH, JUST LIKE JACKSON WHEN IT COMES TO, TO DEALING WITH CRIME.

AND, UH, I'M PROUD THAT WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THESE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.

AND, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAKE A LEAP FORWARD.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AND TALK ABOUT THAT LINE ITEM.

UM, BUT IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, MOVING SOME OF THAT INITIAL COST OF EQUIPMENT HELPS US TO KEEP A LOWER LINE ITEM AND COVER JUST MAYBE OVERTIME AND, AND AMMUNITION AND SOME UNIFORM REPLACEMENT AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'LL, AGAIN, LIKE THE CHIEF MENTIONED, YOU'LL SEE THIS AS, UM, MOST LIKELY A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR A SMALLER AMOUNT, NOT THIS, BUT

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THE MAYOR AND I HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ON FRIDAY, YOU KNOW, ALSO, HOW DO WE TRY TO INCORPORATE THIS WHERE YOU'RE NOT HOPING FOR SAVINGS ON A PROJECT OR THE CIP P WAS THE SAVINGS.

SO JAMES AND THE CHIEF WILL BE GETTING ALSO TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THIS IN, WELL, TO INCORPORATE THIS GOING FORWARD IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN AND STUFF.

SO IT'S FUNDED LIKE A POLICE CAR.

SO IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, $200,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT OR 150, IT'S AMORTIZED OVER 10 YEARS.

SO WHEN IT COMES DUE, THE MONEY'S THERE AND WE'RE NOT HAVING TO HOPE THAT THERE'S SAVINGS IN ANOTHER PROJECT.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT AS WELL.

AND TO ADD, IT'S ALSO A MORE ACCURATE WAY TO TRACK THE TRUE EXPENSES OF THE TEAM AND THE NEEDS.

WELL, THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE I MENTIONED TO SEVERAL OF YOU THIS EARLIER TODAY, WAS, UH, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, I SPENT THE MORNING, UH, IN HOUSTON IN MEETINGS, UH, ON STATE LEGISLATURE AND ALSO WITH H G A C.

AND ONE OF THE, UH, COMMITTEES THAT I CHAIR FOR H G A C IS, UH, INVOLVED WITH, UH, PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS AND STUFF.

AND IT'S WHERE GRANT FUND DOLLARS ARE HANDED OUT OR ISSUED IN AND APPROVED.

AND ONE OF 'EM WAS TODAY WAS, UH, I, IN THE MEETING THAT I CHAIRED, UH, WE APPROVED 1.7 MILLION TO GO INTO THE, THE AREA OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

AND, UH, IN THAT, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, HALF MILLION DOLLARS WAS FOR THREE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO GET SIMILAR EQUIPMENT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE US AS WE, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN AND GO AFTER SOME OF THESE GRANT DOLLARS.

I MEAN, WE ALL HATE TO PAY TAXES, BUT IF WE HAVE TO PAY 'EM, WE'D LIKE TO BRING THEM BACK.

AND, UH, SO, UM, I THINK OUT OF THE 33 PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, THEY'RE WELL OVER A TOTAL OF THE 1.7 MILLION.

UH, I THINK 10 OF THE 33 WERE FOR THESE TYPE OF OPERATIONS SUPPORTING THAT STUFF.

SO, CERTAINLY, YEAH.

MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM SIX, AWARD BID NUMBER 22 1 0 2 1 2 3 2 MATULA MATULA FOR STREET PANEL REPAIRS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $273,182.

AND, AND FORTUNATELY, UH, THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE IS, IS ANOTHER LARGE ITEM EXPENSE.

AND I ACTUALLY WAS THE ONE THAT WROTE THE GRANT AND RECEIVED A GRANT IN 2010, UH, FOR THAT.

SO, UH, POINT WELL TAKEN TO, UH, KEEP TRACK.

AGAIN, THIS WAS KIND OF A SHORT PLAN THING.

UH, USUALLY I, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL INVOLVED IN BUDGET AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CIS FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, I JUST FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT WAS, IT WAS THERE, IT HAPPENED TO BE A SAVINGS IN ANOTHER.

AND AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THE NEED AND THAT WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS, UH, QUICKLY THIS WAY.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK, UH, LIKE COUNCIL HANYA SAID IS THAT WE'VE, WE ALL ON THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCILS IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE.

AND, UH, BUT IT'S HARD TO, FOR US TO SUPPORT YOU WITH EVERYTHING IF WE DON'T HEAR WHAT YOU NEED.

SO BE SURE AND LET US KNOW, UH, WHAT YOU NEED.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE, UH, APPROVE ADDING POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS, SWAT TEAM, ESSENTIALLY EQUIPMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2223, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS REQUESTED.

SECOND, ALL, I'M HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SINNIA, AND I'LL SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SETH AND A THIRD BY BAKER.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? CLOSE THIRD, CLOSE THIRD CLOSE SECOND.

CLOSE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[6. Award Bid No. 22-10-2123 to Matula & Matula for street panel repairs in an amount not to exceed $273,182 – Sabrina England ]

SABRINA, THIS IS THE FIRST AWARD UNDER THIS BOND PROJECT.

UM, THE BACKUP SHOULD SHOW YOU THE LISTINGS OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.

UH, WE WERE QUITE HAPPY WITH THE BID WHEN WE OPENED IT.

UH, IT WAS A LITTLE, WE WERE A LITTLE HESITANT.

WE'RE A LITTLE, UH, WORRIED THAT THE BIDS MIGHT COME IN VERY, VERY HIGH, WHICH AS SOME OF THE OTHER BIDS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS HAVE, UH, BUT THIS ONE CAME IN PLEASANTLY SURPRISING.

SO, UH, WE'VE UTILIZED MATULA MATULA BEFORE.

WE ARE SATISFIED WITH THEIR WORK AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND AWARD MATULA AND MATULA THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THIS SECTION OF THE PROJECT.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY, SO GOOD.

WE GOT A LIST OF WHERE YOU WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THE WORK.

THAT'S, YES.

AND WE'RE HAVING A PRE-CON MEETING TOMORROW, AT WHICH POINT WE WILL ESTABLISH EXACTLY HOW WE WANNA PROCEED DOWN THIS LIST.

AND THE BIG ONE IS THE INTERSECTION OF OCD, SYCAMORE OCD.

THAT ONE IS GONNA KIND OF DETERMINE HOW WE DO ALL THE REST OF THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA WANNA MAKE SURE ON, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BLOCK, OFFER SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL THERE.

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UH, AND SO WE WANT MAYBE IF WE CAN PUSH IT TO WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA INTERFERE WITH SCHOOL SEASON.

UM, SO THEN THAT WOULD WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND START ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE AT ON OYSTER CREEK DRIVE, RIGHT THERE AT SYCAMORE, SYCAMORE WILLOW SY CREEK.

SYCAMORE WILLOW, THAT INTERSECTION.

OH, CAN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT A ROUNDABOUT IN? WE CERTAINLY CAN PUT A ROUNDABOUT IN IF YOU WANT ONE.

I KNOW MODESTO WOULD BE SO HAPPY.

THAT'S FOR A FUTURE MEETING CAMERA MOBILITY MASTER PLAN MEETING.

NOT FOR 270.

NOT FOR 200, NOT 200.

NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND THEN START, YOU KNOW, BUILD LITTLE THINGS ON THE SIDE AND WE CAN JUST KIND OF ADD 'EM UP.

WELL, IT JUST GETS BACK TO, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK, I THINK I'VE SAID IT, I THINK SEVERAL OF US SAID IT BEFORE, IS THAT THE THING ISS DISAPPOINTING ABOUT STREET PANEL REPLACEMENT IS GOOD THING ABOUT IS IT, IT GETS REPAIRS BECAUSE WE CAN'T REPAIR THE STREET, THE FULL STREET ALL AT ONE TIME.

BUT THE BAD PART ABOUT IT IS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PANEL IS, IS IT'S KINDA LIKE THROWING MONEY AWAY BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE TO JUST RE REPLACE, REMOVE THAT PANEL YOU PUT IN WHEN YOU PUT THE STREET IN.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT ALL THAT CRAZY ABOUT, UH, PANEL REPLACEMENT.

UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE BOUNCED AROUND IT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE, BUT THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION OF, OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING, YOU KNOW, THE SUMS OF MONEY AND START LOOKING AT SECTIONS OF STREETS INSTEAD OF PANELS.

AND, UM, THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT THROWING AWAY MONEY, GOOD MONEY, UH, AT A LATER DATE TYPE STUFF.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH CHASING, CHASING THIS, UH, ISSUE.

UH, AND, UH, THIS IS THE BEST, BEST WAY WE HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE GOOD NEWS OUT OF THIS ONE, LIKE, UM, SABRINA ALLUDED TO, UM, I THINK WE WERE ANTICIPATING WHEN WE PUT THE BID TOGETHER THAT IT WAS GONNA COME AROUND 750, 800,000 .

WE WERE WORRIED , SO WE WERE WORRIED WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE MILLION.

SO PLEASANTLY SURPRISE, WE'RE GO BACK WITH THE ENGINEER NOW AT THAT.

WE HAD A LONGER LIST.

WE'LL WORK OUT AND HAVE ANOTHER BID.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, PRETTY SOON.

UM, AND, UH, START ON THE, ON THE NEXT, UH, SET.

UM, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHERE THE, WHERE THE LIST IS TAKING US, BUT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET MUCH FURTHER THAN WE THOUGHT.

DID YOU GET A FEEL FROM, UH, ANY OF THIS, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT BID ON WHY THE COSTS WERE LOWER THAN WHAT WE KIND OF EXPECTED? SAL ATTENDED THAT PRE-BID MEETING, THAT BREAD OPENING MEETING, AND HE HAS A BETTER, A BETTER REPORT WITH THE TALKED AND THE CONTRACT.

YEAH, HE DID.

COME ON GUYS, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT WAS SOME AMOUNT OF, UH, WORK, UH, LOADS.

AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, MATULA WAS, UH, NEEDING TO HAVE SOME WORK AND THEY WERE WILLING TO CUT THEIR PROFITS DOWN AS AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.

UH, THEY BROUGHT THE, THE COST OF, UH, OF ALL THE MATERIALS DOWN TO THE BARE, BARE BASICS.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY DO WE NEED TO STRIKE QUICK AGAIN? WE NEED TO STRIKE YEAH.

STRIKE PANEL.

SO LET'S DO THAT SOME MORE.

IT'S, IT'S GOOD WHEN THE NUMBERS WORK IN OUR DIRECTION.

SO, SO DO WE HAVE ANOTHER LIST GOING FOR THE OTHER STREET? WE DO HAVE A LISTED, UH, IN THE PROCESS.

UM, AND I WILL BE SPEAKING WITH THE ENGINEER TOMORROW.

UH, AND, AND ADDITIONALLY WITH SAL AND EDDIE, UH, BUT RICK, WHEN HE WAS RICK SMITH WHEN HE WAS PUBLIC WORK SUPERINTENDENT AND RAUL WENT OUT AND THEY MADE A LIST.

AND THEN, SO WE'VE STILL BEEN ADDING TO THAT LIST AND WE EVALUATE IT AND SEE WHICH ONES, WHICH PROJECTS WE'RE GONNA GIVE US ARE BIGGER BANG FOR THE BUCK, AND WHICH ONES ARE THE WORST ONES THAT WE NEED TO GET TO STREET THEY SEE MISSING FROM THE LIST IS FILLING REALLY FAST.

SO EVERY, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, PORT ON BANYAN STREET, UH, IF YOU DRIVE ON IT SPEED LIMIT, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, LOSE CONTROL OF YOUR VEHICLE.

SO, UH, IT ALL STARTED WITH A SMALL CRACK AND THE CONCRETE, AND THEY HAVE JUST PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN VERY BAD.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, SIR.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE NEXT LIST HAS, WE'VE ALREADY DONE TWO REPAIRS ON BANYON, THEN WE DID THEM ON THE FIRST TIME THAT WE DID OUR STREET PANEL REPAIRS.

UH, AND THEN WE'VE MOVED ON TO THIS, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE'VE GOT ON THERE.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE REPAIRS AND THOSE REPAIRS WERE NOT FEELING AS BADLY AS THESE OTHER ONES ARE.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T RECENTLY DRIVEN THROUGH THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST TO, UH, HAVE SOMEBODY DRIVE DOWN.

WE'LL LOOK AT IT.

I DIDN'T SEE THE 20 CENTS .

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? TAKE A MOTION.

MR. MERRILL.

I, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AWARD BID NUMBER 22 DASH ONE 10 DASH 21 23 2 MATULA MATULA FOR STREET PANEL REPAIRS AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $273,182 AS PRESENTED SECOND AND 20 CENTS.

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IT'S, IT'S ON HIS BID, BUT I'LL JUST JOKING.

UH, I THINK I HEARD, UH, SECOND.

UH, ITEM SEVEN, UH, CONSTRUCTION UPDATES.

ALL IN FAVOR ON, AYE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THANK YOU.

[7. Construction Updates]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION UPDATES? JUST FOR INFORMATION? UH, WE ARE GETTING INTO A FAIRLY, UH, UH, A PERIOD, WHEREAS WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, OPENING UP A LOT OF PROJECTS.

WE'RE GONNA BE OPENING UP BIDS TOMORROW ON THE, UH, DOG SHELTER.

UH, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE OPENING UP A PROJECT ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, HEADWORKS AT THE SHORE PLANT SHORTLY.

UH, WE ARE PUTTING IN A, UH, WE'RE STARTING ADVERTISING BIDS ON THE, UH, UH, RESTROOM, UH, PA UH, PARK RESTROOM FACILITIES, UH, AT PEEWEE AND AT DUNBAR.

SO ALL THOSE HERE.

AND WE ARE ALSO GONNA BE RECEIVING THE PLANS ON THE, UH, BOND PROJECT FOR THE, UH, NORTH SHADY OAKS, UH, GROUPING OF, UH, OF PROJECTS THERE.

SO ALL THIS THING IS STARTING TO COME IN AT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE IN A BUSY TYPE OF, OF SCHEDULE, UH, WHILE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL ONGOING, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY THE GENERAL PROJECT FUNDS, UH, SUCH AS THE TANK, WHICH IS, UH, STILL IN PROCESS, IN IN PROGRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKES PLACE.

AND OF COURSE, THE DOWNTOWN FACE, WHICH IS STARTING TO COME TO A, TO A FINAL STAGE, A FINAL STAGE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE FINISHING UP CONCRETE SHORTLY, AND THEN THEY WILL BE MOVING INTO THE SUBCONTRACTOR FACE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY CLEANING UP THE LANDSCAPE, UH, AND THE, UH, AND THE, UH, THE, UH, ARTWORK THAT, UH, WE STILL HAVE AND, UH, DOG, UH, THE BUS SHELTERS ALONG WITH THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE FINISHING TOUCHES, WHICH WILL TAKE US ALMOST TO THAT, THAT FAMOUS TIMELINE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETIME IN APRIL, UH, GETTING THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.

COULD YOU, CUZ WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT IN A LONG TIME.

THE OUTFALL SH POT , THAT IS A STICKING, MAJOR STICKING POINT.

UH, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S MOVED ANY, WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT MOVED THAT ALONG.

WHAT WE TRY TO DO UNTIL WE TOOK IT TO THE STATE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO, TO GRANT US SOMEWHAT OF A PERMIT IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE ON THAT WORK.

UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN, UH, PROGRESSING THAT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

UH, LIKEWISE WITH THE SIDEWALK COMING OFF OF THE BRANDON SCHOOL, UH, CONNECTING UP INTO THE CROSSWALK AT 2004.

UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED, WE HAVE MADE, UH, THE PERMIT ANOTHER PERMIT SUBMITTAL, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE MAY HAVE BETTER CHANCES.

AND THAT IS ON THE SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER ONE.

WE HAVE NOT PURSUED THE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECT, BUT THE, THE OUTFALL FROM SHON, I MEAN, YOU HAVE MADE, YOU'VE MADE THE DECISION TO GO WITH THE IDENTITY PIPE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, BECAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WASN'T ANY INTERESTING, ANY INTEREST IN THOSE PARTIES THAT CAN, THAT CAN DO THAT TYPE OF WORK, WHICH IS THE TRENCHLESS TYPE SITUATIONS.

UH, RUNNING PARALLEL WITH THE SOUND ABATEMENT WALL.

OF THAT DEAL THERE, UH, THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN, IN TAKING ON A PROJECT.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHY, I GUESS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS DOESN'T, UH, INTEREST A LOT OF, LOT OF THE LARGE CONTRACTORS.

WHAT WE STARTED TOYING UP, UH, TOYING WITH WAS THE ACTUAL OPEN CUT AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PIPE.

UH, WHICH WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WAS WILLING TO TAKE THAT, THAT CHANCELLOR.

UH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE QUITE A RISK FOR THE CONTRACTOR AND FOR US TOO.

NO, NO CHOICE ABOUT IT.

AND MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE STUDY'S BEING VERY TENTATIVE ABOUT ALLOWING THAT TYPE OF, UH, OPEN CUT WORK ALONG THEIR, ALONG THEIR, BUT THEIR, UM, THEIR SOUND WALL, THE SOUND WALL THAT RUNS ALONG THAT RIGHT DEAL THERE.

UH, I GUESS THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE BEING OFF OVERLY CAUTIOUS AND, AND LOOKING AT THE THING CLOSER, IS THAT DOT OR THAT'S TEXT OR TEXT TEXT, YES.

WE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN, WE ARE IN IN STATE RIGHT OF AWAY THERE MM-HMM.

AND IT'S REAL CLOSE TO THE,

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AND, UH, SO ANYTIME THAT WE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OPEN CUTTING THERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 15 TO 20 FOOT, UH, UH, DEPTH, YOU KNOW, IT BRINGS ABOUT A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES THAT THEY ARE NOT REALLY WILLING TO, TO BUY ON.

SO, SO ARE THEY REVIEWING THE PRELIMINARY PLAN? NO, THEY'RE NOT EVEN REVIEWING THE PLANS.

WE PUT IT, PUT IT OUT TO THEM FOR THEM TO, TO START CONSIDERING THAT.

AND THEY, NO, WE HAVE NOT FINISHED THOSE, THOSE PLANS NOW TRYING TO TEST THE WATERS TO SEE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GET ANY TYPE OF, UM, AND WE DID PRESENT THAT THING AFTER THAT MEETING WE HAD WITH TEXT ON, WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE I HAD, UH, SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVE IN THAT AREA, THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE WEAT DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF.

MM-HMM.

, THEY WERE ASKING, AND I, I CONTACTED MODESTO AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF, IF THE WEAT DEVELOPMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT IN A RETENTION.

AND THE ANSWER IS YES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT IT IN OR YET OR NOT.

THEY, THEY HAVE, THEY STARTED, THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED A FULL, UH, DETENTION BASE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY KNOW THAT I'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST, UH, UH, THEY RECALLED THAT, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, SHON ITSELF.

THAT ONE DAY IS GONNA HAVE TO BE, NEED TO BE DREDGED OUT SO THAT IT CAN FURTHER BE A BETTER RETENTION.

AND SO THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE GOT THE OUTFALL.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, A BAD SCENARIO STARTING TO BUILD UP.

PART OF THE OUTFALL WAS IMPROVED, UH, THIS PAST, UH, THIS PAST YEAR.

AND THAT WAS WITH A COMBINATION WITH THE V D D THAT, UH, WENT IN THERE FOR US.

AND, UH, REGRADED THE WHOLE DITCH GOING FROM THE, UH, FROM THE OUTFALL ALL THE WAY TO THE WALL.

AND THAT IS AT LEAST DONE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD DONE THE, THE JOINT, I MEAN THE, UH, JUNCTION BOX AND WE HAD MADE THAT REPAIR.

SO THE ONLY THING LEFT IN THAT, UH, IN THAT OUTFALL IS REPLACEMENT OF THAT PIPE FOR REHABBING OF THAT PIPE.

SO WHAT ALTERNATIVE DO WE HAVE IF WE DON'T GET TECH DOT COOPERATION? UH, WELL, WE, I MEAN, UM, IF IT WERE THAT, IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, IF THEY, IF WE WOULD, UH, GET A CONTRACT THAT THAT WOULD TAKE ON THE TRENCHLESS TYPE OF SITUATION THERE, AND THAT IS TRY TO LINE THAT PIPE THAT, UH, ONE OF THE PIPES THAT EXISTS THERE WITH A POLYETHYLENE, UH, CARRIER OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST.

AND TEXTILE WOULD NOT BAT AN EYE ON ALLOWING THAT THING BECAUSE THEN NOTHING WOULD BE THERE COMPROMISED.

AND WE WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT LEVEL ON THAT SITUATION.

THAT GROUND IS HIGHLY SATURATED WITH WATER.

UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE AN ENORMOUS, UH, DEWATERING TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON UN ON AN OPEN, UH, CUT TYPE CONDITION THERE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.

THAT'S REALLY, YEAH.

SO BEFORE YOU START OPENING UP THE GROUND, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEWATER IT WITH VACUUMS AND STUFF.

YOU HAVE TO DEWATER WITH WELL POINTS.

AND IT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY FROM, AND IT'S GONNA, LIKE I SAID, IT'S AT EIGHT, UH, IT GOES FROM ABOUT 14 TO 20 OF THE, UH, DEPTH OF THAT PARTNER.

SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PROJECTS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MUCH.

THANK YOU.

VISITOR COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY TO SIGN UP FOR VISITOR COMMENTS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO, TO FLOW OVER TO THE TEXT, SECOND SECTION OF THE

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, MR. BAKER, UH, HAVE COUNTY DAY NEXT WEEK IN AUSTIN.

SHRIMP BALL GONNA BE THURSDAY NIGHT.

TUESDAY NIGHT? TUESDAY NIGHT.

TUESDAY NIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

TUESDAY NIGHT, ONE OF THE T'S TUESDAY NIGHT.

I WAS, UH, CORRECTED TODAY AT LUNCH AND IT'S, IT'S IN IT, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO CALL IT A SHRIMP BOIL.

IT'S A SHRIMP.

IT IS A SHRIMP COCKTAIL BECAUSE IF IT WAS A SHRIMP BULL WOULD HAVE CORN AND POTATOES, .

OH.

SO YOU KNOW THE WORLD'S LARGEST SHRIMP COCKTAILS.

, YEAH.

WORLD'S LARGEST SHRIMP COCKTAIL OUT OF A BOAT.

JUST BROUGHT NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT.

T VERIZON DIDN'T MOVE IN UNTIL LIKE THIS WEEKEND OF LAST TO BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING OFF.

OH, THE ONLY THING I HAVE, THEY'RE PAINTING OR CLEANING THE, UH, DUNBAR TOWER WATER TOWER.

AND THEY HAVE MADE A KIND OF MESS ON THE PAINTING ON THE FRONT THERE.

ARE WE GONNA REPAINT THAT? THE LOGO AND STUFF ON IT? THE WHOLE TOWER'S GONNA BE PAINTED.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.

PAINT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK IT'S TRIPPED.

THAT'S JUST BLASTED OFF.

I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING IT.

UH, AT AND T DIDN'T MOVE AT

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SO THEY'VE NOT STARTED ANY KIND OF PAINTING.

THEY'RE JUST KIND OF, AND THEY HAD TO, UM, WE HAD A LITTLE ISSUE, SO THEY DID HAVE TO KIND OF RECONFIGURE HOW THEY WANTED TO, TO GO AHEAD AND STRIP THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF.

THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM WAS IS THAT BECAUSE OF VERIZON'S, UH, CONNECTIONS AND STUFF AND WHERE THEY'VE RUN CABLE ON THE GROUND, THE COMPANY COULDN'T DO THEIR STANDARD DRAPING YES.

AND ANCHORING OF THEIR DRAPING.

SO THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE DIFFERENT.

AND SO I SAW TODAY THAT THEY BROUGHT IN A HUGE RIG.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TO GET OFF THE, ALL THE VERIZON STUFF OFF WITH THAT.

THEY HAVE TO BRING IN A SPECIAL TOWER, TAKE ALL THEIR TOWERS, ALL THEIR ANTENNAS OFF, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING RUNNING IN ON THAT.

UH, AND YEAH, PROCEEDING ON THAT, DEB HAS BEEN KEEPING IN VERY CLOSE CONTACT WITH NOT ONLY, UM, CLARK THE GUY THAT IS MANAGING THIS WHOLE PROJECT FOR US, BUT ALSO WITH AT AND T AND THE COMPANY ITSELF.

SO, AND RICK AS WELL, THEY ARE VARIOUS MEETINGS EVERY DAY, UM, IN CALL PHONE CALLS WHERE THEY'RE FIGURING OUT HOW THAT'S GOING.

SO THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA REPAINT THE TOWER WHERE THE LOGO CAN, WE SWITCHED THE LOGO SO YOU CAN SEE IT COMING DOWN 2 88 RATHER THAN 2004.

SO RIGHT NOW THE TOWER HAS, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

YOU HAVE SOME LOGO FAVORING 2004.

SO JUST A SUGGESTION.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I CAN TALK TO DEB.

WE CAN SEE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA, WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE ABOUT DOING THAT.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU NOW WE'VE HAD THAT LOOKED AT MUDDY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THEIR LOGOS ANYMORE.

THEY USED TO DO LOGOS.

LOGOS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY DO A CENTER PUNCH OUTLINE OF THE LOGO.

MM.

AND SO MOVING IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE, BUT IT, THEY MAY DO IT DIFFERENT NOWADAYS.

THAT'S PROBABLY OLD SCHOOL.

I'LL, I'LL TALK TO DEB IN THE MORNING AND RICK, AND WE'LL SEE, UH, WE'LL ASK CLARK IN THE CONTRACTOR.

WE'LL JUST GET ENOUGH MAN MANPOWER AND JUST SPIN THE TOWEL TOWEL, SPIN THE WHOLE THING.

THAT WOULD BE WORKING TOO.

JUST PICK IT ALL UP, KIND OF SCOOCH IT OVER A LITTLE BIT.

IS GOOD.

IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE.

WE'LL, WE'LL SEE.

WE CAN ASK HIM.

SEREN, I THOUGHT WE AGREED WE WERE GONNA PAINT HOT ON IT.

AND THE NEXT ONE WE WERE GONNA DO COLD.

WELL, MODESTO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG SURPRISE.

NOW.

YOU'VE RANKED IT.

THE, UH, THE ANTENNAS THAT ARE COMING OFF, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THOSE CARRY LIKE SOAP? YOU NOT GONNA, THEY THEY ARE, THEY ARE.

IT'S VERIZON.

YOUR SYSTEM'S GONNA GO DOWN COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.

GOTTA HAVE NOTHING.

NO, THEY'LL PUT A TEMPORARY, THEY'RE PUTTING TEMPORARY SYSTEM IN.

IN THAT AREA.

NO, THEY'RE PUTTING A TEMPORARY SYSTEM IN TO, UM, ALLEVIATE ANY PROBLEMS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE BY REMOVING THE THINGS DOWN.

AND THEN ONCE WE'VE GOT IT ALL PAINTED AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN APPROVED, WE BUILD AT AT T WE'LL GO BACK AT T'S.

YOU SHOULDN'T, HOPEFULLY YOU SHOULDN'T SEE ANY ASSUMPTION IN YOUR SERVICE.

THEY MAY HAVE TO GO INTO THE OFFICE.

I THOUGHT, BUT THERE, PEOPLE RELY ON, YOU KNOW.

9 1 1 ANOTHER SCENE THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN THAT, UM, THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSING.

UM, THEY WERE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T, UH, ANY DISRUPTION SERVICE.

THERE'S 2 88 NORTHBOUND BETWEEN HERE AND ANGLETON THAT DROPS CALLS ALL DAY.

I CAN'T FIX THAT.

I'D HAVE TO GET YOU BRICK HOURS UP THERE TO, THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO SPEND THE TOWEL.

DIRECTION.

UH, CHASE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY? I'M GOOD.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

SO MODESTO, ANYTHING FROM STAFF? NO, SIR.

LINDA KNOW THE ADULT EASTER EGG HUNT TICKETS GO ON SALE MARCH TO FOUR, WHICH IS BEFORE OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

SO IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED, I, WE HAVE HAD SO MANY CALLS THAT I THINK THEY'RE GONNA SELL IT REALLY QUICK THIS YEAR.

UM, AND IT'S NOT ONLINE.

IT'S, YOU HAVE TO BE IN PERSON.

IT HAS TO BE IN PERSON.

WE START, PEOPLE START LINING UP.

LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE PEOPLE START LINING UP LIKE AROUND 7:00 AM WE DON'T OPEN THE DOORS UNTIL EIGHT.

SO WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT FOR THE ADULT EASTER? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT A MONDAY, TUESDAY WEEKEND.

IT'S ALL SATURDAY.

OH, SO YOU CAN MAKE IT YEAH.

COME EARLY.

SO, AND ALSO THE TEEN EGG HUNT, SO WE'LL HAVE 900 ADULTS AND THE OTHER FIELD WILL GO FOR THE TEENS AT THE SAME TIME.

SO IF Y'ALL ARE JUST, OKAY.