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[Call to Order]
ALL RIGHT.WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
THIS IS, UM, UH, THE MAY, THE MONDAY, MAY 1ST, 2023, REGULAR SESSION OF THE LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL, BEGINNING AT, UH, SIX 30 ISH.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TO BEGIN BY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCIL.
NUMBER SEVEN, HAVE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AMERICA, WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
A PLEASURE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL TO JOIN ME IN, UH, INVOCATION HEAVEN.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THE MEANING OF BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON US.
WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR TROOPS AS THEY CONTINUE TO PROTECT US FROM THOSE THAT WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS. PLEASE PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY LOOK OVER US EVERY DAY.
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO THE FAMILIES OF OUR TROOPS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AS THEY GIVE SO MUCH OF THEIR LI LOVED ONES TO US, AND TO PROTECT US EVERY DAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
BE WITH THEM IN THEIR DAILY LIVES AS THEY SERVE THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE SERVE OUR CITIZENS, AND THAT YOU LOOK OVER THOSE WE REPRESENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH, UH, VISITOR'S COMMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP FOR VISITOR'S COMMENTS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT THAT'S, UH, WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE, EITHER THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA, NOT
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SEEING ANYONE MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS.WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM EASY FIBER.
EVENING, JASON CARNS WITH EASY FIBER.
I'M GOING TO, UH, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY AND WHAT WE'RE, UM, SEEKING TO DO IN OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE.
SO, EASY FI, OH, SORRY, I'M NOT USED TO DRIVING.
SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO A LOT, BUT WE'RE A RELATIVELY NEW COMPANY, BUT WE HAVE A 35 YEAR TRACK RECORD AS AN ORGANIZATION.
WE STARTED OUT AS A TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY IN HOUSTON, CONNECTING MUNICIPALITIES TOGETHER AND THEIR NETWORKS TOGETHER, LIKE MOSTLY FIRE, MEDICAL, EMERGENCY SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OVER TIME, WE GREW AND GREW SUBSTANTIALLY, AND ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, WE STARTED DOING RESIDENTIAL SERVICE.
UM, FAST FORWARD TO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UM, WE BEGAN AN AGGRESSIVE, UH, EXPANSION CAMPAIGN TO, UH, TAKE OUR NETWORK TO PLACES THAT WERE UNDERSERVED BY THEIR EXISTING PROVIDERS.
AND WE THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE VALUE PROPOSITION WHERE WE CAN EARN, UH, FOLKS BUSINESS.
UM, WE'RE ABOUT A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.
UH, LIKE I SAID, OUR, UM, THOUGH THE COMPANY IS FAIRLY NEW IN TERMS OF THE GROWTH, WE STOCKED UP WITH A LOT OF INDUSTRY TALENT THAT IS BOTH LOCAL AND FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, UM, THAT HAVE ALL RELOCATED TO THIS METROPOLITAN AREA.
SO I'M NOT GONNA TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, UM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO AND SPECIFICS TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR VALUE PROPOSITION IS OUR NAME.
WE WANNA BE EASY TO DO BUSINESS WITH.
WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN THE BUSINESS OF THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
AND ONE DAY, MAYBE THE MUNICIPALITY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST KIND OF TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIBER ITSELF.
UH, FIBER, REALLY WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS THIS THE MOST RELIABLE TYPE OF INTERNET CONNECTION THAT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, IT'S FAST, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW FAST IT IS IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
BUT, UM, ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT, AND THEN FIBER IS VERY FLEXIBLE.
IT'S, UM, I ALWAYS USE THE AIR QUOTES FOR SAYING FUTURE PROOF, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
BUT FROM WHAT WE CAN SEE TODAY, IT, IT IS THE, IT IS THE FUTURE.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN DESIGNING, UM, THE NETWORK HERE IN LAKE JACKSON FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
UM, I ENGAGED, UM, THE CITY, UH, MANAGER'S OFFICE, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING BECAUSE THERE WILL BE SOME, UM, THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE SOME BURDEN ON THE ENGINEERING RESOURCES OF THE CITY, AND THAT WILL BE IN A PERMITTING
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AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND INSPECTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HAPPENS.UM, THE, SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GONNA BE IN THE NOTES, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH IT, BUT OUR PRICING SEEMS VERY SIMPLE, TRANSPARENT, EASY TO SEE.
UM, AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE CUZ MOST PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY WANT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS IT? UM, AND, UM, SO JUST GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU.
SO WE STARTED $60 AND GO ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, TWO 50 FOR A 10 GIG BY 10 GIGS SYMMETRICAL SERVICE.
UM, THE NETWORK ITSELF, NOW, THIS IS A BUSY PICTURE, BUT, UM, MOST OF IT WILL BE AERIAL, BUT THERE WILL BE A LARGE PORTION, SIGNIFICANT PORTION, 35% AT LEAST.
OUR INTENTION IS TO USE EXISTING UTILITY RIGHT OF AWAYS.
UM, MOST OF THOSE ARE IN THE REAR, UM, OF PROPERTIES, NOT ALL OF THEM.
UM, WE BASICALLY WILL FOLLOW POWER.
SO HOWEVER THE POWER IS SERVING THE HOME, THAT IS OUR INTENTION OUT OF THE GATE TO DO.
UM, ONCE WE GET OUT THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SOMETIMES IT MAKES SENSE TO, UM, BE IN THE FRONT, UM, IF THERE, IF THERE'S NOT REALLY ACCESS IN THE, IN THE REAR, UM, HOW WE DO CONSTRUCTION ITSELF, UM, ANY WAY.
SO OUR DESIRE IS TO BE AS LEAST DISRUPTIVE TO HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE WAY WE DO THAT IS USING DIRECTIONAL BORING.
UM, IT SHOOTS UNDERGROUND, IT'S NOT TRENCHING IT UP, AND IT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF, UH, IMPACT TO LANDSCAPING, TREES, CANOPY, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO THAT IS OUR DESIRE, UM, TO DO.
THERE ARE PORTIONS WHERE WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET, UM, THE DIRECTIONAL BORES IN.
AND IN THAT CASE, WE USE WHAT'S CALLED A MISSILE.
UM, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN LIKE THE GUYS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEY'VE GOT AIR COMPRESSOR AND IT JUST LIKE PUSHES THE, UM, IT'S CALLED A MISSILE.
IT PUSHES THE MISSILE ALONG IT, IT CAN INSTALL, UH, THE CONDUIT RIGHT THERE.
UM, THE NICE THING ABOUT HAVING CONDUIT IS IT'S NOT DIRECT BURIED.
AND IF YOU EVER NEED TO REPLACE SOMETHING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REDIG UP, UM, UH, PEOPLE'S HOMES, PROPERTY, COMMON AREAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, WE WILL BE, OR ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, WE'LL BE DOING A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UM, ENGAGEMENT, INVOLVEMENT.
UM, REALLY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, ONE OF THE DIS MOST DISRUPTIVE THINGS THAT I THINK ANYBODY CAN DO IS ENTER SOMEONE ELSE'S, UH, PROPERTY.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE MAKE SURE TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WAY AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, WE'LL SEND LETTERS, UH, WE'LL DO DOOR HANGERS, UM, AND, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE COMING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE COME AND TALK, UM, TO YOU ALL TO LET YOU KNOW SO THAT IF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ASK AND WHEN THEY ASK, YOU HAVE A PLACE TO DIRECT THEM FOR QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO THAT YOU ALL HAVE A PLACE TO GET, UH, QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
AND IF THERE'S THOUGHTS THAT WE, UM, HAVEN'T CONSIDERED TO LET US KNOW, UM, WE, UM, SO WE WILL BE VERY COMMUNICATIVE, UM, DURING THE PROCESS.
UM, WE'LL BE VERY RESPONSIVE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS DAMAGE AND THINGS DO HAPPEN.
UM, AND WE HAVE A 24 7 HOTLINE THAT'S NOT A, UM, OKAY.
QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S NOT A CALL CENTER, IT'S A CELL PHONE THAT RINGS ON OUR MANAGER'S PHONE LINE.
AND WE USE IT LIKE WE CALL THE BAT PHONE.
UM, SO THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING DAY OR NIGHT THAT COMES UP, THERE'LL ALWAYS BE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE.
AND THEN, BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A SMALL COMPANY, WE'RE HIGHLY ACCESSIBLE.
UM, THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WITH ME TODAY, DAVID DUCK IS OUR SALES MANAGER WHO WILL LEAD OUR EFFORTS TO, UM, UH, TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UM, OUR SERVICE AND WHY IT'S WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM, IF IT IS GOOD FOR THEM.
UM, AND JONATHAN, UM, KENTRELL, UH, DOES OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS, UM, AND DEVELOPER ACTIVITIES.
SO NOT ONLY DOES HE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS AND APARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO ENGAGES WITH POAS.
UM, JUST THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON IS BEING AS LOCAL AS WE CAN HERE.
SO THAT'LL MEAN, UM, HIRING PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UH, IT'LL MEAN HAVING SOME TYPE OF PRESENCE HERE.
AND OUR DESIRE, AS IT IS, STANDS TODAY, IS TO USE LAKE JACKSON AS, UM, KIND OF A HUB FOR ENGLETON, UM, DOWN IN THE FREEPORT.
AND WE EVENTUALLY BUILD OUT THAT ENTIRE AREA.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TRY AND CHOKE, THERE WE GO, IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PEOPLE, WE'RE NOT A BIG, HUGE COMPANY.
WE LIKE TO, UM, TREAT OUR FOLKS WELL BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE TREATED WELL, THEY'LL TREAT OUR CUSTOMERS WELL.
UM, THAT IS THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE THAT WE THINK IS DIFFERENT
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THAN OTHER PROVIDERS, IS THAT WE CAN BE MORE LOCAL.WE CAN BE MORE ATTENTIVE AND MORE RESPONSIVE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE EVER NEED TO BE, UM, UH, ENGAGED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COMMUNICATE WITH, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS, HOAS, IF THEY ARE SOME WE'LL START WORKING WITH, UH, UH, WATER AND SEWER, UM, GROUP.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED THE POWER COMPANY.
WE'RE ALSO DOING RICHWOOD AND CLTE AND, UH, UH, BEGAN TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.
AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, BEING LOCAL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL DO IS, YOU, YOU WON'T SEE US, UM, I GOTTA USE MINUTE MADE PARK.
LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A EASY FIBER PARK ANYTIME SOON.
WHAT WE WANNA DO IS PUT OUR LOCAL, UM, SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS VERY LOCAL.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THAT MEANS, UH, GIRL SCOUT TROOPS, IT COULD MEAN SWIM TEAMS. THERE'S A YOUTH RUGBY PROGRAM AND TOMBALL, UM, THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN OR GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN, UM, AS LOCAL AS WE CAN GET, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
UM, AND WITH THAT, THAT, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
WE'VE GOT OUR CONTACT INFORMATION ON HERE.
MY, THESE ARE ALL CELL PHONE NUMBERS.
YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US AT ANY TIME, ANY PLACE, AND WE WILL, UM, BE GLAD TO HELP.
AND IF, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, UM, FOR YOU ALL, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? I HAVE A QUESTION.
THIS, THIS MAP ON HERE, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU, ARE, Y'ALL ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT, OR DO YOU JUST COME OUT AND INSTALL LIKE ONE HOUSE AT A TIME? IS THIS JUST LIKE A, DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? DO YOU LAY ALL THE HARDWARE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, AND THEN TRY TO SIGN PEOPLE UP? OR DO YOU SIGN 'EM UP AND LAY IT AT THE SAME TIME? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I SHOULD HAVE SPOKE ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
SO WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A RACE, UM, THAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR SO MANY PROVIDERS IN AN AREA.
THERE'S ALREADY TWO PROVIDERS HERE.
THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ROOM FOR FOUR, UM, IN ANY GIVEN AREA.
SO WE WILL NOT, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WILL NOT SEEK OUT, UM, WHAT I'LL CALL PRE-COMMITMENTS OR PRE-REGISTRATION AND TRY AND GARNER ENOUGH INTEREST TO ACTUALLY BUILD.
WE KNOW OUR PEOPLE ARE GOOD, UM, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO, UM, TO BUILDING IT OUT.
SO THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE STARTING POINT.
UM, THIS IS THE STARTING POINT.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL GO FROM THERE.
WE, UM, UH, WE HA WE HAVE MORE CAPITAL THAN WE HAVE PLACES TO BUILD AT THE MOMENT.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE AND MORE PLACES.
AND LIKE JACKSON'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR, UM, REALLY SINCE DEC LATE DECEMBER OF 21.
UM, AND IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ALL THE WAY TO THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE CLOSE, LIKE VERY CLOSE.
UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED PERMITS, UM, UH, JUST RECENTLY AND LIKE LAST WEEK.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE START COMING BACK IN, WE'RE SECURING MATERIALS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO GO AHEAD AND START CONSTRUCTION.
SO, SO NO, THIS ISN'T A, UM, THIS ISN'T A, UM, A WISHLIST.
THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE STARTING POINT.
UM, AND THERE'S AREAS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED.
I THINK SOME, SOMEONE MAY HAVE MENTIONED THAT TO US.
THE, UM, UH, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF HOUSES HERE THAT AREN'T, THAT AREN'T COVERED, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, I'M NOT FROM, UM, THIS AREA.
AND SO WHEN I, WE DROVE AROUND, UM, ASIDE FROM GETTING AMUSED BY WAYS TELLING US TO TURN THIS WAY AND THAT WAY, IT WAS, UM, BUT THIS, THIS COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE I MOVED HERE FROM AND IT MAYBE KIND OF FEEL LIKE AT HOME.
SO I SPENT MORE TIME HERE THAN, UM, I PROBABLY NORMALLY WOULD, UM, TO EVALUATE A COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT IS SUCH A NICE, WELCOMING COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT DICTATES, LIKE YOU, THIS AREA HERE, YOU DID MOST OF THIS AREA, BUT YOU MISS THIS AREA HERE.
UH, SO IT, IT'S KINDA HARD TO SEE ON THIS.
IT'S, UM, THE BLUE AREA IN THERE WAS WHERE YOU WERE HIGHLIGHTING IS UNDER, I'M SORRY, IT'S AERIAL.
SO THE, THE COLOR SHOWS UP A LITTLE.
UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY AERIAL, DO YOU MEAN LIKE LINES, POWER LINES ABOVE THE GROUND? THE POWER LINES ON THE POWER LINES? IF YOU DON'T MEAN WIRELESS.
LINE FIBER LINES ABOVE THE GROUND COR.
SO WE, WE PLAN TO ATTACH TO THE POWER COMPANIES USE EXISTING GOTCHA.
NOW ATTACHING TO THE POWER COMPANIES POLES IS A PROCESS IN ITSELF.
AND THEY'RE, UM, UM, SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT, UM, EXCITED TO HAVE US ON THEIR POLES MM-HMM.
UM, SO SOMETIMES WE END UP GOING DOWN.
UM, SO WE, WE WANNA GO AERIAL WHERE WE CAN, THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WHY IT'S MUCH LESS, UM, DISRUPTIVE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S QUICKER TO REPAIR AND INSTALL.
THERE'S QUITE FRANKLY, NOT AS MUCH DAMAGES ON THERE.
A LOT OF FOLKS LIKE TO, UM, THINK ABOUT HURRICANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THOSE SURFACES GET RESTORED VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
UM, TYPICALLY, UM, I HAD AN AREA NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT WAS HIT BY A HURRICANE, AND, UM, WHEN ALL THE
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DEBRIS WAS PILED UP, IT WAS PILED UP RIGHT ON TOP OF OUR LINES THAT WE COULDN'T ACCESS.SO WE HAD PLACES THAT WERE OUT FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AT A TIME.
SO THERE'S DOWNSIDES TO BOTH, UM MM-HMM.
BUT, UM, WE WILL NOT BE WIRELESS IN THE SENSE OF LIKE CONNECTING WIRELESSLY TO THE HOME.
THE FIBER WILL GO ALL THE WAY INSIDE A HOME.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE WIRELESS THROUGH WIFI.
AND, UH, IF, UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE QUITE AWARE OF IT, WHEN YOU START GOING AROUND IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS TO START PUTTING UP, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER ABOVE GROUND OR BELOW GROUND IS, UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY WON'T LET CENTER POINT IN THEIR BACKYARD.
SO, UM, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE GOING ABOVE GROUND AND STUFF, ARE Y'ALL USING, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLY LARGE, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR IS IT GOING UP POLES OR, OR WHAT? SO TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY IN REAR, UM, RIGHT.
APPLICATIONS, IT'S, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY CLIMBING OR WITH LADDERS.
UM, THAT'S NOT, THERE'S JUST NOT ROOM NO LIFTS TO PUT ANY, ANYTHING BACK IN ANYONE'S YARD.
UM, WHEN IT'S ON THE STREET SIDE, WE USE, OR YOU CAN TRADITIONAL BUCKET TRUCKS.
UM, THESE, THESE ARE, SO WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO ATTACH TO, I'LL CALL LIKE HIGH TENSION TRANSMISSION POLES.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE SERVICE POLES THAT YOU SEE IN COMMUNITIES TODAY, LIKE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THEN SPEAKING OF POLES, YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON WHEN IT'S OVERHEAD.
THE ONLY THING YOU'RE PLANNING ON INSTALLING IS, UH, WIRING IN BOXES.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE PUTTING ANY ADDITIONAL POLES IN.
CORRECT? WELL, I, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
I'VE NEVER PUT IN A SINGLE POLE.
SO I'VE NEVER HAD TO MAINTAIN ONE AND NEVER IS A BIG WORD.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS OR DESIRES TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IS THERE GONNA BE A POLL? I SURE AS HECK? HOPE NOT.
UM, WELL, THE, THE REASON I'M BRINGING OUT IS CUZ UH, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY IN, IN HOUSTON NEWS, UH, CENTERPOINT'S BEEN PUTTING IN NEW POWER LINES IN, UH, A SECTION OF DOWNTOWN AREA AND MM-HMM.
SO JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT, UH, THAT'S NOT IN THE PLAN.
WE, WE, WE, WE HAVE NO, UM, CURRENT CAPACITY OR PLANS TO ADD CAPACITY TO SET OR MAINTAIN OUR OWN POLES.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BALLGAME THAT WE, AND ANOTHER THING, WELL, TWO THINGS IS ONCE YOU GET STARTED, WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON GETTING STARTED AND WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON COMPLETION? SO THIS IS A LARGE PROJECT, RIGHT? UM, THE, UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERMITS YET, UM, THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UM, BUT, UH, I WOULD TAKE IT, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE A GOOD ONE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GET SURPRISED VERY OFTEN IN, IN THESE SESSIONS.
BUT, UM, THE, UM, BUT ONCE IT STARTS, UM, UH, LEMME PUT IT LIKE THIS.
TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT 30, UM, I'M SORRY, IT'S ABOUT 90 DAYS FROM START TO FINISH FOR ABOUT FOUR TO 5,000 HOMES IN THIS AREA.
IT WILL PROBABLY BE, UM, THE SAME 90 DAYS, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY STRETCH IT OUT TO LIKE 120 BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH MORE.
THERE'S JUST CUZ OF THE VOLUME, RIGHT? THERE'S MORE CHANCES THAT WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO FOLKS THAT, UM, AREN'T EXCITED ABOUT LETTING A RIGHT UTILITY COMPANY IN THEIR BACKYARD, WHICH THOSE WILL TAKE LONGER.
NOW, AN IMPORTANT NOTE IS THE TIME THAT WE'RE OWNED A PROPERTY IS NOT 90 DAYS.
IT'S TYPICALLY GONNA BE A DAY WHEN WE'RE DOING THE DIGGING AND PUTTING IN THE PIPE.
THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER PORTION OF A DAY WHERE WE COME BACK AND PULL THE FIBER, AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER PORTION OF A DAY WHERE IT'S SPLICED.
SO TYPICALLY IN SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, UM, IT YOU'RE NO MORE THAN A FULL DAY.
UM, THE, THESE DRILLS CAN DO ANYWHERE BETWEEN, DEPENDING ON THE GROUND AND HOW MUCH ACCESS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN DO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND MAYBE A THOUSAND FEET IN A DAY.
UM, SO YOU START ADDING UP THE FOOTAGE, UM, YOU REALIZE THAT WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY 30 TO 40 DRILLS, UM, IS OUR DESIRE, BUT WE'LL NEED WORK FROM, UH, MR. MUNO AND HIS STAFF TO TELL US HOW MUCH THEY CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE.
AND THAT, AND YOU'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL RESOURCE STRAINS THAT NOBODY WAS PLANTED ON THIS WHEN YOU DID YOUR BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE'LL WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU SET UP.
SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA BE USING SUBCONTRACTORS.
SO ARE THEY GONNA BE, ARE ALL THEIR VEHICLES GONNA BE IDENTIFIED SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THAT THAT TRUCK PARKED UP THERE IS Y'ALL? YES, SIR.
IT'LL HAVE OUR, UM, IT'LL HAVE OUR SIGNAGE ON IT.
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UM, WE'LL, THEY'LL HAVE OUR MATERIALS WITH THEM, OUR FOLKS WILL BE ON SITE AS WELL.UM, AND THEY'LL ALL BE WEARING, UM, PRETTY FANCY ORANGE AND YELLOW LOOKING VESTS THAT IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE.
UM, IF THEY'RE IN A HARD HAT AREA, THEY'LL BE IDENTIFIABLE.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST QUESTION IS, IS BECAUSE I RAN INTO THIS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE UNDERGROUND TORPEDOES AND DEALS MM-HMM.
AND MY PROBLEM WAS, WAS I HAD TO BE THE ONE THAT CALLED CENTERPOINT TO GO PUT IN EMERGENCY, UH, POWER.
AND THEN IT WAS MY PROBLEM WITH, I HAD TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO REPAIR THE POWER LINE.
AND THEN I SENT THE BILL TO THEM AND THEY PAID IT.
WHAT I'M HOPING IS, IS THAT OUR CITIZENS, IF SOMETHING TERRIBLE LIKE THAT HAPPENS, THEY HAVE A PHONE NUMBER THAT THEY CALL THAT IS ONE OF YOU GUYS.
AND YOU GUYS SAY, I'VE GOT THIS MM-HMM.
THERE, THERE'S A CAVEAT TO THIS IS THAT IF, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCESS INSIDE THE HOME, WE WILL HAVE TO, I UNDERSTAND, WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER, UM, GET THEM ACCESS.
BUT WE, WE WORK VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, THE POWER COMPANIES AS WELL AS GAS, WATER, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, CAUSE WE WILL, WE WILL HIT STUFF.
IT, IT, IT, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF OUR PROJECT IS REPAIRING DAMAGES IF, IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.
UM, SO WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO HIT ANYTHING.
THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WORKING FOR IN THIS PHASE OF A PROJECT IS WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY COMING TO THE HOME.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT, WHAT I'LL CALL THE DROP OR THE SERVICE LINE FROM THE MAIN UTILITY LINE COMING TO THE HOME, WHETHER IT'S WATER, SEWER, RIGHT.
UM, SO TYPICALLY THAT DOESN'T GET HIT.
NOW WHAT'S GONNA GET HIT IS ELECTRIC FENCES, LANDSCAPE LIGHTING, THE, LIKE, NO ONE, NOT AS SOON AS THEY KNOW ONE, VERY FEW PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LETTER IS, UM, WHEN YOU, IF IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AND AFTER WE'RE DONE, WE ASK THAT YOU RUN YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOOD.
IF, IF THERE'S A LEAK, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL GO OUT AND REPAIR IT.
I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF THE MIRROR.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA BE UP FRONT.
WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE LIKE YOU COME IN AND GIVE US A SPEECH, A SERMON LIKE THIS, AND THEN THEY'LL COME IN AND THEY'LL GET THE COUNCIL BLESSINGS.
AND, UH, WE DON'T SEE 'EM ANYMORE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET HOLD TO 'EM.
HOW CAN YOU REASSURE THE COUNCIL OR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF ENCHANTMENT THAT, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE PEOPLE WAS IN THE PAST.
SO I I JUST, ANY MUNICIPALITY THAT YOU'VE, THAT I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, YOU WELCOME TO CALL 'EM.
THE OTHER THING IS, THIS IS MY, WITH THESE NUMBERS YOU SAW UP THERE, THOSE ARE CELL PHONE NUMBERS.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT, WELL WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOCAL? SO, SO WE'RE HOUSTON AND HOUSTON IS NOT LOCAL.
AS SOON AS I SAID IT, I REALIZE.
UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE A LOCAL PRESENCE HERE AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU MEAN A LOCAL PRESENCE? DRIVING HERE EVERY DAY AND THEN LEAVING AT FIVE? NO, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO, GOING BACK TO HOUSTON, THAT'S A LOCAL PRESIDENT THAT'S NOT NO, NO, NO.
SO, SO THIS, THIS IS FAR ENOUGH.
I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DEFENSIVE ANYTHING, BUT I MEAN, IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST TO US THAT PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND THEY GIVE US THIS BIG SPILL AND WE DON'T SEE THEM OR HEAR FROM THEM.
AND, AND WE TRY AND THE CITY MANAGER TRY TO CONTACT THEM, COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND WE CAN'T GET HOLD OF YOU OR ANYBODY.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE NO ONE HAS BUILT THIS AREA YET.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, UM, PEOPLE IN SIMILAR POSITIONS HAVE LEFT THIS IMPRESSION.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE AS LOCAL AS WE CAN BE.
AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT LOGO, LIKE I'M EXTREMELY ACCESSIBLE.
UM, AND OUR COMPANY IS ACCESSIBLE.
WE, WE'RE, WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE OTHER ONES WENT, BUT WE'VE DESIGNED THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM.
WE'RE ABOUT TO START DESIGNING THE NEXT PHASE.
WE'VE GOT OUR PERMITS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED.
WE'VE ORDERED MATERIALS, UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAGE AND HAVE A PRESENCE.
UM, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE THIS COMMUNITY STANDALONE FROM THE AIRPORT IN HOUSTON, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHERE OUR OFFICE IS.
SO ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR BILLING HERE? ARE YOU JUST GONNA
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COME IN AND LEAVE EVERY DAY OR SO? SO WE HAVE NOT SIGNED A LEASE YET.UM, BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PHYSICAL PRESENCE WHERE WE CAN DISPATCH IN AND OUT OF, UM, THAT'S BASED HERE.
IT'S, IT'S CAN CAN YOU GIVE THE, THE CITY MANAGER, UM, A LIST OF LOCAL OR JUST ANY MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DONE WORK IN MM-HMM.
CAN WE TAKE THAT JUST, JUST SO I DON'T LOSE IT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE GOING, WELL, WE, WELL, UM, SO I CAN CLARIFY.
WE DID CHECK WITH THE CITY OF PARA LAND ON THERE.
THEY'RE INSTALLING SUGARLAND NOW.
WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS THIS, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR APPROVAL.
UM, ALL AND DURING OUR PERMITING PROCESS, REALLY, IT'S IN THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE AND WITH THE ASSISTANT OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUILD THE BUILDING, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ON THE INSPECTIONS.
REALLY WHAT WE'RE WATCHING FOR IS, IS THAT THEY STAY WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE EASEMENTS.
UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IN GIVING THEM GUIDANCE OF OTHER THAN OUR OWN LINES.
IT'S HARD TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, OTHER UTILITY LINES WHERE COMCAST IS OR CENTER POINT, UH, GAS, UH, THAT INFORMATION TO OURSELVES IS SOMETIMES SKETCHY.
BUT I MEAN, I DO, I DO STILL THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD THOUGH JUST TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON WHO WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE KNOW WHO'S HERE OKAY.
AND HOW THEY'VE DEALT WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHETHER IT'S THIS COMPANY OR NO OFFENSE TO Y'ALL, WHETHER IT'S THIS COMPANY OR COMPANY X, IF FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO HOLD OF ANY TYPE OF RAIN.
SO HE COULD BE WASTING THIS TIME WITH HIS SPIEL AND THEN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS.
AND WE CAN'T EVEN, WE HAVE TO ISSUE THE PERMITS.
WE HAVE TO JUST, WE HAVE TO ISSUE THE PERMITS.
REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WATCH FOR IS THAT THEY, AND IN THE END WE REALLY TRY TO WATCH THAT THEY STAY AWAY FROM CITY MUNICIPAL LINES, THE WATER AND SEWER.
UM, WHAT STOPPED ANY OTHER COMPANY FROM DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING? WHY HAS ANYBODY ELSE BEEN IT? YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.
HAVE YOU GOT WHAT? AT AND T AND COMCAST HERE? YEAH.
SO I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHY WE DON'T BUILD IN SOME OTHER AREAS.
UM, THERE'S, UM, TYPICALLY IT'S NOT THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT, UM, CAN MAKE OR BREAK US, BUT IF THERE'S NOT A DESIRE, UM, TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OPTION AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS, UM, THEN WE WILL, WE WON'T GO THERE.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NOT ASKING, YOU KNOW, TO A COUPLE THINGS.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A A TRUE, I MEAN, THERE IS AN APPROVAL PROCESS, BUT IT'S A VERY, LIKE, YOU FOLLOW THESE RULES AND YOU GET TO USE THE UTILITY RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY PROVIDER UTILITY FRIENDLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, VERY FRIENDLY.
UM, THE, UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE, WE'RE THE ONES COMING IN AND HAVING TO EARN THAT BUSINESS EVERY DAY.
AND WE DO IT VIA LOCAL ENGAGEMENT AND EARNING PEOPLE'S TRUST.
WE ARE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH AT AND T OR COMCAST IS BRANDS, BUT WE, THEY HAVE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY'RE SPENDING ON MARKETING.
WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING OUR MARKETING, UH, IN PEOPLE AND AS LOCAL AS WE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE WILL WIN.
UM, IT'S, UM, SO WE HAVE TO EARN THE BUSINESS.
IF WE COME IN HERE AND RUN, LIKE WE'RE DISRUPTIVE, WE WILL NOT MAKE A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.
SO IT BEHOOVES US AND IS IN OUR INTEREST TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE HOMEOWNER AND PROPERTY OWNER, UM, HAPPY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY THAT IS UPSET.
UM, BUT GENERALLY WE ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
I MEAN, WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S KIND OF JOKE CAUSE LIKE WHEN IT MOVES TO TEXAS, YOU LEARN EVERYBODY HAS A, A SIX FOOT FENCE AND A PISTOL.
LIKE, IT'S, IT'S VERY, UM, UM, THEY'RE VERY OPEN ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, WHICH IS NICE CAUSE WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE'RE STANDING.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO, UM, BE DISRUPTIVE IN ANYONE'S PROPERTY.
AND, UM, WE HAVE TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING THE INVESTMENT, YOUR COMPANY'S MAKING AN INVESTMENT TO BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND, UH, SO THAT YOU'RE HOPEFULLY THAT YOU'LL DO A VERY GOOD JOB AT IT SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED IN YOUR PRODUCT ONCE IT'S THERE.
AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE SERVICE SIDE OF IT'S BRANDED THE SAME, UNDER THE SAME COMPANY.
SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU, YOU'RE NOT BUILDING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT A VESTED INTEREST IN DOING IT, THE INSTALLATION SIDE.
BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE MAD, THEN THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BUY YOUR, THE SERVICE SIDE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ULTIMATELY SELL.
SO YOU'RE IN FOR THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING.
THERE IS, THERE IS NO PARENT COMPANY OR SISTER.
I MEAN, SELL IT TO ACME AND LET IT'S US DO THE SERVICE SIDE.
YOU CARRY ENOUGH INSURANCE THAT
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IF YOU DO DAMAGE, SOMEBODY'S, UH, A LOT OF HOMES HERE HAVE THE POWER UNDERGROUND MM-HMM.AND, UH, IF YOU DAMAGE THE POWER LINE, CURRENTLY, THE HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THEIR MAIN TRANSFORMER BOX, WHICH IS ON THE GROUND MM-HMM.
AFTER THAT, IT'S THE CUSTOMER, THE HOMEOWNERS.
SO YOU CARRY ENOUGH INSURANCE THAT IF YOU DO SUCH DAMAGE OR THE CITY GAS LINES, WATER LINES, UH, THAT YOU CAN COVER ALL THE DAMAGE.
SO THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT NUMBERS ARE, UM, AS A, AS A, I STAND HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE ARE, ARE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO COVER.
WE'RE, WE MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING CONSTRUCTION IN THIS AREA, UM, FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND IN MY CAREER ABOUT 20 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY NEVER HAD TO USE INSURANCE BEFORE BECAUSE, UM, TYPICALLY WE'RE IN, UM, PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY AND THE, I DON'T WANNA, CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS, IT IS ALWAYS A BIG DEAL WHEN IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE ENGAGING AN INSURANCE COMPANY, THAT'S JUST NOT A COMMON PRACTICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE DIGGING AROUND GAS LINES CENTER 0.1 GAS LINES.
IT'S ONE GAS LINE HIT, YOU KNOW, CAN HAVE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES.
IT IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN TO US IS HAVING PEOPLE BE EVACUATED BECAUSE OF A GAS LEAK.
AND IT WILL BE VERY TOUGH FOR US TO EARN BUSINESS AFTER THAT.
SO WE, UM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR FOLKS IN DANGER.
UM, WE HAVE FAMILIES AND THINGS TOO.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AND THIS IS WHERE MEMBERS OR COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM, EITHER CONSENT OR AGENDA.
IS THERE, UH, ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO DECLARE A CONFLICT AT THIS TIME?
[CONSENT AGENDA]
NOT HEARING ANY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM ONE IS APPROVED MINUTES OF APRIL 17TH, 2023.
ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES.
UH, KEEP LAKE JACKSON BEAUTIFUL MINUTES.
UH, WE HAVE ITEM THREE IS APPROVED A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH, UH, MID TECH OIL FOR UNLEADED FUEL, DIESEL, AND OIL WITH AN UNLEADED FUEL AND DIESEL MARKUP OF 0.01 CENTS.
UH, FOR SERVICES FOR THE SERVICE CENTER AND MARKUP OF, UH, 1 1 0 0 4, THE WILDERNESS GOLF COURSE AND OIL PRICED FOR PER GALLON.
UH, ITEM FOUR IS APPROVED ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION TO HOUSTON POLY BAGS FOR BLACK REFUSE BAGS AT A CONTINUED UNIT PRICE OF 16 SINCE 16.24 CENTS.
UH, AND ALSO ITEM FIVE IS A POINT.
UH, REAGAN, BRIER AND PARIS PONCE, I GUESS, UH, TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.
MOVE THAT TO ITEM REGULAR AGENDA.
WE'LL MOVE, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON REMAINING ITEMS. MOVE FOR ACCRUAL ITEMS. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2, 4, AND FIVE.
SECOND AND A SECOND FROM SETH.
[3. Approve a one-year contract extension to Midtex Oil for unleaded fuel, diesel and oil with an unleaded fuel and diesel markup of 0.0116 for the Service Center and markup of 0.1100 for The Wilderness Golf Course and oil priced per gallon]
AGENDA, WE'LL DO ITEM THREE, WHICH IS, UH, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WAS APPROVED, THE ONE YEAR CONTRACT.SO WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS THE WILDERNESS GOLF COURSE AND OIL PRICE PER GALLON.
SO WHAT ARE WE APPROVING? WHAT'S THE PRICE OF THE OIL? NO, UH, NO, WE'RE, WE'RE APPROVING THE, THE MARKUP, THE 11, SO WE PURCHASE ON THE MARKET.
SO THE MARKUP IS FOR NATURAL FOR THE UNLEADED, FUEL AND DIESEL, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND ALSO FOR OIL AND THE MARKUP IS FOUR L AND ALSO, AND IT'S FOR, UM, IT'S FOR A SPECIAL AGRICULTURAL DIESEL.
IT'S A RED, YEAH, A RED DIESEL.
I'M REALLY, YEAH, IT'S, I'M WRITTEN IT CLOSELY TOO.
AND THE CLOSER I READ IT, THE WORSE IT GETS.
IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HIS NU WILL BE A NUMBER THERE.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THAT ITEM.
MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR CONSENT ITEM AGENDA NUMBER THREE.
AND, UH, NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. BROTUS.
[1. Discuss request to relocate public parking on Circle Way with cross access agreement for retail development - Jesse Carroll]
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REGULAR AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSS REQUEST RELOCATE PARK PUBLIC PARKING AT, UH, CIRCLE WAY WITH CROSS ESSEX ACCESS AGREEMENT FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
AND JESSE, AND THIS IS, UH, DISCUSSION.
SO HE'S GONNA TELL US WHAT HE'S THINKING ABOUT.
TELL US WHAT YOU'RE, I'M THINKING ABOUT AND, UH, HOPEFULLY GO PRETTY QUICK.
I'M HOPING Y'ALL READ THE PRE-READ.
SO WE BOUGHT, RECENTLY BOUGHT THE LOT L AT THE HEV, UH, TOWN CENTER.
IS IT THIS BUTTON? SO, QUICK INTRODUCTION.
RETAIL'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1996.
IT WAS FOUNDED IN LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.
SO THIS IS A LOCAL, LOCAL COMPANY HERE, RIGHT? SO, UM, ONE OF THE PLACES WE HAVE DONE WORK ON IS THE WILDERNESS GOLF COURSE.
WE ACTUALLY BUILT THAT, UH, THE BUILDING THERE.
IF YOU LOOK OVER, WHAT WE MAINLY DO IS CONSTRUCTION, BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDOUTS IN 48 STATES ACROSS THE NATION.
THERE'S A LIST OF OUR CUSTOMERS RIGHT ON THE SIDE.
WE'VE DONE BATH AND BODY WORKS, VICTORIA'S SECRETS, UH, ET SEA, UH, EVERY EVE, TRACTOR SUPPLIES, REALLY A LOT OF TRACTOR SUPPLIES LATELY.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A IS CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE'VE DONE SOME GROUND UP CONSTRUCTION AT IN THE PAST.
ALSO, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS ACTUALLY START A DEVELOPMENT TO DO SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN HEB.
UM, WE REALLY LIKE TO DO SOMETHING FANCY THERE, SOMETHING REALLY NICE, SOMETHING VERY URBAN, CONTEMPORARY LOOK TO, TO TRY TO HELP, UH, BRING FOLKS TO OUR CITY AND KIND OF BROADEN THAT, THAT, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING A PARK OVER THERE WITH THE TEXAS DI CREDIT UNION TO HELP KIND OF IRATE FOLKS OVER THERE.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT BUILDING A TWO-STORY MULTI-USE BUILDING.
BOTTOM WOULD BE RETAIL TOP FLOOR WOULD BE OFFICES.
AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO ATTEMPT TO DO IS ALSO PUT LIKE A TWO-STORY, UM, RESTAURANT THERE THAT HAS A PATIO TOP FOR FOLKS TO GO OUT AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT DINNER.
THE CHALLENGE I WE RUN INTO IS PARKING.
SO, UM, WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE, BUT IN THE END, IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION ONE, IS THERE, IS THIS A LASER RIGHT HERE? OPTION ONE, THERE'S NO PARKING DOWN HERE AND THERE'S A DELTA IF WE WOULD, TO COME IN WITH A RESTAURANT, IF WE WOULD SAY A RESTAURANT'S ROUGHLY 200, 250 PEOPLE OCCU TO OCCUPY IT.
UM, I KNOW I MIGHT HAVE SOME OF MY RATIOS WRONG ON THAT, BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS IF WE COULD DEVELOP THE PUBLIC PARKING DOWN HERE AND THAT WOULD GET US REALLY CLOSE TO NOT HAVING A DELTA.
NOW GRANTED, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BASEBALL THAT'S DONE THERE AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM BASEBALL.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO RELOCATE PARKING BECAUSE THEN IT'S CENTRALIZED SOME MORE PARKING FOR THE PARKS.
ONE, THE, UH, ONE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DEVELOP.
ALSO THE OTHER PARKS, THE BASEBALL PARKS NEXT TO IT.
AND IF WE EVER GET INTO THE OTHER FUTURE PARKS DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THE CITY HAS A VISION GONNA HELP THAT AREA ALSO.
MURPHY, CAN YOU PULL UP THIS LIGHT? THE NEXT SLIDE IS ACTUALLY BIGGER THAT, THAT'LL WORK FOR YOU.
I FIGURE WE'LL END UP TALKING OFF THIS LIGHT ANYWAYS CUZ IT'S, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SEE VERSUS, UH, THE OTHER ONE.
SO THIS IS THE LOT L THAT WAS PURCHASED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING, AND THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RELOCATING PARKING.
UM, YOU ALREADY HAVE PARKING RIGHT HERE.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS REMAKE THAT INTO GREEN SPACE, RELOCATE THE BACKSTOPS THAT ARE OVER HERE AND PUT IT, PUT IT THERE.
AND THEN EVEN ALONG THESE LINES, I HAVE IN BLUE.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SOME PARKING RIGHT HERE.
ACTUALLY DO SOME PARKING AROUND THE EDGES TOO TO GIVE YOU MORE PARKING FOR LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS DEVELOP THAT AND THEN JUST SHARE IN THE PARKING SPACE AND FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, USE THE PARKING SPACE NUMBERS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT.
THE PARKING WILL ALWAYS BE PUBLIC PARKING.
IT WON'T BE MANAGED BY, UH, ELITE, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE THE CITIES.
ALL WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS RELOCATE PARKING AND UH, DEVELOP IT.
THE ONE THING BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE HANDLE THE WATER FLOW, RIGHT? SO ONE, WHAT I WAS ASKING THE COUNCIL TODAY WAS WOULD YOU CONSIDER US DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF YOU WOULD, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT AND DO SOME STUDIES ON DETENTION, WATER DETENTION.
I DON'T, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEND CAPITAL ON SOMETHING IF IT'S GONNA BE, DEPENDING
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ON WHAT THE COUNCIL SAID.SETH MODEST, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HE LOOKING AT? THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS GONNA BE THE CREDIT UNION AND W AND THEN, UH, HOME TWO.
WHERE IS IT GONNA COME IN AT? UM, HOME TWO IS RIGHT THERE.
IT IS IN THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE.
THE PROPOSED PARK IS HERE AND THE CREDIT UNION IS RIGHT HERE.
WE ARE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, IF THE PARK IS REALIZED, WE WOULD ADD PARKING HERE WHERE THE OLD FIRE STATION USED TO BE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE USED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YARD, SEVERAL YEARS AS A LAY DOWN YARD FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR DOWNTOWN.
IT'S NOT BEING, IT'S CLEANED NOW, BUT IT WAS THE OLD FIRE STATION.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING 48 TO 49 PARKING SPACES HERE.
AND SINCE SUBMITTING THAT TO THE COUNTY FOR CDBG, UH, GRANT, UM, WHEN MR. CAROL SPOKE WITH US, I, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY A NO CAN, UH, DUE OF LOSING PARKWAY.
UH, BUT THEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF REPURPOSING OR RELOCATING THE PARKING WHERE THERE WAS NO NET LOSS OF PARK.
IT SAID IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, BUT ONLY COUNSEL COULD MAKE YOU KNOW, THAT DECISION IF THEY WANTED TO PURSUE THAT.
AND PROBABLY GET INPUT FROM THE PARKS BOARD, UH, AS WELL.
AND THEN, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO OVERCOME THE NEXT HURDLE IS SHARING THAT PARKING AND ALLOWING IT TO SERVE AS A CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT AND COUNT TOWARDS HIS PARKING REQUIREMENT.
THERE IS A PROVISION, UH, THE PARKING ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATE PARKING PLAN.
UM, THAT'S NOT BEEN FULLY EXPLORED, YOU KNOW, YET IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED KIND OF A BLENDED RATE.
SO THAT POSSIBILITY EXISTS AS WELL WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND ACCEPT AN ALTERNATE PLAN THAT MAY NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING.
UH, BUT, UH, THE DEVELOPER STILL FELT THAT, OKAY, I'M STILL SHORT OF PARKING.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER DISCUSSION IS EITHER MAKING A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT OF COURSE, UM, OR LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT, UH, THIS OPTION.
SO AGAIN, THE SWAP THOUGH IS EXPLAINING FOR THE FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE OF WHAT THE SWAP WAS YOU TALKING.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SPACES, WE DIDN'T REALLY GET INTO SPACES.
WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT SQUARE, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT.
AND SO WE THAT'S A BLACKTOP AREA.
THE BLACKTOP AREA THAT'S FROM THE FIELD.
SO THE THOUGHT WAS IS THAT YOU COULD REMOVE THAT, RESTORE IT TO GREEN SPACE, PUT BACKSTOPS ON THERE, AND THEN PUT THE PARKING, THE SAME AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND PARKING HERE, IT WOULD SHIFT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE.
THE CHALLENGE IS, IS NOW WE HAVE NEW DRAINAGE STANDARD CHANGE, UH, STANDARDS.
YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RETAINAGE BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED IS INTERNALLY, IT'S NOT BEEN FOR ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
YOU KNOW, HERE WE PROBABLY WILL BE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPERVIOUS PARKING IN THIS SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE OR IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT WE, WE'LL TRY TO EXPLORE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.
UM, BUT IT WAS MORE OF JUST KIND OF AN SAY PERVIOUS, I'M SORRY, PURVI PUR PERVIOUS, UH, UH, BUT HERE IT WAS MORE OF LOOKING AT JUST FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BLACKTOP OR SURFACE FOR SURFACE.
SHOULDN'T THAT BE OFFSETTING THOUGH, IF YOU'RE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT SHOULD NOT CHANGE.
IT SHOULD BE, BUT I THINK THE DRAINAGE STANDARDS HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW SOUTH, I THINK THIS OFFICE WILL LOOK AT THAT TODAY.
THIS ONE DRAINS DOWN THIS THIS DITCH WHERE THIS GOES THIS WAY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK SAL HAS SAID THAT SOMEWHERE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT AND PROVIDE A, DO A STUDY, WRITE A SOLUTION TO THAT.
AND SO WHEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH MR. CARROLL SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY HAVE TO START TALKING TO COUNSEL FIRST.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE PARKS BOARD UNLESS COUNSEL WAS EVEN IN ARRESTED IN THIS CONCEPT OF DISCUSS.
I THINK THEY PRESENTED THAT TO THE PAR, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.
NO MEETINGS AGO IN, UH, IF I RECALL, THEY WERE PRETTY RECEPTIVE EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING SITUATION, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
BECAUSE IF THERE'S ALL SAME RESTAURANT AND NOT OFFICE SPACE WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT.
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AND SO IF HE COULD COME SAY WE WERE NOT PUTTING ANY OFFICES, THEN HE WOULD MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.SO CORRECT ME IF I'M MISTAKEN ON THAT.
THE, THE, THE RESTAURANT REQUIREMENT INCREASED HIS PARKING.
DRAMATICALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE USED OFFICES THEN WOULD NOT, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE PARKING SPOT.
SO GENTLEMEN WAS BEING UPFRONT WITH IT THAT HE'S GONNA BE PUTTING RESTAURANTS AND, AND OFFICES AND THAT'S WHAT CREATED THE PROBLEM FOR THE PARKING.
AND THEN ON TOP OF IT, TOMORROW THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MEETING WITH WALMART AND THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATE PARKING PLAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REVISE THE PARKING ORDINANCES EIGHT YEARS AGO, EIGHT, 10 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, NOW THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT DID WE SWING TOO MUCH IN ONE WAY? UM, AND BUT IT GOES AGAIN, IT ALLOWS FOR THAT ULTRA PROVISION.
IF, UH, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEELS LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, AND THE COMPANY HAS DATA, OTHERWISE THEY COULD SHOW US THAT YOU DON'T NEED THAT MANY PARKING.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE DIFFICULT FOR, UH, A DEVELOPER WHO HAS NOT BUILT 20 OF THESE, WHERE WALMART PROBABLY HAS MORE DATA ACROSS THE NATION.
IT SHOWS WHAT THEY NEED IN PARKING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, WE TARGETED THAT AND TARGETED THAT AS WELL WHEN WE ADDED THOSE.
SO THE BIGGER COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, THEY HISTORY, THEY HAVE A BIGGER HISTORY, HISTORY, HISTORICAL DATA, SAME TENANTS.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TENANTS I'M GONNA HAVE.
SO TOMORROW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE LOOKING AT PROBABLY THE ALTERNATE POSSIBILITY BECAUSE, UH, WALMART WANTS TO ADD CURBSIDE SERVICE AND TAKE AWAY PARKING, UH, AND EXPAND.
AND SO THEY'LL BE CONSIDERING THAT I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SUMMING THIS IN A GOOD WAY, BUT I THINK THE OVERALL FEELING THAT I'M GETTING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT CONCRETE WHEN THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT THE, LET'S TRY TO PUT THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT AMOUNT.
WE JUST, UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE WAY PEOPLE SHOP HAS CHANGED.
WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT COMPLEXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE WALMARTS AND TARGETS AND STUFF IS THAT WE USED TO, WE, WE DID.
I MEAN, A LOT OF OUR PARKING DESIGNS HAVE BEEN ON THE DAYS WHENEVER PEOPLE FILL UP PARKING LOTS AT MALLS TO GO CHRISTMAS SHOPPING.
WELL, THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S LESS AND LESS THE MEN FOR PHYSICAL, UH, PARKING SPACES.
UH, BUT AT, AT BIG BOXES LIKE THAT, YOU CAN SAY AGAIN, THEY HAVE THE HISTORY.
THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, OUR VOLUME'S GONNA BE THIS MUCH AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PLAN FOR.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, YOU'VE DEVELOPED, SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DEVELOPED, UH, ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
SO THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST, FIRST TIME.
SO, AND AGAIN, SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF TENANTS YOU'RE THINKING OF.
BUT I WAS IN A BIG, I WAS IN A BIG SUPPORT AND STILL AM A BIG SUPPORT OF, OF LOOKING AT WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOUR TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE, AND UH, TALKING ABOUT THE BLEND AND SEE IF WE CAN, IF THERE IS AN ADJUSTMENT WE CAN MAKE ON THE BLEND.
UH, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE MORE GROUND TO BE COVERED WITH CONCRETE.
BUT, UH, I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
YOU, YOU'RE, I THINK BY THE WAY, YOU'RE MAKING A PRESENTATION, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BLEND PROBABLY WON'T WORK FOR YOU.
ITS REALLY TIGHT ON THE, IF YOU PUT A NICE SIZE RESTAURANT ON THERE, SO IF YOU'RE PUTTING A RESTAURANT THAT HOSTS 200, 250 PEOPLE, THEN I THINK THE DELTA'S AROUND 38 PARKING SPACES OR SO.
AND, AND I KNOW A LOT OF US, I KNOW YOU THINK ABOUT CERTAIN RESTAURANTS WE GO DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW, IT'S SO HARD TO FIND, FIND A PLACE TO PARK AND IT GETS FRUSTRATING.
I, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THAT WAY HERE, BUT I ALSO THINK HAVING PARKING LOCATED THERE WAS AL ALSO COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CONCERTS YOU MIGHT DO IN YOUR FUTURE PARK AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE DOWNTOWN OF LAKE JACKSON ARE ABLE TO PARK HERE AND HERE AND WALK OVER.
WELL, THE THING IS, I MEAN, MODESTO SAID WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS SPOT HERE AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE IS ALSO A PLAN TO PUT ADDITIONAL PARKING OVER HERE MM-HMM.
AND SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, IS THAT AGAIN, TRYING TO LIMIT LESS HARD SURFACE IS IF THIS ADDITIONAL COULD BE EXPANDED.
BUT SEE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO YOUR PROPERTY HERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY CHALLENGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
BUT IT IS ATTACHED BY POC I GUESS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HELP YOU MUCH.
IF WE, IF WE SAY OKAY, IF WE BUILD, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS ONE BASICALLY TO MEET THE COMMITMENT TO THE CREDIT UNION.
WE WERE GONNA BUILD THIS ONE, UH, EVENTUALLY.
IS THAT, COULD THAT BE, YOU KNOW, OFFSITE PARKING TO MEET YOUR HELP, MEET YOUR REQUIREMENT? AND THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT IS, IS THAT IT'S, IT'S SEPARATED.
IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO YOUR PROPERTY, NOT ATTACHED CORRECT BEAR.
WHAT WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS, IS THAT HE WOULD BUILD THIS WELL I KNOW, I AGREE.
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WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO WALK, WE COULD WALKAND, AND, AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I ALSO WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING SOME MORE OF THE GRAVEL PARKING HAVE ALONG THE WAY HERE TOO, TO PUT WHAT? SO IF YOU LOOK, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE WE HAVE ON STREET PARK.
YOU CAN JUST PULL OFF AND PULL IN THERE.
AND THAT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT HERE.
I WAS GONNA PUT SOME MORE BACK OVER THIS WAY CUZ I KNOW I'VE BEEN OVER THERE WITH MY LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, THE BASEBALL PRACTICE, SO THEY HAVE PARKING OVER HERE VERSUS HAVING TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
BUT AGAIN, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING IS TO DO THE FLIP IS THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A HEART LOT OF HEARTBURN WITH THAT EITHER.
IN OTHER WORDS, TURN THIS INTO GREEN SPACE AND MOVE THAT PARKING OVER HERE.
AND UH, CUZ THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T DO.
THE CITY COULDN'T, COULDN'T DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE YOUR CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
BUT YOU KNOW, SAL, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU SAL, IS THOSE TWO ARE ON SEPARATE DRAINAGE PLANS.
SO IT CANNOT BE OFFSETTED ONE TO THE OTHER.
CAUSE EACH, EACH HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN.
SO SAL, COULD YOU COME UP AND TELL US WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THIS SITUATION AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN? SO PART OF THE PROPOSAL I WAS GOING TO BRING IS IF YOU, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, THEN I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA PAY TO GET THAT STUDY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO I MEAN AS FAR AS UH, THE SWAP FROM ONE TO THE OTHER ONE AS FAR AS THE GREEN AREA, OF COURSE, YEAH.
THAT CAN BE, THAT CAN BE MATCHED, UH, WHATEVER IT IS NOW TO WHATEVER IT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE ON THIS SIDE.
THE DRAINAGE DOES IS A DIFFERENT DRAINAGE.
THE OVERALL DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR THE WHOLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, UH, THE HEB, UH, UH, AREA AND FOR EVERYTHING AROUND THAT WAS CONCENTRATED IN THE, IN THE CHANNEL THAT COMES ALONG OAK DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, AND THEN CONNECTS UP TO THE SYSTEM THAT IS OUTFALLS THROUGH, UH, OAK DRIVE TO OUR, TO OUR CHANNEL AT, UH, THE GLUTE LAKE JACKSON CHANNEL.
THIS OTHER DRAINAGE SYSTEM VEERS OFF RIGHT ABOUT, UH, WELL RIGHT THERE WHERE WATLEY FIELD AND, UH, AND GATOR FIELD ARE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHANNEL THAT THIS CHANNEL DIVER YEAH.
DIVERGES FROM THERE UNDER CIRCLE WAY.
AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM.
AND THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE.
IT IS THIS NEW SYSTEM THAT, UH, WAS SIZED JUST, I MEAN, SEN ACTUALLY WORKED TREMENDOUSLY WITH THEIR ENGINEERS OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE HAD THERE WAS ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE THAT DETAIN, UH, DETAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY.
BUT THAT, THAT WAS ALSO WITH EVERYTHING BEING DEVELOPED IN IT, NOT, NOT THINKING APART BEING THERE.
IF WE GO IN THERE AND, UH, AS WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING, LIKE, UH, MR. MUNO SAID, COMING IN HERE AND DEVELOPING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COMMITTED OURSELF TO DOING THIS PORTION WITH THE, UH, CREDIT UNION, UH, PARK AND EVERYTHING.
THE SAVING GRACE OF THIS THING IS THAT THIS AREA WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO BE, UH, PERVI STOP.
I MEAN, UH, IMPERVIOUS STOP SURFACE TO, TO SOME DEGREE.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SWAP SOME BEING THIS IS A PARK, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SWAP SOME OF THIS CONCRETE FOR THAT.
SO THAT HELPS US IN THAT RESPECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE PROBABLY COMING OUT EVEN RIGHT HERE IN, IN PUTTING THIS PARKING LOT THERE.
MR. CARROLL, ON YOUR CHART YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE BLENDED RATE WITH A RESTAURANT, AM I READING IT RIGHT? IT SAYS WITH A RESTAURANT A BLENDED RATE, IT WOULD, YOU WOULD NEED 168 SPACES.
IS THAT CORRECT? TOTAL, TOTAL? 1 62 TOTAL.
1 62, YOU WOULD NEED 162 TOTAL.
AND THEN THE DELTA IS, IS THE, UH, IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU GO WITH THE, YOU'RE SHORT 26 SPACES.
AND THAT'S GOING WITH OPTION ONE.
NOW OPTION TWO, OF COURSE IT'S A BIGGER BUILDING, WHICH CHANGES THE, THE, THE DYNAMIC.
SO THE BUILDING COULD BE SHRUNK, AN OPTION TWO TO ACCOMMODATE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 48 PARKING SPACE, UH, FOR THE PARK.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY SIMPLE TRIANGLE, NOT THE DESIGN THAT HAS A WEAVE WITH TREES AND STUFF.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO
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RECTANGLE, RECTANGLE, RECTANGLE, IMPRESS IT, AND THEN KEEP MORE GREEN SPACE AROUND IT.UM, SO IT JUST SHOWS YOU, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S 48, 48 OR 49 SPACES.
AND THAT'S JUST A VERY SIMPLE DESIGN.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF A DESIGN LIKE THIS.
SO DOES IT HAVE TO BE CONCRETE AND IT'D BE, UH, BLACKED UP AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WE'D REINFORCE AND NO COMMERCIAL BARGAINING ON IT.
THE MAYOR'S ASKED, ACTUALLY ASKED US, SEE IF WE CAN LOOK AT A KIND OF A FIBER THAT HOLDS, UH, ROCK IN IT, UH, A GRID, GEOG GRID AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ALLOW MORE, YOU KNOW, A PERVIOUS SURFACE OF STUFF.
SO, BUT WE HAVEN'T COST THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST COSTED OUT A SIMPLE CONCRETE AS OUR, AS OUR BASIC DESIGN.
A LOT OF, A LOT OF CITIES ARE GOING TO THAT TYPE OF BUILD TO GET AROUND THE, THE PROBLEM WITH HARD SERVICES AND NO PLACE WITH WATER TO GO.
IT'S STILL WATER CAN FLOW THROUGH IT.
HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THAT IN INSTEAD OF SITTING, PUTTING IT.
I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY IF WE DO SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY, UH, ASK FOR IT TO, TO MATCH IF WE DID SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING ALL THIS NICE STUFF AND THEN GO IN THERE AND PUT ACHE PARKING LOT.
IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE PASSED IT.
IT'S NOT ACHE BA, IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.
WELL, WE HAVE ON THERE NOW ON THE SIDE IS KCI.
THIS IS WOULD BE AN UP UPGRADED APP.
AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED, EXPLORED THAT AND WE WOULDN'T BRING THAT TO COUNCIL.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THAT NICE FOR A RESTAURANT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA MAKE YOUR PEOPLE PARK IN THAT.
WELL GO LOOK AND GO, GO DRIVE BY BEAVER'S HOUSE ON LAKE ROAD AND LOOK INSIDE OF HIS ENCAMPMENT AND HIS IN FRONT YARD.
HIS FRONT YARD IS GRASS THAT'S ACTUALLY HAS A GEO GRID UNDERNEATH IT.
AND SO YOU CAN PARK VEHICLES ON IT.
AND INSTEAD OF DOING GRASS, YOU COULD DO GRASS, BUT YOU COULD ALSO, MOST PEOPLE, MOST CITIES PUT IN THE, UH, THE GRAY GRANITE STONE.
AND, UH, THERE'S, UH, THE DESIGN THAT WILL ACTUALLY LET YOU PLUG IN, UH, DOTS FOR DOING YOUR LANES FOR YOUR PARKING LANES AND STUFF TOO.
SO IT'S JUST, IT WOULDN'T BE A, WOULDN'T BE A CONCRETE WOULD BE A, A GRAVEL THAT'S HELD IN PLACE BY THE GEO GRID.
ANY ISSUES WITH LADIES WITH HIGH HEELS? UH, YOU DON'T WANT GOING TO FANCY RESTAURANT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO WALK ON THE SURFACE.
I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE NO, I, I, I AGREE.
THAT'S NOT, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT.
THE WOMEN CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES.
LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT WOMEN AND THEIR, ESPECIALLY FROM THE TESTOSTERONE SIGN.
MR. CARROLL WAS ASKING IS THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK FOR MORE OF A PROPOSAL.
DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SWAP OF, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST PUTTING SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HIM LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, RESTORING THE, WHAT IS ASPHALT NOW FOR GREEN SPACE AND USING THIS ALTERNATE SITE, YOU KNOW, FOR PARKING WITH A, A CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT WOULD, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT IN HIS PARKING COUNT.
BUT IT STILL WOULD, WOULD THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD STILL BE CITIES CITY'S PARKING? SEE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP ALL OF THAT AND TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING NICER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VISIT THE PARKING ISSUE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT EITHER.
IF THEY SELL THAT OTHER, THAT OTHER PLOT OVER THERE, WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME BOAT.
I I WOULD'VE TOLD MR. CARROLL, HAD THERE NOT BEEN A SWITCH ON THIS, I WOULD'VE SAID THAT MOST LIKELY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT PARKING COMPLETELY ON YOUR OWN DEVELOPMENT.
AND MEANING THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT.
BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT THE COUNCIL WAS WILLING TO LOOK AT LOSING GREEN SPACE IN THIS SCENARIO.
YOU'RE MA YOU'RE KEEPING GREEN SPACE THE SAME.
FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE NEVER DONE A CROSS ACCESS WITH THE PRIVATE.
AND SO YOU ARE PLANNING ON PAYING FOR THE SWAP AND PUTTING IN THE GREEN AND PUTTING IN THE PARKING LOT.
BECAUSE WE WOULD, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING SPECIAL.
CAUSE WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS.
SO IT WOULD BE IN EXCHANGE FOR ALL OF THIS, WE WILL DO ACROSS ACCESS AS WELL AS ADDRESSING WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE DRAINAGE.
DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR STUDY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, IF IT WORKS OUT, I'LL TRY AN AGREEMENT, MAKE SURE'S FEASIBLE.
ALL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET.
THEN IT'S, BUT I DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC NO.
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OKAY.I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN AND PERHAPS SEE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT YOU HAVING TO PUT OUT A BUNCH OF MONEY THAT WE DON'T THINK YOU'D GO WASTED IF, YOU KNOW, COUNCILSHIP LOOKS LIKE IS GONNA BE OPEN FOR THAT.
SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT, WELL, I'M OPEN FOR THAT.
THE OTHER THING, JUST LIKE CHASE SAID IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UNLESS RIGHT NOW, AND IN THE PU THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MULTI-USE ME, MULTI-FAMILY TYPE, I MEAN, BUT IT CAN BE ANYTHING.
MY, OUR PREFERENCE BE IS THAT THIS IS LIKE TOWN HOLDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT LIKE CHASE IS SAYING IS, IS IF YOU'RE GONNA DEVELOP, LIKE WE'RE TALKING HERE, SAME TYPE OF GROWTH HERE, THERE'S GONNA, THERE'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A PARKING ISSUE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHY VERNER COULDN'T DEVELOP.
IT WAS, CUZ HE WAS RUNNING INTO THE PARKING ISSUE.
HE COULDN'T MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK FOR HIM.
SO YES, WE'VE GOT THIS GREEN SPACE HERE.
IT'S, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA, FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK.
FUTURE COUNSELORS ARE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, BUT UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME CREATIVE, CREATIVE, DISCUSS CREATIVE THINKING AND DISCUSSIONS AND BACK AND FORTH.
SO I REALLY DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR JUST SOME GUIDANCE, BUT NO DECISION TONIGHT.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, IT'S NOT REALLY THE BLENDED ISSUE ON DISCUSSION IS, IS MORE IS IN PLANNER'S, UH, REALM.
DID YOU WANT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PARKS BOARD ON THE SWAP? ON THE SWAP AND, UH, ON THE PARKWAY
ANOTHER REASON WHY I WANTED TO DO A DISCUSSION HERE SO WE CAN GET A FEEL FROM THE COMMUNITY TOO, UH, AND TALK TO SOME PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT AND STUFF.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON.
AND I HAVE, I'M FEELING WE'RE GONNA GET 50 50.
WE DON'T WANNA LOSE PARKING CUZ I THINK THAT'S ALREADY A PREMIUM.
BUT WE DON'T WANNA LOSE OUR GREEN SPACE EITHER.
SO I THINK THE SWAP WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK INTO.
I WAS WONDERING TOO, IF, IF, IF DOING PARKING IN HERE MIGHT ALSO SUPPORT FOR A LONG RANGE REHAB OF THIS PARK AREA HERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, THEN IT COULD SERVE, I MEAN, MAYBE BOTH SIDES, UH, YEAH.
COULD BE A WIN-WIN IN A LOT OF OTHER WAYS.
WAYS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD IT, THEY'LL COME JUST SAY SO SOMETIMES, HOPEFULLY.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS A BIG ISSUE WITH PURSUING THE OPTION OF THE SWAP? MM.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT? AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN GO FOR IT.
FROM US RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN, UM, DO Y'ALL WANT IT TO GO TO PLANNERS? I MEAN, NOT PLANNERS TO PARKS TO TALK ABOUT THIS SINCE IT'S A SWAP.
DO Y'ALL SEE A NEED OR NOT? WHO'S, WHO REPRESENTS, WHO SITS WITH PLANTERS PARKS? UM, WHO, WHO'S HERE? I WAS LOOKING FOR ROBIN, WHO'S COUNCIL CHASE? WHO'S THE, WHO TALKING ABOUT THAT SWAP? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA HAVE ANY HEARTACHE OVER IT AT ALL.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS AS THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED, AND I'VE HEARD THINGS TOO, I JUST, CUZ I DRIVE THERE IN THE EVENING SOMETIMES AND I SEE THOSE BACKSTOPS.
IT'S IF WE, WE JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SAFE.
YOU KNOW, WE'D GETTING TOO MANY KIDS AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE PLACES TO MOVE THEM.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR US ANYWAY, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE START GETTING MORE PEOPLE WALKING THAT TRAIL OR SOMETHING.
AND YOU'VE GOT KIDS PRACTICING BASEBALL.
I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT BE A THING.
BUT, UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS FUTURE COUNCILS TALK ABOUT IT AS, AS PARKING DOES BECOME MORE OF A DEMAND FOR THIS BUILDOUT IS IF WE DO IT SMARTLY AND NOT JUST MAKE IT ALL CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SPACE IT OUT, YOU CAN STILL MAKE IT LOOK GREEN SPACE, BUT STILL HAVE PARKING ACTUALLY.
YOUR WANTS IT TO BE GREEN PARKING AND I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING DEFINITE NO.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO INVESTIGATE IT FURTHER AND THEN, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT TO PLANTER MEANS SOME PARKS, BUT PLANNERS, DO YOU WANT TO PURSUE THE, WHAT DO WE NEED WITH PLANNERS, THE
I THINK THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE A PRECURSOR OF, UH, YOUR CONVERSATION LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATE PLAN PROVISIONS AND, AND EXPLORING THAT.
IT DOESN'T NECESS, UH, NECESSARILY SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T USE THE PARKWAY OR YOU NEED TO, I THINK HE'S PROBABLY IS SHOWING HIS NUMBERS.
HE PROBABLY STILL NEEDS SOME PARKING, PARKING SPACES, BUT HE MAY NOT NEED AS MUCH, HE MAY NOT NEED A, A 50 SPACE, MAY NEED A 25, UH, IF, IF, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION'S OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATE PARKING PLAN, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM WE'RE GONNA NEED PARKING IN THIS AREA ANYWAY.
SO WE JUST WAITING TO PUSH OFF
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THIS ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD.SO BE KICKING THE SCAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN.
SO, I MEAN, IF WE, IF HE'S WILLING TO LOOK INTO IT AND, AND SPEND SOME OF HIS FUNDS AND HELP, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THE AREA, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
YOU KNOW, SO, SO THE TWO BIG POINTS THAT I'VE GOT HERE, IT'S, UH, WE REALLY WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAINTAIN THE GREEN SPACE AND THAT IT CAN SUPPORT HIGH HEELS.
APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY GETTING BACK HERE.
[2. Discuss and consider cancelling the agreement with Omkar for the Azalea Street extension – Modesto Mundo]
RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM TWOS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER, UH, CANCELING THE AGREEMENT WITH, UH, KAR FOR THE AZALIA STREET EXTENSION.UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH KAR TO EXTEND THE AZALEA, UM, ROAD AT A 75 25, UM, SPLIT.
UH, OM CARRE WAS LOOKING AT TO SEEING IF THEY COULD BUILD IT, UM, CHEAPER AND FASTER.
UM, A LOT OF THAT WAS BASED ON THE EARLY ESTIMATES THAT, UH, WE WERE GETTING.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GETTING, UM, A COST JUST FOR THAT PORTION IN FRONT OF, UH, THE HOTEL.
AND SO IN FACT, THEN WE MULTIPLIED IT FROM THE ENTIRE LENGTH.
WHAT WE WERE REALLY GETTING, CUZ WE WEREN'T SEEING THE DETAIL, UM, IS THAT WE WERE GETTING THE ENTIRE LENGTH, UH, OF THE COST
UM, AND SO WE DO, WE IN FACT PRACTICALLY DOUBLED THE PRICE.
THAT REALLY THEN SPARKED THE WHOLE DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE SAYING HE COULD DO IT CHEAPER, AND OF COURSE HE COULD BECAUSE WE WERE DOUBLING THE NUMBER, UH, IN THAT REGARD.
WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BUDGET ESTIMATE OF 750,000, UH, DOLLARS.
UH, WE'VE TALKED TO ALL THE PARTIES, IT'S HIT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING, UH, TRYING TO GET ALL THE PARTIES, UH, TO MOVE AT A, AT A STEADY PACE.
UM, IN ESSENCE, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT BECAUSE WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WELL WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT, UM, TO MAKE THE DEAL WORK FOR THE PARK PROPERTY AND THE OTHER DONATION, UM, WE REALLY THINK WE SHOULD, UH, LET THIS AGREEMENT, UH, GO AND THEN BUILD THE ROAD OURSELVES, UH, WITH THE CITY IN ESSENCE OF GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE PARK AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER PROPERTY.
UM, WE WOULD ASK OCO OR THE HOTEL TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, THEIR SIDEWALK AND IF IT SHOULD GO OVER OUR $750,000 BUDGET, WE WOULD ALSO ASK THEM THEN TO LOOK AT PAYING THE DIFFERENCE.
THE HOTEL ALWAYS HAS THE RIGHT TO, UM, BUILD THEIR OWN PRIVATE ROAD OFF THE EXTENSION, UH, IN THAT REGARD.
AND THEY'VE EXPLORED THAT, UH, POSSIBILITY, BUT NONE OF THE PARTIES REALLY WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE, I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE IT AS, AS A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND I THINK THIS, THIS IS WHY WE'RE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, BUILD THIS ROAD WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE WELL UNDER THE 750,000 AND THAT CAN CLEAR CLEARS.
WE WILL OPEN BIDS THE 10TH, MAY 10TH.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS I KNOW HE WAS ORIGINALLY REQUESTING A CAP RIGHT OVER THE SEVEN 50.
IS HE STILL MAKING THAT REQUEST? SO, WELL, WE, WHAT WE AGREED, WHAT WE, I SAY AGREED.
WHAT WE DISCUSSED WAS IS THAT IF FOR SOME REASON WE GET A BAD BID AND THE COST IS OVER SEVEN 50, THAT HE WOULD PICK UP THE ADDITIONAL COST WITH NO CAP.
HE DIDN'T ASK FOR A CAP, BUT, UH, HE, HE DOESN'T, HE DOESN'T EXPECT US TO GET A HIGH BID EITHER.
NO, BECAUSE HE'S, HE'S BEEN LOOKING THE SAME NUMBERS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO, AND AGAIN, HE ALWA AND HE STILL RETAINS THE OPTION OF BUILDING A PRIVATE ROAD, WHICH WE COULD NOT STOP HIM, UH, UH, TO DO.
SO IF HE COMES IN AT 3 MILLION, $3 MILLION, HE'S, HE'S GONNA SAY, I'M OUT, HE'S OUT.
HE'S GONNA BUILD HIS OWN HE'LL, HE WOULD BUILD HIS OWN ROAD.
THAT WOULD SERVE HIS PROPERTY.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUILD A ROAD THAT SERVES ALL OF THE PROPERTY.
HE COULD BUILD IT JUST TO SERVE HIS, BUT THAT WOULD AFFECT EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE IN A CITY'S BEST INTEREST FOR HIM TO DO THAT.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD AROUND THIS PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAY ROAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CAN TO ON THIS ITEM, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE AGREEMENT WITH KAR FOR THE AVIL AZALIA STREET EXTENSION.
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MOVING COUNCIL MEMBER SETH.GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
SO THIS TAKES HIM COMPLETELY OUT OF HIS PORTION OF THE PIE, RIGHT? YES.
OTHER THAN, UM, WE WOULD COME BACK WITH ANOTHER AGREEMENT BASED ON THE BID HE WOULD'VE TO BUILD HIS SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN IF IT COMES IN OVER SEVEN 50, HE WOULD'VE TO PAY HIS PORTION OVER THE SEVEN 50 IF HE AGREED TO THAT OR HE COULD BUILD HIS PRIVATE RUG.
RIGHT? WE'LL KNOW THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE THE BID, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
ANYWAY, THE, THE NEW AGREEMENT, SO ALL THIS IS, IS JUST CANCELING THE AGREEMENT.
THAT'S ABOUT THE RUN OUT OF TIME ANYWAY.
SO YOU WANT ME TO, DO YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL THEN BASICALLY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT.
WELL, WE WOULD CANCEL THE AGREEMENT.
WHAT WE'RE A STAFF IS ASKING IS CANCEL THE AGREEMENT, BUT THE NEW AGREEMENT WOULD COME BACK ONCE WE OPEN BIDS.
IT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT, IN EFFECT, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO A NEW AGREEMENT FOR A ROAD FOR HIS COST.
SO WE KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS AND THEN WE KNOW IF, UH, IF IT'S OVER THE SEVEN 50, WHAT THE AMOUNT THAT HE WOULD AGREE OR NOT AGREE TO PAY OVER THE SEVEN 50 FOR HIM.
SO IF YOU STILL WANT HIM TO PAY A PORTION OF IT, THEN YOU CAN, THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE'LL MAKE NEXT, NEXT, NEXT TIME WE BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND YOU CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DECIDE TO GO WITH.
THIS IS JUST TAKING THIS OFF THE TAPE, THIS TAKING THIS AGREEMENT OFF THE TABLE OR OFF BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.
SO HOW CAN WE PREVENT FOR HIM TO PUT A PRIVATE ROAD? CAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST.
HE CAN'T PREVENT, BUT YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE BY LET'S JUST DO IT.
IF IT COMES IN UNDER THE SEVEN 50 AND HE HAS TO DO HIS SIDEWALKS, BUT, BUT REMOVING THIS AGREEMENT, WOULD THAT FACILITATE HIM PUTTING IN A PRIVATE ROAD? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
HE COULD START POURING CONCRETE TOMORROW.
HE SCRAPING THE GROUND AND POURING CONCRETE TOMORROW.
IF HE GOT A PERMIT FROM, I GUESS HE'S A BIG MESS.
I MEAN, HE IS JUST, HE'S JUST CONTINUITY OF THE ROAD.
HAVING A PRIVATE DOOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY ROAD IS JUST WHAT, RIGHT.
AGAIN, HE'S THE, THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WAS IS HE'S NOT GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT UNTIL HE KNOWS WHAT WE GET AS FAR AS BIDS GO, AND THEN WHAT OUR, OUR WHAT THE OFFER WILL BE AFTER THAT, WHAT THE SITUATION WILL BE AFTER THAT, AFTER WE GET THE BIDS.
WE JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, UNTIL WE HAVE THE BID PRICE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT THIS FAR INTO THIS AND DIDN'T KNOW THE NUMBERS.
THAT BLOWS MY MIND, BUT, WELL, WE THOUGHT WE KNEW THE NUMBERS, BUT WE DIDN'T.
WE THOUGHT THE NUMBERS WERE ORIGINALLY THE MILLION THEN IT WENT DOWN.
HE COULD BUILD IT FOR SEVEN 50.
SO THAT'S, THE NUMBERS GOT DOUBLED ON OUR SIDE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CORRECT ON THIS MM-HMM.
UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO FORWARD TO VOTE.
ANY OPPOSE? ALL RIGHT, SO THE AGREEMENT'S CANCELED.
[3. Request to extend the set-out time for large trash to the Friday before the pickup schedule - Councilman Singhania]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE'S.REQUEST TO EXTEND THE, UH, UH, THE SET OUT TIME FOR LARGE TRASH TO FRIDAY BEFORE THE PICKUP SCHEDULED.
AND THIS IS, UH, COUNCIL, MISS SONYA MADE THIS REQUEST.
SO THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS REQUEST IS, UH, IN, UH, A LOT OF INTERESTING, A LOT OF FOLKS, UH, HAVE PEOPLE HAVE FRIDAYS OFF, SO THEY LIKE TO WORK IN THEIR YARDS AND GET HEAVY TRASH TOGETHER, AND IT'S JUST A LOT OF GRUMBLINGS ABOUT WHERE THEY PUT THAT STUFF BACK IN THE BACK AND THEN BRING IT TO THE NEXT MORNING FOR SATURDAY MORNING.
UH, EARLIEST YOU COULD PUTTING THE TRASH OUT.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY COULD JUST PUT IT OUT FRIDAY.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH DOING THAT ANYWAYS.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY PUT OUT RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, OFFICIAL.
WELL, YES, I, I, YOU KNOW, AND MAKES SENSE AND, AND ONE WAY I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THE OTHER WAY IS THAT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT HEAVY TRASH SITTING OUT TOO LONG.
SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS OFFICIALLY PUTTING IT OUT LONGER.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T WORK THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR FRIDAY OFF IS MONDAY OR IT'S TUESDAY, OR IT'S WEDNESDAY
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OR WHATEVER TYPE DAY.SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW,
IT JUST EXTENDS THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT HEAVY TRASH IS GOING TO OFFICIALLY BE ABLE TO SIT OUT.
WHY ARE PEOPLE PUTTING IT OUT FRIDAY OR DAY EARLY? SO, UH, EITHER WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM BREAK THE LAW, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE ARE TO ENFORCE IT AND FIND EVERYBODY WHO DOES, OR WE CAN MAKE IT.
SO IT'S 90% OF THE TIME IS, IS WITHIN THE LAW.
I'M, I'M OKAY WITH EITHER WAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS? IF NOT, UH, WHAT, GO AHEAD.
MAYBE I'M NOT, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE, THE, THE RED CHANGE TO SATURDAY? NO, IT IS SATURDAY TODAY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING CONFUSED IS, IS THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED UP HERE INSTEAD OF 5:00 AM SATURDAY, YOU WANNA WAKE, MAKE THIS WORD FRIDAY.
SO THIS ISN'T THE PROPOSED CHANGE, THIS IS THE PRESENT STATE? NO, NO, THIS IS, IT'S THE PRESENT.
AND IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS JUST, IT'S AN ORDINANCE, UH, RIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE.
IT'S, IT'S BAKED INTO THE ORDINANCE.
SO WE HAVE TO DO, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS ON IT, OR NO, WE JUST HAVE TWO READINGS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON IT? SOME OF THE, I MEAN, THE, THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT BIG TRASH STAYING OUT TOO LONG, IS THAT, ARE WE STILL HEARING THOSE? I KNOW FOR A WHILE WE GOT BEHIND BECAUSE OF HURRICANES AND THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT IS THAT STILL SOMETHING WE HAVE TROUBLE KEEPING UP WITH? UH, IT IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH, IT'S USUALLY THE BIG CULPRIT A LOT OF THE TIMES IS THE FIFTH FRIDAY, RIGHT? EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S EVERY OTHER WEEK.
AND SO SOMEONE WILL PUT IT OUT ON THE FIFTH FRIDAY AND THEN, UM, IT, THEN IT SITS THERE FOR TWO WEEKS.
UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CULPRIT.
BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT THEY JUST PUT IT OUT AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY FOLLOWING THE SCHEDULE.
AND THEN WE TRY TO POLICE, YOU KNOW, POLICE THOSE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE'VE LOOKED AT ONE NEIGHBOR, ONE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE PLUM CIRCLE IN THE EVENING, AND THERE WAS 26 HOMES THAT PUT IT OUT, YOU KNOW, LARGE TRASH ON THE WRONG WEEK.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, CAUSE BILLY BOB OVER THERE PUT HIS OUT, AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE, THEY SEE SOMEONE PUT IT ON THE, I DON'T WANNA MISS IT.
IT, AND THEN IT, OH, IT MUST BE OUR, WE, THAT'S OUR WEED.
AND WE TRIED TO SEND, YOU KNOW, SEND THIS OUT THE HEAVY TRASH SCHEDULE AND STUFF.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS, AT LEAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY, AND MS. ENGLAND COULD PROBABLY ATTEST OR DENY IT, I MEAN, REVIEWED THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE HARD, THE HEAVY TRASH TRUCK COME THROUGH, OH, IT WAS HEAVY TRASH DAY.
SO AS THE TRUCK IS PICKING UP AND LEAVING, THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR STUFF OUT RIGHT BEHIND IT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE, ALLOWING IT TO PUT IT ON FRIDAY.
THAT'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING FOR THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS THE TRUCK COMES AND PICKS IT UP, THEY HEAR THE TRUCK AND, AND THEY'RE OUT THERE PUTTING IT OUT.
SO VERY NEXT MOR MORNING IS THERE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON IT.
SORRY, I MAY, THERE'S NO INTEREST IN THE COUNCIL? NO, SINCE TO MAKING A MOTION FOR IT TO SIT THERE AND DIE.
YOU CAN STAND UP FOR YOUR, UH, ALL RIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, EXTEND THE SET OUT TIME FOR LARGE TRASH TO FRIDAY BEFORE THE PICK UP SCHEDULE.
ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
SABRINA, WOULD DOING THIS HELP ANY FROM THE, FROM THE ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE? SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, CAN WE FOLLOW THE OKAY.
AND SECOND WE'LL DO THAT OR NOT, AND THEN WE CAN, ALL RIGHT.
SO IS THERE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM ALSO? ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A SECOND.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.
NO, IT DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO HAVE IT OUT THERE.
UM, THE WAY THAT THE CITY FUNCTIONS AND HOW WE DO THIS, AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE, UH, HARSH ON OUR CITIZENS AND, AND BE UNHELPFUL BY FRIDAYS, WE'RE NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GO OUT AND WE ASSESS.
WE GIVE YOU A THREE DAY TO PICK UP OR CONTACT US, LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS.
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IT DOESN'T DO ME ANY GOOD TO COME OUT ON A FRIDAY AND TRY TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU SET IT OUT EARLY, MONDAY'S YOUR WEEK ANYWAYS, I'M GONNA PICK IT UP FOR FREE ON THAT WEEK.SO I'M NOT GONNA HAVE YOUR THREE DAY THING THERE.
WE GO OUT AND WE LOOK AT THOSE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS MR. COUNCILMAN SONIA SAYING PEOPLE, THEY GET A, THEY GET A NICE DAY AND THEY WANNA GET OUT THERE AND THEY WANNA GET HAPPY.
AND SO THEY PUT IT OUT A LITTLE EARLY.
I'M NOT GONNA GO JUMP ON THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? UM, IF IT'S A HABITUAL PERSON THAT'S CONSTANTLY DOING AFTER, I MIGHT HAVE HAD TO HAVE RESPONDED DUE TO A CITIZEN COMPLAINT.
WE GO OUT THERE, WE TALK TO 'EM, WE LET 'EM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WE GIVE THEM COPIES OF THE ORDINANCE, WE TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS FUNCTIONS AND PLEASE DON'T DO THIS AGAIN.
THESE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF IT GOES THERE.
BUT I DON'T RIDE AROUND ON FRIDAYS TRYING TO HIT THE HOUSES.
UM, I WOULD PREFER THEM NOT TO PUT 'EM OUT ON THE FRIDAYS, BUT BECAUSE I'VE GOT CREWS TRYING TO GO OUT THERE AND, AND CLEAR AND GET EVERYTHING, AND THEN YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SEES IT OUT THERE AND THEY SAY, OH, I FORGOT TO TAKE IT OUT THAT DAY.
SO LET ME, IT'S, IT'S STILL OUT THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, CUZ FRED TOOK IT OUT.
LET ME TAKE IT OUT THERE WITH FRED.
BUT FRED CAME AND CAME AFTER MY TRUCKS CAME BY.
SO FROM A, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE FIELD MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET THOSE YES.
LOOKING TO SEE, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS, WE KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR HEAVY TRASH WEEK.
AND SO THEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RED TAGGING THEM, SAYING YOU'VE PUT IT OUT ON THE WRONG, THE WRONG WAY.
AND THEN IF THEY'RE HABITUAL, THEN THEY COULD WIND UP GETTING, YOU KNOW, A CITATION.
BUT IT'S USUALLY EARLY ON IN THE WEEK AND NOT LATER.
LATER ON THE WEEK FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.
SO YOU'RE SPEAKING AS FOR THE EMPLOYEES, THAT YOU HAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND IT'S WORKING OKAY.
BENEFIT TO A CHANGING THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH.
WILL IT WORK OKAY IF YOU CHANGE? THAT'S FOR COUNCIL'S DECISION.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW, UH, ON HOW IT'S GOING.
WELL, WE WANNA ACCOMMODATE YOUR WORKERS AND YOU GUYS NOT PUTTING, I HAVE PUTTING ANY, I HAVE PAPERWORK AND STUFF THAT ALREADY SAYS, HEY, THIS IS HOW IT GOES.
I WOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE UP MY PAPERWORK.
UH, AND I WOULD HAVE TO LET MY CREWS KNOW THAT WE'VE CHANGED THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN, UH, OBJECTION I WOULD HAVE TO IT, THAT I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FROM THE PICKUP.
WE'RE STILL, NO, YEAH, WE STILL WON'T START PICKING UP UNTIL MONDAY, RIGHT? UM, IT DOES THE, UM, FROM A, AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, MOST LIKELY WE'RE NOT OUT THERE ON FRIDAY, UNLESS IT'S SOMEONE WHO IS MY CONCERNED HABITUALLY DOING IT.
IF YOU EXTEND IT TILL FRIDAY, THEN THEY'RE GONNA START PUTTING OUT ON THURSDAY ANYWAYS.
SO IT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S THE HARDEST THING I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO GET, PUSH THE LINE ANYWAYS.
TO GET PEOPLE TO, TO STAY ON THEIR WEEKS.
UH, AND TO REALIZE THEIR WEEKS IN, LIKE MR. MUNO SAID THAT FIFTH WEEK MESSES 'EM UP SOMETIMES.
AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE JUST AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME IT'S AN EVERY OTHER WEEK THING, RIGHT.
AND NOT THAT IT'S A FIRST AND A THIRD AND A SECOND AND A FOURTH.
AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE EXTENDED OUT, UH, LETTERS.
WE'VE PUT 'EM IN THROUGH THE MAILINGS.
WE'VE ALSO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE WITH THE CALENDARS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO COLOR COORDINATE TO MAKE IT THE EASIEST TO GO.
UM, PEOPLE JUST HAVE A HARD TIME, UH, CATCHING UP ONTO THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THIS WAS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS.
I'M RETIRED EVERY DAY IS SATURDAY
SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T BOTHER ME EITHER WAY.
I HAVE CHORES FOR YOU IF YOU WANNA COME TO THE HOUSE OR SATURDAYS
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE WHO ARE BREAKING THE LAW, IT'S OKAY TO, FOR YOU TO BREAK THE LAW, NOT WILLING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM OUT ON FRIDAYS.
THAT HELPS THEM SPREAD OUT, PUTTING STUFF OUT ON FRIDAY IF THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING IN THE YARD, WHICH IS OKAY, I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
SO IF YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU PUT OUT FRIDAY, WE DON'T POLICE IT.
WE DO POLICE ON EGREGIOUS ONES, SIR.
AND IF WE DO HAVE COMPLAINTS, WE COME OUT THERE, BUT GENERALLY ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON OR FRIDAY, I'M NOT GONNA BE RIDING THE CITY LOOKING FOR THINGS.
BUT I DON'T RIDE THE CITY ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON LOOKING FOR A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.
I'M TRYING, I I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT.
I DON'T WANNA BE THAT DRACONIAN BOOT.
I DON'T WANNA BE THAT PERSON THAT'S OUT THERE DOING THAT.
UH, WE RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS AND WE DO RUN THROUGH THE CITY, NOT JUST ON HEAVY TRASH, BUT ON ALL OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
SO THE PERSON WHO PUTS THE STUFF OUT ON THURSDAY IS NOT GONNA SAY, HEY, THIS, THESE GUYS PUT IT ON FRIDAY.
YOU CITING ME, BUT YOU'RE NOT CITING THE ONE WHO PUTS IT OUT FRIDAY.
WE DO HAVE THAT IN OCCASIONALLY.
AND WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THAT ISSUE WHEN IT COMES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
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ALL RIGHT.[4. Discuss and consider extending the SPCA lease agreement – Modesto Mundo ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER EXTENDING THE, UH, S B C A LEASE AGREEMENT.UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, FROM OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WE'VE, UM, WE'RE IN, UH, WE'RE IN A, A, IN A PROPOSAL STAGE NOW THAT IS KIND OF IN LIMBO UNTIL WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO BUILD OUR NEW SHELTER.
HOWEVER, THE S SPCA WOULD LIKE TO START SPENDING MONEY ON DESIGN AND LOOKING AT AN EXPANSION ONCE WE LEAVE, OR SHOULD WE LEAVE.
UM, IN THAT REGARD, UH, WE WANTED TO TRY TO HAMMER OUT, UH, THE AGREEMENT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
THAT GIVES THEM THAT LEEWAY THAT THE LEASE DOESN'T START, THAT THEY ACTUALLY COULD START INVESTMENT, BUT THE LEASE TIME WOULDN'T START UNTIL ACTUALLY WE LEAVE AND THEN WE'D START CHARGING THEM FOR THE BUILDING.
CUZ RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL IN THE BUILDING AND A CUSTOMER, AND WE'RE SHARING IN THAT COST.
ONCE WE LEAVE, THEN IT WOULD TURN OVER TO A, A LEASE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE KIND OF IN THIS FLUX OF, THEY'D LIKE TO START INVESTING IN EXPANDING RIGHT NOW WITH NO FORMAL LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S SHERRY'S COME UP WITH A WAY WHERE WE COULD START THAT LEASE AGREEMENT.
NOW THEY CAN START THE INVESTMENT, BUT THERE'S NO ACTUAL CHARGE UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE LEAVE THE BUILDING.
AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE AREAS OF EXPANSION, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS.
UM, THE INTERIM TERM WOULD COMMENCE ON JUNE 1ST, AND THEN THE FULL TERM WOULD BEGIN WHEN THE CITY OPENS THE CITY OF ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY.
SO WE CONTROL THAT, UM, TERM, UH, THE TERM START DATE, AND IT'S 20 YEARS ONCE THE FULL TERM BEGINS, AND THERE'S AN OPTION FOR A 10 YEAR EXTENSION WRITTEN AGREEMENT FROM BOTH PARTIES.
AND THE RENT DURING THE FULL TERM IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH.
AND THE S SPCA IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR INSURANCE, PESCO CONTROL AND CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, AND CONTRACT MOWING.
UH, THEN WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT STILL LIKE A CITY FACILITY OTHER THAN THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY JUST LIKE THEY DO NOW.
THEY PAY FOR THE ELECTRICITY, ALL THE UTILITIES, GAR, YOU KNOW, GARBAGE SERVICE.
THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALREADY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE ENSURE THE BUILDING AND I THINK WE DO PEST CONTROL, UH, AND THEN WE DO THE CONTRACT MOWING.
UH, AND SO WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN THAT AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US FOR THOSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? SO YOU CAN JUST CHANGE IT AGAIN, IF WE COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, NOT GOOD NUMBERS AND WE DECIDE TO PUSH OFF THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, WE CAN JUST REDO THIS.
UH, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T, WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
IT, IT SAYS UNTIL OUR OPENING DATE, IF WE NEVER HAVE A OPENING DATE, THIS WOULD BE GOOD, BUT I THINK WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO CHANGE IT UP AND MAKE IT MORE CONCRETE IF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
YEAH, IT STILL ALLOWS US THE FLEXIBILITY FOR AN UNDEFINED TERM TO STILL BE A, USING OUR CLIENT OR USER OF THE BUILDING WITH THE SPCA.
A BEING, YOU KNOW, BEING THE OPERATOR UNTIL WE CAN FIND, YOU KNOW, OUR FOOTING ON OUR NEW FACILITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION OR NOT.
WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE S SPCA A LEASE AGREEMENT AS WRITTEN.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SETH AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE? OKAY, THEN WE GO ON TO
[5. Update on TxDOT Transportation Alternatives pre-application – Milford John-Williams]
UPDATE ON TEXT DOT MILFORD.UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.
UM, I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY GO TOUCH OVER WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU A COUPLE MONTHS BACK AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING THE TECH DODGE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PRE-APPLICATION.
UM, SO I GAVE YOU THIS BACKGROUND BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED A STATEWIDE CALL FOR PROJECTS, UM, FOR
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TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES SET ASIDE.AND THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION WAS DUE ON JANUARY 27TH, WHICH WE DID, UM, UM, GO THROUGH THAT THOUGH.
SO OUR PROJECT CATEGORY WAS ON THE COMMUNITY BASED INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, OUR TARGET PROJECT FUNDING AMOUNTS WAS BE, WAS UP TO 5 MILLION FOR THAT.
UM, OUR PROPOSED PROJECT WAS THE 10 PER FOOT SHARED USE PATH ALONG A LAKE ROAD, UM, TOQUE DRIED SOUTH, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF SPURS THAT WE HAD WITH THE IDEA TO CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE LAKE ROAD, UM, TO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, MEDICAL CENTER, DOW, AND THEN EVENTUALLY GET OVER TO, UM, DOWNTOWN.
WE HAD A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE, REALLY ROUGH ESTIMATE FOR ABOUT 2.5 MILLION, AND THIS WOULD BE WITHIN AN 80 20 SPLIT.
WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN A 20% PORTION FOR THAT.
UM, LAST TIME I CAME UP TO YOU, I INFORMED YOU THAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE THE REVIEW AND THE, UM, ELIGIBILITY AND PROVIDING THE DETAIL APPLICATION AND WITH THE DEADLINE GOING ON IN JUNE AND REVIEW AND A POSSIBLE AWARD IN OCTOBER.
WELL, WE HAD A CALL AND I BELIEVE THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER WERE ON THAT CALL.
UM, AND A TEXT DOT HAD CERTAIN NOTES OF CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THOSE NOTES HAVE BEEN SUMMED UP HERE.
UH, THE PATH THAT WE RECOMMENDED DIDN'T MEET THEIR CRITERIA.
THEY THOUGHT IT TO BE EXTENDED.
UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UH, HAVING CHANGES TO THE INTERSECTION ALONG THERE, UH, CURB RAMPS, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND CERTAIN PLANS AND A LOT OF UTILITY AND DRAINAGE CONFLICTS.
UM, AND AS A RESULT OF THIS CALL, WE REALIZED THAT THIS WOULD DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE SCOPE OF OUR PROJECT AND BASICALLY PUSH US AT THAT $5 MILLION LIMIT, WHICH, UM, FOR US WE WERE THINKING, WELL, 20% OF THAT, THAT'S REALLY HARD TO TRY TO YET ALL OF THIS NOTED AND RECTIFIED AND APPLY AT THAT LEVEL OF SCALE AND GET IT DONE BEFORE JUNE WHEN WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY, UH, HUGE SET OF PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.
RIGHT? SO GOING FORWARD, WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO APPLY FOR THIS ROUND OF FUNDING.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO BUDGET, UH, DOLLARS FOR PRELIMINARY DESIGN, $50,000 THAT WE WOULD NOTE TO YOU AS PART OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS.
UM, WE, AND WE'VE TALKED WITH, UM, CERTAIN OTHER CITIES AND ADMINISTRATORS THINKING THERE WILL MORE LIKELY THAN NOT BE A FUTURE ROUND OF FUNDING FOR THIS.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT THAT HAPPENS, WE ARE COMING TO YOU WONDERING WHAT WOULD BE A 20% MATCHING AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH FOR A FUTURE PROJECT.
WE CAN OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE SCOPE OF IT, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WHAT WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH? AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT OR TRY TO WORK ON FINDING SOMETHING SUITABLE IN THAT REGARD.
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING SET THAT ASIDE FOR THE NEXT PROJECT.
WE WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THE HALF CENT BUDGET AND SEEING IF WE WANT TO PUT MONEY ASIDE THE HALF CENT FOR TRUMP AS OUR MATCHING PORTION.
BUT IN ESSENCE, WHEN YOU START LISTENING TO THE CONSULTANT AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE CONFLICT POINTS, WE REALLY NEED TO BRING AN OUTSIDE ENGINEER IN TO DO THE PRELIMINARY, UM, ASSESSMENT, UH, AND DESIGN AS FOR THE COST TESTAMENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH TECH STOCK REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? AND IT GETS AS SIMPLE AS EVEN THE INTERSECTION, ALL OF THE LIGHT, ALL THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS HAVE TO MOVE.
UH, SO WE UTILIZE THAT, THAT OTHER THIRD PARTY COMPANY FOR THIS, RIGHT? WE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THEIR NAME.
LANGFORD, I MEAN, MANAGEMENT SERVICE.
WE USE THEM AS AN INITIAL APPLICATION, BUT THEY CAN'T DO A COST ESTIMATE.
IT HAS TO BE AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT LOOKS AT THESE CONFLICT POINTS.
SO THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ENGINEERS AND SO THEY CAN HELP US FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, BUT THEY CAN'T HELP US DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE PRICE ON THERE.
AND SO, AND WE REALLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE OR WELL WORTH ALL IN-HOUSE, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHAT TEXTILES IS LOOKING AT THEIR STANDARDS.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, UH, FOR THAT.
I'M, THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, CLOSE.
CAN I JUST SAY THAT? I JUST THINK WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON AND WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FROM AN
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INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE, FROM WHAT WE ALSO ARE UNDERTAKING CURRENTLY WITH OUR HALF CENT PROJECT, UM, I PERSONALLY AM NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING ASIDE THE MONEY FOR YET ANOTHER PROJECT FOR US TO HAVE TO, TO WORK ON, TO FIND MONEY FOR AND THEN TO MAINTAIN.AND REALLY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING ON, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THIS IF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WASN'T EVEN WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT IN 500,000 AS A MATCH AS A MATCHING PORTION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN I INITIALLY PRESENTED THIS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I DID, UH, NOTE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF CAVEATS AND NOTHING SET IN STONE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS UP.
AND IF YOU GUYS ARE O IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CONTINUE FURTHER, THAT IS TOTALLY FINE.
IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THAT IS ALSO FINE TOO.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR WITHOUT GETTING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS.
SO WHY DIDN'T OUR CONSULTANT FIND THESE COUNTRIES? YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
I MEAN, WHAT DID WE PAY THEM FOR? WHAT DO WE PAY THEM? THE CONSULTANT, WE DIDN'T PAY THEM ANY, WE DIDN'T PAY THEM ANYTHING.
NO, WE HAVE PAID THEM THOUGH, RIGHT? FOR THE, FOR A SEPARATE GRANT.
FOR A SEPARATE GRANT, ALL THEY DID FOR US WAS HELP US ON THIS APPLICATION TO SUBMIT.
BUT THEY'RE NOT, WE DIDN'T USE THEM FOR THEIR NO EXPERTISE.
AND THEY WILL COMPLETELY SAY, ALL THEY HELP YOU DO IS HELP YOU DO THE APPLICATION.
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING THE FINANCIAL ESTIMATE WITH AN ENGINEER.
THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY OUR, WE TOOK OUR BEST SHOT AT IT AND THEN THEIR CONSULTANT CAME BACK AND SAYS, ALL THESE CONFLICTS SAYS YOUR BRIDGE IS NOT GOING TO MEET THIS.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE EIGHT FOOT OFFSET THE ROAD.
YOU'RE GONNA NOW HAVE TO ADD A BRIDGE.
ALL YOUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE.
UH, SO WHEN YOU START HEARING THAT, YOU START REALIZING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENGINEER WHO IS, IF WE WANT TO GO FURTHER, WHO HAS EXPERIENCE OF DEALING WITH TECH DOT ON HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS TO REALLY DEVELOP A GRANT SUBMITTAL.
AGAIN, WHAT THIS IS TURNING INTO IS JUST REVISITING THE GARDNER CAMPBELL TRAIL.
AND THAT WAS IS THAT, UH, WHEN YOU START ADDING IN TECH DOTS REQUIREMENTS AND EX, UH, THAT THE COST JUST GOES THROUGH THE ROOF.
AND I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF, IF WE DID GO FORWARD WITH, UH, ENGINEERING THIS OUT, THAT IT COMES IN UNDER 5 MILLION.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT, WE JUST WENT DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD, WE WENT DOWN THE TRAIL OF TRYING TO, UH, TO SEE IF THIS, IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT, THAT THIS WAS A GOOD GRANT FOR US.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT, EVEN IF WE HAD THE MONEY SITTING AROUND, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD GRANT FOR US BECAUSE I, AGAIN, WHEN YOU START SEEING THESE CONFLICTS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING WITH TECH DOT.
SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING FOR THIS, THESE GRANT STUFF'S THE CHALLENGE.
THE CHALLENGE HERE IS IT'S THE CONVERSION.
RIGHT? THE WHOLE, OUR PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM HAS BEEN CREATED AROUND SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? OF FOUR, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND THEN CONVERTING IT INTO A 10 TO 12 FOOT TRAIL.
YOU JUST HAVE TO REIMAGINE AND REDO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.
IF YOU CAN BE TOTALLY COMMITTED WITH THAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE GOAL.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO A TRAIL ON THIS CORRIDOR, WE'RE COMMITTED.
AND YOU CAN FIND THAT FEDERAL FUNDING.
IT'S NOT ONE TO HAPHAZARDLY JUST GET IN AND APPLY AND SAY, OH, MAYBE WE'LL BE ELIGIBLE, UH, AND STUFF.
IT'S GOTTA BE A TOTAL COMMITMENT AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, SETH, I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, IT IS A LOT EASIER TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES IF YOU DO IT AT A POINT WHERE IT COMES AT NO COST
[6. Update on new business – David Walton]
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX UPDATES.DAVID, EVERYBODY IS PREPARING FOR THE, UH, CHICK-FIL-A OUTAGE.
THEY'RE FILLING OUT THEIR FREEZERS.
THEY A GREAT OUTAGE OF, UH, 2023.
UM, THEY, CHICK-FIL-A IS AN AMAZING COMPANY THOUGH.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
THEY'LL TURN IT AROUND QUICK AND THEY WON'T BE, UM, WE WON'T BE WITHOUT THE CHICKEN FOR VERY LONG.
UH, WHAT YOU WILL NOTE, A COUPLE OF BIG CHANGES.
WE HAVE ISSUED 115 HOUSE PERMITS UP AT, UH, LAKEWOOD MANOR OR RUN WEAT, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S ABOUT 15 LEFT TO PERMIT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A, UM, UH, STAGGERING HOLD ON ANY OF THOSE FROM GAINING OCCUPANCY BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER OUT TO THAT SITE YET.
SO CENTERPOINT, THEY'RE WORKING WITH CENTERPOINT TO, TO GET POWER PULLED IN THERE
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SO THAT THEY CAN GET METERS INSTALLED AND, AND THOSE HOUSES POWERED UP.UM, YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE THAT CAVENDER'S NOW APPEARS ON THIS LIST.
WE HAVE THE WHITE BOX PERMIT, MEANING THAT NOW THEY ARE DOING THE DEMOLITION SPECIFICALLY FOR CAVENDERS IN THOSE SPACES.
AND I DID TALK TO THEM MALL TODAY, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM BRAZOS MALL IN REGARDS TO THE APPLICATION FOR THEIR BUILDOUT TENANT IMPROVEMENT PERMIT.
SO WE WILL, WE SHOULD BE EXPECTING THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE? YOU HEARD ANY MORE FROM REGAL ON THEIR EXPANSION? I HAVE NOT.
UH, I TALKED TO THEY'RE, THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH GETTING THE NUMBERS TO WORK FOR 'EM.
THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR THAT'S PUTTING A BID ON IT, SO IT, IT LOOKS PROMISING WITH A NEW CONTRACTOR.
BUT THAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, MR. MAYOR.
I, I DO ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE ONE OTHER THING I I CAN MENTION.
UM, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE, UH, MANAGER OVER AT LUBY'S.
UH, THEY DO HAVE ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT OR ENTITY LOOKING AT THAT SPACE, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE KNOW THIS WEEK WHETHER OR NOT IT, THAT DEAL IS GONNA GO THROUGH.
IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ARE TOLD THEY HAVE ABOUT 30 DAYS TO, UH, UM, CONTINUE OPERATION.
BUT I THINK, UH, LU'S IS KIND OF LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE APARTMENTS BEHIND BUCKY'S, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MY NEXT QUESTION THAT JUST PLAIN JUST WON'T, UH, PROGRESS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH, WITH THE LUBIES, BUT THEY ARE, THEY'RE FILLING THAT DINING ROOM, UH, ON THE DAYS THAT THEY ARE OPEN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO GOOD.
SO, UM, THE VILLA APARTMENTS, THEY ARE PROGRESSING.
THEY DID CONTACT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN REGARDS TO DOING SOME, UH, INSPECTIONS FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL'S END, WHICH MEANS THAT SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, ARE GETTING CLOSE TO, UM, FINISHING OUT ON THE INTERIORS.
THE ONES CLOSER TO THE, THE FENCES ON WILLOW, OR SORRY, WALNUT.
AND, UM, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WATCHING THEM AND WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THEIR INSPECTIONS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER AND, UH, WORKING WITH THEIR ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER ON, ON EVALUATING THE BUILDING SITE.
SO WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION, MS. SETH? JUST ABOUT WHERE WE WERE AT.
I HAD A CITIZEN ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT TODAY AND SHE WAS ALSO ASKING ARE THEY TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD? AND I SAID, I'M PRETTY SURE THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES MM-HMM.
IT MAY BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A PROJECT THAT WE CAN INSPECT FASTER THAN I CAN BUILD
MY, MY, UH, SIX YEAR OLD IS INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF THE CHUCK E CHEESE REMODEL WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE HER BIRTHDAY IN AUGUST.
I'M SURE IT PROBABLY WILL BE OKAY.
I MEAN, MY, MY 15 YEAR OLD'S ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN THAT CUZ THEY JUST OFFERED HER A JOB.
SO MAYBE SHE CAN BE CHUCKY AND MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE SHE CAN, SHE CAN MOVE THAT ALONG, SO.
[7. City Manager Updates]
CITY MANAGER'S UPDATES,I THINK WE'VE, UH, GOT A AGREEMENT ON MAY 22ND, UH, FIVE 30.
WE'LL PROBABLY TRY TO KNOCK OUT UTILITIES AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IF WE CAN.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE GENERAL CIP P MAY BE HALF SET AS, AS, AS WELL ON, ON THAT NIGHT.
UM, BUT THAT'S MAY 22ND AT FIVE 30 AND WE'LL SERVE DINNER AND THEN ON CANCEL ACTION ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, DON'T HAVE ANY, HAVE ANY THE, UH, ARE WE DOING THE CIP P WORKSHOP A LITTLE LATER THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST? YEAH, WE'VE USUALLY DONE IT IN APRIL, AND THEN WE HAVE A DATE ALSO THAT GOT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
WE HAD ON THE SCHEDULE FOR OUR, UM, OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY ON JULY 22ND, WHICH IS ABNORMALLY LATE DOWN.
IT USUALLY WOULD'VE BEEN EARLIER ON EARLIER, LIKE ON THE 15TH, MID EARLY.
SO FIRST HALF, NOT THE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATE TIME FOR THAT, BUT YES, USUALLY WE DO THIS IN APRIL AND WE'VE UH, WE'VE PUSHED IT BACK.
YEAH, SO IT'D BE THE 15TH IF WE MOVED IT UP A WEEK THEN.
IS THE 22ND GOOD IN JULY FOR EVERYBODY OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IT ON THE 15TH? UH, FOR ME, EITHER DATE'S FINE.
YOU WANT US TO SEND OUT ANOTHER SURVEY AND ASK SO YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS?
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NO, NO.SO WE'LL SEND OUT A SURVEY ON THIS, BUT MAY 22ND.
IS THAT GOOD STILL? YES, FOR ME IT IS.
I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING AND I WILL SEND OUT A SURVEY FOR THE SATURDAY SESSION.
[8. Construction Updates]
WHATEVER INTERESTS YOU, I CAN, UH, RE TRY TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.UH, THE DOWNTOWN, OF COURSE, IT'S JUST SLOWS MOLASSES.
THE, UH, ELECTRIC, UH, THE ELECTRIC COMPANY CENTER POINT HAS MOVED IN.
AND, UH, THEY WERE LOCATING THE, UH, POLE LOCATIONS FOR THE STREET LIGHTS, AND THEY WILL BE STARTING THE FOUNDATION HOPEFULLY, UH, WITHIN THE WEEK, UH, AND FINISHED OFF DURING THE WEEK AND PROBABLY STARTING SELLING SOME OF THOSE POSTS AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT IS ALSO MOVING IN ON, ON DOING THEIR, UH, WIRE PULLING, UH, ON THEIR, UH, ON THE, UH, STREET LIGHTS.
ON THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN PEDESTRIAN.
UH, CONCRETE IS, UH, THE CONCRETE PORTION ALONG NORTH MARKETPLACE IS, UH, MOVING ALONG THE, THE PRIMARY UPPER SIDEWALK PORTION IS BEING BUILT TODAY.
THEY BUILT ANOTHER LITTLE PORTION OF THAT THING, AND THEY'RE FILLING IN WHEREVER THEY LEFT OUT IN THE OTHER ONE.
UH, THE OTHER, UH, SEGMENTS, UH, THEY ARE ALSO, UH, GOING TO START REMOVING THE CONCRETE AT THE, UH, SHOPPING CENTER WHERE THE ALL AMERICAN PIZZA IS.
THEY WILL BE DOING THAT ONE WEDNESDAY.
THAT'S THE FRONT, FRONT SIDE, UH, THE FRONT SIDE.
AND, UH, THEY ARE MOVING ANOTHER SIDEWALK CREW, UH, TO DO THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON THE, ON THE SIDEWALK PORTION OF THAT.
SO THAT IS MOVING AHEAD IS MOVING ALONG AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MELISSA AND I LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING AND WE'RE SAYING SIX WEEKS STILL, YOU KNOW.
THERE'S ALWAYS A HEADACHE SOMEWHERE.
WE'RE GOTTEN PAST THE BRICK FACADE ISSUES.
NO, WE HAVE A MEETING, UH, TOMORROW CONCERNING THE, UH, THE TWO BUILDINGS.
IS IT TWO OR TWO BUILDINGS? OH, THE BRICK FACADES.
UH, WE HAD THE, UH, UH, FOUNDATION COMPANY LOOK AT THAT AND TALK WITH THE OWNER, AT LEAST ONE OF THE OWNERS.
AND, UH, HE WAS RECEPTIVE TO WHAT HE HAD.
YOU KNOW WHAT HE RECOMMENDED THAT RIGHT.
HE'S GONNA BE, UH, SENDING ME HIS, UH, REPORT OF WHAT HE'S, UH, PROPOSING.
THAT'LL HELP, THAT'LL SUPPOSEDLY SATISFY THE GENTLEMAN TO BRING YOU EXPLAIN TO COUNSEL.
WE'VE HAD, WE HAD TWO BUILDINGS WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE OUR BEST GUESS IS THAT THE BUSINESSES AT SOME POINT IN TIME PROBABLY CHANGED THEIR FACADE AND PUT BRICK, A BRICK FACE ON IT.
AND WHEN THEY DID, IT WASN'T ON THEIR FOUNDATION, IT WAS ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND SO WHEN THEY CUT THE SIDEWALK, THEY DIDN'T CUT IT ALL THE WAY DOWN.
WHEN THEY START PUSHING, PULLING THE SIDEWALK OUT, IT WAS ACTUALLY TAKING OUT A LEDGE, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE NEW FA FASS.
AND SO NOW WE'VE GOTTA COME BACK AND SEE HOW WE CAN, UH, SORT SUPPORT, YEAH, SUPPORT, SUPPORT THAT FASCIA BRICK, UH, UH, FASCIA.
AND IT'S HAPPENED ON TWO BUSINESSES.
THAT HAPPENED ON THE, UH, ON THE TREASURE TEST, RIGHT? THERE WAS ONE.
AND ON ALSO ON THE HAIR SALON.
UH, NOT THE, UH, BUSH RACKERS, THE OTHER HAIR SALON.
MR. ROY'S, MR. ROY'S HAIR SALON.
BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE FOUNDATION MAN HAS CONVINCED HIM, AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE, HAS CONVINCED THAT HE'S ALSO GONNA GIMME A REPORT ON THE ONE FOOT TREASURE CHEST.
UH, AND, UM, THE ANDERSON, UH, GROUP IS FAIRLY AWARE OF THAT ONE, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND TRY TO GET THIS THING COMPLETED.
AND CENTER POINT GAS HASN'T MOVED, HASN'T HAD ANY LUCK ON CENTER POINT.
HAS NOT MOVED ON THOSE, ON THOSE LEAVE OUTS THERE? NO, THEY HAVE NOT A MEETING WITH THEM, UH, IN A WEEK.
YEAH, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME LIGHT TO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, GOING, WE WERE HOPING THAT BY THIS WEEK WE WILL BE HAVING LIGHTS ALREADY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE GAS LIGHTS.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL STREETLIGHT, UH, SET POINT STREETLIGHT, AND SO THAT WE CAN DO AWAY WITH ALL THOSE, UH, GENERATORS.
THEY'RE COSTING US TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
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RIGHT.[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.JB UH, TOMORROW'S THE LAST DAY OF EARLY VOTING FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AND ALSO SATURDAY WOULD BE, UH, ELECTION DAY.
THAT'LL BE MAY THE SIXTH FROM 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM 7:00 PM SEVEN 7:00 PM 7:00 PM SEVEN.
AND IS ELECTION DAY THE SAME? IS IT CIVIC CENTER? ELECTION DAY? CIVIC CENTER? LIBRARY.
I'M CHECK THE BOOK OUT, THE LIBRARY ALSO.
I WILL, MATT, I WILL SECOND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, THOSE, THOSE STATEMENTS JB MADE, BUT OTHERWISE, NOTHING TO ADD.
I'M GONNA THIRD THAT STATEMENT.
UH, JUST REAL QUICK, WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, THE CHAMBER AND ALSO THE NEW MINISTER ALLIANCE.
UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, THURSDAY IS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER, AND SO THEY'LL BE IN A, UH, THEY'LL HOLD, UH, NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER AT THE CIVIC CENTER THAT'S ON MAY 4TH, UH, AT NOON.
AND, UH, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA DO IT IN THE PLAZA OR THE BALLROOM, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE, UH, TALKED TO MALLORY ABOUT IT AND MADE A DECISION ON WHICH ONE TO USE.
SO IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
HUH? THE WEATHER, WEATHER PERMITTING OUTSIDE.
IT'S JUST THAT THE PLAZA IS NICE, BUT IT GETS REALLY HOT AND IT'S KIND OF TOUGH ON PEOPLE.
SO, AND WHAT WE JUST MADE IT AVAILABLE FOR 'EM, LET THEM CHOOSE WHICH WAY THEY WANTED TO GO.
UH, ALSO PORT FREEPORT HAS, UH, MAY 6TH, THEY HAVE TAKE THE, UH, CHILD FISHING, WHICH IS ALWAYS A BIG EVENT TOURNAMENT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE, UH, YOU CAN DO.
YOU GUYS KNOW THAT STARTS ON MAY 12TH.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING THIS WEEK.
WE HAVE, UH, BRAZORIA COUNTY DREAM CENTER, UH, IS HAVING THEIR FUNDRAISER, SINGLE DE MAYO FUNDRAISER ON MAY 5TH AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
AND AN S SPCA A IS HAVING ON SATURDAY.
THEIR CRAW DADS FOR A PAUSE DRIVE, AND THAT'S A DRIVE THROUGH AT THE, AT THEIR CENTER.
AND SO DRIVE THROUGH AND GET YOU SOME CRAW DADS.
BUT GO VOTE BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THAT.
UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT, UH, MODESTO STAFF, STAFF, FORMER, ANYBODY? NO, NO NOTHING.