Jun 19, 2023 City Council

UH, WELL WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THIS, UH, MEETING TONIGHT, UH, THE REGULAR SESSION OF LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, 2023, BEGINNING AT SIX 3:00 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

UH, JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ALSO IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH IS NOT HERE BECAUSE OF ILLNESS.

UH, SO, UH, KEEP HER IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILMAN BLANCHARD, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LITURGY AND JUSTICE.

FOR HONOR, HONOR, TEXAS, FLAG A PLEDGE, JESUS DISEASE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

AND IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE INVOCATION, AND AS I BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION, I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT, UH, FOLKS, UH, KEEP IN MIND, UH, IN YOUR PRAYERS, UH, CHIEF, UH, KIDDO'S, FAMILY, UH, HIS FATHER PASSED AWAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON US.

WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR TROOPS AS THEY CONTINUE TO PROTECT US FROM THOSE THAT WANNA TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS. PLEASE PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY LOOK OVER US EVERY DAY.

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE FAMILIES OF OUR TROOPS AND FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY GIVE UP SO MUCH OF THEIR LIVE LOVED ONES TO US, TO PROTECT US EVERY DAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR EMPLOYEES OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.

BE WITH THEM IN THEIR DAILY LIVES AS THEY SERVE THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE WARM HEAT THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO WORK IN.

WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE SERVE OUR CITIZENS, AND THAT YOU LOOK OVER THOSE WE REPRESENT.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

AMEN.

ON TO, UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS VISITORS' COMMENTS.

WE'LL MOVE

[VISITOR COMMENTS]

UH, WE HAVE ONE VISITOR SIGNED UP, MISS YNY.

AND JUST A REMINDER, UH, MISS YY, WE CAN'T MAKE, WE CAN'T MAKE ANY COMMENT, SO IT'S OH, YES.

THANK YOU FOR A FLASHBACK TO MY PAST .

THEY'RE GOING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

, YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO PUT US IN JAIL, SO YOU, YOUR RECOVERING, RECOVERING ATTORNEY.

UM, I WANNA THANK YOU.

I, I'VE COME MOSTLY TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME OVER THE PHONE.

MR. BLANCHARD, I DID NOT CATCH UP WITH YOU.

I THINK MY HUSBAND DID SOMEWHERE AT A CAR SHOW.

UM, BUT I WANNA THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S TIME.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR BEING PUBLIC SERVANTS, FOR RUNNING FOR OFFICE, FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT LIKE JACKSON AND BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP TAKING CARE OF IT, AND YOU HAVE.

SO, UM, I WILL BE BRIEF.

I HAD CALLED, UM, MANY OF YOU BECAUSE I HAD READ IN THE PAPER A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES ON YON STREET.

I WON'T GO INTO THAT IN DETAIL.

I, AS I SAID, I'M GONNA BE BRIEF, BUT I HAD A CONCERN BECAUSE IT IS AN ART ARTERIAL, THE NUMBER OF STREETS, IT'S A MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AREA.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, I NEVER EVEN KNEW THAT I WAS PASSING THREE WATER WELLS MOST OF THE TIME, AND FOUR LIFT STATIONS ALL ON ONE STREET.

AND, AND THEN THE MAJOR UTILITIES, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, THAT, THAT GOES ACROSS YON ALSO TWO SCHOOL ZONES WITH SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS.

SO IT HAS A, A HIGH VOLUME.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND I CALLED YOU AND YOU ALL LISTENED, AND YOU GOT BACK AND YOU SPOKE TO ME, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED IT.

AND I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL.

UM, IN GETTING BACK, UM, THERE WERE JUST A COUPLE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD.

UH, MAYOR, YOU CALLED AND TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS A, UM, SOME, SOME POSSIBILITY OF DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY.

I WANT TO TELL YOU, I, I THANK YOU FIRST BECAUSE WHEN BILL AND I DRIVE AROUND TOWN, SOMETIMES WE'LL DO A FEW, UH, DELIVERIES FOR, UH, A VOLUNTEER, A ONE THING ONCE A MONTH.

AND WE SEE HOW WELL MAINTAINED MANY OF OUR STREETS ARE.

WE KNOW IT'S A CONSTANT PROJECT, AND WE KNOW IT'S ENDLESS THAT IT'LL NEVER STOP.

YOU'LL NEVER HAVE TO STOP REPAIRING ROADS IN THIS TOWN.

BUT I SEE THAT THE PLAN IS WORKING, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERRUPTION BECAUSE OF A PANDEMIC WORLDWIDE , NOT JUST LOCALLY.

SO, IN CONTINUING YOUR PLAN, UM, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT, UM, HAD BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME WAS A, A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA, UH, IS PROBABLY A GREAT TIME FOR AN ASSESSMENT.

THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IN THAT.

AND THEN I WILL LEAVE.

I SEE THAT YOU HAVE COUNTERS ON JOON STREET.

YOU HAVE THEM AS I TURN LEFT FROM OYSTER CREEK DOWN NORTH JOON.

AND THEN COMING UP, UM, COMING UP FROM, UH, 2004.

I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU'RE DOING SOME COUNTING AND COLLECTING DATA THAT YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THEM ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY ROADS THAT INTERSECT YON.

AND IF SOMEBODY'S COMING IN THE MIDDLE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA CATCH THAT CAR IF

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DOES THAT, DOES NOT HAVE ONE OF YOUR COUNTERS.

SO EACH, UM, UH, 2004 AND, AND OYSTER CREEK WOULD NEED 'EM ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD TO TRULY AND FAIRLY COLLECT THE DATA.

AND THEN ONE OTHER THING IN DATA COLLECTION, I'VE DISCOVERED, I, I ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN I SAID BEING A RECOVERING ATTORNEY, I PULLED YOUR LAKE JACKSON TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL, BY THE WAY.

I THINK IT'S AROUND 2007 IF I LOOK AT THE DATES.

BUT SOMETHING STRUCK ME.

IT'S THE VISION STATEMENT THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CLEAR AND OBJECTIVE PROCESS, USING APPROPRIATE AND CLEARLY DEFINED INNOVATIVE TRAFFIC COMIC TECHNIQUES THAT PROMOTE A SMOOTH FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

LAKE JACKSON NEIGHBORHOODS FEEL AND ARE SAFE AT ALL TIMES.

SO CITIZENS CAN PLAY AND WALK THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT IS WHAT I SEE WHEN WE GO THROUGH TOWN.

I SEE MOTHERS, RIGHT? UH, I SEE THEM ON YON, BY THE WAY, CUZ YOU HAVE TWO PARKS ALSO, UH, ON YON.

AND I SEE THEM, THEM PULLING THE LITTLE TENT THAT'S ON WHEELS WITH THE BABY.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER CHILD RIDING BY THEM.

AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED YOUR GOAL.

I SEE IT ON THE SIDE STREETS.

UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO PULL OVER BECAUSE MOM OR DAD IS WITH TWO BICYCLISTS AND THEY CAN STILL RIDE THEIR BIKE.

YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

SO I WOULD ASK IN ANY TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WHOEVER YOU HIRE, AND I'M SAYING TO TODAY, YOU ALL ARE INVESTED IN TECHNOLOGY AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT DON'T LOSE THE HUMAN COMPONENT BECAUSE YOU CAN GATHER A LOT OF INFO.

UH, SHERRY ONE DAY YOU WILL BE A RECOVERING ATTORNEY.

OKAY? I HOPE SO.

MATT, YOU WILL BE, I THINK ALSO, OKAY.

I THINK SO TOO, MR. BRO.

SHE WILL BE ALSO .

BUT SOME OF THE BEST DATA YOU GET IS EYEWITNESS ON THE GROUND, SEEING WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

DON'T FORGET THAT DATA.

AND NOT JUST IN THE FORM OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.

TALK TO PEOPLE AND GET THEIR INPUT AND HAVE IT BE SOMEBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AND INVEST IT.

I DON'T MEAN FINANCIALLY INVESTED.

WELL, MAYBE THAT TOO, IF YOU'RE HIRING THEM, BUT INVESTED IN THE MISSION AND THE VISION STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HOUSTON.

WE'RE NOT AUSTIN, AND WE STILL WANNA BE AN AREA THAT YOU CAN WORK AND PLAY IN.

THIS IS, YOU HAVE UNIQUE FACETS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THEIR, AND IT'S COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.

SO WHAT MAKES IT GREAT? SO I WOULD ASK THAT MAYBE YOU CONSIDER A, UM, A OH GOD, FOR GOD.

SO LOVE THE WORLD.

HE DID NOT SEND A COMMITTEE.

I SAW THAT ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO AT THE LOVE SHOP AT THE MALL, THE FIRST SHOP.

AND I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND A SENSE.

I WISH I COULD, BUT, UM, A BOND TASK FORCE, UM, NOT YOU HAD A BOND TASK FORCE, A TRAFFIC TASK FORCE THAT MAYBE WOULD WORK UNDER OR WITH THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION ON THIS STUDY.

SO YOU WOULD GET CONSTANT FEEDBACK WHERE SOMEBODY COULD SAY, UM, WE'RE HEADED IN A DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH, OR WERE HEADED EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

BUT YOU COULD SO THAT YOU DIDN'T GET A COMPUTERIZED STUDY AT THE END AND NOT GET WHAT YOU WANT.

AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ONE LAST EXAMPLE OF THAT.

I REMEMBER STANDING IN A DOWNTOWN BUILDING IN HOUSTON, CRIMINAL JUSTICE BUILDING, 40 MINUTES.

I WAITED FOR AN ELEVATOR FOR THEIR DESIGN.

40 MINUTES, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE CROWDED IN A HALLWAY.

AND I THOUGHT, OH, I'M GONNA GO UPSTAIRS.

I'LL RUN UP THE STAIRS.

I'M SURE I'LL NEED A DEFIBRILLATOR BY THE TIME I GET TO THE 10TH FLOOR, BUT I'LL MAKE IT, I THINK I CAN STOP ON FIVE.

YOU CAN'T ENTER THE STAIRWELLS.

UM, THEY APPARENTLY OPEN IN A FIRE, BUT NOBODY CAN GO UPSTAIRS.

THE STAIRWELLS PROBABLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, UH, GROUPS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING UP FOR, FOR THEIR CASES AND STUFF, IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD MONITOR.

BUT AT ANY RATE, I THOUGHT, WHO, WHO THOUGHT OF THIS DESIGN? SO IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER.

SOMETIMES IT LOOKS GOOD ON A COMPUTER.

I'LL NEVER FORGET WALKING PART OF THIS TOWN WITH, UH, AN OLD MAN WHO'S AT HOME NOW.

AND, UM, SOMEBODY LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID, NOW THAT STREET DOESN'T COLLECT WATER.

AND HE SAID, YES IT DOES.

AND THEY SAID DOESN'T ON THE COMPUTER, HE SAID, DOES IN REAL LIFE.

SO I'M ASKING YOU WHATEVER TRAFFIC STUDY YOU HAVE TO PLEASE GET THE REAL LIFE INPUT ALSO.

SO IT ISN'T JUST A STUDY THAT YOU'VE GATHERED FROM DATA THAT IS NOT OF PRACTICAL USE.

THAT'S ALL I ASK.

AND I THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.

THANK YOU FOR BEING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANKS A LOT.

RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, PRESENTATIONS.

SORRY ABOUT THE SINKHOLE.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA NAME IT AFTER BILL.

ALL

[PRESENTATIONS]

FIRST PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE BRA SUPPORT, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, TOURISM REPORT.

EDITH.

I WASN'T ABLE TO GET YOU MY PRESENTATION IN ADVANCE, BUT HERE IT'S, SO I'M EDITH FISHER.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM FOR THE BRAS SUPPORT CONVENTION AND VISITORS COUNCIL.

OOPS.

OH, THAT'S THE POINT.

OH, THE POINT THERE.

NO, IS THAT, THAT WAS BACK.

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THERE YOU GO.

SORRY.

UM, WE ARE A DIVISION OF THE BRAZOSPORT AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS YOUR LOCAL CHAMBER.

UH, WE PROMOTE THE AREA AS A LEISURE AND MEETING DESTINATION.

WE CARRY OUT A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WITH OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WE MAKE AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO YOU.

AND I ALSO SUBMIT QUARTERLY REPORTS TO LET YOU KNOW HOW WE SPEND THE, UM, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE CITY.

WE RECEIVE THOSE NOT ONLY FROM LAKE JACKSON, BUT FROM CLOT, UH, FREEPORT AND SURFSIDE BEACH AS WELL.

THESE ARE THE CURRENT PROPERTIES IN LAKE JACKSON THAT WE TRY TO GET OUR VISITORS TO STAY IN.

ONE WAY WE PROMOTE THE AREA IS WORKING WITH OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS.

UM, OUR LOCAL HOTELS AND ATTRACTIONS ARE, UH, NUMBER ONE PARTNERS, UH, THE COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, THE TOURISM DIVISION OF THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, TECH STATS TOURISM DIVISION.

AND THEN AROUND HOUSTON IS A, UH, CO-OP PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH VISIT HOUSTON AND 14 OTHER, UM, COMMUNITIES IN THIS REGION.

WE WORK, UH, MAINLY WITH INTERNATIONAL VISITORS WHO ARE COMING TO HOUSTON.

THEY'RE STAYING HERE FOR A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS.

INSTEAD OF THEM HEADING ON TO DALLAS OR NEW ORLEANS OR ANYWHERE ELSE, WE'D LIKE THEM TO STAY WITHIN THE REGION, SPEND A A WEEK IN HOUSTON, AND THEN A WEEK, UM, UH, WITH THE PARTNERS AROUND HOUSTON.

ANOTHER WAY WE PROMOTE THE AREA IS THROUGH SHOWS AND CONFERENCES.

UM, THE AMERICAN BUS ASSOCIATION, IT WAS A NATIONAL SHOW THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

IT WAS IN TEXAS.

WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, TO DO THAT WITH OUR TEXAS PARTNERS.

THE DESTINATION'S GALORE IS HELD, IS HELD EVERY OTHER YEAR.

IT IS WITH TRIP PLANNERS THAT ARE ABLE TO USE THOSE, UH, HARRIS COUNTY PRECINCT BUSES.

MAYBE YOU'VE SEEN THEM AROUND, RIGHT? THEY'LL COME DOWN, UM, VISIT OUR ATTRACTIONS, HAVE LUNCH, AND THEN HEAD BACK.

IT'S NOT OVERNIGHT BUSINESS, BUT IT'S STILL GETTING THEM, UM, TO OUR AREA.

THE TEXAS TRAVEL ALLIANCE EXPO IS A, UH, APPOINTMENT STYLE SHOW WHERE I HAVE FIVE MINUTES WITH EACH, UM, TEXAS TRAVEL COUNSELOR WHO WORKS AT THE TRAVEL INFORMATION CENTERS THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

UPDATE THEM ON THE AREA.

UH, LAST YEAR WAS THE SECOND YEAR WE DID THE TEXAS STATE FAIR, WHERE WE HAD, UH, DESTINATION DAY.

WE HAD RISE SUPPORT DAY FOR, UM, TWO DAYS.

UH, THAT'S A GREAT SHOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE COMING, UM, INTO TEXAS MOVING HERE.

AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO, UM, GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE RISE SUPPORT AREA TO THOSE PEOPLE.

ANOTHER WAY WE PROMOTE IS THROUGH OUR ADVERTISING AND PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS.

WE HAD EITHER, UH, PAID ADS, EDITORIALS, OR LISTINGS IN THESE PUBLICATIONS.

UM, LAST YEAR WE WERE, UH, GRANTED A CO-OP PARTNERSHIP THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO A, UH, CAMPAIGN ON LONELY PLANET AND CULTURE MAP, UH, WHICH WAS IN ALL THE MAJOR TEXAS MARKETS.

AND I HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE ADS THAT WE DO.

WE ALWAYS INCLUDE, UM, THE CITY IN OUR WEBSITE, OR THE CALL TO ACTION WHERE YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON THE WEBSITE IF IT'S A DIGITAL AD.

OUR WEBSITE LAST YEAR HAD OVER 110,000 PAGE VIEWS.

ONCE PEOPLE GET TO THE WEBSITE, THEIR, UM, TOP PAGE THEY VISIT IS OUR BEACHES FOLLOWED BY FISHING.

UM, THE WEBSITE USERS ARE FROM HOUSTON, WHICH IS OUR TOP MARKET, FOLLOWED BY THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE STATION.

AND THEN WE GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC, A LOT OF REFERRALS FROM FACEBOOK AND VISIT HOUSTON TEXAS.COM, WHICH I THINK IS A RESULT OF OUR AROUND HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP.

UM, 365 THINGS IN HOUSTON.

AND THEN CULTURE MAP.

WE DID A CAMPAIGN WITH THE, UH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE LAST YEAR.

AND SO, UM, WE WERE FINALLY HAD ENOUGH FUNDING LAST YEAR TO, TO PAY FOR THAT.

SO LAST YEAR WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO HOST A, UM, TECH.STUDY, TOUR TECH DOT PUTS ON A TOUR FOR THEIR TRAVEL INFORMATION, UM, CENTER EMPLOYEES.

EVERY YEAR THEY PICK A DIFFERENT REGION OF THE STATE.

LAST YEAR, THEY PICKED JUST THE HOUSTON AREA.

UM, SO WE HAD 22, UH, TRAVEL PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALS FROM THE, UH, TRAVEL INFORMATION CENTERS FROM TEXAS HIGHWAYS, PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

UM, THE STUDY INCLUDED HOUSTON, THE WOODLANDS, CONROE, PEARL LAND, AND THEN OUR AREA.

WHILE THEY WERE HERE, I HAD THEM AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND SCIENCES SEA CENTER, THE BRAZORIA WILDLIFE REFUGE, THE FREEPORT MUSEUM, SAN LOUIS PASS, FORT VELASCO REPLICA, AND THE SURFSIDE BUD BIRD AND BUTTERFLY TRAIL.

UM, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THEM EVERYWHERE.

WE ONLY HAD THEM FOR ONE DAY, UH, BEFORE THEY HAD TO HEAD ON TO PEARLAND.

UH, SO WE WERE, WE HAD TO CUT SOME OF OUR, UM, VISITS SHORT, BUT WHILE THEY WERE HERE, THEY STAYED AT CANDLEWOOD.

THEY ATE AT THE LOCAL TABLE OF GRACE AND SEAHORSE.

AT THE END OF THE TOUR, THEY VOTE ON THEIR FAVORITES, AND THEY AWARDED TABLE OF GRACE AND INCLUDE AS THEIR FAVORITE PLACE FOR BREAKFAST AND SEAHORSE AND SURFSIDE AS THEIR FAVORITE PLACE FOR LUNCH.

UH, I THINK THEY, I KNOW THEY LOVED THE LOCAL, BUT THEY VOTED, UM, KILLS IN PEARLAND AS THEIR FAVORITE, FAVORITE DINNER.

SO, UM, ALSO LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE AND REPRINT OUR VISITORS' BROCHURE.

WE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF FUNDS.

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WE HOSTED OUR ANNUAL LODGING AND ATTRACTIONS MEETING.

UM, THIS YEAR, IN ADDITION TO OUR MEETING, WE'D LIKE TO GET THEM BACK ON A FAM TOUR OF THE AREA.

AND THIS IS FOR OUR LOCAL HOTEL, FRONT DESK CLERKS.

IT'S IMPORTANT THEY KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA.

SINCE THEY'RE THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT WITH, UM, VISITORS.

WE WERE ABLE TO APPLY AND GET, UH, GRANT FUNDS FOR A CO-OP ADVERTISING PROGRAM WITH OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR.

AND THEN WE DID LOTS OF PARTNER EVENTS, UM, C CENTER.

WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THE, UH, RETIREMENT LUNCHEON FOR THEIR, UM, DIRECTOR DAVID ABREGO.

WE DID THE LEVI JORDAN, UH, VISITOR CENTER OPENING THE FREEPORT MUSEUM, THEIR TEXAS NAVY DAY.

A LOT OF EVENTS AT THE WILDLIFE REFUGES, UM, AND WORKED WITH FREEPORT MAIN STREET PROGRAM, WHICH THEY WERE AWARDED LAST YEAR.

SO LAST YEAR SPENDING WAS UP, UH, VISITOR SPENDING WAS UP IN LAKE JACKSON, 17% COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEAR, WHICH WAS, UM, UP FROM 2020.

CAUSE WE DIDN'T, THERE WAS NOTHING HAPPENING IN 2020.

SAME WITH THE TAX RECEIPTS.

AND THEN COMPARED TO BRAZORIA COUNTY, UM, THE SPENDING WAS, UH, STILL UP COMPARED TO BRAZO COUNTY.

BUT THE TAX RECEIPTS FOR THE COUNTY WERE FLAT.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHAMBER.

WE ARE A PART OF THE CHAMBER.

THE CHAMBER HAS OVER 700 MEMBERS FROM A VARIETY OF, UH, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS.

WE PROVIDE UNIFIED, UH, SUPPORT AND PROMOTION FOR THE ENTIRE BRAS SUPPORT AREA.

THIS IS ONE MARKET AREA.

WE WORK WITH OUR LOCAL INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT TO, UH, BOOST GROWTH.

AND WE, UM, SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH RESOLUTIONS AND LETTERS AND TESTIMONIES FROM OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE CHAMBER STAFF.

AND THEN WE ALSO FACILITATE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH THE EIGHT, UM, AREA CITY MANAGERS AND MAYORS, UM, TO DISCUSS MUNICIPAL ACTIVITIES AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

UH, THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR TO DO OUR SHOP LOCAL WEEKEND, WHICH IS THIS COMING WEEKEND.

I WANNA, UH, TALK ABOUT IT BRIEFLY.

UH, THIS HELPS NOT ONLY OUR LOCAL MEMBERS, BUT CONSUMERS AS WELL.

UM, ON THIS FRIDAY, PEOPLE CAN STOP BY THE CHAMBER, PICK UP A LIST OF CHAMBER MEMBERS, HAVE BREAKFAST, GET A SHOPPING BAG, THEN THEY GO AND SHOP FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.

THEY TURN IN THE, THEIR RECEIPTS, UM, TO US ON MONDAY ON AT NOON.

UM, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SHOP AT THE, AT HEB AT OUR GROCERY STORE.

THEY CAN GET THEIR TIRES ROTATED, THEY CAN PAY THEIR INSURANCE BILL AS LONG AS IT'S WITH THE CHAMBER MEMBER, THEY CAN TURN IN THAT RECEIPT.

AND THEN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, A THOUSAND DOLLARS CASH GIVEAWAY THAT WE'LL DRAW FOR ON TUESDAY.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER ANOTHER YEAR.

AND THEN I HAVE A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION AND OUR MARKETING PLAN AND SOME OF OUR, UM, BROCHURES THAT WE GIVE OUT.

AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY LARGE GROUPS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON SEEING THIS COME THROUGH THIS YET THIS YEAR? A LARGE GROUP OF, YEAH.

I MEAN, STATE OR WHOEVER THAT YOUR OTHER GROUPS THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

UM, THIS YEAR SO FAR, WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE HAD TWO.

I'VE HAD SOME, UH, HISTORICAL COMMISSION PEOPLE THAT HAD A MEETING OUT AT WARNER HOG.

AND THEN, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SPORTS GROUPS THAT COME IN THAT WE JUST REFER THE HOTELS TO.

SO FAR, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY WANT, UH, THEIR MEETING RIGHT NEXT TO THE, THEY WANT THEIR HOTEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, SO THEY, FOR CONVENTION CENTER, HOTEL TYPE SETUP.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.

YEAH, SO THANK YOU.

IT'S, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATED.

AGAIN, THANKS.

UH, THANKS FOR ALL Y'ALL DO TO PROMOTE, UH, OUR CITY AND OUR AREA.

AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT Y'ALL, UH, ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE H O T FUNDS THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED FROM THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

UH, MOVE ON TO PRESENTATION NUMBER TWO.

THIS IS THE, UH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, UH, FILM FRIENDLY CERTIFICATE, LAURA MARIE, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN MEMBERS.

UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE RECENTLY, I SAY RECENTLY, I'M SAYING WITHIN THE LAST 24 MONTHS, UM, APPROVED FILM FRIENDLY GUIDELINES.

AND SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO PROMOTE, UH, LAKE JACKSON AS A DESTINATION.

AND AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE GABRIEL ORELLI FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

WE'RE FILM FRIENDLY HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE ARE WORKING FILM FRIENDLY TO BRING PRODUCTION TO THE CITY AND WORK ON THAT LONG-TERM STRATEGY TO MAKE OURSELVES A TOURIST DESTINATION.

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COUNCIL MEMBER, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS GABRIEL LORENESS.

I'M A PRODUCTION CONSULTANT AND, UH, COMMUNITY RELATIONS LIAISON WITH THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION.

UM, AND SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

I'M, IM HAPPY TO BE HERE.

AND JUST TO TAKE A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME.

UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT WITH REGARDS AND RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON WITH REGARDS TO THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, UH, ON BECOMING FILM FRIENDLY CERTIFIED.

UH, WE WANT TO THANK LAURA MARIE BERNARD WITH REGARDS TO ALL HER WORK, UM, THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, AND BUSINESS LEADERS THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE AND, AND GETTING THE CERTIFICATION.

UM, SO AS, AS BEING A FILM FRIENDLY TEXAS CITY, YOU JOIN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE, STATE, HAVE THAT HAVE POSITIONED YOURSELVES, UH, TO BE PREPARED AND TO PROVIDE MEDIA PRODUCTIONS WITH AN INCREASE IN ASSURANCE THAT LAKE JACKSON IS INDUSTRY SAVVY, UH, AND SERIOUS ABOUT WELCOMING PRODUCTION BUSINESS TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT YOU'RE PREPARED AND HAVE, HAVE ACCOMMODATED ON LOCATION FILMING ACTIVITIES AND LOOKING FORWARD TOWARDS THAT AS FAR AS WHETHER IT BE COMMERCIAL OR FILM, AND DIFFERENT VARIETY OF PRODUCTIONS MATCHING LAKE JACKSON BUSINESSES WITH MEDIA PRODUCTION RELATED NEEDS AND THE SERVICES.

UH, IT'S AN ECONOMIC TOOL, UM, AND IT'S A LOCAL TOOL AS FAR AS PEOPLE INVESTING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THE PRODUCTIONS FILM FRIENDLY TEXAS CERTIFICATION IS ANOTHER AVENUE TO CREATE JOBS FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND BRING PRODUCTION AND INVESTMENT INTO LAKE JACKSON.

THEY'RE SPENDING ON LOCAL GOODS SUCH AS SERVICES, INCLUDING CATERING, DRY CLEANING, UH, REALLY SPENDING MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE SERVICES AND, AND, UH, SUPPLIES THAT PRODUCTIONS WILL NEED.

PLUS, IT'S THE INTANGIBLE OF PROMOTING LAKE JACKSON AS A, AS A DESTINATION TO VISIT.

THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION IS A DIVISION OF THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR'S, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM.

WE WERE CREATED IN 1971, AND OUR MISSION IS TO PROMOTE TEXAS AS A PREMIER MEDIA PRODUCTION.

DESTINATION.

FILM FRIENDLY IS A STATEWIDE NETWORK OF COMMUNITIES AND EXEMPLIFIES COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS AT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UM, SUCH AS YOURSELVES HAVE, HAVE TAKEN THE MEDIA PRODUCTION FRIENDLY DESTINATION.

AND IT'S, AND YOUR WORK SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT COMMUNITIES ACROSS TEXAS ARE READY TO WELCOME AND WORK TOGETHER WITH MEDIA PRODUCTIONS AND IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY.

BETWEEN 2007 AND 2022 THROUGH THE MOVING INDUSTRY INCENTIVE, UH, PROGRAM, THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION ATTRACTED 1.95 BILLION IN LOCAL SPENDING AND CREATED MORE THAN 183,000 PRODUCTION JOBS ACROSS THE STATE.

THE STATEWIDE ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE HELP OF OVER 170 COMMUNITIES, SUCH AS YOURSELVES THAT ARE FILM FRIENDLY, CERTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UM, LAKE JACKSON, THE CITY OF ENCHANTMENT, ALONG WITH YOUR DISTINCTIVE MAIN STREET BUSINESSES, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS THAT EVERYBODY CAME TOGETHER TO, TO CREATE THIS DESTINATION AND CERTIFICATION.

UH, YOU ARE, YOU HAVE PREPARED YOURSELVES AND TO WELCOME NEW PRODUCTIONS AND COMING MOVING FORWARD.

SO, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER.

AND, AND WE ARE HERE AS A RESOURCE AND, AND JUST IN COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOURSELVES.

EACH COMMUNITY THAT GETS, THAT GOES THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.

WE, WE NOT ONLY PRESENT THEM WITH THE CERTIFICATE, BUT WE, WE DO SOME SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THEM, WE PUT 'EM ON THE WEBSITE, WE DO PRESS RELEASES, AND THEN WE OFFER A VARIETY OF RESOURCES AND MOVING FORWARD.

AND JUST, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO WORK WITH YOURSELVES TOGETHER TO BRING PRODUCTION TO YOUR COMMUNITIES AND, AND SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND, AND CELEBRATE LAKE JACKSON.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, MIKE, THANK YOU.

I GOTTA GIVE FOR A PICTURE.

TO SHAKE YOUR HAND AGAIN.

HOLD 30.

FANTASTIC.

SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? NEXT STEP IS HOW WE GET THE NEXT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, MOVIE HERE.

WELL, IT, IT'S, THANK SAY JOHN WAYNE ABOUT DATING.

WE ACTUALLY ABOUT THAT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

UM, I THINK SAY, FEW THINKS ABOUT THAT.

PLEASE.

UM, ACTUALLY, GABRIELLE AND I DID TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU GUYS WERE WALKING THROUGH.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE ASKED ME IMMEDIATELY ABOUT WAS A FILM, WAS A FILM FESTIVAL.

AND I DID MENTION TO HIM SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT I HAD.

AND LO AND BEHOLD, HE HAS JUDGES THAT WE CAN GET FROM ALL OVER THE STATE.

HE'S WILLING TO BE A JUDGE.

UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MUSIC FRIENDLY, WHICH IS ANOTHER AREA THAT I NOT READY TO REALLY BRING TO YOU GUYS, BUT IT'S AN AREA THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

AND, UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH, UM, CULTURAL ARTS

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HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS AND COLLABORATING WITH OTHER CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS HERE.

UM, SO ULTIMATELY WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING QUITE A BIT MORE.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID HAVE AN ADVERTISING, A NATIONAL ADVERTISER WHO WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE AND HE WANTED TO, THEY WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR A MID-CENTURY HOME.

YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T REMEMBER THIS, BUT I OFFERED MODESTO'S HOUSE AND I OFFERED THE MAYOR'S HOUSE.

IT'S GONNA COST ME A LOT OF MONEY.

ACCORDING TO YOUR WIFE.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO MY WIFE.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHY MODESTO COULDN'T DO IT.

I, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHY.

I DON'T THINK THEY LIKED THE DOGS.

THE DOGS.

IT WAS THE DOGS.

UM, SO THEY ENDED UP GETTING A HOME DOWN IN FREEPORT.

BUT, UM, AND WE DID HAVE A, DID TALK WITH ANOTHER LOCATION SCOUT SINCE WE'VE BECOME FILM FRIENDLY AND I CAN'T, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE BACK AND I JUST CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT AT THIS POINT.

SO WE'VE HAD TWO.

UM, BUT THIS IS A LONG-TERM THING THAT YOU DO.

YOU DON'T JUST EXPECT HOLLYWOOD TO SHOW UP AT YOUR DOOR THE LAST MINUTE, EVEN IF TAYLOR SHERIDAN IS GONNA BE DOING HIS SHOWS HERE IN TEXAS.

BUT I DIGRESS.

WELL, HOLLYWOOD'S GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER CUZ IT'S GETTING BASTROP, TEXAS NOW.

SO, YES.

ANYTHING, UM, JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN AS THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

AND WE ARE HERE AS A RESOURCES, AS A RESOURCE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH LAURA MARIE AND JUST, UM, SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT THEN WE HAVE, UH, ITEM THREE IS WE HAVE THE T A M I O AWARDS.

LAURIE MARIE.

SO, UM, I DIDN'T BRING THEM YOU DIDN'T BRING THEM, HUH? YOU DIDN'T BRING THE AWARDS UHOH THERE.

CAN YOU GO TO MODESTO'S OFFICE AND GET THEM? OKAY.

UM, RECENTLY, UH, I DID ATTEND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION AND MUNICIPAL INFORMATION OFFICERS CONVENTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY A SUBGROUP AT THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE.

UM, THERE'S COMPETITION THAT THEY HAVE EVERY YEAR.

YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR THAT WE WON BEST ONE PERSON SHOP IN TEXAS.

UM, THIS YEAR THERE ARE TWO OTHER AWARDS THAT WE WON THAT I THINK ARE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT ONE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE STRUCTURED.

THE FIRST ONE IS REOCCURRING SPECIAL EVENTS, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS MARKETING.

THE MOST CREATIVE USE WITH LEAST LEASE DOLLARS, UM, IN THE ONE PERSON SHOW.

YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE JUST COMPETING WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ONE PERSON PROGRAMS, BUT IN THIS ONE, THESE TWO AWARDS WERE OPEN, WHICH MEANT THAT WE, YES, THAT'S IT.

SPEAKS TO, UH, AGAIN, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING SINCE YOU CAME ON BOARD, BUT ALSO THE WORK THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE PULLED TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN ALSO.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE UP TO THEM AND LET THEM LOOK AT IT, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

UM, THE WAY THAT THESE TWO ARE STRUCTURED IS OPEN, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYONE FROM ZERO POPULATION TO 200,000 AND ABOVE WE'RE ALL COMPETING TOGETHER.

AND SO, IN REOCCURRING SPECIAL EVENTS, I ENTERED OUR HOLIDAYS IN LAKE JACKSON, WHICH IS BASICALLY FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS AND LIGHT UP LAKE JACKSON.

AND WE WON THE AWARD OF HONOR, WHICH IS BASICALLY THIRD PLACE WE LOST TO CARROLLTON, MOST OF YOU KNOW, IS A CITY THAT HAS PROBABLY OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN IT.

AND THEY HAD A 12 YEAR FESTIVAL THAT THEY DO AT THE SWITCH YARD, BUT THEY HAVE A STAFF OF ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN, AND THEY WIN IN ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY WITH THAT.

SO TO BE THIRD IN THAT CATEGORY WAS REALLY AWESOME.

AND THE REASON THAT I WAS REALLY HAPPY THAT WE WON IN THAT ONE IS BECAUSE I WANTED YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS REALLY DOES, UM, HAVE AN IMPACT AND PEOPLE DO NOTICE IT.

SO YOU CAN LITERALLY SAY THAT THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS NOW IS AN STATE AND NATIONAL RECOGNIZED EVENT THAT HAS BE, BEEN AWARD-WINNING, THE SECOND AWARD WITH MARKETING.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED, UH, THE POSI THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PROGRAM, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAS PUT TOWARDS IT.

SO WE REALLY RELIED A LOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE RELIED A LOT ON, UM, FLYERS THAT MILFORD AND I WOULD TAKE TO TO EVERYONE IN DOWNTOWN TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS AND LIGHT UP LAKE JACKSON.

SO, UM, TO WIN IN THAT AT THE SAME TIME, SAME WITH THE SAME STRUCTURE, AND TO BE THE THIRD PLACE IN IT, TO ME, WAS A TESTAMENT TO THE FACT THAT EVEN WITH VERY LITTLE, AND WITH THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT.

AND SO I JUST WANT THOUGHT THE COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING A LOT WITH VERY LITTLE WHEN IT COMES TO HOLIDAYS IN LAKE JACKSON.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT WAS REALLY, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO COME HOME WITH THAT.

I WAS REALLY PROUD TO COME HOME WITH THAT ONE.

SO, AND IF YOU EVER WANNA SEE THEM, THEY'RE IN MODESTO'S OFFICE.

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SO YES, FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS IS REALLY A CITY, CITY, IT'S A CITY AWARD.

I'M ON THE AGENDA AS DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND, UH, THE MARKETING HAS BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH MALLORY AND MILFORD AND, YOU KNOW, OVER IN, YOU KNOW, JUSTIN OVER WITH ROBIN AND EVERYBODY, AND ANYTIME WE ASK ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO HELP WITH IT, THEY'RE READY TO DO IT.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS COMING YEAR.

[DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST]

THIS IS WHERE ANY MEMBER ON CITY COUNCIL, UH, CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM.

IT'S EITHER ON THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE A CONFLICT TO DECLARE? I'M GONNA DECLARE A, A POTENTIAL CONFLICT IN, UM, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM PARTICIPATION IN REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND TWO RELATED TO THE CITY'S APPOINTMENT OF, UH, BWA REPRESENTATIVE IN LIGHT OF MY EMPLOYMENT AT DOW CHEMICAL AND THE, THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS RECENTLY GIVEN TO US ABOUT THEIR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, AND I'M NOT WORKING THAT, THAT PROJECT FROM THE DOW SIDE EITHER.

SO I JUST WANNA, WANNA MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T ANY ARGUMENT THAT I'M PUTTING MY FINGER ON THAT SCALE ON BEHALF OF.

UH, OKAY.

AND SO I, I FILED THE REQUISITE PAPERWORK, THE CITY, CITY SECRETARY HAS IT, AND, UH, I WON'T BE PARTICIPATING IN ONE AND TWO.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH,

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM ONE, APPROVE, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JUNE 5TH, 2023.

ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES PLANNERS, UH, LAKE JACKSON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND LAKE JACKSON HISTORICAL MUSEUM.

ITEM THREE IS ACCEPT LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM KEEP LAKE JACKSON.

UH, BEAUTIFUL MEMBER CORRINE CAMARATA.

I GUESS THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

AWARD CONTRACT FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, TO TML HEALTH.

ITEM FIVE IS AWARD A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR THE ANNUAL, UH, ELECTRICIAN SERVICE SERVICES TO BRAZOS PORT ELECTRIC WITH AN HOURLY, UH, SERVICE CALL RATE OF $80 PER HOUR.

ITEM SIX IS APPOINT, UH, CHRISTIAN, UH, MAYORS TO THE, UH, YOUTH UH, ADVISORY COMMISSION.

AND ITEM SEVEN IS APPROVED THE REQUEST FOR CLOSURE ON THE OUTER NORTHBOUND LANE OF DIXIE DRIVE ALONG SLADE FIELD PARKING LOT FROM THE LIGHT AT BRAZOS WOOD DRIVE TO THE FIRST ENTRANCES ENTRANCE AT THE BRASSWOOD NINTH GRADE, UH, ROAD ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2023 FROM 7:15 AM TO 10:00 AM FOR THE B I S D 5K RUN.

AGAIN, THAT'S A REPEAT EVENT.

UH, IS THERE ANY REQUEST FROM COUNSEL TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN WE REMOVE FORWARD JUST TO ADD THAT CAVEAT? SURE.

ANNUALLY.

YEAH, PLEASE.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ITEM FOUR TO REGULAR AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'RE GOING TO.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL, UH, IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER, UH, OTHER ITEMS TO MOVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ONE, TWO, AND 3, 5, 6, AND SEVEN AS WRITTEN.

HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN UH, BLANCHARD.

I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BRODIS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

TO, UH, THE NEW REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM FOUR FROM THE CON, UH, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS AWARD CONTRACT TO, FOR HEALTH INSURANCE TO TML, UH, HEALTH.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[4. Award contract for health insurance to TML Health.]

IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, I KNOW WE HAVE TO GO WITH TML.

THAT'S THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO OUR RFQ.

IF Y'ALL ARE LIKE ME, I'M SURE YOU SHOP FOR INSURANCE EVERY CHANCE YOUR STUFF GETS RENEWED TO TRY AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN GET FOR THE BEST RATE.

IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, CAN WE JUST ADD THE CAVEAT THAT WE WILL ACCEPT TML THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO DO AN RFQ ANNUALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST RATE WE CAN FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO I DON'T PUT IT IN THE RECORD.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT, UH, JOSE SAID THAT HE DO.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T PUT IT EVERY YEAH.

THE HE DID FOR US TO GET US A BETTER RATE TO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE RECORD.

SO THIS WILL PUT IT ON, UH, OFFICIAL RECORD THAT, UH, WE AGREED TO, UH, DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION.

CONTRACT FOR TML HEALTH INSURANCE.

IF THAT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AWARD THE

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I AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR HEALTH INSURANCE TO TML HEALTH WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE WILL GO OUT FOR AN RFQ ANNUALLY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND FROM COUNCILMAN BLANCHARD, AND I'LL NEED A SECOND MOVE FORWARD.

I'LL SECOND IT.

HAVE A, UH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN, UH, BROAD US ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, YES, I DO.

I MEAN, WE NORMALLY DON'T DO THAT.

I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING UNIQUE BECAUSE EVERY, I MEAN, IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT EVERY RFQ IS DONE EVERY YEAR AND BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO, I MEAN, SHOULD WE BE ADDING THAT TO EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, BUT THE, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH.

BUT THE, THE, WE HAVE NOT DONE AN RFQ FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS ON INSURANCE.

THAT CORRECT.

MODESTO? IT'S PROBABLY THE LAST TIME WE DID AN RFQ WAS, AND MAYBE 2000 OR BEFORE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

UM, I, I MEAN, I AGREE.

WE AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO ONE NEXT YEAR.

I THINK IF WE DO ONE, TWO OR THREE YEARS IN A, WE DON'T GET A RESPONSE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE A, A SMALL BREAK.

AND, UM, SO, BUT WE'LL JUST TEST THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, I THINK OVER TIME, IF WE HAD, IF WE DO AN RFQ AND WE SWITCH, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO STAY WITH THAT FIRM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THEY WOULD, I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD START TO GET A LITTLE ANTSY IF WE STARTED JUST JUMPING, IF WE DID IT EVERY YEAR.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE RIGHT NOW SINCE WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE THIS YEAR FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO AT LEAST TRY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO SEE IF WE CAN SHAKE THE TREE AND, UH, DRUM UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER RESPONSE.

I THINK REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE HESITATION THIS YEAR WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME HIGH, HIGH CLAIMS. UM, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NEVER BAD TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL AND PREPARE AND WE ARE PREPARED FOR IT.

UM, SO, UM, I THINK AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR WE SHOULD TRY AGAIN.

BUT ARE WE UPDATED ON EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON? AND IF WOULD I UP, IF WE HAVE ACCIDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT DRIVE OUR RATES UP, IT'S NOT ACCIDENT.

IT'S A DRIVE OUR RATE.

THESE, THIS IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE PORTION.

SO IT'S JUST CLAIM HEALTH, HEALTH CLAIMS. WELL, HEALTH CLAIMS THAT DRIVE THAT.

AND SO USUALLY WHEN WE GO OUT FOR A R F Q, THE, UM, THE BUSINESS WANTS TO SEE LIKE THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS OF CLAIMS. AND THEN THEY LOOK AT LARGE CLAIMS. AND WE'VE HAD TWO, YOU KNOW, TWO EXTRAORDINARY LARGE CLAIM YEARS.

UM, HAD WE GONE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER RATE WHEN WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A LOWER, WHAT WAS THAT DUE? MAYBE DUE LOWER HISTORY OF CLAIMS? I'M SORRY? MAYBE DUE TO COVID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, NOTHING DUE TO COVID.

UM, IT'S JUST, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SMALL WORKFORCE AND IT ONLY TAKES ONE OR TWO TO, YOU KNOW, UPSET THE, THE APPLE CART.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S GOOD PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DO IT FOR AT LEAST NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN WE WILL RE YOU KNOW, REASSESS AGAIN AND SEE.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS THE REQUIREMENT THAT ANYTHING OVER CERTAIN EXPENDITURE THAT WE ALWAYS WENT FOR WAS REQUIRED THAT WE WENT FOR RFQ, NOT FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.

HEALTH INSURANCE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TO DO AN RFQ EVERY OR AN RFP EVERY YEAR.

IT'S, YOU CAN, WE CAN DO AN RFP AND THEN HAVE THAT COMPANY FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, UNLESS IT'S RIGHT HEALTH INSURANCE, THERE ARE CERTAIN SPECIALTIES WHERE YOU, YOU NEGOTIATE RATHER THAN DO THE RFP AND THE RFQ LIKE LAWYERS AND ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AND STUFF.

SO THERE'S JUST A LITTLE EXCEPTIONS, BUT WHAT MODESTO IS SAYING, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE GET SOMETHING REALLY GOOD NEXT YEAR, WE'RE NOT GONNA WANNA GET RID OF THEM.

BUT IF IT'S THE SAME OLD STUFF.

SO BASICALLY IF WE GET A GOOD POLICY EVERY YEAR, WE CAN BE FLIP FLOPPING EVERY YEAR.

UM, IF YOU PUT IT ON AUTOPILOT, THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN, THAT THAT COULD MAKE IT.

BUT I GUESS VOTE.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A DISCUSSION ONCE WE GET THE HEALTH INSURANCE.

IF WE, IF IF WE SWITCH TO, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, A, A BETTER RATE THAN COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT RATE THAT RIGHT.

WHEN WE SEE THE INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, INCREASE.

UM, WHAT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT IS WE USUALLY TRY TO DO AN RFP IN APRIL TO GET RATES.

WE USUALLY, UH, UH, SO YOU CAN SCHEDULE A POSSIBLE TRANSFER TRANSFER OVER, CUZ IT TAKES MONTHS TO TRANSFER OVER FOR AN OCTOBER ONE, UM, START DATE, UH, FOR RE RATES.

WE DON'T GET OUR RE-RATE UNTIL THIS TIME THIS YEAR.

SO IT PUTS US A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, YOU KNOW, THE EIGHT BALL FOR, UH, FOR JANET, BUT IT CAN'T BE DONE.

NO, I AGREE WITH ADDING THAT BECAUSE I, THE WORD USUALLY

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BOTHERS ME.

YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU DO IT OR YOU DON'T DO IT.

YOU, YOU USUALLY, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE KIND OF WORDS IN THE DISCUSSION, IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EITHER WE DO SOMETHING EVERY TIME OR WE DON'T DO IT EVERY TIME, BUT USUALLY DO.

IT IS THOUGH.

I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT.

SO, WELL, AGAIN, I THINK THAT PART OF THE, THE, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT GOES, UH, ON IF YOU GO OUT FOR A, UH, BID OR NOT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST YEAR.

AND IF YOU'VE HAD TWO, TWO DEATHS FILED AGAINST YOUR INSURANCE IN, IN THE PAST TWO IN THE PAST YEAR, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO GO.

UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A SMALL POOL.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND SO THAT'S, SO THERE, THAT'S WHY THERE IS A DISCRETION OF, OF GOING OR, OR NOT, UH, AND STUFF.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS IS, AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO, BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOING EVERY YEAR FOR, UH, OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE TO GO SEE IF YOU CAN FIND BETTER INSURANCE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT YOU LIKE A FICA SCORE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR GOING TOO OFTEN TO, TO GO, UH, OUT FOR THAT FORBID.

SO MEDICAL IS, IS DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE REST OF THE, UH, UH, PROCESSES I SHOULD SAY.

SO I UNDERSTAND I CAN AT LEAST MAKE THIS COMMITMENT THAT WE CAN REVIEW IN THE FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, WITH COUNSEL, THE CLAIMS AND IF YOU BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT TO GO, YOU KNOW, FOR RFQ, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR, THIS NEXT YEAR WE AUTOMATICALLY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL.

BUT THEN AFTER THAT WE CAN REVIEW EVERY YEAR WITH COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT OUR CLAIMS ARE AND, AND WE CAN ADVISE WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR IT.

OR IT MAY NOT BE A, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST YEAR, BUT COUNCIL STILL MAKES THAT DECISION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT US TO GO OUT AND SEEK PROPOSALS AND, AND WE DON'T, EVEN IF WE GET PROPOSALS BACK, WE DON'T HAVE TO SWITCH COMPANIES EVERY YEAR.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE JUST LITERALLY GOING OUT FOR PROPOSALS TO SEE IF WE'RE GETTING THE BEST RATE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO, UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

MOVE ON TO, UH, REGULAR AGENDA.

WE'LL

[1. Interview candidate(s) to represent Lake Jackson on the Brazosport Water Authority Board of Directors – Modesto Mundo.]

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ON YOUR AGENDA AND THAT'S INTERVIEWED CANDIDATES, UH, TO REPRESENT LAKE JACKSON ON THE BRA PORT WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS MODESTO.

UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, MR. LONGORIA, OUR LONGSTANDING REPRESENTATIVE OF OVER 30 YEARS, UH, HAD TO STEP DOWN.

UM, AND, UM, WITH THAT, WE, UM, HAVE TRIED TO KICK THE TIRES A LITTLE BIT, UM, TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY INTERESTED, UH, CANDIDATES.

MR. LONGORIA, UM, UM, HAD RECOMMEND HAS RECOMMENDED ONE CANDIDATE NIGHT BEFORE YOU, AND I THINK, UH, MR. BLANCHARD HAS ALSO REACHED OUT, UH, TO ANOTHER MEMBER THAT'S, UH, EXPRESSED INTEREST.

UH, SO TONIGHT YOU CAN INTERVIEW THOSE CANDIDATES.

I DID TALK TO MR. WOODARD.

THERE'S, UM, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S OTHER CANDIDATES THAT YOU WANT TO WISH, UH, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME.

THEY'VE ALREADY HAVE GONE THROUGH THEIR BUDGET PROCESS, SO THEY'RE NOT ABSOLUTELY THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE, UH, SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, DURING, SOMETIME DURING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SUMMER.

UM, UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THEIR BOARD IS, IS FULL EXCEPT FOR THE ONE ABSENCE FOR MR. LONGORIA.

UH, SO MR. COOK, ARE YOU HERE? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'D STEP UP, PLEASE.

AND WE HAVE YOUR, UH, INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO, UH, REVISIT HISTORY.

WELL, NO, AS FAR AS YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF.

OH, OKAY.

GOT, THAT'S ALREADY IN RECORD, SO THAT'S FINE.

ALSO, THE ROSE GUY.

CONTRACT WAS DURING THE DROUGHT HERE.

, YES.

THEY TAKE CARE OF THE ROSES COMING IN TO TIMBER CREEK DRIVE, SO OH, OKAY.

WITH MY WIFE AND ONE OF HER FRIENDS.

I'M JUST A HIRED HAND, JUST A HIRED HAND , PAY OUT AS MUCH FOR THAT AS I COULD.

PROBABLY THIS JOB, .

SO WHAT, WHAT CAN I HELP YOU WITH? WELL, JUST GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND.

AND I, I, I WORKED WITH DOW FOR REALLY MY ONLY FULL-TIME JOB WAS WITH DOW.

STARTED IN, IN THE SIXTIES, WENT BACK TO GRAD SCHOOL, FINISHED MY, UH, PHD AT UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO, AND THEN, UH, WORKED WITH DOW EVER SINCE 20 YEARS IN MIDLAND.

AND, UH, ANOTHER, UH, 14 YEARS HERE FULL-TIME.

AND THEN REALLY ANOTHER SIX YEARS IN CONTRACT.

NOW, A COUPLE OF THOSE YEARS, ALMOST TWO AND A HALF ON

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SO THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF GOT FAMILIAR WITH, UH, WITH, UH, JUAN.

AND, UH, OF COURSE WORKED WITH MR. FINLEY VERY CLOSELY.

WE WERE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND I SPEARHEADED THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, UH, WATER USE REDUCTION.

THEY HAD GONE THROUGH A GREAT BIG MATRIX OF POSSIBILITIES, RIGHT.

HAD BOILED IT DOWN TO A HANDFUL.

AND AT THAT POINT THERE WERE IDEAS.

SO THE CHALLENGE WAS TO GET FROM IDEAS TO GETTING, UH, GETTING IT ON THE, ON THE GROUND.

AND IT INVOLVED MANY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.

SO I KIND OF COORDINATED THAT OVER THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS OR SO.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A REAL CONCISE, UH, SYNOPSIS.

UH, I, I THINK ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MAYBE JUAN, I THINK JUAN HAD A, A PERSONAL PASSION.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE IT CAME FROM FOR ONE TO DO SOME THINGS IN THE WATER ARENA.

AND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I'M A 30 YEAR RESIDENT.

ACTUALLY.

WE'VE LIVED HERE IN LAKE JACKSON LONGER THAN ANY OTHER PLACE.

I'D WORKED FOR DOW IN, IN CALIFORNIA, IN MIDLAND, AND, AND NOW HERE.

UH, SO, UH, BUT I, THOSE TWO AND A HALF YEARS, ALMOST FOUR YEARS, I LEARNED A, I OBVIOUSLY KNOW DOWS WATER SYSTEM VERY WELL, CUZ I MAPPED OUT A SCHEMATIC AND WE DID BALANCES, UH, AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING.

AND I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UH, FEEL FOR WHAT THE WATER AUTHORITY'S DOING, BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE DECISION MAKING OR DISCUSSIONS OR WHATEVER.

SO IN MANY REGARDS, I'D BE COMING ON BOARD SORT OF AS A LAYPERSON.

AND JUAN AND I NEVER REALLY TALKED TOO MUCH ABOUT HIS ROLE AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

HIS, UH, HE DID GIVE ME A CALL ONE EVENING AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIS THROWING MY NAME IN THE HAT.

AND HE WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SAY NO TO BECAUSE HE WASN'T FEELING TOO GOOD.

AND HE'S BEEN A LONG TIME FRIEND.

GREAT GUY.

UH, SO I SAID YES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY.

I, I, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD A MATCH THIS WILL BE FOR ME.

I, YOU KNOW, I'M A VERY COMFORTABLE DOW RETIREE WITH THEIR PENSION AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH IT.

SO I'M, MY WIFE AND I ARE LIVING LIFE VERY NICELY.

BUT, UH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, UH, AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE IT'S A MATCH.

AND I SAW SOME PLACE IN THE LITERATURE THAT YOU KIND OF REVISIT THESE ROLES EVERY COUPLE YEARS.

AND IF IT LOOKED LIKE IT WASN'T A MATCH, MY GOSH, I HOPE IT WOULDN'T WAIT TWO YEARS TO, FOR US TO, TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THE RIGHT PERSON IN THE ROLE.

UH, THAT'S NOT THE CULTURE THAT I WAS BROUGHT UP IN.

SO, UH, ANY ANYTHING ELSE I, I CAN HELP YOU WITH IF I WOULD, IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANTED ME FOR THE ROLE, I WOULD, UH, ASK EACH OF YOU FOR WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION IS OF, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ROLE TO BE PERFECT IF WE, IF WE DID THIS ROLE.

PERFECT.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM YOUR END, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE AS, AS YOU KNOW, BEING INVOLVED WITH THE WATER SUPPLY MM-HMM.

, YOU'RE AWARE OF THE WATER SITUATION, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF WATER SITUATION, I SHOULD SAY CHALLENGES WITH WATER.

CHALLENGES.

AND, UH, THE CHALLENGES ARE GOING TO BE GETTING WORSE DOWN THE ROAD TILL WE HAVE THE NEW RESERVOIR BUILT AND, UH, OPERATION VERY LONG TERM, EVEN WITH THE RESERVOIR, IF, IF TEXAS KEEPS PUTTING 800 PEOPLE A DAY, NEW PEOPLE IN THIS STATE, THAT RIVER IS GONNA DRY UP ON YOU.

SO THAT'S VERY LONG.

THAT'S VERY LONG.

SO MY EXPECTATION, SHORT TERM, THERE'S OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO.

SO MY EXPECTATION FROM, UH, COUNCIL SIDE WOULD BE TO, FOR PERSON WHO GETS APPOINTED TO, UH, UH, LOOK OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF LAKE JACKSON.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE ARE, UH, PAY, YOU KNOW, EQUALLY AMONG ALL THE OTHER CITIES, AND BWA IS MANAGED, UH, AS PER BEST EFFICIENCIES.

, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROVIDE OUR CITIZENS WITH THE QUALITY OF WATER AT THE CHEAPEST PRICE.

OF THESE ENTITIES, THERE'S NO NEED THAT FOR ME TO TAKE ON THIS KIND OF HEADACHE.

I'M SURE IT'D BE HARD TO HIDE MY ENGINEERING.

UH, SO THAT'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE.

I THINK IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, YOU PROBABLY GOTTA GET RID OF ME .

SO, AND UH, I'M, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE DOW FOLKS, UH, HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR TWO, THREE YEARS AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP, I THINK THE HIGHEST OF TIM AND, UH, AND THE THINGS THEY'VE DRIVEN TOWARDS.

BUT, UH, LIKE ANY ENTITIES DOCK AND HAS ITS OBJECTIVES, THE CITY HAS ITS OBJECTIVES AND THE KEY IS TO, UH, I I THINK THE ONLY, IF, IF I THOUGHT THERE WASN'T A PRETTY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ALL

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BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK THE GROUNDWORK IS ALL THERE TO, TO REALLY TRY TO OPTIMIZE IT.

SO IT'S A WIN-WIN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY.

YOU, YOU STATED YOU LONG TERM GOAL, BUT YOU WERE STARTING OUT ON YOUR SHORT TERM.

YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CLARIFY.

YEAH, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR WATER.

OBVIOUSLY REVERSE OSMOSIS IS ONE, BUT IT'S SUPER EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT YOUR RIVER WATER'S GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE TOO BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND ON IT.

UH, IT'S IF, IF, IF YOU WEREN'T GROWING AS A STATE SO FAST, IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A DEAL.

I, I HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LEGISLATURE, IF IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE OR, OR INDUSTRY THAT NEED THE WATER ARE GONNA FAVOR INDUSTRY.

SO THE WHOLE WATER RIGHTS THING COULD GET TO BE A REALLY INTERESTING DISCUSSION SOMEDAY.

REALLY.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY SOON.

BUT SOMEDAY, IF YOU GOT CHANCE OF RUNNING A PLANET DOW OR LETTING THIS PERSON DIE A THIRST, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA NEED THAT.

RUN THE PLANT.

THAT'S INTEREST.

THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

THAT'S AGAIN, FROM HAVING LOOKED AT, BUT BETWEEN THAT POINT AND THIS POINT, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU DON'T, UH, GO BROKE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR 50 YEARS FROM NOW.

TODAY.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO, UH, I THINK THE RESERVOIR IS AN ABSOLUTE GOOD THING.

UH, ONE OF MY BOSSES HAS BOUGHT THAT LAND AND UH, HE DID IT ALMOST AS A HIP SHOT AND IT WAS THE SMARTEST THING, UH, DOW DID.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A REAL GOOD STEP.

THE WHOLE WATER RIGHTS THING THAT DOW HAS DONE HAS BEEN AN, AN ENORMOUS, UH, UH, WAY OF LOOKING FORWARD.

THEY WERE LOOKING AHEAD 50 YEARS.

YES, SIR.

TURNS OUT IT'S EVEN MORE THAN THAT.

BUT, UH, ALL OF THAT CAN BE CHALLENGED IF EVERYTHING GETS TIGHT ENOUGH.

THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, INTERESTS ME IS THAT, UH, YOU'RE EXPERIENCE IN, UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL PROJECTS INCLUDING MERGERS AND ACQUISITIONS AND CAPACITIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO, AND WHAT YOUR ENGINEERING BACKGROUND, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT I SEE IS, IS THAT, UH, AGAIN, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A BWA IS UH, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT GROWTH.

AND MY CHALLENGE WITH THEIR DESIRES FOR GROWTH IS, IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE.

AND THE BALANCE IS, IS THAT YES, YOU MAY HAVE, UH, A COMMUNITY THAT'S NORTH OR WEST OF US THAT IS LOOKING FOR, TO BUY WATER FROM BW CUZ THEY CAN ONLY BUY IT FROM BUS OPERATIONS LIKE BWA.

UH, THEY CAN'T JUST BUY IT FROM SOMEBODY COMING IN DECIDE THEY'RE GONNA PRODUCE, THEY HAVE TO BUY IT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO YES, SOMEBODY UP NORTH TO US, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY, UH, MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN WANTING TO ACQUIRE, UH, WATER FROM OUR FACILITY.

I JUST DON'T WANT BWA TO FORGET AGAIN WHO ARE THE ORIGINAL PARTNERS AND THAT'S THE CITIES AND CITIES ENDOW.

AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER, UH, MANY TIMES THE COMMENT BEING MADE IS, IS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, SELL ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO THESE OTHER ENTITIES.

WELL, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE IN THIS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, IT'S CAPACITY THAT DRIES UP, YOU KNOW, IS THAT, SO I JUST WANT, I WANT SOMEBODY ON THAT BOARD THAT WILL BE LOOKING FOR US LONG TERM, US BEING THE CITY, CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.

SO I WANT, IF ANY GROWTH IS GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW, IT'S USED TO BE LAND WAS IF YOU HAD LAND YOU COULD GROW.

IT'S NOT THAT ANYMORE.

IT'S IF YOU HAVE WATER.

AND SO IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY GROWTH BECAUSE OF WATER CAPACITY, I WANT IT TO HAPPEN IN MISSOURI COUNTY, NOT IN SOME OTHER COUNTY.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE INPUT I WOULD ASK EACH OF YOU TO PUT IN A DOCUMENT FOR ME.

SO IF, IF, IF I YEAH.

YOU END UP PUTTING UP WITH ME.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU BETCHA.

UH, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IN AUSTRALIA, UH, MOSTLY IN THE UNITED STATES IN SOME VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE, UH, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK, WHERE WE DID A LARGE MUNICIPAL PROJECT WHERE A, WHERE WATER WAS AT A PREMIUM AND THEY NEEDED TO RECAPTURE AS MUCH WATER AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD AND RECYCLE IT FOR CONTINUED USE IN THEIR CITY FLEET, VEHICLES, SCHOOL BUSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, MR. WAL, SOME, I'M QUITE DIFFERENT THAN MR. COOK.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MY, SOME OF MY EXPERIENCES HERE IN LAKE JACKSON.

PRIOR TO THAT, UM, I WAS, UH, PART OWNER OF A DUTCH, DUTCH SUBSIDIARY CALLED ROWVILLE, U S A, WHICH FOCUSED ON WASTEWATER REMEDIATION TREATMENT FOR MUNICIPALITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND ALSO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS LIKE CAR WASHES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, I'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS,

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UM, I'M A PREVIOUS MEMBER OF TEXAS WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION, WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN ARM OF THAT AND THE INTERNATIONAL WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION.

NOW, I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN WATER TREATMENT PROBABLY IN ABOUT 10 OR 12 YEARS, UH, IN A, UH, BUSINESS CAPACITY OR LEADERSHIP CAPACITY.

UM, HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN, I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AND SURFSIDE AND I'VE BEEN QUITE VOCAL IN ATTENDING MEETINGS THERE WHERE I'M NOT A VOTING, UH, MEMBER OF THEIR VOTING BLOCK, BUT THEY'RE WATER CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

UH, TALKING WITH DIFFERENT COMPANIES, UH, ABOUT POSSIBLE, UH, LIKE MR. KOCH TALKED ABOUT REVERSE OSMOSIS, YOU KNOW, USING THAT TECHNOLOGY FOR DESALINATION, UM, AND STILL AM INVOLVED IN THAT ONGOING.

SO, UM, BUT MY ROLES IN WATER TREATMENT HAS BEEN MORE, UH, WILDCATTER TYPE ROLES.

UH, BUSINESS STARTUPS, LEADERSHIP ROLES.

UM, WE HIRED ENGINEERS.

SO I'M NOT THE ENGINEERING GUY BY ANY STRETCH.

I RELY ON THE ENGINEERS TO, UH, GET THAT DATA, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS.

BUT I THINK I'M, UH, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, VERY CIVICALLY ENGAGED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY, AND I'M 45 YEARS OLD AND HAVE A LOT TO GIVE.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR ROLES THAT I CAN, UH, PUT THAT PASSION INTO, UH, AND, AND STICK WITH IT FOR, UH, NOT JUST A YEAR OR TWO.

UM, IT'S A BIT OF A SYNOPSIS.

SO I'LL TAKE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY WANTS TO THROW MY WAY.

UH, IN THOSE, UH, OTHER ROLES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE WATER TREATMENT IN YOUR PREVIOUS LIFE, UH, UH, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT LEVEL OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN? I MEAN, PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH, UM, ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERING FIRMS ON THAT.

UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD HIRE INDIVIDUALS, BUT SCOPE OF WORK WAS FROM GROUND UP, RIGHT? TAKING, UH, A PROBLEM AND TRYING TO FIND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE ENDED UP U USING WAS, UM, AN AEROBIC BACTERIA, UH, RECYCLING SYSTEM, UM, SOURCED MATERIALS THAT WERE RELATIVELY UNKNOWN AT THE TIME, RIGHT.

TO TREAT LARGE.

I'M TALKING 54,000 GALLONS AN HOUR, IS THE TYPE OF WATER THAT WE WERE TREATING THROUGH THIS AEROBIC PROCESS FOR REUSE.

UM, SO IT WAS IDENTIFYING THE EXPERTS IN THOSE FIELDS AND TRYING TO GET THEM TOGETHER, UH, IN THAT PROJECT IN PARTICULAR.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, A LOT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAD A LOT OF, OF INDIVIDUALS, BUT EVERY TIME YOU TALK WITH AN MUNICIPALITY OR A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THERE WAS A, A NEW ARCHITECT, A NEW ENGINEERING FIRM, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAD TO GET TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.

SO, IN YOUR ROLE, UH, ON THIS ROLE HERE, HOW WOULD YOU, CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO ME HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT WORKING WITH A GROUP OF OTHER CITIES AND DOW TO PROTECT LEE JACKSON'S, UH, INTEREST FOR ITS CITIZENS? THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

UH, GETTING THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

UM, YEAH.

I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN TO PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR BWA MEETINGS, SO I'M NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR INTERNAL PROCESSES AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

UM, I THINK, LIKE MR. COOK WAS SAYING, I'D PROBABLY LEAN ON YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAD MORE, UM, DEALINGS WITH BWA.

UM, I'M NOT FROM LARGE INDUSTRY AT ALL, SO MY FOCUS WOULD BE PRIMARILY ON THE CITIZENS OF LAKE JACKSON.

UM, I HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES HERE IN LAKE JACKSON, UH, A HUNDRED PLUS EMPLOYEES HERE IN LAKE JACKSON.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY FOCUS WOULD BE.

BUT AS FAR AS A LOT OF RESEARCH, RIGHT, I MEAN, A LOT OF GETTING TO KNOW WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE AS MAYOR ROSOVSKY WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT ALSO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE TO BUY WATER, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I THINK THE FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE TO PROTECT IT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

THOSE INITIAL PARTNERS THAT SIGNED ON WHEN B W A WAS FIRST FORMED.

UM, BUT NO, I THINK I'D BE LEANING ON CITIES.

I'D CERTAINLY BE TALKING WITH THE OTHER BOARD OF, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEMBERS,

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I DON'T KNOW MR. LONGORIA AT ALL.

I KNOW SOME OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS WHO I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY.

I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS IN THE GAME, HE'S PROBABLY THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD REACH OUT TO.

IT WOULD BIT OF USE TO FILL UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

FOR SURE.

WELL, AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BWA IS HANGING THEIR HAT ON IS THEIR DESAL PLANT.

AND THAT'S BEEN DELAYED FOR A LONG TIME, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, BUT, UH, THAT'S GOTTA BE A SUCCESS IF, YOU KNOW, SINCE 2004, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN, AND SO IT'S, UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ASKING EITHER ONE OR ANYBODY WE PUT ON THAT BOARD TO BE AN ENGINEER AND GET THEIR HANDS DIRTY IN THE PROCESS OF, OF ENGINEERING THAT, UH, IT'S WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS, IS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE OVERSIGHT TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO US AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE YEAH.

THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU CAN'T GET RESOLVED, OR THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE US AWARE OF TO, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, START ASKING QUESTIONS ALSO.

AND, UH, SO AGAIN, YOU'RE THERE TO REPRESENT US.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.

REPRESENT US, THE CITY, AND US AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL AND STUFF.

SO THAT'S WHAT, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, LOOK, I, I THINK ALSO WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMEBODY THAT WILL HAVE, UH, UH, THE INTEREST IN THE OVERSIGHT, UH, THAT WE NEED, UH, TO REPRESENT THE CITY.

SO, AND AGAIN, I THINK BOTH OF Y'ALL ARE, ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

[2. Discuss and consider the appointment of a representative to the Brazosport Water Authority Board of Directors – Modesto Mundo.]

UH, THIS WE'VE GOT IN PLACE.

UH, SO IF WE DO WANNA TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, AND THAT'S ITEM TWO IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OF A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BWA WATER BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

SO, MR. MAYOR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, UH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, UH, APPOINT, UH, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME JUST ONE SECOND HERE.

I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE.

UM, MR. COOK TO, UH, THAT POSITION IN SEVERAL REASONS, UH, MR. HIS, UH, REPORT WITH MR. LONGORIA WOULD PROBABLY HELP HIM GET TO, UH, THE, THE, UH, I JUST, RIGHT NOW, I JUST NEED A MOTION, AND THEN YOU CAN OKAY.

DISCUSS IF YOU WANT TO.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. COOK.

I NEED A SECOND.

SECOND.

I HAVE SECOND BY FOR DISCUSSIONS.

AND SECOND, WE'LL DISCUSSIONS.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION.

SO, AGAIN, LIKE I WAS SAYING, UH, WE NEED SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION RIGHT AWAY WHO CAN HIT THE, UH, GROUND RUNNING.

AND, UH, HE'S, MR. COOK COMES RECOMMENDED FROM OUR CURRENT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE.

AND, UH, AND HE HAS CERTAINLY HAS THE CAPABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE OF WATER, UH, BOWS THAT, UH, FACE THIS, THIS, UH, PART OF THE COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD FIT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I APPRECIATE MR. COOK, YOU COMING IN? I JUST, THE ONLY HANGUP I HAVE IS THE YEARS IN INDUSTRY YOU DID SPEND, I, I CAN SEE WHERE BRINGING THAT IN'S GONNA HELP IS A, IS A POSITIVE, BUT I, I JUST DON'T WANT THE FOCUS TO BE TOWARDS INDUSTRY AS MUCH AS IT, I WANT IT TO BE FOR OUR CITIZENS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

I WANT THAT PERSON IN THAT ROLE THAT'S GONNA FIGHT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CITY AS STRONG AS THEY CAN.

NOT THAT I WOULD I'M SAYING YOU WOULD EITHER WAY.

I JUST, YOU MAY WITHOUT KNOWING OR DOING IT, JUST LEAN THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR 40 YEARS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? UH, THE ONLY DISCUSSION I HAVE, UH, I'M IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WATER.

AND I WOULD WANT SOMEONE TO COME TO ME AND TELL ME ABOUT WATER.

I, I, I MEAN, I WAS AMAZED WITH SOME OF THE STUFF MR. COOK WAS JUST TELLING ME.

SO I, I I WOULD BE LOST.

ALRIGHT.

I KNOW SOMEBODY WITH SOME EXPERIENCE, A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN, THAN, THAN I HAVE ON WATER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING NONE.

I'LL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. COOK BEING APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON TO BWA WATER AUTHORITY.

UH, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY.

JUST FOR THE REASONS I GAVE YOU.

UH, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR, UH, PUTTING YOUR NAME IN THE HAT.

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APPRECIATE IT.

THIS DOES MEAN I GET A DOCUMENT FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER DESCRIBING AS SUCCINCTLY AS YOU CAN, WHAT YOU YES.

WE CAN GIVE YOU FEEDBACK THAT WAY.

IS THAT RIGHT, SHERRY? AS LONG AS, AND THE REASON I BLANC YOU WON'T COPY EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT.

MAKE SURE I HAVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'VE GOT YOUR MAILING ADDRESS AND, UH, THAT'LL BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR COUNSEL TO, TO INDIVIDUALLY EMAIL.

DON'T, JUST INDIVIDUAL, NOT AS A GROUP.

UH, IT MAY BE BETTER TO JUST FORWARD THAT ALL TO CITY SECRETARY AND HAVE HER FORWARD.

SO WE HAVE ONE DOCUMENT THAT GOES TO HIM THAT HAS, YOU COULD FORWARD TO, BUT YOU CAN FORWARD YOUR, SHE'S GONNA FORWARD IT ON, SHE'S NOT GONNA COLLECT IT AND SEND IT TO HIM.

SHE'S NOT WHAT? WHATEVER, JUST OKAY.

WHAT I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA DUPLICATE SOMEBODY ELSE'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW.

WELL, NO, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE INDI.

HE'S ASKING FOR INDIVIDUAL INPUT.

AND IF IT'S CONSOLIDATED, THAT'S NOT INDIVIDUAL INPUT, ESPECIALLY IF Y'ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IDEA.

WE'RE REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL.

SO INDIVIDUALLY, EACH THE FIRST PROBLEM YEAH.

WE DON'T REPRESENT INDIVIDUALS HERE.

WE ARE REPRESENTING COUNSEL, BUT WE'RE NOT MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT, TO PUT DOWN IN A DOCUMENT.

HE'S ASKING FOR INDIVIDUAL INPUT ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

IF YOU WANT SOMETHING FROM COUNSEL AS A WHOLE, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS IT AS A WHOLE AND PUT IT TOGETHER.

I, I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THAT HERE.

SO HE IS JUST ASKING FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND YOUR OWN COMMENTS ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR REPRESENTATION.

I UNDERSTAND.

IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PERFECTION LOOKS LIKE AND WE'RE NOT ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

THREE, DISCUSS CHANGING THE AMOUNT OF FEES CHARGED, UH, IN CHAPTER, UH, 90, UH, SUBDIVISIONS, UH, WHEN A DEVELOPER, UH, DOES NOT NEED TO DEDICATE PARKLAND SHARE.

ITEM

[3. Discuss changing the amount of fees charged in Ch. 90 Subdivisions when a developer does not need to dedicate parkland – Sherri Russell.]

SO, UM, THE ENGINEERS AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON STREAMLINING CHAPTER 90 AND THE, AND THEIR TECHNICAL MANUAL AND GETTING CONFLICTS OUT.

AND I'M ALMOST, WE ARE ALMOST READY TO BRING CHAPTER 90 TO YOU, BUT THIS IS THE BIGGEST SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.

UH, THE CASH IN LIEU OF PARKLAND HAS, HAS PROBABLY BEEN 30 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

AND THIS IS BASICALLY, IT GOES TWO WAYS.

IF WE DON'T THINK WE NEED PARKLAND IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS, WE WILL LET THEM BUY THEIR WAY OUT OF IT, OR THEY MIGHT CONVINCE US THAT THEY DON'T NEED IT EITHER WAY.

UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE IS THE RIGHT NOW IS, UM, 18,000 FOR ONE ACRE AS THE BASE MARKET VALUE, WHERE, WHERE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT D DETERMINES WHAT THAT CASH PAYMENT WOULD BE.

AND THAT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S AN OLD NUMBER.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IT AND IT'S NOT REALLY AN EASY FIX TO THIS.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND I SENT THIS, DISCUSSED THIS WITH, UM, PLANNERS, BUT WE'VE CHANGED IT A LITTLE BIT SINCE THEN, IS TO JUST HAVE AN AVERAGE OF THE APPRAISED VALUE OF A DEVELOPED SUBDIVISION THAT'S COMPARABLE TO WHAT THAT SUBDIVISION IS PLANNING TO LOOK LIKE.

SO IF THEY ARE GONNA BE R TWO, BUT SMALL LOTS, WE'LL FIND AN R TWO WITH SMALL LOTS TO SEE WHAT THEIR LOTS ARE WORTH.

IF IT'S GONNA BE BIG, LOTS GRACIOUS ESTATES, WE'LL LOOK FOR, WE'LL LOOK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN LAKE JACKSON.

UM, AND IT, ONCE THAT'S DETERMINED, THEN, UM, YOU DETERMINE HOW MUCH IT IS PER LOT IN THE SUBDIVISION.

CUZ THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ACRE LOT, SO YOU HAVE TO DIVIDE UP, DIVIDE IT UP, AND, UM, AND ONCE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CALCULATES THAT, AND IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T AGREE WITH IT, THEY CAN COME TO PLANNERS AND HAVE A LITTLE NEGOTIATING SESSION WITH THEM AND THEN FINALLY COME TO US.

NO, I TOLD 'EM PLANNERS WAS FINAL.

DO YOU WANT IT TO COME TO YOU? I DON'T.

IT'S KIND OF A, WELL, WE HAVE TO ELECT TO ACCEPT FUNDS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW.

THE RIGHT THE, THE FEE CAN BE NEGOTIATED.

SO I LOOK, SINCE IT'S, IT HASN'T, IT DOESN'T COME TO YOU.

I, WHEN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WAS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS COME TO YOU.

IT WAS DONE ON, UH, OYSTER BIN OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, RES DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE ENDED UP GETTING A SWAMP LAND INSTEAD OF A PARK.

, WE GOT SWAMP LAND.

DID WE GET, WE DIDN'T GET MONEY IN.

THE LAST TIME THAT I REMEMBER WAS THE APARTMENT

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COMPLEX NORTH OF 2004.

WE ACCEPTED CASH IN LIEU OF CORRECT.

AND DID IT COME HERE? I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT.

I MEAN, IT, IT CAN COME HERE IF Y'ALL WANT.

WELL, I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT STATES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ELECT TO ACCEPT MM-HMM.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS IT COMES TO US OR NOT, BUT RIGHT.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT MEANS THAT IT COMES TO US AND SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE A DEVELOPER COMES TO US AND SAYS, WE WOULD LIKE TO DONATE PARKLAND.

AND WE SAY, OKAY, CITY COUNCIL SAYS, OKAY, THAT'S OKAY WITH US.

AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROCESS AND THEN IT'S FINALIZED WITH PLANNERS.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, NOW THAT I LOOK WHAT I'VE WRITTEN, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I MEANT.

THAT THE PROCESS STARTS.

SO THAT'D BE STEP ONE, THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS STARTS WITH YOU SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THIS OR WE YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY START WITH PLANNERS AND THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU CUZ THEY'RE THE ONES STUDYING THIS.

BUT I'M NOT SURE.

BUT YOU'RE, YES.

THE INITIAL ELECTION WOULD BE THAT YOU ALL THINK, YEAH, LET'S DO A CASH INSTEAD OF PARK PROPERTY.

I'D ALMOST THINK THAT IT WOULD START, SINCE THE PLANNERS ARE TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, IT MIGHT START WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO ACCEPT A FEE OF FUNDS VERSUS PARKLAND.

THEN WE CAN DECIDE.

AND THEN THEY GO DO THE, FINISH THE PROCESS UP.

OH.

OR THE DEVELOPER MIGHT COME TO YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WHICH I THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN TO OKAY.

AHEAD OF TIME.

SO YOU ALL SAY YES OR NO, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES ITS MATH AND THE DEVELOPER WILL CUT THE CHECK OR, OR SAY, I'M GONNA GO NEGOTIATE.

DO YOU WANT WANNA SEE IT AFTER NEGOTIATIONS OR DO YOU WANT PLANNERS TO BE FINAL? WELL, I THINK, AND AGAIN, JUST ME SPEAKING IS, IS THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AS, AS LONG AS THE WELL, OH, I'M THINKING ABOUT IT AND THEN I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE IT DOES NEED TO COME BACK.

ANOTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT IT COULD WE GO THERE AND WE DO THE APPRAISAL AND THE APPRAISAL COMES BACK.

CUZ THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S GONNA, THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA COME BACK AND SAY THE APPRAISALS CAME BACK TOO HIGH.

AND SO THEY'RE GONNA NEGOTIATE THAT WITH, UH, THE PLANNERS.

AND THE PLANNERS MAY COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER THAT WE AS A COUNCIL MAY THINK, WELL, THAT'S TOO LOW, BUT BASED OFF THE APPRAISAL, SO WHY, YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE, UH, SAL IS THE SLIDE RULE WORKS.

YOU KNOW, MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT US TO EVER AGAIN TO ACCEPT A SWAMP FOR PARK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVER SINCE THAT HAPPENED, I SAID THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEWHERE WRITTEN DOWN THAT BEFORE WE ACCEPT ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE A CORE SAMPLE OR SOMETHING DONE TO PROVE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A SWAMP.

ESPECIALLY THAT WAS GONNA BE A, A DRY RETENTION SLASH PARK.

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE EVER DONE THAT.

AND IT ENDED UP BEING A WET RETENTION.

SO, OKAY.

SO OF THE SUBJECT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, YOU WANT SOME SORT OF DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE WE ACCEPT THE PARKLAND.

PARKLAND.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, SHERRY, IN THE APPRAISAL DISCUSSION MM-HMM.

, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD ALL BE OVER THE 18,000, WHICH WE HAVE NOW.

YOU WOULD HOPE.

AND NOW LET'S GO BACK TO THE SWAMP.

UH, IS IT GONNA BE APPRAISED AS A SWAMP AFTER THE ANALYSIS IS DONE OR IS IT GONNA BE APPRAISED AS WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPRAISE THE SWAMP.

WE'RE APPRAISING A COMPLETELY DEVELOPED SUBDIVISION THAT ALREADY HAS ALL THE SEWER AND ELECTRICITY OKAY.

AND EVERYTHING.

THAT'S WHY WE DON'T TAKE THE APPRAISAL FOR THE PLAIN LAND.

SO WE'LL TAKE, WE WON'T BE LOOKING AT A SPECIFIC FOR THE APPRAISAL.

WE'LL ONLY BE LOOKING AT A, THAT SPECIFIC CHUNK OF LAND NO.

THAT THEY'RE GONNA DONATE.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH ANYTHING CUZ IT'S NOT DEVELOPED.

COOL.

GOT, SO SHERRY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF IF THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRED THREE ACRES OF PARKLAND, WHICH LET'S SAY THAT'S ROUGHLY 12 LOTS, THEN YOU'D TAKE THE APPRAISAL OF 12 LOTS.

YOU, YOU THINK IS THE MOST SIMILAR TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BY DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.

I'M, I'M SAYING THAT SAL DOES THE MASS.

I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT IS, I'LL SHOW YOU IT WAS INTENDED.

UH, YOU DON'T START WITH AN ACREAGE.

YOU START TAKING THE, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT

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UH, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED SHERRY TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY 40 FOOT LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION, BUT, UH, EVERYTHING POINTS TO THAT DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE LOTS A LITTLE BIT NARROWER IN ORDER TO MAKE PROFITS WELL, IN ORDER TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANY, ANY INTERESTED PERSON, ANY INTERESTED DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO YOU TAKE, ORIGINALLY WE HAD SET, WE HAD SET ASIDE A CERTAIN RADIUS FROM THAT PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN, YOU KNOW, THE SUBJECT.

AND WE SAID IT WAS HALF A MILE.

IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

SO WE DECIDED TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S TAKE JUST A TYPICAL ADJACENT PROB UH, ADJACENT IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE SAME MARKET, AND WITH THE SAME TYPE OF LOT ASSEMBLAGE OR LOT DEVELOPMENT.

AND TO EACH OF THOSE THINGS GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND TAKE THE LAND VALUE OF EACH OF THOSE LOTS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SPOT AN UNDERTAKING.

BUT, AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO TELL ME WHETHER THEY COULD DO IT THEMSELVES SO THAT IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE A, YOU KNOW, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME.

UH, AND BY THAT YOU, YOU TAKE A PER LOT LAND COST ACCORDING TO WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DETERMINED.

AND THAT WOULD BE APPLIED SIMILARLY TO THE, TO AS MANY LAWS YOU HAVE OVER HERE ON THE SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT WOULD SET THE, THAT WOULD SET THE PRICE, UH, PER ACREAGE OR PER LOT, PER LOT, WHICHEVER IT IS.

SO, AND THE, THE THING IS, IT'S EITHER PER LOT, BUT IF IT, IF IT'S MULTIFAMILY, IT'S GONNA BE PER UNIT INSTEAD.

AND THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT PER LOT SLASH PER UNIT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOLD, UH, SHERRY ALSO IS I'M REALLY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, YOU TRYING TO APPLY THAT THING AT LEAST TO, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME, IF ANY, AND SEE WHAT IT COMES BACK WITH.

UH, I DON'T FORESEE IT BE BEING A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THAT WE'RE LOSING ANY OPEN LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE WON'T BE ABLE APPLYING THIS, UH, FORMULA OR THIS NEW, UH, WAY OF, UH, IF A PLAN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH.

THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE HAVE LEFT HERE IS OF COURSE DEN.

AND THAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE, UH, IT WOULD BE DONE BY P U D.

AND THE P UUD COUNSEL IS GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT IT'LL BE A NEGOTIATED.

UNLESS, UNLESS IT DOESN'T, UNLESS HE SELLS OFF PIECES AND WANTS TO EACH ONE AN INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN WE, THAT'S WHY I, I KIND OF WORRY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IN OUR SHORT TERM FUTURE, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

BUT IN THE LONG TERM, AND THIS DOESN'T GET LOOKED AT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO PICK IT UP MM-HMM.

AND FIGURE IT OUT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE RIGHT, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT 20, 30 YEARS NOW WE'RE ANNEXING, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THE PRISON LAND AND EVERYTHING AND, AND WE'VE GOT 18,000.

SO AS OUR NUMBER FOR ONE ACRE.

WELL, IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T MEAN IT NEED TO BE 18,000 ANYMORE.

NO, NO IT DOESN'T.

NO, I WAS, UH, COULD YOU, I WAS HEARING , I WAS HEARING THAT THE NORTHWOOD LOTS, UH, HAVE RESIDENT VALUE UP TO ABOUT, AND THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE NOT LAKE LOTS, THESE ARE AVERAGE LOTS.

A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AREA.

THAT'S WHAT WE GOT FOR THAT ONE.

TIMBER CREEK.

A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE.

SO WHAT DO WE DO? SHERRY, COULD YOU, SAL COULD YOU MAKE THE CALCULATION TODAY BASED ON OUR R TWO LOT AND USE IT AS YOUR BENCHMARK AND THEN GROW IT AND THEN LOOK AT IT EACH YEAR AND THEN PUT THAT AMOUNT IN THERE? WELL, VERSUS TRYING TO DO AN APPRAISAL EACH TIME, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW, WHICH YOU DON'T KNOW YET SUBDIVISION TO LOOK AT.

DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT ALL NORTHWOOD? YEAH.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STAY OR DO YOU WANNA YEAH, LOOK AT, I DON'T KNOW.

NO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE, AT THE TIME I LOOK AT NEWEST AT THE MARKET VALUE AT THAT TIME.

I UNDER, I LOOK AT THE NEWEST ONE DEVELOPED, BUT, UH, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA BE THAT BIG AND THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME.

THEY'RE NOT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT'S, I MEAN, SOMEWHAT DECIDED IT WAS OKAY WITH THE 18,000.

UM, I'VE, UM, I THINK WE LOOKED AT, FOR MY SUSPICION IS, UH, WHEN WE LAST LOOKED AT THIS PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO, WE CAME ACROSS SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAD 18,000 AND, UH, MINE, MINE, THE FACT THAT, UH, IN THE PAST THAT $18,000 PER ACRE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, BASED ON UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY COSTS.

IN OTHER WORDS, RAW

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LAND.

AND NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR DEVELOPED LAND, WHICH IS GONNA ME UP RIGHT UP THE PRICE QUITE A BIT, WHICH I'M SURE IS GONNA CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS WITH DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPERS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SACRIFICING WHEN THEY MAKE A PART.

THEY'RE SACRIFICING THE DEVELOPED PLAN.

NO, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY, IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S THE RIGHT WAY ALL.

SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING LEANING TOWARD, UH, UH, AN APPRAISAL EACH, SOMEWHERE, PUTTING THE WORDING IN AS THE APPRAISAL WILL BE DONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE CALCULATION WILL BE DONE OFF OF IS CORRECT.

WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING CORRECT.

I, I KNOW YOU HAD SAID THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF CITIES HAD GONE THROUGH WHEN WE KIND OF DID A SURVEY AND I CHECKED SEVERAL CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THAT WAS KIND OF HOW MOST OF 'EM WERE TURNING TOWARD NOW.

AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF 'EM, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THAT FLAT FEE IN THERE FOR THEIR RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AND STUFF TOO, SO THAT'S RIGHT.

I FORGOT SHE TOOK IT TO THE PARKS BOARD.

THEN IF YOU'RE THE PLANNERS AND IT'S, IT, IT KEEPS CHANGING, IT'S GETTING BETTER EACH TIME.

WE'RE GIVING DIRECTION TO SHERRY TO, UH, PUT THE WORDING IN AND BRING IT BACK TO US OF THAT, THE, UH, THE FUNDING, UH, LEVEL WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CALCULATED EACH TIME, UH, USING, UH, APPRAISAL, CURRENT APPRAISALS.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, SHERRY? NO.

[4. Consider approving the selection of consultant Freese and Nichols and authorizing the City Manager to negotiate a contract for flood and drainage improvements - Milford John-Williams.]

UH, ITEM FOURS.

CONSIDER, UH, APPROVING THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANT FREEZING NICKELS FOR AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR FLOOD AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, MILFORD.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE, UH, GLO, UM, MID MOD THAT WE APPLIED FOR IN JANUARY WHERE WE HAD LANGFORD COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES SERVE AS OUR GRANT ADMINISTRATOR.

UM, AS PART OF THAT GRANT FOR THE, UH, EAST, THE DRAINAGE, UM, THE PINE DITCH THAT WAS, UM, PART OF THE EAST SIDE DRAINAGE STUDY FROM A FEW YEARS BACK, UM, WE DECIDED TO DO AN R F Q FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD SIX, UH, UH, SIX OF THEM PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS.

UM, MYSELF AND, UH, MODESTO CITY MANAGER AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF, UH, NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE, WHICH WE INTERVIEWED FOR.

AND AFTER EVALUATING ALL OF THOSE, UH, WE RECOMMEND FREEZE AND NICKELS FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, ONE THING OF NOTE, THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE, UM, DRAINAGE STUDY THAT LED TO THIS PROJECT THAT WE DID TO BEGIN WITH.

SO, UM, WE FELT THAT IT WAS BEST TO WORK WITH TO ENTER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS FREEZE AND NIELS? THAT'S CORRECT.

THE CONTRACT, WE FREEZE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU RECOMMEND STAFF TO GO FORWARD, THEN WE WILL NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND THEN BRING THAT BACK FOR APPROVAL.

SO ALL WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THIS IS OUR TOP FIRM, AND THEN WE CAN BEGIN DISCUSSION NEGOTIATING WITH THEM ON TEAM.

SO YOU WANT US TO APPROVE GOING, HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THEM? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO YOU NEED THAT FROM US? YES.

DO YOU ALSO HAVE AN ALTERNATE JUST IN CASE? UM, I WOULD SAY IF WE, UM, IF WE FAIL, WELL, WE DO, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A WE DO.

SHERRY, CAN WE RECOMMEND AN ALTERNATE AT THIS TIME? NO.

THE LAW SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOUR TOP PICK, AND THEN IF THAT FAILS, YOU GO TO YOUR NEXT PICK.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SAY WHO IT IS, BUT, OKAY.

UM, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T.

WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL AND SAY OUR NEGOTIATIONS FAILED.

SO I NEED A MOTION, MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANT FREEZE AND NICHOLS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR FLOOD AND ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS AS PRESENTED.

THE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, ALL AFFECT THE GENERAL PROJECT FUND, UM, IN THE UTILITIES, UM, TO REMOVE THE YON ALTERNATIVE STUDY, UM, THAT WE WERE, WE HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER THAT $100,000, BUT TO ADD AN OAK DRIVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE T D ECU U PROPERTY DOWNTOWN, AND THEN DEFER TO THE STALE OF THE POLICE REVENUE, UH, RENOVATION BOND ISSUE.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SONYA TO, UH, APPROVE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH FRIESEN NICHOLS.

SECOND AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[5. Discuss Capital Improvement Projects – Milford John-Williams.]

TO ITEM FIVE.

DISCUSS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROJECTS AS, UH, MODESTO, I MEAN, UH, MILFORD AND MODESTO, PROBABLY.

WELL, UM, DO WE JUST HAVE A FEW CHANGES, UM, FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED WITH THE, UH, COUNCIL AND

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SO WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING STAFF RECOMMENDING, UH, IS TO INCORPORATE ANY STUDY, TRAFFIC STUDY ON YON INTO A FUTURE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY PLAN.

ON THE, UM, ON THE OAK DRIVE, UM, I DID SPEAK TO, UM, KIMBERLY WARREN TODAY, THE, UM, UM, THE TRAFFIC AGER THAT WE, UM, HAVE BEEN USING.

AND, UM, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE THAN ENOUGH WILL COVER THE STUDY, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TO COVER A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.

BUT IT'S, IT RUNS THE GAMUT.

IT COULD RUN THE GAMUT TO SOMETHING VERY AFFORDABLE, TO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, VERY ELABORATE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON RECOMMENDATION, BUT ALSO MAYBE WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S A PLACEHOLDER.

UM, BUT THIS WILL COVER, UM, UM, MORE THAN COVER, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY OR SOMETHING LIKE THE HEAD AT THE BRASSWOOD HIGH SCHOOL WOULD, WOULD BE NICE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU LIGHTED ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMES OVER IT LIGHTS UP AND KIND OF DRAWS ATTENTION FOR.

CAUSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, PEDESTRIANS HAVE RIGHT AWAY ALWAYS.

SO WE JUST BRINGING UP THE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHLIGHTING THE PUSH THAT, HEY, THIS IS THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND YIELD.

AND AGAIN, THE YON, UM, LOOKING AT THAT, I THINK STAFF HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, TAKING A STEP BACK, LOOKING AT A TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, UM, I BELIEVE H G A C AND, UH, TEXDOT MAY HAVE A CALL FOR AUGUST.

UM, AND SO WE MAY SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR A MASTER PLAN TO LOOK AT ALL OUR ROADS.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S AN 80 20 MATCH.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS.

AND THEN, SO THAT MAY BE A, AN AMENDMENT LATER, UH, TO THE BUDGET.

UM, THE BIGGEST, UH, ONE REALLY ON THE BOND ISSUE, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF.

UH, YOU'VE HEARD, UH, THE POLICE RENOVATION, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE BUDGETING, UM, AN EVALUATION OF THE POSSIBLE, THE FUTURE TDC DONATION, UM, AND ALSO DOING ITS BASIC NEEDS ANALYSIS, UM, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE PREMATURE TO GO OUT AND SELL THE DEBT FOR THE POLICE RENOVATION.

UM, BUT WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SELL ALL OF THE DEBT FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECTS, WHICH IS A 16.5 MILLION ISSUE.

UH, SO WE'RE NOW STUDYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT EFFECT WILL HAVE ON, UM, THE IMPACT ON, UH, THE TAX RATE AND PRELIMINARY, IT SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, MODEST, UM, UM, WITH THE EVALUATIONS.

BUT THAT'LL CHANGE ONCE WE GET, YOU KNOW, FINAL CERTIFICATION.

SO, UM, THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY CHANGE.

BUT PRELIMINARY, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, RECOMMENDING GOING OUT FOR THE, THE COMPLETE 16.5 MILLION BOND ISSUE.

SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES.

SO ALSO ON THE PONS ALTERNATIVE STUDY, UH, THE, THE COUNTERS WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO SAY SOMETHING ON THAT, IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC COUNTERS WE HAVE PUT IN THERE IS, IS THE WRONG TIMING BECAUSE, UM, SCHOOL IS OUT IN THE 2004, UH, RESURFACING AS PEOPLE AVOIDING THE WHOLE WHOLE AREA THERE.

SO IT'S GONNA JUST GIVE YOU A VERY WRONG COUNT.

SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL REMOVE THEM AND WITH THEM NEXT TIME WHEN IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE.

WE'LL PULL THOSE.

WE, UM, WE DON'T NO LONGER NEED THE DATA RIGHT NOW.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? AGAIN, WE'LL STILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP.

MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM SIX IS APPROVED CHANGE ORDER 27 DASH 38 FOR THE INCREASE OF $110,233 AND 17 CENTS FOR PHASE THREE OF THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION SOUTH.

UH, WE'LL

[6. Approve change orders 27-38 for an increase of $110,233.17 for Phase 3 of the Downtown Revitalization Project – Sal Aguirre.]

UH, BECAUSE WE ARE, I'M GONNA SAY WINDING DOWN BOLD.

JULY FOR, UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT, UH, ANYWAY, UH, IN TRYING TO TRY TO START GETTING A GOOD HANDLE ON THE FINANCES ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, EDDIE WORKED OUT A VERY, A VERY GOOD REPORT HERE, UH, AND A, UH, GAVE US A, A REALLY A RUNDOWN IN AND A, UH, SUMMARY OF THE STATUS RIGHT NOW OF THE CONTRACT.

WINDING DOWN IN THIS PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE FROM, UH, YOU'LL SEE FROM THE, UH, CONTRACTS, UH, PROJECTS, UH, UPDATES THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING SOMETIME DOWN

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UH, WE STARTED THE PROJECT WITH A $1 MILLION CONTINGENCY BALANCE.

UH, LO AND BEHOLD, THAT CONTINGENCY BALANCE HAS, UH, HAS HELD, EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE PLANS THAT THE DESIGN HAD, SOME OF THE SURPRISES THAT THE PROJECT BROUGHT ON, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD THE LINE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

ON THAT LINE ITEM.

UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PROCESSED, UH, AROUND 300 AND, I MEAN 463 60 3000, UH, CHANGE ORDERS.

AND YOU'LL HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THOSE CHANGE ORDERS, AND THEY TELL THE WHOLE STORY ABOUT WHERE IT IS THAT THOSE CHANGE ORDERS CAME FROM.

A LOT OF THEM WERE SURPRISES.

A LOT OF THEM WERE DESIGNED, A LOT OF THEM WERE JUST DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION BY A CONTRACTOR VERSUS THAT OF A DESIGN ENGINEER.

UH, SO, UH, BASICALLY WE HAVE, UH, SPENT ABOUT 4 63 OF THOSE, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF OF THOSE IN THOSE CHANGE ORDERS.

WE STILL HAVE PROBABLY ONE OR TWO MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE STILL ARE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOLDING TO OUR GUNS AND TRYING TO, TRYING TO KEEP THAT THING IN CONTROL AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, FALL TO THEIR REQUEST OR WHETHER WE HOLD OUR OWN.

UH, THERE WAS ALSO A COST OF CANOPY, A CHANGE ORDER THAT THE CANOPY CREATED, AND THAT WAS FOR $40,000.

THERE WAS A SEWER MAIN REPLACEMENT THAT WAS CALLED FOR BY US BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IT WAS NECESSARY.

IT IS A LINE COMING FROM THE ATCH AREA THAT GOES UNDER THE ONCOMING MARKET BUILDING, OR AT LEAST VERY CLOSE TO THE BILLING ITSELF THAT IS IN PRECARIOUS OR IS IN A PRECARIOUS LOCATION THAT WE HAD DONE SOME, UH, LINING IN THE PAST, BACK, I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, UH, THAT WE FELT LIKE BECAUSE OF THESE NEW STRUCTURES BEING ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN WE WEREN'T WILLING TO RISK, UH, THAT, SO WE WENT BACK IN THERE AND MADE A, WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A REPAIR THAT WOULD PROBABLY LAST SOME TIME FROM NOW ON.

THERE WERE SOME UNITED RENTAL LIGHTS THAT WERE NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE DARKNESS OF THE AREAS AND SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES, UH, REQUESTING SOME TYPE OF A SECURITY AND SAFETY, UH, SITUATION THERE, 37,000 WORTH OF THAT.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, $138,000, PRIMARILY BECAUSE, UH, THE $100,000 THAT WERE ALLOTTED FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT BY THE DESIGN ENGINEER DIDN'T LAST.

BUT THE VERY FEW FIRST WEEKS OF THE PROJECT.

UH, SO, UH, THE REMAINING CONTINGENCY BALANCES AS OF TODAY IS $286,000 OFF OF THOSE $1 MILLION ORIGINALLY SET ASIDE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE, UM, THAT YOU APPROVE AT THIS TIME, 27 38, AND, UH, LEAVING THOSE PARTICULAR TWO ITEMS, HOPEFULLY.

AND THERE AREN'T ANY MORE SURPRISES, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE.

WE CAN'T BE SURPRISED ANYMORE.

WE'VE TORN EVERYTHING DOWN .

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO IT.

SO, UH, HOPING THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND IS 110,000 IS INCLUDED IN THE REMAINING 2 85.

WELL, THAT'S AFTER THE 2, 2 85 IS WHAT THE REMAINING BALANCE AFTER EVERYTHING.

UH, EVEN TAKING THE $110,000.

IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

THEN WE JUST GOT A QUESTION THERE.

SO WE HAVE 285, UH, $285,000 TO PLAY WITH, HOPEFULLY ALL.

ALREADY HAVE SOME, I BELIEVE SOME SIGNS THERE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SAL ON THIS ONE? JUST ONE QUESTION ON THOSE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THOSE HUMPS THERE WHILE THE PEDESTRIAN PROCESS CORRECT.

IS THERE ANY PLACE TO MAYBE, UH, INDICATE THERE IS A HUMP THERE? CAUSE PEOPLE JUST, JUST CATCH THEM BY SURPRISE THAT YES.

WE, WE, WE CAN PROBABLY SIGN IT.

UH, WE

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IT JUST SAID PE EQUAL TO PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UH, DOESN'T SAY THERE'S A SPEED TABLE THERE.

THE SPEED TABLE.

WE, WE CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE PROBLEM PATTERN.

IT'S THAT IT'S A RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.

THAT, THAT'S 285,000 MILE .

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM SIX, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SIX AS PRESENTED.

HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRODIS.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SONYA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, HERE AGAIN, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8 0 7, AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.072, DELIBERATING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND SECTION 5 51 0.073 DELIBERATING AND NEGOTIATING CONTRACT FOR A GIFT OR A DONATION.

WE MOVE ON TO

[7. Discuss and consider an agreement for the donation of park property and FM 2004 property in exchange for the construction of the Azalea Street extension - Modesto Mundo.]

ITEM SEVEN.

UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND AGREEMENT FOR THE DONATION OF THE PARK PROPERTY AND FAR, UH, FM 2004 PROPERTY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ISAIAH STREET EXTENSION.

MODESTO.

YEAH, I THINK, UH, WE'RE READY TO, UM, DISCUSS WITH COUNSEL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, THE, UH, PROPOSED AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE TDC FOR THE DONATION OF, UH, LAND IN EXCHANGE FOR BUILDING, UM, THE AZALEA ROAD EXTENSION, AND THEN ALSO OUR COMMITMENT FOR, UH, PARKING.

I DID DO A, UH, TABLE AND THE COMMUNICATION THAT SHOWS WHAT OUR FUNDING, ESTIMATED FUNDING WOULD BE FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, CURRENTLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IN THE BUDGET THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

THE AZALEA EXTENSION, THAT IS, UH, $490,734 OUT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, AND THEN PHASE, AND THEN THE PARKING, UH, ESTIMATED AT 330 TO COME OUT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY BLOCK DEVELOPMENT GRANT, UH, OF 230.

THE ONE ITEM WHERE I FORGOT TO MENTION IS WE DID MAKE A COMMITMENT TO USE THE REMAINING BOND FUNDS FROM THE H E B, UH, WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE, 84, 80 6,000.

SO THAT WOULD COME OFF THE TOP THERE.

UH, SO YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE COMPLETE FOUR 90 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA GO INTO

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE FOR ACTION AFTERWARDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DECIDED YET.

WE'RE GONNA

[RECONVENE AND TAKE ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THE GROCERY STORE.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8 35, AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION, REGULAR SESSION NOW AT 8 35.

AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, ITEM, UH, THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT AN ITEM, BUT IT IS, UH, RECONVENED AND TAKE ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT FOR THE DONATION OF PARK PROPERTY AT AN FM 2004 PROPERTY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ISAIAH STREET EXTENSION, MR. MUND, MR. MAYOR, THAT I MOVE, THAT WE, UH, AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE T D E C U AS PER DOCUMENT DRAFT FIVE WITH, UH, THREE CHANGES, MR. MUNDO, THREE, THREE, THE THREE CHANGES, AND THOSE THREE CHANGES ON, UH, SECTION 1.5 THAT, UH, WE, UM, UH, IT SAYS THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY ON 2004 SAID BE, UM, DONATED WITHIN 48 MONTHS.

UH, WE WILL BE ASKING, UH, TSU, I THINK CAN BE DONE WITHIN 36, UM, IN SECTION 2.15.

WE HAD A 1 MILLION REIMBURSEMENT, UH, FOR THE ROAD IF THE DONATIONS FAILED.

WE ALSO, UH, COUNSEL HAS ASKED TO, UH, IDENTIFY ALSO THE, OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PARKING LOT.

IF WE SHOULD CONSTRUCT THAT BEFORE THE DONATION, IT, IT FAILS THAT WE'D BE IN REIMBURSED INTO AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS ON EXHIBIT D ONE, ITEM 11, UH, CHANGING, UH, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, UH, ON THERE, E UH, FROM THE CIVIC CENTER TO A CIVIC BUILDING.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, AND I'LL NEED A SECOND.

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I'LL MAKE A SECOND.

A MOTION THIS SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN SONYA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BLANCHARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AND SINCE WE'RE VOTING ON THIS, WHAT THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS CALLED DRAFT FIVE WILL BE PUBLIC RECORD NOW.

SO THAT'S AVAILABLE, UH, FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO VIEW THAT, UH, DOCUMENT GOING FORWARD.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

[8. Staff Updates]

UH, ITEM EIGHT, UH, STAFF UPDATES.

MODESTO, UH, STATE MANAGER UPDATE THE, UH, THE CCC IS OPEN, UH, WITH A NEW ROAD.

UH, NO, THAT'S GREAT.

UH, THAT'S GOOD.

UM, I WENT ON SATURDAY, I'M SORRY, I WENT ON SATURDAY.

WORKS GREAT.

WE LOVE CITIZENS WHO COME AND USE THE CCC.

UM, THEN, UM, WE ARE NEARING OUR, UM, UH, CHLORINE CONVERSION END DATE.

UM, SABRINA, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL END DATE? 27TH.

THE 27TH.

27TH.

IT DOES HAVE ONE COMMENT ABOUT I CAN MAKE THIS THIS YEAR, THIS TIME.

THE CONVER CHLORINE CONVERSION HAS GONE VERY WELL.

WE, I THINK THE MIXING TANK THAT WE INSTALLED HAS DONE A GREAT JOB BECAUSE, UH, USED TO GET REAL SPIKES IN CHLORINE, AND WE HAVE NOT APPROXIMATELY, HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE SPIKES.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GREAT JOB.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR C MANAGER UPDATES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS THAT WE DO FOR? I DO.

UH, WE WILL NOTIFY THE BWA OF THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. UH, COOK.

UM, AND, UH, ONE ITEM FOR COUNSEL, AGAIN, IS TO SEND EXPECTATIONS TO MR. COOK.

YOU, UH, HAVE THAT CHANCE.

UM, ALSO WE WILL, UH, SHERRY WILL COME BACK WITH FINAL WORDING ON, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES.

UM, I THOUGHT I WOULD, WHEN I BRING CHAPTER 90, IT'LL BE IN CHAPTER 90.

AND THEN WE WILL BRING BACK THE CONTRACT WITH FRIESA NICHOLS FOR APPROVAL ONCE WE, UH, NEGOTIATE THAT.

AND WE WILL LOOK AT NEED, UH, ADDING, UM, SI SPEED TABLE SIGNS, UH, DOWNTOWN.

AND YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE THE, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTER ON NORTHFIELD PARK? NO.

OKAY, COUNSEL, REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO.

ITEM NINE, CONSTRUCTION UPDATES, SAL.

UM, ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

AND, UH,

[9. Construction Updates]

OH, WELL, UH, THE, UM, DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, GOING SLOWLY AGAIN.

UH, THEY POURED ANOTHER PORTION OF THE, UH, WALL AT NORTH PARKING PLACE.

THERE'S STILL TWO MORE PORTIONS OF THE WALL TO BE BUILT.

UH, AT THE SAME TIME THAT THIS IS HAPPENING, THE BRICK LAYERS ARE STARTING TO BREAK THOSE WALLS, UH, TO FINISH THAT OFF.

SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE SEATS ARE ALSO GONNA BE, ARE GONNA BE WORKED ON ALSO ALONG WITH THAT WALL.

SO, UM, MR. HANYA HAD BROUGHT UP, UH, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING, UH, ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN TEMPORARY WALKWAY ON NORTH PARKING PLACE.

BUT WHEN MR. WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, IT'S, THERE'S REALLY NO SPACE IN THERE BECAUSE THERE, ONCE THEY FINISHED THE OTHER WALL, THAT WHOLE AREA WILL BE A WALL, UH, THERE, BECAUSE IT'S WORKING WITH THE RAMPS GOING UP AND DOWN.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA TRANSITION IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS.

IF SO, IF WE PUT ONE, IT'D GET TORN RIGHT UP.

UM, BECAUSE IT'LL BE A COMPLETE AT THE, AT THE RIGHT.

THEY'RE GOING, UH, THAT AREA THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE DONE NEXT WEEK.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY.

SO THERE WILL BE A WALL THERE, THERE THAT'S GONNA BE A WALL.

CORRECT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE, SINCE WE'VE HAD TO MAKE THE WHOLE AREA AADA ACCESSIBLE.

SO SAL WAS SHOWING ME THE PLANS, THAT AREA, AND THERE'S A MIDDLE TRANSITION, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE YOU'RE, IT'S RAMPS CIVIC CENTER, IT'S RAMPS.

IT GOES THIS WAY AND THEN COMES BACK AND THEN YOU GO BACK UP.

OKAY, I GOT YOU.

YEAH, THERE ARE THREE RAMPS.

UH, TWO ON EITHER SIDE, ONE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THERE'S ALSO A, UH, A STAIR STAIRWAY, SMALL STAIRWAY.

I'VE BEEN THREE STEPS UP, UH, ALSO IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT NOW, THE CONCERN WAS THAT THEY CAN'T GET THERE.

THEY HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY ACROSS BOTH WAYS TO EVEN GET CLOSER TO THE, THERE'S GONNA BE A RAMP RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE ALONG WITH A STEP, A STAIR AREA.

I THINK THEY'LL BE HAPPY.

SECTION, WHICH WILL PROBABLY COVER CLOSE TO WHERE YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR, UH, PROBLEMS WERE, WE WERE WAITING ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, STREET, NOT STREET LIGHTS, THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS, PEOPLE, THE, UH, ACTUAL LIGHT ELECTRIC TO MOVE IN.

THANK YOU FOR CHECKING THAT OUT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, YEAH.

WE LOOKED AT IT, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT THING, AND THEN WE, WE SAW THAT THE ADVANCE WAS HAPPENING, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MOVING ON THE THIRD

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WE THOUGHT THEY HAD MOVED IN.

AND THEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE, DAD HAD JUST STOPPED OVER TO GET SOME WATER IN THERE.

UH, IT'S THE SAME COMPANY THEY'RE WORKING IN FREEPORT.

UH, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY WOULD COME IN HERE THIS WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, START HITTING WHATEVER'S LEFT OFF, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT PROBLEMS. UH, UM, AND, UH, AND OF COURSE, THE LAST THING THAT'LL HA THAT'LL HAPPEN IS THEY, THEY WENT OUT AND STRIPED THAT.

YOU, YOU SAW ALL THE STRAPPING THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE PARKING LOT AREAS.

UH, ALL THOSE STRIPES ARE NOT COMPLETE.

UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE REMOVING SOME SIGNS.

WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME SIGNS, UH, TO, UH, TO, TO, TO GET THROUGH YOUR, YOUR REQUEST.

AND WE'LL REMOVE SOME SIGNS.

YEAH, YEAH.

STOP SIGN.

AND WE'LL REMOVE SOME SIGNS.

SOME VERY NICE SIGNS.

VERY NICE.

BRAND NEW STOP SIGN.

SIGNS TO NOWHERE SIGNING NOWHERE.

OH, CORRECT.

UH, AND UH, AND THEN THE LAST THING WOULD BE THE LANDSCAPE, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA MOVE IN UNTIL EVERYONE'S OUT OF THE WAY, AND THEY CAN MOVE IN THERE AND DO THEIR THEIR OWN THING.

OF COURSE, THE WEATHER RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK IS VERY CONDUCIVE, APPROPRIATE AND CONDUCIVE TO THAT TYPE OF, UH, THAT TYPE OF WORK.

BUT, UH, WE CAN'T BE CHOOSERS ANYMORE.

HOPEFULLY THOSE NEW STOP SIGNS ON, ON, UH, UH, THIS WAY.

THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ON, UH, RIGHT AT THE DOMINO'S.

THERE'S AN OLD SIGN, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIGN THERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNS.

IT USED TO BE FOUR-WAY HEEL SIGN.

BY LOCAL.

NOW IT'S A FOUR-WAY STOP.

PEOPLE ARE NOT STOPPING.

SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET THE TABLE ON THERE.

SO, YEAH.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT USED TO HAVING THESE STOP SIGNS THERE.

THEY USED TO BE YIELD SIGNS FOREVER.

THAT'S WHAT A SIGN IS FOR NOW.

PERHAPS THE LITTLE FLAGS THAT WE USED TO PUT 'EM, MAYBE TO HELP THE SITUATION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST SEE PEOPLE JUST BARRELING THROUGH, SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN DRAW SOME ATTENTION TO IT.

SO ARE THOSE, THOSE STOP SIGNS ARE GONNA BE PERMANENT? YEAH.

ALL THE YIELD SIGNS ARE GOING FROM DOWNTOWN, EXCEPT I THINK, UM, WE HAVE TO BRING BACK ORDINANCES.

WE DO, YEAH.

FOR THEM, THAT'S ALL.

YEAH, WE DO.

UH, THE OTHER, SURE.

SO QUESTION ON THE DOWNTOWN MM-HMM.

RIGHT? BY, UH, I'M GOING BLANK.

UH, WHAT IS THE REAL ESTATE PLACE AS YOU GET READY TO TURN OFF? TAM? WHAT IS IT? TAMMY'S BAKER PLACE RIGHT THERE.

OH, UH, ABC REALTY.

IT'S, UH, YOU MAKE THE TURN AND YOU TRY TO COME BACK WITH DOWN WHAT IS, UH, TURN BY TAMMY.

YOU MAKE THE RIGHT GO AROUND IS REALLY A HARD LOOP.

AND THE CURVE IS LIKE, IT'S OUT FOR THE, THE EXISTING OLD PART THAT'S THERE.

THE EXISTING OLD, THEY'RE GONNA TEAR THAT WHEN THEY RE THEY'LL STAY LIKE THAT.

WE'RE NOT MOVING INTO THAT AREA.

BECAUSE IT'S VERY NARROW GOING THROUGH THERE.

CAUSE THERE'S SOME BIG LARGE TRUCKS WITH YEAH.

THE SAME WAY I GOT PARKING.

I UNDERSTAND.

I, I UNDERSTAND PARKING OUT THERE.

AND IT'S VERY HARD TO MANEUVER THROUGH THAT.

IT ISN'T IN THIS PROJECT.

I MEAN, WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT, UH, DOING SOME MODIFICATION TO THAT, FLATTENING OUT THAT, UH, RADIUS THERE, JUST LIKE WE DID ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NEW SECTION RIGHT THERE WHERE DOMINO'S IS.

WE DID SOME MODIFICATION AT THIS TIME AND, AND ALSO DOWN AT THE OLD DOCTOR'S OFFICE ON THE OTHER END.

IF YOU GET BACK DOWN, IT'S THE SAME WAY AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

THE OLD DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

WE, YOU CALL IT THE OLD DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

UH, OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE FLOWER SHOP AND LOCAL, BUT BACK ON THIS SIDE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK ON PARKING WAY, ON PARKING WAY, THE AREA RIGHT THERE WHERE THE NECK NARROWS DOWN THERE.

AND, UH, WELL, I MEAN THE, THE ACTUAL LADIES ARE THERE.

THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE SAW, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY LAST TIME, WAS THE PARKING THAT IS STILL THERE.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THERE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OKAY.

CORD THAT OFF WITH, UH, PAINT STRIPES.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PARKING SPOTS.

IT IS NOT GONNA BE PARKING SPOTS.

I'LL LET, UH, ROBIN TAKE CARE OF THE PARKS.

WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME RIGHT THERE.

UH, SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS THERE, BUT THEY, IT HAS TO BE DONE.

THAT WAS IN THE DESIGN THOUGH.

THAT WAS IN THE DESIGN, CORRECT.

WE JUST SAID HAVEN'T MARKED THOSE OFF.

WE HAVEN'T, UH, THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING THE VEHICLES, THEN YOU CAN'T GO GET AROUND IT.

YEAH, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

NO, THEY'RE STICKING OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

UH, AS FAR AS ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS, UH, UH, I'LL LET, UH,

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PARKS FLOOR.

YES, SIR.

UM, DUNBAR BATHROOMS ARE INSTALLED AND OPEN NOW.

UM, THE LAST THING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS WEEK IS TO CLEAN UP THE SIDE AREA, LEVEL OUT THE, THAT DIRT.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA POUR THE ADA SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO THE, TO THE BATHROOMS AND STUFF.

IT'S VERY NICE, BUT IT SHOWS HOW MUCH LOVE NOW THE PAVILION AREA NEEDS.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO TO.

PARKS BOARD.

I, I'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING WITH CONTRACTORS.

UM, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME LOVE.

AND YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED GETTING QUOTES, RUSH REMOVAL, PAINTING L LED D LIGHTS FANS.

THE LIST IS, I'VE GOT A LIST.

OH, ME TOO.

DON'T WORRY.

YES, I'LL, WE'LL COMPARE.

I'M SURE THEY'RE PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, UM, WE WERE GONNA TALK WITH PARK BOARD ABOUT TO START ON.

SO, AND WE'VE STARTED GETTING BIDS, BUT THE BATHROOM LOOKS VERY NICE.

THEY'RE VERY, REALLY NICE.

AND THEY'RE NOT THE METAL TOILET, SO IF ANYBODY'S ASKING, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SEATS AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A RIBBON? WE WILL HAVE A RIBBON.

CUTTING.

I'M GONNA WAIT.

IT'S REALLY HOT AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA GO, OH, IT'S HOT.

BUT, UH, LET ME GET EVERYTHING CLEANED UP OUT THERE AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET A RIBBON CUTTING SCHEDULED FOR THAT.

DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL FLUSH.

WELL, AN OFFICIAL FLUSH.

DEFINITELY.

THEY DON'T WANT ANY SEATS THOUGH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SKATEBOARD, SKATEBOARD.

WE DON'T WANT ANY YES, NO TOILET'S EASIER.

ARE YOU SURE? OKAY.

I'LL TELL ASHLEY TO STOP MAKING THOSE NOW.

MAYBE WE'LL DO THE ROLLS OF TOILET PAPER.

UM, THE, UH, PEEWEE IS STILL, UM, THE BUILDING IS GONE NOW THAT PROJECT'S MOVING FORWARD.

UM, WE'RE HOPING BY THE END OF JULY, UM, TIMBER CREEK PLAYGROUND IS STILL SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING NEXT WEEK.

I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET OFFICIAL WORD.

I KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE UNDERGROUND, UM, THE 8 1, 8 11 AND STUFF ON THAT.

AND THEN AUGUST WE'LL BE WORKING AT GARLAND.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY START TEARING OUT GARLAND PLAYGROUND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BECAUSE THAT PLAYGROUND IS SUPPOSED TO START SOMETIME IN AUGUST.

I'M GONNA TRY TO FIT IT IN WITH THE, THE CREW SCHEDULES, CUZ IT SAVES A LOT OF MONEY IF WE TEAR IT OUT OURSELVES.

A LOT OF MONEY.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A FEW WEEKS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME CONTRACTOR.

THIS IS NO, NO, NO, NO.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONTRACT.

IF IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT, I'M GONNA TEAR IT OUT TO YOU.

NO, NO, I, I, YEAH, I WAS ALMOST READY TO, TO, UM, TRY TO GET RID OUT OF THAT CONTRACT.

SO, UM, YES.

SO THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING OKAY.

SO THAN THAT.

ANY, ANY PROGRESS ON, UH, WHEELER DRIVE AND SUGGS ENTRANCE THERE? SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH MODESTO ON THAT.

AND THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IT'S NOT JUST THE ENTRANCE.

YOU'RE, THAT'S A MAJOR, VERY EXPENSIVE FIX.

THAT WHOLE SECTION IS JUST BAD SHAPE ALL THE WAY IN.

AND I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SABRINA AND MODESTA AND SOME OTHER, I, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING WE WERE BUDGETED FOR AND I I I, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHICH WAY TO GO.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE THROWING SOME THINGS AROUND THERE.

IT'S A HAZARD TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE.

AND IT'S, ESPECIALLY IN THE, WE IT'S WET FILLED OF THE WATER, YOU CAN TELL.

AND IT'S, AND IT'S ONE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WHY WE NEED BOTH NOW.

UM, IF THAT, THAT THAT'S AN OPTION WE'VE LOOKED AT BECAUSE IT IS AN EXPENSIVE FIX.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER TRUCKS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH WHERE I GUESS THE BUILDING WAS BEFORE THAT WAS NOT MEANT FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THOSE CADENCES HAVE HAPPENED.

I ASKED, UM, BECAUSE THE PARK USE HAS CHANGED MM-HMM.

, I ASKED, UM, ROBIN TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THE PARKS BOARD TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND LOOK AT IT MM-HMM.

AND SEE, OKAY, DO WE WANNA MAKE A SMALL REPAIR OR DO WE WANNA MAKE A LARGE REPAIR OR DO WE, OR DO WE EVEN NEED THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ENTRANCE IN THAT PARKING LOT MM-HMM.

, UH, NOW AND THEN COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.

I CAN BLOCK IT ALL THAT'S FINE.

IS RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST, IS BAD SHAPE.

AND I AGREE.

AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON AND GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S MORE AND MORE WE LOOK INTO IT.

IT'S JUST GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE AS WE, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE THE, THE DEMAND FOR THAT FIELD HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING, THEY'RE NOT DOING BABE RUTH TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE ANYMORE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, YEAH.

LITTLE LEAGUE'S THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S TO THAT EXTENT AND RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS, SAY IF IT EVER NEEDS TO COME BACK, BUT, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL WORK ON DEFINITELY.

UH, NEXT THING WE HAVE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST BROUGHT US.

AND, AND GET AN ANSWER.

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

NO, SIR.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SEEING 'EM PICK UP STUFF THAT IT COULD BE REAL EASY AS HOT AS IT IS JUST TO LEAVE IT AND THEY'RE NOT TYPE OF STUFF.

ANY, NO THANK YOU SIR.

CHASE? NO, SIR.

JOHN BAKER? NO, SIR.

UH, OKAY.

AND JUST ONE THING IS, UH, RECEIVED A ME AN EMAIL TODAY.

UH, UH, SENT IT ON MODEST DESKO, GOT COPIED ON IT TOO.

HOPEFULLY HE'S SENT IT OFF TO STAFF.

BUT JUST A RESIDENT THAT WAS JUST, JUST MAKING A COMMENT, JUST COMPLIMENTING THAT THEY'RE SEEING THAT THE, THE, UH, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE MAINLY TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE PICKUP, BUT, AND GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT WITH UNDERSTANDING THE CONDITIONS THEY'RE HAVING TO WORK IN WITH ALL THE HEAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THEY REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE FOLKS TAKING THE EXTRA EFFORT OF, OF,

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SO THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, AGAIN, WE GOT THE, UH, CONCERT TONIGHT AND STUFF.

I MEAN, NOT NIGHT, THIS WEEK, THIS FRIDAY.