* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [00:00:07] JUSTICE FRAUD. THANK YOU, HARRY. I BETTER TURN THIS AROUND SO I REMEMBER WELL, THAT'S WHY YOU SHOW UP TO HEAR THOSE QUIS. YOUR MEMORY'S THE SECOND THING TO GO. SO ANNA, [2. SWEAR IN MEMBERS] WE NEED TO SWEAR IN MEMBERS NOW. WHAT'S FIRST WHAT WE GOT, WOMAN? I'M NOT READY. WE GOTTA SWEAR IN. OH, MAN. ALL, I'M SO SORRY. THREE PEOPLE AT ONCE. IT'S A PARTY. YOU GONNA READ IT, ANNA? THAT'S GOOD. THEY CAN'T HEAR OUR BEAUTIFUL VOICE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO WE CAN HAVE MS. KAY, UH, LIN, MR. LOCK SANDERS, AND, UH, MR. COTTON TYLER, JUST GO AHEAD AND STAND UP TOGETHER RIGHT HAND. AND SO AFFIRM THAT ILL FAITHFULLY THE DUTIES OF PLANNING LAKE, STATE OF TEXAS, THE BEST OF ABILITY, PROTECT CONSTITU AND LAWS UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND OF THE STATES. SO HELPING GOD. SO HELP ME GOD. YES. AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, HARRY. HARRY AND I HAVE SERVED ON LOTS OF BOARDS TOGETHER COMMISSIONS. [3. REORGANIZE BOARD] OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS REORGANIZE THE BOARD. OKAY. WE NEED TO PICK A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR TO SECRETARY. WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? I MOVE LOCK SANDERS FOR CHAIR. SECOND, SECOND. SECOND. YEAH. THIRD. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NOPE. NOPE. APPROVAL. APPROVE. AYE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. SO VICE CHAIR. KAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE VICE CHAIR? SURE. MATT, YOU, YOU'LL BE SECRETARY. PARTY ON. OKAY. SO BEIT, LET'S SEE. [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? YES, SIR. ANY, UM, CORRECTIONS? NO, NONE THAT I SAW. MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. MM-HMM. ? MM-HMM. . AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A CHAIR SPOT SIGNING ON THIS THING THAT I CAN SEE. THERE SHOULD BE PAPER CLIPS. I JUST LEFT IT AS CHAIR. I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT SIGN. OH, THERE IT IS. OFF TO THE SIDE. I SEE. IS THIS MATT? YEAH. UH, MATT. THIS IS MATT. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. I FORGOT MY REAL GLASSES. RECOGNIZE THE BOARD. THANK. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU. HI, COTTON. THAT'S REORGANIZED. WE'RE REORGANIZED. UH, VISITOR'S COMMENTS. IF ANYTHING, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY THAT'S NOT ON AGENDA? NOW IS THE TIME. UH, THE RULES THE ROAD ARE, IT'S ALL OPEN MEETING, PUBLIC MEETING. SO SAY IF YOU DO SPEAK SURE. TO SAY YOUR, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS. ALRIGHT. [6. PRESENTATION FOR DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT 230 FM 2004 IN LOT 1, SHIVAM SUBDIVISION] FIRST ITEM IS PRESENTATION FOR DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT TWO 30 FM 2004 IN LOT ONE SHI SUBDIVISION. STATE YOUR NAME, GUYS. MY NAME IS JAMES KALIB, 15 NINE ALMAR DRIVE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS, 77,083. MY COMPANY IS JK GAS STATION SERVICES. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL CONTRACTING AND THE DESIGN OF THE GAS STATION AT TWO 30, TEXAS 3 32 IN LAKE JACKSON. UM, WE'VE MADE SOME NOTES. WE'VE HAD, YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS HAD SOME, UH, PLANS. OUR ORIGINAL PLANS WERE SUBMITTED. Y'ALL HAD SENT BACK SOME NOTES THAT SOME ERRORS HAD BEEN CHANGED, YOU KNOW, SOME THAT WE HAD MADE SOME ERRORS OR DIDN'T GET THINGS QUITE RIGHT. WE MADE SOME REVISIONS TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESENT THOSE REVISIONS, BUT I DID BRING THOSE WITH ME. UM, IF SO, ON A FLASH DRIVE. OKAY. OR, UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, WE'LL GO OVER WHAT WE FOUND IN THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL YES, SIR. SO THAT THEY, THEY CAN DISCUSS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE AND THEN WE CAN COMPARE IT TO WHAT [00:05:01] YOU HAVE PROPOSED IN THAT, UH, SPEED STICK THERE. THANK YOU. I WAS NERVOUS ON HOW WE WERE GONNA GET THERE, SO YEAH. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT LOAD OFF OF ME. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT ADDRESSING QUITE A FEW OF THEM. UM, THERE'S STILL SOME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COME TO Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, ASKING YOU TO, TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 'EM BEING THE PARKING. UH, WE, WE WERE WAY UNDER, WE HAD LIKE 19 UNDER 20 PARKING SPACES. WE GOT IT UP TO LIKE 46, I BELIEVE LAKE JACKSON HAS, YOU KNOW, STANDARD ORDINANCE TO WHERE EVERY THOUSAND FEET IS 10 PARKING SPACES. AND, UM, AS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD, WE, WE'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY. UH, WHAT IS YOUR NAME? I'M SORRY. JAMES CA. JAMES. JAMES. IF YOU'RE ALLOWED, JAMES TOOK OVER SOMEBODY ELSE'S REALLY JOB PRESENTATION BECAUSE HE WAS ON VACATION, OR HE TOLD ME HE WAS GONNA BE ON VACATIONS. THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT . SO JAMES WAS PUT UP THERE, JUST DON'T BE NERVOUS. YES. BULLET. WE'RE FINE. I'M THE HORSE. I BUILD HIM AND DESIGN 'EM, BUT HE'S THE, HE'S THE TARGET NOW. UH, AND UH, PRIMARILY WHAT THIS, UH, WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT CALLS FOR IS THEY ARE WANTING TO, AT THE OLD M H M R BUILDING THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MM-HMM. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER. WAS THERE FOREVER, AND WAS REMOVED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. UH, THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT IN A, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE. I GUESS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE ACROSS THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME OWNER FOR, FOR THAT MATTER. UH, AND WHO IS THAT? AND THAT IS, UH, MS. CATHAR. OH, MS. CATHAR. OKAY. SO YOU'RE THE OWNER. OKAY. SO SHE CAN RESPOND TO THAT. OKAY. UH, THE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT CAME IN AND OF COURSE THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE PARKING ISSUES. UH, LANDSCAPING ALSO IS ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE LOOK IN THE SIDE PLAN. AND THIS PARTICULAR ONE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE SAME SIMILARITIES THAT WE HAD LAST TIME WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE DOWN ON THIS WAY. THEY CAME IN THERE SEVERELY SHORT OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, OF THE REQUIRED, UH, PARKING COUNT ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE. UH, THEY HAVE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON BUILDING, UH, THE, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE BY THE, UH, BY THE ORDINANCE, UH, 10 PER A THOUSAND. SO IN THAT RESPECT, IN THAT CASE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN 60 PARKING SPACES. ORIGINALLY, THEY CAME IN THERE WITH A 1918 SPACES, I BELIEVE THAT'S MY COUNT, COULD BE 19. UH, SO THAT IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, ERASE THE FLAG. AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE, UH, YOU DINGED HIM ON AND TOLD HIM, LOOK GUYS, THEY SAID YOU CAN MOVE. WE CANNOT MOVE ON A ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BECAUSE YOU ARE SEVERELY, SEVERELY SHORT OF REQUIREMENTS. SO IT WILL BE USED USELESS FOR US. SO IT BROUGHT THIS THING IN THAT SHAPE ALONG WITH THE OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, THAT THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE FOR, UH, FOR THE PROPER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TO BE COMPLETE. UH, WE SEND THEM ALL THE MARKUPS THAT WE, UH, THAT WE DID IN OUR REVIEW. SO THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT THEY WERE LACKING IN. AND SHORT OF, UH, THIS IS A, UH, UH, THIS IS A, UH, FIVE ACRE TRACT. IT'S SIZE. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT SIGNIFICANT SIZE, UH, AND, UH, MOST OF IT IS NOT BEING USED. IT IS PRIMARY LEFT OPEN, UH, OR IN EXISTING CONDITION, UH, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING ALL THE BUILDUP AREA, ALL THE DEVELOPED AREA IS, IS GONNA TAKE ALL THE TREES IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY. UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SITE IS GONNA BE ERASED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THREE TO FOUR FOOT IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE CALLING FOR IN THEIR ELEVATIONS. SO THAT BY DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, KILLS ALL THE TREES WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT. SO THE REMAINING AREA, WHICH IS A VERY NARROW TRIANGULAR PORTION THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LAKE ROAD, UH, UH, THAT, UH, IS GONNA REMAIN THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, CALL FOR WITH THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE IN THERE. AND BY THOSE, AND BY THAT DEFINITION, IT DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE TREE COUNT BY COUNTING THOSE TREES BY, YEAH. TAKING THOSE TREES IN THERE. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO NOW SELECT. AND THAT'S WHAT PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT IS SELECT THOSE TREES THAT YOU ARE GONNA BE COUNTING AS THE, AS A CREDIT TREES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE MORE AS A RESERVE, IF ANY OF THOSE TREES GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY [00:10:01] WILL HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE FROM THE RESERVES TO, TO, TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. UH, BUT THE PRIMARY PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND THE ONLY WAY THAT, THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN IS BY YOU GRANTING THEM SOME TYPE OF A ALLOWANCE. SOME IN ORDER TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT, YOU DID IT SOMEHOW IN THE, IN SOMEWHAT IN THE, UH, PREVIOUS ONE. UH, AND, UH, THIS ONE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THAT, IF THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE. THERE IS, UH, ON THE DRAINAGE SITUATION, THEY ARE COMPLY OR THEY ARE PROVIDING A DETENTION AREA OF SIZE TO TECH DOT REQUIREMENTS. AND BECAUSE IT IS ALL CONTAINED WITHIN A TECH DOT DRAINAGE SYSTEM, SO THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT REQUIREMENT. ONCE THEY COMPLY WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, THEY MORE THAN LIKELY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COMPLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS ON THE STANDARDS ON DRAINAGE. THEY ARE GONNA BE HOLDING THE WATER AND RELEASING IT, UH, METERED OUT THERE INTO THE SYSTEM. AND THE TEXTILE WILL HAVE TO GIVE US PERMIT. UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO ISSUE A PERMIT ON THAT PRIOR TO US, UH, ISSUING THE PERMIT, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT. WHERE WERE THE DETENTION POND DRAINED TO. OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAIN, IT'LL, YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE DETAILS. OKAY. IT WILL DRAIN TO THE HIGHWAY. IT WILL DRAIN TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO, SO THAT'S ENOUGH THERE. OKAY. YES. THEY HAVE A 24 INCH PIPE THAT TAKES OFF FROM THE, FROM THE BASIN THERE, AND GOES AND DUMPS INTO, INTO THIS, INTO THE ROAD, INTO THE TEXTILE, UH, UH, BAR DITCH THERE. UH, UH, OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE IN RELATION, UH, THE, THE AXIS, OF COURSE IS CONTROLLED BY, BY TEXTILES. SO WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ON THAT EITHER, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD GRANT THOSE, UH, THOSE DRIVEWAYS AND AT, AT THOSE LOCATIONS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY TAKE AWAY FROM US AS FAR AS RESPONSIBILITY. UH, THE, UH, THE OTHER ITEM, A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE ALSO SORT OF, UH, RAISED THE FLAG WAS WE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH INFORMATION OF WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE PUTTING IN ALL THOSE, UH, REGULAR GAS STATION, UH, UH, DISPENSERS, BUT THEY HAD ONE OR TWO THAT I COULDN'T TELL, AND THEY DIDN'T SPELL OUT ONE. IT WAS FOR, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GONNA BE SERVICING A, UH, IT WAS GONNA BE SERVICING A HE A SEMI-TRUCK, UH, TYPE OF YES. DISPENSARY AREA. YES. IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE CASE. YES, SIR. JAMES. YES, SIR. WHAT IT IS. OKAY. AND THEY ALSO HAD WHAT, WHAT AMOUNTS TO BE, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, FOUR SPACES THERE, THERE WERE ASSIGNED, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, UNLESS JAMES TELLS US THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE PARKING AREAS FOR, FOR THOSE SEMIS. YES. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OH YEAH. YES, THERE IS. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT IT WAS THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CITY TO WHAT, UH, TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, TO PUT DOWN IN THERE. SO THAT'S AN INFORMATION FOR YOU. UH, TYPICALLY THAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE GIST OF THIS, UH, OF THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. PRIMARILY THE DRAIN, THE, UH, THE PARKING IS WHAT YOU ARE TO DISCUSS AND GIVE YOUR OPINION ON OR, OR ANY OTHER ITEM. I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A LIFT STATION, UM, OVER IN THE DRAINAGE THAT YOU WERE SPOKE SPEAKING OF. AND THERE WE THOUGHT THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A DRAIN, OR ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS A DRAIN, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A LIFT STATION. AND SO WE'VE PUT IN OUR LIFT STATION RIGHT NEXT TO IT. AND, UM, SO WE'LL TAKE OVER THAT. AND LIKE HE SAID, ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE WILL, YOU KNOW, GO TO TECH DOT FROM THERE. SO THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS AN OLD DRAINAGE STATION FROM AN OLD ODOR. THE, THE OLD M H M R AND, AND MORE RECENTLY, OTHER DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WAS THERE, UH, WERE USING THAT A, UH, LIFT STATION TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR, SO THEY WERE TIED BY OUR SANITARY, THEIR LIFT STATION. WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS, UH, THEY HAVE TO FORCE, UH, FORCE BUMP THE, UH, THE SANITARY INTO THE, UH, THERE IS A FORCE MAIN THAT IS ON THAT SIDE OF THE, IN THEIR SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SEWER PLANT. SO THEY ARE PUMPING [00:15:01] AGAINST PRESSER. AND, UH, SO THEREFORE WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE GONNA PROPOSE HIM TO BE TAKEN OVER THAT SYSTEM OR PUTTING, THEY KNEW WHEN I ONE, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. YEAH, IT'S A NEW ONE. IT IS, IS A NEW ONE, YES. OKAY. THERE WERE ALSO SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING. AND WHEN WE DO MOVE FORWARD TO LOOK AT THE REVISED PLANS, YOU'LL SEE WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT ON THE TREES. UM, I WALKED THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND I CAUTION TAPED LITERALLY EVERY TREE THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE PLANS. THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL LIVE OAKS OVER THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE LIVE OAKS, OF COURSE, WE'RE TRYING TO A PICNIC AREA, SOME BENCHES, YOU KNOW, AROUND THERE. WE WERE BACK IN THE TRIANGLE WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING TOWARD LAKE ROAD. WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE A LITTLE WALKWAY, LIKE A LITTLE PICNIC AREA. WE WANT TO LEAVE IT NATURAL LIKE IT IS, BUT MAYBE PUT SOME BENCHES OVER THERE CUZ PEOPLE CAN WALK OVER TO THE PARK. UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AS FAR AS PARKING FOR THE 18 WHEELERS, WE DON'T REALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE LOVES, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD ON 2 88 THAT HAS HUGE OVERNIGHT PARKING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CATER TO. UM, AS WELL AS ALONG THOSE LINES, WE'RE NOT SET UP LIKE A BUCKY'S, MEANING WE DON'T HAVE T-SHIRTS, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MERCHANDISE THAT A BIG STORE LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE. IT'S PRETTY STANDARD, UH, EXPRESS CONVENIENCE STORE ITEMS. SO ON THE PARKING, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, HOPING TO TAKE THAT ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT AT 3 32 AND 2004 TECH STOPS ALREADY REVISED 3 32 TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND PUT A MEDIAN IN THERE. SO THAT'S REALLY ONLY GONNA GIVE US ONE WAY TRAFFIC. MM-HMM. TO GET INTO OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR STATION. UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. SO MANY PEOPLE. BUT YEAH. ANY, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? I BELIEVE THE TOP THING IS THAT, UH, FILLING FOR THE TRUCKS. MM-HMM. . YES, SIR. UM, THAT'S GONNA BE TWO, TWO LANE. HE'S GOT A, UH, POINTER. YOU WANT TWO LANE? I OH REALLY? YOU ARE THE MAYOR. OKAY. OKAY. I'M CERTIFIED FOR A GAS STATION. JUST SO RIGHT HERE WE WERE THIS KEY, WHAT WE CALL THIS A KEY. AND WE'VE PUT 18 WHEELER PARKING SPACES IN THERE. AND OF COURSE YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE NEW PLANS. AND WE HAVE PARKING ALL ALONG THIS AREA AS WELL. AND WE'VE ADDED PARKING TO THIS SIDE OF THE STORE AS WELL. OKAY. SO HOW MANY ADDITIONAL SPACES DID YOU GET FROM PREVIOUSLY? SO I, I HAD 19. HE, YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY RIGHT THERE. 18 OR 19. I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT WE TOOK IT FROM 19 TO 45 SPACES. OKAY. WE GOT 45 SPACES OUT OF IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S THE ORDINANCE ASKED FOR? IT'D BE 60. 60. 60. WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH A FACILITY? HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD YOU TYPICALLY HAVE? SO IN, IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I'VE, I'VE BUILT STATIONS AND , HONEST OPINION. EVEN BUCKY'S, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE USED. RIGHT. UM, PARDON ME. EVEN, EVEN, NO, I'M SORRY. I'M, I'M LISTENING GENTLY. EVEN BUCKY'S STATIONS, THEY'RE NOT ALL THE WAYS USED NOW. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BUCKY'S THEIR MOTTO IS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'LL HAVE E EACH PUMP IS TWO PARKING SPACES CUZ YOU HAVE AN A SIDE AND A B SIDE ON A GAS PUMP. SO BUCKY'S, HE, HE, HE LITERALLY SAYS, LOOK, I, THAT'S A $20,000 PARKING SPACE. BUT IF GUYS SEE THAT A PUMP'S OPEN, THEY'LL STOP. IF YOUR RESTROOMS ARE CLEAN, WOMEN WILL STOP AND SHOP. AND, BUT NONE OF THE SPACES ARE EVER FULL. NOW IF YOU COUNTED OUR MPDS, WE'RE OVER THE 60 PARKING SPACES. YEAH. IF YOU COUNT OUR PUMPS. YEAH. TYPICALLY WE DON'T COUNT THOSE. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO LITERALLY, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, GOT IN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 26 SPACES IN THERE. SO, WELL, THE ONE THAT SUFFERS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PARKING SPOTS IS YOU. YES SIR. YES. SO YES SIR. YES SIR. WE'VE JUST VERY RARELY, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE DOES OWN THE SHELL STATION ACROSS, AND SHE HAS THE OPPOSITE CORNER AS WELL. SHE HAS THREE PROPERTIES ON THAT CORNER. AND, UM, JUST [00:20:01] RECENTLY I HAVEN'T, DIDN'T ADD 'EM TO THE FLASH DRIVE. WELL I'VE BEEN HAVING HER TAKE PICTURES OF THE STORE AT BUSY POINTS, 4:00 PM 5:00 PM AND EVEN THOSE DESIGN PARKING SPACES, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT OPEN. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS SET UP WITH THE SAME THING, 10 SPACES PER A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, BUT NONE OF HER SPACES ARE EVER FULL. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THE PRICE AGAINST IS TOO HIGH. I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH THAT. I STOPPED THERE FOR SANDWICHES 40 YEARS AGO. BUT, UH, YEAH. AND THAT OUT HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE. THE FLOW OF TRUCKS COMING IN FROM 2004, DOES THAT GIVE YOU HEARTBURN OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO COUNTER, UH, CLOCKWISE. EXACTLY. SO OUR PATH OF TRAFFIC, AND IT'S IN THE FULL SET OF, OF PLANS HERE. I'M GONNA PULL THAT UP JUST TO WHY DON'T THAT FULL, THERE'S A, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PUT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AFTER, AFTER THEY LISTEN TO OUR FOR REMARKS. UH, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. NOW YOU CAN PROBABLY, IT'S 7.5 SPOTS PER THOUSAND. MM-HMM. OKAY. UPSIDE DOWN. BUT I THINK YOU, WE GET IT'S NO, YOU'RE FINE. IT'S THE SAME PERSPECTIVE AS THE PRIOR. YEAH. YEAH. AND THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT, EDDIE? THESE, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE PLOT PLEASE, SIR? THANK YOU. YEAH, CUZ I CAN'T SEE IT. YEAH, IF YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED DRIVE LANES, SO NOW WHAT'S TECH STOCK, YOU KNOW, GETS THAT MEDIAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE THEM CROSS OVER CAUSE THEY WANT TO JUMP OVER 3 32 RIGHT THERE. BUT IT WOULD BE JUST AN, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE. TRY TO KEEP ALL THE BIG TRUCKS AWAY FROM EVERYTHING. BRING A MORALE. AND OF COURSE THIS WILL BE USED BY AUTO VEHICLES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, YOUR STANDARD FOUR WILL BE, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE JUDGE ON 2004, THEIR PATH, UH, SEEMED LIKE THEY NEED TO GO TO 3 32 WOULD BE THE BEST FOR YOU ON 2004? YES, SIR. THIS WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD SAY 2004. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT YES, YOU'D COME UP IN THE, HE WANTS TO KNOW IF THEY ENTERED, WHAT WOULD THEIR TRAFFIC PATH BE. RIGHT. SO IF THEY ENTERED 2004, THEN THEY WOULD JUST FOLLOW THIS, THIS LINE HERE. LET'S GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION THOUGH. YEAH, BUT IT'S, WELL IT IS. THAT'S EVERY GAS STATION. YEAH. IT'S TWO. IT'S NOT REALLY DESIGNATED LANES PER SE IN A GAS STATION. THIS PART OF THE, AND THEN WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS ALL OF THIS CONCRETE RIGHT HERE WILL BE 12 INCHES THICK. YEAH. FROM A CONTRACTOR'S POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE THIS IS A, A TRAFFIC LANE. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'LL DESIGN IT, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE A NORTH SOUTH, THERE WON'T BE A TWO, TWO LANES THERE. SO YOU WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRUCKS COMING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND MEETING EACH OTHER. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THIS IS BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW. YES SIR. VEHICLES HAVE, LIKE, FOR FILLING A 18 WHEELER, I ASSUME THAT THEY HAD FUEL ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TRUCK AT ALL TYPES. RIGHT. SO ON THE MAIN SIDE, YOUR DRIVER'S SIDE, THAT'S CALLED THE MASTER MM-HMM. . AND IT FEEDS A SADDLE, WHICH IS A DUMP, AND THE FUEL GOES THROUGH THE METER ON THE MASTER AND IT'S COUNTED, BUT THE METER COUNTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BLANK HERE. THE METER'S COUNTING THE FUEL AS IT EXITS AND COMES OVER TO THIS SPOT AND IT TAKES THE TOTAL COMBINED, COMBINED GALLONS AND THE DRIVER SEES IT OVER THE DRIVER'S SIDE. OKAY. MY POINT IS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH, WHICH WAY THE TRUCK DRIVER GOES IN, HE WILL BE ABLE TO USE ALL OF THE PUMPS. A HUNDRED PERCENT. YES, SIR. OKAY. YOU CAN'T FEEL FROM EITHER SIDE. THAT'S INTERESTING. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S D E F, THERE'S, THEY'VE GOT THE E FIFTEENS, THE E FIVES, THE D FS NOW NOT ON THE BIG TRUCKS, THE E 1585, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS WILL HAVE D E F AS WELL. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TWO, TWO LANES THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS CAN COME EITHER WAY. WE WOULD, AT MOST OF OUR OTHER TRUCK STOPS, WE PUT AN ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT. BUT HERE WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD IDEA. CAUSE TRUCKERS, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST BE LIKE A LITTLE BIT A**L AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE MAKING THAT TURN ON 3 32 OR I DON'T LIKE MAKING THAT TURN OFF A 2004 WITH 52 FOOT TRAILER. WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS OFF OF 2004, I COULD GET A 74 FOOT TRAILER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THERE THAT, SO THE TURN IN THE BACKSIDE IS PROBABLY 96 FEET FROM WHERE THE TURN STARTS. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN A 18 WHEELER MAKES THE LEFT TURN, THEY'RE GONNA DRAG THE TRAILER, YOU KNOW, [00:25:01] ABOUT SEVEN DAY FEET INSIDE OF YOU. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR ALL OF THAT. WE STAY FAR AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. DIDN'T WANNA, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SHOWERS AND SO'S FOR THE TRUCKERS OR? NO, SIR. OKAY. NO SIR. NOW FULL SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN'S RESTROOMS. OF COURSE. BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. NO, SIR. ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO CATER TO THE OVERNIGHTS. WE WILL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN THEM OFF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CATER TO OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUT THAT VIBE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE PROBABLY GOT NINE 10 SPAR PA PARKING SPACES UP THERE. SO WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN HANDLE FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING. WILL WE BE RUNNING ANY SPECIALS? LIKE IF THEY GET A HUNDRED GALLONS, PARKING IS FREE. WILL WE RERUN ANY SPECIALS LIKE THAT? OR WE JUST NOT WANT TO REALLY PROMOTE. YEAH. SO YEAH, I DON'T NO PROMOTIONS TO ENCOURAGE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET YOURSELF, THESE ARE YOUR, UH, BACKEND SPOTS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR YOUR, YOUR SEMIS. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S ALSO THE DUMPSTER. YES, SIR. AND THAT DUMPSTER WAS, UH, IN ORIGINAL PLANS, IT WAS FRONT WAYS. YEAH. RIGHT. AND THEN I THINK WE, WE CHANGED THAT UP TO BE SIDEWAYS DOWN. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO ADD IN THE OTHER, THE OTHER PLANS, AND I WISH YOU WOULD'VE HAD LEFT THAT ONE PICTURE UP A SECOND AGO. BUT IF WE DEVELOPED MORE PARKING ON THIS SIDE HERE, JUST LOOK, WE DIDN'T THOSE GROUP OF TREES AND THERE'S SEVERAL MASSIVE LA OAKS YEAH. RIGHT THERE. AND WE WERE JUST THE CONCRETE PAINT IN FRONT OF THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A STORE, AREN'T THOSE BEING REMOVED? WE HAVE THESE THINGS YOU'RE GONNA NO, NOT OUTSIDE THAT, BUT OH, OKAY. THIS GROUP OF TREES RIGHT HERE. I CAN'T SEE AT LEAST THE WAY I READ IT. YEAH. AND SO WE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. IF YOU WERE TO GO OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT I'VE GOT ALL OF THAT CAUTION TANK. AND UH, LITERALLY THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE THE AREA WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO ADD SOME EXTRA PARKING, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IT WITHIN A HUNDRED FOOT OF THE, OF THE STORE INTEREST, BUT EXTRA PART WITH, WITH THOSE TREES THERE, JUST TRYING TO GET THAT 60. WE WERE JUST LIKE, WELL, LET'S AT LEAST IF WE CAN GET TO 45, YOU KNOW, OUR ACTUAL GOAL WAS TO 40 AND THEN WE GOT TO 45. AND I SAID, WELL, LET'S JUST PRESENT THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A VARIANCE. BECAUSE IF, AND THEY COULD EASILY RIDE ONE OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET A CHANCE PAST , WE MAY DRIVE BY THERE QUITE A BIT, BUT YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE'VE LITERALLY CAUTION TAPED ALL THE TREES TRYING TO SAVE CITY, YOU KNOW, AS WE COULD OR STAY ABOVE OUR COUNT IN THAT, UM, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE THE ROOM TO SATISFY THAT PARKING AT THE COST OF JUST, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE SITE. UH, IT, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE SITE, KEEPING THE SITE AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. AND OVER THERE ON THAT SECTION, THERE'S LIKE FOUR HUGE LIVE OAKS. I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DIG UP. SO WHAT WERE, WHAT ARE YOUR INVENTIONS DOING? YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CALLING FOR A POND TO BE BILLED THERE. ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE GONNA REMAIN, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE THE TREES THERE INSIDE THE POND? NO, I DON'T THINK THE POND IT IS RIGHT THERE. I DON'T LEAVE. LET ME, BECAUSE THE TREES WON'T SURVIVE A POND, SIR. A POND? WELL, UH, PLANT YES. POND HERE. POND RIGHT HERE. SO YOU HAVE YEAH. OH. OUT, OUT OF MEMORY. OUT MEMORY. AND YOU GUYS GOTTA QUIT WORKING SO HARD IF YOU'RE KILLING THE COMPUTER LIKE THAT, WHERE THE ATTACK WRECKS ARE GOING DOWN. SO, WOW. IT IS, IT, IT THAT IS WHERE THE REVISED TIME IS GONNA GO. AND THEN HE MADE SOME NOTES. I'M SORRY. OKAY. AND I GAVE HIM LIKE A COUPLE HERE. OKAY. SO SHE'S, SHE'S ADVISED ME, HE'S REBOOT IT. SO THE POND IS WHERE, WHERE THOSE TREES WERE. WELL, A PART OF IT. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. YEAH, THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE. IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE BEFORE IT COMES BACK UP. SO, AND AND TO TO YOUR [00:30:01] COMMENT, THOSE, THE YEAH, IT'S A DRY, WHEN IT THAT WE'RE GONNA SAVE ARE ON, I MEAN IT'S A, OUR NEW SHRUB LIST THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN IT LOADS BACK UP. WE'VE LEFT THOSE TREE, THOSE BIGGER TREES RIGHT THERE. SO I THINK IN THE POND ACTUALLY, THE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OVER NINE INCHES IN IN THE POND. IN THE POND ITSELF. YES. YES. HOW ABOUT, UH, MIGHT START CALLING IT ATTENTION POND OR DRY POND? IT'LL BE FILLED OCCASIONALLY. YES. WELL, IT, YOU KNOW, TREES WILL NOT LIVE NO. NONE WHATSOEVER IN A POND. NO, SIR. NO SIR. WORDS MATTER. YES. YES. SO NOT A POND. A DETENTION POND. YEAH. OR DETENTION DE YEAH, I MEAN, MATTHEW, I MEAN, BRINGING IT DOWN TO 7.5 PER THOUSAND. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE BETTER COMPROMISES WE'VE HAD SO FAR. BUT I KNOW VALERO'S GONNA BE COMING TO US SOON FOR THEIR PARKING COUNT. SO I'M CURIOUS IF WE LET THIS GO AT 7.5, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY PULLING OVER ON US. UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW. I STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT IT, BUT I MEAN, 7.5 IS DEFINITELY THE CLOSEST SOMEONE'S COME ALONG IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS. OKAY. YES. UH, WHAT I THINK I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE INGRESS, EGRESS OF THE 18 WHEELERS. UM, ABOUT THE SMOOTH OPERATION BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT, UH, INTERSECTION VERY, VERY WELL LIVED DOWN 2004. I'M THROUGH IT ALL THE TIME. IT'S ALREADY A PRETTY CONGESTED, UM, INTERSECTION TO SAY THE LEAST. UH, ESPECIALLY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY. UH, AS FAR AS THE OVERNIGHT, UH, SPACES. UM, SO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR NINE AT A TIME. MS. KATARI JUST STRAIGHTENED IT OUT AND SHE ADVISED ME THAT IN THE KEYWAY THAT I POINTED OUT WHERE THE TRUCKS MR. MATTHEW WERE MM-HMM. WE'RE GONNA BACK UP. MM-HMM. , SHE STRAIGHTENED ME OUT. SHE WALKED UP AND SAID, NO, THOSE ARE AUTO PUMPS. AND, AND IT DOES HAVE A ON IT. UH, I DIDN'T SEE IT. SO THE, LITERALLY THE TRUCK PARKING, WE ONLY GAVE THEM A SMALL AREA AND IT'S TEMPORARY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT OVERNIGHT PARKING WHATSOEVER. UM, ONCE IT COMES BACK UP, I WILL POINT THOSE OUT AS WELL. UM, AND I SEE 'EM HERE NOW. BUT WE REALLY DID NOT ENCOURAGE ANY LONG-TERM PARKING OR ANY OVERTURN, ANY, YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT PARKING. THE ENTRANCE ON 2004 TXDOT IS GONNA MAKE US HAVE A, A TURN LANE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WILL HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC. UH, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THAT INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PRETTY STEADY INTERSECTION FROM FOUR TO SIX. YOU KNOW, PM IT'S PRETTY STEADY OVER THERE. UH, I THINK IN THE MORNINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC. MOST TRUCKS CAN HOLD, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM $200. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUME TRAFFIC TIMES. RIGHT, RIGHT. WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY WHEN PEOPLE GO TO WORK. RIGHT. AND WHEN THEY'RE RETURNING HOME. AND THAT, AND I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU WOULD, MIGHT, WOULD FACE THE MOST OF YOUR TRUCK TRAFFIC IS IN THE MORNINGS. CUZ THOSE TRUCKS MINIMUM 200 GALLONS SO THEY CAN DRIVE ALL DAY ON THAT. THE CHANCES OF THEM COMING BACK IN THE EVENING TO GET FUEL, THEY USUALLY FILL UP IN THE MORNINGS OR UM, A LOT OF THESE TRUCKS THOUGH, WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL USE THE, THE BIGGER TRUCKS. WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TRUCK STOP. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GONNA BE MORE FOR, YOU KNOW, IN DUMPS, BELLY DUMPS, SOME, SOME, MAYBE SOME DUMP TRUCKS. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF, BECAUSE WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH LOVES ON FUEL PRICE FIRST THING. SO I THINK THAT 36 IS DONE. YEAH. I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM THAT ARE GONNA STAY OVERNIGHT ARE GONNA WANT THE ACCOMMODATIONS, THE SHOWER, THE STEAM TABLE, ALL THAT LOVES WOULD HAVE TO OFFER. SO, UM, I HOPE THAT TAKES CARE OF SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS. WELL, I, I, UM, HAVING BEEN HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE, WHAT I HAVE SEEN, UH, THROUGH ALL OF MY YEARS IN THAT INTERSECTION IS THAT AN 18 WHEELER WOULD TYPICALLY BE CONTINUING ON THROUGH, UH, THE INTERSECTION AND CONTINUING ON 2004 TO HEAD TOWARD THE PORT AND TO SO MUCH INDUSTRIAL. YES MA'AM. UH, IN THE FREEPORT AREA. SO THAT IS, WHILE THAT'S WHILE THAT'S GONNA CHANGE WHEN 36 IS DONE THOUGH. YEAH. 36 IS GOING TO BE A DIVIDED AS YOU KNOW. YES, YES. YEAH. AND SO THAT MIGHT CHANGE HOWEVER, THAT TYPICAL ROUTE THERE, UH, TENDS [00:35:01] TO BE A CONTINUANCE ONTO JONES CREEK AND TO FREEPORT. RIGHT. AND WE'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, 3 32, IF YOU DRIVE 2004 TO 3 32, THAT TURN IS TIGHT ENOUGH FOR US IN REGULAR CARS. SO TEXDOT NOW COMING IN AND PUTTING IN THAT MEDIAN WE'RE, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IS EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE GONNA PIECE ALL THAT TOGETHER. UM, WE WERE KIND OF HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE MEETING I COULD ASK IF Y'ALL HAD SEEN THOSE PLANS, IF YOU'VE SEEN EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THERE. BUT, UM, I THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE TURNING ROOM OFF OF OUR DRIVEWAYS THEN TECH STOCK WILL HAVE RIGHT THERE. 2004 AND 3 32. YEP. THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THEY HAVE PROVISIONS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WAY BEFORE WE DID. I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S THE'S. WHAT THEY'RE CIVIL ENGINEERS ARE DESIGNED TO DO IS TO JUST DRIVE THROUGH EVERYWHERE AND SEE HOW IT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOCUS ON THAT INTERSECTION AND THEM BEING VERY AWARE THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE A DIVIDED HIGHWAY. I BELIEVE IN FAITH AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW YOUR LEAD. I'M GONNA HAVE FAITH. OKAY, THERE YOU GO. TO ME, LIKE THE ONLY WAY THAT WORKS FOR YOU ON BIG TRUCKS IS TO COME IN ON 3 32 AND EXIT ON 2004. CAUSE LIKE KAY SAID, MOST TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE ON 2004. SO IF THEY, AND I THINK THE TRUCK DRIVERS AS PROFESSIONALS AS THEY ARE, EVEN IF THEY'RE COMING FROM 2004, ARE GONNA TURN RIGHT ONTO 3 32 TO MAKE THEIR WAY INTO IT. THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DRIVE. OH YEAH. THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ARE EXTRAORDINARY IN THEIR SKILL AND WHAT THEY DO. MM-HMM. , I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE. YEAH. MM-HMM. WITH THAT 3 32 ENTRANCE, I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND YOU SEE IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IN ONE WAY OUT THE, THE SECOND WE WERE OPEN TO, I WAS PLANNING ON IT GOING BOTH WAYS CUZ THERE WILL BE THE OCCASIONAL PERSON, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE DOING SHORTER, YOU KNOW, SHORTER. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY TAIL DRAGGERS COMING THROUGH THERE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DUMP TRUCKS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE SAND GUYS COMING THROUGH THE BURN MATERIAL COMING THROUGH THERE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY TAIL DRAGGERS COMING THROUGH THAT. NOT IN THAT SPOT. IT'S NOT A, BESIDES YOUR BEER TRUCKS. BUT THOSE GUYS FILL UP AT THE DEPOT EVERY MORNING. SO YES. YOU THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD TURN, THE ONLY TRUCKS THAT WOULD TURN IN AT 2004 WOULD HAVE TO BE GOING NORTH ON 3 32 WHEN THEY LEAVE. MM-HMM. OR THEY GOTTA CIRCLE YOUR WHOLE THING. YEAH. CIRCLE TO COME BACK OUT. SHE WAS SAYING THEY'RE GOING OVER TO 36 EVENTUALLY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IF YOU COME IN HERE YEAH. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GO OUT IS THAT WAY AND THAT'S ONLY RIGHT. AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN AROUND, TURN. THIS IS THE ONLY BACK OUT THE SAME WAY. THEY HAVE TO CIRCLE THE WHOLE MM-HMM. MESS BE A NIGHTMARE. THAT'S WHAT I SAY. I THINK THEY'LL FIGURE AFTER THEY DO THAT ONCE THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT. YES. AND COME IN THE OTHER WAY. YES. MM-HMM. WITH IT. UH, JUST CHUCKERS I'LL LIVE. ARE THESE PRIMARILY, YOU THINK TO BE LOCAL TRUCKERS THAT KNOW THE AREA BETTER? YES, SIR. I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM SEEING CROSS COUNTRY GUYS KNOWING IT'S THERE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T GET OFF ON 2004 3 32 OR YOU DON'T KNOW THE AREA. YES SIR. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL BE GETTING ANY CROSS COUNTRY GUYS. GOD. UM, UP UNTIL OASIS, UH, WE, WE HAD THE LUXURY OF BUILDING THE OASIS TRAVEL PLAZA THERE AT 5 21. SO WE DESIGNED AND BUILT THAT THEN WHEN LOVE'S CAME IN, YOU KNOW, BUT BEFORE THAT THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING. FOUR BIG TRUCKS NOPE. OUT HERE. UM, SO LOVE'S SORRY TO SAY IS KIND OF KILLING THE OASIS THERE AT 5 21, THEIR BUSINESS. UM, WHEN YOU I DROVE BY LOVE'S ON MY WAY HERE. PROBABLY 60, BOOKED, BOOKED THERE. THOSE, THE, THE, THE OVER THE ROAD TRUCKS ARE GONNA, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOVE AND THE AMENITIES, THE SHOWER, THAT'S WHY LOVE IS ALL THE WAY UP THERE. THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT TO GO AND JACKSON LEAVE CAN TAKE THEM OUT. I THINK MY THOUGHT IS THIS, UH, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING THESE OCCASIONAL, THESE GAS FUEL COMPANIES COMING IN LOOKING FOR VARIANCES. I AGREE WITH MATTHEW. THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK YOU DID TO MAKE IT MOVE IT FROM WHERE YOU WERE TO WHERE CLOSE IS GOOD, THE BEST. I THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN TOWN. WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR VEHICLES LIKE THIS TO FUEL YET. WE LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA WHERE THERE IS THAT'S TRUE. IT'S REQUIRED. WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT REQUIRE THIS TYPE OF FUEL. YES SIR. AND IT'S, THAT KIND OF IS NONSENSICAL WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. UM, SO I APPLAUD WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH YOUR [00:40:01] PROPOSAL. IF IT'S COMING UP THE WAY YOU SHOWED IT, THAT IT UP TO 45, I DON'T THINK BLUNTLY UH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF, YOU'RE GONNA GET PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG THERE, THAT HEAD OUT, YOU KNOW, 3 32 TO GO HOME OR ALL THAT. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE OFF 2004. IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO COMPETE. I MEAN YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'RE COMPETING RIGHT NOW. BUT IT'S HARD TO COMPETE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO GOING TO BUCKY'S TO GET THEIR SANDWICH, TO GET THEIR DRINKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR EVERYDAY GAS. SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A BUSINESS MODEL THAT PROVIDES A SERVICE FOR THE UNDERSERVED WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO LOVE'S THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S NEEDED. IT IS BLUNTLY IN A LOCATION THAT'S KIND OF, YES, IT'S HEAVY TRAFFIC BUT IT'S KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY. YEAH. UH, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'VE MADE. I THINK YOU NEED A WATCH. I AGREE WITH, UH, COTTON HERE. I DON'T IF YOU, I HOPE YOU, IF THAT'S YOUR DETENTION POND, I THINK THE TREES, IF THEY'RE AS BIG AS YOU SAY AND I NEED TO GO BY AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN, WOULD PROBABLY DO FINE ON THE DRAINAGE. YES. BIG. UM, SO I POND, I THINK THIS ISN'T A VOTE ON THIS IS GETTED VICE FROM, RIGHT? WELL, YES. I MEAN, SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL TO DO THEY NEEDED TO. YOU JUST SAID DISCUSSION RECOMMENDED. YEAH. JUST KINDA GET I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU NEED, YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY AND I THINK IT PROVIDES, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT FROM A BUSINESS PLAN AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING Y'ALL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND COULD SUCCEED. AND I AGREE WITH, UH, LOCKE, THOSE TRUCKS, ANYONE THAT'S GONNA COME IN IS GONNA WANT TO EXIT OFF OF 2004 JUST BECAUSE OF THE DIRECTIONS. YEAH. UNLESS THEY'RE HEADING TO 36 OR BRAZORIA. BUT THE TRUCKERS WILL FIGURE THAT OUT VERY QUICKLY. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. OKAY. I HAVE NO, ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. SO IS IT HI EDDIE. HEY. SO GOOD EVENING BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP. THIS IS THE TEXTILE. I LIKE THAT TEXTILE BEAUTIFUL MEGA TREAD. THAT'S TECH DOS. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NO LONGER THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'RE AMERICAN MEGA TRENDS. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE GET PAID MORE, SO I'LL TAKE IT. YOU YEAH. WE'RE MAKING TRENDS FOR AMERICA FOR CLARK BAY. YEAH. . THIS IS THE EXISTING TECH DO RIGHT AWAY MM-HMM. . YEP. EXISTING HIGHWAY IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT YELLOW LINE THERE. RIGHT. GRAY LINE IN THE YELLOW. THE EXISTING BRIDGE IS OVER IN THIS LANE. THEY'RE PROPOSING A NEW BRIDGE. OH. IT'S GONNA BE STAND THE HIGHWAY ALL THE WAY OUT AND THIS WILL BE THE NEW TECH STOP RIGHT AWAY. SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO TAKE, TAKE IN THAT AREA THERE OF THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. THIS, THIS WAS GIVEN TO US IN THOUSAND 15 TALKING ABOUT STEALING PROPERTY FROM MY DEALERSHIP. THEY'RE TRYING, THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE ALL OF OUR GRASS FROM OUR DEALERSHIP HONDA. YEAH. FROM THE MANAGER OF POWER EQUIPMENT. SO YOU I'LL LOSE FAVORITE NOT SO, AND COME AND TAKE THAT TREE. THAT'LL, IT'S GOTTA BE THAT LIGHT. THAT'S REALLY SAD BECAUSE THERE IS A HUGE, WHEN YOU DRIVE OVER THERE, WHICH THERE'S A HUGE LIVE OAK RIGHT THERE ON 3 32. YEAH. IT'S A MIKE TREE AND HE'S RIGHT. THAT IS GONNA COME OUT. IT'S, IT'S SAD. AND THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL LAB. IT'S A BIG ONE. AUSTIN DOESN'T CARE WHAT CITY ORDINANCES SAY. RIGHT. . TDO ADDRESSED TDOT'S GONE. THEY'RE DOING IT AS A BIG AND THEY ADDRESSED US ON THE POND. THEY, THEY TOLD US, YOU KNOW, TO NO TREES. TEXDOT WON'T EVEN ALLOW TREES IN THE PONDS. YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU'VE SEEN SOME STORES WHERE THEY'VE, THE THE POND IS ALSO LIKE A LANDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT SOME TREES PLANTED INSIDE OF IT. WE WERE GONNA ATTEMPT TO DO THAT, BUT TEXDOT SAID NOPE. NO TREES IN THE POND. TEXDOT DON'T PLAY THAT GAME. YEAH. THEY DON'T PLAY THAT. I, I REMEMBER DELIVERING THAT NEWS TO PEOPLE. YOU WANT TO WARN ABOUT THAT? IT'S SO FUNNY. ALSO, IT'S NOT GONNA LIVE WHEN IT'S FUNNY. YEAH. ALL THOSE TREES ARE GONNA COME OUT. YEAH. LITTLE DIRT HERE AND TEXTILES. NOT GONNA LET YOU HAVE VEGETATION IN THERE. NOPE. NOPE. WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU MAINTAIN IT. YEP. I FEEL BAD FOR JOE. IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY? THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT THERE? DID YOU HEAR HIM? THAT CORRECT? RIGHT WAY. WHERE'S THEIR PROPOSED ONE? IT IS NOT ON HERE, BUT IT WILL BE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO DOTS RIGHT THERE. PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH THAT RED DOT COMING DOWN HERE. SO IT'LL TAKE, SO IT'LL CUT INTO THERE. OKAY. SOLL TAKE OUT SOME PARKING. SO IT WON'T BE UH, . NO, THOSE WELL IT WON'T BE THE CURRENT PROPERTY LINE. YEAH, NO, THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'VE ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY FILED, THEY'VE ALREADY FILED FOR IT TOO. IF YOU JUST PURCHASED [00:45:01] THAT PROPERTY, THEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED WHEN YOU PER, WHEN THEY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY PUT THAT IN THE YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BOOKS. DID YOU SEE THAT WHEN, AT THE, WHEN WE DID THE CLOSING? DID YOU, WERE YOU PRESENTED WITH THIS? NO, I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT TO GET THAT THING SQUARED AWAY. YEAH. UH, BEFORE PROGRESSING ANY, ANY FURTHER ON THIS THING. I AGREE, EDDIE. THEY ALREADY, THEY REINED THAT THEY REINED THAT LAST YEAR. I YES. YEAH. AND LIKE I YEAH. CORRECT. AND I KNOW THAT THE PLANT THAT, UH, THEY PREPARED FOR THIS THING DOES INDICATE THAT RIGHT AWAY. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. YOU NEED TO CONFIRM THAT. UH, YEAH CUZ AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF IT. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S GONNA MESS WITH YOU GUYS. YEAH. YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS, UH, STRIP MAP PREPARED BY TECH. SO IN 19 19 20 17 OR WHENEVER IT WAS 15 20 15 MIGHT HAVE CHANGED. THEY HAVE BEEN CHANGING RIGHT AWAY ALIGNMENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN CHANGING SIDES. THEY'VE BEEN DOING ALL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. WHEN YOU PULLED THAT OTHER PICTURE UP, IF YOU DON'T LIKE OF REVISED PLANS. YEAH, THEY, I COULD EXPLORE PIN IT. OKAY. ARE THE THE ONE YOU JUST HAD BEFORE THIS ONE? OH, THIS IS NOT REVISED. THIS IS YOUR ORIGINAL. OKAY. THAT'S YOUR ORIGINAL PLAN. THEY, THEY ORIGINAL, WE WERE THINKING THAT THIS NO, WAS THIS SLIDE HERE? YEAH, NO. WAS THERE, WHO DID Y'ALL SURVEY? YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SURVEY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. UH, YEAH, THAT'S THE CURRENT. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT. WHOEVER'S IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. I CAN'T SEE IT CAUSE THERE'S SOME DARK GRAY BOX UP THERE, BUT YEAH. S S C YEAH, THEY, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT NO, THAT'S NOT THE SURVEY. I'M SORRY THAT YEAH, THAT'S THE ARCHITECT. I'M SORRY. YEAH. YEAH. I COULD, I COULD HAVE SWORN DOT ALREADY PUT THEIR NEW PINS DOWN. I I SAW THE DOT BOYS HAMMERING. I THINK THE LESSON MAY BE WE WILL TRY TO WORK WITH YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT'S NEEDED, BUT Y'ALL NEED TO DO IT. Y'ALL NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN BASED ON YES. WHAT CAN BE DONE. FACT, THAT'S IT. I AGREE. ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, AND AGAIN THAT THE 7.5 IS THE BEST WE'VE, SOMEONE'S COME BACK AND THAT'S, I THINK GIVEN THIS SCENARIO OF THE SETUP IS GONNA BE FINE AND DANIA, BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THE FUTURE PEOPLE'S EXPANSIONS WHEN THEY COME IN HERE AND SEE WHAT WE GAVE YOU GUYS. SO I DON'T WANT TO, I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR, YEAH, THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. YEAH, DEFINITELY. WHICH MAY NOT WARRANT PARKING AT THE CURRENT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NO OVERNIGHT, IF IT'S SHORT TERM TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT. YEAH. IF THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT THAT, THAT DEFINITELY HELPS YOU GUYS A LOT. SO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, I GUESS IN, IN OUR POSITION IN THE ENGINEERS AND, AND MISS JOE AT THE UH, IN, AT THE OFFICE, WE'LL DEFINITELY DIVE INTO ALL OF THIS. THE, YOU KNOW, BEING A NEWBIE, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN FRONT OF A COUNCIL. YOU'RE GOOD MAN. YOU'RE DOING A LOT BETTER THAN PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF A THOUSAND TIMES. SO ARE WE ABLE TO KNOCK SOME OF THESE THINGS OFF OF OUR LIST? SO I KNOW YOU'RE NOT PROBABLY THE THE ANSWER IS NO. WE ARE NOT WORKING ON PLANS THAT ARE BASED ON A REAL GOT YOU. IT'S HARD FOR US TO LOOK AT IT. SURVEY WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE, WE'D LOVE TO TELL YOU YES. BUT RIGHT. THE MAIN ITEM HAS ALREADY BEEN RE THEY ARE WILLING TO ALLOW YOU SOME, SOME WIGGLE. YEAH. SO THEN IN YOUR EYES THEN JUST GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. RIGHT. LET'S ADDRESS THIS, UH, EASEMENT OVER ON 3 32. YEAH. YES. OKAY. AND PROCEED, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND. THAT WAY WE CAN ALL SEE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC AND PARKING, UH, WHAT OUR SITUATION WILL BE AND WHAT THE NEEDS WILL BE IN THE FUTURE. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. SURE. YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T CALCULATED THE SIZE OF THE, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER? ME PERSONALLY? NO, SIR. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT FLAT PICTURES THE DT. YEAH, THE DTS THE GO. I'M SORRY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THERE. YEAH. I'M SORRY. WHERE? JUST HAD THE MOUSE. I'M SORRY, BUT D YEAH. UM, IT'S ON LIKE PAGE. YEAH. SO THAT'S, I YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. IT WAS SHOWN ON THERE. I HOPE THERE'S NOTHING ON . IF THERE IS, WE'RE BOTH. HARRY, IF THERE IS, YOU AND I ARE BOTH HAVING THE SAME ISSUE. AND ME TOO. THESE ARE BIFOCALS. ROAL WILL MAKE AN EMERGENCY APPOINTMENT FOR ALL DAYS. YEAH. LINE US UP. HE USED TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP BACK THERE. HE HAS TO WORK NOW. I GOTTA WORK ON THE FLASH ON THAT. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING? NO, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE DETAILED NOTES. YEAH. THE PROPOSED. I CAN NEVER READ THOSE. HUH. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE UTILITY LEG. UH, WELL, THE, THE UTILITY. YEAH. THAT, THAT, THAT [00:50:01] AND THE PARTS TO THE LEFT TALKING ABOUT YOUR CLEARANCE. BUT YEAH, THAT DOESN'T THAT SOMETHING, SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK SCATTERED. YEAH, NO, SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT. I THINK THAT SAL'S UH, ADMISSION THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS A A COMMISSION IS COME TOGETHER AND SAY YES, PROCEED. BECAUSE WE LIKE THE WAY IT'S GOING. UM, LAKE JACKSON IS, UH, NOT JUST A T'S CROSS AND AN I'S DOTTED, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE A REAL THOUGHT TO WHAT UM, OUR CITY IS GOING TO MAINTAIN AND LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. WELL, I I, I APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION. SURE. I'M BEING SO NICE ABOUT IT. OF COURSE. SO, SO MUCH SO JAMES MSS IN A NUTSHELL THERE, THE GUIDANCE FROM US IS WE'RE AMENDABLE, WE'RE NOT, YES. IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE, BUT WE DO NEED TO SEE THE, AND SO WE CAN PROCEED FROM HERE. FACTS AND, AND WITH THE PLANS NOT SHOWING THAT. NOW, MS. CAT DID JUST MENTION TO ME THAT OUR ENGINEER, OUR CHIEF ENGINEER DONALD HODGES, SAID THAT, HEY WAIT, WE ARE LOSING SOME, SOME LAND. YES, MS. JOE, DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, WE ARE. AND THAT'S BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REVISED. YES. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE, NOW THAT'S BEING PRESENTED BY THE CITY. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THERE, BUT, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT THEN. REGARDLESS WE NEED ALL THAT. YES, YES, YES. FINE. SO WE CAN CLEAN THE DRAWINGS UP, GET IT LIKE, AND MAKE IT CLEAR ABOUT WHAT TREES ARE STAYING AND WHAT ARE GOING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. MM-HMM. , THAT'LL GIVE US SOMETHING TO HANG OUR HAT ON. YEAH. SO, SO IF I GET IT DONE BARBECUE AT YOUR HOUSE FRIDAY, WE CAN GO OVER AGAIN. , WE'VE JUST HAD A HOLIDAY. I'LL GET IT. I MEAN, I'LL TAKE BARBECUE. WE'LL GET 'EM DONE. I CAN CALL STATION. AS YOU SEE, WE JUST ON THE FIRST RE ON THE FIRST COMMENTS Y'ALL MADE ABOUT OUR FIRST PLANS WITHIN A WEEK, WE REVISE THOSE. SO THESE GUYS WILL BE DIVING INTO IT. I'M SURE IT'LL BE SATISFIED. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. NO KIDDING. IF, IF YOU GET SOMETHING TOGETHER, WE CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. IF, IF EVERYBODY, IF WE CAN GET A QUORUM SO THAT, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. IF YOU GET EVERYTHING READY TO SHOW US AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'LL BE THIS WEEK FOR REAL, BUT I MAY BE TRYING TO BOTHER YOU THE WEEKEND. OUR NEXT SCHEDULE IS, WE DO IT MONTHLY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN A FEW WEEKS TO CHECK WITH SAL AND ANNA AND SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN GET EVERYBODY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. AND YOU GENTLEMEN ARE, IS ANYBODY HERE DIRECTLY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR IS THAT THE WHOLE BOARD OR? WE DON'T HAVE PAID. SO THEY'RE THERE. WE VOLUNTEERED TO ASK. YES, IT'S THOSE GUYS AND THOSE GUYS. SO OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA SUBMIT OUR REVISIONS TO YOU GUYS. AND IF THAT, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THEN YOU WOULD MAKE THE DECISION IF WE NEED TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. NO, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK. OH, OKAY. WE WILL NO MATTER WHAT. YES. OKAY. WE HAVE TO APPROVE WHATEVER. SO WE'LL GET TO KNOW YOU WELL, NO WORRIES. WELL WE'LL TRY TO GET IT RIGHT THE NEXT TIME. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. BUT THIS IS, I THINK IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. YES, MA'AM. AND HA HAVING BEEN KIND OF INVOLVED AT TIMES IN THIS INDUSTRY, UM, IS THAT IT TAKES, UH, IT TAKES, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BUCKIES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. OUR FAMILY IS THE BUCKY'S FAMILY. OH, REALLY? YEAH. I LIKE HOW YOU SAID WE'RE NOT A BUCKY'S. I SAID NO, YOU'RE NOT . NO, NO, NO. UM, HOWEVER, UH, I DO THINK THAT TOWARDS THE END THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND THAT MAKES THIS COMMISSION'S JOB VERY EASY. YES. YES. AND FOR THE RECORD, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD A BUCKY'S. I WOULDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THE FILTERS ON ALL THEM PUMPS. THAT'S A WEAK JOB. I KNOW. SO, UH, SIERRAVILLE JUST OPENED MONDAY. OH MY GOODNESS. LAST MONDAY. A SEVIERVILLE, TENNESSEE IS THE LARGEST ONE IN, IN THE WORLD NOW. AND IT HAS 120 E EPI EMPTY PDS THAT IS, AND I THINK IT HAS 45, UM, UH, ELECTRICAL, UH, EVS. YES. YEAH. UH, CHARGER. THAT'S FOR THE RECORD CHARGERS A AND 20 PUMPS THAT EQUALS 240. THAT'S CORRECT. FUELING POSITIONED AT ONE TIME. AT ONE TIME AT ONE, YES. AND LAST MONDAY ALL WERE FULL AND EVERY EVENING. AND THEY ALL LEAVE THEIR CARS THERE AND GO PEE. YES. WELL, SO CAN WE GO $5 TSHIRT? THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO WALK THROUGH BARBECUE SANDWICHES AND T-SHIRTS. CAN WE HAVE $5 T INSURANCE? HEY, WE KEEP TALKING FOOD. MATTHEW. GET HUNGRY. COME ON. BUT OUR LOWEST ONE IS AT 12 RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT THAT BAD. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU MISS KAY. I THINK I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE YOUR OWN T-SHIRTS. THANK YOU MISS KAY. AND SELL HIM. OF COURSE. OKAY, SIR, YOU WANNA ASK ANY INPUT ON THIS BENETS RAISING HIS HAND COMMENT? SURE. SO THAT'S DONE. WOULD YOU COME HERE? UH, CAN SPEAKERS LIVE [00:55:03] SECURITY? NOW STOP, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UH, THAT, UH, LAST I HEARD THAT TEXT, GOD HAS PUSHED THE DATE ON THE 3 32 20 30 BEFORE THEY EVEN LOOK AT IT BEFORE THEY EVEN GET ON THE BOOK FOR IT. WHAT? THEY HATE ME WHEN I GO TO THOSE MEETINGS. I LOVE IT. I'VE, THAT'S THE THIRD TIME I'M SO PROUD OF MYSELF. I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW. SO PROUD OF BEFORE YOU MAKE, I NEED TO SAY, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. I KNOW A BUNCH THAT NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE ON 3 32 UNTIL 2030. I BEYOND. SO SPENT FIVE YEARS. YEP. WE HEARD IT WAS IN DISCUSSION, BUT I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT. THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. OKAY. AND ALSO NO PARKING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND OVERNIGHT PARKING. THESE TRUCKS CARRY CHEMICALS THAT, UH, AT ANY TIME CAN DEVELOP A LEAK OR SOMETHING GONNA HAPPEN. APS JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, I KNOW COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE THRILLED ABOUT HAVING A IDEA OF PARKED OVERNIGHT PARKING. SO NOT HERE. I AGREE. UH, COUNCIL MAY CHANGE THEIR MIND, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM. BUT YEAH. UH, JUST FOR MYSELF, THE COUNCIL THAT, UH, THOSE, THE TWO ITEMS, I WEREN'T SURE I CAN SEE THAT. BUT NOW, EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU JAMES. YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION? I AM GOOD. I THINK. UH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL REALLY. YOU SURE? THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. YOU DID A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB, MAN, MA'AM. YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD, MAN. YOU'RE GOOD. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY HELPS US WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE A RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD PERSON. YES SIR. YOU'D MUCH RATHER HAVE THAT. YES. A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS ARE ON THE ROAD. YES. SO WE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, SO I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL BUILD IT. RIGHT. IT'LL BE BEAUTIFUL. UM, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE GONNA GO, GO BACK TO WORK NOW AND, UH, MAKE ALL THIS RIGHT FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT GUYS. YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US PROBABLY BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK AND MAYBE WE'LL TRY TO START BUGGING YOU. YOU END OF THIS WEEK. NEXT PARTY ON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO? IT'S A SHORT I'M ANYTHING WELL, I UNDERSTAND. OF COURSE. IT'S HARD TO PAY FOR. THANK YOU. LIKE GARY, YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JAMES. APPRECIATE THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU HOME. AND GET SOME SUPPER GUYS. THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS. WE GOT SOME DOCUMENTS ASSIGNED. DO WE DO COMMUNITY INTEREST FIRST OR MATT? YES. WE HAVE THE ONE COMMUNITY INTEREST. YEAH. CAUSE I GOT SOMETHING TO BE AND IN ABOUT. NICE. WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LIST. MATT. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE BOSS. RICK ROSS. YOU'RE JUST THE SECRETARY. JUST RIGHT THERE. WHATEVER. DARN . STAY IN YOUR LANE, MAN. STAY IN, SWIPE. GET UP. WALK OVER THERE, THEN COME BACK. BYE-BYE. GOSH DARN. OF COURSE. GOOD EVENING. ALRIGHT, [8. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] NEXT ITEM IS ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. OUR NEW EMERITUS MEMBER. I'M GLAD TO BE BACK. GLAD YOU'RE BACK. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE BACK. GOOD TO SEE YOU. OF COURSE. YOU HAVE ANYTHING JEFF? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE. OKAY. NOT ME. NOT YOU. WHY ARE THE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS EMPLOYEES PARKING ON THE GRASS? I, OH MY. AND THEY HAVE BEEN EVERYDAY CONSECUTIVELY FOR OVER 20 DAYS. I GUESS WE DIDN'T REQUIRE ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS. HEY, THAT NEVER CAME TO US. . WHY DO PEOPLE PARK ON THE GRASS ACROSS THE METHODIST CHURCH? I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. BUT THE POINT IS, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY. UH, YES WE DO. NO, WE DON'T. UH, YES WE DO. IN A RESIDENT. WE DO. BUT SO HOW COME THEY'VE COME TO MY DEALERSHIP AND, UH, TAGGED MY CARS BEFORE? HAHA. OKAY. ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE JUST THE POWERPORT GUY. DON'T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE. POWER EQUIPMENT. POWER EQUIPMENT. . OKAY. SO, UH, WE DO, ACTUALLY, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT PARKING ON THE GRASS. FIRST OF ALL, IT, IT'S ON TEXT TDOT RIGHT OF WAY. MM-HMM. . UH, BUT IT IS STILL WITHIN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON. AND WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING PLACES EVEN IN COMMERCIAL. MM-HMM. FOR IMPROVED SURFACES. SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. YEAH. I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT. IT'S, IT'S, AND IT'S LIKE EIGHT TO 10 CARS EVERY DAY, RAIN AND SHINE, WHATEVER. AND THEY'VE BEEN CONSTANTLY DOING IT. OKAY. CAN YOU COME TO MY CHURCH AND TELL US NOT TO PARK ON THE GRASS? ARE YOU MAKING A FORMAL COMPLAINT? I'VE BEEN HEARD THE METHOD. ARE YOU MAKING A COMPLAINT? YES, I AM. WHICH, WHICH CHURCH IS THAT? FIRST METHODIST JOSE. I TRIED TO GET 'EM OUT TO PARK THERE. OKAY. THEY LIKE THE SHADE. OKAY. YEAH. I WAS TOLD, I THOUGHT, UH, ARE THEY, WE WERE TOLD BY, ARE THEY PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? THEIR OWN PROPERTY? THEY OWN THEIR PROPERTY. YEAH. SEE WHERE I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT IS TECH STOCKS, PROPERTY, NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. OKAY. I'M DEALING WITH THIS MAN, . I KNOW, BUT HE DOESN'T LIKE THAT. I'M RIGHT. HE WRONG. I'M COOL WITH THAT. THAT'S EXCELLENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY. UH, WE DO. SO WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY THAT STATES RESIDENTIAL THAT PROHIBITS RESIDENTIAL PARKING ON THE GRASS. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE PARKING [01:00:01] REQUIREMENTS THAT DO AFFECT COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, AREAS AS WELL. YEAH, I KNEW THAT THE RESIDENTIAL, AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY I SENT IT WAS JUST RESIDENTIAL, THAT THE CHURCH IS GETTING BY WITH A LINK. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING THAT I, I, I DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE IS, IS ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ARE OUT ON SUNDAYS. SO ONE THING THAT YOU COULD DO, MR. SERGEANT, IS TAKE SOME PICTURES WITH A, WITH A DATE STAMP DATE AND TIMESTAMP. BUT THAT WOULDN'T I HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE. BUT I DO GO DOWN, UH, PON, UM, ON SUNDAYS ON MY WAY FROM, FROM WORSHIP MYSELF AND I COULD POP OVER THERE AND TAKE A LOOK, BUT I MIGHT NOT BE DRIVING BY AT THE SAME TIME THAT, THAT YOU'RE, UH, PARISHIONERS ARE, ARE PARKING ON THE GRASS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DAVID. RENEE, ANYTHING, NOTHING FROM COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I APPRECIATE ALL. OH, YOU'RE WELCOME BOO BEAR. LET'S SEE, EDDIE, ANYTHING I CALLED IT THIS YEAR? UM, NO SIR. IT'S BEEN ON VACATION ALL WEEK, SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY WAS FALLING APART. NO WONDER SAL WAS AT HEB EVERY DAY. . I, WELL I'VE BEEN DOWN, UH, TOWN AT THE JOB SITE NUMEROUS TIMES WITH EDDIE AND I THINK THAT HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. IT'S COMING ALONG VERY. THE LAST TIME I STOOD WITH HIM IT WAS, UH, IN MY CAR WAS 97 DEGREES AND I GOT OUT AND ACTUALLY STOOD . OH BOY. IT WAS, WOW. HE DOES A GREAT JOB, SAL. THAT'S IT. ME, ANNA. WHEN'S OUR [9. SET NEXT MEETING DATE – Tuesday, August 1, 2023] NEXT TUESDAY? AUGUST THE FIRST. EVERYBODY CHECK THEIR CALENDAR. SEE IF GOT A NO PROBLEM. GREAT. TO LIKE HOLIDAY. THOSE EVENTS AT ALTER ELIMINATE AND YOU WERE THERE. LOOKS LIKE I'M GOOD. IT'S ON MY MAP. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO [7. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS] LET'S DON'T FORGET TO SIGN DOCUMENTS AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU. GOOD. I'VE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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