[*A portion of this meeting is without Audio*]
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[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? YEAH.IF WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, THAT'D BE THE TIME TO TALK.
ANYBODY THAT COMES UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD.
MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD, UH, WE WILL BE REMOVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN OFF OF THE AGENDA.
[4. DISCUSS REQUEST ON AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE B-2 (CENTRAL BUSINESS) TO ALLOW SPECIAL EVENT VENUES AS A PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USE]
ALRIGHT, ITEM FOUR, DISCUSS REQUEST ON AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE D TWO CENTRAL BUSINESS TO ALLOW SPECIAL EVENT VENUES AS A PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USE MR. CHAIR COMMISSION MEMBERS.UH, THE COUNCIL AT THEIR LAST MEETING HAD A REQUEST FROM MS. VICTORIA, UM, REQUESTING THAT WE, UH, LOOK AT CHANGING THE DOWNTOWN ZONE, THE B B TWO TO INCLUDE EVENT SPACE.
UH, THEY AGREED WITH MOVING FORWARD OF, UH, CONSIDERING, UH, THE REQUEST.
AND SO THEY CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, OF COURSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A ROLE IN CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO THE ZONE.
YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON TO HAVE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO COUNSEL THOUGHT, AND SHE WAS ON A, A TIMELINE OF GETTING A YES OR A NO.
AND SO THEY DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD AND CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN YOU COULD DISCUSS THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.
IN ESSENCE, THE REQUEST, AND MR. VICTORIA CAN COME UP AND, AND SPEAK IF SHE WISH, IS SHE'S LOOKING TO ADD A, A EVENT SPACE, UH, DOWNTOWN THAT'S CURRENTLY PROHIBITED IN THE ZONE OR NOT MENTIONED.
UH, IN, IN THE ZONE COUNSEL, UH, I THINK WAS, HAD REALLY CONSIDERED A ALSO ON THE OPTION AS A A, IS IT SPECIAL? A CONDITIONAL, CONDITIONAL USE.
UH, THE SPOT THAT MR. VICTORIA'S LOOKING AT IS THE OLD POST OFFICE.
IS IT OLD? OLD OR THE OLD? OLD? THE, UH, NOT THE OLD, OLD.
THE MID OLD, UH, POST OFFICE ON, UH, ON, UM, THAT WAY ACROSS FROM THE VETERINARIAN, ACROSS FROM THE VETERINARIAN CLINIC AND THE BANK.
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S PARKING, UH, BY THERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT IT ALSO HAS ITS, YOU KNOW, PRI PRIVATE PARKING.
UH, SO THAT, I, I THINK THAT REALLY SPARKED THE DISCUSSION OF, WELL, MAYBE IT, IT IS, UM, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR A SPECIAL, UH, CONDITION.
I THINK, UM, OF COURSE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE COMPLETE ZONING TO ALLOW IT OR A SPECIAL CONDITION.
UH, STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDATION WAS A SPECIAL CONDITION BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THERE COULD BE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, SUCH AS PARKING FOR SUCH A, A LARGER EVENT, UH, VENUE FOR A LARGE EVENT, VENUE, AND ALSO TIMES, UH, AND THAT, AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE THINGS THAT WILL PROBABLY COME UP FOR DISCUSSION OF DISCUSSING, DOES IT, UH, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR B TWO IN GENERAL OR IS IT MAYBE MORE APPROPRIATE AS A SPECIAL CONDITION? SO I, JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MODESTO JUST SAID, COUNCIL WAS PRETTY MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, OKAY WITH EITHER ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY WOULD PREFER PROBABLY THE CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE PARKING IS TIGHT DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC AREAS THAT THIS WOULD FIT, AND THEN OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD NOT FIT.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THAT LATITUDE BY CONDITIONAL USE TO, UH, UH, BE ABLE TO, UH, MONITOR THAT.
SO, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, AS PART OF THE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT WENT ON DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE PROVIDED YOU THE MINUTES OF THAT MEETING WHERE YOU CAN HEAR WHAT THE COUNCIL'S, YOU KNOW, REASONING WERE IT WAS, AND WHAT THE COUNCIL'S RE UH, UH, PASSAGE BACK TO YOU FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS PART OF THIS, UH, OF THIS PUBLIC HEARINGS TO COME.
UH, SO YOU HAVE A RECORD OF THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THERE, AND ALSO WHAT MR. MUNDO PREPARED ORIGINALLY FOR, FOR THAT, UH, MEMO.
AND IN S IN REALITY, ALSO THE PUBLIC HEARING, I, WE WANTED TO AT LEAST INFORM YOU THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE DIDN'T WANNA JUST SURPRISE YOU, BUT ALSO IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO THE PUBLIC COULD ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CHANCE, YOU KNOW,
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TO ASK, UM, ONE, NOT ONLY THE APPLICANT, BUT IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN.BUT WE WERE KIND OF SURPRISED ALSO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ZONING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY WHICH WAY.
IT JUST AN EVENT SPACE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE ZONING.
UH, THOUGH WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CIVIC CENTER, BUT IT'S IN A GOVERNMENT COM.
WELL, IT'S CONSIDERED A GOVERNMENT COMPLEX, SO NOTHING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THROUGH ALL THAT MATERIAL THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU, SO THAT YOU'D BE PREPARED TO, TO ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS, UH, THAT THEY MAY HAVE, OR I MEAN, THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT THEY SAW AS PROPER AND THAT MAY BE WORK, UH, WORK FOR YOU ALSO, OR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU MAY HAVE CONCERN.
THAT TYPE OF A, OF A VENUE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND THEN WE, WE'VE TOLD MISS VICTORIA, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE QUICKEST TIMELINE ON IT WOULD BE YOUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, THEN COUNSEL WOULD HAVE THEIRS AT THEIR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY COULD, IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD HAVE THEIR FIRST READING, UH, OF AN ORDINANCE AND THEN HAVE THEIR SECOND READING, YOU KNOW, THEREAFTER.
BUT THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY, SO SOMETIME IN OCTOBER, IF EVERYBODY WAS AGREEABLE TO SOMETHING, UH, UM, THEN IT, IT COULD PROCEED.
SO MS. VICTORIA'S AWARE OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE UNDER.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS INFORMATIVE.
EVERYBODY JUST NEEDS TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, SO YOU'RE READY FOR NEXT MONTH.
[5. ALTERNATE SITE PLAN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT 230 W SH 332 IN LOT 1, SHIVAM SUBDIVISION]
FIVE, ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN, ADMINISTRATIVE.WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA DISCUSS THAT ANYMORE OR AT THIS POINT IN TIME, OR JUST READ THE STUFF THAT THEY GAVE US A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS.
YEAH, I ALSO SAW IT IN THE PAPER.
AND I'D SAY JUST LET'S ALL READ UP ON IT AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT MEETING, IS WHEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT ALL.
NUMBER FIVE, ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN, ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT TWO 30 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 3 32 IN LOT ONE CHAVA SUBDIVISION.
IT'S, UH, SPEAKING ON THE GAS STATION, TWO 30 WEST SOUTH, THE HIGHWAY, STATE HIGHWAY 3 32, SHAVAN, UM, SUBDIVISION.
WELL, LAST TIME WE SPOKE WE HAD SOME QUESTIONABLE, UH, CHANGES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT STRAIGHTENING OUT.
MAINLY ONE WAS WE, WE WERE QUESTIONING THE BORDER OF 3 32, HOW MUCH OF IT THAT TXDOT WAS GONNA TAKE.
UM, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, OUR ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER HAPPENS TO BE HERE WITH ME TODAY.
WE'VE GOTTEN WITH TXDOT SEVERAL TIMES.
WE WERE ABLE TO NAIL 'EM DOWN, AND AT THIS POINT, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE US ANYTHING SOLID BECAUSE IT'S STILL WORKING.
AND WOW, IT'S STILL, UM, THEY STILL HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ON EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF THAT EXPANSION THEY'RE GONNA TAKE.
WE WANTED TO ENSURE YOU MAINLY, I THINK WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION BEFORE THAT IF THEY DID TAKE OUT SOME OF THAT, THAT AREA, THAT CURB AREA, THAT WE WOULD LOSE SOME OF THAT PARKING UP AGAINST THE CURB.
AND WE STILL, EVEN IF THEY WERE TO COME IN AND TAKE THE PROPOSED EXTRA FIVE FEET, UM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE OVER 40 FEET FROM THE CANOPY TO THAT FAR, FAR CURB.
THE PARKING SPACES WOULD MOVE, BUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT CHANGE.
UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY MOVE, WE, WE THROWN IT AROUND TRYING TO GET A, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WERE AT 47.
WE NEEDED TO GET LIKE 13 MORE PARKING SPACES ADDED.
WE WERE JUGGLING BACK AND FORTH DIFFERENT IDEAS, AND STRATEGICALLY WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A WAY TO PUT THEM IN WITHOUT LOWERING E EITHER OUR PUMPS AND DISPENSER COUNT OR EXPANDING OUR CONCRETE.
AND NOW IN THE POND WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND OUR CONCRETE IN FRONT OF THE POND, UM, WHEN WE WENT OVER THAT, THERE WERE SOME TREES IN THE POND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAD QUESTION, WERE THOSE TREES GONNA STAY OR WERE THEY GONNA MOVE? AND WE'VE UPDATED THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE I MAY BE JUMPING THE GUN.
BUT WE'VE UPDATED THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND THEN SPOKE WITH THE ENGINEERS TO THAT.
WE'VE SATISFIED THE TREE COUNT OVER THERE.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE 76 TREES AND WE'RE ONLY REQUIRED FOR 36.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, YEAH, I'M OPEN
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FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT'S REMAINING.SO, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GAVE YOU ON, ON MY MEMO TO YOU.
UH, THE, UH, WHAT HAPPENED AT, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THERE IN THE FIRST PORTION OF THE, UH, THE SIDE PLAN, UH, THIS, UH, AND, UH, AFTER A RECAP OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, MEETING, SHOWED THAT FOR THE MOST PART YOU WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT HE HAD BROUGHT UP AS A CHANGE IN HIS PLAN, NOT MEETING THE ACTUAL REQUIRED PARKING, BUT COMING, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE CONSERVATIVELY, UH, CLOSE TO THAT, UH, AND, UH, NONE OF THE, ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL, ARE STILL CONTINUED ON AND WITH THIS NEW SITE PLAN.
SO THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES IN PART IN, UH, SO NOW IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE SECOND PORTION OF THAT MEMO, THE BUILDING STILL REMAINS THE SAME, WHICH YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE BACK THEN.
UH, THE TYPE OF CONVENIENCE STORE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT EITHER.
UH, THE PARKING SPACES THEY ORIGINALLY CAME UP WITH 47.
WELL, THERE, THEY STAYED WITHIN THAT SAME CONDITION.
THEY HAVE 45 REGULAR PARKING SPACES, THREE A D A SPACES, AND TWO SEMI TRACTOR SPACES.
UH, ON, UH, THE, UH, ON, ON THE DISPENSERS, THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED AT ALL.
THE ONLY THING THEY MADE IT FOR A FAIRLY, I'M NOW CLEAR HOW MANY, UH, 70, UH, SEMI DISPENSERS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE, THEY'RE PUTTING THREE OF THOSE, I BELIEVE.
YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I CAN SEE FROM THE PLAT, I MEAN FROM THE, UH, SIDE PLAN.
SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE STAYED AWAY, STAYED IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY PROPOSED TO YOU LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO AT LEAST CONSIDER, UH, FOR, FOR APPROVAL.
UH, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE, UH, IN ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, PERMITTING THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, PERMIT FROM TECH STOP BECAUSE AFTER ALL, THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, HAVING TO APPROVE THE, UH, DRAINAGE PLAN THAT GOES INTO THEIR SYSTEM.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK TOWARDS.
I'M, I'M SURE THAT IT'S ALREADY IN PROCESS.
AND THE, UH, AND IN DOING SO, THE DRAINAGE PORTION OF THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT TEXDOT WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE 'EM TOW THE LINE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND THEY'RE FAIRLY STRICT ON THAT.
THEY'RE CONDITIONS ARE PROBABLY WORSE THAN OURS AS FAR AS DETENTION REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE OUR SEWER LINES UNDER THAT AREA, WHICH TAKES OFF? NO, THERE ARE SEWER LINES.
THE SEWER LINES RUN AND THERE'S ONE SEWER LINE THAT IS, UM, I GUESS IN QUESTION NOW WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, ORIGINALLY WE, UH, ORIGINALLY WE OBTAINED A, UH, AN EASEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT IS FLATTED.
NOW IN THE PLANT ITSELF, THE EASEMENT THAT THEY PROVIDED US, WHERE WE DO HAVE A WATER LINE THAT GOES INTO THAT PROVIDES, UH, SUPPLY TO THE GOLF COURSE AND TO SOME OF THE AREAS AROUND THAT, UH, CORRIDOR, UH, THERE AREN'T ANY SEWER LINES IN THAT PARTICULAR ONES.
THE ONES THAT ARE IN THERE ARE ON THE EASEMENT ON THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY OF T STOCK ON THE 2004 SIDE.
WE HAVE A LARGE TWO, TWO LARGE FORCE MAINS GOING THROUGH THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT AT ALL INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
THE LINE'S GOING OUT TO, UH, TO THE, UH, GRASS POINT? NO, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SANITARY SEWER OVER THERE.
BRA POINT IS SERVED BY AN AEROBIC SYSTEM, THEIR OWN PER, UH, PRIVATE AEROBIC SYSTEM THAT, THAT LINE ONLY GOES WITH FIRE HYDRANT.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS PROJECTIONS THAT EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD BE, OH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT, A LOT OF YEARS TO FALL TO, TO PASS ANYTHING.
SO THERE'S NO MAIN PIPES GOING OUT THERE? NO, NOT EVEN IN OUR MASTER PLANS.
DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY PARTICULAR LARGE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING OVER THERE? AND IF IT DOES, IT'S GONNA FALL ON THE, ON THE, UH, ON THE DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE, ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT
UTILITIES ARE NOT A A, A QUESTION WHATSOEVER ON THIS ONE.
THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING THEIR SERVICE LINES GOING SERVICING, WHICH ARE GONNA BE MINIMAL BECAUSE THEIR DEMAND IS NOT GONNA BE THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE A HIGH CONSUMPTION TYPE OF,
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YOU KNOW, ENTITY.SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ANY PROBLEM.
WOULD, WOULD WE PROBABLY REQUIRE THAT TRUCK ENTRANCE BE FROM THE 3 32 SIDE? UM, RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO ENTER.
UH, IT'S GONNA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT WITH THOSE LINES, BUT, UM, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THEY'RE GONNA ENTER FROM THE 3 32 SIDE AND GO THROUGH THE, THE FILLING STATIONS FOR THE TRUCKS AND THEN LEAVE ON THE 2004 SIDE.
SO THE TRUCK'S COMING DOWN, 2004 WOULD KNOW THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE N SIX.
WE WERE GONNA PUT A SIGN OUT JUST TO RIGHT.
GIVE YOU KNOW AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I'M AN ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
AND, AND TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THE, ON THE TECH DOT EXPANSION ON 3 32, UH, IN 2015, THEY DID HAVE PLANS THAT WERE DRAWN UP FOR WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE, AND THEN IT KIND OF STALLED OUT.
AND SO CURRENTLY, BASED OFF OF THE ENGINEER THAT I WAS TALKING WITH OVER AT TXDOT, THEY'RE BACK IN THE PLANNING STAGES OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A SET AMOUNT YET.
UM, THEIR GOAL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING PUBLISHED BY SEPTEMBER OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE.
AND THEN THEIR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO DEVELOP, UH, THE STORM DRAINS.
THEY, IN 2015, THEIR PLAN WAS TO CONVERT IT TO UNDERGROUND PIPES.
UH, THEY'RE NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE OR IF THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK WITH THE DITCH SYSTEM.
SO THOSE, THOSE, THAT DETERMINATION WILL TELL US HOW FAR BACK WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THAT CONCRETE.
UM, THEY SEEMED VERY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRANSITION WORKS REALLY WELL BETWEEN THEM AND US.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY WEREN'T EVEN IN A POSITION TO REALLY DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TAKING THEY'RE GONNA HAVE.
EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD TO ME, MATTHEW.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE, UH, WE NEED, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE, UH, OFTEN THAT THE SITE PLAN ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? I I'LL DO IT.
I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT AS AN ALTERNATE PLAN.
THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT SITE OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT TWO 30 WEST, SOUTH STATE, STATE HIGHWAY 3 32.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[6. LANDSCAPE PLAN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION AT 230 W SH 332 IN LOT 1, SHIVAM SUBDIVISION]
PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN.SO HE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
DO I NEED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN? NO, NO.
I HAD THE SAME, I I WASN'T NERVOUS TILL I HAD TO READ THE
UM, I, I THINK SOMETHING THAT BROUGHT UP LAST TIME WAS, DO WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE TREES IN THE POND? AND, UM, I ACTUALLY TOUCHED ON THAT WITH TEXDOT AND THEIR PROPOSAL WAS EITHER REMOVE THEM OR BUILD CONCRETE WALLS AROUND THEM, THE HEIGHT OF THE POND, UH, WHICH ISN'T FEASIBLE.
SO, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO REMOVE THEM AND WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THOSE IN OUR TREE COUNTS.
UM, THE UPDATED TREE COUNT SHOULD BE ON THAT PLAN.
UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND I THINK THAT THE ENGINEERS HAD SOME CORRECTIONS ON SOME OF OUR MATH.
UM, BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO KEEP AROUND 76 TREES, UH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE BASED OFF OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THAT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL IN CASE, UH, FOR REPLACEMENT IF SOME OF THEM WERE TO DIE.
AND, UH, YES, UH, IT IS CORRECT.
WE, UH, WE GAVE THEM SOME, UH, SOME, UH, SOME OF OUR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT DEAL.
THEY HAD SOME MATH PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ONE.
SO WE SENT 'EM WHAT WE THOUGHT WE UNDERSTOOD.
UH, THIS AREA, LIKE HE EXPLAINED, IS GONNA BE ELEVATED HAD THEY HAVE TO ELEVATE THAT THING.
AND OF COURSE, THE, UH, THE, UH, DETENTION AREA ALSO WILL REQUIRE THAT A BIG LOSS IS, IS GONNA HAPPEN THERE AS FAR AS THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ACCORDING TO THE TREE SURVEY, MOST OF THEM WERE NOT WHAT WE CONSIDER HERITAGE TREES OR TREES OF THAT GREAT VALUE.
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SOME, UH, THERE, THERE WERE ABOUT 21 OF THOSE OVER THE 20, UH, 20 INCH VARIETY.UH, AND OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, UH, THE TYPE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE ALL, THEY WERE ALL OAKS.
SO THERE WERE ALL THE OTHER TYPE OF TREES THERE.
BUT, UH, OF THOSE, MOST OF THEM, UH, MOST OF THEM DID FALL SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH IN THE, UH, WORK AREA.
SO THEREFORE THEY WERE GONNA GO BY RAISING THAT, UH, THOSE PADS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
UH, SO ALTOGETHER, LIKE HE SAID, THERE'S GONNA BE OUT OF, OUT OF 250 TREES IN THIS TREE SURVEY ORIGINALLY, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 177 WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED THAT FALL WITHIN EITHER OF THE WORK AREAS.
THE, UH, THE BUILDUP AREA OR THE, UH, UH, DUG UP AREA.
UH, THE ONLY 70 THREES OF THE ENTIRE TWO 50 WILL BE REMAINING THERE.
36 OF THOSE TREES ARE, NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, PRESERVATION TREES THAT WILL BE CARRIED ON AS PRESERVATION TREES UNTIL THEY EITHER DIE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, UH, NATURALLY.
AND, UH, OF THOSE 70 THREES THAT TO REMAIN 36 OF THOSE WILL, UH, 37 WILL BE DESIGNATED AS RESERVE TREES IN ORDER TO BE THERE TO COMPENSATE FOR WHATEVER DOES, YOU KNOW, DESTROY IS DESTROYED DURING THE COURSE OF, OF THE YEARS.
MOST OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE IN THE VERY END, AT THE VERY NARROW END OF THE, UH, OF THE TRIANGLE THERE.
THEY ARE, UH, REQUIRED TO HAVE SCREENING ACCORDING TO ORDINANCE.
AND THEY, UH, THEY WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT.
THEY DID, FOR THE MOST PART, TRY TO, TO PUT IT A SCREEN AROUND THAT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SITE THERE, FROM THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THERE.
THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC IRRIGATION.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT IT SHOWS THERE IN THOSE, UH, IN THOSE LANDSCAPE AREAS.
THE SCREENING, IS THAT FOR HEADLIGHTS? UH, OR, OR JUST COSMETIC? IT'S A VISUAL COSMETIC OF THE PARKING SPACES.
SO WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HEADLIGHTS AND FATE.
WELL, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA WHERE HEADLIGHTS ARE.
YEARS AGO THEY DID THAT AT A CHURCH OVER THERE ON LAKEWOOD.
AND, UH, THIS WAY I THINK, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY, THE BERM WAS 300 FEET FROM THE CHURCH, BUT SOME PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDED THAT WAS PROBABLY COTTON'S PLANNING COMMISSION.
WELL, PROBABLY SO, SO, UH, UH, IT IS A, IT IT IS A VIABLE, IT IS, UH, AND APPROVED AS FAR AS, UH, FOR PRELIMINARY OTHER THAN FOR THE DETAILS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SENT THEM NOW TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE, UH, ARE GIVEN, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER GIVING HIM, UH, APPROVAL AS A, AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AT THIS STAGE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION, TWO 30 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 3 32 AND LOT ONE SHIN VAN SUBDIVISION ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW HER COMPLETE RECOMMENDED ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
I DIDN'T SEE THE WORD PRELIMINARY IN THERE.
SO, ADMINISTRATIVE, ADMINISTRATIVE, ADMINISTRATIVE DEFINITIONS.
WE HAVE DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO WE GOT SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS THAT'S GONE TO THE SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS BECAUSE IT WAS RELATIVE TO
[9. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
COTTON, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS OF ANY INTEREST? LANDER REACHED, SIGNED IN WITH HOUSTON IS AWESOME.[00:25:01]
WE RECORD THAT FREE? NO, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD AFFORD THE METS ARE EATING QUITE A BIT OF THE CONTRACT.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THEY WEREN'T HELPING THE METS RECORD
HARRY HAD TO GET THE LAST WORD IN THERE.
AND SAL, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME.
AND I KNOW EDDIE CAN ALSO IS WHEN, WHEN I'M COMING AROUND AND I DON'T KNOW ALL OF, I THINK IT MIGHT BE PARKING WAY, UM, WHEN I'M COMING AROUND, LET'S SAY THAT I'VE COME PAST WORST HOUSE, THE, UM, WAYSIDE, POLY POP, WHATEVER, TURNING RIGHT AND THEN CONTINUE ON TO WHERE WE FINISHED THE INTERSECTION WHERE YOU WOULD TURN LEFT TO GO TO THE LOCAL OR TURN RIGHT TO GO BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THE WORST HOUSE AREA.
HERE'S WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT MORE THAN ONCE, AS I'VE COME THERE TO TURN LEFT, TO GO TOWARD THE LOCAL OR WALGREENS, THAT LAST PARKING SPACE ON THE LEFT AND GO LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S A COMPACT CAR AND IT'S REAL EASY TO GET THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OF TRAFFIC COMING THERE AND IT'S RIGHT OR LEFT.
BUT I DROVE PAST THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WAS A DUALLY WITH A, UM, UH, TRAILER HITCH, YOU KNOW, WHICH REALLY STUCK OUT.
AND SO I KIND OF HAD TO MANEUVER MY CAR AROUND THAT ONE TO GET THERE TO WHAT I REMEMBER MAYBE AS A STOP SIGN RIGHT THERE, UH, TO TURN LEFT OR TURN RIGHT.
LET'S JUST LOOK, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE EVERYBODY COULD DRIVE PAST THERE AT DIFFERENT, I'VE COME PAST HER AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY DURING BUSINESS IN THE EVENINGS WHEN THE PLACES ARE KIND OF GOING DOWNTOWN.
AND I THINK THAT THAT ONE PARKING SPACE, UM, IS IT RIGHT CLOSE? IS IT RIGHT THERE AT THE UH, AT THE DOMINO'S IN THE DOMINO'S AREA? UH, NO, THE, UH, SLEEP CENTER.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT BIG TWO STORY DOCTOR'S PLACE THERE.
AND I GUESS IF YOU KEPT GOING THERE, YOU WOULD GO INTO R AND M TELEPHONE, LIKE IF YOU WENT STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AND THEN TO YOUR LEFT WOULD BE CARRIAGE AND LOCAL.
THAT IS PART OF THE, THE PROJECT, THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT.
THAT AREA HAS TO BE STRIKED UP SO THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC IS FUNNEL INTO THAT INTERSECTION.
I THINK THAT EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN IS LOOKING GREAT.
AND I THINK THAT GIVEN THE A HUNDRED DEGREE WEATHER YOU'VE HAD THE LAST TWO MONTHS, THE FEW TIMES I'VE STOPPED ON YOUR JOB, EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT.
SO, SO I'M, I'M REALLY, UH, PROUD OF ALL OF Y'ALL AND YOU'LL FINISH ABOUT THE TIME THAT
I TOLD EDDIE, I SAID, EDDIE, SOMETHING WRONG HERE.
HE SAID EITHER OUR DESIGN IS INCORRECT, UH, EVEN BEFORE THEY FINISHED.
YEAH, I SAW THAT THING AND, AND HE SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST LET IT GO UNTIL IT HAPPENED, UNTIL THEY FINALLY FINISHED, THEN WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND MAKE THOSE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS THERE.
UH, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN SING HONEY BROUGHT IT ALSO TO OUR ATTENTION THERE.
WE ARE GONNA BE PATCHING, I MEAN, UH, CUTTING THAT OFF AS FAR AS, UH, WITH, WITH PAINTING.
I THINK THAT'S A, A SOUND UHAND.
WE DIDN'T WANNA LOSE SPACES THEREAND.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE THERE.
AND THAT IS A SPACE THAT WOULD FEED EITHER TOWARD THE LOCAL OR IT WOULD FEED A WORST HOUSE.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THE ITALIAN PLACE IS NO MORE.
I I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT MIGHT BE TEMPORARY
NO, I HEARD IT WAS THE, THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE NAME.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S CLOSING.
WELL THEY ENDED UP BRINGING THE WRONG FIELD FOOD TO US, SO WE GOT A FREEBIE
SEE, OTHER THAN THAT, NO, I THINK YOU GOOD MATT? OUR ATCH PROJECT, OUR ATCH PROJECT, I TEND TO SAY THE OTHER DAY, OUR ATCH PROJECT THAT SEEMS TO BE A, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR PACKETS WE WERE GIVEN AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE FENCE LINE THEY CLAIMED THEY WERE GONNA PUT UP AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
THEY CLAIM THEY WERE GONNA PUT UP, I HAVE COUNTED ABOUT 12 INCONSISTENCIES HERE AND I'M VERY CONCERNED
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ABOUT THAT.I MEAN, I, I EVEN TOOK OUT MY, MY ROLLER TAPE MEASURE AND EVERYTHING AND STARTED MEASURING STUFF THAT THEY CLAIMED ON THEIR PARKING LOT.
AND THEIR PULLOUTS, THEIR PULLOUTS ARE NINE FEET NARROWER THAN WHAT THEY CLAIMED THEY WERE GONNA BE ON THEIR DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THEIR GARAGES.
SUPPOSED TO BE 48 FEET, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WHAT THE PAPERWORK SAID.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HOW IT'S GONNA WORK OUT FOR RESIDENTS.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE TO SEE WHAT THE, HOW THE LAYOUT WENT.
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DID COME UP WITH SOME OF THAT 'CAUSE IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
THEY, THEY SEEM TO BE TAKING SOME INTERESTING ROUTES OF CONSTRUCTION AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE JUST BETTING THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING OR IF WE'RE NOT COUNTING BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE CAUGHT 'EM.
I MEAN, 80 HAS CAUGHT 'EM IN SEVERAL THINGS ALREADY.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OTHER THINGS.
THEY HAD TO DO SOME RETROFITTING, WHICH IS EXPENSIVE.
SO NO, THERE'VE BEEN CASES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD'VE BE CATCHING THEM.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT CATCHING 'EM.
I JUST YEAH, NO, I, IT SOME OF THE THINGS, 'CAUSE I, IT GOT TO THE POINT THEY WERE KIND OF STARING AT ME LIKE I WAS TRYING TO ROB THE PLACE OF COPPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
AND IT WAS SO YOU WERE THE ONE, I WAS THE ONE THEY WERE PROBABLY CALLING ABOUT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LIKE SOME WEIRD GUY IN A YELLOW VEST IS WALKING AROUND WITH NO ID ON AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, THAT WAS ME.
IT'S JUST SO I, I KNOW IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO QUESTION WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITHIN REASON, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T, WEREN'T BEING LIVED UP TO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WERE PRETTY STAUNCH ON WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH THEM AND MAKING OUR PLEA WITH THEM AND THEY'RE MAKING THEIR PLEA WITH US.
AND, UH, I'VE ALSO NOTICED A COUPLE OF TREES THAT WERE OKAY MAGICALLY.
UH, WELL THE TREES, THE TREES WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
AND WE MADE A CALL ON BOTH, UH, BOTH CONDITIONS THERE.
THEY MADE SENSE AND THEY WERE NOT GONNA BE SURVIVING.
AND, UH, JUAN WAS AT THE REQUEST OF A, UH, OF A, UH, LOCAL, UH, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AFRAID THAT WAS GONNA GO DOWN.
THAT SEEMS TO BE AN INTERESTING PROJECT OVER THERE.
ARE THEY JUST PAINTING? WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE, YEAH.
WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE TRYING, BUT YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK IT TO THE, THEY TOOK IT TO THE LIMIT.
I SPOKE TO THE ARMED SECURITY GUARD THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN I DROVE THROUGH THERE AND HE ALLOWED ME TO WALK THROUGH ONE OF THE THE OH, YOU DID THEIR FOURPLEX UNITS? YEAH.
SO IT WAS INTERESTING, UH, ESPECIALLY THE WAY, RIGHT NOW THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE ELECTRICAL METERS THAT ARE ALL MOUNTED? MM-HMM.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, OH, THOSE ARE CONSTRUCTION.
NO, THOSE AREN'T CONSTRUCTION.
I COULD TELL THEY WERE PERMANENT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU, GAS AND ELECTRIC METER BANKS.
WELL, I GUESS ART POOL BUSHES OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT'S UNATTRACTIVE.
ARE THEY AT THEIR FINAL COLOR OR IS THAT A PRIMER THAT'S ON THEM? NO, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, THAT'S THEIR FINAL COLOR.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE OLD DUPLEXES ON STEROIDS.
WELL IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GO, YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR THREE D RENDERING AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE PICKING OUT NOW, IT'S LIKE, OKAY GUYS, I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO CLASS THE JOINT UP THE TIDBIT.
THE INFLATION PROBLEM GOT TO 'EM TOO.
SO YEAH, THEY START, THEY STARTED HAVING TO CUT DOWN MOST OF THEIR, MOST OF THEIR STAFF THAT STARTED THE PRO THE PROJECT NO LONGER WITH THEM.
OH, WELL THEY'RE NOT GONNA SELL.
I, I, I WANT NOTED THAT I CALLED HIM ON THAT.
I CALLED HIM ON THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.
I KNEW THAT WAS SOME MISLEADING INFORMATION.
RENEE, ANYTHING TO SHARE? MODESTO? NOTHING SIR.
ANYTHING NEW IN TOWN HAPPENING? I HAVE TO DEFER TO, TO DAVID.
SO WHEN HE COMES, HE'LL, HE'LL KNOW.
HE'LL KNOW MUCH MORE THAN I DO.
MILFORD, DO YOU THINK? NO, DAVID.
YOU'LL SEE LOUIS'S IS STILL OPEN THOUGH.
SO THERE IS ONE, UM, UH, GENERALLY AS WE KNOW IT'S CLOSED.
UM, THEY HAVE MADE A CONTRACT WITH NEVILLE'S VERY OWN J CAFE.
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SORRY, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF IT? JAY'S J CAFE AND VILLE CAFE RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.IT ALWAYS MAKES YOU WANT TO PULL OVER.
I WOULD NOT COUNT ON IT UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST BUY THE PIE.
SO I, I SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MENU SHOULD GO OVER REALLY WELL.
I YEAH, I, I WANT APPROVE THAT.
DRIVE THROUGH ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? UH, THEY, THEY'RE START THEY'RE FINALLY STARTING THE BUILDING FOR, UM, UH, CAS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CLOSED EL CHICO DOWN FOR SIX MONTHS BEFORE YES.
WE FINALLY START THE BUILDING.
CHICO HAS SURVIVES GIVEN HIM SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW? VERY WELL.
OH, SUPER YUMMIES MOVING INTO, AND HERE'S, HERE'S ONE OF THE REASONS UE CLOSED.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THE SUSHI COMPETITION ACTUALLY.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE YOSHI'S, YOU HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE DOING SUSHI IN ADDITION TO SUPER YONI, WHICH IS GOING INTO WHERE CC'S WAS.
THE OWNER SAID, LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
FULL HISTORY PARTY ON SABRINA EDDIE.
UH, WELL, I GUESS, UH, THE BILL IS YOUR OH YEAH.
UM, THEY ARE, I GOT SOME COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENT RIGHT BEHIND WHEN ARE THEY GONNA PLANT.
AND, UM, SO DAVID HAS TALKED TO 'EM AND GIVEN THEM A DEADLINE TO GET HIM OCTOBER 31ST.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR PLANNINGS IN AND HE'S ASKED FOR A, A SCHEDULE, A PLANTING SCHEDULE, I GUESS.
UH, TO TRY TO GET HIM MOTIVATED TO GET THOSE IN THERE.
IT'S KIND OF RUNNING SMOOTHLY AT THE MOMENT.
UM, IT'S NOT A, NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE IN.
WHEN'S OUR THAT RESTRICTION CUT YOU OFF.
[10. SET NEXT MEETING DATE – Tuesday, October 3, 2023]
OUR NEXT MEETING? WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH.EVERYBODY CHECK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SURE.
UH, THAT ONE I WILL, SEPTEMBER 6TH.
LABOR DAY PUSHES EVERYTHING BACK.
YOU'RE NOT IN ALASKA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE IN ALASKA OR NO? NO.
YOU NEED A MOTION TO ACTUALLY, I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GOOD ON THAT DAY.
YOU'RE GOOD TO GET BACK THE DAY BEFORE YOU.
I'M GLAD TO KNOW IT'S WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY.
I MEAN, PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR.
'CAUSE I COULD HAVE BEEN UP HERE BY MYSELF.