* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023 AT [Call to Order] 25 OAK DRIVE, UH, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS. SO WE'LL BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILMAN HANYA. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHAT ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR TEXAS FLAG. THE TEXAS ONE STATE, STATE UNDER GOD ONE. AND IF YOU JOIN ME IN INVOCATION, UH, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, DAY AND, UH, MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON US. WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR TROOPS AS THEY CONTINUE TO PROTECT US FROM THOSE THAT WANNA TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS. PLEASE PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY LOOK OVER US EVERY DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE GREAT COMMUNITY. UH, BE WITH THEM, BE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DAILY LIVES AS THEY SERVE THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE SERVE OUR CITIZENS, AND THAT YOU LOOK OVER THOSE THAT WE REPRESENT. YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. [PRESENTATIONS] ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS PRESENTATIONS, UH, TEXAS A AND M, UH, AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICES, KIMBERLY MAYER. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL, HOWDY, HOWDY, HOWDY. THIS EVENING. I'M HERE ON HERE ON BEHALF OF TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION. MY JOB AS THE BRAZORIA COUNTY HORTICULTURE AGENT IS NOT ONLY TO OVERSEE THE BRAZORIA COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE ROBUST EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING ON ALL THINGS HORTICULTURE RELATED, FROM TREES TO TURF TO TOMATOES. IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF LOCAL RESIDENTS AND CULTIVATE THE KNOWLEDGE NEEDED TO BE A GREAT GARDENER. I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT A AGRILIFE EXTENSION IS THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN TEXAS, BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE DON'T WANNA KEEP IT A SECRET ANYMORE. THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE IS A UNIQUE EDUCATION AGENCY WITH A STATEWIDE NETWORK OF PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS, TRAINED VOLUNTEERS, AND COUNTY OFFICES. FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, THE AGENCY HAS IMPROVED LIVES ACROSS TEXAS BY DELIVERING INNOVATIVE SCIENCE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND EDUCATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF HEALTH, AGRICULTURE, AND ENVIRONMENT IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE. TODAY, WE CONTINUE THAT LEGACY OF SERVICE, BRINGING TOGETHER TRADITIONAL OUTREACH AND MODERNIZED TOOLS TO REACH TEXANS RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE. ONE SMALL PART OF MY JOB IS TO SHARE OR WHAT EXTENSION CALLS INTERPRET TO CITY LEADERS AND STAKEHOLDERS LIKE YOURSELVES, AND SHARE WHAT WE DO AS AN AGENCY. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS ALL ABOUT. ONE SUCH EXAMPLE OF A HORTICULTURAL PROGRAM THAT I HELD RECENTLY WAS THE STRAWBERRY JAMBOREE. THIS FUN AND EDUCATIONAL EVENT TAUGHT HOMEOWNERS WHEN AND HOW TO PLANT STRAWBERRIES. YOU MAY NOT REALIZE THIS, BUT NOW THE FALL IS THE BEST TIME TO PLANT STRAWBERRIES, NOT IN THE SPRING WHEN THE NURSERIES AND THE BIG BOX STORES CARRY STRAWBERRY PLANTS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS BRING IN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AND AGRILIFE EXTENSION RESEARCH SPECIALIST, DR. RUSS WALLACE, TO SPEAK ON THIS EXACT TOPIC. AND IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT HE WAS AN ABSOLUTE HIT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, TYLER FREBERG FROM FREBERG FARMS CAME AND GAVE US A BRIEF, UM, HISTORY AND OVERVIEW OF HIS FIFTH GENERATION FARM IN ALVIN AND HOW FROS GROWS, UH, PLANTS AND GROWS STRAWBERRIES FOR THEIR PICK YOUR OWN STYLE FARM. AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAD ONE OF OUR VERY OWN FAMILY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AGENTS SHARE A PRESENTATION ON CANNING STRAWBERRIES. IT WAS A JARRING EXPERIENCE. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THIS, WE ALSO PROVIDED THE PARTICIPANTS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE STRAWBERRY PLUGS SO THAT THEY COULD PLANT THEM AT THE RIGHT TIME OF YEAR AND HARVEST THEM IN THE SPRING. THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE GO TO THE BRAZORIA HORTICULTURE COMMITTEE SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE QUALITY PROGRAMMING FOR OUR RESIDENTS. NOT ONLY WAS THIS AN ENGAGING EXPERIENCE FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, I'VE CREATED A MULTI-COUNTY DEMONSTRATION TRIAL TO TEST AND COLLECT DATA ON THE SAME VARIETIES OF STRAWBERRIES THAT WE WERE SELLING. THIS SIMPLE VARIETY TRIAL WILL HAVE HORTICULTURE AGENTS FROM, OF COURSE, BRAZORIA COUNTY, BRAZOS, GALVESTON, FORT BEND, AND HARRIS COUNTY [00:05:01] TRIALING THESE BERRIES, UM, AND DETERMINING WHICH ONES GROW BEST IN OUR AREA. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL MASTER GARDENERS WHO WILL ALSO BE PARTICIPATING AND SHARING THEIR DATA, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING SOME GREAT RESULTS FROM THIS. SO IF THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, WE ALSO HAD SEVERAL EXHIBITORS, A STRAWBERRY PHOTO BOOTH, REFRESHMENTS, AND EVEN A FOUR H UM, STUDENT WALKING AROUND TAKING PICTURES, UM, IN HER STRAWBERRY COSTUME. BUT THE REAL ICING ON THE CAKE WAS THE STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE CONTEST. WE HAD FIVE JUDGES WHO GENEROUSLY TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY DAY TO COME AND EAT STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE IN VARIOUS FORMS. UH, AND IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT I'M HERE TODAY. SO ALONG WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY, CONSTABLE EDDIE VARGAS, RICHWOOD, UH, MAYOR MICHAEL DURHAM, RICHWOOD, CHIEF OF POLICE, STEVEN MAYER, AND GALVESTON COUNTY HORTICULTURE AGENT STEVEN BRUGER HOFF, YOUR VERY OWN MAYOR, GERALD ROSOVSKY, UH, WERE ALL JUDGES IN THIS CONTEST. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT. HE HAD TO DO IT. IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY TOUGH JOB, VERY TOUGH JOB, BUT SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT. AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE, UM, THAT THEY ALL DID, THANKS TO THEIR JUDGING, WE WERE ABLE TO AWARD FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD PLACE WINNERS WITH A RIBBON AND A CERTIFICATE. SO BEFORE I PRESENT, UM, MAYOR WAZOWSKI WITH HIS CERTIFICATES, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I JUST WANNA MAKE A A COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE PROGRAMS THAT Y'ALL PUT ON. I MEAN, I'VE RECENTLY, UH, ATTENDED SEVERAL OF THEM. ONE OF 'EM WAS ON, UH, UH, LEGAL ON, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LEGAL ACTIVITIES, LEGAL COMPONENTS OF HAVING RANCH AND FARMLAND AND STUFF, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD. GOOD. THEN THEY FOLLOWED IT UP WITH, UH, UH, LEARNING HOW, SHOWING PEOPLE HOW THE BACKUP TRAILER YES. , I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS, UH, A RODEO IN ITSELF. SO, UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A BEST KEPT SECRET. AND I HOPE, UH, THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT AND, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, IT WILL SPREAD THE WORD ON ON THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT YOU OFFER. YES, I HOPE SO. SO I'M NOT THE ONLY AGENT IN THE OFFICE. UM, WE HAVE AN AG AGENT WHO PUT ON THOSE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS, THE TRAILER BACKING PROGRAM. UH, WE HAVE A COASTAL MARINE AGENT, AND WE HAVE TWO FAMILY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AGENTS AS WELL, ALONG WITH A REALLY GREAT SUPPORT STAFF. SO, UM, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO IF YOU TELL YOUR OFFICE, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A JAM UP JOB. WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S VERY, VERY KIND OF YOU. HOW LONG DOES IT TYPICALLY TAKE TO GET THROUGH YOUR MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM? SO, OUR, UH, INTERN PROGRAM ACTUALLY BEGINS IN JANUARY, BUT THE END OF JANUARY, IT'S A 10 TO 12 WEEK PROGRAM. UM, AND SO WITHIN 10 TO 12 WEEKS, YOU CAN HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF YOUR, THE EDUCATION PORTION THAT YOU NEED, THE EDUCATION HOURS, UM, AND THEN WE REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL 50 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO BECOME COMPLETELY CERTIFIED. BUT YOU HAVE A WHOLE YEAR, UM, TO GET THAT DONE. OH, WOW. UM, THIS 20, THIS PAST 2022 CLASS, WE HAD, UM, 22 INTERNS AND ALREADY I THINK WE, 15 OF THEM HAVE ALREADY CERTIFIED. SO WE HAVE A REAL GUNGHO MOTIVATED CLASS THIS YEAR. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE, UM, 60 PLUS PEOPLE WAITING TO GET INTO OUR 2024 CLASS. SO IT'S VERY EXCITING. I'M GONNA DO THAT IN MYER. GOOD. . WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. AND REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, WAS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CANNING, UH, PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAD AND WHAT I LEARNED THAT, I MEAN, I'VE DONE, DONE CANNING WITH MY GRANDPARENTS AND MY, UH, MOTHER. AND WHAT I LEARNED THAT DAY WAS IS THAT YOU DON'T LEAVE THE RINGS ON WHEN AFTER YOU'VE CANNED IT, THAT YOU TAKE 'EM OFF. YES. 'CAUSE IF YOU LEAVE THEM ON THERE, IT CAN SPOIL AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT. AND THEN IF IT LEAVE IT OFF WITHIN, YOU'LL KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY. SO YES, EXACTLY. IT WAS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD SEAL. SO THAT'S THAT. I LEARNED THAT. I NEVER DIDN'T KNOW THAT. BUT IT ALSO SAVES YOU FROM HAVING TO WHOLE BUY A WHOLE BUNCH OF RINGS ALSO. YES. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU'RE, IT'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN SOMETHING. YES, DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY AN EDUCATION AGENCY, THAT'S FOR SURE. SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT MAYOR GERALD ROSOVSKY WITH THIS VERY SMALL TOKEN OF, OF OUR APPRECIATION, UM, TO THANK HIM FOR HIS, HIS PHENOMENAL JUDGING SKILLS AT THE FIRST ANNUAL STRAWBERRY JAMBOREE. . YES. I THOUGHT SHE WERE BY YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED. YEAH. NO STRAWBERRIES. YEAH. AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT PLANTS FOR NEXT YEAR, SO, OKAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO, YES. APPRECIATE IT. ARE YOU GONNA NO, I'M, I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT MUCH. AND I'VE LEFT SOME EXTRA, UM, T-SHIRTS AND, AND GOODIES IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:10:07] OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE, UH, VISITORS' COMMENTS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VISITORS TO, UH, BRING A COMMENT TO COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON EITHER THE CONSENT AGENDA OR THE REGULAR AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY STAFF AND ONE VISITOR STILL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS A DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THIS IS WHERE ANY MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? ALL RIGHT. NOT HEARING ANY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO [CONSENT AGENDA] CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM ONE IS, UH, MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 16TH, 2023. ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES FROM KEEP LAKE JACKSON. BEAUTIFUL. AND ALSO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE. ITEM THREE IS APPROVED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, IS 2 4 0 0 5 WITH, UH, MISSOURI COUNTY FOR REPAIR OF ASPHALT LANES ON MEDICAL DRIVE. ITEM FOUR IS APPROVED. INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS 2 4 0 0 0 8, UH, WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY TO OVERLAY THE PARKING LOT AT MAG GRIFF PARK. ITEM FIVE IS APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH BISD FOR TWO BUS DRIVERS TO TRANSPORT, UH, PATRONS FROM THE RECREATION CENTER TO THE LAKE JACKSON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE FESTIVAL LIGHTS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 100, I MEAN $1,000. UM, ITEM SIX IS RESOLUTION NUMBER, UH, 9 3 1 APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR, UH, POLICE EQUIPMENT GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000, UH, FOR THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE FINANCE CORPORATION. IS THERE A REQUEST FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, HEARING ANY, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. I PRESENTED ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX. OKAY. I SECOND. I SECOND. SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN SHANYA AND THEN SECOND BY CONSTABLE BAKER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, REGULAR ITEM. IT'S [1. Approve the first reading of Ordinance No. 2278 to release a portion of the city’s extraterritorial jurisdiction to the City of Brazoria. – Sherri Russell] APPROVED FOR, UH, APPROVED THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 2 7 8 TO RELEASE A PORTION OF THE CITY EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION TO THE CITY OF ZORIA CHAIR. YOU WANNA, THIS IS WHAT, UM, YOU ALL DISCUSSED AFTER YOUR, AT YOUR LAST MEETING. IT'S BASICALLY AN ORDINANCE FIRST READING THAT, UM, SAYS THEY CAN HAVE THAT LITTLE BIT OF ETJ IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. THERE'S A MAP IN COLOR THIS TIME. UH, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN, WILFORD, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST AN AREA THAT, UM, IT'S BELOW. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER. I DON'T WANNA SAY THE WRONG SIDE. UM, THAT KEEP GOING LOWER. THERE YOU GO. IT, IT WAS JUST, IT'D BE JUST TOO EXPENSIVE FOR US TO END UP DEVELOPING AND THEY HAVE PLANS FOR IT. SO, UM, STAFF HAS NO PROBLEM IN, UH, RELINQUISHING THIS SMALL BIT OF ETJ TO THEM. OKAY. UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON IT BEFORE WE READ THE ORDINANCE? ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS BEFORE WE READ IT? AND THEN WE'LL, ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON RELEASING A PORTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION TO THE CITY OF BRAZORIA AND PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE. OKAY. AGAIN, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HONOR, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. 2 2 7 8 TO RELEASE A PORTION OF THE CITY'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION TO THE CITY OF BRAZORIA AS WRITTEN. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN SETH. SECOND AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BAKER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIED. FIRST READING. SO IT'LL BE BACK TO US NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING. UH, [2. Approve Resolution No. 932, casting 43 votes for candidates for the Board of Directors of the Brazoria County Appraisal District. – Modesto Mundo] ITEM TWO IS APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 3 2, UH, CASTING 43 VOTES FOR THE CANDIDATES FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF BRAZORIA, UH, COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS. WE'VE GOT, WE HAD NOMINATED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD NOMINATED TWO PEOPLE, UH, GAIL ROBINSON AND GLENN JONES. AND SO [00:15:01] NOW IT COMES TIME TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO WITH OUR 43 VOTES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH COULD BE ANYTHING. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE OUR 43 VOTES TO GLEN JONES. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, PLACE ALL OUR VOTES ON, UH, GLEN JONES. UH, AND YES, FOR BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH. SECOND. SECOND. COUNCILMAN BAKER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, UH, I DO. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES AND, UH, WE OUGHT TO, UH, SPLIT THE VOTES WITHIN THE TWO. OKAY. SO YOU A MOTION OR, SO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA MAKE A, UH, AMENDMENT, YOU'RE OFFERING UP AN AMENDMENT OR YOU JUST, UH, DISCUSS? I, I THINK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A SEPARATE. A SEPARATE, YEAH. WE HAD TO VOTE ON WHAT WE GOT. OKAY. NO, HE CAN AMEND, HE CAN, HE CAN OFFER UP AN AMENDMENT TO, TO DO IT, DO A SPLIT VOTE AND IT CAN BE VOTED DOWN. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF HE WANTS TO AMEND IT OR HE IS JUST DISCUSSING. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER UP, UM, AMENDMENT TO SPLIT THE VOTES, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES. OKAY. SO THERE'S A, UH, AMENDMENT, MOTION AMENDMENT, UH, TO SPLIT THE VOTES BETWEEN, UH, THE TWO CANDIDATES THAT WE HAD APPROVED, UH, LAST TIME. SO I GONNA SAY, YEAH, IT GONNA BE A, IT'S GONNA BE A, YEAH, A 22 AND 21. I MEAN, I DON'T CARE WHO, GUESS WHAT I MEAN. UM, WELL, DO YOU WANNA GO 2121 OR WHAT? I GUESS THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T ADD UP THOUGH. THAT'S ONLY 42. I KNOW, BUT YOU CAN JUST NOT DO THE THIRD, THE, THE FINAL VOTE. IT'S HOW DO YOU WANNA DO IT? I JUST WANNA SPLIT THE, EVEN WITH ONE WORD LEFT OVER THAT'S LEFT OVER. OKAY. SO YOUR AMENDED MOTION IS 2121 AND WITH ONE VOTE NOT USED. CORRECT. BASICALLY. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S YOUR MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT AMENDMENT? I HEARING ONE, THE, UH, AMENDED MOTION FAILS AND SO WE GO BACK TO ORIGINAL MOTION OF ALL VOTES, ALL 43 VOTES GOING TOWARD GLEN JONES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I'LL JUST SAY, I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT. I AGREED WITH NOT NOMINATING ANYBODY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT. SO JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD. OKAY. THE SAME HERE. I'M, UM, JUST PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD, NOTHING AGAINST, UH, GLEN JONES IS JUST, UH, MS. ROBINSON DID WHAT SHE WAS, UH, SUPPOSED TO DO IN THEIR POSITION AND HER POSITION DOES NOT AFFECT THE APPRAISED VALUES THAT WE ALL SEEING. AND, UH, JUST TO, UH, UH, PUNISH HER FOR WHAT SHE DID IS NOT, UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SHE HAS A SPECIAL INTEREST, UH, BECAUSE SHE'S A REAL ESTATE AGENT. WELL, YOU KNOW, MR. JONES HAS HAD ISSUES WITH THE APPRAISAL BOARD, SO IT MAY, HE MAY HAVE A PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST APPRAISAL BOARD AS WELL. SO IT COULD BE GOING BOTH WAYS. SO, UH, I DON'T PUT MERIT IN EITHER OF THOSE STATEMENTS AND THAT WAS MY REASON. OKAY. AND I, I MEAN, I WOULD JUST ARGUE ON THAT, THAT THE APPRAISAL BOARD HAS A VERY STRONG IMPACT ON WHAT OUR APPRAISAL RATES ARE. 'CAUSE THEY APPOINT THE CHIEF APPRAISER AND THEY HOLD THAT PERSON ACCOUNTABLE. AND WITH I, I WANNA PUT OUT THERE THAT I THINK MS. ROBINSON HAS PROBABLY NEVER BENEFITED IN ANY WAY OFF OF OUR APPRAISALS. BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY IN ANY INDUSTRY WHOSE INDUSTRY BENEFITS FROM US HAVING HIGHER APPRAISALS. THAT COULD BE A REAL ESTATE AGENT, THAT COULD BE A PROPERTY DEVELOPER, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S PUTTING THE, THE FOX AND THE HENHOUSE AND I THINK IT'S A BAD PRECEDENT TO SET. SO I WILL STAND BY THAT. OKAY. ANY HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. NA. OKAY. TWO AND FOUR. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. UH, [3. Approve Resolution No. 933 to suspend the effective date of CenterPoint Gas Rate Increases. – Sherri Russell ] ITEM THREE IS APPROVED. RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 3 3 TO SUSPEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR CENTER POINT GAS RATE INCREASE SHERRY. OKAY. UM, CENTER POINT GAS SENT US A NOTICE OF INTENT TO RAISE PRICES [00:20:01] SO THAT THEY COULD, THEY CAN MAKE $37 MILLION INCREASE IN REVENUE AS WE STILL RETAIN ORIGINAL JURISDICTION OVER THIS. WE CAN SUSPEND IT AND, UH, WE, WE NORMALLY DO THIS AND HAVE THE, THE COALITION CHECK INTO IT AND HIRE CONSULTANTS TO SEE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE RATES ARE AND IF THEY REALLY NEED IT. AND ALSO, WE ALSO THIS TIME NEED TO LOOK INTO WHAT THE EFFECT WILL BE IF THEY, THEY'RE LUMPING EVERYBODY IN, IN THEIR PART OF TEXAS INTO ONE DIVISION NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING IT SEPARATED. AND USUALLY IF YOU'VE GOT A DISASTER IN YOUR DIVISION AND THEY HAVE TO RAISE PRICES, IT'S JUST THERE IN THAT DIVISION. SO IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US, IT MIGHT BE BAD. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO. SO IF YOU ALL PASS THIS, THEN UM, THE RATES WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT AND IT WILL GO IN FRONT OF THE RAILROAD COMMISSION. WE, SO THERE'S USUALLY SOME SORT OF REDUCTION THERE. IT'S NOT, IT NEVER GETS DOWN TO AS LOW AS WE WANT, BUT USUALLY WHEN WE DO THIS, THERE'S A REDUCTION. WILL WE GET SOME FEEDBACK? LIKE ONCE IT'S GONE IN FRONT OF THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, WILL WE KIND OF GET MM-HMM. , HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. YES, YES. I'LL, I'LL DO THAT. ONCE IT'S ALL FINISHED, IT'S NOT FAST. SO WHEN IT'S ALL FINISHED, IT COMES BACK TO US TO STILL ACCEPT. IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT'S THE COALITION, THEY JUST SAY, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. BECAUSE IT IS A COALITION OF PEOPLE AND SOMETIMES THEY NEED A RESOLUTION. OKAY. THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RAPE CASES OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT RULES. SO AGAIN, IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, IT JUST STARTS THE PROCESS OF THE YES, IT STARTS THE PROCESS OF THE STUDY. OF THE STUDY, YEAH. YES. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE RESOLUTION? MODESTO, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SHERRY DO I NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION? NO, NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO NEED A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, WHICH IS TO RESOLUTION TO SUSPEND EFFECTIVE DATE OF CENTER POINT, UH, GAS PRICE INCREASES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 3 3 TO SUSPEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF CENTER POINT GAS RATE INCREASES. SECONDARY. ALRIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO PROVIDE COUNCIL MEMBER SETH AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SE UH, HANYA, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM THREE CARRY, UH, IS APPROVED. ITEM [4. Approve change orders 1-4 for the Beechwood Chemical Building project in an amount not exceeding $38,010 for a new contract amount of $946,453. – Debbie Webb] FOUR IS APPROVED CHANGE ORDER, UH, ONE DASH FOUR FOR BEECHWOOD CHEMICAL BUILDING PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO, NOT EXCEEDING $38,010 FOR A NEW CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $946,453. YEP. GOOD EVENING. UM, I BROUGHT WITH ME TONIGHT, UH, ERIC GREEN, HE'S OUR HR GREEN ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT. AND WE HAVE GIVEN YOU FOUR CHANGE ORDERS ON THIS PROJECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT. THEY HAVE ASKED FOR A FEW CHANGES AND WE WANNA GET YOUR APPROVAL SO THAT WE DON'T SLOW THIS PROJECT DOWN ANYMORE. UM, THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. THEY HAVE THE WALLS UP, THEY HAVE THE ROOF ATTACHED, AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA DEFER TO ERIC WHO CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, IS A STANDARD INDUSTRY PRACTICE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING ON GULF COAST THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET THE WINDSTORM REQUIREMENTS? YES, SIR. SO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN OUR PAPERWORK AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BUILDING SHOULD HAVE HAD WINDSTORM REQUIREMENT. UH, SO IN ORDER TO GET THIS THING MOVING, I'M BEING OKAY TO APPROVE ON THIS, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE OUR PAPERWORK TO INCLUDE, TO BE SPECIFICALLY CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE GULF COAST AND IT'S PART, ALL THE DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE REFER, REFER REFERENCED IN, IN THE BID PACKAGE AND, UH, THE CONTRACT. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME SITUATION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE ONLY SITUATION WE HAVE COME ACROSS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT HAS COST OUR TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DID CARE OF IT LONG RUN. YES, SIR. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THERE'S NOT OF ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ON THERE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED INITIALLY. HOW DID NUMBER ONE HAPPEN? LIKE DID OR WE CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT TO THAT [00:25:01] POINT? I'LL GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ERIC PLEASE. BUT, UM, THE CONTRACTOR HIRED A WINDSTORM ENGINEERING FIRM THAT LOOKED AT THE SLAB DESIGN AND THEN WANTED TO UPGRADE THE SLAB DESIGN. AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE GOT INTO THE WALLS NEED TO BE ATTACHED AND THE SLAB NEEDS TO BE TIED INTO THE WALLS AT THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP AND THERE NEEDS TO BE EXTRA BEAM IN THERE. AND SO, UH, FOR THEM TO GET THIS INSPECTED IN THE END, THAT'S WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDED, THEY'RE ENGINEER RECOMMENDED. AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT HOW THE FOUNDATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT. BUT SINCE THEY HAVE, UH, AN ENGINEER WHO'S GONNA CERTIFY THAT FOR THEM, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. SO YEAH, I MEAN, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE CLAN SHOWED A CERTAIN TYPE OF GRADE BEAM ON THE, IN THE SLAB AND, AND THE T-D-R-T-D-L-R ENGINEER WANTED TO CHANGE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE GRADE BEAM AND THE SPACING, THE STEEL. AND UH, SO HE WAS MAKING THE CLAIM THAT HE NEEDED TO DO THAT TO RESIST UPLIFT PRESSURE ON THE ROOF LINE, YOU KNOW, AND UH, SO THAT WAS THE, THE GIST OF IT. SHOULDN'T HE LOOKED AT IF WE HAD THE WINDSTORM IN THAT BEFORE HE MADE THAT DECISION? IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, SHOULDN'T HE LOOKED INTO THAT BEFORE HE MADE THAT DECISION? BID IT TO ME. YES. YEAH. AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE PLANS WERE, WERE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PRESCRIPTIVE. THEY WERE PRESCRIPTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ASKED THE CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE HIS TDLR ENGINEER TO, TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT PRESCRIPTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE THE TLLR REVIEW OURSELVES AND BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED IN THE PLANS OURSELVES UP FRONT. SO IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT STRATEGY ON HOW TO BID THE JOB. IT'S WHAT LED TO THIS. I THINK THAT'S THE ONE QUESTION. I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST QUESTION I HAD LAST WEEK, AND ERIC HAS PROFFERED THAT GOING FORWARD, BENETS W RIGHT. HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, PREVENT THIS, ESPECIALLY ON THE TDLR, IS THAT WE MAY TAKE THE EXTRA STEP AND HIRE THE WINDSTORM ENGINEER OURSELVES AND DETAIL IT OUT SPECIFICALLY VERSUS LEAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A WIGGLE ROOM. NO SPECULATION FOR YEAH, NO SPECULATION. RIGHT? BECAUSE ANYBODY'S ALWAYS GONNA BID THE LOWER BIT AND OUR END TO, WE GET INTO THIS ARGUMENT WITH THE TDLR ENGINEER, UH, STUFF VERSUS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE HE'S WORKING FOR THE CONTRACTOR AND NOT US DIRECTLY AS UP WHERE IF WE DO IT UPFRONT AND IT'S JUST LIKE THE LAST 5% OF ENGINEERING OUT WHERE WE KIND OF GAVE THEM THIS LITTLE BIT OF A WIGGLE ROOM. AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY TIE THAT UP IN, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND HIRE THE ENGINEER OURSELVES GOING FORWARD FRONT AND JUST, WE'LL SPILL OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT, YOU KNOW, FOUNDATION, THE EXACT DOOR, EVERYTHING WHERE THERE'S NO QUESTION IT CLOSES THE LOOP IF WE DO THAT. YEAH. IT'S, IT GAVE THEM A, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN WHO THEY WANTED. AND, AND THAT'S, SO THE CONTRACTOR CAME IN AND THEY WERE, I MEAN THERE'S THE, THE JOB WAS SPECKED OUT THAT IT HAD TO MEET WINDSTORM INSPECTION. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY BROUGHT, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THEY BROUGHT IN THEIR OWN PERSON AND THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING, WHO IS COMING IN NOW TELLING US, NO, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. IS THAT THAT CONTRACTOR'S ENGINEER OR IS IT SOMEBODY ELSE COMING IN OR IS IT THE INSPECTOR OR WHAT, WHO'S COMING IN TELLING US WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE? THE CONTRACTOR IS BY CONTRACTOR REQUIRED TO BUILD BUILDING THAT'S CERTIFIABLE. RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL, WE'LL GET THE TDLR TO COME IN AND DO AN INSPECTION AND SIGN OFF ON IT. AND SO WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THAT SIGNATURE. THAT'S, THAT WAS THE, THE ESSENCE OF IT. UM, BUT I GUESS THE, I, I GUESS I THINK WHAT SOME OF WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH IS, IS THAT IF THE CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BUILD US A WINDSTORM FROM THE GET GO, FROM THE GET GO, BUT NOW WE'RE COMING BACK AND SAYING, WELL, TO GET THERE IT'S GONNA COST US ANOTHER $17,000. IS WHY ARE WE PAYING THAT AND NOT HIM, THE CONTRACTOR? I MEAN, WHY WASN'T HIS ORIGINAL BID UP TO WINDSTORM CODE IN THE FIRST PLACE? IS THE QUESTION. YEAH, I GOTCHA. AND WE, WE, I I WE, WE'VE HAD THE SAME, UH, ANGST AND DISCUSSION FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS. WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO SPLIT THAT COST? WELL, I MEAN WE, UH, THEY CLAIM THAT THE, THAT THE PLANS DIDN'T DETAIL IT AND IT, BUT IT'S IN THE SPEC RIGHT. CLAIMS THAT THE SPEC, LIKE WHAT IS THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UH, WELL THE BID, YOU HAVE A SET OF BID [00:30:01] DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR THAT'S INCLUDING PLANS AND CONTRACT DOCS. LIKE HERE'S WHAT WE WANT SPEC SPECIFICATIONS. SO HE'S CLAIMING THAT THE PLANS WERE WHAT HE FOLLOWED A, HE DID THAT THE SPECS WERE JUST ANCILLARY INFORMATION FOR HIM WHEN FACT PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT IS, SO I'VE BID JOBS FOR 10 YEARS IN CONSTRUCTION AND THIS I WOULD'VE EATEN THIS. YEAH. THIS WOULD'VE BEEN ON US. YEAH. THAT'D HAVE BEEN MY FAULT. YEAH. IN THIS CASE, HAD I BEEN THE CONTRACTOR. YEAH, I GOTCHA. AND, AND, AND WE'VE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND, AND DISCUSS BECAUSE I MEAN, WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT HIS INITIAL DESIGN OR BID WAS NOT UP TO WINDSTORM, WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH INITIALLY. CORRECT. AND NOW THE WINDSTORM ENGINEERS SAYING, NO, YOU NEED THIS TO BE COMPLIANT AND UP TO STANDARD. LIKE HOW WOULD WE DO A DRAIN TANK PROTECTION THAT WASN'T TO CODE AND SAFETY STANDARD. THAT'S, BUT IF THAT ENGINEER WON'T STAMP IT, WE'RE ALL, IT'S AN ALL STOP. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING NO. AND SUGGEST WE'RE WE ARE AT THE POINT ORDER TO GET IT DONE. WE JUST SUCK IT UP TO TAKE IT FROM NOW ON. WE HAVE ALL OUR DOCUMENTS SPECIFIED WINDSTORM, SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS ISSUE ANYMORE. WELL, WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN YEAH. THAT LR OR WHATEVER. IT'S, BUT WE STILL NEED TO HAVE ALL OUR DOCUMENTS SPECIFIED. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, SO I'M NOT GONNA PUSH DOCUMENT, BUT I'M GONNA ASK, THERE'S NO WAY TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION TO GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND SAY, YOU NEED TO TAKE PART OF THIS BECAUSE YOUR WORK WASN'T RIGHT TO START WITH. DO YOU WANT TO GO THERE? I MEAN, ASK THE QUESTION. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. I MEAN, DOES HE WANNA LOSE A MILLION DOLLARS OR DOES HE WANNA LOSE 20,000? WELL, WE'RE ALREADY STARTED, RIGHT? WE ALREADY STARTED THAT WAS, UM, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO GET HIM LOWER AND LOWER AS, I MEAN HE ASKED FOR MORE THAN THAT. BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IS WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN AND REBID AND ALL THIS. AND THEY GET US OVER THIS EXACT BARREL EVERY TIME OF, OH, WE'RE ALREADY STARTED. ALL IT'S GOING TO HOLD UP THE PROJECT. THESE CONTRACTORS ARE NOT DUMB. THEY KNOW THAT UPFRONT. AND I'M, I'M FRANKLY A LITTLE TIRED OF ROLLING OVER AND PAYING FOR IT. YOU DID BAD WORK TO START WITH. IT WASN'T, IT WAS SHODDY WORK. YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THE SPECIFICATIONS CORRECT. YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT THE, IF THAT'S YOUR PROFESSION, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE WINDSTORM REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT THE CODE AND SAFETY STANDARDS ARE MINIMUM. RIGHT. IS THAT UNREASONABLE? YEAH. UH, NOT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. DEB, ERIC, HOW FAR ALONG WERE WE IN THE PROGRESS OF THE CONSTRUCTION? PROBABLY 40% UP AND ABOUT 85% ORDERED. SO, UH, WE SHOULD BE GETTING THE, UH, CHEMICAL EQUIPMENT IN THIS WEEK. UM, AND HOW LONG ELECTRICAL IS ALMOST FINISHED OVER THERE. AND HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN ARGUING WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON THIS POINT? ON THESE TWO POINTS? 12 MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE JUST DELAYING THE WORK. SO I MEAN, YEAH, I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, WELL, I'D SAY WE DELAY IT TWO MORE WEEKS 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. OUR REPRESENTATIVE HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE DID ALL THE ENGINEERING. YES. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN BRING IT BACK ON THE, ON THE 20TH. WE HAVE ONE MORE. I MEAN, WOULD Y'ALL BE COMFORTABLE WITH SPLITTING IT? I DO. I I HEAR YOU. BUT IT IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT. I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF COUNCILS JUST SAY, OKAY, OKAY, WE DON'T WANNA STOP PROGRESS. WE DON'T WANNA STOP THE WORK, DO THE RIGHT, DO THE WORK CORRECTLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE, IS THIS THE CONTRACT WE'VE USED BEFORE? NO, NO, NO. BUT IT IS THE CONTRACTOR WHERE SELECTED ALSO FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. RIGHT. THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER ON THE WASTEWATER. ABSOLUTELY. TREATMENT PLANT UPGRADE AS WELL. I'VE BEEN GETTING A VERY GOOD EDUCATION ON GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO. WE BID LOW TO GET THE JOB AND THEN WE GET INTO IT AND WE'RE, OH, BY THE WAY, OH, BY THE WAY, OH BY THE WAY, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ETHICAL. SO MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE A CHLORINE CONVERSION COMING UP. WHAT'S THAT? CAN I SAY THAT AGAIN? WE HAVE A CHLORINE CONVERSION COMING UP. IS THIS GONNA DELAY THAT? YES. IS IT? NO, IT'S GONNA HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THAT. NO, IT WON'T. OKAY. UH, SEPARATE. THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS POSTPONE IT FOR TWO WEEKS, HAVE ISSUE, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR SURE. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO. IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO HIM AGAIN. UM, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED THIS WITH THEM DOWN TO THIS LEVEL AND IT HAS JUST BEEN BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM. WHAT, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT HE STARTED WITH? WHAT DID HE INITIALLY WANT? YOU SAID YOU'VE GOT IT LOWER TO THIS LEVEL. WHAT WAS THE INITIAL, UM, WAS HE UP 45? I THINK WE PROBABLY HIS FIRST FIRST . YEAH. [00:35:01] SO INITIALLY, AND WHAT, I'M SORRY I IF WE ARE DOING THIS, SHE NEEDS SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DOES SHE NEED TO TELL THE CONTRACTOR? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT. I I I REALLY THINK THEY NEED TO PAY THE FULL 38 0 6 41 BECAUSE THEY SHOULD EAT THAT. BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR, UH, LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OR DECEITFULNESS ONE OF THE TWO. BUT I WOULD BE WILLING IN THE INTEREST OF COMPROMISE TO HALF IT. LET ME ASK ABOUT THE DOOR. UM, YEAH, BECAUSE THE DOOR IS, IT SAYS THE CONTRACTOR DID NOT INCLUDE THE PRICE DIFFERENCE IN THE INITIAL BID. WHY THE DOOR WOULD THOUGH, WOULD'VE HAD TO BEEN, IF I MAY, THERE IS $12,000. THAT WAS A MISTAKE BECAUSE THEY USED, THE ENGINEER USED AS BILL PLAN. SO IT WAS A 10 INCH HEADER, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S A 12 INCH HEADER. SO IF YOU CAN DEDUCT THE 12,000 AND FOR THE TIME BEING JUST APPROVE THE 12,000. SO WE TAKE CARE OF THE HEADER AND WE'LL SIT DOWN AND COME BACK, REST, REST OF THE ISSUE, WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE CONTRACTOR AGAIN. BUT THE 12,000, THAT WAS A MISTAKE BECAUSE THEY ON OUR PART ON THE PLACE. 'CAUSE IT WAS THE PLAN, THE AS BILL PLAN, THAT'S SO YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT I'M TIRED OF BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE BY THESE COMPANIES. UNDERSTOOD. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY BOUND SO MUCH BY STATE LAW ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND HOW WE CAN DO IT AND ALL THAT. AND THEN TO THEN ALSO HAVE TO EAT THE COST OF INCOMPETENCY. CORRECT. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS. AND I'M A TAXPAYER. I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR THAT. SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. UM, ITEM THREE, IS THAT A NEW ITEM OR WAS IT AGAIN, MAYBE A WAS IT SPECIFIED IN THE PLAN OR IS THAT MAYBE THE TANK WAS SPECIFIED IN? THE PLAN WAS, OKAY. UM, SO IT'S NOT SIMILAR TO ITEM TWO WHERE IT WAS A FIELD CONDITION? NO, I MEAN THAT, THAT THE TANK WAS THERE AND WHAT THESE COSTS REFLECT IS THE CITY'S DECISION TO PUT A CURB IN AND SOME GRA ON THE TOP OF THE TANK. SO THE ITEM THREE IS OUR CHANGE ORDER REQUEST, BASICALLY. SO ITEM TWO AND THREE ARE HOW DO WE PROTECT THIS TANK FROM BEING RUN OVER BY CHARGE. SO ITEM TWO AND THREE ARE, YEAH, YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE AFFECTED THOSE, THOSE CHANGES. SO, OKAY. OKAY. SO $14,530 IS ON US. SO, SO HOW MANY BIDDERS DID WE HAVE? HOW MANY BIDDERS? BIDDERS? TWO. AND WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE, THE LOW PRICE AND THE HIGH PRICE? UH, THEY WERE VERY CLOSE. THE OTHER BIDDER WAS MATULA AND MAYBE $140,000 MORE. AND HE WOULD'VE BEEN LOCAL? YEP. OKAY. AND I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION ON ITEM FOUR. OKAY. UM, THEY BID A NON-RATED WINDSTORM THAT WAS IN THEIR PRICE, A NON-RATED DOOR. YES. AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE UPGRADE COST TO BRING THE WINDSTORM? YES. SO THEY, AND THE, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF DOORS AND THE RAILING SYSTEM KEEPS THE DOOR SECURE. SO THE RAILING SYSTEM ON A ROLL-UP DOOR IS DIFFERENT. IF YOU WANT TO GET WINDSTORM INSURANCE, IT'S MORE SECURE. AND IS HE GIVEN US THE, UH, THE EXACT COSTS FROM THE, THE MANUFACTURER THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS? YEAH, WE HAVE MM-HMM . SO WE WOULD'VE PAID FOR THAT COST. HAD HE CAUGHT IT, HE WOULD'VE CHARGED US THIS EXACT AMOUNT. YES. BUT AGAIN, THE THING IS NO BETTER. I MEAN, HE, HE BID BELOW. YEAH, HE'S MAKING, HE'S MAKING IT, MAKING IT UP ON THE BACK, BACK END. HE'S MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS. THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER, IT'S INVALID CHANGE ORDER. I MEAN WE SPECIFIED WINDSTORM COMPLIANT. SO THOSE TWO ITEMS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BID. BASICALLY, IF THEY FAIL TO INCLUDE IT, THEN THERE'S THEIR PROBLEM. THEY SHOULD BE EATING IT. HE BID LOW, BUT THEN IN THE, AND ON THE BACK END, HE GETS US AND HE OUTBID THE, THE HIGHEST BIDDER. OKAY. SO TWO AND THREE THOUGH, ARE WE EFFECT, WE, WE MADE CHANGES AND EVERYTHING. WE MADE CHANGES. OKAY. CAN WE DO THIS, CAN WE, UH, GO BACK TO THEM WITH CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE AND, UH, THAT'S FOR THE SLAB AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND GO BACK TO THEM WITH CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR. AND THAT IS THE ROLL UP DOORS, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. AND THEN CAN WE ACCEPT NUMBER TWO AND THREE? THOSE ARE ON US REASONABLE? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, IF WE HAVE A YES, A MOTION FOR ITEM TWO AND THREE, CHANGE ORDER TWO AND THREE. SO MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND THREE CHANGE [00:40:01] ORDERS, UH, BUT TO DECLINE ONE AND FOUR AT THIS TIME. OKAY. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN SETH AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SHANYA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AGAIN, I WANNA BE PART OF THAT, THAT WE CHANGE OUR DOCUMENTATION THAT WE SAY IS AT BOTH PLACES. NOT YES. NOT JUST ONE PLACE. SO WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO DO THIS. SO, OKAY. BUT, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR OWN WINDSTORM DESIGN. IS THAT RIGHT? BUT STILL WE HAD TO HAVE IT IN THE DOCUMENTATION TO BE OWN PERSON. YEAH. THAT IS MR. HALL. HE'S, UH, I'D ASK THEM SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD WE, YOU KNOW, PREVENT THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE? AND HIS RECOMMENDATION, IF, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY IS JUST TO GO AHEAD AND BRING OUR WINDSTORM ENGINEER EARLY ON VERSUS THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING THE CONTRACTOR REQUIRED TO BRING THEIR ENGINEER ON SO THAT THERE'S NO, YOU ELIMINATE ANY GRAY AREA, IT'S SPELLED OUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THEN AND THERE. AND CAN WE, AND YOU GUYS MAY DO IT ALREADY, Y'ALL ARE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, CAN WE DO ALMOST LIKE WE WOULD DO WHEN WE HAVE AN INCIDENT IS AN RCI THAT WE DO INTERNALLY TO FIGURE OUT YOUR, THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY IT HAPPENED SO WE CAN CREATE ACTION ITEMS TO WHERE IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN, RIGHT. ON ANY KIND OF A CHANGE ORDER, BECAUSE YES, ONE IN FOUR IS GONNA GO BACK AND FIGHT THE CONTRACTOR, BUT TWO AND THREE ARE ON US. THAT'S $13,000. THAT WAS OUR FAULT. SO I THINK WE AT LEAST NEED TO LOOK AT A LOOK INTERNALLY AND SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN FROM OUR END ALSO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. ESPECIALLY NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE I THINK WAS A CHANGE IN THE FIELD, RIGHT. HOW THEY SAW IT. BUT NUMBER TWO FOR NUMBER, BUT TWO FOR SURE. LET'S JUST, LET'S LOOK AT IT AND THEN COME UP WITH A WAY, AN ACTION ITEM THAT MAKES SURE WE DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN. OKAY. IF THAT'S OKAY. IT'S REASONABLE. OKAY. [5. New Business Update – David Walton ] I'LL, UH, MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE. NEW BUSINESS, UH, UPDATES. OH, SORRY, IT WASN'T A VOTE. YES, IT WAS. WAS THERE? YEAH, IT'S APPROVED. YEAH, IT DID. I'M SORRY. IT WENT SIX ZERO. OKAY. UM, YEAH, ITEM TWO AND THREE WERE APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. ITEM, UH, FIVE IS NEW BUSINESS. UH, UPDATE. DAVID, THERE HE IS. GOOD EVENING. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU. UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LIST, YOU'LL SEE SOME, THERE'S SOME LONGSTANDING ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THERE. AS AN EXAMPLE, POLLY POPS, UH, PERMITTED BACK IN IN MARCH. HARMONY PARK PERMITTED LAST YEAR. UM, NEUROGENICS PERMITTED IN IN JUNE. THESE ARE ALL, UH, ON THE VERGE OF EXPIRING OR TECHNICALLY HAVE EXPIRED. AND WE'LL BE MAKING NOTIFICATION BACK TO THOSE, UM, OWNERS, DEVELOPERS TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS AND GET A TIMELINE FROM THEM. AND IF NECESSARY EXPIRE. THESE, THESE PERMITS. THE DOWNFALL OF EXPIRING A PERMIT IS IF BY THE TIME THAT THEY COME BACK TO REAPPLY, HAVE WE UPDATED CODE, UH, TO A, TO A NEW CODE, UH, HAS STATE LAW CHANGE THAT MIGHT AFFECT THEIR PLANS, IN WHICH CASE THEY COULD REQUIRE A REDESIGN, BUT IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE NEW, NEW PERMITS BE ISSUED, UH, WITH, WITH PERMIT FEES PAID. UM, MOVING ON FROM THERE, YOU'VE GOT SOME THAT, THAT ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. SUPER YUMMY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. UM, UH, THE LAKEWOOD MANOR, THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR FINAL HOUSES NOW. UH, WE DO KNOW THAT CAVENDER'S HASN'T TECHNICALLY STARTED, BUT THEY DID, UH, SUBMIT SOME REVISION SYSTEM PLANS, UH, ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO. SO THAT IS STILL VERY MUCH ON THE BOOKS. UM, HOME TWO SUITES, MOST DEFINITELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE CAN ALL SEE THAT. UM, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TONIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS? NO, THAT'S A GOOD VARIETY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVE ON TO, UH, ONE QUESTION. WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE RESTAURANT ON PLANTATION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE OLD CHURCH'S CHICKEN? YES. YES. THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY STILL ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD. UH, WE DO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE, UH, CONTRACTOR AS WELL AS THE OWNER. AND OUR INSPECTOR WAS OUT THERE LAST WEEK. AND WHAT DID YOU SAY IT WAS GOING TO BE? OR IT'S NOT IT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A SANDWICH SHOP. I HAVE HEARD THAT TACO MADRE IS GONNA MOVE INTO IT. UH, THAT WAS IS ONE OF THE FOOD TRUCKS ON PLANTATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AT, YOU KNOW, BEING BRICK AND MORTAR. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT CONFIRMED THAT, UH, IT WAS JUST A RUMOR I HAD HEARD, UH, WE HAD FROM MY STAFF HAD BUILDING RIGHT DOWNTOWN HERE THAT THEY COULD USE. UM, YEAH, WE HAVE [00:45:01] QUITE A FEW SPACES THAT THE ONE HAS BEEN A TACO PLACE. YOU KNOW, WE JUST USE A TACO PLACE. WELL, AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, NUNEZ IS MOVING INTO WHERE, WHERE LO STARDUST WAS. SO WE'LL HAVE GOOD TACOS DOWNTOWN IN ADDITION TO DOWNTOWN TACOS, WHICH SERVES BREAKFAST TO LUNCH. BUT WE SHOULD HAVE DINNER TACOS DOWNTOWN TOO. ARE YOU WORKING ON A FREE BREAKFAST TACO? NO, I'M NOT ADVERTISEMENT. YOU'RE TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. ? YES. IT'S TRYING TO COVER ALL THE BASES. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. [6. Staff Updates ] ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF UPDATES. SEE MANAGER, UM, FESTIVAL LIGHTS IS COMING UP. THAT IS TWO SATURDAYS, UH, FROM NOW. UM, WHAT IS THE DATE IS? I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN NOVEMBER 18TH. AND YOU SOMEONE WOULD 1718. 1718, YEAH. FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEN SATURDAY. UM, I GUESS ROBIN CAN GIVE A QUICK UPDATE. I'M SORRY, ROBIN. UM, UM, WE ARE HAVING A, WE ARE HAVING A PAJAMA JAM, CORRECT? YES. THAT'S FRIDAY NIGHT. I KNOW THE, THE LITTLE CARDS GOT SENT OUT OR LITTLE CARDS. BIG CARD MAILED OUT. YEAH, THE POSTCARD. SO SENT OUT. SO WATCHING YOUR MAILBOX, OR YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IT. MM-HMM. OF ALL THE EVENTS FOR FESTIVAL LIGHTS. MM-HMM. . YES. SO YEAH, WE'RE ON THE GO, UM, STAFF'S, I, I'VE GOT THE LIGHTS STUFF, PUTTING UP THE DECORATIONS, LOOKING NICE. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A BETTER PROCEDURE FOR IF IT RAINS ON CALLING THE EVENT. YES. THE COMMITTEE IS, UH, GOING TO GIMME THEIR RECOMMENDATION. UH, PROBABLY, UM, 11 ISH OR SO. WE'LL MAKE THE FINE, I THINK THE CALL, UH, I'LL MAKE IT AT, UH, AT NOON, I BELIEVE. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. SO, UM, THAT IS SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS AT THE SAME TIME WHAT DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE AND WHY THEY'RE BEING MADE. SO, UH, MODESTO WILL HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HE WILL TALK WITH, UM, CONSULT WITH. AND THEN WHEN HE MAKES THE DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL GO INSIDE, BECAUSE THE WEATHER MIGHT BE BAD ON, THAT WILL COME OUT ON FRIDAY AT NOON ON SATURDAY, UM, THE DECISION WILL BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PARADE AT NOON ON SATURDAY. THAT DECISION IS FINAL AND THAT DECISION WILL GO OUT IMMEDIATELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I WILL BEGIN AT THAT MOMENT, UH, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND SEEING WHAT THE RESPONSE IS. AND I WILL WORK WITH MODESTO TO ACTIVELY MONITOR THAT NARRATIVE SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITH EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE MOUS WITH MANY, MANY, UM, POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE BANDS COMING, WE HAVE VENDORS THAT ARE COMING, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE. YEAH, I THINK EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARTICIPANTS REALLY NEED TO KNOW EARLIER THAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION THERE, WE WERE HOPING FOR BETTER WEATHER. IT JUST DIDN'T TURN OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, PUSHING IT, THE DECISION LATER AND LATER JUST MAKES IT TOUGHER AND TOUGHER. SO THE WEATHER MAY WIND UP TURNING OUT GOOD AT SIX 30, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST TOO HARD TO, YOU KNOW, TO START TELLING, YOU KNOW, POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF. WELL, WE'RE NOT SURE YET. YOU MAY HAVE TO COME AND BACKING THEM OFF. AND THEN THE ALTERNATE DAY, WE'VE TRIED AGAIN, OUR HISTORY, WE'VE TRIED THAT, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE VENDORS. HALF OF 'EM COME, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT DAY THEY DON'T WANT TO COME. THEY'VE GOT COMMITMENTS AND YOU GET LOW ATTENDANCE. SO IF IT DOES RAIN IT OUT COMPLETELY, THEN IT'S JUST, IT'S A WASH. YEAH. THAT'S HARD TO PARADE. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COMMITTEE'S LOOKING AT IT. UM, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, I MEAN, PUBLIC WORK SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, EVERYBODY'S ON THE COMMITTEE. THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION EARLIER AND THEN I'LL MAKE THE FINAL CALL, YOU KNOW, AT NOON AND WE'LL GET THAT MESSAGE OUT. BUT WE HAVE A GOOD CONTACT SYSTEM THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT EVERYBODY WHO HAS REGISTERED FOR THE PARADE. ALL THE WHO'VE REGISTERED. YES, WE HAD THAT. WE HAD THAT LAST YEAR. WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM. WHAT WE, YEAH, WE HAD THE, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTACT PEOPLE. IT WAS JUST, IT WAS SO LATE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMING OR THEY WEREN'T COMING. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ASHLEY WAS DOING EMAILS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO YES, WE HAVE A GOOD WAY OF LETTING PEOPLE GO. I THINK THE, THE, THE STRUGGLE, WHICH WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE, WHAT IT SEEMED TO BE WAS WE HAVE THE CONTACT FOR THE GROUP. MM-HMM. . BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE MAIN PERSON, THE PERSON PULLING THE PARADE. WE REALLY DEPEND ON THAT PERSON, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PARADE TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT THEIR PEOPLE ON THE FLOAT. WE DON'T HAVE ALL 20 PARENTS ON A PARTICULAR FLOAT, WE JUST HAVE THE PERSON WHO FILED THE FORM. YEAH. SO WE STILL DEPEND ON THAT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WHAT THE STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED, STARTING IT EARLIER [00:50:01] AND GETTING THAT MESSAGE OUT WILL HELP. MM-HMM. . YES. AND WE NOTIFY THEM TOO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, TO LET 'EM KNOW. AND THEN THAT'S THEIR, THEIR PLACE. THEY'RE OUR POINT OF CONTACT AND BE WATCH 'EM FOR IT. YES. AND THEN THEY'LL KNOW. AND A LOT OF THEM LAST YEAR TOO, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE WEATHER WAS SO BAD AND IT WAS COLD AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S TORRENTIAL LAST YEAR. YES. YES. OKAY. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. AND, UH, CHLORINE CONVERSION, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT CHLORINE CONVERSION. UH, DEB, DO YOU WANT TO COME AND SPEAK TO THAT? I'LL GET THAT REAL QUICK. UM, GOT ONE CORRECTION TO THAT CHLORINE CONVERSION. IT DOES START NOVEMBER 30TH AND IT WILL END DECEMBER 14TH. OH, I'M SORRY. SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. UM, AS SOON AS IT STARTS THAT FIRST WEEK, WE WILL START FLUSHING AT NIGHT AS SAME ROUTES AS USUAL, NORTH AND SOUTH OF OYSTER CREEK IS HOW WE DIVIDE THE ROUTE. SO, UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT THE FIRST WEEK AND GET A GOOD TUNED VERSION THIS TIME, NOVEMBER 30TH. UM, WE DON'T HAVE, THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES TO WHAT WE USUALLY DO. ALRIGHT. JUST, UH, THE DATES HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE EARLIER SO PEOPLE ARE HOME. YEAH. WE REQUESTED TO GET IT AWAY FROM, UH, THAT'S, THANK YOU FOR GETTING AWAY FROM THANK YOU. THANKSGIVING. YES. WE'RE KIND OF, YEAH, SPLIT THE MIDDLE THERE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, SO THAT'S GREAT. APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. , WELL, THANK THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR APPROVING THAT. IT'S, UM, BUT YEAH, WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GET IT DONE AS WELL IN BETWEEN HOLIDAYS. SO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS? NOPE. AND MAYOR, THE LAST THING, I THINK EVERYBODY IS KIND OF TENDERLY GIVING ME, YOU KNOW, A, A GREEN LIGHT. UM, THE CHIEF HAS, UH, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BOOK THEIR BANQUET FOR PD AND IT SEEMS LIKE DECEMBER 13TH IS, IF THAT SEEMED TO BE A GOOD DATE FOR EVERYBODY. RIGHT. I HAD A CHANCE TO ASK MATT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE DATE THAT WE'LL MOVE ON. WE APPRECIATE THE EARLY NOTICE. THAT HELPS. OKAY. UH, THAT'S IT SIR. WOULD YOU HAVE FOR ACTION ITEMS? ON THE ACTION ITEMS, WE HAVE ONE, FOUR, THE SECOND READING. NUMBER ONE, WE WILL, UH, COME BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND NUMBER FOUR, WE'LL EXECUTE THE, UH, CHANGE ORDERS FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE ONLY. AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR ON ITEMS ONE AND FOUR. OKAY. JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. UH, SINCE WE SAID WE'RE GONNA HALF IT, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THIS, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO HALF OR WE JUST GOING TO DEFER, ASK FOR DEFERMENT FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS? IT WASN'T CLEAR. MY MOTION WAS, I DON'T WANNA PAY ONE IN FOUR PERIOD. OKAY. UNTIL I GO BACK AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE WERE NOT HAVE IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT. WE DIDN'T WANNA QUARTER IT NOW. SO WE APPROVED TWO AND THREE. WELL, PREFERENCE IS THAT WE DON'T PAY IT AT ALL. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. NOW I WANNA CLARIFY THAT. YEAH. RIGHT NOW I HAVE IT AS IT'S BEEN DECLINED, RIGHT? CORRECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BOTH ITEMS, SO LET'S CLARIFY THAT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, [7. Construction Updates] ITEM SEVEN, CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. DO YOU LIKE THE NICE YOU LY SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW, MAN, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. DO WE HAVE NICE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NICE LITTLE FLOWERS WE HAVE DOWNTOWN? OH YEAH. DON'T SAY ANYTHING. . UH, WELL THEY ARE TRYING VERY SLOWLY TRYING TO GET THOSE PLANTINGS IN THERE. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THEY, HOW THEY ACTUALLY DO BUSINESS, UH, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT IN THOSE FLOWERS IN A, A DAY, IN A DAY OR SO. YEAH. AT THE RATE THAT THEY'RE GOING THERE. UH, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN ALL THROUGH THIS PROJECT. UH, THE ONLY THINGS THAT REMAIN HERE, UH, UH, AFTER DRESSING UP ALL THOSE, UH, ISLANDS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'LL BE REMAINING IS THE, UH, THE RAILING AT THE, UH, DOWNTOWN TACOS. AND THAT IS, UH, GONNA BE, WE'RE EXPECTING HOPEFULLY THAT AFTER THE WEEK AFTER THANKSGIVING, THOSE RAILINGS WILL BE UP. UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE DEEP STEP. YEAH. THAT'S WHERE THE DEEP STEP IS. YEAH. IT'S GONNA BE A RAILING THERE. SO THE ACCESS TO THAT WOULD BE, IT'S AROUND, IT'S AROUND INSTEAD OF OKAY. IT'S AROUND THERE. THERE'S THE RAMP THAT'S YEAH. THE GRASS ALL THE WAY, THE EDGE AND IT'S, OR THE END OF THE AUTO STORE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST CORRECT. THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN ELEVATIONS BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE DOWNTOWN TACO THRESHOLD, YOU KNOW, EXCEEDED THE ADA. SO IT COULDN'T BE AN ADA TO HAVE A RAMP IN THERE. SO THEY WENT TO THE SIDES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT, UH, ADA RAMP ACCESSIBLE. UH, AND IT'S SURPRISING HOW PEOPLE JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY ABOUT 20 FEET AWAY, THEY CAN, [00:55:01] THEY CAN, THEY REALLY, THEY CAN'T SEE THAT RAMP BEING AS THE RAMP. UH, THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, A LADY WAS A LITTLE BIT LOST THERE TRYING TO SAY WHERE, HOW DO I GET OVER THERE WITH, THERE'S 20 FOOT AWAY IS THE RAMP THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD. IT'S HARD. PEOPLE LIKE TO TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE, TO THE FRONT. YEAH. SO THIS WILL CLEARLY DELINEATE THAT, THAT WILL CLEARLY THAT THIS IS A PATIO. AND THE PATIO WAS REQUESTED BY THE OWNER WHEN DURING THE DESIGN OF HAVING A PATIO WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT, YOU KNOW, TABLES AND CHAIRS. SO THIS'LL PREVENT ANYBODY WALKING INTO THE PATIO AND STUFF. IT'LL BE A PATIO. AND EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOW SOME, UH, LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT PLATFORM ALMOST, AND THERE'S GONNA BE GRASS THERE, REMAINING PORTION OF IT, UH, THAT WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE JUST START WALKING THE CLOSET SIDEWALK. THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF. I DO HAVE A QUESTION JUST ON HOW, 'CAUSE THIS ALL HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS INVOLVED. SO WHEN IT CAME TO CHOOSING THE PLANTS AND THE TREES AND ALL THAT, WHO MADE THOSE DECISIONS? WAS IT PLANNERS? WAS IT COUNCIL? NO, UH, IT, IT REALLY WAS STAFF. STAFF TRY TO MINIMIZE THE LANDSCAPE BECAUSE OF THE BAD, UH, RESULTS WE HAVE HAD IN THE OTHER SECTIONS OF TOWN DOWNTOWN. WE TRIED EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD. UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, WENT DOWN TO WHAT NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE CALLED FOR SOME, WHAT WE CALL LIA GRASS, WHICH IS THAT LONG STENT TYPE GRACE, THAT FEATHER TYPE OF GRASS THERE. UH, IN SOME PLACES IT, IT WORKED AND SOME IN MOST PLACES IT DID NOT WORK. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE PARKS RECTOR REALIZE THAT, AND THE PARKS RECTOR NOW IS REMOVING ALL THOSE AND COMING BACK WITH NOTHING BUT PLAIN OLD ROCK SOUND, BASICALLY WHAT I'M BECAUSE WE HAD HAD, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SUCCESS WHATSOEVER. SO IN THE PLANNING OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE DECIDED WE WE'RE GONNA GO MINIMAL ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. WE'RE GONNA GO MINIMAL ON THE IRRIGATION 'CAUSE OF THE FARMS WE HAVE HAD ON THE CONTROLS THEMSELVES AND ON THE TOP OF, UH, OF LANDSCAPE. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE SELECTED MONTANA, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE MORE DURABLE, UH, PLANTINGS CAN'T KILL IT. CAN'T KILL IT. YOU CAN'T KILL IT. UH, AND ALSO ON THE, UH, KNOCKOUT ROSES, WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BETTER RESULTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN MEDIUM TYPE OF OFFICE CONDITIONS. UH, AND SO NOW WE EVEN LIMITED THE, UH, ON THOSE, ON THOSE SMALL STRIPS THAT WE HAVE ALL OVER TOWN NOW THAT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM AREA. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT ANYMORE. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION. THIS CONVERSATION CAME UP AT SHRED DAY OF HAVE WE CONSIDERED WHEN WE HAVE PLANTINGS AND DOWNTOWN THINGS LIKE THAT TO CONSULT WITH SOME OF THE KEY LAKE JACKSON BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE? 'CAUSE YOU GOT SOME VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ABOUT PLANTS AND ABOUT LOCAL FAUNA AND FLORA. YOU'VE GOT QUITE A FEW MASTER GARDENERS IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY END UP TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF THAT STUFF WHEN THEY'RE DOING DOWNTOWN CLEANUPS. BUT JUST MAYBE A GOOD KIND OF SYMBIOTIC. SO WE DON'T, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BACKTRACK MAYBE AS MUCH WE CAN ON THE NEXT PHASE IN 2037. SALLY, YOU'RE CHARGE OF THAT. SAL, YOU WOULD PASS THAT ON, HUH? WITH THAT? YEAH. YOU CAN GET PAST THAT MESSAGE ON. GREAT, GREAT. UH, ON, UH, ON OTHER PROJECTS, UH, THE, UH, THE AZA STREET CROSSING, THEY POURED THE SECOND HALF, OR AT LEAST MOST OF THE SECOND HALF OF THE AZALEA CROSSING SATURDAY, UH, AZALEA STREET THERE ONLY LEAVES THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE ACCESS. UH, THEY WILL TRY TO DO THAT PROBABLY AROUND SEVEN DAYS IF THE BREAK IS, UH, IS OKAY ON THIS LAST, UH, ON THIS LAST, UH, PROJECT AT LAST FOUR, SO, AND BEYOND THAT ONE, WE ARE LOOKING PROBABLY AROUND TWO MORE WEEKS THERE. SO I'M GONNA SAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THREE WEEKS, THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT, UH, SEVEN EXCEPT SOME OF THE DRESSING OF THE, OF THE ROAD ITSELF. AND THAT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG EITHER. SO THAT'D BE ANOTHER COMPLETED JOB. UH, WE BID OUT THE, UH, THE, UH, BOND PROGRAM, STREET BOND PROGRAM FOR THE NORTH OAKS. RECENTLY WE HAD, WE, WE WERE ALREADY AWARE OF THE COSTS AND SO WE, UH, ARE NOW GONNA BE LOOKING AT THOSE, UH, THOSE FIGURES AND SEE HOW THEY CAN BE MET. THOSE OVER, UH, OVERRUNS IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN [01:00:01] THE COST, UH, THAT CAME BACK THE BID. SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT ONE. UH, MR. MUNDO CAN I GUESS ADDRESS THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF HE WANTS TO. BUT WE'RE, FIRST, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE NUMBERS. UH, AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, PUT OUT OUR, OUR RF QS ON THE NEXT TWO BOND ISSUES. ONE WAS THE, UH, THE, UH, MOSS CHESTNUT, UH, STREET PROJECT. AND SO THOSE ARE OUT FOR A DESIGN ENGINEER. AND THE SAME THING WHO GOES FOR THE, UH, THE ASPHALT PROJECTS, WHICH ARE THE, THE, UH, SLEEPY HOLLOW AREA, THE, UH, WILLENBERG, UH, UH, STREET AND THE BALLS OF THE REMAINING PORTION OF, UH, OF ASPHALT STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TENDED TO, UH, LATELY. SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO GETTING ENGINEERS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. WE, LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AREA THAT ARE PEOPLE ARE RUNNING OVER BY THE PARKING PLACE, OVER BY THE, UH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM RM. DID YOU LOOK, HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. RUN THAT BY ME AGAIN. SO WHEN YOU WERE COMING FROM, UH, THE CITY HALL AND ON PARKING WAY MM-HMM. . AND YOU COME ALL THE WAY TO THE END WHERE YES. CORRECT. CORRECT. WELL, I MEAN, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE AND, UH, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A, WHEN YOU'RE IN, WHEN YOU ARE MAKING A LEFT U-TURN MAKING, MAKING A, YOU ARE MAKING A U-TURN FACING YES. FACING MAKING A U-TURN INTO THAT THING. YOU'RE FACING A, THAT IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE OLD PARKING WAY NOW, THE CENTRAL PARKING WAY. THE, UH, TURN GOING. IF YOU GOTTA MAKE A U-TURN AT THAT, UH, THAT, UH, NOSE OF THE NEW, THE NEW NOSE THAT'S THERE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE EXPERIENCE ANY PROBLEM. I HAVE NOT HURT. NO. BUT YOU CAN SEE TIRE TRACKS ON THE, ON TOP OF THE NOSE. OKAY. UH, UH YES. THAT'S THERE. YOU CAN SEE 'EM. I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN THE, THE ONLY THING IS THAT WE CAN DO IS RECONSTRUCT THAT NOSE AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WANT TO TACKLE THAT ONE AND JUST LET PEOPLE, UH, FIRST OF ALL GET USED TO THAT AND MAYBE PAINT IT YELLOW, JUST THE CURB. OR WE CAN, YEAH, WE CAN PAINT IT SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE NOTICEABLE. WELL, IT'S, THEY'RE RUNNING OVER IT. YEAH. SO IT OUGHT TO BE NOTICEABLE THAT THEY'RE RUN, RUN YELLOW PAINTS. NOT GONNA, ALL THAT'S GONNA DO IS BE SOMETHING THAT WE GOTTA PAINT EVERY YEAR. CAN YOU PULL IT A LITTLE CLOSER? YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLOSE TO KEEP PULLING. SOMEBODY WILL RUN OUT. PEOPLE RUNNING OVER IT. YEAH. BUT SMALL CARS, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING OVER IT. THEY'RE RUNNING INTO IT. IT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. YOU SEE THE, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. RIGHT THERE. YEAH. RIGHT. WELL, BUT IF YOU SEE THAT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A U-TURN, IT LINES UP PERFECTLY COME FOR TRAFFIC COMING OVER. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH LINING UP THE, THE, THE SIDE. THE, I'M SURE THAT DURING THE DESIGN, IT ALL HAD TO DO WITH LINING UP THE CROSSINGS AND THE, AND THE SIDEWALKS. THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THAT NOSE TO GO OUT SO FAR. YEAH. THEY TRIED TO PROTECT IT. YEAH. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS, IF YOU DO A UI, YOU'RE GOING, YOU FACE INTO THE TRAFFIC ONCOMING TRAFFIC IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. YEAH. PEOPLE DON'T, AND SO PEOPLE COME, YOU KNOW, COME JUST KEEP, KEEP GOING. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T STOP. WELL, THERE'S A STOP SIGN THERE, RIGHT. THEY SHOULD BE STOPPING. YES. AN ONCE YOU WENT THE TURN INTO THE TURN, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING YOU GOING ON AND MAKING A LEFT TURN, NOT BEING A U-TURN. SO THEY STARTED, I I GUESS AT SOME POINT WE CAN'T HELP STUPID YOU TALKING ABOUT A REAL ESTATE BUSINESS. OKAY. SO I'M NOT GONNA GO SPEND, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GO FIX, TO DO ANY CHANGE HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST PEOPLE GETTING, BECOMING AWARE OF IT AND GETTING USED TO IT. IT'S JUST HOW MANY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT PAINT IS. THOUSAND. THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THAT THING WHERE WE SHOULD, I DON'T SEE WHY PAINT WOULD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND PAINTING THAT, WHY THAT WOULD DO ANY GOOD BECAUSE BLENDS IN WITH A STREAK AND YOU CANNOT SEE IT. MM-HMM. BECAUSE THE, IT'S SIX INCH CURB. THE DOMESTIC RESTAURANT. HEY, VINNE, THIS REMINDS ME OF THAT THING WHERE THEY SAY, TAKE THE WARNING LABELS OFF OF EVERYTHING AND KIND OF LET EVERYTHING SORT ITSELF OUT. AND EVENTUALLY PEOPLE HAVE TO COME FIGURE IT OUT. THE PAPER ON YOUR SUBWAY SANDWICH SAYS DON'T EAT THE PAPER . BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT POINT. I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS, IF THIS NOSED INTO THIS LANE, IT DOESN'T NOSE INTO THAT LANE. IT'S NOT CUTTING INTO THIS LANE. IT IS. SO THE ONLY PROBLEM, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE SAYING IS WHEN PEOPLE DO A UI, THAT IT'S AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE DOING A UI. AND I PERSONALLY, I I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S AN ISSUE IF YOU'RE DOING A UI, THERE'S A CURB THERE AND IT'S A RAISED CURB. IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF IT WAS JUST PAVERS, BUT IT'S A RAISED CURB. OKAY. [01:05:01] WELL THERE'S NO WORRY ABOUT IT. I MEAN, SOLD. I HAVEN'T DONE THE U-TURN. IS IT DIFFICULT TO DO THE U-TURN THERE? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT ANY MORE DIFFICULT DOING THAT U THAT U-TURN THAN BECAUSE THIS IS, THAN THIS. THIS IS A TIGHTER U-TURN RIGHT HERE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. THAN THAT. SO THIS IS A WIDE OPEN U-TURN. MM-HMM. . AND AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A WIDE INTERSECTION, IF SOMEBODY COULD STOP HERE AND THEY COULD ASSUME THAT THIS PERSON THAT'S ALREADY IN THIS INTERSECTION IS GOING TO TURN LEFT. MM-HMM. . AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE DOING A UEY, THE OTHER THING YOU COULD DO IS PUT A NO U-TURN SIGN THERE AND JUST NOT LET PEOPLE DO EYS THERE. THAT WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER THAN RE RECONSTRUCTING THAT NOSE OF THAT. AND NOT ONLY RECONSTRUCTING THAT NOSE, YOU'D HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THIS SIDEWALK TO WHERE THE SIDEWALK WOULD COME LIKE THIS TO GET THAT SIDEWALK. 'CAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE PROTECTED IF YOU TAKE THAT NOSE OUT. MM-HMM, . ALRIGHT, LET, LET'S LEAVE IT ALONE. LET, LET, LET PEOPLE DO WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. SO, NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BUT, UH, THAT, NO, THAT, THAT'S THE'S THE EXTENT OF IT, OF THE DISCUSSION. [ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] ALL RIGHT. UH, NEXT THING WE HAVE, UH, IRON WITH CUNY INTEREST. UH, MATT? NO THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NAME, UM, I DID, BUT I DON'T. YOU DID, BUT YOU DON'T. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, CHASE? NO SIR. RHONDA, I'VE GOT TWO, TWO VOTING IS TUESDAY. 14 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ON THE BALLOT? YES, SIR. AND, UH, I WANNA TAKE JUST A MINUTE TO BRAG ON THE KEY PLATE. JACKSON. BEAUTIFUL. BUT ALSO ON THE PUBLIC WORKS. UH, WE HAD SHRED DAY SATURDAY, UH, HAD A COMPLETELY FULL TRUCK. IT WAS, PEOPLE WERE LINED UP AT 7:00 AM UH, WE GOT 47 PAIRS OF GLASSES, 25 POUNDS OF PLASTIC, 15 CELL PHONES. AND LIKE I SAID, THE TRUCK WAS FULL. UM, SO THE CITY STAFF, WE'VE HAD THOSE BIG TRASH CANS AND UH, THEY, WHEN THEY GOT IN THERE MESSING WITH THEM, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WEREN'T FULLY ASSEMBLED. LIKE THE WHEELS AND STUFF WEREN'T ON THEM. AND OUR CITY STAFF WENT OUT THERE AND THEY JUST DID A GREAT JOB. THEY PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. THEY HAD EVERYTHING STAGED THAT MORNING AND THEY JUST DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF HELPING LOAD 'EM UP FOR PEOPLE. AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB, DEB. THANK YOU. SO WELL DONE. I'M SHRED DAY WAS GOOD. OKAY. NO SIR. ALRIGHT. I DO REMEMBER MY THING BACK. I HAVE MY TIME BACK . SURE. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET I YIELD MY TIME THEN. THANK YOU. SO I DO WANT TO THANK THE, UH, CITY STAFF FOR GOING OUT THERE AND FIXING THE ROADS. THEY'RE PUTTING THE BLACKTOP ON THERE. I SEE A LOT OF BLACKTOP GOING IN ALL THE STREETS ALL AROUND TOWN AND JUST MAKING IT DRIVE, DRIVING A LITTLE MORE SMOOTHER AND, UH, SAFER. I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO WHY I'LL BE SPENDING MONEY ON IT. WE CAN JUST LET PEOPLE DRIVE OVER IT. SO THAT'S OUR NEW PHILOSOPHY. JUST SO, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DON'T, DON'T IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE HAVE, UH, VETERAN'S DAY PARADE IS, UH, THIS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH. AND THAT'S AT ANGLETON'S ANGLETON'S, UH, TIME TO DO IT. AND, UH, THEY'RE GOING ALL OUT. UH, SOMETHING TO DO WITH HAVING A CITY MANAGER THAT'S, UH, A VET HAS BEEN ABLE TO PULL A LOT OF STRINGS. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, VETERAN'S DAY PARADE. IF YOU CAN BE THERE. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, WHAT TIME THAT KICK OUT? SORRY, KICKOFF. UH, I'M NOT SURE. LET US FIND THE INFORMATION. WE'LL SEND IT TOMORROW. WILL, IT'S THE SAME. YEAH. DO WE KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME PATHWAY AS LIKE THE FAIR PARADE ON IT? I HAVE NO IDEA. ALRIGHT. I THINK, I THINK IT'S GONNA GO DOWN BY THE O INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL AND GOES DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. I GOT IT. I, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL ABOUT IT REMINDING ME ABOUT IT, AND ALL IT WAS WAS JUST A FLYER SAYING THE DATE AND THE TIME. AND I TRIED TO PULL IT UP WHILE AGO AND I COULDN'T PULL IT UP. I WILL CONTACT CHRIS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YOU GOT ANYTHING? STAFF? STAFF? NO. ALL RIGHT. DEAD SILENCE. . ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.