* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] [1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU HARRY. FIRST [2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YES SIR. YES. ANY ISSUES? YES. NO. NO. ALL GOOD. APPROVE THEN IN MATTHEW IS THE SECRETARY. ALRIGHT. VISITOR'S COMMENTS IF ANYBODY'S GOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO BRING UP THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, THAT'LL BE THE TIME. UH, AND GENERAL, ANYBODY THAT SPEAKS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. ALRIGHT. [4. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON ALTERNATE PARKING SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC PARKING SPACE COUNT REDUCTION FROM 5 PER 1,000 AS VALIDATED BY PARKING SPACE STUDY AND STORE BUSINESS MODEL STANDARD FOR A PROPOSED STOREWIDE REMODEL AND CURBSIDE EXPANSION AT 121 W HIGHWAY 332 FILED ON NOVEMBER 7, 2023] FIRST ITEM, FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON ALTERNATE PARKING SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC PARKING SPACE. COUNT REDUCTION FROM FIVE PER THOUSAND AS VALIDATED BY PARKING SPACE STUDY AND STORE BUSINESS MODEL STANDARD FOR A PROPOSED STOREWIDE REMODEL AND CURBSIDE EXPANSION AT 1 21 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32, FILED ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023. WE HAVE THE PODIUM. HELLO, . I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED TODAY, BUT UM, YEAH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING Y'ALL NEED, I'M HERE TO, UM, ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME ABOUT THE PARKING STUDY AND HOW THAT, UM, WAS GOOD FOR THE AMOUNT OF PARKING, PARKING SPACES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, UM, AND HOW THIS WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE STORE WELL. UM, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS. THAT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE CITY. UM, SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FOR ME, I CAN DO MY BEST. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T. ALRIGHT, JEFF? NO, I THINK SHE ANSWERED 'EM LAST MONTH. PERFECT. SHE DID. COTTON. YOU NEED? NO, I HAVE NOTHING. ALRIGHT. MATTHEW, ARE YOU GUYS FACING ANY OPPOSITION IN OTHER TOWNS? UM, AT TIMES IF THERE'S A PARKING CODE THAT DOESN'T MEET THE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THIS, IF IT'S A FIVE OH, AND WE'RE SEEING THE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS REALLY ONLY NEEDING A TWO AND A HALF. AND SO AT TIMES YES SIR. ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF, UH, LAKE JACKSON ARMY, THE AREA LIKE PEARLAND OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT? UM, I HAVEN'T DONE TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE. I HAVE. YEAH, I HAVE. WE HAVEN'T WORKED IN PARA, I DID A, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET IN PEARLAND A WHILE BACK. UM, AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WITH THAT ONE. WE MIGHT'VE BEEN ABLE. MAYBE THEIR RATIO IS A FOUR TO ONE, I FORGET. BUT, UM, I DON'T RECALL ANY, ANYTHING ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. . YEAH. OKAY. SAL, ANYTHING, UH, THIS BASICALLY, I MEAN, YOU, YOU GAVE THAT, UH, APPROVAL, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, VARIATION FROM THE, UH, REQUIREMENT, UH, TO WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK. YI MEAN, LAST TIME. UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS WE'RE REALLY FORMALIZING THE OVERALL UPDATING OF THE, OF THE SITE PLAN NOW. MM-HMM. , UH, TO HAVE THE PARKING, UH, AREA THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU, AND ALSO TO WHATEVER MODIFICATIONS TO THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE IS BASED ON, ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO. SO, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT AMOUNTS TO IS A, UH, MAKING THIS THING A FORMAL APPLICATION THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE AS AN UPDATE TO A, AN UPDATE TO A SITE PLAN THAT WE T TYPICALLY DO. UH, THEY NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NOW CONFIRMED ALL THE PARKING THAT'S IN THERE AND, UH, WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO IS THE FINAL, UH, TALLY OF THE UPDATED SIDE PLAN IS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING IN, UH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL, UM, NINE, NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT. I HAVE A TYPO HERE. IT'S 9 37. IT, UH, ACTUALLY CAME OUT TO 9 38 SPACES THERE, UH, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUATE TO, UH, A THREE POINT, UH, A FOUR POINT, UH, THREE NINE, UH, RATIO. AND THAT IS NOT COUNTING THE, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT PAR, UH, AND CLOSED AREA USED FOR SEASONAL STORAGE AND PRIMARY LANDSCAPING IN, IN, IN THE SPRING. SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS PARTICULAR CAMP. SO, UH, YES, THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE FIVE, UH, 4.39. BUT IN NASHVILLE AT THIS, PROBABLY ABOUT A 4.6 UP TO 4.7 OF, UH, RATIO THERE. UH, THE, UH, THEY NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS, UH, NEW, UH, THIS NEW SITE PLAN, IF WE [00:05:01] CAN, UH, POINT OUT TO, TO THE ACTUAL AREA THAT'S BEING AFFECTED PRIMARILY. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE. THEY ARE NOW PUTTING ALL THE PICK ALL THE, UH, PARKING, ALL THE, UH, PICKUP SPACES AT, UH, YOU INDICATE THAT WHERE THEY'RE PRIMARILY LOCATED RIGHT THERE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. SOME OF THAT ONE ORIGINALLY THERE WERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE, UH, PARKING FIELD. NOW THEY'RE ARE PUTTING IT BACK, BACK IN THAT, UH, TO THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT US, THAT CAUGHT OUR, OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, INTEREST WAS THE FACT THAT YOU SEE THOSE CROSSING, UH, TRACKS THERE. MM-HMM. , UH, LEAD TO BASICALLY WHAT AMOUNT TO ISLANDS. AND WE JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS THAT THAT MEANT THERE. SO WE, UH, BROUGHT IT UP TO THE ATTENTION OF THE ENGINEER. UH, AND UH, THEY SAY THAT THAT IS A STANDARD THAT, UH, THAT WALMART REQUIRES. THAT THOSE, UH, THOSE ARE FOR DELIVERY, UH, DELIVERY CROSSINGS FOR THEIR, FOR THE DELIVERY PEOPLE GOING TO THE PICKUP AREA. IT IS NOT ADA COMPLIANT, THEY'RE NOT FOR AADA A SITUATIONS THERE. AND IT SAYS THEY DON'T EXPECT ANY PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS THERE. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE IT JUST FOR, FOR PROTECTION TO THEIR CART DELIVERS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS THEIR STANDARD. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT ADDITIONAL FIVE, UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ADDITION THERE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE THERE, UH, WITH WHAT YOU SEE THERE. AND, UH, UH, THEY WILL BE COMING LATER ON FOR PERMITTING. BUT, UH, WHERE MOST, WHERE A LOT OF THE INTERIOR MODIFICATION TO OR UPDATE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF IS GONNA HAPPEN. THAT IS NOT PART OF THE SIDE PLAN. THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME OUTSIDE COSMETIC WORK THAT AT LEAST HAS BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME OUTSIDE COSMETIC WORK, I GUESS EITHER PAINTING AND SIGNAGE AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSED INTO. DO WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE ALTERNATE PARKING SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, A SPECIFIC PARKING SPACE COUNT REDUCTION FROM FIVE PER 1000 AS VALIDATED BY PARKING SPACE STUDY AND STORE BUSINESS MODEL. STANDARD FOR PROPOSED STORE-WIDE REMODEL AND CURBSIDE EXPANSION AT 1 21 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32 FILED ON NO. NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. DID YOU WITNESS NEXT [5. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A PROPOSED STOREWIDE REMODEL AND CURBSIDE BUILDING EXPANSION AT 121 W HIGHWAY 332 FILED ON NOVEMBER 7, 2023] ITEM IS FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE SAME PROPERTY AGAIN ON THIS ONE? PRIMARILY BECAUSE, UH, OF OUR, OF OUR REQUIREMENT TO, UH, ANY TIME THAT THERE'S ANY TYPE OF CHANGE OR ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, UH, THAT WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH THAT CHANGE AND, AND IN PARTICULAR LANDSCAPE, WE DON'T WANT TO REALLY HAVE LOOSE ANY MORE, ANY MORE LANDSCAPES, ESPECIALLY WHEN AREAS ARE, ARE ALREADY TAXED WITH, UH, WITH LIMITED, UH, LANDSCAPE AREA. UH, THIS WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY OR THE WAY IT HAS BEEN, IT'S AN ALTERNATE, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE THERE WAS A, A, UH, LIMITED PART, A LIMITED AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE THERE. UH, THEY WERE MAKING IT ON THE TREES WITHOUT ANY QUESTION. UH, UH, THE, THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THE OPEN LANDSCAPE AREAS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT ON THE SHY SIDE. ALSO, THE FACT THAT YOU ALLOWED AS AN ALTERNATE, UH, CONDITION THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, ANY, UH, AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY IT CARRIED THAT DESIGNATION AS A, UH, ALTERNATE PLANT. WELL, IT COMES AGAIN AS SUCH BECAUSE THE, UH, LAND, THE, UH, IRRIGATION HAS NOT CHANGED. IT IS STILL A, UH, UN IRRIGATED, UH, LANDSCAPE AREA, OPEN LANDSCAPE AREA. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPROVEMENT AFTER ALL THIS THING WAS MOVED BACK AND FORTH. THEY'RE COMING UP WITH ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT'S 400 SQUARE FOOT ADDITIONAL FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE [00:10:01] OF OPEN SPACE. UH, ONE, THE ONLY MAJOR ITEM IN THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN IS THAT THEY ARE HAVING TO REMOVE THAT TREE THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT'S XED OUT IN THAT, UH, AREA. MM-HMM. . AND THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH A REPLACEMENT, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT THE, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S A 15 INCH TREE. THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH FIVE THREE INCH OAK IN REPLACEMENT OF THOSE. AND THEY'RE LOCATING THEM AT WHEREVER THEY HAVE A LITTLE CHANCE, WHEREVER THEY HAVE A LITTLE AREA, WHICH YOU SEE THERE. SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THE ISLANDS THAT ARE BEING, THAT CREATED THAT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A ASPHALT AREA. THERE WAS ASPHALT SERVICES AT THOSE AREAS WHERE THE TREES ARE. AND THEY ARE NOW OPEN THAT UP AND CREATING A, AN OPEN AREA. OKAY. DID YOU SAY FIVE THREE INCH? FIVE THREE INCH TREES? THAT IS WHAT THE, UH, ORDINANCE DEFINES AS A MINIMUM FOR A TREE. OKAY. DEFINITION. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. JEFF? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. NO. MATT? NO SIR. ANYTHING ELSE, MALLORY? NO, I THINK THAT COVERED IT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION. ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, AMENDMENT FOR A PROPOSED STOREWIDE REMODEL AND CURBSIDE BUILDING EXPANSION ON 1 21 WEST HIGHWAY AT 3 32, FILED ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023. AND THE ALTERNATE IS NOT HAVING IRRIGATION. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. MAD. THANK YOU. ON THE SIDEBAR RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING TIMES ARE CHANGING. I'M PARKING. UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE DROPPED ALL THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. I READ ABOUT THAT. WELL, WE'RE LIKE JACKSON . WELL, I REALIZE THAT, BUT THOSE, THAT SEEMS TO BE NOW THE, UH, THE, THE THE GOING, UH, YOU KNOW, MODE OF OKLAHOMA DID THE SAME THING NOW AUSTIN, AND I'M SURE IT'S GONNA KEEP ON GOING. QUESTION PLAN. MY CONCERN ALWAYS IS BEING THAT THE PARKING DOESN'T IMPACT THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO IMPACTS THE, UH, THE BUSINESS. THAT'S THE REASON WHY. SO, UH, WHY ARE WE STICKING OUR NOSE IN IT? AUSTIN ALSO DIDN'T PASS THEIR BONDS FOR TRANSIT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE REASON. IT'S THE BUSINESS THAT HAS TO DICTATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED PARKING OR NOT TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL WORK. THAT'S, I GUESS, THE PHILOSOPHY THERE. THEY'RE USING ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. YOU'RE HAVING THESE, UH, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE THAT AND THEY'VE DONE THE BUSINESSES ADDED OUT IN THE PERIMETER. MM-HMM. . AND THE FACT THAT MINE HAS BECOMING VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. SO THEREFORE THAT'S ANOTHER MAIN REASON. BASICALLY. IT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN REASON. YEAH. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM. DISCUSS [6. DISCUSS AND RECOMMEND LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT CHANGES TO ORDINANCE BY CITY ATTORNEY] AND RECOMMEND LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT CHANGES TO ORDINANCE BY CITY ATTORNEY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHY I'M HERE OR WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO. , I I DIDN'T SEE THIS IN THE MINUTES AND I DIDN'T DO ANY DEEP RESEARCH AFTER LOOKING AT THE MINUTES. SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT BROUGHT THIS UP? THE THIS COM COMPLIANCE ISSUE WITH LANDSCAPING. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING. EDDIE, YOU . OH, IT WASN'T LAST MEETING. I LOOKED AT LAST MEETINGS MINUTES. IT WAS THE LOWEST TREE . IT'S, IT'S TO UNDER IT'S UNDERSTANDING IT'S COMMENT. IT'S THE UNDERSTANDINGS. RIGHT. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HOLD ANYBODY RESPONSIBLE UNTIL THEY ASK FOR A PERMIT OR OF SOME SORT. CORRECT. FOR THE, LIKE THE, THE LEANING TREE OR HONDA LAKE JACKSON CUTTING DOWN 12 TREES. I CUT DOWN 12 TREES. YES. IS THAT, DOES THAT VIOLATE THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN? YES. I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT THAT HAD HAPPENED. IT HAD, UH, OLIVE GARDEN, BUT WE KNEW ABOUT THAT. YES. UM, OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED AT THE OLIVE GARDEN? THEY DEMANDED CUTTING ALL THE TREES DOWN BEFORE THEY STARTED. OH YEAH. THEY WERE GRANTED PERMISSION TO DO THAT. THAT'S, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE EXCEPTION. YEAH. THAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT, UM, 12 TREES AT HONDA. AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS [00:15:01] LEANING TREE? WHAT IS, THERE'S A TREE LEANING ON LOWE'S. THE TREE WAS LEANING AND LOWE'S IS GONE. IT'S NOT, IT'S GONE. IT IS GONE. OKAY. FROM, FROM AT ONE POINT IN TIME, OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THERE WAS NO ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT THAT WE COULD GIVE TO A COMPANY UNTIL THEY CAME TO US ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF PERMIT FOR WORK OR REMODELING OR NO CITATIONS CAN BE WRITTEN AND WE COULD RIDE IT PER TREE, I GUESS. I'M NOT SURE. I MEAN, THE CITATION WOULD BE VIOLATION OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN OR VIOLATION OF THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. UM, AND YEAH, I, I LOOKED IN HERE AND, UM, IT SAYS THAT THE BUILDING OF OFFICIAL IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE NOTICE AND GIVE 30 DAYS FOR COMPLIANCE, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT TO DO AFTER THAT. AND, BUT YEAH. NO, THAT'S WHEN YOU DO THAT, IT'S, IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. IT'S A VIOLATION OF A CITY ORDINANCE SO THAT, THAT, UM, YOU, YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND WRITE, WRITE CITATIONS, NOT Y'ALL, BUT DAVID AND UM RIGHT. AND THE, AND IF THEY, IF THEY WANT SOMETHING FROM US, THEN WE'VE GOT SOME LEVERAGE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, NO, YOU JUST CUT DOWN THOSE 12 TREES AND YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BEFORE WE GIVE YOU ANYTHING ELSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF HONDA WANTS ANYTHING FROM US EXCEPT TO BUY CARS. SO WHEN THEY WENT THERE REBUILDING THREE YEARS, THEY'RE GONNA WANT A LOT FROM YOU GUYS. MM. ARE ARE THEY GONNA REDO? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING? ARE THEY GONNA REDO THE WHOLE PLACE OR TOTAL TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD. THAT'S WHAT HONDA REQUIRES EVERY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS. MM-HMM. . WOW. THAT'S A WASTE. ALRIGHT, SO EXCELLENT USE OF YOUR MONEY ANYWAY. YES. UM, CITATIONS CAN BE ISSUED, I GUESS TO MR. HALL BECAUSE I THEY'RE THEY'RE VIOLATING, UM, THE CITY ORDINANCE. YEAH. THE, UNFORTUNATELY I WORK FOR THE GUY. UM, DO YOU STILL WANT TO WORK THERE ? SO YOU ACTUALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND BEING THE STOOL PIGEON. . YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE JUST TALKING GENERICALLY THOUGH. YES. UM, RIGHT. YES. THE, THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE CITATIONS AND WE HAVE, UM, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH YOU UNTIL YOU COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. THEY, WHERE WERE THESE TREES THAT THEY CUT DOWN? THEY, THEY ONLY HAVE FIVE PALM TREES LEFT ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. PALM TREES. YEAH. THEY TOOK 'EM ALL OUT. HOW MANY OF THEM WERE LIVING? ALL OF 'EM? THEY JUST WEREN'T TAKEN CARE OF CORRECTLY. THOSE AREN'T ON THE TREE LIST, ARE THEY? IT DIDN'T WE REMOVE THOSE? I THOUGHT PALM TREES WERE PALM. YEAH. YEAH. MEXICAN, MEXICAN, MEXICAN PALM. AND THEY WERE BUCKY'S. I REMEMBER SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY. BUCKY'S HAD 'EM, UH, BEAVER, THEY'RE UGLY IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF 'EM ON 3 32. THAT'S A LOT OF THEM. THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. 29. YEAH. A LOT MORE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. WELL, BABIES NEED NEW SHOES. . SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE OF HONDA, UH, UNLESS WE, UNLESS SOMEBODY LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, TELLS US THAT THEY HAVE DONE THIS THING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN WHATSOEVER AND OUR PEOPLE WOULDN'T GO BACK OVER THERE. OUR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO OUT THERE AND REVISIT EVERY SITE PLAN. NO, OF COURSE NOT. BUT I, I REMEMBER IN THE MEETING THE CONCERN WAS LOWE'S BROUGHT THE CONCERN UP THAT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, YES, WE COULD GIVE THEM A SITE, BUT WOULD IT MEAN JACK DIDDLEY SQUAT UNTIL THEY CAME TO US WANTING SOMETHING? IT'LL IT COULD MEAN JACK DIDLEY BUT NOT SQUAT. NO, IT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR. NO, IT DOESN'T. SO, UM, YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK, UM, WHAT WAS IT, FIREHOUSE SUBS WENT AND CUT DOWN ALL THOSE TREES AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN THEIR TREES. YEAH. THAT WAS A DEVELOPER WHEN HE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY. AND IT WASN'T A FIRE. I MEAN, IT WASN'T THE, IT'S NOT HIS, HIS HE'S A TENANT. MM-HMM. . BUT IT WAS BLOCKING HIS VIEW AND HE CUT DOWN. ANYWAY, WE REMEMBER THAT. I STILL DON'T. YES. UH HUH I'VE NEVER GONE INSIDE THAT STORE. ANYONE WHO CAUSES ME EXTRA WORK, I STOP GIVE GOING TO BUSINESS. HOW CAN THEY STILL BE OPEN IF YOU DON'T GO THERE ? I KNOW, I KNOW. THEY FEEL MY, THEY FEEL MY ABSENCE. RIGHT. I'VE NEVER BEEN. WELL, IT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THE WAY SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS OF A VIOLATION OF A CITY ORDINANCE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT USUALLY GOES BY, I SEE THEM IN OUR NEIGHBOR CITY AS THE JUDGE WHEN THEY COME IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION. MM-HMM. . AND IT'S INTERESTING NOW THAT I THINK OUT OF 12 YEARS OF DOING IT, I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE, I'VE ONE AGAINST A COMMERCIAL [00:20:01] BUSINESS DONE BY, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE COMPLAINS. IT'S ALWAYS YOUR NEIGHBOR'S. YES. SO IT'S YES. PEOPLE DRIVING BY SEEING SOMETHING IN A HOME RATHER THAN ON A BUSINESS, WHICH THEY HARDLY NOTICE UNLESS THEY'RE GOING THERE. YEAH. SO, SO THE POSSIBILITY IS, AND I'LL GET WITH MR. WALTON, IT'S TO RIGHT THE, THEM A CITATION AND GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE OR WRITE THEM ANOTHER CITATION. BUT WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO CITY MANAGER AND MR. WALTON AND GET A GOOD PLAN TOGETHER ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. UM, SO IF THEY GOTTA BUILD A NEW BUILDING, THEY MIGHT BUILD IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. , IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE DEALERSHIPS DON'T REALLY CONTRIBUTE. I MEAN WE, THERE'S NO SALES TAX AND WE DON'T GET, UM, NEVERMIND. LET'S JUST, HEY, HEY. MY PART, MY PART OF THE DEALERSHIP CONTRIBUTES A LOT OF SALES TAX BECAUSE I RUN THE POWER EQUIPMENT SHOP. YES. I DON'T SELL CARS. YES. THE POWER EQUIP. I'M THE KID POWERMENT SIDE. YES. I'M THE COOL KID ON THE CAMPUS. YES. I, I CONTRIBUTE A LOT. I SEE THAT NUMBER EVERY MONTH. YES. THE CAR GUYS, I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT. NO, THE CAR GUYS KNOW. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT POWER EQUIPMENT, WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND I HOPE YOU STAY, I DO MY BEST TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I SAVE THE SERVICE CENTER A LOT OF MONEY. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ENGLETON TO SPEND THEIR MONEY EITHER. SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS. THEY, YOU GIVE 'EM A CITATION, YOU GIVE THEM TIME TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, YOU GIVE 'EM ANOTHER CITATION AND, UH, AND HOPE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WORKS. AND IF NOT, EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING FROM YOU, YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. I MEAN, HONESTLY, I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES IS, IT'S SO FAR FEW BETWEEN THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I MEAN, I I I'VE BROUGHT, I BROUGHT IT UP WITH ROD. HE BOUGHT THE PLACE. HE HAD NO, HE HAD NO CLUE ABOUT IT. YES. AND I'M LIKE, HEY MAN, YOU JUST DROPPED EIGHT TREES. YEAH. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO WALK INTO WHEN YOU GO FOR THIS REBUILD PERMIT AND EVERYTHING IN A COUPLE YEARS. HE'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AND I WAS LIKE, HEY MAN, THE CITY OF TREES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TREES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOLIAGE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE VEGETATION. AND HE IS LIKE, WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I'M LIKE, MAN, I KNOW YOU BOUGHT THE PLACE, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THE PLACE. BUT GO BACK AND ASK BOBBY FORD WHAT HE HAD TO GO THROUGH WHEN GET APPROVAL TO BUILD THE PLACE. AND HE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH LEAPS AND BOUNDS. THAT'S WHY HE PLANTED ALL THIS STUFF. IT WASN'T JUST FOR SHOW. RIGHT. TRUST ME, HE DIDN'T WANT THE OVERHEAD OF PUTTING ALL THESE TREES. HE DIDN'T WANT THE OVERHEAD OF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, BUT HE HAD TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND THAT WAS A FUN CONVERSATION. YEAH. SO, UM, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THOSE FOAM TREES WERE THERE BECAUSE YEAH. OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS. YEAH. OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NO, I, I KNOW HE, HE, AS HE WAS CUTTING THEM DOWN, I'M STANDING THERE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT AND HE'S KIND OF LIKE, WHOA, WHAT AM I GONNA HAVE TO DO? I'M LIKE, PLANT . WE HAVE A CHART ACTUALLY TO SHOW YOU WHAT YOU NOW NEED TO PLANT TO REPLACE THEM. AND UM, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF TREES THAT DO VERY WELL IN THIS AREA. SO. YEAH. AND I GUESS THE FIRST THING ACTUALLY IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND SEE HOW WILLING THEY ARE TO FIX THE PROBLEM. YEAH. WHICH REMINDS ME, EDDIE, DID UH, THOSE TREES, UH, AT THE, UH, AT THE LOWE'S PROPERTY GOT PUT UP? I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVEN'T CHECKED ON IT LATELY. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. UH, UP UNTIL, UH, THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN EDDIE WAS TALKING TO THE PEOPLE, THEY WERE ON, ON THE VERGE OF 'EM GOING OUT THERE AND PUTTING THOSE TREES UP THAT THEY NEVER DID PUT UP LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE. AND UH, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS A DUMB THING, SO WE DIDN'T REALLY KEEP ON PESTERING THEM, BUT NOW I GUESS WE HAVE TO MM. YEAH. GO BACK OUT THERE. MAYBE THEY THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING TO FOLLOW UP. MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND I DIDN'T REMEMBER TO BRING THIS QUESTION UP FOR EDDIE. EDDIE, SHERRY, WOULD YOU MIND COMING BACK NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER AFTER YOU'VE TALKED TO HONDA AND WHATEVER MIGHT'VE HAPPENED THROUGH ALL THAT AND JUST LET US KNOW WHAT THAT TURNED OUT. UM, SOMEONE CAN, I MEAN, IF I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT IF, IF DAVID JUST GOES OUT THERE AND THEY PLANT TREES, YEAH. SOMEONE WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE WILL GIVE YOU THE HONDA OF LAKE JACKSON UPDATE. CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MANAGER'S MEETING. . ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU SHERRY. WE'RE VERY NICE PEOPLE. I'LL SAY THANK YOU MA'AM. IS THE CITY GONNA REPLACE ALL THE, UH, TREES THAT WE'VE LOST? ALONG 3 32, ALL THE MAGNOLIAS. OKAY. STATE RIGHT AWAY. WE'RE STILL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UH, WHAT THE DEAL WAS WITH THE, UH, GREEN RIBBON, UH, CONTRACTOR BECAUSE [00:25:01] THAT CAME OFF OF THE, THE T STOCK GREEN RIBBON PROJECT OR THE AWARD THEY GAVE THE CITY AND THEY DO HAVE A CONTRACT AND THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME, SOME INSUR, NOT INSURANCE, BUT, UH, WARRANTY PERIOD. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THOSE FALL UNDER THE WARRANTY. UH, IS THAT ON 2004 ALSO? YEAH. YEAH. WE LOST A BUNCH OF TREES. OH YES. I MEAN IT'S ALL, YEAH. EVERY DAY THAT I GO THROUGH THERE AND I SEE THOSE THINGS IN THE, I GUESS WE HAD AN ALTERNATE PLAN. 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE WATERING . NO, NO. THERE'S WATER. WATER THING. I THOUGHT THEY BROUGHT TRUCKS ALONG. JUST I'VE SEEN. NO, THERE'S WATER ALONG 2004. THEY, THEY SPENT SOME SERIOUS MONEY ON THAT. WELL, IT DIDN'T WORK OBVIOUSLY THAT, BUT THEN IT DIDN'T WORK IN A LOT OF YARDS EITHER. AND THEY LOST LOT TREES TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, I DID PRETTY GOOD BY WATERING OUTTA THE CREEK, SO. OH, SO YOU'RE THE ONE, I'M THE ONE. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT. YOU HAVE A QUOTA ON THAT. COOL. , YOU'RE INCRIMINATING YOURSELF. YOU MAY WANNA START PLEADING THE FIFTH. ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS. LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS TO SIGN. WALMART SITE PLAN. LANDSCAPE PLAN. ALRIGHT. ITEMS [8. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. OKAY. UM, I WILL ONCE AGAIN ASK HOW THE HILTON HOME TWO SUITES IS GOING. OH, THE HOME TWO SUITES. YES, BETTY. OH, THERE HE IS. THERE HE IS. HI. HI. SO CONSTRUCTION'S COMING ALONG ON THAT. UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE WORKING ON PUNCHING AZEALIA THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND THAT, UH, UH, WE'LL OPEN UP SOME ADDITIONAL ACCESS FOR LARGER EQUIPMENT. BUT WE'RE DOING INSPECTIONS. THEY'RE STILL WORKING. PERFECT. IF YOU WANT A HOTEL THERE, THAT, THAT'S PERFECT. I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT A HOTEL THERE, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE COME AND SPOKE WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. YEP. WELL, IT'S ALWAYS AN OPEN FOR ON AND MAYBE WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PUNCH THROUGH. UH, YES SIR. UH, AZALEA STREET, AZALEA STREET'S GOING REALLY WELL. UH, THEY GOT THEIR SECOND POUR IN, THEY BROKE IT INTO THREE POURS BECAUSE OF THE HOTEL. THEY NEED ACCESS. SO THERE'S A SMALL 30 FOOT SECTION OF STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE POURED IN. THEY HAVE CURVED TO BE INSTALLED. UH, THE WATER LINES IN, THERE WAS NO SEWER LINE WORK ON THAT PORTION OF THE STREET. ALL THE STORM SEWERS IN. SO IT, THEY'VE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE TIME THAT IT WOULD BE THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING THAT THEY WOULD COMPLETE IT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE RIGHT ON TARGET. DOWNTOWN IS A DIFFERENT MATTER. UH, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL MOVING, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING TO THE FINISH LINE. WE DID A FINAL WALKTHROUGH. THEY'VE GOT A PUNCH LIST NOW THEY HAVE TO GET IN ALL THE GRASS LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION AND THEN FINISH UP THIS LITTLE, THIS AND THAT ITEMS THAT WE PULLED UP ON THE PUNCH LIST AND THEN THEY SHOULD BE OUT OF THERE. THE PROBLEM IS THE LANDSCAPE IS NOT MOVING AS FAST AS WE WOULD LIKE. MM-HMM. . AND THOSE ARE THE TWO CITY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE JEFF? NO, JUST WONDERING. I SEE MORE AND MORE LOCAL BUSINESSES CLOSING DOWN. I SAW WITH TABLE 24 GONE, I MEAN IN MY, I HAVE AN OPINION WHY IT'S NO LONGER VIABLE BUSINESS, BUT IT'S A SHAME TO SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE IT GO BACKYARD, NOT SUCCEED. MODI'S OPENING BACK UP UNDER SAME OWNERSHIP, NO NEW OWNERSHIP. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH. WELL, NEW OWNERSHIP BUT NOT NEW OWNERSHIP. OKAY. DIFFERENT TABC. GOTCHA. ALRIGHT. THAT'S, IT'S JUST A CONCERN TO SAY BECAUSE IS CONCERNED WE HAVE A NICE DOWNTOWN WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND I WANT EVERYBODY THAT CAN SUCCEED TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED. THEY WINERY REVIEW SHUT DOWN AT THE END OF THE END OF THE YEAR TOO. YES. YEAH. WHEN I SAW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THESE WINE AND FOOD THINGS, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO REGULATION WISE AND THE REPORTING TO SUCCEED, THEY'RE SPENDING ALL THEIR TIME ON LAWYERS AND OH YEAH. OVERSATURATION OF DOWNTOWN TOO. SO YEAH. TURN TO A PUB CRAWL. THERE'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL SOME OF 'EM GOT WEEDED OUT. YEP. YEP. AND YOU CAN'T SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE AN OUTDOOR PLACE THROUGH THE LAST SUMMERS WE'VE HAD HERE. NO. MAIN. VERY TRUE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD JUST CONCERN, HARRY. ON, UH, Y POND, SOUTH OF OYSTER CREEK, THERE'S A LIGHT THAT STILL SAYS ENTERING A TI UH, SCHOOL ZONE FLASHING. [00:30:01] THERE'S A STATIC SIGN. IT ALSO SAYS SCHOOL ZONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL DOWN THERE. AND THEY BAGGED ALL THE OTHER LIGHTS. AND THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS HAVE A FLASHING LIGHT ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE, UH, PARALLEL TO LIKE CIRCLE WAY OR SUCH. AND THERE IS A, A, A TREE, EXCUSE ME, THERE IS A, A, UH, LIGHT AT THE CORNER ACROSS FROM THE BAPTIST CHURCH THAT'S A LITTLE FAR FROM OYSTER CREEK, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT KNOW ON THE LEFT SIDE. MR. SERGEANT LEFT SIDE IS NORTHBOUND. MR. SERGEANT, CAN YOU INDICATE WHICH SIGNS FLASHING? BECAUSE A PREPPER FOUNDATION PREPARATORY DOES OPERATE OUT OF ONE OF THE CHURCHES DOWN IN THAT AREA. AND THAT IS AK THROUGH, UM, UPPER HIGHER EDUCATION SCHOOL. THEY DO OPERATE OUT OF THAT. UH, I THINK IT'S COVENANT CHRISTIAN K2 FIVE? NO, IT IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING KNOW WHICH ONE HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I, I MEANT TO ASK PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT IT BECAUSE ALL THE OTHERS ARE BAGGED IN THAT AREA THAT YEAH. THE ONES THAT BAGGED WEREN'T WORKING ANYWAY. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S NOT BAG THAT YOU COULD USE ON NORTHBOUND AND THAT SAYS YOU'RE ENTERING A TIME ZONE. A TIME ZONE, EXCUSE ME, A SCHOOL ZONE. SCHOOL ZONE. IT'S THE, THE, THE EXITING SCHOOL ZONE. BUT IT'S THE ONE THAT'S TWO BLOCKS OFF, UH, TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF OYSTER CREEK. THERE YOU GO. THIS ONE. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTH. LET ME GET MY DIRECTION GOING. YEAH. SO THAT ONE IS BLINKING ALL BY ITSELF. I STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT. IS THAT SOUTHBOUND YOU'RE LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH? CORRECT. OKAY, THEN THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S BLINKING. CORRECT. AND IT SAYS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO 20 MILES PER HOUR AND THEY NEVER TELL YOU WHEN YOU CAN STOP TO GOING 20 MILES PER HOUR. WAS THIS AROUND MAY? IT'S TO 4 35 IN THE AFTERNOON. THEY MUST, THEY JUST MUST HAVE MISSED IT. I ONLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE STILL DO HAVE A SCHOOL DOWN THERE OPERATING OUT OF COVENANT CHRISTIAN. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE FLASHING SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS. I THINK THAT MAINLY IS A DROP OFF AND PICK UP SCHOOL WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE WALKERS. BUT THAT'D BE SOMETHING TO TALK TO, BRINGING THAT SUBJECT UP TO. AND SOME OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ZONE COMING FROM LJ I MM-HMM. DOWN TO THAT INTERSECTION CROSSING GUARDS, MAN. THE, UM, OCD ONE. THIS CAME UP AT TRACTOR COMMISSION ALSO. UM, BUT WE CAN MAKE A NOTE FOR YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT IT. WE'LL LOOK AT, OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL THAT'S IT SAID A FRIEND. POINT OUT THAT WILLOW DRIVE IS REALLY BAD SHAPE THOUGH. WE ALL KNOW THAT . I FIGURED. YEAH. I MEAN WE ARE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. WE ALREADY, UH, THINK WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADVERTISING FOR A NEW PROJECT ISSUE FOR, UH, PANEL REPAIRS ON LOT OF STREETS. WE COULDN'T EVEN TOUCH THAT ONE BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY OTHER ONES. AND THERE'S STILL SO MANY LEFT IN THAT PART OF THE BOND ISSUE WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A THIRD, A THIRD PROJECT. WE ALREADY HAD ONE. THIS IS THE SECOND ONE. SO WE MAY BE ABLE, AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHICH PROJECTS ARE IN THERE. THEY, UH, THEY HAD ALREADY MADE A LIST OF WHAT OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE GONNA BE INVOLVED. BUT WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT, I MEAN, THAT IS AN DIRE STATEMENT. HAVE WE LEARNED WHAT TO DO TO PREVENT THIS WITH THE TREES PARKED IN, UH, GROWING IN THE MEDIAN? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ADVOCATING IS IN NO TREES IN THE MEDIAN, BUT I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DRAGGED TO THE, BECAUSE THIS IS TREE CITY. I THINK RALPH HENDRICK TALKED ABOUT BULKHEADING, WHICH SOUNDS RIDICULOUS, BUT NO, I MEAN, UH, HAS IT'D BE VERY EXPENSIVE. YEAH. IT IS EXPENSIVE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO ROOT BARRIERS TO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST DONE SOME OF THAT, UH, DOWNTOWN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING IN SOME ROOT BARRIERS WHERE THE, UH, THERE'S SIX ON NORTH PARKING PLACE WHERE THERE ARE SIX NEW OAK, UH, OAK TREES. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN ROOT BARRIERS THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM COME BACK. UH, IT'S TREES ARE NOT FRIENDLY TO THINGS . THEY'RE NOT IN LAKE JACKSON. YES. [00:35:01] IN PLEASURE, CLAY. YES. WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WERE COSTING US TO HAVE THE AESTHETIC EFFECT. YES, THAT IS TRUE. BUT THEY WERE GONNA RUN ME OUT OF, OUT OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I MADE THAT STATEMENT BACK MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. BUT THEY STILL WANTED THOSE AND THEY KEPT ON PUTTING THOSE UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALRIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION IS, SOMEBODY POINTED OUT THAT COMMERCIAL CAN HAVE TWO WATER METERS, ONE FOR PUBLIC USE AND ONE FOR THEIR, UH, IRRIGATION. BUT RESIDENTIAL CAN'T. IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. THEY CAN'T, UH, THAT WAS JUST THE REGULATIONS THEY PASSED A LONG TIME AGO AND NOBODY'S BROUGHT IT BACK UP. WE JUST DON'T, WE DON'T, I THINK THE DROP KIND OF MADE THAT A ISSUE TO SOME PEOPLE. YEAH. BUT IT'S AN ISSUE OF CITY REVENUE ON, ON WATER AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR FACILITIES GOING. RIGHT. IF YOU START. AND ALSO I THINK SECTOR SERVICE RELATED IS FINE FOR THAT. YES. WE WERE. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DOUBLE EDGED SWORDS. YES. WE KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HIT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE TAXPAYER ANYWAY IF WE DO THAT ANYWAY. SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. THAT'S ALL WE GOT. COTTON. YES. AND KIND OF WEIRD THAT WE WERE TALKING PARKING. I HAD SPENT MOST OF THE SUMMER NOW THE FALL AT THE LAKE JACKSON BALL FIELDS. AND I THINK THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND NOT THE CITY. THE ONES EVER RASCO COST FROM RASCO. YEAH. THOSE RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE THERE'S FOR THAT TO BE, AND IF IT'S BISD, I'M PROBABLY JUST SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING, BUT IT IS, WHAT I LOOK AT IS A LARGE CITY PARK WITH THREE PARKING SPOTS, ONE DISABLED PARKING AND TWO CONCESSION STAND RESERVED SITES OVER, AROUND BACK WHERE THE LITTLE GREEN BUILDING IS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE THAT YOU JUST, YEAH. THERE USED TO BE A CHAIN UP ACROSS THAT DRIVE AND PEOPLE KEPT TAKING IT DOWN AND PARENTS STARTED PARKING THERE. WELL NOW THERE'S A SIGN UP THAT SAYS COACHES AND UMPIRE PARKING ONLY . SO BASICALLY THERE'S A DOZEN PARKING SPOTS FOR A CITY PARK AND ALL 12 OF THEM ARE RESERVED. AND IF YOU TALK TO LITTLE LEAGUE, THEY SAY, WELL, PARKING IS THE REC CENTER AND THE SCHOOL. AND YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, IT'S TH ABOUT 300 YARDS OF WALKING TO GO FROM THE REC CENTER TO THE BALL FIELD ABOUT 500 YARDS TO WALK FROM THE SCHOOL TO THE BALL FIELDS. AND IF YOU'RE TALKING TO FOR GRANDS LIKE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, WHO IS DISABLED, THE NEAREST DISABLED SPOTS ARE ALL THE WAY AGAINST THE DOORS AT THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS NOW MAKES IT A 600 PLUS YARD WALK OR ALL THE WAY AT THE GLASS DOORS TO THE REC CENTER, WHICH MAKES THAT A 400 YARD PLUS WALK FOR OUR HANDICAPPED GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO GO SEE THEIR LITTLE KIDS PLAY BALL. AND THE MORE THAT I SIT THERE AND WATCH THESE GAMES AND SEE ALL THESE HANDICAPPED PEOPLE WALKING AROUND AND JUST VIRTUALLY ONE HANDICAP SPOT AND THEN PLUS NO REGULAR PARKING WHATSOEVER. IT JUST KIND MAKES ME SCRATCH MY HEAD WHEN WE WORKED SO HARD ON PARKING FOR BUSINESSES AND WE JUST DID IT AGAIN HERE TONIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE A CITY PARK THAT HAS VIRTUALLY NO PARKING. I THINK THAT'S THE BIS PROGRAM. AND I, I'M, I'M SURE YOU'RE RIGHT. I LOOKED ON RIGID AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S IT'S JUST ONE BIG GIANT SQUARE. BUT I LOOK OVER AT THE GIRLS FIELDS AND THE GIRLS FIELDS GOT PARKING FOR DAYS AND DAYS AND DAYS. IT STAYS FIELDS. YEAH. BUT THAT'S CITY PROPERTY'S CITY PROPERTY AND, AND THAT MAY BE WHAT IT IS. AND SO I'M JUST S JUST STANDING HERE RATTLING. WELL, COTTON, I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER APPROACHED A PARKS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT [00:40:01] NO, THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SAID ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT IT. I THINK I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, I MEAN IT'S PROPER THAT YOU MAKE, YOU BRING OUT THESE POINTS BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE HANDICAPS SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ONE. AND YES, IT IS CITY, NOT CITY PROPERTY. IT IS SCHOOL PROPERTY. AND THEY, AND THERE'S SOME TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT ON THAT ONE. AND AT ONE TIME THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING PUTTING PARKING RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR PARKING IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT SCHOOL PARK. IT'S STILL A, THAT'S STILL A, A PRETTY GOOD HIKE, BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY GOOD. YEAH. BUT IT, IT, IT DOES MAKE IT BETTER. YEAH. AND THE ONLY OTHER REMAINING AREA IS, UH, AND THAT'S GETTING OFF INTO SOCCER FIELDS. SOCCER FIELDS, YEAH. BUT IF YOU ADD SOCCER FIELDS INTO THAT, THERE'S ZERO PARKING FOR THEM PEOPLE. UNLESS YOU NOW ARE ON THE BACK OF THE HOSPITAL, THOSE PARKING USING THEIRS, THOSE PARKING SPOTS ALONG. THAT'S IT. YEAH. ALONG THE, ALONG THAT EDGE THERE OR THE HOSPITAL CANDLE LANE. CANDLE LANE WE PUT IN THERE AT THEIR REQUEST FOR, FOR SOME PARKING TO BE PUT IN THERE. IT'S NOT EVEN THAT OFFICIAL PARKING THAT WAS, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING, WHEN I WAS ON TRAFFIC THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING, WHEN I WAS ON TRAFFIC AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW BISD WASN'T WILLING TO PAVE ANYTHING AT ALL ON THAT POSITION. THEY WERE CON SAYING THAT THEY, WE WERE FORTUNATE THEY ALLOWED US TO PUT STUFF THERE. YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAS ALL DURING THE WHOLE SCHOOL REBUILDS AND THEY WERE WANTING OUR INPUT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, AND THEY BROUGHT THAT UP. IT WAS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE IN A WAY. IT'S INTERESTING. THEY MOVED THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS OFF OF THE, UH, INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL LAND AND PUT IT ON ANOTHER B-I-A-S-D-I GUESS OVER HERE. RASCO. SO MATTHEW, UM, BESIDES THE WONDERFUL APARTMENTS BEHIND THE BUCKYS AND QUALITY CONTROL ON THE NEW PARK OVER THERE OFF OF, WHAT IS THAT GARLAND? THE, THE BUCCANEER LOOKING BOAT OVER THERE. OH, YEAH. YEAH. WHO, WHO DOES OUR QUALITY CONTROL POST-CONSTRUCTION. WHO DOES THE PUNCH LIST ON THAT? BECAUSE THAT IS YET AGAIN, THE SECOND NEWEST OR THE NEWEST PARK. AND THERE ARE MORE ISSUES ON THAT PARK THAT MY DAUGHTER FOUND IN A MATTER OF FIVE MINUTES OF IT AND BOLTS NOT BEING TIGHTENED DOWN BY ANY STANDARD AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. AND YOU KNOW, ABOUT A HUNDRED POUNDS OF CONSTRUCTION WASTE THAT I PICKED UP AND THREW IN THE TRASH CAN. NOW I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, WAS THAT PARK READY FOR YEAH. YOU KNOW, PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. YEAH. IT WASN'T BLOCKED OFF. WASN'T TAPED OFF OR NOTHING. NOW I KNOW THAT THE, UM, PARKS DIRECTOR, UH, DID ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES, UH, WITH THE PARK OVER THERE, THE TIMBER CREEK ONE IN TIMBER CREEK, YEAH. AND THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FINISHED WITH THEIR WORK. NOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS BLOCKED OFF OR WHATNOT. SO LET ME FIND OUT MATT FROM, UM, FROM ROBIN AS FAR AS WHO'S, WHO'S DOING, YOU KNOW, THEIR FINAL PUNCH LIST INSPECTION ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. NO. YEAH, I KNEW IT WASN'T. I WASN'T, I KNEW IT WASN'T YOU. I JUST, THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN THAT ARE ALREADY ON IT, IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE PLAYED ON WITH NO BLOCKAGE, NO SIGNAGE WHATSOEVER. AND THE UNGODLY AMOUNT OF DANGEROUS CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL THAT WAS JUST DIRT IT OVER AND GRASPED OVER IT WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING AND WORRISOME FOR HER JOB. AND YOU, AND YOU SAID THIS IS THE ONE ON GARLAND? YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. SO DO YOU, DO YOU TAKE YOUR KID TO ALL THE NEW ONES? ACTUALLY, YEAH, I DO. WHY NOT? MY, YOU KNOW, $300,000 PLAYGROUND NEEDS TO BE PLAYED ON. ANYTHING ELSE, MATT? NOPE. RENEE? NO. NOTHING FROM THE COUNCIL. GILBERT, SHERRY, ANYTHING ELSE? NO. MALLORY, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROCEEDINGS? UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT Y'ALL ALSO INVOLVED IN MAKING YOUR CITY OF BENEFITS. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE TOO. DAVID, ANYTHING ELSE? I WAS HOPING IF I HID BEHIND THE PODIUM YOU WOULDN'T SEEN ME . EDDIE, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. NICOLE, WHAT YOU GOT? NOTHING. GOOD JOB DRIVING. SAL. ANNA. [9. SET NEXT MEETING DATE] WHEN'S OUR NEXT ONE ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER THE FIFTH. I MIGHT CHECK THE CALENDAR. SEE WHO CAN, CAN OR CAN'T [00:45:01] MAKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THE AGENDAS ARE STARTING TO GET VERY SCARCITY. AGENDA ITEMS ARE STARTING TO GET VERY SCARCE, SO WHO KNOWS? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT HITS ME IN THE FACE. OH, LOT COMBINATION FOR, FOR ? WELL, THAT IS NO, THAT IS NO, THAT IS A NOT A PLANNING COMMISSIONER. YEAH, THAT'S UNDER, UNDER TWO . OH, THE REPLANT. THE REPLANT. THEY COULD BE. IT COULD BE. SORRY. USED WASHINGTON STATE TERMS. IT IS A PLAN. AMENDMENT TO FACING, BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. , EVERYBODY OKAY FOR THE FIFTH? MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT ITEMS TO SIGN. MEETINGS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.