Dec 18, 2023 City Council

MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE, UH, STOCKING VOTING LAST WEEK, AND YOU PICKED THE RIGHT PERSON.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY VISITOR.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE THAT, UH, UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND THIS IS WHERE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO DECLARE? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

ITEM ONE IS APPROVED MINUTES.

DECEMBER 4TH, 2023.

ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES FROM, UH, CHARTER REVIEW, COMMISSION AND TRAFFIC COMMISSION.

ITEM THREE IS APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A 2023 JOHN DEERE, UH, 50 75 E CAB UTILITY TRACTOR THROUGH, UH, BUYBOARD CONTRACT NUMBER 7 0 6 23.

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AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO, NOT EXCEEDING $56,638 AS BUDGETED.

THAT'S A GOOD PRICE, I WILL TELL YOU.

I CAN'T BUY ONE FOR THAT PRICE.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, UH, IF THERE'S ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE OR A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SETH.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HANYA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 2 8 0 PROHIBITING PARKING ON DAHLIA STREET, OAK DRIVE SOUTH AND COTTON DRIVE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[1. Discuss and consider the first reading of Ordinance No. 2280 prohibiting parking on Dahlia Street, Oak Drive South, and Cotton Drive. – Sherri Russell ]

CHERRY'S GOT YOUR NAME INSIDE.

SO I COMBINED OUR NO PARKING ORDINANCES.

THE DAHLIA STREET IS ONLY DURING SCHOOL ZONE HOURS, AND THE OTHER TWO ARE AT ALL TIMES NO MATTER WHAT.

UM, SO, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, SOME, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE COMMUNICATION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ON DAHLIA STREET RESPONDED TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT NO PARKING.

THERE WAS ONE SPECIFIC PERSON WHO SAID THAT'S A PROBLEM.

'CAUSE HER SON PARKS THERE, UM, LOOKS LIKE FOUR YESES, FIVE NOS.

AND PEOPLE EVEN SAID, YES, PUT THE SIGN IN MY YARD.

UH, WE, UH, WE FOLLOWED UP, UM, FROM OUR MAILS, YOU KNOW, MAILING, UM, WITH, UH, PHONE CALLS.

SO I THINK THIS WAS OUR FINAL, UH, TALLY OF RESPONSE.

SALLY, DO YOU KNOW IF WE GOT ANY TODAY? NO.

SO THIS IS THE FINAL TALLY.

SO I THINK THERE WAS, YOU CAN SEE WHO WAS IN FAVOR AND THEN THERE WAS ONE AGAINST, AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL THAT JUST DIDN'T RESPOND.

BUT THEN WE ALWAYS ASK, YOU KNOW, THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF PUTTING A SIGN IN YOUR YARD? SO YOU SEE THE TABULATION SHEET THERE, AND THEN YOU ALSO, WE, WE MARKED IT ON THE MAP AS WELL.

SO EVERYBODY IN GREEN IS A YES.

AND THEN IF IT'S SURROUNDED WITH A RED LINE, UH, THAT'S, UH, NO, THEY DON'T WANT THE SIGN.

UH, THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE SIGN ON THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UH, AT LEAST THERE'S SEVERAL HOUSES WHERE YOU COULD PUT SIGNS ON THERE.

AND THEN EVERYTHING IN GRAY IS WHERE WE HAD NO RESPONSE.

AND THEN IN BLACK IS, UM, VACANT LOTS.

AND WHAT IS AGAIN, WHAT IS THE GREEN WITH THE BLUE? OH, THE PURPLE.

A PURPLE.

OH, THAT'S THE REQUESTER.

I GOT YOU NOW.

YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS I DO THINK THAT'S, I DO THE IMPRESSION THAT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM THERE MAYBE SO MUCH.

SO EVEN THAT, I THINK THE SCHOOL, IF I'M RECALLING THIS COMMUNICATION CORRECTLY, THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO HOLD WALKERS.

STUDENTS WHO WALK HOME, THEY WON'T BE RELEASING THOSE KIDS UNTIL LIKE SOMETHING LIKE FOUR.

AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THEY THINK THE, THE PARENTS COME EARLY AND THEY PARK THEIR CARS HERE AND THEN THE KIDS WALK, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY WALK HOME.

THEY WALK TO THEIR PARENTS.

AND SO TO SORT OF CURB.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'RE CHANGING.

I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT BRANDON'S CHANGING.

HEARD OF ANYTHING? NO, I HAD NOT HEARD THAT WE CAN REACH OUT.

THAT YOU GET BECAUSE THEY ALREADY STAGGER RELEASE.

SO THAT DIFFERENT GRADES AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

AND THEN I THINK TO PREVENT SOME OF THIS, I THINK, I ASSUME THAT'S WHY I JUST KNOW THAT I GOT A COMMUNICATION THAT SAID THEY WERE CHANGING.

AND GONNA HOLD STUDENTS WHO WALK UNTIL FOUR O'CLOCK BEFORE THEY RELEASE THEM, WHICH I THINK IT KINDA MAKES SENSE TO HOLD THEM BECAUSE THAT WAY TRAFFIC GETS OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

CORRECT.

AND SO, RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNICATION SAID, HEY, WE WANT ALL THE CARS GONE.

UM, BUT THEN I GUESS THE ADDED CALL IT A BENEFIT BENEFIT WOULD BE THAT PARENTS WILL HAVE TO REALLY THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY SIT THERE WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS TO GET OUT FIRST.

SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MAYBE A DOUBLE WHAMMY THERE.

BUT, UM, WELL YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT COUNCILMAN BARTIS IS A BETTER PARENT THAN I AM.

'CAUSE I DIDN'T READ THAT.

YOU VACATION , YOU GOTTA LIVE BACKPACK.

NO WONDER WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

LITTLE.

UH, MR. JACOBS, YOU HAD, YOU'RE DOWN TO REPORT.

JUST, UH, COUPLE OF LAST QUESTIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU WOULD KNOW, RIGHT? WELL, I'M, I WORK THERE.

I'M THERE ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAS COME THERE.

YOU KNOW, I SUGGESTED THAT LAST TIME THAT THEY SHOULD COME AT ABOUT FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION.

TO SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS.

UH, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX, NOT 10, BUT FIVE OR SIX CARS TOTAL.

MAYBE SEVEN ON BOTH SIDES

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OF, OF ACUA.

I'D SAY OUT OF THE 18 TO 20 KIDS THAT WALK TOWARDS ME, SEVEN OR EIGHT GO TO THOSE CARS.

UM, WHAT I THINK IN TERMS OF SIGNAGE FOR A, FOR DELIA STREET, WHERE THE, WHERE IT ENDS IN THE CUL-DE-SAC, MAYBE JUST ONE ENTRANCE SIGN THAT'S NO PARKING IN HERE, THAT MIGHT SOLVE IT, NUMBER ONE.

UM, BUT THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, FOR ME IS, WAS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT PUTTING ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON A CRUISE FROM YEAH.

THROUGH THE S-CURVE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE THAT BACK TO TRAFFIC AND HAVE THEM OKAY.

LOOK AT THAT.

BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THE PEOPLE THAT PARK THERE NOW WILL JUST PARK ON THERE AND THAT'LL MAKE IT EVEN MORE COMPLICATED.

UH, THIS FOUR O'CLOCK THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, TO, TO ME IT DOESN'T MATTER.

LET'S SEE IF I GOT THAT RIGHT.

BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE PARENT, THEY ALL COME TOGETHER.

THEY ALL, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S THE KINDERGARTNERS COME FIRST AND WITHIN TWO MINUTES THE REST OF THE WALKERS COME, UH, FOLLOWING THEM.

SOMETIMES THEY LET 'EM OUT ALL THE SAME TIME.

SO THERE'S NO, LIKE, FIRST FOR THE WALKERS THAT ARE GETTING INTO THE CAR, THEY ALL COME TOGETHER.

SOME OF THEM KEEP ON WALKING TO THEIR HOMES, SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT, BUT YEAH, WHATEVER'S DECIDED.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL TALKED TO ANYBODY PLACEMENT OF SIGNS, BUT AGAIN, I, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO OVER HERE AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SAY, NO, NO, NO, THEY WANT IT, BUT THEY WANT, BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE SIGNS, THEN YOU START GETTING, YOU DON'T GET ASSIGNED TILL MID-BLOCK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH GOOD THAT DOES FOR THE STREET.

IT I AGREE.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE ENTRANCE.

IT JUST SAYS, YOU KNOW, ON THIS STREET OR WHATEVER, NO PARKING BETWEEN THIS TIME.

ON SIDE, DEFINITELY.

BUT, UH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A, A COMMENT, BUT, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT MAJORITY IN FAVOR, SO I MEAN ALRIGHT.

IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, GO, UH, THE ONLY HANGUP I THINK THAT I HATE US GETTING INTO IS THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, FAMILY OVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT PARK OUT BY THE ROAD AND STAY THE NIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT ISSUE OF THEM GETTING A TICKET IN THE MORNING.

YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU COULD ON THE SIGNAGES TO PUT IT FOR NON-RESIDENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT.

YOU CAN'T CHERRY THE, HOW WOULD YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE STICKERS TO THE RESIDENTS.

THAT'D BE HARD TO ENFORCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO.

'CAUSE I HATE, I WOULD HATE FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO GET TICKETS.

CAN I ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION, CHIEF? YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS THEIR FIRST TIME INFRACTION AND IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST HAPPENSTANCE IF SOMEONE WAS THERE, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD GIVE A TICKET? OR DO YOU THINK THE OFFICER WOULD GIVE THEM A WARNING? IT'S EASY IF, IF THE PERSON STILL IN THE CAR IS YEAH.

YOU KNOW, CONTACT 'EM AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T PARK HERE.

YOU SEE THE SIGN.

AND SURE.

WE DO THAT QUITE OFTEN.

OF COURSE, IF IT'S JUST PARKED THERE UNATTENDED, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE THAT PARKED IT OVERNIGHT, IT'S STILL THERE WHEN SCHOOL ZONE STARTED.

THE ASSUMPTION IS IS IF SOMEBODY'S PARKING THERE JUST TO PICK UP THEIR KID, THEY'RE SITTING IN THE CAR AND THE PERSON'S PARKING THERE LIVING AT THE HOUSE, THEY'RE NOT IN THE CAR.

SO OFFICER HAS THAT LATITUDE, I GUESS.

THE KIND OF DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN PARKED UNATTENDED AND STANDING.

HAVE, HAS THE SCHOOL CONTACTED OR COMMUNICATED IN ANY WAY WITH THE PARENTS REGARDING THESE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF? WE HAVE NOT.

I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IS, HEY, PARENTS, THESE, THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE SCHOOL DON'T WANT YOU PARKING OR THEIR HOUSE.

WE HAVEN'T COMMUNICATED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE'RE SEEING A PROBLEM THERE.

WE COULD ALWAYS TRY THAT FIRST AND SEE IF THEY COULD RECOMMUNICATE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE PARENTS.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THOUGH IS THAT, UM, I DON'T, ON NOT ALL THE PARENTS COMMUNICATION, MY OBSERVATION IS JUST THERE ARE SOME PARENTS THAT ARE ABSENT, THEY JUST DON'T WANNA STAND IN LINE BECAUSE THE LINE MOVES VERY QUICKLY.

AND I THINK, I GUESS THEY JUST PERCEIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE LINE'S LONG, BUT IT MOVES QUICKLY.

THEY MUST PERCEIVE THAT, OH, I'M JUST GONNA GET HUNG UP THERE AND I CAN DO IT QUICKER.

I WOULD ALMOST ASSUME IF THAT INFORMATION IS ACCURATE, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING SOME COMPLAINTS.

SO INPUT, AND THAT'S WHY THEY CHANGED.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

I KNOW AT THE FIRST OF YEAR AND MID-YEAR ALSO GIVES TRAFFIC TIME TO GET OUT OF THERE.

THE PROBLEM WITH NO LOADING OR UNLOADING IS THAT, UM, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO CATCH THEM IN THE LOADING OR UNLOADING ACT.

SO THE KIDS WALK AND THERE'S NOT QUITE AS MANY CARS, UH, AROUND, WE CHANGE A SIGN TO NO STANDING INSTEAD OF NO WATER.

SIR, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST NO LOADING OR UNLOADING.

COULD WE, I MEAN, DO YOU GET AROUND

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I MEAN, NO LOADING OR UNLOADING IS USUALLY IMMEDIATE BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING BOXES OUT OR PUTTING BOXES IN OR CHILDREN OR TWO.

AND, UM, I, YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE LOADING OR UNLOADING AND I THINK THEY'VE GOT IT.

THEY WOULD BE LIKE, NO, I'M JUST SITTING HERE.

I'M NOT LOADING NOTHING.

IF THE CHILD GETS IN THE CAR, THEN YOU GET A TICKET.

UNLESS YOU CATCH THE CHILDREN IN THE ACT.

SO MY PROBLEM IS THE PE THAT FIRST NO, RIGHT THERE WHERE THEIR SON PARKS IN THE STREET.

I, I HATE TO MAKE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.

HAVE WE, HAVE WE PUT SOMEONE THERE TO SPEAK WITH THE PEOPLE BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING? NO, WE'VE ONLY SENT OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LETTER I SAYING THAT WE HAVE, WE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT GO OVER THERE TO TRY TO TALK TO 'EM.

OH, TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING.

MAY, MAYBE THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND JUST, UH, WARN THEM PERSONALLY.

UH, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE FROM SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL.

THERE'S NOTHING TO WARN 'EM ABOUT.

THERE'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S, WE HAVEN'T AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S NO REGULATION OF IT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW.

WE'D JUST BE ASKING THEM AS FAR AS THE SIGN GOES.

IF YOU LOOK AT 1 0 9 THERE, WHICH THEY DIDN'T COMMENT, BUT RIGHT ON THE CORNER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, LEAVING THE CUL-DE-SAC, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THE, THE INFORMATION IS NECESSARY WHEN YOU TURN ONTO THE CUL-DE-SAC.

OR COME STRAIGHT ACROSS.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE ON THAT.

SO WE COULD WEST SIDE OF THE CORNER THERE, WHICH IS REALLY CAN, AND THIS MAY BE A RENTER OR SOMETHING, DON'T, DON'T KNOW REASON WHY WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE BACK.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND YAY OR NAY OR WHATEVER.

SO WE COULD PUT A SIGN THERE FOR THIS STREET.

AND, UH, SAME THING OVER HERE.

WE COULD DO THE SAME THING HERE.

UH, BECAUSE THAT'S PARKWAY TOO.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS BACK UP THIS, UP THIS DIRECTION.

WELL, WE CAN GO FORWARD AND THEN JUST, I, I MEAN ASK, WE'VE GOT SMART OFFICERS JUST HIT ON IT AND JUST SAY, HEY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION FACTOR IN, IF THAT CAR HAS BEEN THERE ALL NIGHT, YOU KNOW, LET'S, YOU KNOW, USE YOUR JUDGMENT.

WELL THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

UM, BUT THE TIME PERIOD'S JUST LIKE 30 MINUTES OR OH.

UM, IT ENDS UP BEING THE HOUR, HOUR OR SO.

SOME, SOME HOUR AND A SHORT HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF IN THE MORNING.

NO, I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD GO THAT LONG BECAUSE THEY'RE DROPPING 'EM OFF AND THEN YEAH.

THE MORNING ISN'T THE SAME.

AN HOUR 15 PROBABLY THE AFTERNOON IS PROBABLY THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD GET CAUGHT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE MORNING.

IT'S BEEN USUALLY THE AFTERNOON.

I THINK ANOTHER QUESTION.

A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE ALL OF THE PEOPLE THERE, WHICH IS SEVEN OR EIGHT CALLS, THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

'CAUSE I TOLD THEM.

SO THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S CHANGES IN THE WIND.

UM, THEY'RE NOT CRAZY UPSET ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING.

THEY JUST KNOW, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF 'EM SAID, WELL, I'LL GO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO PARK .

YOU KNOW, OTHERS SAID THEY'LL, THEY'LL DEAL WITH IT.

SOME OF THEM WHO HAVE THREE KIDS, YOU KNOW, SAID THEY'LL NEED TO SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT THE TIMING OF HOW THEY'LL, FROM MY, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY WIFE WHO PICKS UP SPECIAL NEEDS KID, SHE HAS TO POSITION HERSELF IN A CERTAIN WAY.

SO SHE GETS THERE WHEN THE KID GETS OUT.

IF NOT HAS TO.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERN, BUT THEY'RE ALL AWARE THAT COMING THE NEW YEAR, THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHANGES.

ON, ON THAT ASPECT.

AND IN TERMS OF PARKING, ISN'T IT, THERE'S TWO OR THERE'S TWO OTHER STREETS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON THE CUL-DE-SAC SIDE.

THEY HAVE NO PARKING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME, WE'VE JUST BEEN PUSHING THE PROBLEM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE PARKING OVERNIGHT, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROBABLY RIGHT.

WE COULD CHANGE IT TO THREE TO FOUR 15 ONLY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THOSE MORNING HOURS.

THE MORNING, I MEAN, MORNING'S ONLY A COUPLE OF CARS.

IT'S REAL FAST.

IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE IN THE MORNING THEY, THEY DROP KIDS OFF AT THEIR TIME AND IT STAGGERS YEAH.

IN THE AFTERNOONS.

LIKE THEY OPEN THE GATE.

AND EVERYBODY READS IT ONE TIME.

THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD HELP.

YOU KNOW, JUST THE QUITTING TIME, THE AFTERNOON TIME AND YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES THE PD AN ATTITUDE TO ENFORCE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.

AND, UH, WITHOUT THAT THEY JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW.

AND SO MAYBE A FEW TIMES BEING TOLD THAT THEY CAN'T PARK THERE, THEY'RE JUST SINK IN.

STUDENTS UNTIL 4:00 PM EACH DAY BEFORE THEY'LL WALK TO THE CROSSING AREAS.

MODESTO, YOU WANNA READ THE LETTER? YEAH.

UH, COUNCILMAN BROUGHT US A TEXT TO ME, THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE BRANDON FAMILIES.

SO I'LL JUST READ THE SUBSTANCE OF IT.

IT SAYS, DUE TO THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN SEVERAL INSTANCES THAT HAVE PLACED STUDENTS INTO THE PATH OF VEHICLES, WE ARE REVISITING THE CURRENT PROCEDURES FOR THE WALKERS.

OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WE WILL BE HOLDING THE WALKING

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UPON REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AROUND BRANDON, THIS TIME IS OPTIMAL FOR THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS.

AS MUCH OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION WILL BE CLEARED BY THIS TIME.

THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEN, UM, I KNOW MY DAUGHTER GETS OUT AT 3 45 EVEN THOUGH SCHOOL GETS OUT 'CAUSE THEY DO STAGGER THEM.

THAT MAY CAUSE A LOT OF THE PARENTS JUST TO GO AHEAD AND GET IN, GET IN THE LINE, GET IN THE LINE, .

RIGHT? YEAH.

MAYBE PERHAPS WAIT ANOTHER AFTER FIRST OF THE YEAR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE WE MAKE A CHANGE.

WE DON'T WANNA MOVE THE PROBLEM SOMEWHERE ELSE EITHER.

SO, UM, UH, THAT'S ONE OPTION.

THAT'S SOMETHING NEW WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHEN TRAFFIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE CHANGE.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD'VE MADE THE SAME CHANGE IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS, UH, IMPENDING CHANGE BY THE VISD.

SO WE GOT SEVERAL THINGS ON THE TABLE.

ONE OF 'EM WAS, THE SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE, WE CHANGE THE, WE DO, WE REMOVE THE SEVEN TO EIGHT 30 AND WE, UH, AND, AND SO FORTH.

SO, UH, BUT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, UH, DRAFT HERE.

FIRST READING THAT'S, UH, THAT WE DO HAVE HERE THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT.

THE SECOND READING OR, OR DECIDE, YOU KNOW, SECOND READING WON'T BE UNTIL, UH, AT THE EARLIEST WOULD BE THE EIGHTH.

JANUARY 8TH DOES, I MEAN DOES IT EVERYBODY SCHOOL WOULDN'T BE BACK IN SESSION THEN YET.

WHAT? UM, THEY WILL.

THEY'LL, THEY GO BACK TO SCHOOL THE FIFTH, FOURTH WINTER.

FOURTH OR FIFTH.

FOURTH OR FIFTH ROTATION WHERE YOUR KIDS, YOU'LL CATCH.

DOES EVERYBODY LIKE THAT? JUST USING THE AFTERNOON HOURS? IT SOLVES THAT ISSUE OF SOMEBODY THAT STAYS OVERNIGHT BUT GIVES Y'ALL SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.

BUT STILL GIVES US A PATH FORWARD.

WELL THAT'S, LOOK TO ME WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE IT A TRY.

SO IF I CHANGE THAT IN THE MOTION, WE CAN, THIS WILL STILL BE THE FIRST READING.

THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NEW ORDINANCE NUMBER 2280 WITH THE CHANGE ON DAHLIA STREET JUST TO BE ENFORCED IN THE AFTERNOON SCHOOL ZONE HOURS.

BUT, AND, AND WITH THAT YOU'RE ALSO APPROVING THE, UH, THE OTHER ONES CORRECT.

THE OTHER TWO RI SO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? WELL, LET'S DO A A DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? AND THEN WE'LL READ THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE? I'LL SECOND.

YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE ACTUAL YES SIR.

ORDINANCE WITH THAT CHANGE IN THERE.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER 98, TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES AND THE LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO DESIGNATE PARTS OF DAHLIA STREET OAK DRIVE SOUTH AND CON STREET AS A NO PARKING ZONE DURING SPLIT DAY.

SCHOOL ZONE HOURS.

PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES ARE PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE, WHICH SHALL BE REPEALED TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONFLICT.

ONLY PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND PROVIDING THAT THE ORDINANCE SHALL TAKE EFFECT AND BE ENFORCED FIVE DAYS AFTER PUBLICATION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

TO ITEM TWO TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FROM TRAFFIC COMMISSION TO INSTALL A STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALMOND DRIVE AND CASHEW.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. Discuss and consider a recommendation from the Traffic Commission to install a Stop sign at the intersection of Almond Dr. and Cashew Dr. – Milford John-Williams ]

MILFORD.

MAN, THIS IS ONE'S YOURS.

YOU ARE EXCITED.

HE, HE DOESN'T, I CAN SEE THE EXCITEMENT.

, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA GET A POINTER, POINTER CLICKER.

OH.

SO HE CAN ALSO MOVE THE SLIDESHOW? UH, YEAH.

SO THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT TO, UM, THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEETING ON NOVEMBER 14TH.

UH, MISS DORIS ON 2 0 7 ALMOND, SHE REQUESTED TO AT A STOP SIGN AT CASHEW AND SPEED HUMP ALMOND.

UM, THIS WAS, THIS TAKEN BACK TO THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEETING LAST WEEK.

THEY RECOMMENDED, UH, SPEED HUMPS.

I MEAN, THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND SPEED HUMPS, BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL, UH, THERE WE GO.

UM, TO HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGN, I MEAN A STOP SIGN AT THIS INTERSECTION.

AND, UH, FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS WHERE SHE LIVES.

WHAT SHE NOTED WAS THAT SHE, UH, SAW INSTANCES OF PEOPLE JUST COMING ON A RIGHT ON, ON LAKE ROAD THROUGH CASHEW AND JUST, JUST CAREENING OVER, UM, BY HER HOUSE.

SO SHE HAD CONCERNS REGARDING THAT AND WANTED THAT TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST A STOP SIGN AT JUST ONE STOP SIGN OR THREEWAY

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STOP.

ONE ONE AT THE T INTERSECTION AT CASHEW.

CASHEW CORNER.

SO FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, I LIVE RIGHT DOWN HERE AT THE CORNER.

SO I MAKE THAT TURN ABOUT 20 TIMES A DAY ON HOW I MADE WHEELS.

NO, AND I'M GONNA RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH TRAFFIC COMMISSION.

THERE IS TYPICALLY SO MANY CARS PARKED ON THE STREET ON THIS WHOLE SECTION RIGHT HERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THE DATA THEY COLLECTED, THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS 30 MILES AN HOUR.

AND THE MAXIMUM AVERAGE IS WELL BELOW THAT.

YOU SIMPLY CANNOT GET, AND I MEAN THIS, THIS LENGTH OF STREET RIGHT HERE IS LIKE FROM ME TO JAMES.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN BE GOING 70 MILES AN HOUR IN THAT SHORT STRETCH.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED ON THE STREET FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND I DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES RIGHT.

THERE.

ADD STOP SIGNS AND I WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH OVER NO SPEED PUMPS ON THAT STREET.

AND THE, THE LOW SPEEDS THAT THEY FOUND ON THEIR, UM, ON THE STUDY WAS THE REASON THAT SPEED HUMPS WERE NOT RIGHT.

SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED FOR VERY LONG.

AND I MEAN, THEY GOTTA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROBLEM, AND IT'S NOT THAT NOBODY DOESN'T EVER SPEED DOWN THAT ROAD.

THEY THEY DO.

BUT I REALLY SEE MORE SPEEDING DOWN THERE ON MY CORNER.

'CAUSE I LIVE ON THE OUTSIDE CORNER.

UM, AND IT'S A 90 DEGREE TURN AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING AND DON'T MAKE THAT TURN.

UM, BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S TYPICALLY SO MANY CARS PARKED UP AND DOWN THE STREET RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, JUST TO NAVIGATE, THERE'S, YOU CAN'T BE SPEED.

NO.

A STOP SIGN DOESN'T CONTROL SPEED ANYWAY.

NO.

AND I MEAN, IF I WAS GONNA DO, ESTABLISHES WHO GETS TO GO FIRST.

AND IF I WOULD DID ANYTHING AT THERE, I WOULD PUT A YIELD SIGN.

BUT EVEN THAT, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S AN UNNECESSARY INTERVENTION.

THAT'S JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVING THERE FOR A LONG TIME, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO YIELD.

SO, I MEAN, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO YIELD, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT A YIELD SIGN JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING MOST WOULD BE.

AND THE OTHER THING IS REAL QUICK WAS ON THE DATA WAS KIND OF WEIRD BECAUSE THIS DATA WAS, I DON'T KNOW, WAS IT FOR BOTH SIDES? NO, THE, THE MARKER MARKERS HAVE BEEN JUST KIND OF OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S DOWN HERE.

THAT'S WHY IT'S DIFFERENT.

BECAUSE WHAT WAS MESSED ME UP WAS THIS, THIS DATA WAS SHOWING LIKE 9,000 VEHICLES.

THIS WAS SHOWING 13,000 VEHICLES.

SO I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS, IT WASN'T CATCHING THIS TRAFFIC THIS WAY.

I GOT YOU.

WE HAVE REPOSITIONED THE, UH, THE COUNTERS TO RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE.

'CAUSE I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHERE WE HAD PLACED THE OTHER SECOND ENCOUNTERS.

AND SHE SAID THEY WERE SPEEDING RIGHT NEXT TO HER OUT.

SO WE DIDN'T REALLY, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DISPUTE THAT.

UH, SO I DID ASK PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY REPOSITIONED THEM ON THURSDAY, UH, OR WEDNESDAY.

AND SO THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW COLLECTING DATA AND I THINK THERE'S SMACK DAB IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO, SO OVER TIME WE CAN HAVE A NEW SET OF DATA TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY, ANY SPEEDING IN THAT AREA.

TO ME, CASHEW, THERE IS A MAIN ARTERY COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HATE TO PUT A STOP SIGN.

IT IS.

IT IS, YEAH.

CASHEW WITH CASHEW AND THERE'S ALREADY STOP SIGNS AND ASK ME HOW, I KNOW THIS MAY HAVE GOTTEN PULLED OVER RIGHT HERE FOR ROLLING THROUGH IT, BUT, UH, THERE'S ALREADY STOP SIGN RIGHT HERE.

LIKE HOW DO YOU GET PULLED OVER BETWEEN CASHEW AND RAPORT HOSPITAL? I DO .

I'M MANAGED.

AGAIN, MY, MY OPINION IS, IS IF WE DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, WOULD BE JUST PUT, GO AHEAD AND JUST PUT A YIELD SIGN THERE.

JUST REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO YIELD THEIR NOT, AND I WOULD SAY I WOULD DO NOTHING.

PAUL, WHAT YOU GOT? OH, I JUST .

HE ASKED ME TO GET DATA, BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T RECALL.

WE WENT BACK A FEW YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD ANY ACCIDENT.

IT'S IN OUR, IT'S IN OUR PACKET.

THERE'S BEEN ACCIDENTS.

THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT LAST YEAR.

STOOD OUT, BUT IT WAS AS BEING IN THE INTERSECTION.

NO, IT WAS AT THE, IT WAS DOWN ON THE CURB.

THE DATA IN THE PACKET SHOWS MOST OF ACCIDENTS WERE PEOPLE BACKING UP INTO A VEHICLE, INTO A VEHICLE COMING OUTTA THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND STUFF BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S PARKED IN THE STREET.

JUST THE NUMBERS DON'T WARRANT IT.

I MEAN, THE MEDIAN IS IN THE TEENS.

THE SPEED'S JUST NOT THERE.

THE DATA'S NOT SHOWING.

SO I, I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

SO, UM, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING THIS BACK IN JANUARY WITH THE NEW SPEED DATA TO SEE IF IT'S ANYTHING OR, SURE.

I DON'T, I DON'T IF IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT, UH, I GUESS WHAT WE COULD SAY, IF, IF, IF WE DO READ THE DATA AND FIND OUT THAT IT IS OVER THE 85TH PERCENTILE, WE COULD LET YOU KNOW AND BRING IT BACK FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT IF IT'S NOT, IF IT, IF IT REPEATS WHAT IT, WHAT'S THERE SHOWING 24 OR I, AND I MEAN THEY'VE MOVED TO THOSE MARKERS MAYBE 10 FEET.

I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT EVEN, THEY ARE REPOSITIONED NOW.

I DON'T WANNA SEE A REASON TO PUT A STOP SIGN TO CONTROL SPEED.

I MEAN THEY'RE, THERE'S NOT ANY SIGNIFICANT EVEN REPOSITIONING THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION.

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IF THIS ISSUE IS THE SPEED HERE, THEN STOP SIGN IS NOT GONNA HELP WHEN THEY'RE GONNA PEEL AFTER STOPPING.

SO IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY WORSE.

SO I, I'LL ALRIGHT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A CONSENSUS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS.

UH, IF Y'ALL, IF YOU GET SOME NUMBERS ARE REALLY DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT, THEN YOU CAN YEAH.

IF WE SEE SOMETHING, WE'LL BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.

I'M GONNA BE DRIVING REALLY SLOW OVER THE, OKAY.

[3. Discuss and consider Charter Review Commission recommendations. – Sherri Russell ]

DISCUSSING CONSIDER, UH, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS, SIR.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

MILFORD, IF YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE BOOKMARK.

LET'S JUST RUN THROUGH THE, THESE MAJOR CHANGES THAT THEY WANT.

THE THIS FIRST ONE IS, UM, TO TAKE CARE OF HOW TO APPOINT SOMEBODY IF THE MAYOR IS ALMOST HIT BY A BUS, A RUN OVER.

NO, IT'S A BEER TRUCK.

BEER TRUCK GETS HIT BY THE BEER TRUCK AND IT'S, THEY WANT TO, UH, A CURRENT CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO GET APPOINTED BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMEONE WHO'S RECENTLY ELECTED TO BE IN THAT SPOT.

SO YOU WOULD NEED TO APPOINT SOMEONE ON COUNCIL AND THEN APPOINT SOMEONE FOR THAT VACANT SPOT JUST FOR, TO THE END OF TERM.

UM, 4 0 6 UC MEDICINE IS STRICKEN.

THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SANITATION.

THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT A DOCTOR IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN JUST THREE OTHER PEOPLE, THEY WANTED TO TAKE AWAY THE RESTRICTIONS SAYING, NO MORE MEDICAL PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS IS A MEDICAL BOARD.

AND SO IF MEDICAL PEOPLE WANNA BE ON IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT MORE MEDICAL PEOPLE ON IT.

UM, 4 0 9, THEY WANTED TO ADD DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC OR THE DESIGNEE.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD, BUT THEY DON'T THINK IT'S IS UNDERSTOOD.

AND THEY ARE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THEY THINK MORE DEEPLY ABOUT THESE THINGS THAN I DO.

7 0 3 IS A CLEANUP TO HAVE.

REFERENDUM IS WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE AN ORDINANCE, Y'ALL JUST PASSED.

THAT'S WHAT A REFERENDUM IS TO, TO NEGATE AN ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL PASSED.

AND SO WHAT THIS DOES, THIS RED, THESE RED MARKINGS, IT, IT MAKES IT THE SAME AS, UM, AN INITIATIVE OR THE RECALL.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING.

AND 7 0 7 IS SOMETHING WE ASKED FOR THEM WHEN WE HAD, UM, THE INITIATIVE LAST TIME.

THE QUESTION WAS, UH, WHEN DOES THAT TAKE EFFECT? WHEN, WHEN DOES THEIR ORDINANCE TAKE EFFECT WHEN YOU ALL COME AND, UM, VERIFY THE ELECTION OR RIGHT AFTER EVERYONE VOTES AFTER THEY'RE TALLIED.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S IMMEDIATELY.

SO, AND LUCKILY, UH, WE'VE ONLY DONE ONE AND THAT WAS A SIMPLE ORDINANCE I'D HATE TO SEE IMMEDIATELY FOR A COMPLICATED ORDINANCE.

THOSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD NEED TO GO TO CHARTER.

THESE OTHER LITTLE ONES, UH, WE CAN JUST, UM, ADDING IN THE CITY WEBSITE, WHICH SHOULD ALREADY BE THERE.

I MUST HAVE MISSED IT.

UM, EXPLAINING WHAT VTCA MEANS.

FIXING SOME, JUST SOME LITTLE INDENTIONS AND THINGS.

THOSE THINGS, UH, WE CAN ASK THE QUANTIFIER TO DO.

'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE NOT CHANGES, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO ONE ABOUT THE IMMEDIATELY OR NOT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I DO HAVE CONCERN ABOUT A VERY COMPLICATED ORDINANCE CHANGE.

'CAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT LIKE, UH, HOUSTON JUST MADE A MAJOR CHANGE IN THEIR CHARTER.

THEIR CHARTER.

AND, UH, THEN THAT THE WAY THEY WROTE THE UH, UH, THE BALLOT LANGUAGE WAS, IS THAT IT WOULD GO IN EFFECT WITH WITHIN 60 DAYS.

AND SO THAT GAVE, THAT'S GIVING THE ENTITIES THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED TIME TO DISCUSS IT AND, UH, MAKE CHANGES THAT THEY NEED TO, TO COMPLY.

UH, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, NEXT DAY THEY GOTTA COMPLY TO SOME, A COMPLICATED ORDINANCE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST SOME INPUT.

I THINK I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE GOT TO HAVE SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW THAT NEED TO BE FOR WHETHER ORDINANCE TO BE EFFECTIVE AND PROPERLY ENFORCED.

SO I'M NOT SAYING 60 DAYS B, BUT IT COULD BE THERE SOME LENGTH OF TIME FOR THE ENTITIES TO GET, CAN'T YOU ALWAYS JUST ADD THAT INTO THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, BUT YOU ALWAYS SELECT THE BALLOT.

THESE AREN'T, THESE ARE, THESE ARE INITIATIVES BY THE PEOPLE.

SO THEY'RE WRITING THE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IS A CITY YEAH.

CITY CHARTER.

AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WRITE THE ORDINANCE

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LIKE THAT.

THEY DRAFT SPECIFIC CHANGES.

THIS IS SORT OF, WE LET 'EM SAY, YEAH, WHATEVER.

I WANT TO KEEP COWS.

AND THAT WE DON'T MAKE 'EM GO IN AND GIVE EDITED VERSIONS OF THIS.

SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE IN A PERFECT WORLD.

WE WOULD KNOW.

THIS WILL NEVER BE TRUE.

BUT, BUT YEAH.

I MEAN, YEAH, IN A PERFECT WORLD THEY WOULD GO IN RED.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE VOTING ON SPECIFIC RED LINES, BUT RIGHT.

THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN.

WELL, BUT THEY DO REWRITE THE ORDINANCE.

THIS, WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE AND WHAT THEY DID WAS TOOK MY DRAFT AND THAT'S WHY IT, IT HAD THE RED LINES AND IT WAS SO, UM, SOMEONE COULD COME.

AND THIS IS WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT INITIATIVE.

SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND WRITE JUST THIS VAGUE THING AND HAVE IT PASS AND WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE WHAT IT MEANS.

VAGUENESS PROBLEMS POTENTIALLY.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE VOTE DON'T, DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, UH, LANGUAGE, NOT PARDON ME, THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.

SO EVERY SINGLE ELECTION.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, AND AND SHERRY'S RIGHT TOO, LIKE THE, THE, THE VAGUENESS OF THE, THERE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

AND YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HAVE VAGUE, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO .

BUT, UM, YEAH.

THAT, THAT COULD BE IF IF IF WE'RE BEING CALLED UPON TO .

AND I, IT'S, THIS IS A DELICATE BALANCE, RIGHT.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOME VAGUE, BROAD THING THAT PASSES, IF WE TRY TO TIGHTEN IT UP TO THE POINT OF MAKING IT CONSTITUTIONAL, THERE'S THE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SAY, WELL, THAT, WELL, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S TOO TIGHT.

WE DON'T WANT IT THAT TIGHT.

WE WANT IT BIG.

AND THAT'S WHAT PASSED.

BUT IF YOU, IF YOU CODIFIED THAT, IT WOULDN'T PASS MUSTER CONSTITUTIONALLY PROB, YOU KNOW, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT SORT OF CONFLICT THERE.

SO EVEN IF WE TRY TO TUNE IT UP AND MAKE IT BETTER, WE'LL HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE THING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WHEN WE DO THE ORDINANCE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT SO THAT THEIR INTENT RIGHT.

IS THERE BECAUSE YOU, YOU DO HAVE TO CLEAN THINGS UP SOMETIMES.

UM, BUT, BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE INTENT.

SO THERE'S MIGHT BE SOME NEGOTIATIONS LOOKING, WELL, MAYBE LIKE THE MAYOR SAID THAT, UH, HOUSTON, THEY, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN WE HAVE AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A BETTER OUTLOOK ON IT.

THEY, THEY HAVE A MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN WE HAVE A WELL, THE OTHER THING IS REAL QUICK IS WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON IT.

THE REALITY IS, IS IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE CONTINUES IN DIRECT ARE GOING TO, UH, WHICH THEY TRY TO DO IT THIS YEAR, THIS TIME AROUND, THEY'LL PROBABLY TRY IT AGAIN NEXT TIME, IS THAT ANY BALLOT LANGUAGE IS TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE, WHICH WILL NEVER, THEY'LL NEVER MAKE THE TIMELINES.

THAT'S, THAT'S AGAINST PEOPLE.

THEY'RE STILL PUSHING FORWARD AGAINST PEOPLE INSTEAD OF FOUR OF THE PEOPLE.

THEY'LL NEVER MAKE THE TIMELINES.

IT'S, THAT'S A RULE.

THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

BUT I CAN GO LOOK AT YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING.

IT WAS JUST WHEN CI, IF SAFE CITIZEN CAME IN AND UNFAMILIAR WITH THE REST OF THE ORDINANCES AND THEY WANTED YOUR REFERENDUM FOR AN ORDINANCE, BUT IT CONFLICTS WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, IT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

HOW DOES THIS KIND OF A PROBABLY A RANDOM QUESTION.

HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT IMMEDIATELY MAY BE A PROBLEM.

IT'S 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT KIND OF THINK THROUGH.

THAT'S NOT REALLY THEIR JOB TO THINK IT THROUGH.

IT WOULD BE MORE OF OURS OR YOURS.

LEMME CHECK AND SEE WHAT HOUSTON'S DOING SINCE WE HAVE TIME.

AND JUST TO, I GUESS TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THIS BEING ATTACHED TO REFERENDUMS, I COULD SEE WHERE THE PEOPLE THINK WE HAD TO GO AROUND CITY COUNCIL TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

THE WORD IMMEDIATE IS FORCING COUNCIL TO PUT IT IN PLACE SO THEY CAN'T DRAG THEIR FEET ON SOMETHING THAT CITIZENS WANTED.

SO I GET THAT SIDE OF IT TOO.

AND I THINK IT JUST ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS.

WE'VE GOT TIME JUST TO DISCUSS THIS MORE.

AND SHERRY'S GONNA LOOK AND SEE.

I'LL, I'LL CHECK OUT, I'LL CHECK OUT THE, UM, I'LL CHECK OUT HOUSTON AND, AND THEIR RECENT ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NOT CHANGE.

ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WHAT THE, THE, THE MEAT OF WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE ORDINANCE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THEIR INTENT.

UM, THAT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

I'LL, I'LL CHECK OUT HOUSTON, BUT I'LL WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER ONES? I MEAN, THEY, THEY SEEM PRETTY, THEY SEEM OKAY.

THEY'RE FINE TO ME.

YEAH, THEY'RE FINE.

THE OTHER ONES OKAY, SO WE'LL JUST CONCENTRATE ON 7 0 7.

IT'S OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.

[4. Authorize the City Manager to execute a mowing contract with Yellowstone Landscape for Highways through the Choice Partners Contract 20/030MR-04 in an amount not exceeding $116,640 as budgeted. – Robin Hyden ]

UH, WE HAVE, UH, AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MOWING CONTRACT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPE FOR HIGHWAYS THROUGH THE, UH, CHOICE PARTNERS CONTRACT.

UH, AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EX NOT EXCEEDING $116,640

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AS BUDGETS.

DID ROBIN? YES.

GOOD EVENING Y'ALL.

UM, SO IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS GONE OUT AND WE USUALLY GO FOR THE BIDS, LIKE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AND THEN ON THE HIGHWAYS.

UM, THIS LAST YEAR, YELLOWSTONE'S CONTRACT RAN OUT, THEIR EXTENSIONS RAN OUT.

AND WE ALSO FOUND OUT AT THAT TIME THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE CHOICE PARTNERS, WHICH IS A CO-OP PURCHASING CO-OP.

SO, UM, THEY'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB FOR US AND WE'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ON ANYTHING.

THEY DO.

WE'VE DECIDED INSTEAD OF GOING OUT FOR THE BIDS TO TRY TO RENEW, TO RENEW THEIR CONTRACT THROUGH THE CHOICE PARTNERS CO-OP, UM, THEY'VE AGAIN BEEN AN OUTSTANDING, UM, CONTRACTOR.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB ON THE ROADS.

UM, USUALLY ANYTIME WE CALL RAMEN, I DON'T REMEMBER ANYBODY EVER ANYBODY ELSE EVER RESPONDING FOR HIGHWOOD BID MOWING EXCEPT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DID THE LAST TIME.

I REALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS PART OF THAT 'CAUSE IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

'CAUSE I KNOW WE DID AN EXTENSION LAST YEAR.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY COMPETITION.

I I DON'T THINK SO EITHER.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, AS THE MOWING GOES, SOMETIMES WE GET PEOPLE YEAH, IT'S YELLOWSTONE.

YELLOWSTONE IS THE STATE CONTRACTOR.

AND FOR THE EASTERN AREA, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB.

ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHWAYS, WHICH IS KIND OF A DANGEROUS AREA TOO.

AND THEY HAVE THE CREWS THAT HANDLE THAT TOO.

SO, AND AGAIN, LIKE HE SAID, THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ANYONE THAT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK, BUT WE'VE EXTENDED THEIR CONTRACTS SEVERAL TIMES, SO ON THAT.

SO, UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO, ANY QUESTIONS ON THEM OR NO? DO YOU WANNA GO IN SOME OF THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE'RE AT WHILE WE'RE AT? THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE ON THIS IS JUST, UH, WE OUGHT TO GET STATE TO GET BACK TO PAY THE SHARE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PAYING STATE TAXES TO, FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THEIR SERVICE AND THEY ARE TO TO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THAT.

I, I HAVE SENT A, YOU KNOW, A QUESTION TO OUR AREA DIRECTOR LOOKING FOR A CONTACT IN THE HOUSTON OFFICE TO SEE REALLY WHAT IT WAS IT, THE STATE MOWS, I BELIEVE THREE TIMES A YEAR.

AND THEY MOW WHEN IT GETS TO A CERTAIN HEIGHT, WE STARTED SUPPLEMENTING AND ONCE WE STARTED SUPPLEMENTING WHEN THE STATE WOULD COME AROUND, IT'S LOWER THEN NOT THAT HEIGHT THAN THEIR REQUIRED HEIGHT.

THEN THEY DON'T MOW.

UH, AND THEN WE APPROACHED HIM, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME ABOUT COULD WE PARTICIPATE IN GETTING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR IT.

AND IT WAS, IF YOU WANT TO, THEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OR NOTHING.

AND THEY WANTED US TO MOW ALL OF 2004 STEM TO STERN, ALL OF 3 32 TO BRAZORIA EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.

AND WE WERE LIKE, UH, NO.

AND SO WE JUST KIND OF BACKED OFF.

UH, BUT I THOUGHT, WELL, WHEN I SAW THIS AS A STANDALONE PRICE, I WAS LIKE, UH, THAT'S A LOT .

SO I THOUGHT THAT MAY, LET'S TAKE ANOTHER STAB 'CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE WE'VE TALKED TO THEM AND SEEM, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD AT LEAST GET REIMBURSED FOR THREE MO THREE MOWINGS.

THREE MOWINGS.

WHICH WON'T, YOU SAID IT WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE BUNCH, BUT IT'D BE LIKE 23,000.

BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

IT WOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THE TREAT THINGS.

UM, THERE WOULD BE A SLIGHT INCREASE OF COURSE THIS YEAR WITH EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S A 3%.

UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE KIND OF EXPECTED, YOU KNOW, WITH COST INFLATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR ROBIN ON THIS ITEM? HOW DO ANGLETON TAKE CARE OF THEIR SIDE OF SO AND I, THIS HAS BEEN A WHILE AND THINGS COULD HAVE CHANGED ON THAT.

THEY ACTUALLY DO IT IN HOUSE.

UM, THEY, SO WHEN THEY DID THEIR, WHEN I WAS THERE YEARS AGO AND THEY TOOK OVER THEIR HIGHWAY, THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAD, THEY ACTUALLY WAS PRETTY BAD.

THEY HAD TO, THAT'S WHY THEIRS ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE A GOLF COURSE BECAUSE THEY HAD SO MANY HIGH SPECIFICATIONS THEY HAD TO DO, YOU HAD TO WEEDING AROUND ALL THE, THE CREPE MYRTLES, THE TREES.

AND SO THEY BUDGETED THAT AND HIRED A NEW POSITION FOR THAT, WHICH IS NOW UNDER THEIR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY STILL HANDLE THAT.

UM, IT'S A FULL-TIME POSITION THAT THAT'S ALL HE DOES IS THE HIGHWAY.

SO THEY REIMBURSE FROM THE STATE? NO.

NO.

AS FAR NOT AS LONG.

FAR MUCH AS I KNOW.

AND ALL THEY'RE MOW THEY'RE MOWING AROUND THE TREES BASICALLY.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THEIR, UM, IT WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEIR KEEP ANGLETON BEAUTIFUL.

AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT.

UM, BUT I DO REMEMBER THEM BRINGING IT IN AND THEY, THEY DON'T GET REIMBURSED FOR ANYTHING WE DO.

THEY DO A GOOD JOB AT IT.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.

SO YEAH.

TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A GOLF COURSE.

AND WE DO GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT FROM NORTHWOOD FOR WHAT WE KNOW.

WE DO THAT CORNER PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT.

WHEN WE, WE TOOK IT OFF THE MARKET FOR SALE.

AND, AND PUT IT BACK AS PARKLAND.

AND, UM, THE HOAS, UH, AGREED TO REIMBURSE US FOR THAT MO SO THEY DO RE IT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH, IT'S LIKE $3,500 I THINK FOR THE YEAR.

BUT, BUT THEY DO PAY FOR THAT CORON LOT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF THEY WOULD EVER REIMBURSE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE TREES AND STUFF THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF AND ABOUT TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE.

MR DASH ZERO FOUR IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $116,640 AS PRESENTED AND BUDGETED.

IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION, UH, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE TO, UH, CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MOWING CONTRACT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPE FOR HIGHWAYS THROUGH THE CHOICE PARTNERS CONTRACT 20 SLASH 0 3 0

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I I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HANYA.

SECOND.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BLANCHARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM FIVE IS APPROVED THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANT, UH, PERRY POWER PARRA, UH, AND COMPANY LLC, UH, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR THE REHABILITATION OF, UH, STREET ASPHALT PAYMENT, UH, CURB DRAINAGE AND SERVICE CROSSINGS IN THE SLEEPY HOLLOW SUBDIVISION, WILLENBERG STREET AND B MR. MIA.

[5. Approve the selection of consultant Parra & Co, LLC and authorize the City Manager to negotiate a contract for the Rehabilitation of Street Asphalt Pavement, Curb Drainage, and Service Crossings in the Sleepy Hollow Subdivision, Willenburg Street, and Balsam Street. –Riazul Mia ]

GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

UM, THIS IS NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX IS THE BOND PROJECT, WHICH, UH, JAMES TOLD ME WE JUST GOT THE MONEY TODAY.

SO WE ARE BRINGING YOU THE CONSULTANT.

WE WENT OUT FOR RFQ FOR, UH, NUMBER FIVE.

WE HAD FOUR SUBMITTALS, BUT PARA AND COMPANY, THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE IN, IN ASPHALT STREET.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING PARA AND COMPANY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS FOLKS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANT PARA AND COMPANY LLC AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR THE REHABILITATION OF STREET ASPHALT PAYMENT, CURB DRAINAGE AND SERVICE CROSSINGS IN THE SLEEPY HOLLOW SUBDIVISION, WILLENBERG STREET AND BALSAM STREET.

I HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH.

SECOND.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BLAKE BAKER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

WE'RE JUST SEEING CAPABILITIES.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[6. Approve the selection of consultant Baker & Lawson, Inc. and authorize the City Manager to negotiate a contract for the Rehabilitation of Street Pavement, drainage, and Utilities Improvement of Parkwood Terrace Subdivision. – Riazul Mia ]

UH, ITEM SIX.

UH, APPROVE THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANTS, BAKER AND LAWSON, INCORPORATED AND AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO NO NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT FOR REHABILITATION OF STREETS, PAYMENT, DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES IMPROVEMENTS OF A PARKWAY TERRACE SUBDIVISION.

MR. MIA? SAME THING.

YES, MR. MAYOR? UM, THE SAME THING.

WE WENT OUT FOR RFQ, UH, WE RECEIVED SIX PROPOSAL AND, UH, BASED ON THE BAKER LAWSON'S EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH US ON THE STREET REHAB AND UTILITIES.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING BAKER LAWSON FOR THESE PROJECTS WHERE THEY COME IN ON PRICING.

UH, WE JUST SELECTING THE CONSULTANT THEN NEGOTI PRICE.

SO DON'T, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY NUMBERS.

ONCE WE NEGOTIATE, THEN WE WILL BRING BACK THE CONTRACT PRICING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

AND WE CAN DENY THAT IF 'CAUSE IT'S HARDWARE.

AND THEN WE WOULD'VE TO GO TO THE, HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THE SECOND RATED FIRM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ITEM SIX.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF CONSULTANT BAKER AND LAWSON INCORPORATED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT, THE REHABILITATION OF STREET PAVEMENT DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES IMPROVEMENT OF PARKWOOD TERRACE SUBDIVISION.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, SETH.

I'LL SECOND AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BROADUS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON I HAVE SIX.

I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARKWOOD THERE SUBDIVISION, WHAT AREA IS THAT? THAT IS MOSS CHESTNUT.

PALM PALM.

AND THERE'S, AND A PORTION OF SYCAMORE I THINK IS IN THAT WEST IS IN THAT WEST IS IN THAT FRONT ON WEST AREA.

SO, UH, JUST TO ASK A QUESTION THAT CLU HAD, UH, SOME WORK, UH, AUTHORIZED THROUGH SOME FUND, SOME TYPE OF GRANT FUNDING THAT, UH, WAS GONNA HELP WITH THAT AREA.

IS IS THAT, THAT STILL WORKS WITH THAT OR IT'S NOT, UH, SOME DRAINAGE PROJECT THAT WAS A FLOODING PROBLEM, RIGHT? RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS, THIS IS ALL, THIS PROJECT IS PART OF THE BIG $40 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S ON OUR SIDE OF THE, OF THE STREET.

I MEAN IT'S EVENTUALLY GONNA FEED INTO WHAT KLUT IS DOING ON THEIR SIDE.

THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S, THAT THING IS STILL GOING.

CLU IS CLUE IS RUNNING UP THE SAME ISSUES WE'RE RUNNING UP AS HIS COST HAVE GONE UP.

SO THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH, WITH THE GRANT THAT THEY'VE GOT.

SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT RIGHT NOW.

AND MR. MAYOR, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA.

THE CONSULTANT WE HIRE, WE, WE ARE SUBMITTING A DRAINAGE GRANT ABOUT $10 MILLION FOR THE, SO WE CAN DO THE WHOLE PROJECT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.

AFTER RHE AND STAFF TALKED TO THE CONSULTANT, UH, CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, WELL THAT WOULD DELAY ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR A YEAR, WHICH THEN COSTS ARE STILL CLIMBING.

THIS PROJECT IS 12.1.

RIGHT NOW OUR ESTIMATE IS RUNNING AROUND 17.

UM, AND HALF OF THAT COST IS DRAINAGE.

DRAINAGE.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UM, TO START THE RE WE HAD AN OPTION TO SUBMIT, WELL WE ARE SUBMITTING FOR THE GRANT WE WERE IN INITIALLY WE THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, PUTTING IN ENGINEERING AS WELL.

BUT AFTER TALKING

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UH, WE REALLY WOULDN'T SAVE ANY MONEY.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO BRING THE ENGINEER ON NOW AND THEN SUBMIT THE, FOR THE GRANT FOR ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND, AND DRAINAGE AND STUFF.

SO THEN WE WOULDN'T REALLY LOSE ANY TIME.

THERE'S STILL, WE MAY NOT GET A GRANT, BUT THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TRY AND WE'VE ALREADY HAVE, UM, GRANT FUNDING IN THE AREA THROUGH OUR MID MOD, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING IN THE AREA.

UH, LET'S SEE.

I THINK WE'RE AT, WE GOT MOTIONS.

MOTIONS, SO WE NEED TO MOTION.

I NEED, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK

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YOU.

STAFF UPDATES.

I'LL LET, UH, MR. MIA, UM, UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, PROJECT.

UH, THIS IS, THAT'S HIS PROJECT.

UM, MR. MAYOR, WE, FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK, WE DID GET THE PROPOSAL FROM BOTH CONTRACTOR.

UM, SO WE ARE IN JANUARY 1ST MEETING, WE WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL TO SELECT ONE OF THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT TERM BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THE PRICE.

SO WE WILL JUST NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT TERM AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL TO AWARD THE CONTRACT WITH A $3.7 MILLION CONSTRUCTION AMOUNT.

AND SO, AND WE WE'RE CHECKING REFERENCES AND WE'VE ASKED FOR YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA BRING IT JANUARY 8TH AND WE'VE ASKED FOR PROJECTS AND WE, WE PROBABLY, WE'LL DEFINITELY GO SEE ONE OR TWO PROJECT THEY HAVE DONE.

WE'LL DEFINITELY INVITE COUNCIL.

AND, UH, JUST IN CASE, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IS WHEN YOU IDENTIFY PROJECTS YOU WANNA GO LOOK AT, JUST SEE IF ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO SEE.

YES, WE, WE WILL.

AND THE BOND ISSUE, UH, RE ALREADY STOLE MY THUNDER.

UH, JAMES GOT THE FUNDING, UH, THE FUNDING WAS WIRED TODAY FOR US WHEN THE, THE NEXT PHASE OF THE BOND ISSUE.

SO WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK.

UM, OKAY.

DID WE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, HERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY THAT WE'VE GOTTA BRING BACK? GUESS SECOND.

READING THE ORDINANCE, STOP SIGN, WE'LL MONITOR NO ACTION.

AND THEN SHERRY'S CHECKING OUT THE HOUSTON.

ALL RIGHT, NOW CONSTRUCTION UPDATES.

AND THEN IF WE, IF YOUR DATA ON YOUR TRAFFIC, IF YOUR DATA ON THE TRAFFIC COMES BACK, IS ANY SUBSTANTIAL, YOU'LL LET US KNOW.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BRING BACK?

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SAL'S NOT HERE.

OH, SAL'S ON VACATION.

HE'S VACATING HE VACATION.

WELL HE HAS TO OR HE'LL LOSE HIS VACATION NOW.

I CAN DO ONE THAT'S THE MAN WHO STILL GOT HIS FIRST DOLLAR, SO YES.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

HE'S, UH, I, I KIND OF EXPECTED HIM TO WALK THROUGH THE DOOR AT ANY MINUTE, BUT, UM, I CAN DO A CONSTRUCTION UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE, UM, THE ELEVATED WATER TOWERS.

WE HAVE, UH, VERIZON ON SITE.

THEIR CONTRACTORS ARE AT DUNBAR AND AT OAK DRIVE AND THEY ARE DOING ANTENNA UPGRADES.

SO THEIR INTENT IS TO BE FINISHED BY CHRISTMAS, BUT THEY GOT HERE FOUR DAYS LATER THAN WHAT THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE GONNA BE HERE.

SO THEY MAY BE BACK, YOU KNOW, THE WEEK AFTER NEW YEAR TO WRAP THAT UP.

BUT ABOUT EVERY THREE YEARS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WHENEVER THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY, THEY HAVE TO GET THE OLD ONES DOWN AND PUT THE NEW ONES UP.

SO IS THIS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU'LL SEE A CRANE OVER AT OAK DRIVE AND YOU'LL SEE ALL THE ANTENNAS LINED UP AROUND DUNBAR RIGHT NOW.

BUT DEB, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED? YES.

YEAH, WE DID.

THE ONLY COMMITMENT WE HAD BACK TO 'EM WAS THAT THEY HAD, BEFORE THEY COULD GO FORWARD, THEY HAD TO SHOW THE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT THE BUILD, THAT THE STRUCTURES WOULD HOLD.

AND WE RAISED THE PRICE, HUH? YES.

AND WE RAISED THE PRICE.

YOU RAISED THE PRICE, OKAY.

YOU DID.

YEAH, WE HEARD THAT.

WE JUST HAD STIPULATION.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY INPUT, YES.

TO RAISE THE PRICE.

OKAY, GREAT.

YOU DID GET, YOU DID GET AN INCREASE OUT OF THAT ON BOTH, BOTH SIDES.

SO, UM, DID THEY REPAIR ANY DAMAGES THEY DID TO THE TOWER? WE JUST GOT THROUGH PAINTING THEM, SO YEAH.

SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT INSPECTED BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WITH OUR INSPECTOR AND THEN AGAIN AFTER.

AFTER.

AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FIX ANY KIND OF DAMAGE THAT HE SEES.

SO I THINK WE'RE COVERED ON THAT.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

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FOR CONSTRUCTION.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON'S SLOW DOWN DURING CHRISTMAS, EVERYTHING, ALL THESE, YEP.

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ITEMS OF INTEREST? UH, MATT, YOU WANNA START IT OFF? MERRY CHRISTMAS, OTHER THAN YOUR LIMPING.

NO, NO, NO.

MERRY CHRISTMAS BENET.

UH, JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE OUTDOOR POOL LOOKS GREAT, SO THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT FINALLY DONE.

IT'S NICE.

UM, RESTARTS ALSO THAT, UH, WALK SIGNALS AT 2004 ON LAKE ROAD DIDN'T LAST VERY LONG, SO I NOTICED THEY GOT BULLDOZED OVER AGAIN.

WHICH ONES? UH, THE ONE THEY JUST FIXED.

OH YEAH.

WELL THAT'S BEEN, IT'S IT, IT IT'S LASTED THE LONGEST.

IT LASTS ABOUT A YEAR.

WHEN THEY PUT, PUT SOME SIGNAGE UP.

BUT YEAH, IF THEY WOULD JUST GO BACK TO THE DESIGN THAT WE HAD BEFORE IT WASN'T.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THEIR DESIGN.

THE CITY HAD A DIFFERENT DESIGN AND OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYBODY, YOU HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

BE SAFE OUR TIME.

SO MR. BLANCHARD, Y'ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.

YEP.

UM, KEEP LAKE JACKSON BEAUTIFUL.

WE'VE STILL GOT BOXES OUT.

UH, I KNOW IT'S CITY HALL AT ALTUS, THE LIBRARY, THERE'S SEVERAL AROUND TOWN.

BRING ALL YOUR BROKEN CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, UH, OR THE ONES YOU JUST DON'T WANNA UNTANGLE AND DROP 'EM OFF.

WE ARE RECYCLING AND, UH, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY.

MR. BAKER.

HI, EVERYBODY.

JUST BE SAFE AND DOING THE HOLIDAYS AND SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.

JUST A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.

UH, THE SANUR, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT SINCE WE CHANGED IT, UH, HOW WELL IT'S GONNA WORK AND STUFF.

AND, UH, EVERYTHING I'VE GOTTEN IS POSITIVE ON IT.

UH, I MEAN, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A NAYSAYER AND STUFF AND SAYING WHETHER THEY DIDN'T COME DOWN MY STREET, BUT THE BIGGEST NAYSAYERS WERE THE ONES THAT SAID IT'S JUST TOO NOISY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE RESPONDED BACK TO 'EM ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAID, IT'S ONLY ONE AFTERNOON, A DAY, A YEAR.

SO, AND HOW MUCH THEIR KIDS ENJOYED IT.

AND THE KIDS ENJOYED IT AND STUFF.

I THINK THE ONES THAT THEY ENJOY THE MOST, UH, IS THE PD AND THE OLD FIRETRUCK.

I MEAN, THE, THE HISTORICAL FIRETRUCK ALWAYS IS, IS A BIG GATHERER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, AGAIN, GREAT THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MOST OF THAT'S DONE BY VOLUNTEER FIREMEN AND STUFF.

AND, UH, I WAS TALKING TO THEM, UH, EARLIER, WELL, IT WAS AROUND THE FESTIVAL LIGHTS.

THEY WERE SAYING THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ON DOING IT BECAUSE THE VALUE THEY SEE IT, IT'S A GREAT PROMOTIONAL THING FOR THEM.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

SO I'M, I'M GLAD Y'ALL ARE WORKING WITH 'EM.

Y'ALL ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THAT, UH, WHERE IT'S MANAGEABLE.

THE OTHER THING JUST A BIT OF FUN WAS, IS, UH, UH, THIS, UH, PAST, UH, SATURDAY, I WAS ABLE TO, UH, GUEST PERFORM WITH THE VERIZON'S PORT SYMPATHY, SYMPATHY SYMPHONY.

AND, UH, I DIDN'T, UH, IT WAS ALL BY, WE DID DONATIONS.

UH, IT WAS A FUNDRAISER AND WE FUND, WE RAISED, UH, BETWEEN THE THREE MAYORS, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE UP TO, IT WAS JUST UNDER $6,000 THAT WENT TO THE, UH, TO THEIR EFFORTS.

AND THEN, UH, THEY SOLD OVER 400 TICKETS FOR THE PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PERFORMANCE THEY'VE HAD, UH, SINCE, UH, THE PANDEMIC.

SO THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

UM, I DID THE PART ON SLEIGH RIDE WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A WHIP.

I CAN DO A WHIP, I CAN DO A WHIP VERY WELL, BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET ME DO A WHIP BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THE STAGE.

SO I HAD A CLACKER, SO I DID THAT.

SO THAT WAS, AND WHAT I TOLD 'EM SAID, THAT'S THE TOUGH PART ABOUT THAT IS IS THAT'S, THAT'S SEVEN NOTES THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, AND IF IT IS DONE RIGHT OR WRONG.

AND SO I, I HAD, UH, MR. CASEY, THE, UH, ACT ACTUAL CONDUCTOR, I SAID, YOU'RE GONNA STAND BY ME AND YOU'RE GONNA ELBOW ME TO MAKE SURE I GET IT THE RIGHT TIME.

SO WE DID IT.

IT WAS GOOD.

WE HAD, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

WE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH IT AND STUFF.

SO, UH, ANYBODY THAT DONATED, UH, IN MY NAME, I GREATLY APPRECIATED IT.

OR ANYBODY THAT DONATED, UH, FOR THE SIM SOMETHING, UH, THAT'S, UH, THANK YOU, UH, MODESTO STAFF.

ANYTHING.

I, I DON'T THINK I FORGOT TO SAY PD BANQUET WAS AWESOME.

A LOT OF US WERE THERE AND, UH, IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT.

AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE INVITE.

YEP.

AGREE.

AND LET MY, OUR, OUR KIDS PICK THE NAMES.

THAT'S THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE .

I ENJOY.

I LOVE, WE DO HAVE, UM, IF YOU DO WANNA BRING ANY OF THE KIDS BY ON FRIDAY, TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE, UH, SANTA CLAUS HERE AT, UH, CITY HALL.

11.

WHAT TIME AGAIN? NINE TILL 11.

THERE'LL BE A POST GOING OUT AT SIX O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, TOMORROW MORNING.

AND IT'S ON THE WEBSITE NOW.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UH, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY.

BE SAFE.

NEXT MEETING IS JANUARY 8TH.