Feb 20, 2024 City Council

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[Call to Order]

WELCOME EVERYONE FOR OUR UH, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024 REGULAR SESSION OF LAKE JACKSON, UH, CITY COUNCIL.

UH, IT'S AT BEGINNING AT 6:30 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.

IF YOU PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US.

UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.

I PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE THROUGH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DUE TO FOR WHAT WE STAND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR, TEXAS FLAG FLAG THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE.

YOU JOIN ME IN, UH, INVOCATION, UH, HEAVENLY FOLLOWED IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON EACH OF US.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS, SERVICEMEN, AND WOMEN AND EMPLOYEES.

WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THEM SAFE IN THEIR DAILY WORK.

FATHER, PLEASE GIVE THIS COUNCIL THE WISDOM, GUIDANCE, AND COURAGE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOUR NAME, WE OFFER UP THIS PRAYER.

THANK YOU.

AMEN.

AMEN.

ALRIGHT, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS VISITORS' COMMENTS.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE CITIZENS CAN, UH, SPEAK TO COUNCIL ABOUT AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A VISITOR'S COMMENT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, NEXT ITEM IS DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UH, THIS IS WHERE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CLIENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF COUNSEL THAT NEEDS TO DECLARE A CONFLICT? ALL RIGHT.

NOT HEARING ANY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE A LONG, UH, AGENDA HERE.

UH, FIRST ITEM IS APPROVED MINUTES FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024.

UH, ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARDS AND COMMISSION MINUTES FOR PLANNERS AND FOR TRAFFIC.

ITEM THREE IS APPROVE.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 2 8 2 AMENDING CHAPTER 46, FLOODS OF CITY LAKE JACKSON.

CODE OF ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY MANAGER'S DESIGNEE AS A FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR.

SECOND READING IM FOUR IS APPROVED.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 4 3, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A, UH, STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM GRANT FOR $58,558 FOR TWO MOBILE LIVE FEED REMOTE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, UH, SCOUT TRAILERS.

UH, ITEM FIVE IS APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 4 4 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM GRANT FOR $54,612 FOR A SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAM SHIELD AND BALLISTICS, UH, PROTECTION SMALL ARMS AGAINST SMALL ARMS. UH, ITEM SIX IS APPROVED.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 4 5, RENEWING THE INTERLOCAL CORPORATION AGREEMENT, UH, FOR FAILURE TO APPEAR PROGRAM.

AND NUMBER SEVEN IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 4 7, ACCEPTING A 25,000 PLEDGE FROM DOW CHEMICAL AND AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023.

2024 BUDGET TO REPAIR ASPHALT LANES ON MEDICAL DRIVE.

ITEM EIGHT, AWARD BID NUMBER 2 2 1 1 0 0 5 TO SCOTT AND COMPANY DBA, UH, SOUTHERN OAKS SERVICES FOR YARD REPAIR SERVICES FOR GROUND PREPARATION.

AND ITEM NINE IS AWARD BID NUMBER 2 2 0 1 0 0 1 FOR WILDERNESS GOLF COURSE.

GREEN AND BUNKER RENOVATIONS, UH, TO RGR GOLF SERVICES, LL IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED EIGHT $81,200.

THAT'S BUDGETED IN THE HALF CENTS SALES TAX FUND.

IS THERE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA.

UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER ITEM, UH, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, AND NINE AS PRESENTED SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN HANYA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE, UH, TO FIRST AGENDA ITEM NOW IS

[4. Approve Resolution No. 943 authorizing the City Manager to submit a State Homeland Security Program (SHSP) grant for $58,558 for two Mobile Live Feed Remote Video Surveillance Scout Trailers. – Bryan Sidebottom]

AND SO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN

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SO I KIND OF GOT A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TODAY, BUT I JUST THINK FOR, UH, PURPOSES OF PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THIS IS, WHAT IT'S USED FOR, HOW THE GRANT WORKS A LITTLE BIT, I THINK JUST, UH, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

I CAN ASK, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, SIDE BOTTOM TO COME UP AND HE CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE, UM, THE GRANT, THE GRANT SUBMITTAL AND, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, REQUEST FOR FUNDING.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, GRANT IS FOR TERRORISM BASED NEXUS IS BASICALLY TO, UH, PROTECT SOFT TARGETS AND CROWDED PLACES, UH, SUCH AS THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS OR CONCERT ON APPLAUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE HAVE CROWDS AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MONITOR FOR SOME TYPE OF, UH, NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY.

THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE OFFICERS LIVES AND PUBLIC LIVES BY MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA SO WE CAN RESPOND BETTER AND BE BETTER PREPARED.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID HAVE TWO OF THESE THAT I BORROWED FROM, UH, BRADFORD INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE PLACED DURING THIS PAST FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL NOTICED THEM.

UH, BASICALLY THEY WERE IN DISPATCH.

DISPATCH WAS ABLE TO MONITOR, SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

UH, IF ANYTHING, UH, HAPPENED, THEY COULD GIVE FIRST RESPONDERS EYES ON THE GROUND RIGHT AWAY TO TELL THEM WHERE THE ACTIVITY IS OR WAS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR, TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THIS RIGHT HERE, AS YOU'RE SEEING HERE, IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THESE ARE THE TWO, THE NEW ONES THAT BRAZOSPORT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT RECEIVED.

AND IF YOU WOULD, UH, SEE TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE ALL THOSE BIG, UH, UH, BUNDLES THERE.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, SOME TYPE OF CABLES FOR IT.

AND THEY PLACED THEM OVER THERE IN FREEPORT TO MONITOR TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE WOULDN'T STEAL THOSE.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SOLAR PANELED AND, UH, THE MASS IS 21 FEET TALL.

IT HAS CAMERAS ON TOP, UH, TO, SO THEY CAN REMOTELY LOOK IN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THAT'S THE IDEA IS, IS AGAIN, PROTECT SOFT TARGETS AND CROWDED PLACES.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TWO OF THOSE.

THE GOAL IS TO GET TWO.

YES, SIR.

AND EVERYTHING GO THROUGH DISPATCH.

WELL, IT CAN BE WHO MONITORED, WHY, WHY EVERYTHING'S GOING ON.

WELL, THE REASON WHY WE USE DISPATCH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND SO BASICALLY THIS CAMERA SYSTEM CAN OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND IT ALSO RECORDS THE, THE INFORMATION.

SO LET'S JUST SAY, UH, DURING THE FESTIVAL LIGHTS, WE DID HAVE SOME CAR BURGLARIES.

LET'S JUST SAY WE PLACED ONE OF THESE IN AN AREA LIKE THAT.

UH, IT COULD DO TWO THINGS.

ONE, IT COULD BE A DETERRENT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE COULD SEE IT IN THE AREA.

JUST LIKE AT LOWE'S WHERE YOU GO THERE, THEY HAVE ONE AT LOWE'S.

WELL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY, SO THEY BROKE INTO A VEHICLE AND WE WEREN'T THERE TO CATCH IT? 'CAUSE WE'RE DOING ROTATIONS.

UH, THIS CAMERA SYSTEM MIGHT HAVE CAUGHT IT AND WE COULD ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD THAT INFORMATION AT A LATER DATE AND USE IT AS EVIDENCE IN A COURT OF LAW TO PROSECUTE A CRIMINAL.

OR AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF UH, TERRORISTS TRIED TO DO SOME TYPE OF ACTIVITY, HOPEFULLY WE WOULD GIVE US THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE TO WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO SAVE MORE LIVES.

ALL ABOUT SAVING LIVES.

WHAT'S THE RANGE ON THIS? UH, WELL, BASICALLY THOSE TWO CAMERAS UP THERE, THEY CAN ZOOM IN PRETTY GOOD.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I'M NOT REALLY SURE EXACTLY THE ACTUAL DISTANCE THEY CAN GO, UH, BUT THEY CAN ZOOM IN WELL, TO ACTUALLY GET LICENSE PLATES, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR, FOR US IF WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH A SUSPECT.

WHAT ABOUT THE LIVE STREAM? THE LIVE STREAM, UH, IT'S LIVE STREAM.

UH, WHENEVER WE SIGN IN, WE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE A, AN ACCOUNT TO SOMEONE AND THEY CAN USE THEIR LAPTOP, CELL PHONE OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS TO ACTUALLY CONTROL.

SO THE OVER CELL IS OVER THE CELL SYSTEM? YES, SIR.

NOT WIFI SIM CARDS.

YES, SIR.

IT'S GOT SIM CARDS AND YOU PAY A MONTHLY SERVICE TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

AND OF COURSE, JUST LIKE WITH THE OTHER, UH, ELECTRONIC DEVICE, THE MORE YOU USE IT, THE MORE YOU PAY.

YEAH.

UH, BUT ULTIMATELY, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM WOULD HELP US, UH, DETER CRIME AND, AND SAVE LIVES.

OKAY.

SO INSTEAD OF DISPATCH, UH, YOU COULD VIEW THIS FROM EOC OFFICE IN ANY WAY.

YES.

EVEN IN THE FIELD, YOU COULD, THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER GREAT POINT, MAYOR.

WE COULD USE THIS.

LET'S JUST SAY WE HAVE A POD DISTRIBUTION POINT, RIGHT? AND WE WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING.

WE COULD LITERALLY PUT ONE OF THOSE THERE.

UH, AND WATCH THE PROGRESS OF THE DISTRIBUTION SITE FROM THE EOC.

OR LET'S JUST SAY, UH, YOU WEREN'T FEELING WELL, UH, COUNCILPERSON, WE COULD GIVE YOU THE LINK AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FROM HOME WITHOUT COMING IN IF NECESSARY.

IT HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES THAT PEOPLE, WE DON'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT IT CAN DO.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN SETH WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE, THE PROCESS, UH, FOR THE GRANTS AND STUFF.

SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT YOU HAD TO DO THERE? THIS IS HCOC, I MEAN HCAC GRANT.

SO YES, BASICALLY WE HAD, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WE HAD TO MEET AND WE HAD TO PROVE THAT WE MET THE HOMELAND SECURITY TERRORIST NEXUS.

WE HAD TO PROVE THAT THE POINT WAS, IT'S MAINLY GONNA BE USED FOR SOFT TARGETS AND CROWDED PLACES AND PROTECTION OF SOCIETY.

AND SO WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID ALL THIS DIFFERENT CRITERIA WHERE

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UH, WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO CERTAIN TYPES OF, OF REPORTING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE MAKE SURE WE MET ALL THAT CRITERIA.

AND THEN, UH, CITY MANAGER HAD TO VERIFY THAT THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION ON THE ACTUAL GRANT.

WE HAD TO INITIALLY DO A, UH, WE HAD TO GO TO A WORKSHOP, MONITOR THE WORKSHOP.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST REQUIREMENTS.

THEN WE HAD TO WRITE A, A PAPER APPLICATION AND SUBMIT IT BY A CERTAIN DEADLINE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAD TO GO INTO GRATS AND ACTUALLY WRITE THE PHYSICAL ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THE GRANT BY ANOTHER CERTAIN DEADLINE.

AND WE DID ALL THOSE THINGS.

THEN ANOTHER ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ASKED FOR, UH, WHICH THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT WAS THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH WE'RE BRINGING FOR YOU TODAY BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL IS ON BOARD.

THAT WE'RE NOT ROGUE DOING THIS ON OUR OWN.

THAT ACTUALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS BEHIND US.

AND SO HERE'S THE THING, UH, THIS IS A 100% FUNDED GRANT.

THERE'S NO MATCH FUNDS FOR THE CITY AND THERE'S SHARING INVOLVED.

YES.

ACTUALLY, THE WAY IT WORKS IS BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF THE REGION, THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE, WE'RE PART OF THE HOUSTON REGION IN WHICH CONSISTS OF FIVE MAJOR COUNTIES AND ALL THOSE, THE HGCS 32 COUNTIES, I BELIEVE 32 OR 33.

AND SO ANYONE IN OUR AREA WHO ACTUALLY HAD A NEED, WE WOULD LOAN THIS TO THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE MARDI GRAS, OR MAYBE THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON NRG OR LIKE WE BROUGHT, UH, BSDS WE COULD SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.

'CAUSE ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS CAPABILITY AROUND THE, OUR AREA.

THAT'S WHY IT'S A REGIONAL RESOURCE.

SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET IT, BUT IF WE WEREN'T USING IT, WE COULD LOAN IT TO ANOTHER DIFFERENT CITY OR JURISDICTION THAT WAS IN NEED OF IT.

COUNCILMAN BAKER, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? UH, SO LIKE ON WEEKENDS WE CAN USE IT DOWNTOWN IN A DOWNTOWN AREA OR, SURE.

I MEAN, IT'S OURS, UH, 24 7.

SO IF THERE IS A NEED, LET'S JUST SAY YOU WANTED TO PUT IT DOWNTOWN.

UH, LET'S JUST SAY THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION AREA GOING ON AND YOU WANTED TO MONITOR THAT.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD USE IT FOR ANYTHING WE NEED, BUT THE, THE PREMISE IS TO USE IT FOR MAJOR, LIKE CROWDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR THAT PURPOSE, WE CAN REPURPOSE IT FOR WHATEVER THE NEED IS AS LONG AS IT'S PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, UH, CHIEF THAT, UH, THE, YOU CAN PAY FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

SO IS THERE A SUBSCRIPTION FEE FOR THIS? UH, WELL, WITH, WITH THE GRANT, IT PAYS FOR THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

IT'S OUTRIGHT PAID FOR.

UH, THE COST IS FOR THE SIM CARD SERVICE, WHICH IS THE, THE FEEDING TRANSMISSION OF THE ELECTRONIC, UH, VIDEO.

SO BASICALLY THE SYSTEM ON BOARD ACTUALLY RECORDS IT INSIDE.

UH, BUT IF WE WANT TO MONITOR IT AND DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF FROM A, A LOCATION, THAT'S WHERE THE SIM CARD COMES IN.

AND THE MORE YOU USE IT, THE MORE YOU PAY.

JUST LIKE WITH REGULAR CELL PHONE, WHATEVER PLAN YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE DATA PLAN, WHATEVER PLAN YOU HAVE DETERMINES HOW MUCH YOU PAY.

UH, NOW WITH THE INITIAL PURCHASE, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE, BUT YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WITHOUT ANY INCREASED COST.

UH, BUT IF YOU GO PAST THAT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA COST YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO MAYBE YOU, IF YOU'RE USING IT QUITE A BIT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ENHANCE YOUR PLAN SO YOU'RE NOT PAYING EXTRA.

SO, AND STUFF YOU STORE THAT'S BEEN STORED ON THERE.

HOW LONG DO IT STAY ON? IT STAYS ON THE SYSTEM 30 DAYS.

UH, SO BASICALLY, UH, IF YOU PUT IT OUT WHEREVER IT MAY BE, AND AS YOU KNOW, SOME CRIMES AREN'T REPORTED FOR A WEEK MAYBE.

YES.

AND SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A CRIME REPORTED, WELL, IF YOU HAVE THAT RECORDING, YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.

JUST LIKE WITH ANY SURVEILLANCE, LIKE AT WALMART OR WHEREVER THE CASE MAY BE, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT VIDEO AND THEN CAPTURE IT, SAVE IT, AND PUT IT INTO EVIDENCE.

AND, UH, AGAIN, TO GO BACK TO THE PROCESS FOR THE, THE GRANT IS, IS THEY SUBMIT THE GRANT AND IT GOES TO HVAC.

I'M ON THE BOARD.

AND, UH, ACTUALLY WE MET ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING.

UH, THAT WAS EIGHT O'CLOCK MORNING MEETING IN HOUSTON.

AND THAT WAS FUN DRIVING THROUGH THE FOG.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THE, UH, UH, THESE TWO, UH, ITEMS HERE WE LOOKED AT, THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE PRE-APPROVAL.

SO THEY, IT'S EVALUATED BY A SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN IT COMES TO, UH, A COMMITTEE THAT I LEAD THAT MAKES RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD.

AND RIGHT NOW, THESE TWO PROJECTS, THERE'S, UH, THE GOVERNOR HASN'T SET THE, THE FUNDING LEVEL YET, BUT THEY WENT WITH THE LAST YEAR FUNDING LEVEL, WHICH WAS $1.5 MILLION.

AND THERE WAS TWO, $2.5 MILLION OR SO OF PROJECTS THAT, OR ITEMS LIKE THIS THAT WERE ON THE LIST.

AND OURS JUST IS BELOW THE 1.5.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA END UP GETTING 'EM OR NOT.

BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS, IS THAT, UH, THE STATE, ONCE THEY DEFINE THE LEVEL THAT THEY'RE GONNA FUND AT, THEY'LL ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE LIST AND EVEN MAKE DECISIONS OF MOVING ONE DOWN AND ONE UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO HOW GOOD OF A STORY AND A REASON THAT WE PUT INTO THE GRANT.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL.

WE WON'T GET 'EM,

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BUT RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING YOU ASKED ABOUT THE, THE, THE TIMEFRAME.

THIS, UH, SYSTEM ACTUALLY COMES WITH A THREE YEAR WARRANTY, BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY.

SO IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN AND WE HAPPEN TO GET THOSE, UH, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, WE COULD CONTACT THE COMPANY.

THEY COME DOWN, EITHER FIX IT, UH, ON SITE OR REMOTELY WORK ON IT.

SO THERE'S ALSO THAT OPTION.

SO IF WE DON'T GET THESE TWO, WE STILL CAN USE, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YES AND NO.

I MEAN, VERY GOOD POINT, COUNCILMAN.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO UNFORTUNATELY ABLE TO USE 'EM DURING FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, HOWEVER THEY USE THEM, ALL OF THEIR SPORTING EVENTS, RIGHT? THEY USE 'EM AT THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES AND ALL THE, ALL THOSE, UH, TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT THEY DO AS IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE PUTTING UP HERE FOR THEIR, THEIR, UH, FIBER OPTIC LINE.

UH, SO IF THEY'RE NOT USING, YES, WE CAN BORROW 'EM, BUT, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IF SOMETHING'S GOING ON THAT THEY, THEY TAKE FIRST PRIORITY.

AND I BELIEVE THEY ALSO BOUGHT THEIRS ON A GRANT.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT HELPS DEFER THE COST THAT, UH, WE CAN GET FOR SECURITY, YOU KNOW, FOR SECURITY OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO, APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TRANSPARENCY.

JUST, I THINK WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT SURVEILLANCE TYPE MACHINES, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN JUST WITH THE CITIZENS.

WELL, ABSOLUTELY.

OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE SOCIETY AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

UH, AND, AND THE POINT HERE IS, YES, YOU USE THE WORD SURVEILLANCE, BUT OUR GOAL AS YOU IF, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, THESE WERE OUT IN THE PUBLIC SPACES IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S VIEW.

IT HAD RED AND BLUE LIGHTS FLASHING OBVIOUS FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.

WE'RE NOT IMPOSING ON ANYONE'S FOURTH AMENDMENT.

WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, NOT VIOLATE IT.

I THINK LOWE'S HAS ACCLIMATED US ALREADY.

YES, MA'AM.

DON'T WE HAVE A SMALL SYSTEM LIKE THAT ALREADY SET UP? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SIR? AT THE PD THAT WE CAN, THAT IT CAN GO UP AND ZOOM HAVE, WELL, WE USED TO HAVE.

OKAY.

WE USED THAT.

WE USED TO HAVE IT WAS ON THE TOWER.

IT WAS THE TOWER CAMERA.

YES.

UH, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY NICE CAMERA.

UH, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? THE LIGHTNING HIT IT TWICE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THE LIGHTNING TOOK IT OUT THE FIRST TIME WE REPLACED IT, AND THEN LIGHTNING TOOK IT OUT AGAIN.

SO WE HAVEN'T REPLACED IT.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S OVER $5,000 TO, TO GET ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CAMERAS.

SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY LYING AROUND.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE EYE IN THE SKY.

YES.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.

YES, MA'AM.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE, UH, UH, ACTION ON THAT ITEM.

I MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SECOND.

ALL A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL.

LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. HAVE ITEM ONE, DISCUSS

[1. Discuss and consider a request from Liberty Auto Land, located at 640 Willow Dr., to allow customer parking in the city right of way. – Christofor Kennedy]

UH, YES.

ASK DAVID TO JUST GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SITUATION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE, UH, SERVICE STATION, WHICH IS LOCATED ON WILLOW DRIVE AND OLD ENGLETON ROAD TO ALLOW A PORTION OF THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY FOR PARKING AND FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS AND STORAGE OF VEHICLES PRIOR TO BEING SERVICED.

UH, THEY DO HAVE SPACE ON THEIR SITE THAT THEY CAN PARK.

THEY DO ALSO OWN AN ADJACENT LOT NEXT TO THAT, UH, WHICH THEY CAN'T USE FOR PARKING BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR, UH, RULES ARE SET OUT.

HOWEVER, THE PROPONENT IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON, ON THIS MATTER.

MILFORD, CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

GO.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE.

GOT THAT.

OH, IT'S ACTUALLY, SO THE COUNCIL'S BENEFIT.

I HAVE SOMETHING TO SPEAK ON THIS, UH, THIS PLACE USUALLY HAD A LOT OF, UH, CARS THAT WERE SET THERE FOR PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME WHILE BEING WORKED ON, I KNOW THE, THE SHORTAGE OF PARTS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO IT'S JUST MAKES IT LOOK VERY JUNKY.

PRESENTS LIKE A PRESENCE OF A JUNKYARD.

SO THERE, THERE LOT JUST DOESN'T MEET THE CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED RECENTLY WHERE IT HAS TO BE AN IMPROVED SURFACE OR WHY CAN'T THEY USE IT? NO, IN THIS SITUATION, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LINE THAT'S, THAT'S DRAWN UHHUH THERE.

AND THEY'RE PARKING OVER THAT LINE IN THE, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THAT AREA THERE.

THIS IS, I THINK THERE'S A PHOTO ALSO WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON FROM A STREET VIEW.

WOULD THAT BE THE PROPERTY LINE? AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, BUT THIS AREA HERE, THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS, I GUESS, WOULD YOU SAY IT'S ASPHALT OR SOMETHING THAT'S ON IT? OR PORTIONS OF IT? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BROKEN UP AND I DIDN'T GET THAT.

NOT IN GOOD REPAIR.

I DIDN'T, COULD I TRY AGAIN? SORRY.

THEY DO ALSO HAVE AN AREA RIGHT OVER HERE THAT THEY HAVE PUT GRAVEL DOWN

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BUT THIS IS ALSO A VACANT LOT HERE THAT IS OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S VACANT, WE DON'T HAVE PARKING AS A PRIMARY USE, BUT THEY HAVE ADDED GRAVEL, CRUSHED GRAVEL IN THIS AREA TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH OUR REGULATIONS.

NO, GO TO SLIDE 36.

PAGE 36.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONE MODESTO WANTED TO THERE YOU GO.

SO THERE'S THE STOP SIGN.

YEAH.

AND THIS IS, THIS AREA'S PARKED.

AND SO REALLY THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING, YOU KNOW, PAST THIS, PAST THIS AREA.

BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THIS GOT PAVED YEARS AGO, PROBABLY PRIOR TO THEM PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE TOLD THEM, I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE FORMALLY TOLD THEM NO, BUT IN THE DAVID'S LETTER IT SAID, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY STILL, UH, THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS THEM TO ASK FOR PERMISSION FROM COUNSEL.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO GO.

BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF YOU DO ALLOW THAT, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT COUNCIL HAS ALLOWED IN THE PAST OVER USE OF RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN TEMPORARY.

IT'S BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, THE GULF COAST OBER, UH, THE GULF COAST BIRDING TO PUT SIGNS UP DURING A SPECIAL EVENT OR SOMEONE TO USE DOWNTOWN PARKING FOR A CAR SHOW FOR THE WEEKEND OR FOR A TRICK OR TREAT.

IT'S NOT BEEN LONG TERM.

THE ONLY LONG TERM ONE HAS BEEN FOR A PERMIT FOR SIDEWALKS, FOR THE RESTAURANTS TO USE A PORTION OF, BUT AS AN ODD, YOU KNOW, STAGE.

SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE REQUEST THAT YOU HAD TWO WEEKS AGO FOR PUTTING SIGNAGE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IF YOU ALLOW THIS, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO START CONSIDERING USE OF, UH, OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR A MULTITUDE OF BUSINESSES FOR EVEN PAR MAYBE PARKING.

WHERE CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? IT'S THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE WHOLE PLOT RIGHT THERE.

THAT ONE.

SO THAT GRASSY AREA, GRASSY K NO.

YEAH, THE GRASSY K NO.

SO THE FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS OF BEING ON COUNCIL, I'M USING A POINTER.

BUT THIS WHOLE AREA RIGHT HERE, THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY.

YES, THAT IS, YES.

THAT IS SOMEBODY AND THEY CANNOT PARK ON IT BECAUSE THEY CAN PARK ON A WELL, SO YOU HAVE TO PARK ON AN APPROVED SURFACE.

SO, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE PARKING AS A, UM, IT'S TWO THINGS AS, AS AN OUTRIGHT USE FOR A LOT IS THE SECONDARY USE ASSOCIATED WITH A, A BUILDING.

SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER LOT AND, AND THEY, THEY CAN'T PARK ON IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PARKING AS A, A USE FOR PROPERTY.

OKAY.

IS THERE, IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH PLANNING OR, YES, AND WE'VE TOLD 'EM THAT, THAT OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT THEY COULD REPLANT IT AND JOIN BOTH LOTS.

OKAY.

AND THEN PAVE THE GRASS AREA AND THEN THEY COULD, THEY COULD USE THAT.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE, WE, THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE, I HATE TO SPEAK FOR THEM, IS THAT THEY MAY ONE IN THE FUTURE SELL THAT.

SO THEY, I, UM, BUT THEY COULD REPLANT IT AND MAKE IT ONE LOT AND THEN PAVE THAT AREA.

AND THIS, THIS AREA HERE IS AN IMPROVED SURFACE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO THEY COULD BE PARKING THERE.

YEAH.

AND WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH, UH, DAIRY BAR.

DAIRY BAR HAS A VACANT LOT.

THEY HAD PUT A SIGN UP, UM, SAME FOR OVERFILL PARKING.

WE TOLD 'EM THAT THEY COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SEPARATE PLANTED LOT.

HAD THEY JOINED IT AND REMOVED A LINE ON PAPER TO THE PLANNING, UH, THEN THEY COULD, THEY COULD DO THAT IF IT WAS PAVED.

SO, BUT BY LINE, THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.

THEY HAVE AN AVENUE TO FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING YES.

BEYOND THE E THE EASEMENT.

YES.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? ANYBODY WANNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT OR JUST, UH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.

IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT.

NO, AT THE PRISON MOMENT, THEY'VE, THE, UM, IN THE LETTER THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY CAN'T USE IT UNLESS THEY HAVE PERMISSION ON THERE.

SO IF THEY DO IT AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO WRITE HIM A CITATION.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL LEAVE THINGS AS IS JUST LIKE YOU STATED THERE.

THAT DO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. Submission and approval of the Racial Profiling Report from the Lake Jackson Police Department as required by State Law. - Paul Kibodeaux]

PLEA POLICE DEPARTMENT AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW CHIEF? YES, SIR.

YES.

AS REQUIRED BY THE CCP EVERY YEAR, UH, SINCE ABOUT 2001, UH, THAT WE BRING OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT, UH, WHICH IS MANDATED, OF COURSE.

UH, THE REPORT, UH, GENERALLY IS, UH, FOR ALL SELF-INITIATED STOPS THAT THE OFFICERS FILL OUT, UH, CERTAIN INFORMATION THAT'S DESIGNATED BY THE STATE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE STOP, UH, RACE OF THE PERSON? DID YOU KNOW BEFORE YOU MADE THE STOP? UM, DID YOU SEARCH,

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BUT I AM GOING TO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT I JUST NOTICED TODAY IN THE FULL REPORT, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, AND IT'S SOMETHING, UM, REALLY TO BE PROUD OF, IS THAT THE LAST PAGE OF THE FULL REPORT, THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS OF RACIAL PROFILING RECEIVED DURING THIS YEAR, UH, IT FOR SOME REASON CAME UP BLANK, BUT THE ANSWER IS ZERO.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS THIS YEAR.

SO YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT OR THE DATA IN THE REPORT ITSELF.

I'M WELCOME TO ADDRESS THOSE.

I JUST, UH, I, I GIVE THIS QUESTION EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

IT'S, UH, ON THE, UH, REASON FOR STOP AND IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, CATEGORY FOUR I GUESS, AND IT SAYS FOUR TWO IS PREEXISTING, ACKNOWLEDGE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT FOR REASON FOR STOP.

UH, AS FAR AS THE RACE OF THE PERSON? NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S THE, YEAH, IT'S ITEM, IT'S NUMBER FOUR.

UH, REASON FOR STOP VIOLATION OF LAW, PREEXISTING KNOWLEDGE.

IS THAT THE ONE YOU HAD QUESTION? YEAH.

PREEXISTING.

GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF PREEXISTING KNOWLEDGE.

SO, UM, OF COURSE THE FIRST VIOLATION OF LAW IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR TRAFFIC LAWS.

THE PREEXISTING KNOWLEDGE WOULD BE, UM, CAN'T EVEN COME UP WITH ONE.

THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, YOU HAD A WARRANT.

IF YOU HAD A WARRANT ON THE INDIVIDUAL, WOULD THAT FALL IN THAT CATEGORY? YES.

BUT THEN THAT IS MORE LIKE IF YOU CALL DISPATCH AND DISPATCH DISPATCHES YOU TO A CALL WHERE, HEY, THERE'S A PERSON DRIVING THIS KIND OF CAR DRIVING DOWN THE STREET.

YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS, UNLESS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW.

RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE AND I JUST CANNOT, OKAY.

RECALL THERE WAS NINE OF 'EM OUT OF 12,201.

RIGHT.

AND I JUST CAN'T THINK OF, UH, ONE AT THIS TIME.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

CAN YOU RE UH, STATE THE QUESTION, MAKE, MAKE SURE HERE, JUST AN EXAMPLE, WHAT A PREEXISTING KNOWLEDGE STOP WOULD BE FOR TRAFFIC? YES.

YOU COULD HAVE A WARRANT OF SOMEONE OR, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC SUSPECT VEHICLE IN A CRIME THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED, RIGHT? THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER REASON.

OKAY.

LIKE, LET'S JUST SAY YOU HAD A BANK ROBBERY AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A WHITE MALE DRIVING A RED LEXUS.

RIGHT THERE, THERE'S YOUR INFORMATION.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO, AND I ALWAYS COMPARE ACROSS YEARS, AND I DO HAVE TWO PREVIOUS YEARS NUMBERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE AS WELL.

UH, THEY TEND TO END UP REMARKABLY SIMILAR, UH, ACROSS THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND DOING THE REPORTS.

UH, EVEN LAST YEAR THERE WAS A COUPLE THOUSAND MORE STOPS AFTER COVID, BUT STATISTICALLY THE NUMBERS STILL COME OUT THE SAME.

YEAH.

CHIEF, IS THERE EVER ANYTHING THAT THE STATE LOOKS FOR THAT TRIGGERS SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE, OH, THERE IS A PROBLEM, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, UH, THE STATE THEMSELVES? NO, BUT THEY DO PUT OUT A, COMPILE A COMPILATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT REPORTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO THEM.

AND YOU CAN GO ON THEIR SITE AND LOOK AT THAT.

WE REPORT OURS THROUGH TCLS.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, BUT INDIVIDUAL ISSUES SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THIS LEVEL.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE BRING THEM TO YOU.

UH, WE ALSO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, I'VE, I'VE EVEN THIS YEAR LOOKED AT HUMBLES.

UH, THERE WAS SOME ATTENTION GIVEN TO THAT ONE RECENTLY.

UH, NOT THAT THERE WAS THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE, BUT ON ONE COMPLAINT.

SO THEY'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE THEY'LL ACTUALLY, UM, SEND THEIR REPORT TO AN OUTSIDE AGENCY THAT ACTUALLY, UH, REVIEWS THEIR DATA FOR 'EM.

SOMETIMES YOUR OWN DATA SITTING RIGHT UNDERNEATH YOUR NOSE CAN BE KIND OF DIFFICULT, RIGHT? UM, BUT IN OUR CASE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARY.

UH, WHAT I SEE HERE IS YEAR, YEAR PRETTY CONSISTENT.

AND, UH, I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANY ISSUES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME GO LOOK FOR NINE NEEDLES BECAUSE I AM .

I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL

[3. Approve Resolution No. 946 amending the FY 23-24 budget to transfer savings of $1,200,000 from the 2023 Utility Operating and $1,200,000 from the 2023 General Operation funds to the Utility Projects Fund and General Projects Fund. - James Bryson]

UH, APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 9 4 6, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET TO TRANSFER SAVINGS OF $1.2 MILLION, UH, FROM THE 2023, UH, UTILITY OPERATION OP UTILITY OPERATING.

OPERATING.

OKAY.

AND 1.2, UH, MILLION FROM THE, UH, 2023 GENERAL OPERATING FUND TO, UH, UNI, UH, UTILITY PROJECT FUND AND GENERAL PROJECT FUND.

JAMES? YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, SO WE DO THIS, EXCUSE ME, WE DO

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THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2008.

AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE RECOGNIZE REVENUES, LESS EXPENDITURES, AND WE COME TO YOU WITH THOSE ACCESS FUNDS AND ASK YOU TO PUT THEM IN THE CIP OR THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR US, BOTH GENERAL FUND AND UTILITY.

UM, THESE ARE FOR NON-RECURRING EXPENDITURES THAT ARE TOO, TOO LARGE FOR TYPICAL OPERATING EXPENSES, BUT NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BE LIKE BOND PROJECTS.

SO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES WOULD SAY LIKE ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE FOR THE PD DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE STATION REMODEL, THE SCADA SYSTEM, PROJECTS LIKE THAT.

UM, THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE MOVED APPROXIMATELY 1.2.

SO WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT AS WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AS FAR AS THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING.

AND, UH, LET'S SEE, UM, THE SAVINGS FROM THE, ON THE INDU ON THE, UM, GENERAL FUND WE'RE FROM THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT DUE TO THE ABATEMENTS, UH, INTEREST EARNINGS AND PERMITTING FEES.

AND ON THE UTILITY SIDE IT WAS SEWER, UM, REVENUES, SANITATION, AND INTEREST.

AND SADLY, I WAS NOT A BOY SCOUT, BUT I DID COME PREPARED FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

NOW, IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE AS PRESENTED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN, SETH.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BROADUS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ITEM FOUR,

[4. Review the proposed Budget Calendar. – Modesto Mundo]

MODEST AUGUSTO MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL STAFF HAS MET.

AND WE'D LIKE TO, UH, RUN, YOU KNOW, A PRO PROPOSAL TO YOU ON THE BUDGET.

SOME, UM, BUDGET, UH, CHANGES, CHANGES TO THE BUDGET CALENDAR.

UH, THE FIRST ONE, AND I LIST THEM KIND OF THE IN IN THE ORDER OF, UH, OUR THOUGHTS OF, UH, OF PRIORITIES.

THE FIRST ONE WAS TO SEPARATE THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE.

THIS LAST ONE, WE HAD IT ON THE SAME NIGHT, RIGHT? AND IT JUST, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE DISCUSSED THE BUDGET FOR EIGHT WEEKS, AND THE PUBLIC CAN COME TO ANY OF THOSE, WE REALLY ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING THE MOST.

SO THAT'S WHEN THEY REALLY BECOME AWARE OF IT AND THEY COME THAT NIGHT.

BUT THE WAY WE'VE HAD THE CALENDAR SCRUNCHED UP, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WHEN THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE COMING AND TALKING TO YOU AND ASK YOU TO CONSIDER SOME ITEMS, YOU HAVE TO, WE'VE PUT THE TIME CLOCK ON YOU TO, TO ADOPT THE BUDGET THAT NIGHT.

AND IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU REALLY A CHANCE TO REACT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SEPARATE AT LEAST THOSE, THOSE TWO DATES.

IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL NOT A LONG TIME.

WE HAVE THE SEPARATION ON, BUT, UH, AT LEAST YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT FORCED TO HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION.

YOU KNOW, THAT NIGHT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE TRUTH OF IT IS WE'RE NOT FORCED.

WE CAN DEFER, YOU COULD DIVER IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT JUST, IT JUST, IT JUST MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, TOUGH.

AND SO WE THOUGHT IT JUST FORMALLY JUST SEPARATE THE NIGHTS.

UH, THE SECOND ONE, UM, IS MORE OF A, IT HELPS, IT COULD HELP STAFF THIS YEAR.

UH, UH, TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A PAIN IN THE REAR REALLY TO TRY TO, UH, HIT A MOVING TARGET.

EVALUATIONS CHANGED QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE QUITE A BIT.

WE WERE, WE, UM, FROM THE PRELIMINARY, BUT WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT THEY WERE.

AND SO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON TAX RATES, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO HIT A MOVING TARGET.

THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE 26TH DATE, UH, THE MORE ASSURED THAT WE ARE WHAT VALUATIONS ARE GONNA BE AND MAKING A TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION.

SO MY, RIGHT NOW MY THOUGHTS ARE IS TO HAND YOU MY PROPOSED BUDGET ON THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY, AND THEN HAVE OUR WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL ON THE FIRST MEETING OF AUGUST.

SO THE DAY THAT WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE CERTIFIED ROLE IS.

AND SO WHEN YOU ASK, UM, WHEN YOU ASK IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE OR SOMETHING, OR WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR, UH, AN INCREASE TO MOVE FROM FOUR TO, YOU KNOW, 3% TO 4% OR 5%, WE CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT COST OF IT VERSUS TRYING TO GUESS ON THERE BECAUSE WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE CERTIFIED ROLES ARE OF THE WORKSHOP.

UM, SO IT GIVES US A BETTER CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, GIVE YOU AN, YOU KNOW, A SOLID ANSWER.

WHAT IT DOES THOUGH, IT SHORTENS THE TIMELINE FOR YOU TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK THROUGH THE BUDGET.

BECAUSE THEN ONCE

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YOU GET THE BUDGET ON THE 15TH, BUT IT JUST PUSHES EVERYTHING BACK.

YOU GET TWO, TWO LESS WEEKS OF LOOKING AT THE BUDGET.

BUT YOU MAY GET, FOR US, WE START TALKING ABOUT BETTER NUMBERS.

SO WE WANTED, I'M, I REALLY AM JUST CURIOUS HOW ACCURATE THAT FINAL ASSESSMENT IS BECAUSE I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I JUST DID MY, OUR MEETING FROM LAST YEAR MM-HMM.

A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

SO, AND THEY SAID THEY STILL HAD A TON OF THEM TO DO.

SO I'M JUST, I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW ON US IT'S ACCURATE ON THE 26TH, IT'S FINAL, IT IS DONE.

THE NUMBER DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, CHANGE FOR, FOR, SO WHEN WE GET OUR CERTIFIED TAX ROLL, IT'S WHAT THE TAX RATE IS, IS BASED ON, IT CAN STILL CHANGE, BUT OUR, WE DON'T HAVE TO PLAY A GUESSING GAME ON, ON THE TAX RATE, UM, ON THE ASSESS ON THE VALUE.

AND WHEN WE START GUESSING, I GUESS THE FIRST TIME WE START GETTING NUMBERS IS END OF MAY.

IS THAT CORRECT, JAMES? APRIL, MAY.

APRIL, MAY.

IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S KIND OF A GUESSING GAME AND THEN WE KIND OF MOVE ALONG.

UM, YOU KNOW, MY FEAR THIS YEAR WAS, 'CAUSE THE VALUATIONS HAD CHANGED SO MUCH, I WAS EXPECTING A BIG DROP.

IT DIDN'T DROP THAT, IT DIDN'T DROP THAT MUCH.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S STILL A, IT'S STILL A GUESSING GAME.

UM, WE COULD HANDLE, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET ON THE FIRST, UM, AND THEN HAVE THE WORKSHOP ON, UM, ON THE FIRST MEETING OF AUGUST.

SO THEN WE ARE ABLE TO GET, WE KNOW WHAT THE, THE CERTIFIED VALUE.

BUT, UH, THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT IS JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A MORE SOLID NUMBER, BUT YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION TONIGHT.

I, WE JUST WANTED TO FLOAT THAT I IDEA PAST YOU, UH, AND SEE IF, UM, IF YOU WERE OPEN TO IT.

AND WHAT'S THE SITS? ALL THREE OF 'EM? YEP.

YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN WE SHOWED THE, THE CALENDAR ATTACHED AND WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE CHANGES ARE.

THE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, TONIGHT IS THE CIP WORKSHOP.

WE HAVE TWO OPEN DATES IN APRIL, THE 22ND OR THE 29TH, UM, OF WHAT IS THE PREFERENCE OF COUNSEL ON EITHER THOSE, UM, TWO MONTHS TONIGHT? TONIGHT, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE IF, UM, OR TOMORROW IF YOU COULD LOOK ON YOUR CALENDARS AND LET US KNOW WHICH DAYS PREFER BEFORE THE GROUP DOES THAT ACTIVITY DOESN'T RELATE AT ALL TO THE, THE DEADLINE ON THE 26TH? NO, BECAUSE ONE'S BEFORE, ONE'S AFTER IT'S NOT, WOULDN'T BE HELPFUL TO DO IT.

NO, NO.

UH, THE, THE, THE 26TH IS INTERNAL FOR STAFF.

THOSE ARE BOTH MONDAY, MONDAY NIGHTS.

YEAH, BOTH OF 'EM ARE MONDAY NIGHTS.

UM, AND WE JUST HAD, UM, TWO AVAILABLE TIMES THE 29TH.

MY WIFE IS ON A CRUISE, SO I'LL BE BY MYSELF.

SO YOU'RE FREE.

SO I CAN, I I CAN STAY ALL NIGHT LONG.

YOU CAN STAY ALL NIGHT.

SO WE DON'T WANT IT ON THE 29TH.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

SO E EITHER DATE'S GOOD FOR ME RIGHT NOW, SO 22ND, 22ND PREFERABLE.

29TH IS FINE.

ALRIGHT, SO WE GIVE UH, MODESTO THE FEEDBACK IF EITHER ONE.

OKAY.

SAME.

EITHER ONE, ONE AT NIGHT.

FINE.

AND THE 22ND, SIR.

29TH.

THE 29TH IS THE BEST DATE, MR. FLETCHER, NOT ME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO YOU CAN'T DO THE 22ND AT ALL? I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT EITHER, BUT OKAY.

EITHER ONE OF EM.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

29TH.

JUST, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE, THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, SEX FIELD.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU, UH, A HEADS UP.

WE HAVE HAD TO CLOSE THAT ACCESS OFF OF WILLOW DRIVE.

UH, THE, UM, OH, WAIT A SECOND.

WE'RE STILL ON ITEM FOUR.

OH, I'M SORRY MAYOR.

IT'S ALRIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE DONE WITH THAT THOUGH, AS FAR AS DISCUSSION? YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE'LL GO TO

[5. Staff Updates]

UH, UPDATES.

UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, CITY MANAGER ON TWO ITEMS HERE.

UH, THE FIRST ONE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, THE 26TH, UH, WE'RE MOVING IT TO THE CIVIC CENTER.

I THINK THEY'LL GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ELBOW ROOM, UH, THERE.

UM, AND WE'LL HAVE DINNER PROVIDED.

UM, LAURA MARIE, I'M SORRY.

DINNER WILL BE AT FOUR 30.

FOOD WILL BE THERE AT FOUR 30.

OKAY.

THE FOOD WILL BE THERE AT FOUR 30.

UH, THANK YOU SALLY.

AND THEN, UM, I'VE ASKED LAURA MARIE TO SEND OUT A BRIEF TWO QUESTION SURVEY.

SO, UM, I'LL, UH, SHE PREPARED THAT I'LL SEND THAT OUT, UH, IN THE MORNING.

UH, JUST TO ASK

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IT'S OPEN-END QUESTIONS.

JUST ANY BIG IDEAS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT FOR THE NEXT, UH, 10 YEARS PLUS AND OR, OR THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BIG WORRIES OR, UH, AREAS THAT WE NEED TO START WORKING ON AND ADDRESSING THAT ARE NOT IN THE, IN THE MASTER PLAN.

SO, UM, WE CAN GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO OUR FACILITATOR AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE ON, ON THE BOARD FOR EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER.

UM, NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.

THE OTHER ONE IS SUX FIELD.

UH, AGAIN, THE WILLOW DRIVE ACCESS TO SUX PARK.

UH, WE PURCHASED THAT IN 2010.

IT WAS A CAR WASH AND UM, WE THEN TORE IT DOWN, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T MAKE DRIVEWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

AND IT WAS ANTICIPATION AT THE TIME, BABE RUTH WAS REALLY USING, YOU KNOW, THE FIELDS.

BUT BABE RUTH IS NO LONGER, UH, AN EXISTENCE.

I THINK LITTLE LEAGUE USES IT FOR PRACTICES.

SO THAT BACK AXIS NOT BEING REALLY USED A LOT EXCEPT FOR US USING A, A STAFF FOR GARBAGE TRUCKS TO GO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A BREAK AND USE THE RESTROOM THERE.

AND OVER TIME THE PAVEMENT HAS JUST NOT HELD UP TO IT.

AND SO WE'VE CLOSED OFF THE ACCESS FOR NOW, BUT THE QUESTIONS COME UP WITH STAFF IS LIKE, NEXT YEAR AND THE BUDGET PROCESS, DO WE, UH, PUT, UH, ASK FOR MONEY TO REPAIR THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S NOT REALLY BEING USED? UM, OR DO WE APPROACH, DO WE NO LONGER NEED THAT PROPERTY? WOULD IT BE BETTER? YEAH.