* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. PLEDGE OFALLEGIANCE] [00:00:12] THANK YOU, MR. TYLER. [2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] DID YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? YES, SIR. ANY ISSUES? NO APPROVE. THEN VISITORS' COMMENTS IF ANYBODY IN HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA NOW, DUE THE TIME, ANYBODY THAT DOES COME UP SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. FIRST ITEM, [4. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN OF NEW TDECU BANKING FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF CENTER WAY AND AZALEA STREET IN THE LAKE JACKSON TOWN CENTER, LOT J1.] ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN, A NEW T-D-E-C-U BANKING FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF CENTER WAY CENTER IN AZALEA STREET IN THE LAKE JACKSON TOWN CENTER, LOT J ONE. UM, MY NAME IS JOHN HAYES. UH, I WORK WITH, UM, THE ALMA GROUP. WE HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED WITH, UH, T-D-E-C-U TO DO THE DESIGN AND SITE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OF THEIR FACILITY IN LAKE JACKSON. UH, AS PART OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY, I'M HERE TO, UH, LOOK FOR GETTING APPROVAL TO, UH, SITE PLANNING COMPONENT, WHICH I THINK IS THREE ACCESS POINTS. UH, ONE'S OFF ISAIAH, ONE'S OFF CENTER WAY, AND THE THIRD IS OFF OAK DRIVE. UH, WE AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY SUBMITTED THE PLANS, UH, AND ARE CONTINUING WORKING ON JUST REDEVELOPING THOSE, PICKING UP SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT BACK FROM THE PLANNING ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR THE RESUBMISSION BACK. CAN, UH, ON THE 15TH, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING I CAN ADDRESS AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN REGARDS TO THE PLANS I SUBMITTED. JEFF, I DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW. COTTON, I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THE MOMENT. MATTHEW, IS THIS GONNA GO BEFORE TRAFFIC COMMISSION? NO, IT WON'T HAVE, IT WENT BEFORE COUNCIL LAST NIGHT. UH, IN ORDER TO FIRST OF ALL GATE, UH, GAIN THEIR PERMISSION TO GO INTO OAK DRIVE LIKE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO, UH, THE, UH, COUNCIL DECIDED TO, UH, GIVE HIM SOME, GAVE APPROVAL FOR THAT IN, I MEAN, RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT INTO OAK DRIVE. SO THEY HAVE THAT PERMISSION NOW. SO THEREFORE THAT WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING TO, TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS THE, UH, IS THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT CONCEPT AND THE RIGHT PLAN SO THAT THAT EXIT ON THE OAK IS GONNA BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY, CORRECT. THAT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CROSSOVER. NO. AND WHY, WHY WOULDN'T THAT GO BEFORE TRAFFIC COMMISSION? OH, COUNCIL MAKES THAT DECISION WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY OR THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT ON THAT ONE, BUT, UH, THAT WAS NOT, UH, THEIR, THEIR CHOICE LAST NIGHT. OKAY. HMM. SAL, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER ITEM THAT DID COME FROM COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS THAT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CROSS A ACCESS AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWNED BY THE SAME, BY THE SAME, UH, OWNER. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYONE COMING IN THERE BUYING THAT PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES AND THEN WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER EAST, ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO DRIVE. SO THEREFORE, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THIS, THAT THIS SITE PLAN CARRY A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A, AN AGREEMENT CROSS ACTION AGREEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT TRACK, AND THAT WILL NEED TO BE, UH, INCLUDED INTO, IN THE, UH, IN THE NEXT, IN THE FINAL SUBMITTAL TO US. IS THAT THE ONLY CAVEAT? THAT'S THE ONLY CAVEAT THAT THEY HAVE AT THIS TIME. UH, THEY ARE FULLY AWARE THAT, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE ONLY ONE 50, UH, SQUARE FOOT MONUMENT SIGN THAT IT'S A LIABLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRACT. UH, THEY CAN PUT AS MUCH AS MUCH SIGNAGE AS THEY WANT, UH, ON THEIR FACE YET, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL NOT EVEN SIGNED. JEFF, CAN YOU WORD A, [00:05:01] UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME MORE, DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU WORD A MOTION? SO I'M TRYING TO SAY WITH A CROSS TRAFFIC AGREEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT LOT, IS THAT YES, UHHUH. . OKAY. I CAN TRY. YOU'RE THE MAN FOR IT. I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE, PLAN OF NEW T-D-E-C-U BANKING FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF CENTER WAY AND AZA STREET IN THE LAKE JACKSON TOWN CENTER LOT J SUBJECT TO A CROSS TRAFFIC AGREEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT LOT TO AVOID THE REQUEST FOR A INGRESS, ANOTHER INGRESS EGRESS TO OAK DRIVE. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. A AYE. OPPOSED? [5. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN OF NEW TDECU BANKING FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF CENTER WAY AND AZALEA STREET IN THE LAKE JACKSON TOWN CENTER, LOT J1.] SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN. DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, AT THE RENDITION OF THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DEAL? YES. OKAY. AND YOU DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT YOU OBJECT TO OR ANYTHING THE ON AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDITION? YEAH. WELL, YOU MAY, YOU MAY HAVE SOME OBJECTION TO THE COLORS . JUST, UH, WELL, DO WE GET A VOTE ON THE COLORS OR NOT? WELL, YOU MAY HAVE CITY GREEN. NO, EVERYTHING'S FINE. EVERYTHING. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE. I THINK THAT THE BILLING IS, HAS GOT GOOD AESTHETICS. THIS IS A BILL TO LEASE? NO, NO. YEAH. AND YOU SEE THE, UH, THE TELLER, UH, THE TELLER, UH, STRUCTURES THERE. YOU ALSO SEE THEIR, UH, I GUESS THAT THEIR MAIN ELEMENT THERE, WHICH IS THAT, UH, WHAT YOU CALL THAT, IT'S, IT'S AT THE PAVILION. THE PAVILION, CORRECT. UH, THE, UH, LANDSCAPE ALSO CAME IN FAIRLY WELL DETAILED, AND FOR THE MOST PART, FOR THE MOST PART, MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, REVIEW. UH, THEY ARE TAKING MOST OF THE TREES THERE OUT OF THE, OUT OF, OUT OF THE SITE, OUT OF THE LOT. UH, THEY ARE ONLY, UH, LEAVING ABOUT SIX OF THOSE TREES, IF I REMEMBER WELL. UH, BUT MOST ALL THE, ALL THE OTHER ONES THERE ARE 35 ALTOGETHER. 29 WOULD BE BITING THE DUST IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. BUT IN THEIR STEAD, THEY HAVE COME IN THERE AND HAVE COMPENSATED FOR THOSE TAKINGS SIGNIFICANTLY. UH, WE'LL GET BACK WITH 'EM WITH SOME, UH, SOME COMMENTS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEIR FIRST STAB AT THIS PARTICULAR THING DOES MAKE EVERYTHING, UH, EVERYTHING IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ORDINANCE, UH, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF TREES, AS FAR AS THE, UH, OPEN AREAS THAT ARE REQUIRED AND AS, AND, AND THE IRRIGATION THAT'S PROPOSED, UH, THE IRRIGATION THAT IS GONNA BE PUT IN THERE. SO IN THAT RESPECT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, OTHER THAN, UH, TO SHOW YOU THAT, UH, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, SCHEMATIC AND, UH, TO SEE WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? UH, AS FAR AS THE TYPE OF TREES THEY'RE PROPOSING, THERE ARE, THEY ALL MEET THE NATIVE SPECIES THAT WE, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCES. YEAH. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I'M SORRY, WHO'D YOU SAY YOU'RE WITH? I'M WITH THE ELEMENT GROUP OR DESIGN BUILD COMPANY THAT'S BEEN CONTRACTED BY T-B-E-C-U FOR THIS PROJECT. I GUESS C TWO IS THE ONE THAT SLOWLY DID THE LANDSCAPING. C TWO IS PART OF THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT, UH, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN CONTRACTED OUT AS THE LOCAL, THE ARTS ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPE COMPANY WHO LAID OUT THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY. UH, THAT WAS A, UH, OUR DESIGN GROUP, UH, TO LAY IT OUT AS PART ON, ON THE PROPERTY AND REVIEWED WITH T-D-E-C-U IN TERMS OF THE FLOW OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE WASN'T ANY ARCHITECTS INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROCESS? NO. THERE'S, THERE'S AN ARCHITECT IN INVOLVED THAT WAS LAYING THIS THING OUT AS WELL. REALLY [00:10:01] WHY WAS THE, UH, ANYTIME YOU JUST PLOT, PLOP A THING DOWN WITH NO REGARD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S NOT AN ARCHITECT. I, AGAIN, I, I'VE LOOKED AT THE TREES MYSELF AND AGAIN, I CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT A LOT OF TREES OUT THERE DO NEED SOME HELP. AND WE ARE GONNA GET AN AIST OUT THERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. SOME OF THE TREES AROUND THE PRI WE DO MAKE SOME SENSE OF TRYING TO SALVAGE THOSE IN TERMS OF, UH, LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY. IN TERMS OF SOME OF THESE TREES, I THINK THIS HAS DONE FAIRLY WELL. I MEAN, IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE TREES OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT IN THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR ANYTHING. UH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO SALVAGE THE, THE TREES THAT WERE SALVAGEABLE, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE PERIMETER. UM, AND AS THEY SAID, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK WITH AN ARBORIST, DECIDE WHAT TREES REALLY ARE, IF THEY'RE ALIVE OR IF THEY'RE GOT SOME DISEASE. I WAS OUT THERE AGAIN LAST NIGHT AND THIS EVENING LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TREES MYSELF. I'M VERY MUCH, MUCH A NATURALIST TOO. I HATE TAKING DOWN A TREE FOR THE SAKE OF TAKING DOWN A TREE. I'M AN ARCHITECT TRAINING MYSELF. SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT FORM AND FUNCTION, RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT WORKING WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA SAY YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT. WELL, I JUST, JUST DISGUSTING HOW PEOPLE TAKE THE CHEAP EASY ROUTE AND DON'T HAVE ANY REGARD FOR THE TREES, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS AREA IS COME AND CLEAR IT OUT AND SAYING THAT A LIVE OAK IS DISEASED. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A LIVE OAK IS. SO I THINK I'M SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THE LIVE OAK IS, NOT THAT I CAN SEE THE STUFF IS GROWING OUT THERE. SO IT'S LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S ALL TAKE IT DOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE ONES THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE DEAD, BUT, UH, A DOZEN ONE OR THE OTHER. RIGHT? SO I THINK YOU CAN RECEIVE MY DISSATISFACTION WITH THE EFFORT PUT INTO TRYING TO WORK WITH THE ENVIRONMENT HERE. I HEAR GLAD AND CLEAR, JUST FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW, LIKE SAL SAYS, IS KIND OF A POOR NEIGHBORLY THING TO DO. HMM. ESPECIALLY A LOCAL COMPANY LIKE CREDIT UNION. WELL, CREDIT UNION'S NOT REALLY LOCAL ANYMORE, DESPITE WHAT THEY SAY THEY STARTED. YEAH. THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T CARE. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT O THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US ANYMORE. THEY'VE PROVEN THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. COTTON, UH, THE CREDITS AND NUMBERS REQUIRED AND PROPOSED JUST, AND THE ORDINANCE DON'T ADD UP. THEY ARE MORE THAN YEAH. WHAT THE ORDINANCE CALLS FOR. YEAH. BUT IT, IT SAYS REQUIRED 112 CREDIT 25 X 87 AND IT SAYS PROPOSING 67, NO, PROPOSING 21, EXCUSE ME, FOR A NUMBER, A TOTAL OF 66. SO THE DIFFERENCE OF 21 TREES FROM REQUIRED TO PROPOSE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE WILL, WE ARE GONNA BE SENDING A NOTE ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THE MITIGATION THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN IS A LOT MORE RADICAL THAN WHAT WE REQUIRE. THEY THEMSELVES ARE, ARE THEY MISINTERPRET THE, THE, UH, THE UH, THE FORMULA THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE CITY HAS FOR, UH, MITIGATION. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ACTUALLY MITIGATION OF ANY TREES. UH, AND UH, THEY ARE TRYING TO REPLACE SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE TAKEN, BEEN TAKEN OUT. SO, UH, AT THE, UH, AT THE END OF, UH, AT THE END OF THE, OF THIS PARTICULAR DEAL, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO JUST CALL DOWN SOME OF THOSE TREES THERE IF THEY WANTED TO OR KEEP THE SAME TREES JUST TOO, TO SAY FACE. YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER TOO IS TO, I MEAN THEY, THIS PARTICULAR THING DOESN'T SHOW THE, UH, THE ACTUAL FIELD AT THAT PROPERTY THAT THAT SIDE IS GONNA HAVE TO TAKE. IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE LEVEL THAT, LET'S SAY THE, UH, HEB IS, OR WHATEVER IT IS, IF YOU REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE SEEN ACROSS WHERE THE NEW HOTEL HAS GONE, THEY WENT IN THERE AND THEY WENT A LITTLE BIT BEYOND OVERBOARD THERE. THEY PUT IN ABOUT A THREE, FOUR FOOT FILL ON THE WHOLE PROPERTY, DECIMATED EVERYTHING THERE WAS. UH, AND IN THIS CASE, THERE ALL ARE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. UH, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING THEM IS WHATEVER THOSE TREES THAT ARE, THEY ARE PLANNING ON, ON, UH, SAVING THAT THEY BE GIVEN THE PROPER TREATMENT [00:15:01] THROUGH A HORTICULTURE ARBORIST SO THAT, UH, WHATEVER MEASURE THEY'RE GONNA TAKE, THAT THEY DO TAKE A MEASURE TO KEEP THOSE TREES ALIVE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. MATTHEW, THE 66 PROPOSED TREES TO BE PLANTED OFFSITE. AKA DONATED, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A TREE DRIVE AND HAND OUT 66 TREES. , NOT THAT I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE A, YOU CAN MAKE ANY TYPE OF SUGGESTION. IT'S, UH, NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S ON, IT'S ON THEIR PAPERWORK. SO THEY'RE, WELL, I MEAN, TO BE DONATED SOMEWHERE ELSE, I TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED OFFSITE DONATED UNDER THEIR SUMMARY. UNDER THEIR SUMMARY, YEAH. OKAY. I'M, I'M, AND THAT'S THE FIRST, THAT'S ADDITIONAL, YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO NOW WE GO FROM 112 TO TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES CREDIT 25. NOW THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE TREES TO BE, UH, PRESERVED. MM-HMM. , THERE ARE NOT 25 TREES. THEY ARE, UM, THEY ARE THREE, SIX TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE PRESERVED AND THOSE COUNT FOR 25 OF THOSE CREDIT TREES THERE. OKAY. I I, I GET IT NOW. UH, I GUESS, UH, IS, I MEAN I DON'T, I HAVEN'T MADE THE COUNT, BUT ARE THOSE, UH, LET'S SEE. THE ONES THAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE SHOWING IN THAT SCHEMATIC, HOW MANY TREES ARE THOSE? DO YOU KNOW? I DUNNO. I PUT THAT 3, 4, 5, 6. THERE'S, THERE'S SIX. THERE'S SIX COUNTED HERE. NOT OF THE, OF THE NEW TREES. TO BE OH, OF THE NEW TREES. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SAVED. NO, NO, I HAVEN'T COUNTED THAT. 24. SO THEY INDICATE 24 TREES TO BE ADDED TO THAT AND THAT WOULD THEN POPULATE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE CAMPUS THERE. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE INTERPRETING THE, THE MITIGATION BASED ON HOW THEY READ THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S WHY THEY CUT. THEY'RE COMING UP WITH HUNDRED AND 12 TREES, I BELIEVE. YES. SO, UH, THOSE, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD 'EM TO THOSE 66 TREES TO BE PLANTED SOMEWHERE ELSE, WELL THAT'S IN YOUR PURVIEW, I GUESS TO DO THAT. WELL, LET'S JUST SAY THAT'S AN OFFER AND WE CAN ACCEPT IT AND THEY'RE CONTRACTUALLY BOUND TO PROVIDE IT. I CONCUR WITH HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENT, , THE BOOKEND LAWYERS. . I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. , ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO DO IT OR WHERE THERE WOULD BE A PLACE TO DO IT. YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY AN APPRECIATED YEAH, I MEAN I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. OFFER, OFFER, I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF MY CONCERNS ON THE, THE OAK DRIVE ACCESS, BUT YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL KNOWS BETTER THAN US AND I'M EXTREMELY SURPRISED THAT THERE'S NOT GOING IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC COMMISSION TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. LIKE, I WOULD ALMOST WANT TO PROTEST THAT DECISION. SO THE, WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, THE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OTHER TWO POINTS. I MEAN, I, I SEE THE IDEA BEHIND IT. I JUST, THAT THAT PARTICULAR, I MEAN RIGHT THERE ON THE LIGHT, I MEAN I JUST, FOR AS SLOW AS THEY'VE BEEN, I THINK THEY COULD HAVE USED THE GOOD WORK AND GOOD INPUT. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THIS. OKAY, SWEETHEART. THAT'S THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, ISN'T IT? NO, SHE JUST SH SHOWED IT WHERE IT WAS. I LIKE THAT DRAWING YOU HAD. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE, YOU SAID MIDBLOCK 277 FROM UH, CENTER COMING DOWN. I THINK IT'S THE FIRST NOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE APPROVAL ON IT, I'M GONNA GO OUT THERE AND THIS CONSISTENT TREES SURVEYED. SO WE'RE TREES ARE THERE AND WE CAN THEN AVOID HITTING THOSE TREES WHEN WE PUT CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE PAMPHLET? THAT THERE IS A NATURAL YEAH. SPOT BETWEEN SOME OF THE TREES. THAT'S OAK RIGHT HERE. THE FOOT DOWN, NO OAK IS AT THE TOP. OH, OAK IS AT THE TOP SAVING THE TREES. AND THAT'S THAT BUSY THING BEHIND HEV THAT YEAH, TWO. SO I ACTUALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LITTLE, THE TWO PIECE. OKAY. RELEASE. 'CAUSE THAT GETS CRAZY SOMETIMES. NO. YEAH. THAT [00:20:01] THEY, I GET SPICY THERE WITH THE SPLIT LANE AND PEOPLE NOT PAYING ATTENTION EACH DIRECTION. YEAH, I HAD TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS WERE CUT OFF ON THIS. MM-HMM. FIGURE OUT WHAT STREETS WERE WHERE. OKAY. AND THE ONLY OTHER ITEM RELATED TO THE SIDE PLAN THAT I DIDN'T MENTION BEFORE IS THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE CROSSING THAT LINE CHANNEL, UH, DRAINAGE AND THEY WILL BE INSTALLING A UH, BOX, CULVERT STRUCTURE OVER THERE IN ORDER TO GET THAT, THAT ACCESS THROUGH THERE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON LANDSCAPE SAL? UH, I'M NOT SURE. THAT IS THE ONLY THING. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE GOING BACK TO CONFIRMING WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU PASS TONIGHT ON THOSE UH, ADDED TREES THERE. WE'LL PASS OFF. SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE TO ACCEPT ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW AND ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN OF NEW TDCU BANKING FACILITY AT THE CORNER OF CENTER WAY AND AZALEA STREET IN THE LAKE JACKSON TOWN CENTER. LOT J ONE AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST MAKE THE ADDITION WITH UH, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ACCEPT SUBJECT TO CITY, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTANCE , YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WORKING WITH THE CITY YEAH. OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE UH, DONATION OF THE OFFSITE 66 TREES PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED OFFSITE AND DONATED. DO YOU MIND AMENDED AND AGREE? OKAY. WE HAVE UH, AMENDED MOTION. ANOTHER SECOND ON THAT. ONE SECOND. ALRIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. I'M SORRY FOR LOSING MY COOL A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND IT'S NOT JUST YOU , I DIDN'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. THIS IS BUSINESS. I APPRECIATE THAT. WELL IT'S A RECURRING THEME AMONGST BUSINESS PEOPLE COMING IN HERE. WE PREFER OUR TREES. WELL AND WE GET SPICY ABOUT IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND OVER HERE IT SAID YOU LOOKED AT THE DESIGN HERE WAS TRYING TO PICK UP THE MOTIF OF THE TREES. I THIS COMES OUT A LITTLE BIT OF A UH, FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT ISH. SO THOSE PIECES, VERY FRANK LLOYD VERY ARE TRYING TO TASTES JUST HARD TO TELL. AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS STOP WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD, . I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ONCE BEFORE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FAILED TO MENTION IS THE FACT, THE ORIENTATION OF THAT BUILDING IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE THAT. YEAH. IT'S ORIENTED TOWARDS THE OPEN AREA. TOWARDS THE YEAH. RIGHT. I MEAN WHAT SEEMS TO BE A PARK AND ORIGINALLY THAT WAS THE INTENT THAT IT WAS . YEAH. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PARK. YEAH. CORRECT. WHETHER THAT THING HAPPENS OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, THE INTENTION IS THERE NOT TO CREATE THEM, UH, BLOCK THEMSELVES OUT OF THEIR VIEW OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC. I WOULD THINK. MM-HMM. . BUT MONEY IS MONEY AND THEY CAN SELL TOO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WORKS FOR THE DONATED PART. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SIGN, DO WE? NO YOU DON'T. ALRIGHT. [7. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, INTEREST. JEFF, I DON'T HAVE ANY TONIGHT. THANK YOU SAL. ON HORSE CREEK DRIVE GOING TOWARDS KROGER. MM-HMM. . THE LAST TURNAROUND BEFORE YOU GET TO SYCAMORE WILLOW DRIVE. MM-HMM. . AFTER YOU PASS THAT CROSSOVER OR TURNAROUND, WHAT YOU GONNA CALL IT? THERE'S A PANEL LOOSE ON THE INSIDE LANE EVERY TIME I GO OVER IT. YEAH. C CLUNK. IT CLUMPS. YEAH, THAT WHAT WE ADDED. WE PUT THAT IN THERE ACCORDING TO NICOLE, UH, IN THIS UH, SPOT REPAIR PRO, UH, PROJECT THAT WE JUST LEFT. AND THAT HAS, I MEAN THEY HAVEN'T MOVED INTO THAT ONE YET. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT AS YOU APPROACH BELOW SYCAMORE TRAVELING EAST. YEAH. YES. WORKS. COOL, COOL, COOL. THANK YOU. COTTON, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN . IT'S A COMMUNITY THIS OR OTHERWISE. MATTHEW. OH, DAVID ALREADY LEFT. HE'S SMART. UM, WHAT, IS THERE ANY BUILDING REQUIREMENTS FOR MATERIALS FOR FENCES? I'VE SEEN A RATHER LARGE FENCE HERE RECENTLY IN LAKE JACKSON. THAT IS OF YEAH, WE NOTICED THAT ADDRESSES FENCES AND THE MATERIALS. YES. HAVE YOU? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT HAS, I JUST SAW IT THE OTHER DAY. IT'S HERE IN TOWN. THEY DID A, UH, SHEET METAL [00:25:01] OH, FENCE. WOW. SOLID SHEET METAL FENCE GOES AROUND THE JUNKYARD. I, YOU KNOW, I I IT LOOKED, IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING I WOULD SEE OFF 2 88 B, BUT IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS NOW. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. HAS ANYONE FENCE MAN? YES SIR. WHAT CAN I, WHAT CAN, CAN I USE SHEET METAL TO BUILD A FENCE? LIKE CAN I USE SHEET METAL TO BUILD THE BORDERING PART OF MY FENCE? SO I WOULD HAVE TO HONESTLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS IN THE, IN THE CODE. HOWEVER, THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR VARIOUS BUILDING MATERIALS. MM-HMM. . UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FENCES WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD'VE WEIGHED IN ON WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT, UH, USE OUR RESTRICTIVE USE OF MATERIALS. OKAY. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU. MR. I SAW THERE WAS A NEW FENCE IN TOWN AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE SAME SHEET METAL THEY USED TO GO AROUND THE JUNKYARDS OVER ON 2 88 B I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE IT'S AT. I'LL PROBABLY SEND YOU A MESSAGE HERE THIS WEEK. THAT'S FINE. YES. SEND ME A MESSAGE. I WILL, I JUST CURIOUS, I'M LOCATION SO I CAN GO LOOK AT IT. YEAH, I WAS CURIOUS. 'CAUSE SEEMS OB ABNORMAL AND EXTREMELY TALL. OKAY. OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND ARE NO MINIATURE HOOTERS MOVING INTO THE OLD TACO PLACE? YOU DIDN'T SEE IT ON YOUR FAVORITE WEBSITE, THE BC UPDATES PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MINIATURE HOOTERS MOVING INTO THE OLD TACO BANNO . NO, I, I HAVE YOU MISSED THAT ONE COULD SEE YEAH. MAYBE THE ONLY THING THAT SUCCEEDS THERE. . NO, I I I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT ONE. DARN. UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, UM, UH, EL TACO SPOT IS, IS MOVING INTO WHERE THE LOUNGE WAS. MM MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S A BIGGER SPACE FOR THEM, BUT THEY DID SPRINKLE THAT BUILDING, SO SHOULD BE OKAY. WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, DAVID, ANYTHING ELSE? NO SIR. SURE THERE'S SOMETHING. HOW'S THAT SATCH APARTMENT OR TOWN HOME OR DUPLEX OR SIX LEVELS OF HELL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL BUILDING THE, THE, UH, HOUSING UNITS IN THE BACK AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE STILL CORRECTING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THEY HAD. THEY, THEY STILL HAVE, THEY STILL GOING THE COFFER DAM METHOD OR THE WHAT? THE COFFER DAM METHOD? YES. THEY, THEY STILL ARE, BUT NOW NO, THEY'VE IMPROVED THAT. NOW THEY'VE LOWERED SOME OF THOSE THAT'S EXPENSIVE AND UH, IT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK BAD AS, AS, AS AS IT USED TO BEFORE. AND ARE BUCKY'S APARTMENT COMPLEX FROM 2020? YEAH, WELL THEY'RE, THEY EXPECT THEM TO OPEN SPRING 2022 ACCORDING TO THEIR SIGNS. I SEE, I SEE THAT. YEAH. SO NO, THEY ARE ACTUALLY STILL, STILL OUT THERE WORKING. THEY ARE PUTTING IN WINDOWS AND DOORS AND, AND WEATHERING IN THE, THE BUILDING. UM, WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT TO SLOW DOWN IN, IN EVEN MORE SLOW DOWN IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE AT A STEADY PACE. AWESOME. THEY SEEM TO BE MOVING PRETTY GOOD. YEAH, RIGHT NOW. A LOT GOING ON. SEEM TO BE THERE. YEAH. I GUESS ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS SLOWED DOWN. SAY SOMETHING DOWN HERE. PARTY ON. I SEE YOUR SIDEWALK OVER THERE ON LAKE HAS A GOT CHOPPED UP PRETTY WELL. YEAH, IT'S GONE. IT'S GONE. THAT ONE. AND SHE CAN TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE A FUN PROJECT. ? YES SIR. . YEAH. AND I'VE ONLY GOTTEN ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE PORTA POTTY AT THE END OF MY STREET. OH, DID YOU FILE THE COMPLAINT YOURSELF? NO, I DID NOT. , WE SELECTED THE SITE. . THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. . WE KNEW THAT, UH, DAVID AND BUSTER BOTH LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THE PORTA PARTY'S GONNA GO. THERE WE GO. IT WORKS OUTSIDE OF THAT. UM, JUST ANOTHER DAY IN BEAUTIFUL PARADISE KNOWN AS LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS. THANK YOU DAVID. THANK YOU SIR. RENEE, ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL? OUR SPECIAL GUEST STAR? LOOK. OH MY GOSH, COME ON. MODESTO. YOU HADN'T BEEN FOR A WHILE. YOU, YEAH, YOU GOTTA GIVE US AN UPDATE, BOSS. I GOT DRESSED UP FOR YOU SO WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU THIS YEAR. THIS IS YOUR FIRST APPEARANCE. I KNOW. IT'S SMART. AH, SEE, SEE WE'RE 90 DAYS IN NOW ACCORDING TO OUR CALENDAR. WE'RE THREE MEETINGS IN. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD YOU STILL HAVE, UH, CHOSEN TO BLESS THIS SCENARIO OF LEE JACKSON WITH YOUR PRESENCE. . THANK YOU. MODESTA MIL. GOOD, GOOD. YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING THAT CAN ENLIGHTEN US ON IN LAKE JACKSON AREA? THE PERSON THERE SAYS STOP WHEN YOU'RE AHEAD. SO I'M TALKING AHEAD. TON 2.0. WHAT ABOUT THE SIDEWALK Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT? UH, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. IT, HOW'S THAT PROJECT GOING? IT'S GOING WELL EVER QUICK IN THE, AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH, YOU [00:30:01] KNOW, WE CAN DO, WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOCUS ON SCHOOL GROUPS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY PROPERTY. SO I RESPECT THAT. IT WAS DEFINITELY A GOOD ONE TO DO. THAT ONE IS CROWDED EVERY MORNING. LITTLE, LITTLE PEOPLE, BUT GOOD DEAL. SO SHE TRY TO MAKE THE MONEY STRETCH, STRETCH OUT THERE. UH, WE ONLY HAD DETERMINED AMOUNT OF MONEY AND SHE TRIED TO EXTEND IT AS FAR AS SHE COULD. ALONG THAT STRETCH. WHO DID WE END UP GOING WITH FOR THE CONTRACT ON THAT? WE WENT WITH UH, MATULA. IT WAS MATULA. GOOD. GOD BLESS. YES THEY DID. AND UH, NOBODY ASKED ABOUT DOWNTOWN . WELL, EDDIE'S NOT HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE FIGURED. HE WAS HIDING OUT BECAUSE OF WHATEVER WAS HAPPENING DOWN THERE. COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PARKING OR, WELL, AT LEAST YOU SEE SOME OF THE SOD NOW GO OUT THERE. THERE'S STILL THOSE SMALL AREAS OF SOD THAT HADN'T BE PUT IN THERE. SOME REPLACEMENT OF THE PLANTS THAT, UH, THAT FROZE THE SEAL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I FIGURE HE'S BEEN LIVING AT SOUTHERN SYCAMORE FOR SOME TIME NOW. EVERY TIME I DRIVE THROUGH THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE, HE'S POOR GUY'S LIVING THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE. I FEEL BAD FOR HIM. I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD DROP OFF LUNCH EVERY TIME. THAT'S AN OFFER. HE'S NOT HERE TO ACCEPT IT. AH, DARN . PERFECTLY TIMED. ANYTHING ELSE? SO THAT, THAT'S ABOUT IT. ANNA. ONE'S OUR NEXT [8. SET NEXT MEETING DATE ] ONE. UM, TUESDAY, APRIL THE SECOND. EVERYBODY CHECK THEIR CALENDARS? YEP, IT'S ON MY CALENDAR. SOUNDS LIKE PARTY. WE NEED TO LEASE THESE FOLKS TO SHOW UP. SO THAT RECORDING? YEP. WE'LL BE HERE. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. Y'ALL MEETINGS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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