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THERE.ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED.
I GOT, UH, SIX 30 ON MY COMPUTER.
[Call to Order]
RIGHT.WELCOME EVERYONE, UH, TO THE MONDAY, APRIL 1ST, 2024 REGULAR STATION OF LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL AT 25 OAK DRIVE IN LAKE JACKSON.
HOPE, UH, NO ONE GOT APRIL FOOLED TODAY, OR LIKE MODESTO SAYS, HE HASN'T FIGURED OUT IF HE'S BEEN FOOLED TODAY OR NOT, SO HE'LL WAIT AND SEE.
UH, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY, UH, FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO, UH, BEGIN WITH PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
AND I HAVEN'T ASKED ANYBODY TO DO IT, AND SO I'LL ASK, UM, I'LL DO IT.
THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THROUGH THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR, FLAG, I PLEDGE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
AND IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN AN INVOCATION, UH, I HEAVEN.
ANY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS.
I THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING BLESSINGS, YOU BESTOWED ON EACH OF US.
AND AGAIN, LIKE LAST MEETING, I WILL ASK THAT YOU, UH, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE POLLEN.
UH, FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS, THE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN, AND OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THEM SAFE.
FATHER, PLEASE GIVE THE COUNSEL THE WISDOM, GUIDANCE, AND COURAGE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IN YOUR NAME, WE OFFER UP THIS PRAYER.
[PRESENTATION]
THING WE'RE GOING, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION IS PROCLAMATION OF APRIL 13TH, 2024.UH, VOW 22, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.
YOU GOT STUFF AROUND HERE, SO CAMERAS GET YOU AND EVERYTHING.
SO, PROCLAMATION I GERALD ROSKI BY TH VEST IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 13TH, 2024 AS V 22 DAY, WHEREAS V 22 WAS ORIGINALLY INCORPORATED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN 2017.
AND WHEREAS APRIL 13TH, 2024, V 22 WILL BE SHOWING SUPPORT AND BRINGING AWARENESS TO VETERAN SUICIDE DURING THE, THEIR EVENT AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
WHEREAS V 22 IS A GROUP OF FRIENDS, FAMILY, VETERANS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN AFFECTED BY POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER IN SOME WAY, THE ORGANIZATION SEEKS TO PREVENT, UH, VETERAN SUICIDE THROUGH COMMUNITY AWARENESS, CAMARADERIE, UH, INTERACTION AND COMMUNICATION WITH VETERANS.
WHEREAS ACCORDING TO THE VA'S SUICIDE DATA RECORDED IN 2012, THERE IS A NATIONAL AVERAGE OF 22 SUICIDES PER DAY, OR 8,000 A YEAR.
THE VA STUDY ALSO SHOWED 11,000 NON-FATAL SUICIDE ATTEMPTS, UH, IN A YEAR'S TIME.
NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 13TH, 2024 AS VI 22 DAY IN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON IN TESTIMONY, WHEREAS WITNESS MY HAND AND THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON THIS FIRST DAY OF APRIL 1ST, 2024.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT THE EVENT THAT WOULD BE SATURDAY ON THE 13TH? UM, IT'S FOUR MILE WALK.
UM, WE'LL HAVE A LASER TAG OF KIDS INSIDE BOUNCE HOUSES, UPSIDE FOR, UH, KIDS AS WELL.
WE'LL HAVE, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 20 VENDORS THAT ARE VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES AND ALSO OTHER, UM, NON-PROFITS THAT COME AND HELP OUT.
UH, WE HAVE THE AFTER PARTY DOWNTOWN JACKSON, FROM WORST HOUSE TO WAYSIDE FROM ONE 30.
UM, COLE DIGS WILL BE DOWN THERE PLAYING.
IT'S MOST VETERAN MIKES, THEY ONLY ONE VETERANS WALK.
WE LET KIDS, PARENTS, SUPPORTERS, EVERYTHING.
I LIKE THAT IT'S A COMMUNITY EVENT.
'CAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST YEARS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY JOIN THE, THE WALK AND STUFF.
AND THE WALK IS THE SAME ROUTE THAT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, SO THAT'S WORKED OUT REAL WELL FOR US, I THINK.
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ALL RIGHT.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE VISITORS, UH, THAT ARE ATTENDING TODAY WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, AN ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE ITEM CANNOT BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR THE REGULAR AGENDA.
DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANNA APPROACH A COUNCIL ABOUT? THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL MOVE TO DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM.
AGAIN, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR THE REGULAR AGENDA.
DOES ANYONE HAVE, UH, A CONFLICT THAT THEY NEED TO DECLARE? NO, SIR.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVED MINUTES, MARCH 18TH, 2024.
ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES FOR KE LAKE JACKSON, BEAUTIFUL PARKS AND YAK.
ITEM THREE IS APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO, TWO A THREE FOR THE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 30 SUBDIVISIONS AND THE DEVELOPMENT MANUAL TO DISTINGUISH SITE PLAN, FILING PROCEDURES FOR, UH, PLOT FILING PROCEDURES.
FROM HERE WE GO, A BUNCH OF P'S HERE FROM PLOT FOR FILING, UH, PLA FILING PROCEDURES, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ESTABLISH GUIDELINES FOR DEVELOPERS RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY, UH, DEDICATIONS AND RAISE THE MINIMUM FLOOR ELEVATION TO PREVENT BUILDING FLOODING.
AND ITEM FOUR IS APPROVE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION, BID NUMBER 2 2 0 4 0 0 5, UNLEADED FUEL, DIESEL AND OIL TO MID TEXT OIL WITH AN, UH, UNLEADED FUEL AND DIESEL MARKUP OF 0.0116 FOR THE SERVICE CENTER AND MARKUP 0 1 1 0 0 TO THE WILDERNESS GOLF COURSE AND OIL PRICE PER GALLON.
THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO IS AN ITEM THAT ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN SHANYA.
[1. Discuss No Parking and No Loading/Unloading signs and school zone hours on Anchusa and school zone hours at Elizabet Ney. – Sherri Russell]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA.DISCUSS, UH, NO PARKING AND NO LOADING, UNLOADING SIGNS AND SCHOOL ZONE HOURS ON ACACIA AND SCHOOL ZONE HOURS FOR AT ELIZABETH MAY NAY.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, SHERRY, MS. RUSSELL.
AND I MET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WELL BEST, BRANDON AND MR. MASSEY.
AND, UM, TO DECIDE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED ON CHUSA.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, IT'S HARD TO SEE THE STARS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, NO LOADING AND UNLOADING SIGNS AND NO PARKING SIGNS.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE STOPPING ON CHUSA AND THEY'RE ALREADY STOPPING ON T OR AT CHUSA.
AND THE, UM, RED SIGNS ARE JUST NO PARKING SIGNS AND THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.
AND, UM, THEY ASKED THAT THE TIMES BE CHANGED NEXT YEAR TO, UM, THREE O'CLOCK INSTEAD OF 3 33 TO FOUR 15 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'RE HOLDING THE WALKERS AND THE WAY THEY'RE RELEASING PEOPLE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND THEN THE NEXT MAP IS ELIZABETH NAY THAT'S GOING TO, UM, BECOME THE SUCCESS ACADEMY.
UH, SO MA HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, UH, NOT THAT MANY.
AND MR. MASSEY SAID IF WE JUST PUT A SCHOOL ZONE UP AROUND JUST THOSE IMMEDIATE STREETS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, THAT'LL BE SUFFICIENT.
SO WE'LL DO SPLIT SCHOOL ZONES SIX 30 TO EIGHT AND THREE 30 TO FOUR 30.
SO THEY'RE MOVING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE MOVING THAT THE, THE CLASSES THEY'RE MOVING TODAY, THEY'RE MOVING FROM THE, UH, THE OLD BUILDINGS AT, UH, LAKE JACKSON INTERMEDIATE.
AND SO THEY'LL MOVE HERE AND THEN OLD LAKE JACKSON INTERMEDIATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING DOWN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S DISCUSSED.
AND THEN AS SOON AS YOU ALL DISCUSS IT, I'LL BRING, WELL, NOT AS SOON, I'LL BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK NEXT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION KIND OF IN THIS GENRE ON HERE IN THAT, HAVE WE EVER REALLY DONE MUCH OF AN EVALUATION OF OUR CITYWIDE SCHOOL ZONES? 'CAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES LIKE BETWEEN YON AND WILLOW WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE STRETCH OF SCHOOL ZONE.
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FOR 20 YEARS.I HAVE NEVER SEEN A KID IN THAT STRETCH.
THAT CROSSES RIGHT THERE, CHIEF.
BUT I JUST WONDERED, YOU KNOW, AS THEIR SCHOOLS CHANGE, GO AHEAD AND THERE'S A CROSSING GUARD THERE.
BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN A KID, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE'VE EVER DONE JUST LOOK, YOU KNOW, AS OUR SCHOOLS CHANGE AND AS THEY MOVE FROM THIS PLACE TO THAT PLACE, HOW WE REALLY JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT OUR, OUR SCHOOL ZONES APPROPRIATE.
I, I WOULD GUESS THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T LOOK AT IF THERE'S ACTUALLY SCHOOL.
A CHILD, SCHOOL AGED CHILD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I GUESS IT'S, IT'S DESIGNED, DEFINED BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL, I GUESS, I DUNNO, I, I'D HAVE TO REALLY RELY ON THE CHIEF, UH, ON SOME DATA WE DID.
ALL OF THE SCHOOL ZONES AROUND THE ELEMENTARIES HAVE CHANGED, YOU KNOW, OVER THIS PAST THREE YEAR OR FOUR YEAR PERIOD AS THE SCHOOLS GOT RECONSTRUCTED.
AND WE RELIED ON THE, UM, THE ARCHITECT AND THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND, AND IN THIS CASE, ON CHUSA, WE, UM, DIDN'T ADOPT ON INTRUSIVE WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED OUT IN THE FIELD.
WE GOT A LOT OF IT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE NO PARKING, UH, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE SCHOOL AS THOSE, ALL THOSE SIGNS, UH, AS A CON AS THE NEW SCHOOL WAS CONSTRUCTED, THE SIGNS CHANGED.
WE PROBABLY HAVE NOT DONE A LOOK BACK.
AND OVERALL OF ALL THE, ALL THE SCHOOL ZONES OUT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
SO YON, WILLOW AND THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A BAD EXERCISE, UH, TO DO.
AND ALSO GETTING DATA, ASKING REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UM, WITH THE, UH, CROSSING GUARDS TO ASK THEM TO COLLECT DATA FOR US.
BE, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT PERIODICALLY.
HAVE SOMEONE WITH A COUNTER JUST TO SEE, UM, NOT A BAD EXERCISE.
AND WE CAN START LOOKING INTO JUST THAT CURIOSITY OF, ONCE YOU PUT A SCHOOL ZONE IN, IS IT THERE FOREVER OR DO THEY EVER GET TO AND OVER THE, OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THAT I'VE BEEN THERE, SO MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
YOU KNOW, THE BUS AND ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
AND THEN, UH, SCHOOLS ARE IN THE RELATIVE, RELATIVELY THE SAME PLACE, BUT IN GENERAL THERE'S LESS WALKERS I THINK, THAN ARE ALL THESE STAGING LANES.
'CAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE GET DRIVEN TO SCHOOL NOW.
UM, THAT IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH AN EVALUATION.
I BELIEVE JUST YOU CAN, SOMEBODY, SOMEONE ON COP, UH, CAN HELP WITH THAT.
HE HAD MOTORS AND, UH, SOME OF OUR CROSSING OR C PS FOR SURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE SIGN ORDINANCE? OKAY.
SO IS IT OKAY TO DIRECT, UH, SHERRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THE ORDINANCE? YEP.
[2. Discuss and consider amending the FY 23/24 budget to fund the Lake Jackson Volunteer Fire Department Duty Crew Program. – Fire Chief Harvey/Modesto Mundo]
ON TO ITEM TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE 22 23 24 BUDGET TO FUND THE LAKE JACKSON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, DUTY CREW PROGRAM, UH, FIRE CHIEF HARVEY AND MODESTO.I'LL GIVE A BRIEF, UH, UH, FRAMEWORK.
UH, THE CHIEF HAD, UH, COME AND, UH, SPOKE WITH ME AND, UM, STAFF, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO, UM, ABOUT, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS THAT HE WANTED TO, TO LOOK AT.
AND WE HAD A ITEM THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, TALK TO HIM ABOUT, UH, A FIRETRUCK.
AND HE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DONATE THAT TO THE UTILITY, MOVE IT TO THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS. BUT IN THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UM, WE STARTED TO, UH, TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, LOOKING AT A, WHAT, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD CALL DUTY, UH, DUTY OR ASSIGNMENT.
CURRENTLY THE, WE, UM, FUND A FIRE DEPARTMENT PAY PER CALL, UH, PROGRAM FOR THE VOLUNTEERS.
SO WHEN THEY MAKE A CALL, UH, THEY'RE, UM, THEY RECEIVE, UH, $20 PER CALL THAT IS MANAGED BY THE VOLUNTEER, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THEY SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENTS TO US QUARTERLY.
WE ALSO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, THE VOLUNTEER, UH, FIREFIGHTER WITH A BASEWATER, UM, SEWER BILL AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE TWO PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATION.
BUT THE CHIEF WANTED TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF DUTY ASSIGNMENT PAY, WHERE THEY COULD GET, UH, FIREFIGHTERS TO, YOU KNOW, SIGN UP AND PLEDGE.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD BE ON CALL READY, YOU KNOW, DURING A SHIFT AND HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT DETAIL.
WHAT I DID TELL THE CHIEF IS, SAYS I WAS OPEN, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT IT SOUND, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY, UH, FEASIBLE.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BROACH IT WITH COUNSEL BECAUSE IT WOULD
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BE A, EITHER PUT IN THE BUDGET AT SOME POINT IN TIME OR AMENDING THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT WOULD, MOST LIKELY IT WOULD HAVE A COST IMPACT TO THE FUNDING PROGRAM, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE MANAGED BY THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.BUT CHIEF HARVEY'S HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA AND WHAT HE THINKS WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE BENEFIT AND MAYBE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HE THINKS HE COULD, UH, TACKLE WITH IT.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME TONIGHT.
UM, SOME THINGS I'D LIKE TO CORRECT ON A DOCUMENT THAT'S ON THE WALL.
CURRENTLY, THE NUMBERS FOR 2024, THAT WAS FOR LAST QUARTER OF 23, SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE WHERE WE RECEIVED THAT CHECK THIS YEAR.
SO HOWEVER THAT WORKS OUT FINANCIALLY.
UH, SECONDLY, UH, THE PAPER CALL RATE CURRENTLY FOR EACH FIREFIGHTER IS $15 PER CALL, NOT TO 20.
THAT'S INDICATED ON THE DOCUMENT.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I PROPOSED IS THE NATION IS FACING A LACK OF VOLUNTEERS.
AND YOU GUYS SEE THAT IN ALL THE BUSINESS THAT YOU DO HERE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS ON A, A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PAGE, IT'S KIND OF DEVASTATING.
UH, WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THERE IS PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING THAT WITH ESDS AND PUTTING A LOT OF DIFFERENT SALARIED FOLKS IN THERE FOR CURRENTLY, WHAT IS EXORBITANT NUMBERS, IN MY OPINION, STARTING AT HIGH SIXTIES AND GOING UP NORTH FROM THAT FOR PAID STAFF.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE IS OVERCOME SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT I HAVE WITH PEOPLE MAKING THEMSELVES BETTER.
THEY'VE COME OFF OF THAT ROTATING SHIFT AND THEY'VE GONE TO DAY STAFF JOBS.
SO I HAVE SOME DEFICIENCIES THERE.
SO THEY'RE ADJUSTING THEIR TIME SCHEDULES BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY THROUGH THE STATISTICS WHERE MY DAYTIME STAFFING HAS GONE DOWN DRAMATICALLY.
WHEREAS BEFORE, WE HAD ALL THOSE CYCLING ROTATING SHIFT PERSONNEL AND NOW IT'S MORE DAYTIME STAFF, AND THEN THEY KIND OF HAVE A CUTOFF AT NIGHT SO THEY DON'T GET UP LATE, NOT MAKE WORK, ET CETERA.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE IS WITH A VERY SMALL INCENTIVIZED PROGRAM FOR 2 12, 12 HOUR SHIFTS DURING THE DAY, IS GET FOUR PERSONNEL TO SIGN UP.
SO THAT'S MEETING OUR MINIMAL STANDARD OF A DRIVER OFFICER AND TWO FIREFIGHTERS TO SAY, YES, I AM GOING TO PICK MONDAY, APRIL 1ST FROM 6:00 AM TO 1800 HOURS THAT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO GO GET ON A FIRETRUCK AND GO TO THE RESPONSE THAT IS ALSO SUPPLEMENTED BY THE CURRENT $15 PAY PER CALL.
SO THAT IT WOULD BE $15 FOR 12 HOURS, AND THEN HOWEVER MANY CALLS THEY MAY SEE DURING THAT TIME.
SO THAT WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH THAT ADDITIONAL PAPER CALL STAFF.
UM, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THIS WAS GONNA PLAY OUT BASED ON WHAT IS GOING ON CURRENTLY WITH STAFFING AND EVERYBODY MOVING ON IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIVES.
IT'S JUST AN, IT'S ONE OF THE, THE PRIMARY GOALS OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE.
I HAVE A SECONDARY AND TERTIARY PLAN TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD, BUT I OWE THE CITIZENS' RESPONSE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THERE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A TEAM GETTING OUT THERE AT LEAST PUTTING EYES ON IT AND THEN CALLING FOR MUTUAL AID HELP FROM OUR OTHER CITIES SURROUNDING US BASED ON OUR COUNTY AGREEMENT.
SO LET ME UNDERSTAND YOU SAYING IT'S A $15.
YOU WANT TO KEEP THE $15, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE $15 PAPER CALL.
WHAT I'M DOING IS FOUR PEOPLE OKAY, ARE SIGNING UP FOR A 12 HOUR SHIFT.
EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS GET IT ADDED $15 FOR THAT 12 HOUR SHIFT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 252 DAYS A YEAR.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING WEEKENDS, WE'RE NOT DOING HOLIDAYS.
AND I BELIEVE WE ESTIMATED LIKE 30,000, TWO 40 OR SOMETHING WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO IT.
AND I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT I'M GONNA HAVE FOUR PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
BUT THIS IS JUST LOOKING BEST CASE SCENARIO THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP FOR THOSE 252 DAYS, FOUR PEOPLE AT THE $15 OR $60 ADDITIONAL DAY FOR A 12 HOUR SHIFT, RIGHT? WE'RE 120 FOR TOTAL.
AND THEN SEEING HOW THAT WORKS OUT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THINGS, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM TO BE IN A STATION.
IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE DO NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE WORKING AT HOME, CUTTING THE GRASS, FIXING THE PLUMBING, DOING WHATEVER ELSE THEY'RE DOING.
BUT AT THIS WAY, WE'VE SIGNED UP ON A CALENDAR, THERE'LL BE AN SOG THAT GOES IN PLACE AS TO, UH, DEFICIENCIES THAT MAY OCCUR.
YOU KNOW, PRIMARY BEING A, A WRITTEN OR A VERBAL WARNING SECOND, UH, WRITTEN AND THEN A, A TERTIARY ONE AS BEING A, UH, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD.
I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PROGRAM.
I I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADD AMENDMENT TO YOUR PROPOSAL IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
IF IT'S A HOLIDAY, ADD AN EXTRA $5 FOR A HOLIDAY ALSO.
AND I, IF THAT FALL ON A HOLIDAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT THE HOLIDAYS, THE DAYTIME STAFF IS AROUND SO I CAN GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER NUMBERS.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HOLIDAYS OR I, YOU KNOW, THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MORE AVAILABLE.
IT'S JUST THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THAT'S STARTING TO TURN INTO A PROBLEM.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LOVED ABOUT LAKE JACKSON IS I THINK THAT THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UH, THE, THE CITY STAFF AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY STAFF AND THE EMS, OUR PD.
I THINK OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
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IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.UM, I MEAN, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.
UH, YOU COULDN'T PAY ME QUADRUPLE THAT MUCH TO LOAD UP AND DO THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
UH, SO THAT'S, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S JUST HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
AND, UH, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'LL STEP UP WHEN EVERYBODY'S LEAVING, THEY RUN FORWARD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT THING.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALWAYS CONTINUE TO DO IS TO SUPPORT OUR VOLUNTEERS IN EVERY CAPACITY.
UM, AND I DO THINK THAT ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS HAVE VALUE.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SEE US CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
SO I LIKE THAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
UM, A A FULLY, I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
UH, EVEN LOOKING AT FREEPORT, THEY ARE THE ONLY KIND OF LOCAL, UNLESS YOU GET TO HOUSTON, UH, PAID FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME RECRUITING PEOPLE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT GETTING VOLUNTEERS IS VERY DIFFICULT.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS, THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS FEEL SUPPORTED.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A LITTLE INCENTIVE TO INCENTIVIZE THAT IN A MONETARY WAY.
UM, I'M IN AN INDUSTRY WHERE WHEN WE RUN FORWARD, WE GET PIZZA PARTIES.
THAT'S NOT HOW PEOPLE WANNA BE INCENTIVIZED.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT GOES BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES.
UM, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT HOW OFTEN ARE WE HAVING DAYTIME CALLS RIGHT NOW TO WHERE, UM, YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE SHORT STAFFED? I MEAN, HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS THAT NUMBER STATISTICALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY? SO I DIDN'T PULL THAT DATA TODAY.
BUT THIS YEAR SO FAR, AS OF TODAY AT APRIL 1ST, 2024, UM, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 65 TO 70% OF OUR CALLS IN THE DAYTIME HOURS.
ANYWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN 30 TO ABOUT 1600.
UM, TWO WEEKS AGO, WE JUST DID 29 CALLS IN ONE WEEK, AND THAT WAS HIGH.
SO, AND HOW ARE WE STACKED WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING TO THOSE CALLS? UH, IT'S ALL FLARES, RIGHT? SO, UM, I COULD HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SHOW UP MM-HMM.
UH, SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN REALLY A HIT OR MISS LATELY.
AND THEN THERE SEEMS TO BE A GAP OVERNIGHT BASED ON HAVING TO GET UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO, UM, WHAT THESE FOLKS DO IS TREMENDOUS, LIKE YOU SAID, AND I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THAT.
UM, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE HOUSE, RIGHT.
AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PAY THE BILLS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
GET THE KIDS OFF TO SCHOOL AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO, UM, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZE THINGS.
AND I DON'T REALLY ALWAYS WANT TO DANGLE THE CARROT LIKE THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY IT JUST BUILDS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, TO ALMOST PUT A, A LIKE A LITTLE BIT LEVEL A STEP UP IN THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND, AND BRINGING THAT TO THE TABLE.
HOW OFTEN ARE WE CALLING FOR MUTUAL AID DURING THESE CALLS? WE HAVE NOT HAD TO RELY ON MUTUAL AID YET.
WE HAD ONE INSTANCE WITH SMOKE SHOWING REPORTEDLY FROM A HOUSE.
I AUTOMATICALLY ADDED THEM AND IT WAS, UH, NOTHING.
SO JUST BASED ON THAT, WE DO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC AID PROGRAM IN PLACE.
RIGHT? THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY SUBSIDIZES $20,000.
IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER? YEAH.
SO, BUT WE HAVE IT WITH DISPATCH HERE.
SO CONFIRMED INFORMATION BASED ON THE POLICY, DISPATCH WILL AUTOMATICALLY REACH OUT TO RICHWOOD AND START THEM.
AND THEN ONCE THINGS START TO COME TOGETHER BASED ON RADIO CALLS, WHETHER IT BE POLICE OR EMS THAT GET ON SCENE AND GIVE THOSE RADIOS ACROSS, AND WE START RAMPING IT UP FROM THERE.
BUT THE POLICIES ARE IN PLACE THERE.
WE DO HAVE A COUNTY MUTUAL AID SYSTEM.
WE HAVE RELIED ON THE OTHER FOLKS.
UH, THEY RELY ON US A LOT MORE THAN WE DO THEM.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GO BOTH WAYS.
WELL THEY, THEY HAVE STUFF TOO, BUT THEY'RE ALSO FACING THE SAME CHALLENGES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM AROUND HERE.
AND JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, ANGLETON HAS HAD A PAID STAFF IN PLACE FOR PROBABLY FOUR YEARS NOW.
SO THEY DO, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THERE, BUT THEY GET, YOU KNOW, TASKED WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS DURING THE DAY.
BUT, UM, I WISH I COULD SAY I COULD STAND HERE AND SAY I CAN CALL MUTUAL AID AND I'M GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY MM-HMM.
SO WE REALLY HAVE STAFFING ISSUES AND THERE'S A LOT OF NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED STANDARDS THAT HAVE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE ON SCENE TO DO IT SAFELY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND TO CONTINUE THAT, THAT PROGRAM.
SO ONCE WE RECOGNIZE IT'S A BIGGER EVENT, WE CALL FOR MUTUAL AID, WE GET THOSE PEOPLE ON HERE, SUCH AS RAPID INTERVENTION TEAMS AND STUFF TO THAT NATURE.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT, UH, UH, HAVING A DUAL COMMISSION, LIKE SOME OF THE OFFICERS WITH THE PD, I KNOW LIKE SOME OF THE, UH, BIGGER DEPARTMENTS, DALLAS FORT WORTH, THEY MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE OFFICERS THAT'S FIRE CERTIFIED AND THEY CAN HELP OUT DOING IT, HELP OUT WITH THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WAY TO GET THE, UH, EQUIPMENT
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ON THE SCENE AND GET THERE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE CHIEF? UH, SO HAVE Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION? I'VE NOT TALKED TO THE CHIEF TO THAT NATURE, BUT TO THEIR, UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT THE BURDEN ALL ON THEM, BUT, UH, IT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT SOME OTHER, WHAT WE DO APPRECIATE IS, UH, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW, AND IF WE DROP A HOSE AT A HYDRANT, THEY'LL MAKE THE CONNECTION FOR US.
SO MAYBE WE DON'T SEE 'EM, MAYBE THEY GET THERE LATE, BUT EVERY TIME THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP WITH SOMETHING, I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE DRAGGING HOSE AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR US.
I DON'T, THE DUAL CERTIFICATION, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THAT WOULD WORK OUT WITH EVERYTHING GOING THAT WAY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING GOING FORWARD.
I THINK COUPLE YEARS, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BIGGER PICTURE AND DO THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS TO GO IN AND JUST GETTING THAT, YOU KNOW, TCFP AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THAT QUALIFICATION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF, IS THAT I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS IN LOOKING LONG TERM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND IN MY OPINION, PD EMS FIRE, THAT'S REALLY PART OF OUR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER TO OUR CITIZENS.
SO I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT DIFFERENT WAYS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE A PAID FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF AMAZING VOLUNTEERS AND UH, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT THEM.
UM, BUT I ALSO WANT US TO ALWAYS BE, I HATE THE PHRASE, THIS IS THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT, SO I WANT US TO ALWAYS BE LOOKING.
UM, I'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH HFD BE TRIAGING TRAUMAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND HFD WERE FORCED TO BE ON A BOX, AN EMS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE.
SO, UM, I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO WE PUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SIGN UP TO BE A POLICE OFFICER AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO, THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FIRE EMSI MEAN, THEY'RE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIPS, BUT THEY ALSO, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TASKS.
SO I WANT US TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND, UM, ALSO OF OUR TAXPAYERS.
NOPE, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THINGS THAT TO PURSUE IN A FUTURE.
OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING'S AT A BASE GRADE.
LOOKING AT THINGS GOING FORWARD IS JUST THE STATISTICAL DATA WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
UM, WE HAVE NOT MISSED A BEAT SO FAR.
UM, WE HAVE POSITIVELY JUST BROUGHT FIVE MORE PEOPLE ON THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT HAVE SIGNED UP AND, AND BROUGHT ON.
BUT, UM, WHEN THAT TAKES THOSE OF US AT OUR DIFFERENT OFFICER LEVELS WHO HAVE GOTTEN DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS TO PUT THEM THROUGH A FIRE ACADEMY.
SO WE SPONSOR THE FIRE ACADEMY MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF FF FM, S-F-F-M-A, AND THEN THEY GET THEIR CRITERIA MET WITH OBJECTIVES, BOTH DIDACTIC AND, AND HANDS-ON PRACTICAL TRAINING.
SO WE HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE GETTING THAT DONE, HOPEFULLY AS PROGRAM CONTINUES TO BE MORE, WHERE I HAVE A, A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN DEDICATED TO THE RECRUITMENT SECTION.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS IN GETTING THAT QR CODE PUT ON THE APPLICATIONS PAGE.
YOU'LL SEE IT'S STARTING TO TRAVEL AROUND ON OUR VEHICLES.
WE HAVE A QR CODE THAT THEY CAN INSTANTLY LOG ON IT'S FORM FILLABLE AND IT GOES TO THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT HAS THAT, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OF TAKING CARE OF THAT RECRUITMENT.
BUT BASICALLY I WAS SPEAKING OF, I WASN'T SPEAKING OF THEM TAKING OVER A FIRE TRAINING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MAYBE A SMALLER TRAINING ACADEMY THAT THEY CAN HELP OUT ON THE SCENE.
SORT OF LIKE I'M IN LAW ENFORCEMENT NOW AND THEY TEACHING US HOW TO DO, UH, EMS STUFF BEFORE THEY GET ON THE SCENE AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO SAVE A LIFE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, OUR INSURANCE RATES HAVE A EFFECT ON THE FAR FAR DEPARTMENT RESPONSE AND ABILITY TO RESPOND AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENJOYED, UH, RELATIVELY LOW INSURANCE RATES, FIRE INSURANCE RATES IN TOWN AND, AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
SO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENJOY THAT.
'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PAY HERE OR YOU PAY THERE OR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP PAYING SOMEWHERE.
AND AS THAT ISO HAS SHIFTED, IT HAS FOCUSED A LOT MORE ON WHAT WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION WITH TRAINING AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S SITTING THERE AND RESPONSE TIMES.
SO IT'S KIND OF FUNNY HOW IT SHIFTED OVER THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS.
SO IT'S, UH, IT IS INTERESTING TO TRACK, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE, THE, THE BENEFIT TO YOUR INSURANCE RATES IS, IS TREMENDOUS.
AND THE LAST ISO, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT REVIEW TO COME BACK.
HEY CHIEF, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD, UH, THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING SOMETHING TO GET PROACTIVE.
RIGHT? SOMETHING PROACTIVE AS OPPOSED TO GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE DUTY CREW IDEA, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE ONLY QUESTION, I DON'T WANT OUR GUYS TO GET CAUGHT IN A BIND, DO WE, IS THERE A LINE IN THE SAND WHERE WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT TAXES OR LIKE A 10 99 SO
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THAT THEY DON'T GET CAUGHT? THE WATER BILL? THE WATER BILL ALREADY EXCEEDS THAT.JUST MAKE, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO GET CAUGHT HAVING TO PAY IN 'CAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP 'EM WITH.
WELL, THEY ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SIGN UP FOR IT AND THEY WANNA BE THERE, THAT'S FINE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR IT AND THEY CAN STILL RESPOND.
'CAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO GET TO CERTAIN TIMES WITH THE CURRENT INCENTIVE THAT'S ISSUED THAT THEY DECLINE.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
SO I GOT, UH, A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, AGAIN, THE FOUR PD PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO SIGN UP FOR A SHIFT, UH, OR IT IS JUST ANY FIREMAN OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT ONE OF 'EM HAS TO, HAS TO HAVE SOME CAPABILITY.
AT LEAST ONE HAS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE HAS TO BE ASSISTANT CHIEF OR ONE HAS TO BE THIS OR WHATEVER.
OR IS IT JUST ANY FOUR BODIES? IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? TRAINED TO BE DRIVER OPERATOR INTERIOR.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE FOUR POSITIONS.
THEY ALL, WE, I DID NOT GO TO A FIFTH POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CAPTAIN OR HIRE IN THAT POSITION BECAUSE THEY CAN FILL THAT ROLE AS NECESSARY.
BUT WHAT WE DO TO TRAIN FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE JOBS BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND VOLUNTEERISM AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS DEPARTMENT IS, I DON'T NEED TO SEPARATE.
'CAUSE THEY, THE EXPECTATION WILL BE DRIVER OPERATOR FIREFIGHTERS.
SO, AND THEN AGAIN, THE, THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE'VE GOT, IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING THAT, THAT IF YOU INITIATE THIS, THAT THERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO SIGN UP FOR, UH, ONE OF FOUR SLOTS MM-HMM.
SO EVERYBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA HAVE TO SIGN UP, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH.
SO WE'LL CREATE A CALENDAR WHETHER WE USE OUR CURRENT EMERGENCY REPORTING OR GO TO A GOOGLE CALENDAR RIGHT.
AND THEY WILL SIGN UP FOR THAT SHEET SO IT'S DOCUMENTED SO THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE THAT THERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE FOR OUR, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY LATER.
AND IF THEY FOR WHATEVER REASON, AREN'T ABLE TO MEET THAT COMMITMENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO 'EM? WELL, WE HAVEN'T INITIATED THE SOG YET BASED ON THIS IS IN ITS, UH, INFANTILE STAGES.
BUT THE FIRST WILL BE A VERBAL WARNING.
THE SECOND WILL BE A WRITTEN, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A, UH, SIX MONTH PERIOD PROBATIONARY PERIOD WHERE THEY'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT.
I GOTTA TELL YOU FROM A LAY PERSON, THAT SOUNDS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO MAINTAINING VOLUNTEERS
YOU KNOW, BUT IF I WAS A VOLUNTEER AND YOU SAID HIM WILL WRITE YOU UP, I'D SAY, HERE'S YOUR PEN
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT GOES ON ACROSS ALL ORGANIZATIONS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL.
SO YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, BYLAWS AND CONSTITUTION, WE HAVE STANDARD OPERATING GUIDELINES BY WHAT YOU FOLLOW.
AND YES, IT'S VERY HARD BEING IN A POSITION MM-HMM.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE NECESSARY EVILS.
AND, AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK WE HEARD FROM ALL OF US HERE, BUT, UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I I SAY IT ALL THE TIME, IS I TAKE GREAT PRIDE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, WHEN I MEET WITH OTHER MAYORS AND WE TALK ABOUT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY, IS TO BE ABLE TO STILL SAY WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THAT IT JUST, IT REALLY SHOWS, UH, COMMITMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO WANNA BE INVOLVED, UH, IN THE SAFETY OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GREAT.
WE, AND AGAIN, LIKE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SETH WAS SAYING IS, IS THAT, UH, WE DO GREATLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE VOLUNTEERS.
THE, UH, OTHER THING THAT I ASKED IS THAT, UH, LET'S SEE, IS THE, UH, HAVE YOU, HOW, HOW WELL HAS THIS BEEN RECEIVED FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT? HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OR? I HAVE DISCUSSED IT PRIOR TO BRINGING IT TO MODESTO IN A MEETING WE HAD, I JUST LAID IT OUT, TOLD 'EM WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND MADE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DIRECTION I HAVE TO GO CURRENTLY AS THE CHIEF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING AS CITIZENS AND ET CETERA.
SO, UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY PUSHBACK, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT WAS TO MY FACE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR A SHIFT, JUST KIND OF SPITBALLING HERE, AND WHO'S AVAILABLE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIFT ARE YOUR MORE SENIOR VOLUNTEERS WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY INTERIOR? SO DO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE, OKAY, WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE OF YOU GUYS HERE.
OR HOW DOES, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? D-S-O-G-I REFERRED TO EARLIER, WE'LL DEFINE THAT.
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, SO IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE OF WHOEVER SIGNS UP FOR THESE POSITIONS AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE CERTAIN CRITERIA.
YEAH, I MEAN, I AGAIN, UH, UH, JUST IS ECHOING WHAT'S ALREADY SAID, I THINK IS THAT, UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND STUFF AND TAKE, TRYING TO TAKE AN APPROACH, A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO SEE IF THIS WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
THE ONLY THING, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M, I WOULD SUGGEST, AND THIS IS ME SUGGESTING IS, IS THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AS A, A, A SIX MONTH TRIAL AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND COME BACK AND REEVALUATE IT AND SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED OR, OR IF IT DOESN'T MEET, YOU KNOW, MEET THE OBJECTIVE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND, UH,
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YOU KNOW, MAYBE COME BACK TO US IN THREE MONTHS IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, COME BACK TO US IN THREE MONTHS AND GIVE US A REPORT AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD SOME STRUGGLES, BUT IT'S WORKING OUT.IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKING OUT.
AND IN SIX MONTHS IF YOU COME BACK AND SAY IT'S WORKING GREAT AND SHOW US DATA, IT'S WORKING GREAT, THEN WE COULD GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, SIGN OFF FOR A LONGER PERIOD.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
BUT DATA TRACKING WILL BE THERE.
AND I WANNA THROW ONE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS KIND OF RELATED TO THIS, IS, SO YOU GUYS HAVE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR? YES, MA'AM.
AND THAT IS THE TERM OF CHIEF, CORRECT? THAT'S EVERY POSITION, OFFICE, EVERY POSITION.
HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE ELECTED? 2, 3, 8.
SO MY QUESTION IS, AND I THINK THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM, IS I THINK THAT'S A REALLY SHORT TERM, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE DIFFERING IDEAS ON HOW TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVE.
ONE THING, AND I THINK THIS IS TOTALLY IN THE HANDS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS YOUR INTERNAL RULES AND STUFF.
SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION I'M ASKING IS, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE LONGER TERMS FOR THE CHIEF POSITION, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT PUTS THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF KIND OF MORE FOCUSED ON ELECTIONS THAN IT DOES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THE BIGGER PROBLEMS AT HAND.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD, IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT BACK MM-HMM.
MY, MY OPINION MOVING FORWARD IS THIS POSITION BEING A PAID POSITION WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE, BUILD A LITTLE BIT GREATER MOMENTUM.
AND WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH ANNUAL ELECTIONS.
AND LET ME ASK YOU ALSO, WHEN YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PAID POSITIONS, DOES THAT THEN CHANGE THE METRICS OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET? DOES THAT GET THE STATE MORE INVOLVED? WELL, THERE'S, VERSUS VOLUNTEER, I'M JUST ASKING.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN DO THAT.
UH, BASED ON MR. MOND'S TCFP CERTIFICATIONS.
UNION IS THAT UNION OR NON-UNION? UH, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T MENTION THAT WORD, YOU'RE FINE.
UM, THEY COULD BE MANAGED BY HIM, THEY COULD BE OUT DOING FIRE INSPECTIONS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
KIND OF RECURRING, A LITTLE BIT OF THE COSTS AND, AND DOING THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT THAT'S BIG PICTURE DOWN THE ROAD.
SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, TRY TO MITIGATE THIS PROBLEM.
NOW IF WE HAVE TO GET TO THAT POINT, I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND CHALLENGES AND DON'T SAY THE UNION MARKET PEST.
I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING AGAINST THEM, I JUST, IT, IT CLEANS.
IT'S, IT'S A CLEANER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EVERYBODY WORKING ON THE SAME PAGE WITHOUT HAVING THAT HURDLE.
AND I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD TOO.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, AGAIN, I THINK, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SETH SAID THAT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES FOR, FOR THE CITIZENS OF
AND, UH, WE HOPE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AND HELP ANY WAY WE CAN TO, UH, PROVIDE THEM SOME INCENTIVES TO, UH, FOR THEIR WORK.
AND BELIEVE ME, WE ALL APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, ESPECIALLY ME AS A LEADER OF THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY.
UM, THEY RECOGNIZE WHAT WE GET AND THE HURDLES THAT YOU GUYS GO THROUGH TO GET US THE STUFF THAT'S THERE.
YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THAT THE TOWER TRUCK IS OBVIOUSLY A EXPENSIVE CHALLENGE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE FINISHED FLOOR BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, BARRING ANY OTHER, UH, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT SINCE THEY'RE STILL IN PLACE SOMEHOW.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP.
ALREADY HAVE THE CAPTAIN WORKING ON GUIDELINES AND OPERATIONAL TACTICS ON HOW THAT'S GONNA BE USED.
SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND, UH, WAITING TO SEE THAT COME IN AND, AND MAKE THAT BENEFICIAL.
AND THAT THAT IS, THAT WAS LOOKED UPON BASED ON DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO IT SHOULD DO MORE THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO DO.
WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE DIFFICULTY RECRUITING? IS THERE, SO WE HAVE, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION, AND I'LL, I'LL BREAK IT DOWN REAL QUICK.
THERE'S A SIX MONTH PROBATIONARY PERIOD.
FIREFIGHTER ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT 300 HOURS.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY BOX DOOR ACCESS ON ALL THE APPARATUS.
YOU HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE APPARATUS, YOU HAVE TO PUMP THE APPARATUS THAT HAS PUMPS ON IT.
YOU HAVE TO PASS A TEST ON HOW YOU CAN PASS IT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TEXAS CDL CLASS B LICENSE, YOU HAVE TO GO GET YOUR DOT DONE BY SIX MONTHS.
WE HAVE EXTENDED PROBATIONARY PERIODS FOR TIMES,
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BUT THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY NOT WORKING 18 DAYS IN A ROW, 21 DAYS IN A ROW, 21 NIGHTS, WHATEVER ELSE IT IS TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT COMBINED TOGETHER.AND THEN IT SEEMS TO BE THE TIME THAT JUST TO INCREASE.
AND THIS ISN'T STUFF THAT THE LAKE JACKSON FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE UP.
THIS IS FOLLOWING THE NFPA, THIS IS FOLLOWING THIS, THE SOUTHERN FIREFIGHTER AND FIRE MARSHALS ASSOCIATION STANDARDS, STATE OF TEXAS STANDARDS SO THAT WE'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO SCBAS AND FIT TESTS AND, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLAYERS THAT COME INTO MIND.
AND THEN THE ODDBALL TIMES OF CALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WE'VE HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES IN WHAT WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS FOR AND WHAT PERCENTAGES PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE JUST BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON.
BUT IT'S, AND THEN THERE'S ANNUAL REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN PERCENT OF CALLS YOU MAKE.
SO YOUR HEART REALLY HAS TO BE IN IT, GET IT DONE.
YOU, YOU GOTTA SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
SO, REALLY MY LAST THING IS I THINK THAT FOR MYSELF, AND I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, I CAN SAY THAT WE WILL BE FIERCELY PROTECTIVE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS, UH, GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH TO BE VOLUNTEERS TO, UM, PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND OUR STAFF.
UM, DO YOU FORESEE IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED THAT IT IN ANY WAY CHANGES THE ELIGIBILITY OF ANY OF OUR CURRENT VOLUNTEERS? NO, NOT AT ALL.
IF COUNSEL IS FAVORABLE OF DOING, UH, TRYING, UH, THIS AS A, I GUESS AS A TRIAL PROGRAM, UH, BASED ON THE CHIEF'S NUMBER, WE ESTIMATE IT WOULD BE ABOUT 17,000.
THIS BUDGET, YOU KNOW, BUDGET YEAR AND A LITTLE OVER 30,000, UH, NEXT YEAR.
BUT, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO, UH, PROVIDE THE FUNDING THIS YEAR, THEN WE WOULD, UM, WE COULD, UH, LET HIM IMPLEMENT IT AND THEN WE COULD AMEND THE BUDGET, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, TO INCLUDE THE 17,000.
SO WHEN THEY ASKED FOR REIMBURSEMENTS, THE FUNDS ARE THERE AND WE WOULD JUST, UH, INCREASE THE VOLUNTEER PAPER PROGRAM, UH, 17,000 OUT OF, UH, THIS YEAR BUDGET.
AND WE WOULD DRAW DOWN FROM THE MONEY THAT, UM, WE'VE NOT ALLOCATED FROM THE INDUSTRIAL DIS UH, THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT REVENUES.
THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE, ARE THERE INDUSTRIAL GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE LOCALLY? THERE'S OH, INDUSTRIAL THERE, THERE'S GRANTS FOR FIREFIGHTERS, UH, FOR FULL TIME.
IF WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND IT'S USED, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO YEARS PAST WHEN WE DID A COPS GRANT WHERE YOU, IF YOU GET IT, YOU GET A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING AND THEN THE NEXT IT IT RATCHET DOWN 75 50 UNTIL YOU DO MOVE OVER.
I THINK THERE'S A SIMILAR GRANT ALSO FOR CITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING, UH, FULL.
BUT I'M FULLTIME I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM DOW, B, SF, SOME OF THE IN INDUSTRIES AROUND HERE.
DO THEY OFFER, I DON'T KNOW, DO THEY OFFER ANYTHING TO OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO SUPPORT THEM? ANYTHING THAT WE COULD, DOLLARS THAT WE COULD LOOK, LOOK FOR? YEAH.
YOU HAVE TO WRITE THAT GRANT REQUEST.
YOU'D HAVE TO TELL 'EM WHAT IT'S FOR.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF WHERE IT'S GOING.
YOU KNOW, ARE WE MODERATING IT? WHOEVER'S DOING THAT.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN THERE.
BUT OUR LAKE JACKSON FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT RECEIVING ANY KIND OF, ANY KIND OF DONATION FROM ANY IN INDUSTRY NO.
AND IF MR. MODESTO ALLUDED TO EARLIER, THERE'S THIS ASSISTANCE FOR FIREFIGHTERS GRANT.
IT COMES OUT ANNUALLY AND BASED ON THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S CERTAIN GOALS INSIDE THERE.
LIKE THEY SET A, THIS IS THE PACKAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT THERE'S, IT CAN ALSO OFFSET SOME OF THIS, BUT THERE'S ALSO A FEE FOR GETTING IT, UH, ENTERED WRITING THE GRANT AND THEN THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE FULFILLED BY THE REQUESTER.
SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES IN THERE AS WELL.
BUT THERE IS AN OPTION TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS PAID THIS PAID PER CALL PROGRAM.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STARTED BEING MORE PROACTIVE ABOUT AND CITY STUFF IS LOOKING FOR GRANTS AND THINGS AND WAYS TO BRING DOLLARS BACK IS UM, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO, DO SO.
WELL, WE'LL PUT THAT ON OUR, TO-DO LIST TO LOOK AND SEE.
SO LONG AS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT, DO YOU JUST NEED A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
AND THEN WE'LL, UH, IF IT PASSES, THEN WE'LL MOVE, UH, FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE NEXT BUDGET, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE 2324 BUDGET FUND.
THE LAKE JACKSON FIRE DEPARTMENT DUTY CREW PROGRAM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE CAVEAT WITH THAT, THAT IT IS A TRIAL PROGRAM.
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IN THREE MONTHS.JUST SEE HOW WE'RE DOING AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CATCH IT, CATCH IT AT THE BEGINNING IF WE NEED TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OR CAN WE GO TO FOUR? 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE ME A MONTH TO GET THE SOG IN PLACE AND GET IT ALL ADOPTED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
MAYBE WE OUGHT TO DO SIX MONTH TRIAL.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK BEFORE WE GET TO THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS.
AND SO, BUT I MEAN, FOUR MONTHS IS FINE.
SO IS THAT RIGHT TO ADD THAT TO YOURS? WHAT UP AMENDMENT? SURE.
SO CAN WE CLARIFY THIS MOTION? YES, PLEASE.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE, UH, THE AMENDING THE 2020, THE 2324 BUDGET TO FUND THE, UH, LAKE JACKSON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT DUTY CREW PROGRAM FOR A, UH, TRIAL PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS WITH A REPORT BACK IN FOUR MONTHS ON, UM, HOW WELL IT'S DOING OR RESULTS.
SO WE'LL FUND IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE SAYING THIS MOTION IS FUNDED FOR SIX MONTHS.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL REEVALUATE IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANKS EVERYONE.
[3. Discuss and consider authorizing the City Manager to get an appraisal and consider selling the property at 608 Willow Drive that leads into Suggs Field. –Robin Hyden]
UH, MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, GET AN APPRAISAL AND CONSIDER SELLING THE PROPERTY AT SIX, UH, 6 0 8 WILLOW DRIVE, UH, THAT LEADS INTO SUGGS FIELD.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME JUST BECAUSE THAT ENTRANCE WAS IN SUCH POOR CONDITION.
UM, IT'S NOT ONE THAT THE LEAGUE, UM, WHEN WE GOT READY TO HAVING TO CLOSE IT, WE HAD SPOKE WITH THE BRAESWOOD LITTLE LEAGUE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE ONES WHO HAVE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY NOW.
THEY SAID THEY DID NOT NEED THAT ENTRANCE.
SO WHEN WE TOOK IT TO PARKS BOARD, THEY, AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN NEEDED AND DECIDED, YOU KNOW, TO PERMANENTLY CLOSE IT FOR NOW.
SO THEY DO RECOMMEND, UM, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO GO IN AND SEE, GET AN APPRAISAL TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS NOT CORRECTLY PARKLAND THOUGH.
NO, THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY PARKLAND.
THE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, IT WAS PURCHASED, UH, YEARS AGO BEFORE I HAD EVEN COME ON WHEN BABE RUTH WAS, UM, DOING THOSE, UM, STATE TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS ANOTHER ENTRANCE.
BUT IT REALLY, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S NOT THE, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING.
THE REASON I WAS ASKING YOU WAS TAKEN TO THE PARKS BOARD FOR THEIR BOAT.
SO JUST BECAUSE IT WAS USED FOR THAT PARK WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE REALLY WANT BE.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS OPENED BECAUSE OF THE PARK, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
I MAKE SURE THAT CAN BE ONLY USED FOR A MM-HMM,
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOT A PARK.
YES, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY PARKLAND, WE HAVE MR. RILEY THAT, UH, SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? MM-HMM.
I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT 1 0 4 DOGWOOD FROM THE PROPERTY MENTIONED HERE IN, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND WHAT I'M JUST ASKING THE CITY IS, IS IF THEY DO DECIDE TO SELL, I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE OR NOT, IS THERE A WAY THAT IT CAN BE ZONED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY BUSINESS? AND IF NOT, CAN I ASK THE, THE CITY TO CONSIDER HOLDING ONTO THIS PROPERTY TO ENSURE THAT IT PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT IS? WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY ZONED AT? SO CURRENTLY IT IS ZONED B ONE.
AND UNDER THE B ONE ZONING, THESE ARE THE PERMITTED USES.
UM, WHICH IS THAT I PRETTY MUCH THAT ROW OF BUSINESSES, UH, OFFICE AND OFFICE BUILDINGS, MEDICAL OFFICES, STUDIOS, RETAIL SHOPS, SERVICE SHOPS DRIVE-IN EATING PLACES, GROCERIES, DAYCARE, FACILITIES, AUTO REPAIR, MOBILE FOOD SERVICE, VENDOR COURTS, AND RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES.
THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONE IS THE ZONING.
AND, AND, AND MY COMMENT ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY, IT'S, TO ME IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE YOUNG, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OLD CAN ENJOY, NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC.
SO BE ONE KEPT IT FROM LIKE YOU BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND PUT A STORAGE FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YES.
WE HAD THIS ISSUE A WHILE BACK WITH OVER BY HG, IF I REMEMBER.
THERE IS A, THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL.
UH, BUT THESE HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY PLANNERS AND SHERRY DISCOUNTS ALSO HAVE TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USES OR JUST PLANNERS? NO, THAT'S JUST PLANNERS CONDITIONAL USES.
SUPERVISED LIVING FACILITIES, CHURCHES
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AND RECREATIONAL BUSINESSES.THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE ALREADY HAD A RE REQUISITION BUSINESS REC RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT AND THEY PUT THOSE BATTING CAGES IN.
SO WHEN YOU SAY STUDIOS, WHAT UH, WHAT IS THE CLASSIFICATION OF A STUDIO? LIKE ART VALUES? THIS IS KIND OF LIKE AN ART STUDIO, A SMALL PLACE MUSIC STUDIO, CERAMICS AND STUFF.
IT COULD BE A DANCE STUDIO TOO.
I'M SORRY, WHAT? TATTOO PARLOR? NO, THAT'S NOT A STUDIO.
OH, THAT'S, AND THAT HAS A SPECIFIC DEFINITION, RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I MEAN, STEP ONE IS JUST THE APPRAISAL.
THAT'S ALL YOU'RE SEEKING AUTHORITY TO DO RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? THAT'S ALL WE'RE WANTING TO DO.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PERMANENTLY CLOSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE BECAUSE OF IT, THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN.
SO, AND EVEN WITH ONLY A APPRAISAL, UH, COUNSEL CAN MAKE THE DECISION NOT TO SELL IT, TO HOLD ONTO IT OR YOU COULD, UH, GO OUT BID AND TRY TO SELL IT AND NOT GET A BID OF JUST SET A RESERVE AND DO THE WHOLE SET A RESERVE.
UH, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR COUNSEL TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION BASED ON, UH, MORE INFORMATION.
AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF IF WE DON'T SELL IT IS TO GO IN AND TAKE THE ASPHALT OUT OR I WOULD THINK, UM, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING TO PUT TO REPAY IT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, STARTED THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, WE JUST DON'T REALLY USE IT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE YOUTH OR ANYTHING.
IT WAS MORE OF A BACK INTEREST FOR THE GARBAGE TRUCKS TO, TO MOVE INTO THE RESTROOMS. YEAH.
AND SO WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST ON A DRIVEWAY THAT ONLY WE, WE USE, WE USED THAT, UH, TO STORE DIRT, DIDN'T WE? DURING THE CONSTRUCTION REPAIRS? YEAH.
UH, UH, MAYBE I, I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S, WE'VE BUILT SOME MOUNDS TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING.
WE STARTED, WAS INSIDE, INSIDE THE PARK AREA AND I THINK CONSTRUCTION WE'RE DOING ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND WE YEAH.
AND I THINK IT WAS MORE TO THE SIDE WHERE YOU COULD STILL USE IT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THE WAY IT GOES.
BUT YEAH, I, I DO REMEMBER SEEING SOME STUFF THERE AT ONE TIME, BUT THERE WAS STILL THE DRIVE IN, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT BLOCKED OFF.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE A SMALL LITTLE CAR.
SO, SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH LEAST, UH, GOING FORWARD AND GETTING A APPRAISAL? YES.
WE'LL, WE'LL ALSO SUGGEST FOR YOU IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH SELLING IT, YOU HEARD THE KIND OF THE LIST OF WHAT COULD GO THERE.
UM, JUST KIND OF STAY TUNED WITH IT WITH LIKE PLANNERS, RIGHT? AND YOU'LL KIND OF HAVE A BETTER, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, THIS WILL FIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD AT THAT POINT.
OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GET AN APPRAISAL.
[4. Discuss and consider the amended election sign policy for campaign signs on city-owned property. –Sally Villarreal]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR AS DISCUSSING AGAINST SARAH.UM, AMENDING, UH, ELECTION SIGNED POLICY FOR CAMPAIGN SIGNS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SALLY, YOU WANT TO, I'M SORRY, DID YOU GO ON THE LAST ONE? UH, WE GAVE DIRECTION.
SO LAST, UH, COUNCIL MEETING WE DISCUSSED THE, THE POLICY AND COUNCIL MEMBER SETH HAD SUGGESTED ADDING, UM, A LITTLE BIT ON THERE TO HER RESPONSIBILITIES IF OR WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE, IF SOME DAMAGE IS CAUSED BY, UH, CAMPAIGN SIGNS FROM THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE LEFT OUT.
UH, AS WELL AS ADDING SOME NOTES TO THE MAP MAP.
SO THOSE WERE ADDED, UM, THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE AND EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS THE SAME.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS AFTER THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE PER OUR REQUEST, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
ITEM FOUR, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, AMEND THE ELECTION SIGN POLICY FOR CAMPAIGN SIGNS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY AS WRITTEN SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
[5. Approve the emergency purchase of a new ambulance cab/chassis with a patient compartment remount from Frazer, Ltd. through HGAC contract #AM10-23 in an amount not exceeding $141,000. – Will Ammons]
MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE IS APPROVED THE EMERGENCY, UH, PURCHASE OF A NEW AMBULANCE CAB CHASSIS WITH THE, UH, WITH A PATIENT, UH, COMPARTMENT REMOUNT FROM FRASER AT LEAST LIMITED, UH, THROUGH HEAC CONTRACT AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EX, NOT EXCEEDING $141,000 WILL.UM, THIS ITEM IS TO REPLACE THE AMBULANCE THAT WAS DAMAGED IN THE CRASH BACK IN FEBRUARY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS A, A BRAND NEW UNIT THAT WAS DAMAGED TO THE POINT THAT OUR INSURANCE DEEMED IT A TOTAL LOSS.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THE PATIENT COMPARTMENT WAS, UH, WAS NOT AFFECTED BY THE CRASH
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AND IS ABLE TO BE REMOUNTED.UH, THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT IS GONNA BE 140,500.
SO WE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE, UH, COST EXCEEDING 141.
AND WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, A, OUR FIRST REIMBURSEMENT FROM OUR INSURANCE CARRIER FOR THE CAP CHASSIS.
ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, WE'LL SUBMIT, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION COST OF, UH, OF THE BO OF THE BOX, UM, ON THAT.
AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY SATISFIED OUR DEDUCTIBLE AT $5,000.
SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE A, A SECOND DEDUCTIBLE.
THEY JUST COULDN'T REIMBURSE US UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THE COST WAS FOR THE REMOUNT AND WE WILL HAD JUST RECEIVED THAT ON, UM, FRIDAY.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THAT TO, TO JOSE, SO HE COULD FORWARD THAT ONTO OUR INSURANCE.
I'M SCARED TO ASK WHAT THE TIMELINE IS ON THIS
UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE QUOTING AROUND 90 DAYS.
SO WITHIN THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, WE SHOULD HAVE, HAVE THE UNIT AVAILABLE FOR PICKUP.
AND WE'RE GETTING THE CHASSIS WE WANT, OR ARE WE HAVING TO JUST SETTLE FOR A DODGE OR, UM, THIS CHASSIS IS GONNA BE A GMC CHASSIS.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S THE, THE SAME CHASSIS JUST UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.
UH, THE CHASSIS THAT WAS DAMAGED WAS A CHEVROLET.
AND AGAIN, THIS ACCIDENT, UH, UM, THE LATE JACKSON E MS DRIVER WAS, I MEAN, THEY, THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING MORE TO BE SAFE.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE GOING 27 MILES AN HOUR PROCEEDING CAUTIOUSLY, UH, I GUESS RIGHT THERE AT THE, UH, UNDERPASS HERE AT, UH, OAK OAK DRIVE.
THE DRIVER WAS DOING NINE MILES AN HOUR WHEN THE CRASH OCCURRED, IT WAS IN THE, IN THE INTERSECTION.
THERE WAS NO, NO TIME AT ALL TO REACT.
DID WE HAVE A PATIENT, WAS THERE A PATIENT ON BOARD? I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PATIENT ON BOARD, YES, THERE WAS A PATIENT.
NO, NOT, NOT HARM TRANSFERRED AND WENT ON WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO.
ANY QUESTION WE GET REIMBURSE BACK FROM THE, UH, OTHER INSURANCE COMPANY THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN TML INSURANCE.
THEY'LL SUB, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SUBRATE GET DEDUCTIBLE BACK IF, UH, IF THEY
UH, IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, UM, THEN, UH, YES, WE WOULD GET OUR, UH, DEDUCTIBLE BACK.
THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, BUT SOMETIMES THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF A NEW AMBULANCE CAB CHASSIS WITH THE PATIENT IN APARTMENT REMOUNT FROM FRAZIER LIMITED THROUGH HGAC CONTRACT, UH, AM ONE ZERO DASH 23 IN AN AMOUNT, NOT EXCEEDING $141,000.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES.
[6. New Business Update – David Walton]
MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX.GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I DO HAVE ANY FOOLS FOR YOU TODAY.
UM, MR. HE'S SUPER YUMMY IS OPEN, AND FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE, IT IS YUMMY.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SUPER PART.
SO I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY THE, UH, CAVENDERS WAS OPEN.
NO, WELL, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WE DO ACTUALLY, WE, WE, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION FROM CAVENDERS.
THAT PROJECT IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THE WORKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US SIT BACK AND SCRATCH OUR HEADS AND, AND WONDER WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS, BUT OF COURSE, WE DON'T LIVE IN, IN THE CAVENDERS OF THE MALL'S WORLD.
AND SO THEY'RE FINISHING AND CROSSING THEIR T'S AND DOTTING THEIR I'S AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET THE STORY THAT THEY WANT.
BUT IT IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THE WORKS FROM, FROM ALL INDICATIONS.
UH, HOME TWO SUITES IS PLUGGING RIGHT ALONG, UH, THE VILLAS APARTMENTS.
THAT WAS ONE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT EARLIER THIS YEAR.
BUT THAT, UH, HAD, THEY BROUGHT IN SOME, A NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THAT ONE IS PROGRESSING ALONG VERY WELL.
NOW ALSO, THAT'S BEHIND BOOKINGS.
A CITIZEN ASKED ME ABOUT THAT.
SO PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR,
THAT'S WHAT THE SIGN STILL SAYS.
SO
HOW FAR, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE WALMART REMODEL COMPLETION? I'M A LITTLE TIRED OF THAT ONE MYSELF.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYTHING IS.
SO WALMART IS KIND OF ITS OWN LITTLE ANIMAL BECAUSE, UM, THEY HAD COME IN WITH, WITH A GRANDER PLAN, AND THEN THEY HAD SCALED BACK THEIR GRANDER PLAN, AND NOW THEY, THE GRANDER PLAN, WHICH WAS INCLUDING THE, UM, ADDITION OF THE EXTENDED CURBSIDE, IS NOW BACK ON THE TABLE.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A CONVERSATION OF PLANNERS TOMORROW, UH, AS, AS WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING.
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REMODEL PORTION, YEAH, ALL OF US, WE GO INTO WALMART, WE CAN'T FIND WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE IT'S MOVED FROM THE DAY BEFORE.UH, BUT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING A MAY 15TH GRAND REOPENING.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE BEFORE MAY 15TH, THEY WILL HAVE FINISHED MOVING EVERYTHING AROUND AND, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO FIND YOUR, YOUR STUFF COUNCIL MEMBER SAPP PLUS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, THEY, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW OFTEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE UPDATING THEIR ONLINE APP, BUT, UH, THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY GOOD.
AND AS FAR AS THE MAP INSTORE MAP, THEY'RE A CONVENIENCE STORE AT 4 4 80 THIS WAY.
WAS WAS RIGHT IN BETWEEN RICOCHETS AND FIRST STATE BANK.
YOU'VE GOT THIS, THIS PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE AT FOUR 80 THIS WAY.
YOU'VE ALSO GOT A PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE AT THE CORNER OF, UH, 2004 AND 3 32.
BOTH OF THOSE WE'VE ARE, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
WE ARE STILL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR APPROVAL ON THEIR, THEIR DOCUMENTATIONS.
UM, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA CRAM A CONVENIENCE STORE, NOT A BUCKY'S, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A CONVENIENCE STORE RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE OLD RICOCHETS AND THE FIRST STATE BANK.
THE ONE ON 2004 WILL ALLOW BIG TRUCKS TO FUEL LIKE DUMP TRUCKS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DAVID? COMMENTS, CONCERNS? NO, THANK YOU.
I WORE MY POWER YELLOW SHIRT FOR YOU TODAY, BUT, UH, MR. UH, R'S NOT HERE TO ENJOY IT.
[7. Staff updates]
TO STAFF UPDATES.WELL, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ERIC WILSON, IF HE'LL COME UP.
ERIC, UH, STARTED, UH, TODAY, UH, APRIL 1ST.
UH, THIS WAS HIS START DATE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN HE FIRST WAS WITH US.
HE STARTED ACTUALLY ON APRIL 1ST.
UH, ALSO ERIC, UH, COMES FROM US, UH, COMES, UH, FROM THE, UH, GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY, UH, WHERE HE JUST, UH, LEFT, BUT HE IS RETURNING, UH, HE WAS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FROM 2018 TO 2020 20, UH, AND LEFT TO THE GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY.
BUT NOW HE'S, UH, BACK WITH US.
HE HAS A VERY, UH, LENGTHY, UH, CAREER.
I'VE, UH, GIVEN YOU HIS RESUME THERE, SO YOU COULD SEE, UH, BUT QUITE EXTENSIVE AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM BACK.
COUNSEL, I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FROM MR. MUNDO AND MIA FOR LETTING ME BE PART OF THE TEAM AGAIN, UH, AS 30 YEARS IN, IN THE MUNICIPAL UTILITIES SECTOR, THUS FAR, BEING AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF, OF MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS, UH, I COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER PLACE TO CLOSE OUT MY CAREER.
AND I HAVE MADE THAT COMMITMENT TO, UH, THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP HERE THAT I DO PLAN TO BE HERE TILL JUNE 1ST, 2030.
UH, OF COURSE, LOTTERY AND BUSES EXEMPTION DOES APPLY IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO, UH, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE AND, AND HOPEFULLY CAN HELP THE TEAM AND GREAT, WELCOME.
WE GOT GREAT BUSES IN LUKE JACKSON.
AND JUST DON'T BUY THE LOTTERY.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE LOTTERY TO WIN.
BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT A POSITIVE SPIN ON IT, NOT JUST SOMEBODY'S GOTTA WIN.
ALRIGHT, THE OTHER ITEM I DIDN'T DO A COUNCIL COMMUNICATION, UH, MILFORD, CAN YOU GO TO THE MAP THERE? GOSH, I'M NOT WEARING MY GLASSES, SO I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING WHEN WE'RE SUBMITTING.
UH, COUNCIL GAVE US THE AUTHORITY TO SUBMIT FOR TWO GRANTS, AND WE HIRED, UH, KIMLEY HORN.
THE FIRST GRANT IS THE SS FOUR A GRANT, WHICH ARE, UM, ENTRY IS, UH, THIS WEEK, I THINK WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.
THE SECOND ONE IS A, UM, PLANNING GRANT WITH HCAC.
WE INITIALLY HAD A VERY LARGE GRANT THAT INCLUDED THE MALL AREA DOWNTOWN, AND THIS AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IT'S, I THINK IT'S EASIER ACTUALLY TO SEE ON THE TV SCREEN THAN IT IS ON THE PROJECTOR.
AFTER TALKING TO, UM, STAFF WITH KIMBERLY HORN OVER A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE, THEY FELT THAT THE PLANNING ERROR THAT WE HAD THROWN OUT WAS TOO LARGE ACTUALLY TO GET FUNDED.
THEY RECOMMENDED, UH, MORE OF A FOCUSED, UH, GRANT.
SO WE'VE KIND OF RE UH, REVAMPED AND GONE BACK TO OUR, MAYBE OUR ORIGINAL HOPE OF LOOKING AT PLANTATION DRIVE AS A CORRIDOR STUDY.
AND SO WE'VE ADDED, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE LOOKED AT THE SHOPPING AREA AND PLANTATION, AND THEN WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS WE'VE INCLUDED 3 32 TO LOOK AT CONNECTING AND GOING DOWN Y POND AND INCLUDING, UM, WHAT IS ON OUR MA PARKS MASTER PLAN TO MAKE THIS A CENTRAL PARK ON THIS SIDE OF THE, UH,
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OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.AND THEN THE BACK OF, UH, THE HEB PUD, WHICH IS STILL HAS A LOT AVAILABLE FOR IT TO DEVELOP AND TRYING TO MAKE THESE TWO CONNECTIONS.
AND REALITY IS, WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO IS SEE HOW WE COULD REVAMP, UH, UM, THE PLANTATION CORRIDOR AND CONNECT IT TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, OVER THE FUTURE.
AND THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL, UH, GRANT APPLICATION.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER, IT WOULD BE A, WHAT THEY DEEM AS A FOCUSED, UH, A FOCUS STUDY.
AND IT, AND IT KEYS OFF OF CONNECTIVITY TOO.
IT'S CONNECTING, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE SIDE OF TOWN TO, TO DOWNTOWN AND STUFF.
SO IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY KEY FOR THESE GRANTS IS THE CONNECTIVITY, UH, AND DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION ALSO.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY LIKE THE, THE SCALE, THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'RE SUGGESTING HERE.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T TAKE IT TO OAK DRIVE IS JUST BECAUSE IT GETS VERY TIGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE TO PUT A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL OR ANY, WE'RE HERE, WE HAVE HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY AND PARK AND PARK CITY PARKWAY.
SO WE HAVE MORE SPACE TO THINK OF MORE IDEAS.
UM, THEY'RE ON, UH, TRYING TO CONNECT.
AND IT GOES BACK TO A VERY LONG TIME AGO, THERE WAS AN IDEA TO PUT SIDEWALKS ALONG THAT AREA.
3 32 UP CLOSER TO THE HOMES AND STUFF.
IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A BRIDGE OVER THERE.
IT'S GOT THAT CONCRETE, UH, I GUESS WE GOT THAT WAS A, IT LOOKS LIKE A CONCRETE FROM AN OVERPASS OR SOMETHING, BUT ANYWAY, FOR A BRIDGE THERE.
BUT, UH, IT GETS BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL PLAN OF TRYING TO GET THAT CONNECTIVITY, UH, ACROSS THE CITY.
BILL, DO YOU REMEMBER THE, THE DEADLINE FOR THIS GRANT SUBMITTAL? IT'S MAY, I THINK THIS ONE WAS MAY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, UH, UH, BEFORE WE WORK ON OUR, UH, SUBMISSION, UH, ON THIS ONE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A, UM, A 350, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT THAT WE ARE ESTIMATING ON THE PLANNING, UH, SIDE.
OUR MATCHING SHARE WOULD BE 70, IT MAY SCALE DOWN.
WELL, I HAVE TO, SINCE WE'RE REDUCING THE SCOPE.
UH, BUT STILL WE HAVE THAT PLUGIN AT, AT A A THREE 50.
THE, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS ON THIS ONE IS THAT IT WORKS OUT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, MA MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, IN 2002 WHERE MOST OF THE TIME WAS SPENT ON TRYING TO BUILD CONSENSUS ON WHAT WAS NEEDED.
AND THAT TAKES A, BUT DOES THIS LITTLE CROSSOVER AREA HERE, THAT'S JO, THAT'S Y POND.
JO POND, BUT THIS COME FROM DIXIE DRIVE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE OLD HEB WAS AT RIGHT HERE.
AND SO THEN PLANTATION DRIVE, THEN YOU COME UP, UH, ALONG 3, 3, 2, WHERE YOU HAVE THAT WIDE SPACE LIKE MODESTA WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UH, AND THEN HIT YO POND AND THEN COME DOWN.
YO PINE, YO POND IS WIDE THERE, SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL IF YOU HAD TO IN, INTO THE STREET.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LOOK AT AND, AND ANYWAY, DO THE CONNECTIVITY THERE.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THEY'RE GONNA LOOK INTO IS THE, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO CONNECTIVITY IS LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING, UH, CROSSING OVER HERE AND SOMEWHERE DOWN HERE FOR CONNECTIVITY BACK INTO THIS SIDE OF TOWN FROM THIS TRAIL.
BUT THEY, THEY KNOW THESE ARE GONNA BE A CHALLENGE WITH THIS, WITH TDO, BUT THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK WE WOULD ALSO ASK 'EM IF THEY CAN STUDY THE, UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT MANY TIMES.
THE RIGHT TURN LANE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND IN THE CROSSING OVER THERE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO CONNECTIVITY FOR, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
GETTING TO TOWN, BUT ALSO GETTING PEOPLE TO, UH, THINGS THAT THEY NEED.
SO THIS SIDE OF TOWN COULD, COULD DO A HIKE AND BIKE OR WHATEVER OVER HERE TO, UH, THE BUCKY SHOPPING CENTER OR AGAIN, TO THESE OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS BACK OVER THIS WAY.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING THEY'RE GONNA LOOK INTO TO THAT.
THEY BIKE AND HEIGHT TRAIL ON OYSTER CREEK DRIVE IS VERY WELL USED.
IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE USING IT.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SURPRISE YOU.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID GET THE GRANT, IT'S LIKE, OH, THE AREA'S MUCH SMALLER THAN WE THOUGHT.
UH, THAT THAT'S THE REASON THEY BEHIND IT.
THEY JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TOO LARGE AND THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET FUNDING.
UH, AND THE LAST ITEM, UH, WAS THE STREET ASSESSMENT.
UH, I KNOW THE LAST TIME YOU HAD, UH, THE DATA PRESENTED, WE WILL GIVE THAT MORE, UH, DETAIL, BUT WE'LL PUT THAT, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE CIP DISCUSSION WORKSHOP.
AND THE FIRST HALF OF THAT WILL, UH, BE SPENT ON, UM, DISCUSSING THE STREET ASSESSMENT, ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS, UH, LOOKING AT OUR RECOMMENDATION AS WE MOVE
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FORWARD, UH, USING THE DATA ON, I GUESS REALLY OUR 1.5 MILLION FOR PANEL REPLACEMENTS AND RECOMMENDATION THEREAFTER.AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE CIP FOR GENERAL AND UTILITY.
BUT, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE WORKSHOPS, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD, UH, SPEND THE FIRST HALF, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE STREET ASSESSMENT DATA.
UH, ACTION ITEMS. I HAD, UH, UH, BRING BACK ITEM TWO IS BRING BACK, UH, THE 2324 BUDGET AMENDMENT ON THE 15TH MEETING APRIL 15TH.
AND THEN, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BRING BACK AN, YOU'RE GONNA GO A, UH, DO AN APPRAISAL.
I DOUBT YOU'LL HAVE ONE BY APRIL 15TH.
SO YOU'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT MAY DATE.
YEAH, IT'LL BE A WHILE FOR ME.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONES I THINK I HAD THAT, UH, YEAH.
WE HAD ALSO, UH, NOT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT UM, WE'LL SEE ALSO, WE'LL START LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S, UH, ANY GRANTS OUT THERE FOR P CALL PROGRAM.
WE NEED TO KEEP, YEAH, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF SEARCHING.
[8. Construction/Development Updates]
UH, ITEM EIGHT, CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT UPDATES.SO I WANT TO BELABOR THIS ONE.
JUST LET ME KNOW WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU, UH, HAVE HAIR AND HAD PROBLEMS WITH.
AND I WILL TRY TO, THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, THOSE ROSE BUSHES DOWNTOWN ARE LOOKING VERY NICE.
OH, DID Y'ALL REPLACE THEM?
JUST THE PART OF THE NEW, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, REPLACING THE, UH, THE LANS THAT, UH, GOT BARR ARE NOT REPLACED.
I THINK IT, IT IS GONNA HOLD UP WELL DOWN THERE.
GET PEOPLE OUT OF TRAFFIC TO PUT TORN.
AND THE WEATHER HAS REALLY COOPERATED FOR THOSE ROSES.
AND THE PUNCH HAS THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS WENT OUT TODAY TO THE CONTRACTOR FOR DOWNTOWN? THERE WAS A LIST OF PUNCH LIST.
THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS WENT OUT THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS, I'VE ALSO INSTRUCTED, UH, ERIC'S CREW ON THE CODE THAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING BACK NOW THAT, UH, TO OUR REGULAR SIGN ORDINANCE, SINCE CONSTRUCTION'S OVER, WE CAN GO BACK WITH, UM, RIGHT.
THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE BANNER ON THE SIGNS.
UH, THAT'S ABOUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE OF DOWNTOWN IS THE FACT THAT, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PROCURE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE SIGN, UH, ATTACHMENTS OR THE SIGN CONNECTIONS TO THE POLES THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN FOR STREET SIGN.
THEY, FOR A WHOLE YEAR, WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THE THING.
THEY SENT US THE WRONG STUFF AND THEY WOULDN'T, UH, AND THEY CAN'T GIVE US ANY, ANY TIME OFF OR ANYTHING.
SO WE, UH, WE TOLD 'EM NOT JUST TO KEEP IT BACK.
SO WE'RE FABRICATING THOSE THINGS OURSELVES IN A LOCAL FABRICATION.
AND FOR NOW, Y'ALL PUT SOME TEMPORARY STREET SIGNS? THEY ARE, YEAH.
THEY ARE PUTTING SOME, THEY'RE NOT AT ALL, AT ALL INTERSECTIONS, BUT THEY'RE IN LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT STREETS, UH, THEY ARE.
100 BLOCK OF, ANYWAY, A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AT THE ONE OH BLOCK, ONE 100 BLOCK OF, ANYWAY.
OH, THAT'S WHERE THE UH, THAT'S WHERE THE WATERLINE PROJECT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IT'SS A REPLACEMENT OF THE SANITARY SEWER LINE, I'M SORRY, NOT WATERLINE.
AND YOU'LL SEE SOME BRIDGE CROSSINGS, UH, OR HUMPS THAT HAVE, THEY'VE BEEN PUT IN THERE IN ORDER TO PASS THE, UH, DRAINAGE PIPE UNDERNEATH THAT WHILE THEY'RE BYPASSING THE SANITARY SEWER BACK.
UH, WHAT'S THAT 15 INCH SANITARY SEWER? CORRECT.
IT'S BEING, UH, IT'S BEING REPLACED NOW.
ARE WE REPLACING IT OR ARE WE DOING A PIPE BUSTER? IT'S A PER, IT'S A COMBINATION OF OPEN CUT AND PIPE BURSTING.
YEAH, I REMEMBER YOU SENT, Y'ALL SENT OUT A COMMUNICATION ABOUT IT.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE UPDATES Y'ALL ARE GIVING ON STREET CLOSURES FOR, UH, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO HOW'S THAT GOING OVER THERE? IT'S GOING VERY WELL.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY COMPLAINTS.
UH, THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE ALWAYS VERY APPRECIATIVE AS, UH, GIVING THEM NOTIFICATION THERE.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY ORIGINALLY WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING IT DURING THE SPRING BREAK.
SO, UH, WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT FURTHER UNTIL THE, TO THE VERY END OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN WILLOW AGAIN? THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE REPLACEMENT PANEL.
YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE PANEL REPLACEMENT, GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AT ONE TIME.
SO, AND THAT'S GONNA SERVE, UM, SINCE IT SERVES A ALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
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THERE, IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET AROUND AND THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND BECAUSE THERE'RE ALREADY GONNA DETOUR EASY DETOURS.ON HOSPITAL DRIVE, UH, THE COUNTY'S READY TO GO WITH US.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, STARTING ON, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SIXTH OR THE NINTH OF THIS MONTH.
THAT PARTICULAR JOB IS GONNA START.
THEY'RE GONNA DO ONE SIDE AT A TIME, OR THEY'RE DOING, WE'RE GONNA DETOUR, THEY'RE GONNA DO THE FULL ASPHALT PORTION.
WE'RE GONNA BE DETOURING ALONG THE EXISTING CONCRETE LINE, UH, CONCRETE LINE.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE A TWO-WAY, TWO LANE, TWO-WAY.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A COUPLE MONTHS PROJECT OR NO, NO, IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE.
IT'S AN ASPHALT JOB, SO IT SHOULD BE TAKEN PROBABLY AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, 10 DAYS AT THE MOST.
SO THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA GRIND AND THEN OVERLAY, THEN LAY DOWN OR JUST AN OVERLAY? THEY'RE GONNA GRIND AND, AND CORRECT.
SO NORTH EUROPE ON THE, ALMOST THROUGH WITH IT, BUT THEY STILL HAVE SIGNS THAT IN LEFT LANE BLOCKED, SO, OKAY.
BY THE WELL SECTION OVER THERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE AND, AND MAKE THAT, UH, THAT ADJUSTMENT THERE.
UH, JUST ONE THING REAL QUICK IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE KNOW FOR SURE, IS THAT THE DOWNTOWN TAKING CARE AS FAR AS CLEANING IT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, MAINTENANCE OF IT THAT FALLS UNDER PARKS AND, UH, PARKS HAS MADE A GOOD EFFORT GOING THROUGH DOWNTOWN.
IT REALLY LOOKS NICE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP THE FEW ODDS AND ENDS, THE FEW, YOU KNOW, BARRELS HERE, THE SIGN THERE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO IT, IT, UH, I REALLY, EVERYBODY REALLY APPRECIATES, UH, ALL THAT AND EXTRA EFFORT.
WE'RE STILL GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LAKE ROAD.
AND, UH, WHAT COMPLAINTS ARE YOU GETTING? IT SAYS IT'S A ROLLERCOASTER
I MEAN, THAT'S THE, UH, THE ISSUE WITH EVEN THE RAS DATA AND WHAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, ASKED F YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEBATED, YOU KNOW, THE RAS DATA SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE REALLY TWO KINDS OF PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE, UH, PAVEMENT CONDITION, AND THEN YOU HAVE DRIVE, THEN YOU HAVE RIDEABILITY, RIDEABILITY OR YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION.
SO YOU CAN GO UP AND DOWN, BUT THE PAVEMENT STILL MAY BE GOOD.
OUR FIRST APPROACH GOING OUT THE GATE IS TO HANDLE PAVEMENT CONDITION BECAUSE THAT HELPS, UH, THAT IS LENGTHEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE LIFESPAN OF THE ROAD.
THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE, YOU KNOW, MY, MY MY THOUGHT IS, IS THAT IT WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS PAVEMENT CONDITION FIRST.
CORRECT? UH, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED ON THAT YOU APPROVE THE ENGINEER, UH, UH, TO BE INVOLVED IN, UH, WHICH IS THE THIRD PHASE OF THE FIRST, THE THIRD STEP OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE SPOT REPAIR PROJECT.
UH, THE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE ENGINEER ALREADY ON BOARD.
HE WAS ASKING US FOR CANDIDATES FOR THOSE PROJECTS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE.
AND I, I APPROACHED MR. MUNDO ABOUT THAT, UH, THAT, UH, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO TELL US WHAT PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
WE HAD A LIST THAT WAS DRAWN UP.
US IN SA, SABRINA WAS HERE, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN USED FOR THE PREVIOUS TWO STEPS.
UH, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF, UH, RECESS OR, OR REST AND GO BACK INTO, START APPLYING THE, THE NEW STREET ASSESSMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THERE.
TRYING TO CHOOSE FROM THOSE IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE PRO, YOU KNOW, THE PROPER, THAT'S WHAT I'VE INSTRUCTED STAFF WE'RE, UH, I MEAN WE'RE GONNA USE THE RE DATA.
THAT'S WHY WE, YOU KNOW, HAD, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, THOSE CORRIDOR DOORS.
UM, AND USING THOSE AS, UM, AS, AS OUR GUIDE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A CALL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE TWO AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FUND EVERYTHING.
BUT WE WANT TO USE THAT DATA AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND USE THE MOST CURRENT DATA RATHER THAN USING THIS IGNORANCE DATA, WHICH IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, UH, CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE.
AND, AND REALLY SABRINA WAS THE KEY ON GETTING THE RAS, YOU KNOW, DATA, TALKING ABOUT THE DATA COLLECTED BEFORE IT'S JUST WHAT YES.
SO YEAH, THAT LIST WAS COLLECTED BY SABRINA AND HER STAFF.
THERE'S THE STREETS DEPARTMENT.
BASED ON THE AMOUNT MAINTENANCE THAT THEY HAD BEEN PERFORMING ON, ON THOSE STREETS, THEY HAD THEIR OWN MOTIVATION AND REASONS.
NOW WE ARE GONNA BE INTRODUCING ANOTHER FACTOR THERE, WHICH IS A MORE SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO THINGS AND WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO MARRY BOTH APPROACHES.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
TO, UH, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.[01:20:01]
ROBIN, WE HAD A GREAT TIME AT THE EAST EGG HUNT.LOTS OF PEOPLE, I DIDN'T WIN ANY PRIZES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WHICH FIELD WERE YOU ON? UH, FIELD FOUR.
THEY STAYED, THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T JUMP.
OH, YOU SAYING EVERYBODY ELSE JUMPED A GUN, HUH? ONE YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT, RHONDA.
UH, JUST THE SAME ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE, UH, KEY LAKE JACKSON, BEAUTIFUL HASS GOT SHRED DAY COMING UP ON THE EIGHTH.
20TH AND IT'LL BE OVER AT MCLEAN PARK.
UH, YOU CAN BRING UP THE FIVE BOXES, YOUR OLD GLASSES, YOUR OLD CELL PHONES, AND BROKEN CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
SO IT'S THAT ON APRIL 27TH? IT'S ON 20TH.
I'LL REMIND ME LATER WHEN WE GET CLOSER.
IT, MR. BLACK, IF YOU REMIND ME LATER, MR. SIN, UH, JUST A QUESTION.
I NOTICED, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, GRASS PLANTING HAPPENING ON, UH, CIRCLE WAY RIGHT ACROSS FROM, UH, DREW BROTHERS CAR WASH.
IS THERE CITY DOING IT OR THE UH, NO.
NO, THE, UH, IT, IT'S THE BUSINESS.
DAVID WENT OUT TO TALK TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT WAS AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN GRASS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, I CAN SPEAK ON THAT ONE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF OLD LIKE, UH, LANDSCAPING DIVOTS AND THINGS IN THERE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GRADE IT AND SMOOTH IT OUT AND JUST MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
SO, UH, STAFF? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
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INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THIS FOR NOW AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE CITY LAKE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO RECEIVE ADVICE ON A LEGAL MATTER, UH, PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE UNDER SECTION 5 5 1 0.0712 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.