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OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

REPUBLIC FOR NATION.

ONE NATION, GOD WITH LIBERTY.

LIBERTY, I JUSTICE FOR ALL GOOD.

LET'S, SINCE I WAS THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT A BEARD, NOW I'M THE ONLY ONE WITH HAIR, WHICH I BEARD EXCEPT YOU.

OUCH.

MINE'S 10.

MINE'S 10 FROM DAY TO DAY.

YEAH.

, JEFF AND I HAVE BONDED OVER THAT.

YES.

UH, LET'S BEGIN

[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THEM OVER? YES.

YEAH.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MINUTES? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

DONE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY VISITOR COMMENTS? , YOUR DAUGHTER WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THE REESE'S PIECES.

OKAY.

THEN LET'S GET STARTED.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO, UH, AGENDA

[7. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SECOND PLAT AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCES AT LAKEWOOD MANOR AT HUISACHE, PECAN LANE AND FERN COURT FILED ON MAY 7, 2024.]

NUMBER SEVEN.

WE'RE GONNA SKIP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS.

IT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SECOND PLAT AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCES AT LAKEWOOD MANOR ON ATCH PECAN LANE AND FERN COURT FILED ON MAY THE SEVENTH, 2024.

UH, MS. CHAIRMAN, IS THERE ANY REPRESENTATIVE WITH LAKEWOOD HERE? YES.

UH HMM.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MIGUEL WITH BAKER AND AUSTIN ENGINEERS.

UM, THE PLAT, UH, I, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK RECORDED TWICE BEFORE, BUT ON THIS PLAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES.

UH, WHAT WE DID WAS WE ADDED A FIVE FOOT WATERLINE EASEMENT ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, JUST TO GET MORE ROOM FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE WATERLINE.

UM, ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE ADJUSTED ON THIS PLAT WAS AT AND T, UH, FOLLOWED UP AND REQUESTED MORE EASEMENTS ALONG THE PROPERTY.

SO I KNOW, UH, WE ADDED, UH, AT AND T EASEMENT ALONG THE DITCH, AND THEN SOME ALONG THE, THE BACK PROPERTY LINES OF WHERE THE HOUSES ARE OR THE, UH, WHERE THE UNITS ARE.

AND, UH, THE LAST ONE I DO UNDERSTAND IS WE CHANGED THE BUILDING LINES AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO BETTER SUIT WHAT WE CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE.

UM, BESIDES THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF SAL, YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS OF WHAT ELSE WAS CHANGED.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE BRINGING THIS IN THIS PLAT NOW IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SLOWLY OR CLOSING IN ON THE END OF THE PROJECT.

AND, UH, AS PART OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR, UH, CERTIFICATES OF, UH, OCCUPANCY, UH, ALL THESE DOCUMENTATION IS GONNA HAVE TO BE COMPLETED.

SO THIS IS, UH, THE DOCUMENT, ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED, WHICH IS THE PLANT.

NOW.

IT REFLECTS NOW THE, UH, THE CONDITIONS THAT IN ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AS REGARDS TO BOUNDARY LINES, EASEMENTS, ET CETERA.

OH, ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY, NO, I DON'T EITHER.

NO, MATT.

OKAY.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PLAT? I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SECOND PLAT AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCE OF LAKEWOOD MANOR AT WESTSIDE STREET PECAN LANE IN FERN COURT, FILED ON MAY 7TH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY, THAT'S DONE.

LET'S MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION.

ARE WE GONNA VOTE ON IT? WE'RE GONNA VOTE.

I'M SORRY, HARRY, JUST YOU CAN GO LIKE THIS.

.

I SAID, ARE WE GONNA VOTE ON IT? UH, UH YES.

DO I HAVE A VOTE ON THIS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE, UH, NOT IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

THAT ONE PASSES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[8. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCES AT LAKEWOOD MANOR AT HUISACHE, PECAN LANE AND FERN COURT FILED ON MAY 7, 2024.]

UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER EIGHT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR RESIDENCE OF LAKEWOOD MANOR.

ONCE AGAIN, THE SAME PROPERTY AT ATCH STREET.

PEON LANE IN FERN COURT FILED ON MAY THE SEVENTH.

MS. UH, THE CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO

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MAKE A, UH, REVISION FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

ORIGINALLY, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW, UH, PENDING A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTATION BEING CORRECT, UH, UH, FOR CORRECTNESS.

UH, IT WASN'T.

SO THEY ARE MISSING SOME INFORMATION ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.

UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE ENGINEER, UH, AND, UH, THEY, UH, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WILL BE BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US LATER PART LATER IN THE MONTH, SUPPOSEDLY AT THE END, OR, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE 24TH OR SO OF THE MONTH.

UH, WHICH WOULD THEN NECESSITATE THIS THING TO BE MOVING INTO THE, UH, UH, JUNE MEETING.

AND, UH, THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT ONE.

SO THE DISCUSSION HERE IS GONNA BE BASICALLY ON THE SIDE PLAN FOR A ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW ONLY AND ACTION.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THE ITEMS RELATED TO THE .

OKAY.

UM, TALKING WITH SAL LAST WEEK, UM, THE ITEMS THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ON THIS SITE PLAN IS, UH, WE ARE GOING TO DO A SURVEY ON THE BUILDINGS TO GET FINISHED, FLOOR ELEVATIONS TO REPORT THAT ON THE SITE PLAN.

AND THEN, UM, WE DID ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN THE HOUSES TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE, AND THAT'S GONNA BE REFLECTED INTO THE SITE PLAN AS WELL.

UM, IN TERMS OF A TIMELINE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO TOPO THE, AS-BUILTS OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND THE INFORMATION SENT ONCE UNTIL MAYBE MAY 24TH, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.

AMONG THESE OTHER ITEMS, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT, UH, WAS REQUIRED AT THE, UH, PUD ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BY, BY THE, BY THE BOARD HERE.

UH, AND ONE WAS THAT, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, AN AS BUILT, BASICALLY DONE OF THE SITE PLAN.

AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD, UH, I GUESS A GOOD CALL BY THE PLANTERS BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT ALL STARTED WITH THE, WITH PLACEMENT OF SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS, UH, NOT IN THE PROPER PLACE, WHICH, UH, REQUIRED THAT THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE WOULD, UH, BE CHANGED.

UH, AND THROUGH, UH, ALL THE ITERATIONS THAT WENT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION DEAL, UH, A LOT OF THINGS GOT CHANGED.

PRIMARILY THE DRAIN SIDE OF THINGS.

THERE WERE A, A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, EITHER WERE BUILT INCORRECTLY FROM THE PLANS THAT REQUIRED THAT THE DRAINAGE BE, AGAIN, MODIFIED AND OF COURSE INCLUDED IN, IN, IN THE NEW SIDE PLAN.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A GOOD CALL MADE BY THE PLAN BY THE BOARD BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW, UH, MAKES US HAVE A SIDE PLAN THAT ACTUALLY REFLECTS WHAT'S HAPPENED OUT IN THE FIELD.

IS THAT THE 25 FOOT SETBACK THAT WE HAD INITIALLY CORRECT.

OR, OKAY.

AT, AT, AT THE VERY GET GO OF THE PROJECT, THE VERY FIRST SPOT GOT SOMETHING, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

OKAY.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT? IS A MOTION NECESSARY ON THIS ONE AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YES.

ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW? UH, OKAY.

I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCE OF LAKEWOOD MANOR AT WEAT STREET PE CON LANE IN FERN COURT, FILED ON MAY 7TH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

LET'S VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY.

MOVING ON ONCE AGAIN.

WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR AGENDA.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE

[9. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCES AT LAKEWOOD MANOR AT HUISACHE, PECAN LANE AND FERN COURT FILED ON MAY 7, 2024.]

AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE RESIDENCES ONCE AGAIN AT LAKEWOOD MANOR.

AT SATCH PECAN AND FERN COURT ON MAY THE SEVENTH.

OKAY.

AND, UH, REPEATING MYSELF AGAIN ON THE SAME ISSUE.

UH, THIS WAS THE MAIN DOCUMENT THAT THE BOARD AT THE TIME THAT THEY APPROVED THE PLANNER, THE, UH, THE P UH, MADE IT A POINT

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THAT THEY NEEDED TO COME BACK AT THE END OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO, UH, GIVE US A BETTER FEEL OR BETTER RESULTS OF THE, OF THE LANDSCAPE THAT ENDED UP THE WAY IT'S RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND THEN I'LL LET, UH, I'LL LET MIGUEL, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON THE PLAN, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.

OKAY.

UH, NICOLE, CAN YOU GO TO LS TWO? BOTH LS TWO AND LS ONE, UM, HAD CHANGES BASED ON, UM, A TREE WE HAD TO REMOVE ON THE SITE.

UM, I'M GONNA USE THE LASER POINTER.

I CAN SEE IT RIGHT, RIGHT HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

THERE WAS A 48 TREE THAT WE INTENDED ON PRESERVING.

UH, THE ISSUE WITH THAT TREE WAS IT WAS GROWING TOWARDS THE BUILDING IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE COULDN'T TRIM IT WITHOUT KILLING THE TREE.

SO WE DID TO MITIGATE, UH, HAVING TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT OF PLANTING TREES.

WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, THIS TREE RIGHT HERE, UH, WELL ACTUALLY UP HERE, 5, 5 5 AND 5 5 6.

UH, THIS IS A 36 INCH TREE UP HERE.

AND THIS IS A 12 INCH TREE UP HERE THAT WE DECIDED TO PRESERVE INSTEAD OF REMOVE TO MAKE UP FOR THE 48 INCH TREE.

SO IT, IT NET ZERO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE CALIPER INCHES THAT WE HAD TO PRESERVE ON THE SITE.

UM, BESIDES THAT, UH, OTHER CHANGES THAT WE DID, UM, WE, WE MADE CORRECTIONS TO THE, THE TOTAL LANDSCAPE AREA.

I KNOW WE EXCEED THE LANDSCAPING AREA BY A GOOD AMOUNT.

IT WAS JUST A CORRECTION TO THIS NUMBER.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 76,000 SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPE.

WE'RE AT FOUR 75,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S COUNTING GRASS.

YES, CORRECT.

AND PITCHES, OPEN AREA PITCHES AND THE POND, UH, IF YOU, WELL, REMEMBER THIS WAS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT AT THE TIME.

MM-HMM.

'CAUSE OF THE, UH, LOST ALL THE TREES THAT WERE THERE THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, HAD A, YOU KNOW, HAD A GOOD FEEL FOR.

UH, AND AT THAT TIME, UH, THEY PRESENTED A SET UP A, A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT YOU ACCEPTED BASED ON OKAY, WHAT IS IT AND, AND WHAT THE REPRESENTATION MADE BY THE DEVELOPER AT THAT TIME.

WHO ISN'T THERE ANY, WHO IS, DID NOT COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND WHO WAS NOT THERE ANYMORE.

UH, UH, MADE A LOT OF REPRESENTATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, IN LANDSCAPE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, THIS IS THE FUTURE NOW, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE, WHETHER OR NOT THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENT, THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REAL BASIC REQUIREMENTS.

I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF TREES ARE WHAT IS CALLED FOR.

THERE'S ONLY TWO RESERVED TREES LEFT THERE.

WHAT WAS THE COUNT ON THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT? UH, ON 11 TREES.

AND THEY HAVE 11 TREES NOW.

THEY USE SOME OF THE RESERVE TREES TO MITIGATE THOSE THAT WERE LOST DURING THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION.

WELL, THAT STILL HAS, YOU STILL HAVE 11 TREES AS CREDIT TREES.

AND THAT'S IT.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO RESERVE TREES STILL LEFT THERE.

UH, SO THIS IS GOING TO PUT 'EM IN A VERY PRECARIOUS SITUATION AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPE IS.

THE TREE SITUATION IS IN THE FUTURE, THEY REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE ANY, ANYTHING HAPPEN.

AND IF ANYTHING DOES HAPPEN, THERE'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, I GUESS, UH, WRESTLE WITH IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MITIGATE, UH, FOR WHATEVER LOSSES HAPPEN.

SO THE AS-BUILT, DOES IT ALSO INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING? WELL, IT HAS THE SAME, IT HAS MEETS THE LANDSCAPE BASED ON AREA, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, OPEN AREAS.

UH, AT, AT THIS TIME THERE WASN'T ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, ANYTHING SPECIAL TREATMENT OR ANYTHING THAT THEY INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN.

JUST LIKE IT WAS IN THE VERY, IN THE, AT THE START, THERE WAS NO SPECIAL TEACHERS SPECIAL TREAT.

UH, THERE IS A, UH, SCREENING, UH, THAT IS MET.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE SCREENING ON ALONG THE, UH, ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

RIGHT.

UH, AND, UH, BUT

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THERE, AND THERE, BUT THERE IS NO TREE SCREENING BECAUSE AT THE TIME THE BOARD DECIDED TO ALLOW 'EM NOT TO HAVE, OR GAVE THEM THE EXCEPTION NOT TO HAVE ANY TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE BECAUSE OF THE SPACING OR THE PARKING, UH, CONFIGURATION.

THERE AS MANY DRIVEWAYS AS THEY WERE.

IT REALLY DIDN'T CREATE THAT SPACING.

THAT 30 THAT, THAT IS REQUIRED, WHICH IS A 30 FOOT SPACING ON TREES AT THE TIME.

YOU, YOU ALLOWED THEM TO GET AN ALTERNATE, UH, AN ALTERNATE DESIGNATION.

IT CAME BACK WITH THE SAME SITUATION, WITH THE SAME CONDITION WITH THIS AS BUILT.

UH, DID I REMEMBER THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE THAT A YEAR LATER AFTER THE FINISH OF THE PROJECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

YOU, YOU SAID THAT AND A THREE YEAR AFTERWARDS.

THREE YEAR ALSO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THIS MEETS THERE THE BARE MINIMUM, BARE BASIC OF THE LANDSCAPE.

THE FIRST TREE YOU MENTIONED THERE IN THE CENTER AT THE BOTTOM.

DID YOU SAY THAT WAS COMING OUT? UH, IT CAME OUT, YES.

IT'S GONE.

THAT'S REALLY IN THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWAY.

ISN'T THAT TRUE? CORRECT.

IT WAS.

RIGHT.

IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE DRAINAGE EASTMAN.

OKAY.

IT'S IN THEIR PROPERTY.

RIGHT BEHIND THOSE HOUSES.

MM-HMM.

, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT FROM THE DRAWING.

IT'S RIGHT IN IT.

SO, MM-HMM.

THERE ARE THREE OF THOSE TREES ARE IN THE EASEMENT, BUT THEY DO NOT COUNT ANY, IN ANY FASHION IN THIS PARTICULAR ACCIDENT.

I, I WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT DETERRING, UH, THE DRAINAGE.

NO, I MEAN, THE, THERE, THAT'S A DEEP DITCH THERE.

SO IT, IT DOESN'T COME INTO THE DITCH.

AND IT'S THE SAME DITCH THAT WE HAD BEFORE AS OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE ELEVATIONS AROUND THE TREE.

YOUR OKAY.

TREES POSITIVE.

MM-HMM.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY.

WE NEED A MOTION.

IS THIS ANOTHER ONE WITHOUT THE FINAL REVIEW OR THIS IS FINAL? IT DOES HAVE THE FINAL.

OKAY.

IT DOES HAVE FINAL, THIS PRELIMINARY HAVE FINAL, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AMENDMENT FOR RESIDENCE OR LAKE WOULD MATTER AT, WE SAY CON LANE IN FERN COURT FILED ON MAY THE SEVENTH, UH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? A.

AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? AYE.

WHAT'S THAT? OPPOSED? TWO, THREE.

2, 3 2.

OKAY.

WELL THE MOTION HAS PASSED.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE BACK UP TO THE TOP.

UM,

[4. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAT AMENDMENT OF LOTS 1, 2 & 7 OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE DRIVE (SLEEPY HOLLOW).]

LET'S GO FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAT.

AMENDMENT OF LOTS.

ONE, TWO, AND SEVEN OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE DRIVE IN SLEEPY HOLLOW.

HELLO.

WELL, HELLO, I'M CYNTHIA ARMSTRONG AND I HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF MY TAX.

I, I'M SPECIFIC IT TO SOMEBODY AND I HAVE A PLAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE FINAL PLAT.

IT'S, NO, THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE.

UH, IT, IT'S THE FIRST, THE FIRST UH, STEP.

BUT I HAVE THREE LOTS AND I'D LIKE TO CONVERGE INTO ONE LOT.

OKAY.

ON BA WINKLE.

YES.

UH, NEVER INTEND TO SELL THE OTHER TWO LOTS, SO MIGHT AS WELL HAVE ONE LOT.

AND MR. ARMS, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE IS ON THAT PARTICULAR? WELL, IT STARTED WITH THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND I'M GOING TO BUILD A DETACHED GARAGE OR SOME TYPE OF A, ANOTHER BUILDING, SO I WON'T HAVE TO DO THE EASEMENTS OF EACH LOT.

I'D LIKE TO MAYBE CROSS OVER.

SO IF IT WAS ONE LOT, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE EASEMENTS OF THE OTHER TWO LOTS.

OKAY.

WE HAD MEETINGS WITH MS. ARMSTRONG TWICE ALREADY, IF I MISTAKEN.

YES.

AND UH, WHERE SHE, UH, BROUGHT TO US WHAT, YOU KNOW, HER CONCEPT OF WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO AS FAR AS HER DEVELOPMENT THERE.

UH, WE

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EXPLAINED TO HER THAT THIS IS A, AN R ONE, UH, RESIDENTIAL, I MEAN RESIDENTIAL AREA.

R ONE RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WHATEVER USE SHE HAS FOR THOSE, FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOT, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR RESIDENCE, RIGHT? YES.

I HAVE IT ON ONE OF THE LOTS AND THERE'S TWO OTHER VACANT LOTS.

ALRIGHT.

AND SHE INTENDS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ADD A, ADD A ADD BUILDINGS TO THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PLURAL, PLURAL IS.

WELL, LET'S PEOPLE TREES.

TREES AND FLOWERS.

TREES.

FLOWERS AND, AND BUILDINGS.

SO LET ME GET CLARIFICATION.

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN TO WHERE THIS HOUSE IS.

MM-HMM.

.

IT IS A HOME THAT WAS OCCUPIED BY YOUR PARENTS MOTHER.

RIGHT.

AND YOUR MOTHER, YOUR DAD.

AND IT'S NEVER BEEN OUT SINCE SLEEPY HOLLOW WAS DEVELOPED.

THAT'S BEEN IT.

AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLOTTED AS THREE LOTS, BUT NO ONE EVER DID ANYTHING TO DEVELOP OR TO ATTEMPT TO SELL THE OTHER TWO.

WELL, MY FATHER NEVER, HE THOUGHT THAT HE SAW HIS KIDS.

THAT'S A YES OR NO.

ARE YOU PREGNANT OR NOT? ? I HOPE NOT.

.

I HOPE NOT.

I DON'T NEED EXPLANATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT.

NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE ON THOSE LOTS.

NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE.

AND I BOUGHT THE LOTS FROM THE ESTATE.

AND SINCE YOU HAVE MOVED IN TO MAKE THIS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND BEEN REMODELING THE EXISTING HOME, YOU'RE WISHING TO DEVELOP THE HOME TO BE MORE CURRENT FOR LIKE TO MAYBE PUT ON A DETACHED GARAGE OR SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE.

RIGHT.

AND IF IT, AND TO DO THAT APPROPRIATELY WITHIN OUR ZONING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER.

AND MATTER OF FACT, THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE THE PLAT CHANGE INSTEAD OF THREE GOOD SIZED LOTS TO ONE VERY LARGE LOT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S ALL YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.

YES.

AND I'M AT THE DEAD END OF THE ROAD.

I, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, OF COURSE.

.

SO THAT'S LITERALLY LIKE WE SOMETIMES REPL FOR COMMERCIAL THINGS.

MM-HMM.

BUT MAINLY FOR RESIDENTIAL LIKE THIS.

AND THEN, THEN WE STEP OUT OF IT AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE CITY ON MEETING OTHER REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S ALL YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.

YES.

OKAY.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? NO, I'M STILL TRYING TO, OKAY.

UH, IT'S OKAY.

HARRY, THERE'S A HOUSE ON THAT SITE NOW.

YES, YES, YES.

IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1953 OR FOUR.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO WAS BUILT THE SETBACKS ARE DEFINED RELATIVE TO RICH STREET OR WELL, THAT'S WHERE YOU, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, GO GO TO THE PLANT.

AND THOSE ARE THE SETBACKS RIGHT THERE.

JUST LIKE IT HAS HERE.

HERE'S THE SETBACKS ONE LOT SOUTH OF THE HOUSE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS FOR THE HOUSE ITSELF.

HOUSE.

WELL THOSE ARE THE SETBACKS FOR THE HAZARD.

OKAY.

AND IT, IT IS NOT, UH, BREAKING ANY OF THOSE RULES YET.

AND ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU WOULD DO WOULD CORRECT.

I MEAN NOW IF SHE ERASES ALL THOSE LINES BETWEEN THE LOTS YES.

SHE, SHE HAS CART LAUNCH AS FAR AS MOVING BUILDINGS ANYWHERE.

CART LAUNCH.

YEAH.

EXCEPT FOR THESE SETBACKS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THE SETBACKS FOR A LOT REMAIN IN PLACE.

IT'S JUST THE LOT GETS RECONVICTED.

YES, YES.

I'M MOWING ALL OF IT RIGHT NOW.

NO, THAT'S ALWAYS PLEASANT.

BUT I COULD HAVE THE OPTION OF SELLING, WHICH I DON'T EVER INTEND TO AS LONG AS I CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE TAXES.

SO HERE'S GOOD LOOK WITH THAT.

AND HERE'S THE OTHER ONE.

AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO, I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE POINTING HERE.

AND THE HOUSE IS BOTH.

OKAY THERE.

READY GO.

YEAH.

THE HOUSE IS UP THERE.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

WHETHER IT REMAINS ONE LOT OR, OR BECOMES ONE LOT OR REMAINS THREE LOTS.

THE SETBACK FROM THE STREET IS THE SAME.

AND WHAT'S STRANGE IS THE STREET DOESN'T GO THROUGH.

SO THAT'S SORT OF, IT'S THE DEAD END.

IT'S THE END OF SLEEPY HOLLOW.

RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY NICE IN OUR MIND WE THINK ABOUT SETBACKS REALLY TO THE STREET PASSING ALL THE WAY THROUGH RATHER THAN BEING STUBB LIKE THAT.

THAT'S THE END.

WE HAVE CUL-DE-SACS AND IT IS NOT, THAT'S NOT APPLYING TO IT.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A SQUARE CUL-DE-SAC.

I ASSUME WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS.

SO.

WELL YOU COULD HAVE SQUARE FOOT.

WE DO HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE A SQUARE CUL-DE-SAC.

YEAH.

WE HAVE HAMMER CUL-DE-SAC HAMMERHEAD DOESN'T IMPLY AROUND.

OH, IT'S CALLED A HAMMERHEAD.

IT'S CALLED A HAMMERHEAD.

HE SAID HAMMERHEAD.

LET ME ALSO TELL Y'ALL,

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IT'S NOT REALLY THAT RELEVANT ON THIS, BUT THAT EASEMENT THAT GOES ACROSS THAT CONNECTS TO THE COLLEGE WE WERE ANNEXED SLEEPY OLIVE WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.

SO THE COLLEGE COULD BE IN LAKE JACKSON.

SO THAT EASEMENT, THE SEWER AND THE WATER GOES ACROSS THE LAND TO THE COLLEGE UNDERNEATH THE CREEK.

YOU'RE NOT CHARGING HIM RENT FOR THAT OR ANYTHING.

.

MY DAD MADE THE DEAL MANY YEARS BACK IN, I GUESS 74 OR FIVE.

SO YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE NAME.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO DOES THIS LOT REMAIN R ONE OR DOES IT CHANGE THE, UH, IT REMAINS R ONE.

IT CAN ONLY BE REZONED BY THE BOARD.

AND THERE'S NO QUE QUESTION OR REQUEST TO DO THAT.

IT'S JUST TO REPLAY IT.

NO, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE TO, WE ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OF THE PLANT AMENDMENT OF LOTS.

ONE, TWO, AND SEVEN OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE DRIVE SLEEPY HOLLOW.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS PASSED.

LET'S MOVE ON

[5. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST. MICHAEL’S CATHOLIC CHURCH AT 100 OAK DR SOUTH FILED ON MAY 7, 2024.]

TO AGENDA NUMBER FIVE, ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST.

MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH AT 100 OAK DRIVE SOUTH FILED.

YEAH.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF ST.

MICHAEL'S.

UH, YES.

.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO, ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT IT? ? I WASN'T PLANNING ON TALKING.

WELL, , YES.

UH, MARK MC BURNETT.

I'M A PARISHIONER ST.

MICHAEL'S RESIDENT OF LAKE JACKSON AND CHAIRMAN OF THE BUILDING COMMITTEE FOR ST.

MICHAEL'S.

OKAY.

UH, THIS IS THE, THE SIDE PLAN.

UH, THE SIDE PLAN.

AND WE'RE GOING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL FILING.

FILING, UH, FILING BECAUSE IT'S A SIMPLE TYPE OF, UH, OF THE PROCESS OF WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU SEE THERE.

WHAT YOU SEE THERE RIGHT NOW IS A, UH, THE LAYOUT.

YOU SEE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS OF WHAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IN THE COMPLEX.

AND YOU SAY MICHAEL'S COMPLEX AND IT CONSISTS OF SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BUILDINGS.

UH, THE MAIN CHAPEL, WHICH IS THE ONE CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY.

AND, UH, THE CORNER THERE.

AND THEIR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO, UH, FOR THIS SIDE PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO INCORPORATE IN IT A, UH, THE, THE CHAPEL.

A SMALL CHAPEL ATION CHAPEL, I BELIEVE OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

AT ADORATION CHAPEL.

THE, OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE LITTLE AREA THAT, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THAT, UH, THAT OUTLINE THERE, THAT TOP PORTION IS WHAT THEY INTEND TO, UH, TO ADD INTO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, FACILITY.

IT IS SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN CHAPEL, BUT IT, IT'S, UH, IT IS, UH, IT ABUTS IT AND IT PROBABLY HAS SOME TYPE OF A CONNECTION FROM, FROM THE, UH, MAIN CHAPEL.

UH, IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S, UH, 1100 SQUARE FOOT, THE PROCESS IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1100 SQUARE FOOT IN SIZE.

SO IT'S REALLY A, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDER A MINOR.

IF ANYTHING, UH, ADDITION IT IS, IS GONNA BE LOCATED WITHIN AN OPEN AREA RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, SO THEREFORE IT'S ALSO HAS A MINOR TYPE OF IMPACT ON THE, ON THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE AREA REQUIREMENTS OF ITSELF.

PARKING IS, UH, NO ISSUE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE, UH, THE, UH, THE CHAPEL WILL BE OPERATING DOING THE SAME TYPE OF, UH, THE WAY THE, UH, THE, UH, THE WAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY, IF YOU BREAK DOWN THE DIFFERENT USES OF THE PROPERTIES, OF THE DIFFERENT, OF THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THERE, UH, THE, UH, TOTAL COUNT, UH, THE TOTAL COUNT THAT IS PROVIDED FOR MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF EACH OF THOSE USES AS, AS WHEN YOU APPLY IT INDIVIDUALLY TO ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT USES.

AND THE FACT IS THAT THERE WILL BE A, UH, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE, THE MAIN USES THAT COULD BE OCCURRING AT ONE TIME, UH, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE, UH, THE CHURCH,

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THE CHAPEL, THE MAIN CHAPEL, AND THE, UH, AND THE, UH, WHAT IS THIS PARISH AND THE PARISH HALL, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME THAT THOSE TWO EVENTS WILL BE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, PARKING SPACES IS BASED ON THE SEATING OF THE TWO ASSEMBLY AREAS.

SITTING ON THE CHAPEL ITSELF.

BASICALLY WHAT I'M MASTER AND ON THE USES OF, UH, THE OTHER ACCESSORY USES THAT THERE ARE.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICE, IT, IT'S, THE OFFICES ARE ALSO COUNTED AND INTO, INTO THE COUNTY.

THERE'S PARKING, BUT THERE'S EXCESS PARKING.

SO THERE'S EXCESS PARKING.

OKAY.

AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THAT PARKING LOT UNLESS YOU, YOU HAVE SEEN THAT PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, USE THAT THAT MUCH.

BUT YOU'RE BEING PRACTICAL ON SUNDAY.

YOU'RE BEING PRACTICAL NOW, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

WELL, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

THEY MEET, THEY MEET ALL THE CONDITIONS, WHETHER PRACTICAL OR JUST BY THE BOAT.

OKAY.

ALL THIS WAS BUILT BEFORE WE HAD DETENTION PONDS.

I'LL BET YOU.

UH, YES.

YEAH.

YES.

BUT THIS WILL NOT IN IMPACT ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT IT'S, I I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MAJOR DRAINAGE OVER ON THE SIDE ANYWAY.

SO YOU HAVE A MAJOR CHANNEL THAT'S, UH, BOTH DIRECTIONS, TWO SIDES OF THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE.

YES.

THEY'RE MOVED FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE SO.

ANY SIZE.

THEY HAVE A POWERFUL OWNER.

I DON'T WANNA BUCK HIM.

POWERFUL.

WHAT? I'M OWNER.

OWNER.

I'M MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE BASEMENT ON THE PARISH HALL.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

THE WHAT SIR? THERE'S A, IS THERE A BASEMENT ON THE PARISH HALL? I DON'T THINK SO.

NO.

NO.

SO THERE'S A DE NOTION THAT SAYS PARISH HALL SQUARE FOOTAGE INCLUDE SPACES BELOW.

OH, THEY MEAN BELOW.

LIKE LISTED THE HALL, COMMON AREAS, THE CHAPEL, THE LIBRARY.

DAMN.

.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

LITERAL, LITERAL.

DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST.

MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH AT 100 OAK DRIVE SOUTH, FILED ON MAY 7TH, 2024.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

THERE'S ONE, THERE'S ONE MORE.

YOU DID GREAT.

OH, .

YEAH.

ONE MORE.

YOU GOT MORE REPORT ON IT.

ADMINISTRATIVE

[6. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST. MICHAEL’S CATHOLIC CHURCH AT 100 OAK DR SOUTH FILED ON MAY 7, 2024.]

AND FINAL REVIEW IN ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST.

MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH.

ONCE AGAIN AT 100 OAK DRIVE SOUTH.

AND AGAIN, UH, WE GO BACK TO THE, UH, TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS ONLY OCCUPYING, UH, 1100 SQUARE FOOT OUT OF THE OVERALL, UH, OPEN AREA LANDSCAPE.

THAT'S THE ONLY IMPACT IT HAS.

UH, NO TREES WERE SACRIFICED DUE TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, THERE WAS ONE TREE THAT WAS SACRIFICED FOR THAT ONE SIX INCH BRADFORD REPAIR.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, SO THE OVERALL DAMAGE.

AND THEY HAD MORE, MORE TREE GUN, MORE TREE GUNS THAN WAS THAT IS NECESSARY.

THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THAT'S PART OF THEIR, UH, I BELIEVE MEMORIAL.

UH, YES.

WE'VE WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO PLANT TREES AS MEMORIALS FOR MANY YEARS AS WE YES.

SO, UH, THAT IN, IN, IN THE, IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS IS, IS, IS YOU'VE NEVER HAD A SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

HAVE YOU? UH, UH, LITTLE ONES, UH, HERE AND THERE, BUT NONE OF 'EM, UH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF 'EM ARE FUNCTIONAL AT THIS POINT.

SO THAT PROBABLY WASN'T REQUIRED IN THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THERE WASN'T ANY ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

OKAY.

THAT'S HOW LONG IT IS.

I LOVE YOUR HISTORY GOING BACK, SHOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAD BEEN DONE.

YEAH.

AND I LIKE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE OWNER .

YEAH.

WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO KEEP OUR YEAH.

GOOD RELATIONSHIPS.

WELL THIS IS GOOD FOR THE CHURCH 'CAUSE IT'S GETTING EVERYTHING ORGANIZED AND CATEGORIZED UP TO DATE.

YEAH.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED WITH THE CHURCH FROM THE LAST, UH, THE LAST AMENDMENT WAS THE FACT THAT IT HAD NEVER BEEN PROPERLY, UH, YOU KNOW, GONE THROUGH THE SOUTH ISLAND LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SO WE MADE HIM, UH, DO ONE, ONE UPDATE.

NOW THIS IS THE SECOND UPDATE.

SO THEY'RE NOW IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT AS, AS THEY GO ALONG.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE OTHER AREAS AS THEY START, UH, THEY START MOVING INTO SOME OF THE TREATMENT PORTIONS THERE, WHICH I DUNNO WHETHER THAT'S

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THEIR INTENTION OR YEAH.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO FURTHER EXPECTATION OF BUILDINGS.

NOW IF SOMETHING WONDERFUL HAPPENS AND WE HAVE FILL ALL THOSE PARKING PLACES AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START WELL AT THAT POINT, WE'LL WE'LL HAPPILY CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE COME TO IT, CERTAINLY.

BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE FUTURE FORECAST.

IT SAYS WE'LL EXPAND.

THE ONLY PARKING I'VE SEEN IN THE BACK PARKING LOTS IS THE LAKE JACKSON POLICE.

.

YES.

AND WE HAVE THAT'S A HIDING SPOT.

DO DO THEY HAVE, I WONDER IF THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S IS THERE, IS THERE A CROSS CUT LIKE PARKING AGREEMENT? WELL, THE REASON WE LIKE 'EM THERE IS BECAUSE THE, UH, THAT, THAT'S A SHORTCUT FOR AROUND STOPLIGHT YEAH.

TO GO THROUGH.

AND, UH, SO WE HAVE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE, SO WE'RE MORE WELCOME.

THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.

I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

I'M HAPPY THEY DO THAT TOWARD IT.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY PARK AT FAMILY FITNESS ALSO AND DO SOME BUSINESS AND WAIT ON THE INTERSECTION TO BE LIVELY.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO MA'AM.

MATT? NO MA'AM.

HARRY? NO.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW ON ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ST.

MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH AT 100 OAK DRIVE SOUTH, FILED ON MAY 7TH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

IT PASSES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, THIS WASN'T THE ORIGINAL SITE FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

WE WELCOME.

THEY BOUGHT PROPERTY ON ISAIAH.

OH.

AND THEY WAITED UNTIL ST.

MARY'S SAYS, OKAY, YOU CAN HAVE A CHURCH.

AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND .

OH, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AWARE OF THAT.

I GREW UP IN THE ST.

MARY'S IN FREEPORT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

AND JACK REED, UH, BUILT THE THING.

, I BET.

AND THE REMODEL TOO LATE IN LIFE.

WHAT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST DO WE HAVE? ANYONE? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

NONE OF THE GROUPS HERE TONIGHT BESIDES THESE THREE SOULS SINCE OR FOUR SOULS.

I'M SORRY.

BLESS THEM.

THEY'RE HERE.

IT'S GOOD TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I FEEL BAD THEY GOT WRANGLED INTO ALL THE OTHERS.

GOT OUT OF IT.

I I DO.

WELL, CYNTHIA DOESN'T MIND.

SHE'S BACK THERE BEING SWEET.

UH, UH, LONG TIME.

BEST FRIEND OF MINE.

I ALSO LIVED ON VAN WINKLE FOR A WHILE.

UM, I WANTED TO TALK, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AGAIN ABOUT WE WERE DISCUSSING THE LAST TIME, LAST MONTH THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING 5 0 2 OAK DRIVE.

WELL, AFTER I SPOKE DURING THE MEETING, MIRACULOUSLY THE FRONT YARD WAS MOANING.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING.

HOWEVER, THE CONTINUANCE OF THE DECAY, THE SITUATION OF THE GARAGES, THE DEBRIS THAT IS IN THE GARAGE, UH, DRIVEWAYS, EVERYTHING THAT IT'S, IT'S A MESS.

THE BACK FENCE IS FALLING INTO OYSTER CREEK WITH ALL OF THE GROWNUP, UH, GREEN, UH, FOLIAGE.

IT IS LITERALLY LIKE THIS WITH VINES.

AND THINGS THAT YOU CAN TELL HAVE BEEN GROWING THERE FOR 20 YEARS.

THERE'S BEEN NO FORM OF MAINTENANCE ON THAT PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT IS.

HE, MATT POINTED OUT LAST MONTH THAT IT IS HANDICAPPED RESIDENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

HOWEVER, THE EYESORE OF GOING FROM BE BRANDON THROUGH ON THE RIGHT, THE, IF YOU WANTED TO PULL IN TO THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS, IF YOU HAD A PROBLEM OR SOMETHING, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN.

AND IT'S JUST COMPLETE TO TREAT US.

IT IS NOT, UH, WELL KEMPT AND IT'S EVEN NOT SAFE.

SO I HAVE THAT, UH, CONCERN ABOUT 5 0 2 OAK.

I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT FOUR 10 OAK.

THE LARGE ORIGINALLY ALDEN DOW HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT ON PROBABLY 2000 SQUARE FEET WERE BUILT ON IT TO THE LEFT.

IT'S A GIANT WHITE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT AGAINST THE CREEK, ABOUT FOUR, UH, OR FIVE HOUSES BEFORE THE OLAND HOUSE ON THE CORNER.

AND THAT IS ALSO A MESS FRONT AND BACK.

AND IT'S GOT NEW TRESPASSING AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF ALL OVER IT.

BUT I GUESS THAT ALSO MEANS NO Z TURN MOWERS, UH, NO WEED EATERS, NO FORM OF CARE.

IT IS ONCE AGAIN, AN EYESORE.

AND

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I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR, AS CITIZENS, WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE TO TALK ABOUT THESE HOUSES WHO ARE IN CONSTANT DISREPAIR AND UNSIGHTLY.

THE ONLY RIGHT THAT THE CITIZEN HAS IS TO COMPLAINT TO THE, UH, TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

OKAY.

UH, VOICING YOUR, YOUR DISPLEASURE OF, OF THE WAY THEY ARE MAINTAIN THE YARD.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO APPLY WHAT THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS ARE ON MAINTENANCE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPLICABLE, UH, TO GO OUT THERE AND CITE THEM OR WHATEVER THE MEASURE IS AVAILABLE FOR THEM.

UH, I KNOW THAT MODESTO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THING AND HE FELT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, UNABLE, HE DIDN'T REALLY FEEL THAT HE HAD THE, UH, HE HAD THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING THIS THING UP.

THE HOME IS UNOCCUPIED CELL.

IS IT UNOCCUPIED? IT IS.

WHICH, OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE AT FOUR 10 AT FOUR 10.

5 0 2 IS, UH, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT THEN.

YES.

UH, THE, UH, BUILDING, UH, THE BUILDING CODE, THE BUILDING OFF OFFICIAL WILL THEN, UH, TAKE NECESSARY THE NECESSARY STEPS TO START, UH, ONCE THE, ONCE THE COMPLAINT IS FILED MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOUR NAME OR ANYTHING.

HE WILL THEN TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO GO OUT AND START NOTIFYING THE, WHOEVER IS THE OWNER OF RECORD, UH, THROUGH THE MAIL.

AND HE HAS TO GO THROUGH SE SEVERAL STEPS, CERTAIN STEPS THERE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO UH, BE ABLE TO RECORD ALL THE, ALL THESE MOVES CONCERNING, CONCERNING THE, THE STATE OF THAT DEAL THERE.

AND, UH, IF NECESSARY, HE, I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES HE CANNOT GO INTO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION, BUT HE CAN GET THE NECESSARY, UH, LEGAL OF THE LEGAL MECHANISMS TO BE ABLE TO, TO GO IN THERE.

UH, WE HAVE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE BOARD AS WELL.

AND THE DA, PARDON ME, VINAY, WE HAVE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE BOARD ON, MEETS ON AS CALL BASIS.

ONCE HE DETERMINES THAT, THEN YES, HE CAN BRING IT UP TO THE DANGEROUS STRUCTURES DETERMINATION BOARD.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S INTERESTING.

UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE ALDEN DOW HOUSES, UH, ALONG OAK DRIVE AND ALONG MANY OTHER OF OUR ORIGINAL STREETS ARE A TREASURE.

AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME, UH, FROM FAR AWAY TO DRIVE THROUGH THE, OUR BEAUTIFUL OAK DRIVE.

AND OF COURSE EVERY PART OF LAKE JACKSON IS ENCHANTING.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT FOUR 10 IS, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

HE, MANY HOUSES HAVE BEEN CONDEMNED, UH, BY THE CITY.

AND I KNOW OF ONE, I THINK, BUT, WELL, NO.

YES.

UH, I SIT ON THAT BOARD, UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE CONDEMNED, UH, AT LEAST, UH, WE HAVE BEEN CONDEMNED AT LEAST ONE OR TWO A YEAR.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT CONDEMNATION IS THE RIGHT PATH.

I THINK IT'S COMMUNICATING WITH THE OWNERS ABOUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS OWNING A RESIDENCE IN LAKE JACKSON, NO MATTER WHERE IT IS.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE VERSE FIRST STEPS THAT, UH, THAT THESE BILL FISH WILL TAKE, YOU KNOW, NOTIFICATION AND BY CORRESPONDENCE OR BY EMAIL OR I MEAN ANY METHOD THAT IS AVAILABLE TO HIM.

AND HE WILL, HE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

AND ALL THAT THING WILL BE RECORDED, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR LEGAL MATTERS.

SO YES.

OKAY.

I WOULD THINK OUR, OUR TOWN IS IN A POINT WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OWNED THE HOUSES AND DIE, AND YOU HAVE JUST HEIRS TO THAT, THAT TAKE LITTLE INTEREST.

AND, UH, THAT'S PRIMARILY THE PROBLEM.

THE HEIRS THAT REALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT.

UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO TAKE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THEIR HOUSE SO THEY CAN, UH, FLIP IT.

.

WELL, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, DECLINING.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT PROPERTY.

V STEWART LIVED IN THAT PROPERTY FOR YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS STILL AN ACTIVE, LOVELY HOME.

BUT NOW WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST IT, YOU JUST KIND OF CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S, ESPECIALLY ON THE OYSTER CREEK SIDE OF OAK AS YOU MOVE TOWARD, UH, ONCE AGAIN 5 0 2 MM-HMM.

, UH, MOVE TOWARD THAT INTERSECTION HEADED TO, UH, 2004.

IS IT JUST, IT? NO,

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IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY BAD.

AND ONCE AGAIN, IT COULD BE DANGEROUS THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

IT HAS LOTS OF TRESPASSING SIGNS.

HOWEVER, IT, IT LOOKS TO ME, I MEAN, I DRIVE PAST IT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY LIVING IN NORTHWOOD AND COMING THROUGH TO GO ON OAK OR TO GO STRAIGHT.

UH, AND I AM JUST, UH, ALARMED.

AND IT'S ALSO A VERY LARGE HOUSE.

5,600 SQUARE FEET.

IS IT WHAT, 5,600 SQUARE FEET OWNED BY SANDRA WOODY AND KRISTEN CRYSTAL, CRYSTAL, KIRSTEN, SANDRA, WOODY, THAT'S IT.

YEP.

AND CRYSTAL.

KIRSTEN.

KIRSTEN.

YEP.

I I GREW UP WITH CRYSTAL LIVES ON BACHELOR BUTTON.

YEAH.

BACHELOR BUTTON.

YEAH.

SHE'S RIGHT THERE.

LIKE, LIKE JACKSON.

YEP.

SHE'S A 50% OWNER IN IT, WHILE THE OTHER PERSON IS ALSO A 50% OWNER IN IT.

WELL, I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING AN INVESTMENT SUCH AS THAT AND NOT AT LEAST KEEPING IT IN A A MANAGED CONDITION.

I REMEMBER THAT HOUSE ACROSS EACH HAVE A 50% UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN IT.

I BET YOU THEY'RE NOT AGREEING ON ANYTHING.

YEAH.

THEY'RE NOT AGREEING ON NOTHING.

YEAH, THAT'S, I WAS JUST, JEFF, THEY'RE FIGHTING ON EVERYTHING.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.

THEY EACH HAVE A 50% UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN IT.

YEP.

NEITHER OF THEM WANTS TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT BENEFITS THE OTHER.

AND NEITHER OF THEM CAN AGREE TO SELL IT OR FIX IT.

YEP.

WELL, IS THAT A STALEMATE THAT THE CITY HAS TO PUT UP WITH FOREVER? IF IT, UH, IF IT FALLS UNDER THE DELIC TYPE OF DEFINITION AND THE, UH, DANGEROUS STRUCTURE DEFINITION, UHHUH.

, YES.

THEN THE CITY WILL TAKE ACTION AND TAKE IT BEFORE THE BOARD.

OKAY.

AND HERE COMES THE, SO THE PROCEDURE AS I UNDERSTAND IT FOR THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS IS THE CITY WILL PROBABLY GO INSPECT IT AND IF THERE'S ANY COURT VIOLATION AND THE CITATIONS WOULD BE ISSUED AND THEY'LL GIVE, BE GIVEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THE CITY CAN MOVE IN AND CLEAN IT UP AND PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

NOW STYLE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT.

UH, THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS FIRST OF ALL, GETTING THE BILL OFFICIAL ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR, HE JUST CAN'T GO IN THERE RIGHT.

WITHOUT A, BUT THERE ARE VENUES THAT YOU CAN YEAH.

DUE PROCESS.

AND IT'S ALWAYS FULL OF CONTROVERSIAL PROCESS BECAUSE, UH, I'M SURE IT IS.

SO, UH, I WOULD JUST START WITH, UH, CONTACTING, UH, SENDING A LETTER TO, UH, OUR, UH, NEW, UH, DIRECTOR OF, UH, BUILDING OFFICIAL REPORTS.

THERE.

HE IS, UH, COME UP.

COULD, I MEAN, MY EXPERIENCE IS, THERE YOU GO.

'CAUSE I SEE THESE, I'M A CITY JUDGE, SO THEY BRING STUFF IN IN ANOTHER CITY.

THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE TO GET NOTICED.

THEY GET, IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THEN THEY ISSUE A SUMMONS.

THEY CAN ISSUE A CITATION AND A WARNING.

THEY EITHER DEAL WITH THAT AND TRY, THE GOAL IS TO PENALIZE THEM IN THE, AND GET THEM TO WORK IT OUT.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THAT GOES TO THE NEXT STEPS FOR CONDEMNATION.

, SORRY, THAT I I LIKE YOUR, I LIKE YOUR RING TONE.

UH, BUT I SEE THESE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.

SANDRA WOODWICK IS A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF FREEPORT.

THEN IT'S PROBABLY AN INHERITED THING AND NOBODY CAN AGREE WHAT TO DO.

AND IT'S, OTHER THAN SOMEBODY FILING A SUIT, YOU KNOW, ON REAL ESTATE, ESTATE, I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SHE'S AN INHERITOR OF THAT BECAUSE SHE INVESTED DON'T KNOW TWO THINGS ABOUT THE COST OF TEA IN CHINA.

I JUST KNOW SHE'S ONE OF THE OWNERS , SO I'M NOT GONNA SPECULATE.

OKAY.

I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, TYPICALLY THIS TYPE OF THING, THEY COME INTO OWNERSHIP OF IT THROUGH A MARRIAGE AND INHERITANCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I SEE.

WHEN YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE OWNING ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I'M PICTURING WITH THIS, WE TALKED SOMEWHAT IN THE MASTER PLAN AND DECIDED YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

BUT OUR TOWN IS AT A POINT WHERE I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE MORE AND MORE COMING UP WITH ALL THE PROPERTIES AND THE ESTATES AND SUCH, AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH 'EM.

AND I, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

I DON'T, AND THEY TOLD US, OUR CONSULTANT SAYS, YOU REALLY CAN'T COME UP WITH A PLAN, BUT, UH, IT'S A BIG ONE.

COULD YOU, IT'S, COULD YOU GIVE LITTLE PROCESS 53 53 OR NO, 5,200 SQUARE FEET.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR 10 OAK DRIVE.

OKAY.

AND WHAT'S THE CONCERN SPECIFICALLY? I'M SORRY, I WASN'T, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE PLAYING TO CATCH UP.

IT'S NOT INHABITED.

IT'S IN VERY POOR CONDITION, ISN'T THERE? AND WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S

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A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE WORTHY OF CONDEMNING? IS THAT THE QUESTION? OH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW.

IVE NOT DRIVEN BY CURB APPEAL.

I DON'T LIVE IN NORTHWOOD .

OKAY.

BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S AN INHERENT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, CLEANING UP A PROPERTY AND, UM, MAKING IT SO IT'S NOT A BLIGHT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF, OF THAT ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MINE WAS EMPTY SINCE YEAH.

BUT THE ONE, THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOURS INHERENTLY HAD A STRUCTURAL FAILURE.

YEAH.

THAT TOOK, THAT TOOK 13, 14, 15 YEARS YES.

TO GET TO THAT POINT.

YEAH.

AND IT WAS EMPTY THAT ENTIRE TIME.

BUT ONCE IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE IT WAS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE, YEAH.

THEN IT, THEN IT WENT QUICKLY OFF HAND.

THIS ONE HASN'T POPPED UP ON MY RADAR AS, AS BEING SUSPECT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE YARD NOT BEING KEPT UP, WHICH IS ON OUR RADAR BY THE WAY.

WE, WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THAT.

IT'S NOT JUST THE YARD.

HOWEVER YOU CAN TELL THAT THE ADDITION, I REMEMBER WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT AND DIDN'T HAVE THE ADDITION, IT WAS PROBABLY A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND THEY BUILT ON AT LEAST, AND NOW IT'S ABOUT 5,000 PLUS.

YES, RIGHT.

IT IS.

AND UM, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE BACK, THE OYSTER CREEK SIDE OF IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I KNOW THAT FROM THE FRONT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SCREECH MOMENT AND YOUR DRIVE ON OAK DRIVE BECAUSE IT'S TERRIBLE.

SO I DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO GO ON THE PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE, SINCE THERE ARE POSTED SIGNS, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE REASON TO GET A WARRANT TO GO ON THE PROPERTY.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE I CAN'T SEE THE BACK FROM THE PUBLIC WAY, UM, WITHOUT DUE, CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A JUDGE TO SIGN A WARRANT JUST BECAUSE DAVID KIND OF WANTS TO LOOK AT IT.

UM, SO IF WE HAD, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WAS, UH, A NEIGHBOR THAT 50 THAT COULD SEE IT FROM, FROM, UM, THE BACKSIDE OR I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT BACKS UP, IS THAT, UH, DUNBAR PARK THERE? THE CREEK, IT BACKS UP TO OYSTER CREEK.

YES.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK? OH NO, IT'S 2004.

OKAY, SO THAT'S ARROW.

ARROW, ARROWWOOD.

ARROWWOOD.

YEAH.

SO IF, IF ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ON ARROWWOOD COULD SEE THE BACK OF IT THROUGH FROM THEIR PROPERTY, THEY COULD SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT SHOWING THAT, UH, THAT THEY BELIEVE IT TO BE SUSPECT, AND THEN BASED ON THEIR AFFIDAVIT, I COULD GET A WARRANT TO GO BACK THERE FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

UM, AS IS, AND I HAVE BEEN ON THAT.

I FIRST WENT ON THAT PROPERTY DURING, UH, 2016 WHEN WE HAD OYSTER CREEK WAS AT, AT AN EXTREME ELEVATED, UH, CONDITION.

AND THERE IS A POOL BACK THERE IN A POOL HOUSE, WHICH IS BELOW THE HIGH BANK AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE 1980S.

THAT, THAT'S THE BEST I COULD FIGURE.

SO YOU KNOW HOW THAT THE, THE POOL GOT BACK THERE? NOT EXACTLY SURE.

BUT, UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN DO ABOUT THAT EITHER, UH, AT THIS POINT.

BUT 1960, YEAH.

THE, THE POOL WAS 1960.

I KNOW, I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN THE, THE POOL.

I BELIEVE I KNOW WHO THAT OWNED THAT.

YEAH.

I LOOKED BACK AT, AT, AT, I, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERMANENT INFORMATION.

ALL I HAD WAS A SITE PLAN DATING BACK INTO THE EARLY EIGHTIES THAT SHOWED THE POOL ON IT.

UM, AUTOCAD SAYS SIXTIES AND 60 AND BUILT IN 57.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, WHICH DOESN'T SURPRISE ME.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE EXISTING CONDITIONS, BUT ONCE AGAIN, UNLESS I HAVE REASON TO SUSPECT IT BEING A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND JUST BECAUSE THERE HAPPENS TO BE SOME, UM, I MEAN I HONESTLY, I HAVEN'T GONE OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOMORROW, UH, DURING MY, DURING MY TRAVELS AND AFTER OUR BUDGET HEARING.

UM, WITHOUT THERE BEING SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY SAYS THAT BUILDING IS IN FAILURE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY REASON OR RECOURSE TO GO ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT BEING IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.

MM-HMM.

.

I SEE.

IS THERE ANY ABILITY FOR, UM, US TO LOOK FROM THE OYSTER FROM OYSTER CREEK? WELL, I'VE GOT A CANOE.

I'D LOVE TO GO.

I'M GREAT AT CANOE.

OYSTER CREEK IS THE, IS A BODY OF THE STATE.

RIGHT.

IT IS A WATER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEREFORE A PERSON COULD VIEW IT FROM, FROM THE BACKSIDE.

UM, I GUESS, I MEAN THAT WOULD BE UP TO WHETHER OR NOT A, A JUDGE WOULD ALLOW THAT AS A AVENUE.

BUT ANYONE, ANY CITIZEN.

SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY IS TRAVERSING OYSTER CREEK DRIVE, THEY COULD TAKE PICTURES.

I THINK POSSIBILITY TO, TO, IF ANYTHING HAPPENING LIKE THAT IS, IF THAT POOL DID NOT HAVE PROPER ENCLOSURE, WELL THERE IS A SCREEN ENCLOSURE AROUND THAT POOL.

IS THERE, THERE BACK IN, BACK IN 2016 WHEN I SAW IT, AND I DID, YOU KNOW, ON GO DOWN THERE SEVERAL OCCASIONS BECAUSE I WAS CHECKING THE CONDITION OF, OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, AT THE TIME OF THE, THE FLOODING.

BUT I HAD REASON TO BE BACK THERE AT THAT TIME.

UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT REASON TODAY.

OKAY.

BUT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE, IF THEY COULD VIEW IT, THEY COULD SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT, THEY COULD PROVIDE,

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UH, THEIR OWN PHOTO DOCUMENTATION.

THAT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH FOR ME TO USE THAT IN A, UM, ABATEMENT.

BUT I WOULD GIVE ME JUST REASON TO GET A WARRANT THAT I COULD GO TAKE MY OWN DOCUMENTATION.

OKAY.

LOCKS DAY.

I DON'T ONE OF THOSE VERY NEAR THERE.

OH, LOCK.

HUH? DOES LOCK LIVE THERE? CLOSE TO HE LIVES? HE MIGHT, IF HE TOOK HIS DAD'S HOUSE, HE LIVES FURTHER THE OTHER DIRECTION? NO, HE WAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

HE'S TWO HOUSES, THREE HOUSES DOWN.

HE'S TWO OR THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT FELL.

HE MIGHT LIVE NEXT TO LOCKE .

HE MIGHT, HE MIGHT.

IT TRULY MIGHT BE NEXT TO WHERE I RECALL HIM LIVING.

I THINK THIS IS THE FELLOW THAT WAS A SINGLE GUY IN THE SEVENTIES THAT HAD SO MUCH MONEY THAT, UH, HE NEVER CASHED HIS DOW CHECKS AND THEY HAD TO KEEP TELLING HIM CASH YOUR CHECKS.

HE OWNED HIS SHOPPING CENTER IN HOUSTON.

OH, OKAY.

I WONDER WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FILLING US IN ON MA'AM.

FOUR 10 OAK.

MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE A SIGNATURE

[10. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS]

OF DOCUMENTS TODAY AND SO LET'S ALL MAKE OUR WAY.

THREE, FOUR.

OKAY.

THEN I THINK THAT THIS COMMISSION MEETING IS DONE.

DONE.

I WOULDN'T LIKE AT OUR AGE, YOU DON'T SAY DONE .

FINISHED .

I DON'T WANNA SAY FINISHED EITHER.

THAT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF MINUTE.

I'M 66.

I.