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OKAY, IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO SIX 30 ON MY COMPUTER HERE.
[Call to Order]
WE'LL BEGIN THE MEETING OF THE, UH, LAKE TEXAS CITY COUNCIL, UH, MONDAY, JUNE 3RD, 2024.THIS IS A REGULAR SESSION BEGINNING AT 6:30 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.
UH, WELCOME EVERYONE, UH, TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE, UH, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILMAN BRASS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS ONE MISSION UNDER GOD, INDI VISIBLE LIBERTY, HONOR, TEXAS GOD INVOCATION.
THIS EVENING WILL BE DELIVERED BY COUNCILMAN FUEL.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HERE THIS EVENING, AND OUR MEETING PROGRESSES AND DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.
WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US THE STRENGTH, COURAGE, AND WISDOM TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR FAMILY, OUR RESIDENTS.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FIRST ARMED FORCES, AS WELL AS THE EMT PERSONNEL FIREFIGHTERS.
AND BE WITH US IN EACH AND WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AS WE TRAVEL HOME.
[VISITOR COMMENTS]
THE AGENDA IS VISITORS COMMENTS.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON EITHER AGENDA, EITHER CONSENT AGENDA OR REGULAR AGENDA.
AND, UH, JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU, UH, BRING AN ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL, WE CANNOT DEBATE IT OR DISCUSS IT.
WE CAN JUST, UH, LISTEN AND, UH, IF NECESSARY, WE'LL PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
SO, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, UH, AS VISITOR'S COMMENTS? MR. HOFFMAN, YOU'D REQUESTED TO SPEAK, UH, AT VISITOR'S COMMENTS, BUT YOUR ITEM IS REALLY AN ACTION, AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO I'D RATHER THAT GIVES YOU OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS TO YOU ALSO, SO IT'S BE BETTER, BETTER FOR YOU.
STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR HONOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JOHN BURNSON AND I'M A HOMEOWNER AT 1 2 6 TULIP TRAIL TAX PAYING CITIZEN LAW ABIDING CITIZEN.
AND I KNOW THIS COMES UP OCCASIONALLY AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH OF OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THAT, LIKE I SAY, IN THE PAST YOU'VE HAD, UH, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, THE, THE TRACK OF LAND THAT AN OWNER HAS, UH, NEAR THE AIRPORT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE TRIED TO COME IN AND, UH, TRY TO WORK TO GET SOMETHING MOVING ON THAT.
AND I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE BETWEEN THE OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE, AND THE CITY.
BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK Y'ALL TO JUST HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT, ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH OF OUR, OF OUR TOWN.
AND THIS LOOKS LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LAST OPPORTUNITY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S, THERE'S THAT PAR PARCEL OF LAND SITTING OUT THERE JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING.
SO I JUST, I JUST ASK FOR YOU, ASK YOU IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THAT COMES UP AGAIN, I'M SURE IT WILL AT SOME POINT.
JUST PLEASE BE OPEN ABOUT IT AND THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR, OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH,
[DECLARATIONOF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST]
DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON EITHER OF THE AGENDAS.
SO, IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT NEEDS TO DECLARE A CONTRA CONFLICT OF INTEREST? UH,
[CONSENT AGENDA]
HEARING ANNUAL WILL GO TO CONSENT.AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVE MINUTES.
ITEM TWO EXCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSIONS MINUTES.
UH, KEEP LAKE JACKSON BEAUTIFUL.
ITEM THREE IS APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 2 8 5.
AMENDING CHAPTER 1 0 2 TO ENABLE THE CITY TO FILE A LIEN AGAINST NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES, UH, FOR DELINQUENT CITY UTILITY ACCOUNTS.
SECOND READING ITEM FOUR, APPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT OF CROW LLP, UH, AS THE CITY'S AUDIT FIRM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 20, 24.
AND THE AMOUNT NOT EXCEEDING $69,000.
NUMBER FIVE, APPROVE THE ACCIDENT REVIEW BOARD POLICY BY LISTING THE, UH, HUMANE RESOURCE, RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AND UPDATING THE MEETING, UH, IN TIME.
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AND ITEM SIX, APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CLUT, UH, ALLOWING THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON'S CDL TRAINING PROGRAM.IS THERE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, UH, AGENDA THAT, UH, ANY ITEM THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MR. MAYOR, I'LL MOVE THE REAPPROVED CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX AS PRESENTED SECOND.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SHANYA AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[1. Discuss RFP results and award a contract to Texas Health Benefits for health, dental, vision, life, and LTD insurance. - Jose Sanchez]
YOU.MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA, DISCUSS, UH, RFP RESOLUTION AND AWARD, A CONTRACT TO TEXAS HEALTH, UH, BENEFITS FOR, UH, HEALTH, DENTAL, VISION, UH, LIFE AND LTD INSURANCE.
JOSE MAYOR, COUNSEL, I THINK WE GOT IT.
GOT A LITTLE POWERPOINT FOR Y'ALL.
CONCERNING HOW IT WENT ABOUT THIS FOR THE RFP, WE GOT THREE PROPOSALS BACK ON THIS FROM TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS, WHICH USED TO BE TML HEALTH, HAGEN, BOSTON, AND COMMERCIAL BENEFITS SERVICES.
GO TO THE NEXT PAGE FOR ME PLEASE.
WHAT TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS CAME BACK WITH IS OUR CURRENT PROGRAM BENEFITS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EVERYTHING STAYING THE SAME, JUST WITH A MINUS 3% ON THE PREMIUMS. THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT BENEFIT PLAN IS RIGHT NOW FOR US, THIS IS WHAT HIGGIN PRESENTED THROUGH CURATIVE AND ONE THROUGH EMI HEALTH.
THE MI HEALTH IS WHAT'S APPLES TO APPLES, WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY, WHAT THE BENEFITS IS WITH THE $750 DEDUCTIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE COST IS RIGHT THERE.
WHAT IS THE COST? WHAT IS THE COST, JOSE? 7 62 17 PER EMPLOYEE VERSUS WHAT WE'VE GOT 790 FROM, UH, TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS.
FOR WHICH ONE? THE HIGGIN B ABOUT THE WHICH? BOTH OF THEM.
I DIDN'T DO WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE ON OUR NEW PLAN STARTING 24 FOR, UH, TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS FOR MONTHLY FOR A SPOUSE WOULD BE 7 21 94 CHILDREN, 5 32 70 AND FAMILY 13 66, 76.
YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN YOU SEE THE QUOTES, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
UM, USUALLY THE PROVIDERS, THEY QUOTE EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE, THEY'RE COUNTING THAT.
SO YOU REALLY, SO WHEN YOU WANT TO JUST SEE THE INDIVIDUAL, YOU HAVE TO SUBTRACT THE BASE RATE FROM THE EMPLOYEE PORTION.
FROM THE, THE EMPLOYEE RATE FROM FROM THAT THE, THEY ALL, UH, THE CITY PICKS UP THE COMPLETE, UH, EMPLOYEE PORTION AND THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SPOUSE.
SO LIKE ON THE, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHILDREN RATE FOR TAKE SELF BENEFIT, YOU WOULD'VE TO TAKE THAT 1233 AND SUBTRACT 790 FROM IT.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME WAY FOR THE OTHER ONES AS WELL.
YOU JUST SUBTRACT WHATEVER THE EMPLOYEE ONLY IS FROM THE OTHER RIGHTS.
IS THE CITY STILL PART OF THE, UH, COUNTY PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE ALSO? CORRECT.
WITH THE ANGLETON CLINIC? YES.
THE ONE WHO COOPERATES IT, BUT IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE URGENT CARE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN.
SO THEY CAN'T GO TO THE ONE HERE IN TOWN TO HAVE TO GO TO.
THEY CAN, BUT THE URGENT CARE PRE, UH, COPAY WILL GO INTO EFFECT.
SO WE WORKING ON THAT ONE, UH, EVERY DAY.
BUT THE CLINIC IS SEPARATE REALLY FROM THE CORRECT.
'CAUSE WE OPERATE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE COUNTY.
YEAH, WE PIGGYBACK OFF OF THERE.
I'M, I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY WHY I WAS ASKING.
AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL THING FOR US WITH THEM, WITH OUR HEALTH RISK ASSESSMENTS.
WE HAVE 92%, UH, OF OUR POPULATION THAT DO THEIR HRA ANNUALLY, WHICH IS GREAT.
'CAUSE TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS ENDS UP GIVING 'EM $150, UH, CHECK FOR DOING THAT.
AND A, YOU CALL IT A LITTLE SURVEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO IT'S LIKE A WILL IN THIS PROGRAM.
AND JOSE, CAN YOU GO OVER THE, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CURATIVE QUOTE? THE CURATIVE QUOTE IS A DIFFERENT ONE.
AND THE WAY THEY BROKE IT DOWN ON THIS ONE, THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PLANS ON IT.
THE PPO PLUS PPO AND THEN EPO, WHICH THE EPO SEEMS, I GUESS TO BE LIKE
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ANOTHER FORM OF LIKE EDGE MO TYPE DEAL.AND KIND OF THE WAY THEY BROKE IT DOWN IS THEY DIDN'T REALLY SELECT ONE.
THEY KIND OF REALLY, WHAT I'M GUESSING IS SELECTED THE EPO AND EMPLOYEES COULD BUY UP FROM THAT PLAN.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SEEING THEIR SAVINGS ON THAT DEAL.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
THIS IS WITH WHAT THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE.
AND THE PPO PLAN IS MUCH BETTER, MORE WIDELY ACCEPTABLE TO USE THAN THE HMO OR THE EPO PLAN IS? YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO DO A DISRUPTIVE ANALYSIS TO SEE AND THE GEO AXIS TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO OUR CURRENT NETWORK WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND SEE ARE THESE PEOPLE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO HERE WITH THIS? FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER CITY THAT I I ATTEND MEETINGS WITH AND THEY WERE ALWAYS HAPPY WITH.
UH, IT WAS LIKE HMO THROUGH A CERTAIN, UH, MEDICAL PROVIDER.
AND NOW THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEW MANAGEMENT THERE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME RESULTS THAT THEY USED TO GET.
AND NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THE WHITE GLOVE RESULTS THAT THEY USED TO HAVE.
NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF STUCK IN WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.
AND SO NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO THINK ABOUT POSSIBLY GOING OUT A TRADITIONAL HMO VERSUS ESPECIALLY H HMO.
AND IT, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH SELL ON THAT DEAL.
SO THE RATES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT PLAN.
AND THEN TO CHARGE PEOPLE MORE FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT PLAN, IT'S A TOUGH SELL FOR OUR FOLKS.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE TO THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.
WE'RE NOT THE HIGHEST PAID ENTITY OUT HERE, EVEN WITH CITIES OR, OR OTHER SECTIONS HERE.
BUT OUR BENEFITS ARE, ARE REALLY, WOW.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO SAY, OH, OKAY, I CAN RETIRE FROM HERE.
JOSE, WHAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT, UM, PERCENTAGE OF OUR EMPLOYEES TAKE THE CITY INSURANCE VERSUS BEING INSURED BY A SPOUSE? OUT OF 200 AND LET'S SAY, I THINK PROBABLY 38 THAT I HAVE ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO 98%, 99%, WHICH IS A GOOD INDICATOR.
THEY'RE YEAH, IT'S A BETTER THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE.
AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, IT WAS AWESOME WHENEVER I FIRST GOT HERE WITH BILL AND MODESTO GOT TASKED ME TO DO, WAS TO GET IN INTO THE COUNTY CLINIC WITH, UH, BUT AT THE TIME IT WAS, UH, CARE HERE NOW NEXT LEVEL.
BUT WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT EVER HAVE EVER DONE THIS.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT US TO DO THE SAME THING IS WITH US.
BUT YOUR FAMILY, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, THEY CAN STILL GO, YOUR DEPENDENTS CAN STILL GO TO THE CLINIC.
THERE'S NO OTHER ENTITY THAT I KNOW OF THAT DOES THAT.
SO IS THAT YOU HAD A COMMITTEE LOOK AT THE
THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS AND THE SCORE SHEETS AT THE VERY END, IF YOU GO COMMERCIAL BENEFIT SERVICES, THEY CAME IN AT THE 11TH HOUR, THE THURSDAY BEFORE IT WAS DUE THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY.
AND THEY WANTED AN EXTENSION AND THEY WERE JUST ASKING FOR THINGS AND I REALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR 'EM.
I SENT 'EM THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD ALREADY SENT OUT, BUT I WASN'T GONNA GIVE AN EXTENSION WHENEVER WE ALREADY HAD THINGS COMING IN AT THAT TIME.
IF YOU GO TO THE LAST PAGE, THAT'S THE GRADING SHEET AND THAT IS THE EVALUATIONS RIGHT THERE.
AND WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL FEEDBACK BEEN FROM YOUR EMPLOYEES? GOOD.
ON THE CURRENT PROGRAM? VERY GOOD.
EVERYBODY LIKES BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
THEY HAD A NEW OPTION THAT WE HAD, UH, PAST YEAR SURGERY PLUS, WHICH, BECAUSE I GOT MY REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS, IF YOU NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE SAME THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH HAVING SURGERY.
PLUS IT'S JUST BEEN WORKING OUT REALLY WELL.
I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE SENT OUT WAS A TWO YEAR LOOK BACK OF OUR CLAIMS. AND I MEAN, WITH OUR CLINIC AND JUST HONESTLY WITH OUR STAFF, AND WE'RE A BIG FAMILY HERE AT LAKE JACKSON, WE JUST STAY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YEAH.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING REAL WELL.
IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THIS AND TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT FOR AN RFP, THE COMPLAINT DIDN'T COME FROM THE PRODUCT.
AND, UM, MAYBE ON OCCASION WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE COST FOR FAMILY, BUT IT WASN'T THE COMPLAINT ON THE PRODUCT AS A WHOLE, IT WAS THE COST FOR CHILDREN INSURANCE, JUST THE COST PREMIUM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH EVERYBODY FROM, WE HAVE A $750 DEDUCTIBLE OVER HERE AT LAKE JACKSON, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT.
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WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, JOSE WAS ABLE TO, WELL, WE, WE PAID FOR IT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO, AT THE EMPLOYEE CLINIC, WE'VE INCLUDED THE ABILITY FOR EMPLOYEES TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO WHETHER THEY HAVE INSURANCE OR NOT.RIGHT? NOW, IF THEY GOTTA GO ELSEWHERE, GO SEE A SPECIALIST, GO SEE ANOTHER DOCTOR, GO GET SOME MEDICINE, THEN THAT'S ON THE EMPLOYEE.
BUT YOUR, SO WE HAVE KIDS, YOUR SPOUSE, SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE COST OF HAVING CHILDREN INSURED IS CORRECT.
ALLOWING THEM TO GO TO THE SAME CLINIC, AT LEAST FOR BASIC NEEDS.
THAT'S A HUGE PERK, RIGHT? IT IT IS.
AND THEY APPRECIATE IT TREMENDOUSLY.
SO THANK Y'ALL FOR PROVIDING THAT FOR OUR FOLKS.
I KNOW I, I, I THINK THE OTHER GROUP WANTS TO TALK, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOSE FOR RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S OUR EXPERIENCE MODIFIER FOR THIS INSURANCE FOR THE COST? IS IT PRETTY LOW OR FOR THE MODIFIER FOR THEM? YEAH.
THERE'S NOT A MODIFIER ON YOU MADE.
THAT'S NOT A OKAY, THAT'S 0.84.
WE ARE, I MEAN, WE ARE CYCLICAL.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL A SMALL GROUP.
PART OF THE REASON I, I THINK WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF TML FOR 45 YEARS.
UM, AND SO, UH, JUST FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES, THE TMO GROUP IS A GROUP OF CITIES.
AND SO IT'S A NONPROFIT, UM, CO CO-OP.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR 45 YEARS.
UM, BUT SO WE'RE POOLED WITH THE CITIES, BUT WE STILL HAVE OUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
AND SO IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVEN OUR OWN HIGH CLAIMS THAT CAN AFFECT US FROM YEAR TO YEAR, AND SO WE STILL HAVE A SMALL POPULATION.
SO ONE OR TWO BAD CLAIMS CAN INFECT US IN THE NEXT YEAR OF A RATE CYCLE.
UH, THAT'S JUST PART FROM THE COURSE THAT I WAS REFERRING, THAT THE COST USAGE COST 10, 10% OF YOUR POPULATION USUALLY RUNS YOUR CLAIMS. YEAH.
UH, MR. HOFFMAN, DO YOU MIND I HAVE A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES
JUST DON'T SPEAK OVER EACH OTHER.
UH, MY NAME IS JAMES HOFFMAN HOL MC ROGERS.
UH, MAYOR ROSOVSKY, MARVEL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GUESTS.
UH, I'M HERE BECAUSE, UH, I WANT TO SHED A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, I GUESS, ON THE PROCESS.
UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.
I'M A BORN AND RAISED NATIVE OF LAKE JACKSON.
UH, GREW UP OFF OF Y POND, UH, WHITE OAK DRIVE.
UM, MY NAME IS JAMES HOFFMAN, LIKE I ALREADY SAID.
I'M A MANAGING DIRECTOR WITH HIGGINBOTHAM INSURANCE.
HIGGINBOTHAM IS BASED IN TEXAS AND HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1948.
WE WORK WITH OVER 400 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN TEXAS, MANY MUNICIPALITIES, PUBLIC ENTITIES, AS WELL AS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PRIVATE ENTITIES.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME I HAVE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED A CITY COUNCIL.
UH, TONIGHT YOU HEARD ABOUT THE RECENT RFP FOR MEDICAL BENEFITS AND, AND THE PRESUMPTIVE AWARD TO TML HEALTH FOR THE UPCOMING PLAN YEAR.
UH, AS YOU SAW, WE ALSO RESPONDED TO THE RFP.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT WAS HOW THE PROCESS WAS CONDUCTED AND, UH, A COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
I'M HERE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AS I TRUST THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A FULLY INFORMED DISPASSIONATE DECISION.
TO THAT END, I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH A TIMELINE AND FACTS RELATED TO THE PROCESS.
UH, BUT BEFORE I GET TO THE TIMELINE, A LITTLE BACKGROUND I THINK WOULD HELP US ALL.
LAST YEAR WHEN THE RFP WAS RELEASED, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST TIME Y'ALL HAD DONE SO IN A LONG TIME.
UH, MY COLLEAGUE LUKE AND I MET WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND LEARNED THAT NO OTHER OPTIONS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED LAST YEAR.
ASIDE FROM THE INCUMBENT TML AND TEXAS HEALTH, THIS COULD BE EXPLAINED A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
NO, NO BROKERAGE CONSULTANCY SUPPORT, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY FROM TML OR MISPLACED RFP ADVERTISEMENTS, WHATEVER THE CASE, NOT RECEIVING ANY RESPONSES TO AN RFP, LIKE THIS IS IN AN ANOMALY IN AN AREA WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF FRIENDSWOOD JUST DOWN THE ROAD, ONE OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR EXERCISE AND RECEIVED COMPETITIVE RESPONSES FROM EVERY MAJOR CARRIER, EVEN THOUGH THEIR LOSS RATIO WAS SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON DURING.
AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, THE EXPERIENCE MODIFIER, THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON'S CLAIMS RATIO, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE USE ON THE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT SIDE, WAS 60% THIS YEAR.
THAT MEANS THAT THEY PAID 60% OF THE PREMIUMS THEY PAID TO TML AND TEXAS HEALTH WERE PAID OUT IN CLAIMS. THE OTHER 40% WENT TO PROFIT AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, ET CETERA.
UM, DURING THE COURSE OF THE FOLLOWING 12 MONTHS, WE MET WITH CITY OFFICIALS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR GOALS, BETTER SERVICE, LOWER COSTS, UH, AND HOW WE COULD COLLECTIVELY SEE ADDITIONAL RESULTS.
WHEN THE RFP CAME UP IN 2024, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, UNITED HEALTHCARE, CIGNA, AETNA ARE THE CARRIERS WE REFER TO AS THE BUCA CARRIERS, BUCA.
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PRETTY SIMPLE.THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME GENERAL UNDERWRITING GUIDELINES, OR IN OTHER WORDS, A COMPLETE SUBMISSION.
AND THE REQUIRED INFORMATION NEEDED TO PROVIDE COMPETITIVE QUOTES.
MINIMALLY, THOSE CARRIERS REQUIRE MEMBER LEVEL, CENSUS NAMES, DATE OF BIRTH, GENDER, ZIP CODE, AND THEIR ELECTIONS, LARGE CLAIMS REPORT AND PREM VERSUS PAID CLAIMS REPORT.
THIS IS THE INFORMATION WE COLLECT AND SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENTS.
WITHOUT THIS INFORMATION, THE CARRIER'S UNDERWRITING UNIT WILL DECLINE TO QUOTE, DUE TO THE LACK OF INFORMATION, CARRIERS NEED A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS WITH ALL OF THE DATA TO PROVIDE A QUOTE TYPICALLY WITH THAT BACKGROUND STATE.
HERE'S A, A TIMELINE OF THE EVENTS FOR THIS RFP ON APRIL 12TH, 2024, THE RFP WAS POSTED.
THERE WAS NO CENSUS DATA, AND THERE WAS NO CLAIMS AT THAT POINT.
THE RFP WAS UNAC WAS NOT ACTIONABLE DUE TO THIS MISSING INFORMATION.
ON MAY 3RD, 2024, PARTIAL CENSUS AND PARTIAL CLAIMS WERE PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
HOWEVER, THE CENSUS WAS MISSING DATES OF BIRTH NAMES AND THE LARGE CLAIMS REPORT PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 2015.
SO THAT WAS THREE WEEKS LATER AFTER IT HAD BEEN RELEASED WITH A DUE DATE OF MAY 13TH ON MAY 6TH, SO MAY 3RD WAS A FRIDAY, MAY 6TH IS A MONDAY.
THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED FROM THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, UM, AND ON MAY 8TH, UH, CITY, WE WERE INFORMED, UM, BY THE CITY THAT THEY, UH, ARE NOT INTERESTED IN A STANDALONE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD QUOTATION.
UM, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DOWN MAY 9TH, THEY INFORMED US THAT WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING THE LARGE CLAIMS INFORMATION FROM TML NOR A FULL CENSUS, A COMPLETE CENSUS FROM, UH, FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN ON MAY 9TH, THE SAME DAY, WE DID PROVIDE A NOTE THAT THE CITY OF LAKE JACK TO THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON REGARDING THE LAW, HB HOUSE BILL 2015, REGARDING, UH, THE LAW REQUIRING TML AND TEXAS HEALTH TO PROVIDE CLAIMS, UM, AND ADVISE THAT FEW, IF ANY RESPONSES WOULD BE RECEIVED WITHOUT IT ON MAY, UH, ON MAY 13TH, 2024, THE RFP CLOSED WITHOUT ANY RESPONSES FROM THE BUCA CARRIERS, THE ONES WE, THE BRAND NAMES WE ALL KNOW.
UM, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ONLY, AND, AND WHAT WAS PROVEN TODAY WAS THAT THE ONLY NON TML RESPONSE RECEIVED WAS, WAS OUR OWN.
EVERY CARRIER WE SPOKE TO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE CURATIVE AND FELIPE CANT, TWO, IS, IS A REPRESENTATIVE WITH CURATIVE.
UM, THE INSURANCE CARRIER, UH, STATED IN WRITING THAT THEY NEEDED EITHER THE COMPLETE CENSUS OR LARGE CLAIMS OR BOTH TO PROVIDE A QUOTE.
IN THE END, WE WERE TOLD THAT OUR PROPOSED PLAN WAS NOT CHOSEN BASED ON A GRADING SCALE, UH, THAT WE HAVE NOW SEEN.
BUT IT WAS A GRADING SCALE THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RFP.
UM, AND TO WITHHOLD THE GRADING SCALE OR RUBRIC FROM THE RFP IS UNCOMMON IN PUBLIC RFPS AND NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, FRANKLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WHILE THE RFP WAS RELEASED TIMELY ON APRIL 12TH, IT WAS UNACTIONABLE AND DID NOT HAVE ANY OF THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED TO START THE PROCESS.
PARTIAL INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED ON MAY 3RD, LEAVING ONLY ONE WEEK AND ONE BUSINESS DAY TO ATTEMPT TO COMPLETE A PROCESS THAT USUALLY TAKES A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS WITH A COMPLETE DATA SET.
THE SAME LIMITED INFORMATION THAT WAS USED FOR LAST YEAR'S RFP WAS THE SAME OR LESS THAT WAS RELEASED THIS YEAR, WHICH MAY BE WHY THE ONLY SUBMISSION WAS FROM THE INCUMBENT WHO IS THE ONLY ENTITY WITH THE FULL DATA SET ITEM.
1.1 OF THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES IS TO IMPROVE THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS PLAN AND REDUCE THE COST OF DEPENDENT CARE INSURANCE.
LIKE WE JUST HEARD AT THIS MEETING LAST YEAR REGARDING THE COST OF INSURANCE, IT WAS STATED BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND I QUOTE, YOU CAN EXPECT TO GO UP DOUBLE DIGITS EVERY YEAR.
IN THE SAME MEETING LAST YEAR, MAYORS ROSOVSKY ENCOURAGED THE CITY OFFICIALS PRESENTING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
WE'RE PROUD TO PRESENT A GREAT OPTION THAT IMPROVES BENEFITS AND CUTS COSTS DESPITE THE LACK OF INFORMATION AND COMPACTED TIMELINE.
HIGGINBOTHAM PRESENTED A UNIQUE COMPETITIVE PROPOSAL IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE OF OUR CARRIER PARTNERS.
CURATIVE IS A NEWER CARRIER IN THE MARKET.
THEY, THAT IS A MINUS RATED BY AM, BEST WITH A STABLE FINANCIAL FOOTING.
THEY HAVE A STRONG NETWORK IN LAKE JACKSON IN GREATER HOUSTON.
UH, THE GEO ACCESS REPORT WAS MENTIONED AND, UH, IT, IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERAGE.
UM, WHENEVER WE RAN THAT, I WOULD PUT MY OWN FAMILY WITH THEM, INCLUSIVE OF MY PREGNANT WIFE AND TWO DAUGHTERS.
UNIQUELY CURATIVE IS OFFERING A PLAN THAT HAS BEEN EVALUATED BY ACTUARIES, AND WHEN IT WAS STATED THAT IT IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, THAT IS A FACTUAL STATEMENT BECAUSE IT IS ACTUARILY RATED AS 26% BETTER OR, OR PROVIDES 26% MORE VALUE THAN THE PLAN.
THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON CURRENTLY OFFERS.
THE CURATIVE PLAN OFFERS $0 OUT OF POCKET COSTS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES AND FAMILIES.
OKAY, LET'S ZERO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STOP THERE.
RATED BETTER BY WHOM? BY ACTUARIAL VALUES.
SO WE HAD ACTUARIES, THEY COMPARED YOUR PLAN VERSUS THE CURATIVE PLAN.
AND SO, UH, A DOLLAR YOU PUT IN PREMIUM INTO THE CURATIVE PLAN, AND A DOLLAR YOU PUT INTO THE PLAN WITH, UH, YOUR CURRENT PLAN, YOU'LL GET
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26% MORE VALUE OUT OF THAT PLAN FROM THE CURATIVE PLAN.NOW, NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA USE INSURANCE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE ACTUARIES COME IN AND USE THE, THE ART AND SCIENCE OF, UM, ACTUARIAL UNDERWRITING.
AND WHAT DOES STRONG NETWORK MEAN? 'CAUSE SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WORK FOR MEMORIAL HERMAN, THEY'VE GOT A STRONG NETWORK, BUT WITHIN THE MEMORIAL HERMAN SYSTEM, SO THEY DON'T SEND YOU TO METHODIST OR, YOU KNOW, CHI OR SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES.
A STRONG NETWORK MEANS THAT MEMORIAL HERMAN METHODIST, C-H-I-C-H-I, ST.
LUKE'S BRAZOSPORT MEMORIAL, WHERE I WAS BORN.
MM-HMM,
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG, THAT'S THE ONE WE ALWAYS HEAR, RIGHT? IF YOU GET CANCER, EVERYONE WANTS TO GO TO MD ANDERSON.
AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DEDUCTIBLE? BECAUSE IT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A ZERO OPTION AND A 5,000 OPTION.
SO THAT'S A, IT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT CURATIVE.
SO, AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
UM, THE, THE BASELINE IS $0, EVERYTHING.
SO THE WAY CURATIVE WORKS IS YOU OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T GET, NOTHING'S FREE IN THIS LIFE AND, AND SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR, BUT IT'S A PRETTY LOW BAR FOR WHAT YOU, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE $0.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR, UM, IT'S NOT AN AND, SORRY, IT'S AN EITHER OR.
SO, STARTING OUT, SO Y'ALL'S EFFECTIVE DATE IS OCTOBER 1ST.
STARTING OUT, EVERY EMPLOYEE HAS $0 OUT OF POCKET COSTS.
NOT, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING.
THEY HAVE 120 DAYS FROM THAT DATE TO COMPLETE WHAT'S CALLED THE BASELINE VISIT.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES TO SPEAK TO A CURATIVE REPRESENTATIVE.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY TWO CONVERSATIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO A CARE COORDINATOR WHO'S GONNA WALK THEM THROUGH HOW TO ACCESS THEIR INSURANCE, HOW TO USE IT, HOW TO BE A BETTER CONSUMER OF THEIR HEALTHCARE.
THE SECOND CONVERSATION IS GONNA BE A CONVERSATION WITH A CLINICIAN.
IT'S HIPAA, IT'S HELD IN HIPAA, CONFIDENTIALITY, SAME AS A DOCTOR.
AND THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO THAT EMPLOYEE ABOUT WHAT'S SPECIFICALLY GOING ON WITH THEM.
AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYEE WILL EX WE EXPECT THEM TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, HEY, I HAVE, I HAVE DIABETES.
THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY BIG ONE.
AND, AND MANAGING DIABETES IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THE COST OF MANAGING IT IS A FRACTION OF THE COST OF, OF NOT MANAGING IT AND THEN HAVING TO HAVE A, A, A LEG AMPUTATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T TAKING THEIR INSULIN.
SO IS THAT DONE ANNUALLY OR JUST ONCE? ONE TIME WHEN IT IS DONE ANNUALLY, BUT THEY HAVE 120 GRACE, 120 DAY GRACE PERIOD.
SO EVERY, EVERYONE GETS IT FOR FREE.
AND THEN IF THEY DON'T DO IT, AND IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN IT DOES REVERT TO, UM, A $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE, 7,000 OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUM.
CURRENTLY, YOUR OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUM IS $5,000 FOR THE RECORD.
CAN, CAN THE, UM, THE FIRST VISIT YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, THAT'S MORE OR LESS JUST EXPLAINING HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS AND HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM STUFF.
CAN THAT BE DONE AS A GROUP, OR DOES IT STILL HAS TO BE DONE INDIVIDUALLY? IT'S DONE INDIVIDUALLY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE AS A GROUP.
FELIPE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
IT CAN BE DONE, UM, IN A GROUP SETTING, MEANING WE CAN SET THIS BASELINE VISIT VIRTUALLY, UH, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
MEANING IF WE SET SOMETHING UP AND, UM, THE EMPLOYEES WANT TO COME IN AND DO THAT BASELINE VISIT IN A SECURE AREA, RIGHT.
VIRTUALLY, THAT'S THE WAY IT CAN BE DONE.
IT CAN'T BE DONE IN A GROUP SETTING BECAUSE OF THE HIPAA.
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE FIRST PART.
AGAIN, THE EXPLANATION WAS THAT WAS MORE OF A HERE'S HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS AND THIS IS HOW YOU GET INTO IT, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT BECAUSE THE VISIT GOES HAND IN HAND, THE CLINICIAN PORTION OF IT AND THE CARE NAVIGATOR PORTION OF IT, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST STREAMLINED TO JUST BE A ONE HOUR, 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR LONG.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY TWO VISITS.
IT'S ONE VISIT THAT HANDLES TWO THINGS.
IT'S ALL DONE DURING ONE VISIT.
45 MINUTES AND IT'S ALL DONE VIRTUALLY, IS IT CAN BE DONE 24 HOURS A DAY? WE ARE, WE ARE EXTENDING SOME HOURS.
UM, TYPICALLY IT IS DURING THE BUSINESS, UH, HOURS.
UH, THE VIRTUAL PART OF THE CLINICIAN, OR EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, CARE NAVIGATOR PORTION CAN BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.
IT'S A CLINICIAN PART THAT IS ACTUALLY DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
ALSO ON THE WEEKENDS IT CAN BE DONE.
SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYEE OR YOUR PATIENT.
AND THEN THAT EMPLOYEE OR PATIENT HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE PHYSICIAN.
THE, AND THAT PERSON IS GONNA BE THE PERSON WHO'S SEEN THEIR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING, SEEN THEIR LAB WORK, KNOWS THEIR MEDICAL HISTORY.
SO THEN WE'RE ADDING A THIRD LAYER, WHICH IS THE INSURANCE COMPANY PHYSICIAN.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE ADDED A THIRD LAYER FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS NOT ACTUALLY TAKEN CARE OF THE PATIENT.
UM, WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT MEETING HAVE ON THE OVERALL PICTURE? SO IF I SAY, YEAH, I'M, I'M HYPERTENSIVE, I'M DIABETIC, I HAVE HYPOTHYROID, I'VE GOT ALL THESE ISSUES.
WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT? WELL, IT, I LIKE TO BE CLEAR, THE BASELINE VISIT DOES NOT TAKE PLACE OF AN ANNUAL DOCTOR'S VISIT.
SO WHAT IS ITS PURPOSE? THE PURPOSE IS FOR A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE DOCTOR IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR US
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TO BE ABLE TO JUMPSTART THAT VISIT.NOW THAT FINANCIAL BARRIER IS COMPLETELY GONE.
NOW YOU CAN FEEL CONFIDENT IN GOING TO THE DOCTOR IF, GOD FORBID SOMETHING IS FOUND AND YOU DON'T HAVE A DOCTOR, GUESS WHAT? THAT CARE NAVIGATOR IS THERE TO HELP YOU FIND A DOCTOR.
THAT CARE NAVIGATOR IS REALLY THERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLAN.
INSTEAD OF US JUST MAILING YOU A SALES PACKET OR A, UH, WELCOME PACKET AND SAYING, GOOD LUCK.
THE BASELINE VISIT IS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS EARLY ENGAGEMENT, EARLY INVOLVEMENT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, PREVENTATIVE.
WE WANT FOLKS TO BE USING THEIR HEALTH.
THE ACA A, THE A CA HEALTHCARE REQUIREMENTS ARE, PREVENTATIVE HEALTHCARE IS COVERED AT NO COST FOR MOST INSURANCE COMPANIES ANYWAYS.
ANNUAL VISIT TO THEIR DOCTORS.
SO WOULD IT COVERED, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE? I KNOW A LOT OF INSURANCE COMPANIES DO.
FOR EXAMPLE, MY COMPANY'S INSURANCE, UM, I GET A BETTER RATE IF I GO SEE MY OWN DOCTOR.
AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO GO SEE THE DOCTOR.
THIS IS, AND THAT'S COVERED WITH NO, NO, OUT OF THE POCKET.
THIS IS REALLY GEARED TO THOSE FOLKS THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE DOCTOR.
THEY CAN DO A BLOOD DRAW, NOT REQUIRED.
IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, THEY CAN DO THAT AND THEY CAN HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION SO THAT THAT CAN JUMPSTART THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE HEALTHIER.
WHAT ARE YOUR HEALTH GOALS? HOW CAN WE HELP YOU WITH THAT? AND IF THERE IS, THEY ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING DOCTOR, THEN THAT CONTINUES, THAT RELATIONSHIP CONTINUES.
RIGHT? WE'RE JUST THERE TO REALLY JUMPSTART THAT THEIR HEALTH GOALS.
BUT IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN, IN ORDER TO GET THAT ZERO DEDUCTIBLE, CORRECT? YES.
THE QUESTION THAT I ALWAYS GET ASKED IS, WHAT IS A CATCH ONE INVESTMENT? ONE HOUR OF TIME OF INVESTMENT UNCOVERS THAT $0 BENEFIT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND AND EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT FROM, IS HAVING A $0 OUT OF POCKET DEDUCTIBLE.
IT'S REALLY IMPACTFUL FOR FOLKS THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR EMPLOYEES A RAISE ESSENTIALLY WITH THIS PLAN.
AND SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS FOR FOLKS TO UTILIZE THE HEALTH PLAN FOR THEM TO BE HEALTHIER.
WE HAVE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH THAT, I HATE TO TO SAY IT, IT'S KIND OF CLICHE.
WE'RE REALLY, OUR GOAL IS TO SAVE LIVES.
AND WE ARE, WE, WE ARE DOING THAT.
WE'RE REALLY MAKING A TREMENDOUS IMPACT IN THE MARKETPLACE.
UH, FOLKS, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE, UH, VERY POSITIVE ABOUT OUR, OUR, UH, HEALTH PLAN.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT IS THEY'RE NOW GOING AND FINDING THE CARE THAT MAYBE THEY'VE PUT OFF SO MANY OF US, AND WE'RE ALL GUILTY OF IT.
IF WE KNOW IT'S GONNA COST US OUT OF POCKET, COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER BILLS TO PAY NOW WITH THIS NETWORK, BROAD NETWORK, NOT JUST IN THIS REGION, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WE, WE HAVE A NATIONAL NETWORK.
FOLKS ARE ABLE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR AND, UM, AND THERE'S NOT A FINANCIAL BURDEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING THE EMPLOYEES, IS THAT INCLUDING THEIR SPOUSE AND THEIR KIDS ALSO? THEY HAVE THE ABSOLUTELY, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GET INSURANCE THROUGH CURATIVE SPOUSES, DEPENDENTS AND SO FORTH.
BUT DO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEW, THE SAME INTERVIEW? ANYONE THE AGE OF 18 AND OVER DEPENDENT OR SPOUSE GOES THROUGH THAT ONE HOUR VISIT AGAIN.
IT CAN BE DONE VIRTUALLY, TYPICALLY ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR LONG.
AND, UH, AND SO YEAH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN ALSO.
AND, AND WHAT WAS THE CONVERSION RATE THAT Y'ALL HAVE? SO, UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 40,000 MEMBERS, UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN AROUND ABOUT 300 GROUPS AND 98% OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT ON HAVE DONE THE BASELINE VISIT.
ABOUT 76% OF THOSE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT VIRTUALLY.
SO WE'VE MADE IT REALLY EASY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BASELINE VISIT.
AND AGAIN, LET ME CLARIFY, IS THAT, UH, DURING MOVING AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, DOING THE INTERVIEWS AND THEN MOVING, REMOVING THE $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE IS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
SO IF, IF ONE PERSON DOES IT, THAT ONE PERSON GETS IT AND EVERYBODY ELSE SITS AT FIVE PER 5,000 DEDUCTIBLE.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION HAS TO GO THROUGH IT, GET THE FUNDING.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE THIS, YOU KNOW, IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, YOU GOTTA QUESTION IT.
AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT YOU'VE GOT A COMPANY THERE THAT, THAT, UH, YOU'VE, YOU'VE OFFERED A PROGRAM TO US THAT SAYS, OKAY, OUR FIRST OFFER IS, IS HERE'S THE PROGRAM THAT'S GOT A $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE ON IT.
BUT IF YOU GO THIS EXTRA STEP, WE'RE GONNA WIPE THAT $5,000 AWAY.
HOW CAN A COMPANY WIPE AWAY $5,000 AND STAY SOLVENT AND STAY SOLVENT WITH 2000, I MEAN 250 EMPLOYEES? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
WE'RE OTHER THAN INSURANCE COMPANIES OR BILLION DOLLAR OF COURSE, INDUSTRIES EVERY YEAR.
AND WE KNOW THAT AND, AND WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT.
WE'RE IN A VERY UNIQUE SPOT THAT CURATIVE, UM, SPENT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF DOING COVID TESTING.
SO THE REASON WE HAVE THAT A MINUS FINANCIAL STABILITY RATING, EXCELLENT RATING IS
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BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY, VERY HEALTHY BALANCE SHEET.WHEN WE FIRST OPENED UP COA WITH TDI, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, OUR CERTIFICATE OF AUTHORIZATION, WE PUT ABOUT $30 MILLION IN ESCROW.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THAT ACCOUNT.
WE WENT TO AM BEST SHOW THEM OUR FINANCIALS.
AT THAT POINT, OUR FOUNDER AND CEO COMMITTED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, UH, UH, FINANCIALS TO THE PLANT, TO THE HEALTH PLAN, CONTINUING TO BE ABLE TO ADD.
SO THE REASON WHY WE KNOW, UM, THE, THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE, OKAY, IS BECAUSE WE DID ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF COVID TESTING.
THAT WAS WHAT CURATIVE DID BEFORE THAT WE ARE NOT A, UM, UH, WE'RE A PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY, BUT WE HAVE ZERO, UH, VENTURE CAPITALIST BACKING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, FINANCIAL OR, UH, INVESTORS IN THE COMPANY.
SO WE REALLY AREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT TURNING A PROFIT YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, WHERE WE WILL SEE THAT, UM, THAT POINT TURNING POINT FOR US IS GONNA BE YEAR THREE AND BEYOND.
OUR MEMBERS ARE GONNA BE SO HAPPY WITH OUR PLAN.
AND YOU'RE IN WHAT YEAR RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW WE'RE TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN.
AND SO, AND YOU'VE GOT 40,000 MEMBERS.
AND YOU OPERATE SOLELY IN TEXAS? WE, UH, STARTED IN, IN TRAVIS COUNTY AND WELLINGTON COUNTY.
WE JUST EXPANDED INTO FLORIDA ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS AGO.
WE ARE NOW OPEN IN BUSINESS IN, UH, GEORGIA.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO QUOTE NINE ONE BUSINESS EFFECTIVE DATE IN GEORGIA.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE A NATIONAL CARRIER, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT YOUR NETWORK IS A NATIONAL NETWORK.
OUR NETWORK IS A NATIONAL NETWORK THROUGH FIRST HEALTH.
WE HAVE OUR OWN NETWORK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WITH ABOUT 15,000 PROVIDERS.
I ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, WHAT WE ALSO INCLUDED IN, IN, IN OUR BID WAS A TWO YEAR GUARANTEE RATE.
SO FOR TWO YEARS, IF THAT'S THE RATE THAT YOU HAD, IF, IF I CAN TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS FOR A QUICK SECOND.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE, THERE WERE DIFFERENT PLANS OFFERED.
CURATIVE ONLY HAS THREE PLANS.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY THE NUMBER ZERO.
UM, AND, AND I WANTED TO GET INTO THE DETAILS 'CAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
SO THERE'S AN EPO PLAN, A PPO PLAN, AND A PPO PLUS PLAN.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EPO PLAN AND A PPO PLAN IS, IS RELATIVELY MINIMAL IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
AN EPO PLAN IS NOT AN HMO, IT IS, IS MOST SIMILAR TO A PPO.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EPO AND A PPO IS A EPO PLAN DOES NOT HAVE OUT OF NETWORK BENEFITS.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR UTILIZATION THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MAYBE 2% OF YOUR CLAIMS GOING OUT OF NETWORK.
IT'S TYPICALLY, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH TRUE ACROSS ALL, ALL PLACES BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU GO OUT OF NETWORK, TYPICALLY YOUR OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUMS, YOUR DEDUCTIBLES DOUBLE.
AND SO MOST PEOPLE ARE ALREADY INCENTIVIZED TO STAY IN NETWORK.
AND HERE THE NETWORK IS IMPORTANT.
HAVING A A STRONG NETWORK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EMPLOYEES WHO MIGHT WANT TO ELECT THE EPO, YOU CAN OFFER BOTH, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD WANNA ELECT THE EPO, THEY CAN GET RATES YOU HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE 2021 ON A TWO YEAR GUARANTEE, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO, THERE'S A 98% CHANCE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE A SINGLE PROVIDER.
UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE,
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING THE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU'RE SHOWING 120 EMPLOYEES PICKED THE EPO AND 80, PICKED THE PPO.
UM, THOSE ARE JUST, UH, I THINK, I THINK CURATIVE PUT THAT UP THERE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, TO ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PLAN.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
SO, SO, SO THAT'S IN, SO LET ME ASK YOU, I WOULD SAY BEST INDICATION, WHY WOULD 120 EMPLOYEES PICK THE EPO WHEN THE CITY PAYS THE COST? THEY WOULDN'T SEE A SAVINGS.
WELL, YOU COULD SEE THE SAVINGS IF Y'ALL DID IMPLEMENT THE EPO INSTEAD OF THE PPO.
AND THOSE, WHAT THOSE SAVINGS LOOK LIKE FOR VERY LITTLE DISRUPTION IS ABOUT $387,000 IN YEAR ONE.
UM, AND THEN OVER 10 YEARS, THOSE SAVINGS WOULD LOOK TO BE ABOUT $7,390,000.
BUT IF WE PICKED, IF YOU JUST APPLY THE INDUSTRY STANDARD 7% FOR US TO SEE THE SAVINGS THOUGH, WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK THE EPO.
YOU WOULD, AND THEN THE EMPLOYEES WOULD, HOW WOULD THEY GET ONTO THE, HOW WOULD THOSE 80 EMPLOYEES GET ONTO THE PPO? THEY WOULD ALL BE ABLE TO GET ON THE EPO IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES DECIDED WE ALL WANT TO GO TO EPO.
MAYBE ONE PERSON WANTS A PPO PLUS.
THOSE RATES WON'T CHANGE THE 6 99, THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT WITHIN THOSE THREE OPTIONS, WE SPREAD THE COST OVERALL TO REALLY DRIVE DOWN THAT EPO PRICE.
THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDE A PPO PLUS.
SO WHAT'S THE PRICE TO THE CITY IF THE EMPLOYEE CAN PICK WHATEVER ONE THEY WANT TO GET ON? IT DEPENDS ON WHICH YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PRIORITIZE ONE PLAN.
SO YOU COULD SAY WE'RE GONNA BASE OUR CITY CONTRIBUTION, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE EMPLOYEE ONLY RIGHT NOW ON THE EPO.
SO EVERYONE, UM, WHO, WHO WOULD ELECT, THEY WOULD GET IT FOR FREE JUST LIKE THEY GET IT NOW, UM, BEING
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ON THE EPO ABOVE AND THEN THEY COULD BUY UP.IT WOULD, THE OTHER WOULD TWO WOULD BE BY US, THEN THAT WOULD BE A COST TO THE EMPLOYEES.
JUST LIKE IF THEY WERE ADDING THEIR KIDS IN THEIR SPOUSES, WHICH WE DON'T, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE NOW.
THIS GIVES THEM THE OPTION TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TRULY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT, HEY, WE'RE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, OF A SMALLER TOWN, UM, BRAZOSPORT MEDICAL CENTER, RIGHT? THERE IS IS THE ONE HOSPITAL IN THE AREA AND THEY'RE IN NETWORK.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT FOR OUT OF NETWORK, IF, IF IT'S A TRUE EMERGENCY, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, WHERE YOU GO, IF IT'S A TRUE EMERGENCY, IT'S TREATED AS AN IN-NETWORK CHARGE.
WHAT CAN I ASK THIS QUESTION OUT OF THE, WHAT IS THE MOST COMPARATIVE, UM, PLAN TO OURS? UM, ON THE CURATIVE QUOTE, I WOULD SAY THAT, THAT THEY'RE ALL PRETTY SIMILAR BECAUSE, AND, AND SOME OF IT HAS TO DETERMINE, I KNOW WE PAY OUT OF NETWORK TO APP PORTION, RIGHT? SO MM-HMM.
I WOULD SAY THAT THERE, THAT IS A CHANGE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THING YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE, THEN YOU'RE LIKELY TO GET THE SAME RESULTS YOU'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN.
AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY PRIORITIZE OR NOT? AND, AND SO I THINK THAT'S A, THE QUE BEFORE I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION.
WELL, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, ARE, ARE WE COMPARATIVE TO THE PPO OR THE PPO PLUS, UH, BETWEEN THE PPOO AND THE PPO PLUS? THE PO, THE PPO O PLUS, NO OFFENSE, FELIPE, IT'S NOT REALLY, THE JUICE ISN'T WORTH THE SQUEEZE.
UM, I DON'T RECOMMEND ANYONE GO ON THE PO PLUS.
IT'S GOT A COUPLE EXTRA BARRELS AND WHISTLES, LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL CHIROPRACTIC COVERAGE, A CLASS PASS SUBSCRIPTION, WHICH IS LIKE A GYM ME.
BUT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN A COUPLE OF THE EXTRA BES BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT FRANKLY, WHEN YOU COMPARE THE RATES AREN'T, AREN'T WORTH IT.
BUT COMPARATIVELY YOU WOULD SAY OUR CURRENT PLAN MATCHES WOULD MATCH THE P MATCHES THE PPO? YES.
YOU ARE RELATIVELY NEW IN THIS INDUSTRY, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUARANTEE US THE RATES ARE GOOD FOR TWO YEARS AND EVERYTHING.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO PARTICIPANTS IF, UH, YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AS YOU EXPAND TO FLORIDA AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU'RE EXPANDING DOESN'T WORK OUT? SO, UH, AND THEN THEY'RE LEFT TO HAVE TO F FOR THEMSELVES AGAIN? WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING.
SO METRICS, THE METRICS THAT WE'VE HIT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE STARTED, UM, HAVE BEEN VERY FAVORABLE ARE, WE JUST CAME INTO A FIRST YEAR RENEWAL WHERE WE SAW AN INCREASE OF ONLY ABOUT THREE POINT A HALF PERCENT.
UM, SECOND QUARTER WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A BUMP, ABOUT 7%, 7.8% OR SO.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE ON.
WE WERE VERY, VERY, UM, WE MADE SURE THAT CURATIVE WASN'T GONNA GO OUT THERE AND BUY THE BUSINESS.
WE'D BE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.
OUR GOAL IS TO BE A NATIONAL CARRIER.
OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE, NOT JUST IN IN TEXAS, BUT BEYOND.
AND SO FAR WE'RE HAVING SOME REALLY GREAT SUCCESS.
WE'RE VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THAT.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING, BY ALL INDICATIONS, LOOKS, UH, TO BE STRONG AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO, TO DO ONE.
AND IF EVERYTHING WERE TO GO DOWN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG FE, BUT IF EVERYTHING WERE TO, TO GO CRAZY SIDEWAYS ON, LIKE, NO ONE, NONE OF US ARE EXPECTING THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE ON DEPOSIT WITH AM BEST AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE GOES TO ENSURING THOSE CLAIMS ARE PAID.
SO HOW MANY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF, UH, CLAIMS THAT WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED ARE APPROVED FOR PAYMENT? A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOES GOOD AND THE PERSON, UH, PUTS IN A CLAIM AND IT GETS BATTED AROUND SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS BEFORE IT GETS PAID.
SO WHAT'S YOUR, UH, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT TERM FOR THAT, BUT TO PAY THE BILL, UH, AND NOT HAVE TO, I NEED THAT.
I WASN'T DOTTED AND T WASN'T CROSSED.
AND SO THAT EMPLOYEES HAS TO DO A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT TAKES THEIR TIME AND EFFORT FOR THEM TO GET THE CLAIM PAID.
SO, WHICH IS PAIN, I, I WANT YOU TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT FIRST OF ALL, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET WHEN THEY'RE AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR BIG PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE SAME PRIOR AUTHORIZATION, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT EVERY CARRIER HAS, RIGHT.
UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
THAT'S, IF IT'S MEDICALLY NECESSARY, IT'S GONNA BE COVERED.
UH, IF SOMEBODY GOES TO THE ER, BUT WHO DETER, AND THAT'S THE THING THAT KILLS ME WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES, IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE PATIENT MAKING THAT DETERMINATION OF WHAT MEDICATION THEY NEED, WHAT'S MEDICALLY, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE PATIENT.
AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE THAT THIRD, THE, THE EP THIS OTHER LEVEL OF CLINICIAN, BUT WE'RE NOT DETERMINING WHAT MEDICINE THEY'RE TAKING.
BUT THEN IS IT GONNA BE PAID FOR AND, AND AUTHORIZED TO BE PAID FOR THROUGH THE INSURANCE COMPANY?
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ABSOLUTELY.BECAUSE YOU CAN GO INTO OUR WEBSITE AND DO A DRUG SEARCH AND SEE WHAT IN OUR FORMULARY THAT CONSISTS OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF, OF MEDICATIONS, RIGHT? TO SEE IF IT'S COVERED UNDER A TIER ONE, WHICH IS $0.
IF IT'S NOT, IT MIGHT BE A TIER TWO $50 COPAY OR A TIER THREE, $250 COPAY.
AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE, UM, GENERIC BRAND NAMES IN THAT FORMULARY.
WE WILL HAVE A COVERED MEDICATION AT $0, BUT, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE CODE SOMETHING WRONG THAN WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR.
AND THEN THEY HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH YOU KICKING IT BACK.
WELL, WE WOULD, WE WOULD REVIEW THOSE CLAIMS, WE WOULD SEE IF YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CODING LOOKS LIKE, BUT COMPARED TO THE DOCTOR'S CODING, THEY THINK THEY CODING IT.
RIGHT? BUT THEN SURE, YOU COULD SAY, THE INSURANCE COMES SAYING, NO, YOU'RE CODING IT WRONG.
IT SHOULD BE THIS, AND THEN IT'S A FIGHT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT THAT PATIENT, THAT NUMBER, THAT EMPLOYEE WILL PAY $0 WHEN THEY GO TO SEE THEIR DOCTOR.
IF THAT MEDICATION IS IN THE FORMULARY UNDER TIER ONE, IT'LL BE $0.
THE STRESS, YOU KNOW, THE STRESS THAT THE MEMBER HAS ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS UTILIZING INSURANCE CURATIVE ELIMINATES THAT.
WE'VE STREAMLINED THE PROCESS.
WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE IN THAT SENSE.
SO MUCH SO THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COME UP SOMETIMES WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW THE CURATIVE NAME.
THE FRONT DESK AT A DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
WE'VE NOW FACILITATED A ZERO CARD, WHICH IS A VISA CARD, BUT THAT MEMBER HAS A PHYSICAL ONE OR A DIGITAL ONE, WHERE IF THAT FRONT DESK PERSON DOESN'T KNOW FIRST HELP, DOESN'T KNOW CURATIVE, DOESN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE IN NETWORK, THAT PROVIDER'S IN NETWORK, THE SIMPLE PHONE CALL WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, UH, PAY FOR THOSE CHARGES.
SO THAT NUMBER, THAT EMPLOYEE, THAT PATIENT CAN LEAVE STRESS FREE.
AND I HAVE TO PULL OUT THEIR POCKETBOOK AND PAY FOR THAT.
BUT THOSE CASES DO COME UP, WE EVALUATE THEM, BUT REST ASSURED, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT PATIENT ISN'T PAYING $0 AT THE END OF THE DAY, GOD FORBID IF SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS, A HEART ATTACK, CANCER IS DISCOVERED AND SO FORTH.
NOW THAT NUMBER DOESN'T HAVE THE STRESS OF HAVING BILLS TO PAY MEDICAL BILLS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO BROKE.
BECAUSE NOW AS LONG AS THEY STAY IN THAT WORK AND THEY DO THAT BASELINE VISIT, THAT CANCER TREATMENT IS PAID, IT'S $0.
SOMEBODY HAS A BABY, IT'S GONNA BE $0.
OUR FOUNDER AND CEO, UM, CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
AND HIS WIFE JUST HAD A BABY THAT, THAT DON'T ALWAYS WORK.
I, I JUST WENT THROUGH C AND I HAD THE CODING PROBLEM WITH ALL THIS DIFFERENT MEDICINE AND DOCTORS AND DIFFERENT STUFF LIKE THAT, AND I STILL HAD TO COME OUTTA THE POCKET AND TRY TO GET REIMBURSED BY.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH CURATIVE BECAUSE, UH, AS LONG AS WE KNOW THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S A, A MEDICALLY NECESSARY PROCEDURE, OR IT'S A MEDICATION THAT'S IN OUR FORMULARY THAT ANYONE CAN LOOK UP ON OUR DIRECTORY AND IT'S $0 TIER ONE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PAY THAT CLIENT.
SO THIS COMPANY WAS FORMED DURING COVID? YES.
WE HAD A SMALL COMPANY LAB OUT OF L OUT OF, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF LOS ANGELES, UH, DOING SEPSIS, UM, TESTING, UH, FAST FORWARD MARCH OF 2020.
LITTLE THING CALLED COVID CAME UP.
DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA LAST LONG, BUT, UH, AT THAT POINT, OUR FOUNDER AND CEO, ALONG WITH SOME, UH, THREE OR FOUR FOUNDERS OF THE COMPANY SAID WE COULD PROBABLY DO TESTING OF THAT FOUR EMPLOYEES IN THE BEGINNING OF 2020.
FAST FORWARD, UH, ABOUT A YEAR LATER, WE HAD 8,000 EMPLOYEES MOBILIZING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY TO DO COVID TESTING, UH, MOBILE, YOU KNOW.
I, I KNEW ABOUT ER BECAUSE I NEEDED TO GET A COVID TEST TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL TO GET THAT NEGATIVE TEST.
WE KNEW THAT THAT BUSINESS WAS GONNA GO AWAY AND, UH, OUR FOUNDER AND CEO DECIDED AT THAT POINT, HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUAS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SAID, THE SYSTEM'S BROKEN.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HELP PEOPLE.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN THE LIVES OF FOLKS.
I'M GONNA START MY OWN HEALTH PLAN.
WE GOT OUR COA WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, IN AUGUST, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 22, AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL EVER SINCE.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S REALLY A REMARKABLE PLAN.
IT'S REALLY CHANGING THE LIVES OF SOME, LET ME ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, EARLIER YOU MADE THE STATEMENT OF THAT COMPARING, UH, THE TE TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON HERE AND IN YOUR PLANS THAT, UH, YOU'RE, IT'S COMPARABLE TO THE PPO OFFER THAT YOU HAVE.
ARE YOU TALKING DOLLARS OR ARE YOU TALKING, UH, DOLLARS AND WHAT'S PROVIDED IN A CERTAIN SENSE? IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE, ACTUALLY MORE COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF DOLLARS, IN TERMS OF IT BEING YOUR, YOUR CURRENT PLANS, PLAN'S, A PPO, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE, THIS OTHER ONE'S, A PPO.
I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE SIMILARITIES END.
UM, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW YOUR CURRENT PLAN IS A $750 DEDUCTIBLE, $5,000 OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUM WITH CURATIVE.
YOU HAVE THE 120 DAY GRACE PERIOD AND, AND, AND THE ONE HOUR CONVERSATION AND YOU'RE AT $0.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE COMPARISONS WOULD
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PROBABLY END IF IT WOULD BE, WELL, THE, THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WHENEVER I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY INSURANCE, AND I HATE LOOKING AT MY INSURANCE EVERY YEAR TO DECIDE WHICH WAY I WANT TO GO, IS I, I HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.AND YES, COST IS A PART OF IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MAY BE GETTING A LOWER COST, BUT I'M NOT GETTING THE THINGS THAT I NEED, ESPECIALLY AS I AGE AND SO FORTH.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I STARTED LOOKING, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
SO, I MEAN, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU SAY THE, THAT, UH, THE TWO PLANS OR EQUIVALENT PPOS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPLES.
SO MAYBE YOU DON'T PAY A DOC, YOU GO INTO DO YOUR VISIT WITH YOUR DOCTOR AND YOU PAY ZERO DEDUCTIBLE, BUT YOUR DOCTOR SAYS YOU NEED X, Y, AND Z, SO YOU GO GET X, Y, AND Z.
DO YOU GUYS, MAYBE THIS COMPANY COVERS 80% AND YOU DO 20%.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, SORRY.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS, WHAT'S YOUR COVERAGE? AND PERCENT, YOU, YOU HAVE NEGOTIATING POWER WITH NUMBERS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST GETTING STARTED.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CHI AND YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS PATIENT'S GONNA HAVE THIS SURGERY, HOW DO YOU NEGOTIATE ON THE SAME LEVEL OF BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY'RE IN NETWORK TO NOT, TO NOT GET THE BILL FOR THE PATIENT IF THEY'RE IN NETWORK MM-HMM.
SO THEY COULD, THERE IS NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SURGERY.
SO LITERALLY THEY COULD, IF THEY PATIENT SAYS, OKAY, I HAD A HEART ATTACK, THEY WOULD PAY NOTHING FOR ANY OF THAT RELATED CARE PERIOD.
IF THEY SPEND A ONE HOUR CONVERSATION.
SO, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY END.
SO THE ONLY MONEY YOU GUYS ARE MAKING IS WHAT THE CITY IS PAYING TO YOU? CORRECT.
WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON THE BACK END.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A EXTRA CONSULTANCY FEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MUST BE BACKING ON PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLETING THE SURVEY PERCENT.
WELL, THEY HAVE THE 98% COMPLETION RATE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY WANT PEOPLE TO, TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY.
AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT FACETS HERE I THINK THAT I CAN SPEAK TO.
UM, NUMBER ONE, PREVENTION AS FAR AS THE OUT THE HEALTH OUTCOMES OF AN INDIVIDUAL AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE OUTCOMES.
UM, PREVENTION IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.
THE COST TO PREVENT A STAGE ONE, STAGE TWO CANCER IS A FRACTION.
I, OBVIOUSLY, I'M SPEAKING IN BROAD GENERAL TERMS, BUT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING IS A 10TH OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO TREAT SOMEONE WHO HAS STAGE THREE, STAGE FOUR.
AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE PREMISE OF, OF, OF OBAMACARE.
WELL, THE, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEY, THEY MADE IT FREE TO GO TO GET YOUR ONE ANNUAL.
IF, IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THAT ANNUAL PHYSICAL AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE ANKLE, YOU TWEAKED AT YOUR INTRAMURAL SOCCER GAME MM-HMM.
AND THEY'RE GONNA, YOU'RE, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE YOUR EMPLOYEE THE $30 COPAY WITH CURATIVE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THAT VISIT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER THE, THE BLOOD, UM, TESTS THAT THEY, THAT THEY ORDER, IT'S $0.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION ABOUT, UH, MAYOR RODOWSKI, I THINK WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP REGARDING HOW DO YOU WIPE AWAY $5,000? RIGHT.
UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE PARETO'S PRINCIPLE IS, IS HEAVILY INTO EFFECT, MAYBE MORE SO IN, IN MEDICAL CLAIMS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.
YOUR TWO TO THREE LARGE CLAIMANTS ARE GONNA DRIVE THE BULK OF YOUR, OF YOUR, UM, COSTS DURING THE YEAR.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY, IF, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE 10 LARGE CLAIMANTS, THAT $50,000 THAT THEY, THAT, THAT THE, THE PLAN THAT CURATIVE MAYBE IS NOW EATING IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE $2.5 MILLION THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING ANNUALLY, UM, ON YOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS PREMIUMS, WHAT'S, UM, WHAT CITIES DO YOU HAVE NOW? WE WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES.
UM, WHAT CITIES THAT CURATIVE, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SEE WHAT, HOW MANY CITIES WE HAVE.
SO YOU'RE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR CURATIVE.
WE, LUKE AND I WORK FOR HI MO.
AND WE WERE BROKEN DOWN COURSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU GO AHEAD.
WELL, I'LL SAY, GOING BACK TO THE HOSPITAL, UH, EXAMPLES.
I WORKED AT HOUSTON METHODIST FOR EIGHT YEARS AND WE FOCUSED A LOT THE DISCHARGE PROCESS, RIGHT? SO PATIENTS COME IN THE ER, WE ASK 'EM RIGHT AWAY, YOU AND INTAKE, WHO'S YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN? WE, THEY'RE GONNA BE FOLLOWING UP WITH IN THE DISCHARGE PROCESS.
SOME SYSTEMS DO IT MORE THAN OTHERS.
WHAT CURATIVE HAS NOTICED NATIONALLY, THEY, WHICH THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING.
BUT HERE IN TEXAS, A NUMBER OF THE P THE PATIENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE A DISCHARGING, UH, PHYSICIAN.
OR IF THEY DO, THEY PROBABLY, THEY MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THEM IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.
THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN
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REGULAR.SO THEREFORE, WHAT IS THEIR ADHERENCE TO ACTUALLY DOING WHAT THAT DISCHARGING PHYSICIAN HAS IT DISCHARGING.
IF I LIVED IN LAKE JACKSON, I PERSONALLY, I USED TO VISIT DR. THOMAS, HE WOULD BE MY PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN.
I WOULD THEN DO THE, THE VISIT WITH CURATIVE.
THEY WOULD SAY, HEY, IS DR. THOMAS ADDRESSING X, Y, Z? YES, HE IS.
WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU SAW HIM SIX MONTHS AGO, WHEN WAS YOUR NEXT PHYSICAL? SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RIGHT THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO ENSURE THAT, HEY, THE BUMPERS, IF WE LOOK AT BOWLING ARE SET UP.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REPLACING A POSITION.
NOW, WHEN WE GO TO CONTRACTS, WHEN WE LOOK AT BUCO, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LAST TIME FIRST HEALTH WAS OUT OF NETWORK WITH ANY OF THE MAJOR HOSPITALS, I DON'T RECALL.
I USED TO WEAR AT HOUSTON METHOD, AS I MENTIONED, UNITED FIGHTING IN AETNA, FIGHTING WITH, UM, UTMB, BLUE CROSS UP IN DALLAS.
RIGHT? AND SO IT ALSO, MEMORIAL HERMAN A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AT THE END OF THE DAY CONTRACTS, THEY'VE GOTTEN RID OF THAT ISSUE BECAUSE OF WHO THEY'RE IN NETWORK WITH WITH FIRST HEALTH.
SO NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO FOCUS ON DENIALS THAT THE DENIAL RATE THAT THOSE OTHER CARRIERS ARE SO SUCCESSFULLY ACTUALLY LEVERAGING.
AND WHY ARE THEY DOING THAT? SHAREHOLDERS, ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVE TO TURN THE PROFIT.
WE KNOW THAT THOSE PLANE DESIGNS INCREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE COPAYS GRADUALLY INCREASE DEDUCTIBLES, GRADUALLY INCREASE OUT OF POCKETS, GRADUALLY INCREASE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE PROFITABLE.
'CAUSE WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH TREND.
AND SO ULTIMATELY THEY'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE THAT.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS FROM AN ACTUAL STANDPOINT, IF WE CAN GET THE 98% TO ADHERE TO IT, WHICH AT 40,000 WE HAVE DONE THUS FAR, WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION FOR YOU.
ULTIMATELY, WE REPRESENT CURATIVE.
WE DON'T ALWAYS REPRESENT CURATIVE.
WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRE MARKETPLACE.
BUT ULTIMATELY, BASED ON THE RESPONSES AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE RESPONSES, SHIP IS THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY.
AND THEY AREN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A ONE TIME THING DOWN HERE IN ZU COUNTY.
AND IT'LL ALSO BE, UM, I CAN'T SHARE THE NAMES OF THE OTHER COMPANIES, BUT THERE'S ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS.
IS THIS AN ANNUAL DEALER? YOU SIGN UP FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IT'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT FOR YOU GUYS.
THINK ABOUT, LET'S, LET'S JUST FOCUS ON RIGHT, COMPOUNDING.
HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU GONNA BE SAVING IF YOU CAN LOCK IN YOUR RATES FOR TWO YEARS? AND WE HAVE A 98 CONVERSION RATE, 98% CONVERSION RATE ON THE EPO PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN NUMBERS LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF SAVINGS IN YEARS.
BUT THEN ARE WE, WE'RE STAYING AT 2021 AND 2025.
AND SO ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU HIRE CONSULTANTS, WE AREN'T JUST HERE TO COME AND SAY, HEY, WE QUOTED THIS COMPANY AND WE WEREN'T GONNA SAY, HEY, YOU THEN GO WITH THIS COMPANY AND IT'S, WE'LL TALK TO YOU A YEAR FROM NOW.
THE, THE POWER OF A CONSULTANT IS ACTUALLY BEING THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, DAY BY DAY, WEEK BY WEEK.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY ENSURING THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED.
THE FACT THAT I HAVE THE HEALTHCARE EXPERIENCE IS WHY I DO THIS JOB.
NOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT TO SEE LIVES IMPROVE FROM THE OVERALL CARE STANDPOINT.
I GOT SO TIRED OF SEEING PATIENTS COMING IN FROM A, FROM A READMISSION STANDPOINT, UNDER THE SAME CODE, KNOWING THAT THE HOSPITAL WAS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY X AMOUNT AND THE PATIENT ULTIMATELY DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT SYSTEM AROUND THEM.
CURATIVE DOES THAT SUPPORT SYSTEM.
THOMAS'S OF THE WORLD ALREADY TAKING CARE OF THEM.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER, UH, CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR THEM TO HELP THE SYSTEM.
THE UM, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BIGGEST SAVINGS COME WITH, WITH PRIORITIZING THE EPO PLAN AS THE PLAN THAT YOU OFFER YOUR EMPLOYEES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CURATIVE HAS DONE FOR A LOT OF MY OTHER CLIENTS, UM, IS THAT IF THERE'S A PROVIDER HERE IN TOWN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING AND, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT PROVIDER IN NETWORK, CURATIVE HAS A TEAM THAT WILL REACH OUT TO THAT PROVIDER AND, AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND BRING THEM IN NETWORK THROUGH A DIRECT CONTRACT ALSO.
WAIT, CAN I PLEASE FINISH, SORRY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE TREND INFLATION, 7% INFLATION ANNUALLY.
UM, I JUST, THE, THE IMPACT OF THE NUMBERS, I JUST DID THE, THE CALCULATION REAL QUICK WHILE WE STAND STOOD HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PRIORITIZE THE CURATIVE EPO PLAN VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE 3% DECREASE THAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW FROM TML HEALTH, UM, OVER 10 YEARS.
SO IF WE, IF WE LOCK IN CURATIVE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN WE, WE PUT THEM BACK ON THAT ANNUAL 7% TREND OVER 10 YEARS, THE CITY WILL SAVE $6.4 MILLION APPLYING THE SAME 7% TO, TO BOTH ENTITIES.
UM, SO, SO THAT'S THE POWER OF THE, THE COMPOUND INTEREST THAT UP.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, BRING UP, IT WAS AN INTERESTING TABLE.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT US FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT FIVE POINT, A LITTLE UNDER 5.5.
SO I NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INDUSTRY TREND WAS THE PAST 10 YEARS INSTEAD.
BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE, MAYBE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUCKING A TREND.
LAST YEAR THE INCREASE WAS 10.
THIS YEAR IT'S THREE OR MINUS THREE, SORRY.
UM, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT SEVEN AT THE END OF THE DAY.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO GET OTHER CITIES? THE CITY MANAGER WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT, FORGIVE ME.
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HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO GET THE OTHER CITIES, THE MAYOR, UH, CITY, GET THE INFORMATION ON WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE IN THE PROGRAM? I COULD GET IT TO YOU.YOU, YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION TOMORROW MORNING.
ALRIGHT, SO CAN I BACK UP AND LET'S ADDRESS ONE MORE ISSUE.
KIND OF OFF THE SPECIFIC IN INSURANCE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED AT WITH THIS PRESENTATION WAS COMPETITION ALWAYS IS GONNA DRIVE PRICE DOWN.
SO I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE CURIOUS NOW ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE USE AS A CITY TO ENCOURAGE THAT COMPETITION VERSUS THIS IS WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
SO WE CAN ASK JOSE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
SO I SAY WE'RE STARTING A TWO YEAR CONTRACT.
SO WHAT IF, UH, IT DOESN'T TURN OUT TO BE WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TONIGHT.
UH, WHAT'S OUR WAY OUT? WE ARE STUCK FOR TWO YEARS NO MATTER WHAT.
SO WORK FOR LOCKED IN FOR TWO YEARS, BUT YOU'RE, THOSE RATES ARE LOCKED IN AND SOLID FOR TWO YEARS.
BUT IS THE STEADY COMMITMENT FOR YOU LOCKED IN FOR TWO YEARS? YOU, YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET OUTTA CONTRACT AT ANY POINT.
UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.
IF SIX MONTHS DOWN THE LINE YOU SAID, FORGET IT, I DON'T WANT THIS.
YOU CAN ALWAYS SWITCH, GO BACK TO THE MARKET AND THEN NO, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG PAYMENT PAYOUT SOON.
IF, IF WE DO THAT YEARS, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT YOU, YOU DON'T GET OUT CONTRACTS FOR FREE.
MAY I REITERATE, REITERATE TWO THINGS THAT WERE BACK, BACK AT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN BACK WHEN, AS WE KIND OF SEGUE BACK INTO THE, THE PROCESS.
WHAT CARRIES WOULD CONSIDER A FULL SUBMISSION IS LARGE CLAIMS DATA, WHICH IS, IS THE, THE LARGE CLAIMS OVER DIFFERENT CARRIERS HAVE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS.
BUT, BUT HB 2015 IS, IS 15,000.
ANY, ANY LARGE CLAIMANT WHO HAS OVER $15,000 IN CLAIMS IN THE PROCEEDING 12 MONTHS.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY LARGE CLAIMS DATA.
IT, IT TYPICALLY COVERS, UH, THE, THE PRIMARY DIAGNOSIS CODE.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, ALL THE MEMBER INFORMATION IS COMPLETELY ANONYMIZED.
YOU DON'T, WE DON'T EVER KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS.
THE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION IS A COMPLETE CENSUS THAT INCLUDES NAMES, DATES OF BIRTH, GENDER, ZIP CODE.
SEE? AND, AND THE EMPLOYEE'S DIRECTIONS WE'RE LEGALLY PROHIBITED FROM GIVING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT ON EMPLOYEES.
AND I MEAN CERTAINLY IF YOU NEED, YOU DON'T NEED ALL OF THAT.
YOU COULD HAVE, UM, JUST APPROXIMATE AGES OF ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES.
HOW MANY ARE 50? HOW MANY ARE 60? THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
BUT, BUT YOU DON'T NEED MY NAME, MY ADDRESS, MY PHONE NUMBER, MY DATE OF BIRTH WHEN WE HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR YOUR PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE NORMAL STANDARD? LIKE IF YOU HAD 10 DIFFERENT PEOPLE VYING FOR ONE CITY CONTRACT, WHAT GENERAL INFORMATION DO THEY TYPICALLY ASK FOR? THEY ASKED FOR THE LOOK BACK, YOU KNOW, AS A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF THE CLAIMS AND THE CENSUS WITH THE AGE, THE GENDER, AND THE ZIP CODE.
SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR NAMES, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR SPECIFIC NAMES AND ADDRESS PATIENT INFORMATION.
WHENEVER THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT THE LARGE CLAIMS. HOLD ON.
I TOLD CAN WE HAVE JOSE COME TO, TO THE MIC GUYS, YOU CAN USE MY DOWN FOR A SECOND.
BUT IF EVERYBODY HEARD ME, IT WAS THE LOOK BACK PERIOD OF TWO YEARS FOR CLAIMS WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE WAS, CLAIMS VERSUS PREMIUMS. AND THE CENSUS THAT WE PROVIDED THAT I VERIFIED WITH SEVERAL BROKERS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST THAT I DON'T USE HERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IS JUST THE AGE, THE ZIP CODE AND THE GENDER.
NOW, LARGE CLAIMS, I DID TELL THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM HINGING ABOUT THEY WILL NOT RELEASE THAT TO ME.
THEY HAVE TO RELEASE THAT TO, DIRECTLY TO THEM FROM TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS.
'CAUSE THEY WILL NOT SEND THAT TO ME DIRECTLY.
WE, WE ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.
UM, WE, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE ARE NOT THE, THE BROKER OF RECORD.
SO IF WE REQUEST YOU REQUESTED THAT INFORMATION FROM TML, THEY WOULD SUMMARILY DISMISS US.
DID DID YOU TRY? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.
IT'S, IT'S EVERY, EVERY CARRIER'S POLICY THEY WILL ONLY TALK TO.
SO Y'ALL, Y'ALL DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY FOR NAMES AND AGENTS? WE, WE ASKED THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY OF JACKSON CITY, THE CITY.
I HAVE HER EMAILS HERE IN MY BINDER.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERWRITING PROCESS HAS COME A LONG WAY.
JUST OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE ALL HEARD THE PHRASE AI.
UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, OF TOOLS OUT THERE THAT UNDERWRITERS ARE NOW USING, UM, ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY.
GRX IS ANOTHER WHERE IT USES, IT TAKES THAT INFORMATION FROM A FULL CENSUS NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, GENDER, ZIP CODE INFORMATION WE PROVIDE FOR OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE WORK WITH.
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TO PULL INFORMATION, PREDICTIVE ANALYTICS BASED ON THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THE GROUP.THEY DON'T REPORT ANY OF THAT TO THE BROKERS, BUT THEY USE IT ACROSS ALL GROUPS NOW.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY AT ONE POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ALLOWED, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET BY WITHOUT A FULL CENSUS, BUT NOW THEY'VE GOTTEN A LOT MORE STRICT, WHICH IS WHY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS RELEASED, THERE WERE NO OF THE, OF THE LEGACY CARRIERS, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT SUBMITTED ANY RESPONSES BECAUSE THEY, THEY PHYSICALLY OR, OR THEIR, THEIR UNDERWRITING GUIDELINES WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO SO.
THEIR CLIENTS WHO NEEDS TO BE WITH TML, SORRY, ARE ARE THEIR CLIENTS WHO USED TO BE WITH TML? YEAH, WE, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE CLIENTS WHO, WHO USED TO BE TML, WE HELPED THEM GET A TML.
WE HAVE CLIENTS WHO ARE STILL WITH TML, UM, AND WE STILL REPRESENT THEM, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE GETTING A FAIR SHAKE IN THE MARKET.
AND THOSE MUNICIPALITIES, WE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE OUTLINED TODAY FROM TML.
WE WOULD NOT BE THE BROKER OF RECORD FOR THE CITY OF FRIENDSWOOD, THE CITY OF BEL AIR AND THE CITY OF STAFFORD.
IF WE DID NOT HAVE A DATE OF BIRTH, A ZIP CODE, AND A NAME FOR THAT EMPLOYEE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH BUCA IF WE DID NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THIS ISN'T JUST A HIGGINBOTHAM THING.
YOU COULD HAVE ALL THE AGENCIES LINED UP IN HERE.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE HAVE NOT BEEN OTHER SUBMISSIONS.
THE THIRD AGENCY THAT WAS LISTED THERE, WE KNOW WHICH CARRIER THEY WENT TO, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
IT'S OUR JOB TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CARRIER PARTNERS.
IT'S ALSO OUR JOB TO KIND OF STAND IN THE FOOT LENGTH SO WE CAN APPROPRIATELY NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
SO WE'RE NOT BUDDY BUDDY, BUT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND, UH, WITH WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING.
WE JUST WANT TO SEE YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO IT GOES BACK TO THE OVERALL HEALTH WELLBEING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'VE GONE OUT FOR RFP ON BEHALF OF FRIENDSWOOD? MM-HMM.
OUR COLLEAGUE SHANA MILLER IS THE AGENT THAT REPRESENTS CITY OF FRIENDSWOOD.
HARRY CHAPMAN IS A BROKER WHO REPRESENTS CITY OF STAFFORD AND HARRIS REEB REPRESENTS CITY OF BEL AIR, WHO WELCOME TO CALL THE CITY MANAGERS.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK THEM WHAT THAT RFP PROCESS HAS LOOKED LIKE.
THEY'LL DISCLOSE EVERYTHING TO YOU.
IN FACT, WE DISCLOSE EVERYTHING TO CITY OF LAKE JACKSON AND WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING RELEASING NAMES OF EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DATES OF BIRTH AND THEIR GENDER WILLY-NILLY.
WE ARE BOUND BY HIPAA THE SAME WAY.
SO THAT INFORMATION DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PROTECTED ON, ON SECURE SERVERS.
WE HAVE A FULL, YOU KNOW, IT TEAM WHO, WHO LOCKS EVERYTHING DOWN AND MAKES IT SUPER HARD FOR US TO GET INTO OUR OWN COMPUTERS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT.
SO IN THOSE INSTANCES, YOU SAID FRIENDSWOOD IS RELEASING THAT INFORMATION DURING THE RFP PROCESS.
I, I SUGGEST YOU GIVE HIM A CALL TO CONFIRM, BUT YES.
I NEED TO ALLOW, UH, CHECK CELL 1, 1, 1 QUESTION FOR Y'ALL.
UH, MAYBE I MISSED IT EARLIER.
SO WHAT IF THE CITY GOES ALONG LIKE JACKSON, LIKE JACKSON, GOD FORGIVES THAT THEY, UH, BEEN DOING GOOD FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN THEY HAVE A BAD YEAR.
DOES THAT REFLECT AGAINST THEM OR DOES THAT GO AGAINST THEM FOR HAVING, IT WOULD REFLECT IN THE CLAIMS, JUST LIKE IT WOULD REFLECT IN YOUR CLAIMS AS THINGS, REGARDLESS OF WHO, REGARDLESS AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD GO OUT TO THE MARKET ON YOUR BEHALF, SHOP EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING TML.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO, TO SHOP THERE TOO.
UM, AND, AND SHOW YOU WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
UM, USE OUR, OUR SIZE AND LEVER OUR SIZE AND NEGOTIATING POWER TO LEVERAGE THE BEST RATES AND BEST PLANS WE CAN.
WE, WE WANNA PARTNER WITH THE CD OF LAKE JACKSON.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVESTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY.
AND, AND YOU'RE DEFINITELY RIGHT.
IT'S A VERY BROKEN SYSTEM AND WE DO HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT AVENUE.
UM, I FEEL LIKE MOST OF US ARE, IT'S A MONOPOLY WITH A LOT OF THESE LARGER CARRIERS FOR SURE.
SO KUDOS ON TRYING TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY.
I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND LET THE OTHER INSURANCE COMPANY TALK FIRST BEFORE YOU STEPPED UP, SIR.
I, THIS IS DONALD CORONADO AND DEREK BA WITH THE TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS.
I'M THE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCIL, UH, DONALD CORONADO WITH TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHERE DO I START? FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 45 YEARS OF BUSINESS.
UM, AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, THAT TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS WAS ESTABLISHED 45 YEARS AGO WITH CITIES JUST LIKE YOURSELVES.
ACTUALLY, YOU WERE PART OF THE FOUNDING, ONE OF THE FOUNDING CITIES ALONG WITH OTHERS, I THINK WE WERE 18, THAT PUT TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS TOGETHER.
THERE WAS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SET UP BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT ALLOWED THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
SO, A COUPLE THINGS THE GENTLEMEN ARE REFERRING TO, DON'T APPLY.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID EVERY YEAR.
THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SUPERSEDES THAT.
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THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, NOT THE AUTHORITY, BUT THAT DUTY'S GIVEN TO TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS ON, ON OUR, ON YOUR BEHALF.SO WE GO OUT AND SHOP FOR YOU WHEN THINGS ARE NEEDED.
SO WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO BE WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE, WE MOVED OVER TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, THEY HAD THE BETTER MOUSETRAP, UH, PHARMACY, BENEFIT MANAGERS, VISION PLAN, DENTAL, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE UNDER THIS, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REFERENCED WAS THE HOUSE BILL 2015 SOUNDED LIKE WE WERE DOING SOME ILLEGAL STUFF.
HOUSE BILL 2015 DOESN'T APPLY TO US.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, PROVIDE LARGE CLAIMANTS.
HOWEVER, WE DO IN CERTAIN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
WHEN A BROKER COMES TO US, THERE'S CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT THEY FILL OUT, SUBMIT THE REQUEST, THE CITY SIGNS OFF OF IT.
WE DO RELEASE LARGE CLAIMANTS UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE DO NOT RELEASE 'EM BACK TO YOU GUYS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF HOLDING THAT INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT EACH EMPLOYEE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE DO DO THAT ON A REGULAR, UH, WHEN THE THINGS ARE, UH, THEY'RE FOLLOWED.
UM, ONE OF YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS WAS HOW MANY CITIES, TEXAS HOME BENEFITS HAS 650 CITIES THAT WE CURRENTLY COVER.
CITY OF SWEENEY, SURFSIDE BEACH, UH, ZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, MADISONVILLE, CITY OF WALLER, CITY OF WILLIS.
I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
WE DO CITIES, OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND DECISION MAKERS, OR PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOURSELVES, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, CITY MANAGERS, MAYORS, UM, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
MIKE STILL'S, THE POLICE CHIEF UP AT WEST ORANGE.
UH, FABRICE CABO IS THE CITY MANAGER DOWN IN MADISONVILLE.
JAY STOKES A CITY MANAGER UP IN DEER PARK.
SO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH YOUR BENEFITS.
IT'S NOT JUST SOMEBODY UP IN AUSTIN OR DALLAS OR NEW YORK UP IN THE IVORY TOWER DECIDING WHAT HAPPENS.
IT'S FOLKS JUST LIKE YOURSELVES THAT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO AT ANY POINT IN TIME AND DISCUSS YOUR CONCERNS, WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND SO ON.
SO, UM, THAT'S HOW THAT IS HANDLED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REFERENCED WAS THE SAVINGS.
I THINK IT WAS $50,000 IS THROWN OUT THERE JUST WITH OUR BID, WITH OUR BID FOR THIS YEAR WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING.
SO WE TURNED THE TIME BACK A LITTLE BIT.
$60,000 WITHOUT DOING NOTHING.
UM, OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM PUTS OUT EVERY YEAR AT LEAST $40,000 ON THE TABLE.
THE WELLNESS PROGRAM WHERE YOU DO YOUR SCREENINGS, UH, YOUR EMPLOYEES COMPLETE THE SURVEY, SUBMIT THAT, AND WE SEND YOU $150 CHECK THAT'S ON, ON OUR DIME, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.
WE COVER THAT COST, THEN IT'S NOT BILLED BACK TO YOU.
I DON'T WORK FOR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF TEXAS, BUT THEY ARE THE BIGGEST NETWORK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UH, ALL 254 COUNTIES HAVE PROVIDERS.
IF YOU'RE IN SWEENEY, TEXAS, UH, JIMMA HOG COUNTY, TEXAS, THERE'S PROVIDERS THAT ARE CONTRACTED IN BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
UH, YOU GUYS ARE SORT OF LIKE, YOU'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM HOUSTON, THE BIG MECCA OF HEALTHCARE.
BUT THE FOLKS OUT IN SWEENEY OR JIM HOG COUNTY OR SABATA, TEXAS, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS? THAT'S PRETTY FAR OUT THERE.
THEY'RE ALL COVERED BY TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS UNDER THAT PPO PLAN.
SO TML HAS GOT SOME SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP OR SPECIAL, WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE VILLAGE CLERK.
CAN I FINISH WHAT I WAS SAYING? SO YOU'RE PROTECTED BY, OR THIS WAS SET INTO PLACE BY THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE? YES, MA'AM.
SO LAWS, MUNICIPALITIES HAS COME TOGETHER TO PULL RESOURCES TO GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS AND INSURANCE, BUT OKAY, GO AHEAD.
WELL, A A LOT OF CITIES ARE SELF-INSURED.
BUT A LOT OF, MOST OF THE BIG CITIES.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS TML HAS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES OR SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAYBE OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES YEAH.
THEY ALLOW 'CAUSE THEY'RE PROTECTED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
AND THEY ALLOWED ALL THE CITIES TO JOIN ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES TO JOIN.
OR I GUESS ANY CITY COULD JOIN DML.
IT'S JUST AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO RELEASE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT ANOTHER COMPANY WOULD HAVE TO IS THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT YEAH.
WHENEVER THEY GO OUT SHOPPING, THEY DON'T TO RELEASE.
YOU'RE NOT HELD BY THE SAME STANDARDS AS OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES.
ESSENTIALLY, ONCE THEY STATED, WE DON'T FOLLOW THE SAME GUIDELINES, SO WE'RE, WE WILL RELEASE THE LARGE CLAIMANT THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.
BUT IF YOU'RE FORCED TO NOT, IF WE'RE FORCED YOU, IF WE'RE ASKED TO CORRECTLY UNDER THE DOCUMENTATION WITH THE DOCUMENTATION, WE'LL DO THAT.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.
YOUR TEAM ASKED ME, HEY, CAN WE GET LARGE CLAIMANT CLAIMANTS? I SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THOSE AREN'T ALLOWED TO GIVE YOU THOSE P AS PREMIUMS, WHICH IS USED ROUTINELY.
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ARE WITH TML AS ACTING AS BASICALLY A BROKER, YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU GO BROKER, WELL, YOU GO OUT THERE INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND PROVIDE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO, TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH A, THE BEST PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN TO SIT FOR THE CITIES IN GENERAL.I DON'T WANNA TO SAY WE'RE A BROKER BECAUSE I WANT SOME YOU THINK WE WELL, I YOU'RE DOING THE SAME.
THEY'RE ALSO SERVE AS THE CLAIM ADJUSTER.
I GUESS TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DEREK BEN AND I'M ALSO WITH, WITH TEXAS HEALTH.
I THINK, UM, EVERYBODY'S UMBRELLA IS BETTER UNTIL IT RAINS.
UM, BUT AS WE, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, UM, WITH, WITH CURATIVE AND HIGGINBOTHAM AND THE, WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE, I THINK IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, BUT GROUPS THAT USUALLY BRING ON BROKERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN HOUSE OR SOMETHING TO DO THAT, THERE'S ALSO A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE A NONPROFIT EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THE THOUGHT SAVING WAS WE'RE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A PROFIT THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'VE BEEN A NONPROFIT FOR 40 YEAR, 45 YEARS.
THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE WITH THIS ONE.
UM, AND USUALLY WHEN YOU BRING A BROKER IN, THERE'S EITHER A, A DIRECT CONTRACT WITH THE BROKER OR WHAT THEY CALL A PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH FEE.
UM, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30,080 4,000 IS WHAT THAT'S ESTIMATED TO BE.
AND SO THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT TOO.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF IT, IT'S NOT JUST THE COST OF THE PRODUCT.
IF INSURANCE IS EXPENSIVE, NOW AT A BROKER ON TOP OF THAT AND THOSE, THOSE, THOSE AMOUNTS GO UP.
UM, WHAT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT WITH DETECTIVE HEALTH BENEFIT IS THAT THE POOL, EVERY, EVERY MEMBER, EVERY SPOUSE AND EVERY EMPLOYEE AND SPOUSE IS ELIGIBLE FOR $150.
UM, SO IF YOU GO, YOU GO DO THE SAME TEST THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, GENTLEMEN, SAME TEST.
THERE'S ALSO AN INCENTIVE TO DO THAT WITH $150.
UH, WE WELCOME THE, THE COMPETITION.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION.
BUT DO YOU WELCOME THE COMPETITION? ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS, SO THEY HAVE ALL OF OUR INFORMATION, LARGE CLAIMS, BLAH, BLAH BLAH, ALL THIS SORT OF STUFF.
AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO NECESSARILY RELEASE THAT INFORM, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY? YES.
WITH TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON.
BUT HIGGINBOTHAM DID NOT CONTACT THEM.
THEY KEPT ON ASKING ME, I WAS LIKE, I CANNOT RELEASE THAT.
YOU HAVE TO GO WITH TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GET SOME FORMS AND THEN I WOULD SIGN OFF SO THEY CAN RELEASE THE FORMS TO THE INFORMATION.
LET'S, LET ME DO SOMETHING HERE REAL QUICK, IS WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO, WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST TO COUNCIL IS, IS THAT WE TAKE THIS BACK TO A, A ANOTHER, TO A SUBCOMMITTEE, INCLUDE A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, HOPEFULLY COUNCILWOMAN SETH WILL AGREE TO SIT IN LAND, UH, AND, UH, HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT GETS BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE FIRST, UH, DISCUSSION WAS, IS WHY DID WE NOT GET MORE RESPONSES AND HOW WE FIX THAT.
AND LET'S, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WANNA COME OUTTA THIS, BUT THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT OF THIS IS THAT WHENEVER WE COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN APPLES AN APPLES COMPARISON OF A FAMILY OF FIVE.
WHAT DO THEY GET WITH EACH PLAN AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST THEM? THAT'S HOW I WOULD LOOK AT IT IF IT WAS ME.
AND SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS, IS THAT WE COME BACK AND 'CAUSE YOU GUYS CAN SPEND IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST OUR EMPLOYEES, AN EMPLOYEE TAXPAYER HAS A FAMILY OF FIVE, WHAT IT'S GONNA COST THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA MAKE MY DECISION OFF OF.
WHAT DO THEY GET OUT OF IT AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST THEM AND WHAT DOES IT COST THE CITY? YEAH.
NO, THAT, THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT THOUGH WITH THE, THE COMPETITION PART.
UM, IF, IF IT'S A BETTER MOUSE TRAPP, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, WE JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY, AN EPO FOR YOU GUYS IS BETTER THAN A PPO ANY DAY.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT
OH, YOU HAVE, ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
AND, AND SO IN TERMS OF, OF GOING BACK, WE CAN GO BACK AND GET YOU, UH, WE, WE CAN DO WHAT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO YEAH.
I THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO HAVE THE, HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, HAVE THE REBUTTALS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IN A SMALLER GROUP.
AND THEN AGAIN, BRING US BACK A RECOMMENDATION.
AND I THINK COUNCIL WOULD BE OKAY WITH COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES COST AND SO FORTH.
AND IF THEY WANT TO, IF WE WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS THEN, THEN.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE MOST OF US ARE GONNA MAKE OUR DECISION OFF AT THE END OF THE DAY.
BUT I THINK AFTER 40 MINUTES, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT.
BUT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE FREE TO, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, BUT I MEAN, UM, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY, I THINK WE DISCUSSED WITH THING, AGAIN, NAUSEA.
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PPO PLANS, DEDUCTIBLES, COPING AND SO ON.AND DEREK AND I HAVE THIS CONVERSATION A LOT.
UM, THE COMPETITION IS REALLY TOUGH.
I MEAN, TO GET YOUR BUSINESS, TO KEEP YOUR BUSINESS AND GOING AND SOME OF THE STUFF PEOPLE WON'T FOCUS ON IS THE VALUE ADD ONE.
THE THING IS RELATIONSHIP AGAIN, THE 45 YEAR RELATIONSHIP, US WORKING DIRECTLY WITH YOUR HR TEAM IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE OTHER VALUE ADD STUFF I TALK ABOUT, YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THE PACKET.
I'M DRAG YOU THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT.
AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT TEXAS HEALTH BENEFITS DOES IS WHEN WE GO OUT TO SHOP THE MARKET, WE'RE GOING OUT FOR 40,000 PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT, YOU GET BETTER PRICING, DIFFERENT PRICING.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THE FIRST THING TALKS ABOUT YOUR AVERAGE INCREASE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS 4%.
UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD RIGHT NOW, AVERAGE IS ABOUT 7.1.
I GUESS I, I HAD ASKED LISA TO SHOW ME WHAT WE HAD OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND IT AVERAGED TO 5.5, 5.44%.
SO THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT WE ADD TO THE PRO TO HELP YOUR EMPLOYEES MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, GET MONEY BACK IN THE POCKET, REMEMBER WE'RE THE PROGRAM AND IT TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I WON'T DRAG YOU THROUGH IT.
THE BIG WINNER OF LAST YEAR WAS THE SURGERY PLUS BENEFIT.
UM, STATE OF TEXAS, CITY OF HOUSTON, CITY OF DALLAS, THEY HAVE GREAT BENEFITS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.
THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT, HAVE ALL THEM IN THE WORLD.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE SURGERY PLUS
NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HOW SURGERY PLUS WORKS.
UH, YOU'RE IN A SITUATION, LET'S SAY YOU NEED A KNEE SURGERY OR HEART SURGERY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL SURGERY.
WE SEND YOU TO A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE CENTERS OF EXCELLENCE TO YOU ARE.
UH, WE SEND YOU TO THE BEST OF THE BEST.
YOUR DEDUCTIBLE, WHETHER IT'S SEVEN 50 OR $5,000, IT'S ALL WEIGHT.
YOU HAVE NO DEDUCTIBLE, NO OUT OF POCKET.
AND YOU HAVE COMPLETE SURGERY IF YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL TO COVER THE TRAVEL EXPENSES, TO COVER YOUR MEALS, TO COVER YOUR LAUNDRY.
SO THAT WAS THE OTHER VALUE ADDED THAT WE PUT ON.
AGAIN, AT NO COST TO YOU GUYS OR THE EMPLOYEES, IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED.
AND THEN I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT, I'LL LET YOU GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE STEPS.
THEN JUST THE, THE POINT ABOUT THINGS BEING FREE AND NO DEDUCTIBLE AND HOW THAT MOVES AROUND.
SIMPLY SAY IT THIS WAY WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT LAKE JACKSON HAS, LAKE JACKSON HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A MODEL FOR, FOR US TO, TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
YOU HAVE THE NEXT LEVEL AS YOUR INTRODUCTORY PIECE.
OUT-OF-POCKET PAYMENT FOR, FOR THOSE SERVICES.
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR MEDICAL PLAN AND ON TOP OF THAT YOU HAVE YOUR SURGERY PLUS.
SO IN THEORY, UM, EVERYTHING FROM PREVENTATIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO SURGERY, UH, IF YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS, CAN COME TO YOU.
AND WE CONTINUE EVERY YEAR TO COME BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE JOSE IS A, IS A TOUGH ONE TO DEAL WITH WHEN IT COMES TO, TO, TO, TO, TO RENEWALS.
UM, I NEED IT FLAT, I NEED IT.
I NEED IT KIND OF SAYS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
AND WE KIND OF HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT WE'VE TAKEN THAT PLAN AND TRIED TO USE IT IN OTHER PLACES.
THE THE NEXT LEVEL AS THE ENTRY, THE, THE, THE MEDICAL PLAN AND THE SURGERY PLUS ON TOP OF IT, IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT'S UNIQUE HERE, HERE.
AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT.
TML UM, OF THE HIGGIN BOTTOM GROUP.
WHEN DOES THE CITY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LAST HOUR THAT A CITY CAN MAKE A DECISION TO SWITCH OVER TO A NEW PLAN? I MEAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY FAR, UH, AHEAD OF SCHEDULE HERE, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
MOST GROUPS YOUR SIZE START THAT PROCESS ABOUT 120 DAYS OUT.
I THINK WE'RE CLOSER TO 150 DAYS RIGHT NOW.
THEY DON'T START THE PROCESS UNTIL 120 DAYS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY, DEPENDING ON IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT.
'CAUSE THERE ARE IMPLEMENTATION PIECES, PAPERWORK NEEDS TO BE SIGNED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AN IMPLEMENTATION AND UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS LITTLE AS 30 DAYS.
AND I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT.
UM, THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR COMPENSATION IS ALREADY BAKED INTO THE RATES.
THERE'S, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDED, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THE SAVINGS AND EVERYTHING WE WE'VE PROPOSED HERE ALREADY INCLUDED COMPENSATION FOR US.
AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MAYOR'S ASKING FOR WHERE HE'S WANT, WE WANT TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND ORANGES.
AND IS, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE THAT'S CRITICAL FOR US OTHER THAN, BECAUSE FOR BUDGETING, DO I HAVE A NUMBER TO PUT IN THE BUDGET? UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE TML NUMBER.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE, I THINK WHAT I'VE DONE IS WE'VE, UM, WE MAINTAINED, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, WITH THE OLD RATE.
ALL ONE THING WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN A SMALL GROUP IS WE CAN RUN A PROVIDER DESTRUCTION REPORT TO SEE WHO IS ACTUALLY OUT OF THE NETWORK.
TO SEE WHAT IMPACT POTENTIALLY MOVING TO, WELL I THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL SIT TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA DO AND THEN WE'LL START PULLING YOU GUYS IN.
I THINK SO, MR. PERSON, THANK YOUR TIME.
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THAT WAS A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT WE NEEDED TO GET THROUGH IT.SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'LL FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'LL INCLUDE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, SETH, AND COUNCIL COUNCILMAN, UH, HANYA, UH, TO REPRESENT COUNSEL IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IF, IF OUR PROCESS IS BROKE, LET'S DEFINE WHAT'S BROKE AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT TIME TO GO OUT AND GO FOR NEW RFP, WELL THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND DO A NEW RFP.
BUT, UH, LET'S, UH, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UH, BRINGING IT TO US.
[2. Discuss and consider the appointment of city residents to the city’s boards and commissions. – Mayor Roznovsky.]
ON TO, UM, OKAY.ITEM TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS AS CITY, UH, RESIDENTS TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS IS FIRST YOU, ON OUR SHEETS, WE HAVE THE LIST OF REAPPOINTMENTS.
AND, UH, LOOK, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH, UH, THE REAPPOINTMENTS, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.
GET THE REAPPOINTMENTS OUTTA THE WAY AND JUST HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REAPPOINTMENTS.
DO WE NEED TO READ EACH NAME IN TO EACH GROUP OR NOT? NO, SIR.
DO WE NEED TO READ EACH NAME IN HOPE BUSTER SAYING HOPEFULLY NOT FOR THE APPOINTMENTS FOR REPORT? NO, NOT FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT.
SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON REAPPOINTMENTS AS, OH, WELL I CAN'T DO IT.
I'LL TAKE MOTIONS ON REAPPOINTMENTS.
ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE ALL REAPPOINTMENTS AS WRITTEN TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.
SECOND BY, I'LL GIVE IT TO BAKER.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT VACANCIES FIRST.
VACANCY WE HAVE, AND WHAT WE'LL DO THIS IS WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST AS IT'S IN OUR PACKET HERE, AND, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS EACH ONE OF 'EM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO, UH, PLANNERS, THERE'S NO VACANCY TRAFFIC.
AND UH, SO I'LL TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON RECOMMENDATIONS ON FILLING THAT VACANCY FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR, WE'VE RECEIVED ONE OF THE PERSONS WHO, UH, ASKED FOR THEIR REQUEST WAS ROBERT BEATTY.
THAT'S HIS FIRST CHARGE, RIGHT? YES.
NOBODY ELSE ASKED BUT THAT FIRST.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT ONE.
PUTTING IT OUT ON THE LIST FOR NOW.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING BEFORE WE DO A MOTION BECAUSE WE MAY CHANGE THINGS AROUND AS WE GO ALONG.
UH, SALLY, YOU'RE TAKING NOTES, RIGHT? THAT WAS FOR LJDC? YES.
SO DOUGLAS SHELDONS ON THAT SAME THING.
KEVIN, KEVIN, B BEBE, CHAD FISHER WAS THE OTHER ONE.
YEAH, THAT WAS THEY FIRST CHARGE.
BUT MR. PATE REQUESTED TO BE ALSO ON THAT COMMITTEE.
SO SINCE HE'S ALREADY ON TRAFFIC, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE INCLUDE HIM ON THAT, UH, VACANCY FOR AND CHAD FISHER AND PETE.
SO HE WANT TO LEAVE? THEY WANT TO LEAVE? NO, HE WANTS TO STAY ON THAT.
IT'S ONLY IF NEEDED NECESSARILY.
WE DON'T MEET, THEY DON'T MEET VERY OFTEN.
BUT WE DID HAVE A, I HAD A SUGGESTION OF DOUGLAS SHELDON.
SHELDON JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR FIRST CHOICE.
YEAH, THAT WAS HIS FIRST CHOICE.
KEVIN BE AND KEVIN BE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DID ON THE LAST ONE BECAUSE THAT JACK FISHER ALMOST WROTE A BOOK ON THE, ON THE NOTES AND EXPERIENCE.
SO CHAD FISHER IS UH, IS THE FIRST PERSON ON, VERY FIRST PERSON ON THERE.
THAT'S THE REASON I HAD THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE HE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT PROCESS INTO IT.
IS THERE ANOTHER FIT FOR CHAD? NO.
WELL, LET'S LEAVE CHAD ON HIS, ON ZBA.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH LEAVING CHAD ON ZBA? YES.
SO WE HAVE BETWEEN DOUGLAS AND, UM, TRAVIS.
WELL, SHELDON, THAT WAS HIS FIRST FIRST ONE, RIGHT? AND BEBE.
PROPERTY MANAGER VERSUS OH, SHELTON
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IS INVOLVED IN HOAS.THE THING THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT HE'S INVOLVED IN HOAS AND THAT, THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING ME.
'CAUSE I MEAN, YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO PROTECT WHAT AND LOOK AT, REALLY LOOK AT, BECAUSE ZBA IS REALLY RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO.
IT HAS, THE REQUEST HAS TO MEET, WHAT IS IT? THREE TESTS.
AND SO THEY REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT JUST THAT.
AND I THINK AN HOA PERSON MIGHT BE GOOD AT THAT.
AGAIN, KEN BEBE, I THINK HE'S OR KEVIN.
UH, HE, HE'S A PROPERTY MANAGER AND STUFF.
UM, I MEAN IT'D BE GOOD TOO, I GUESS, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO, I THINK THE HOA HOW MANY TIMES IS IT ANNUALLY THEY MEET, THEY MAY NOT MEET FOR YEARS, BUT WE DO HAVE A
AS SOON AS WE GET THEY'LL BE TOLD.
AND MAYBE PERHAPS, UH, MR. SHELDON, I GUESS IF, OKAY, SO I HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE.
MR. PAT IS ALREADY ON ONE OF 'EM.
DOUGLAS, SHELDON AND CHAD FI FISHER.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO TO PARKS AND RECREATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AARON CRABBY, UH, FIRST GRADE TEACHER.
SHE'S, I THINK WOULD DO GREAT AT PARK AND RIDE.
AND BEN, MATT RAY, HE'S UH, INVOLVED IN A LOT OF BIKE, UH, UH, HIKING BIKE AND, AND THE FRISBEE GOLF COURSE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO HE IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY ALREADY.
HER BOYS ARE VERY ACTIVE AND YEAH, I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT AARON FOR, I WAS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN KING LAKE JACKSON.
KNOW WHO MARY PARKS KNOWING HER, I WOULD SAY PARKS.
I HAVE AARON REVY AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? BEN MADRE AND HOPE.
HOPE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT, YEAH.
AND THEN, UH, LET'S SEE, I HAD ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS THIS CHRIS PERSON? CHRIS MILLER DOWN FOR IT'S MILLER.
BUT WE ONLY HAVE THREE VACANCIES.
SO YEAH, WE GOT CHRIS MILLER AND WHO, WELL LET'S SEE.
WELL, Y'ALL HAVE SOMEBODY FOR CHRIS FOR KEEP, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE FOR THAT.
THAT'S, NO, WE HAVE BEN COME UP MADY SPEAK.
HUH? SEE THOSE KEEP LIKE JACKSON.
SO WE JUST, NOBODY HAS ASKED FOR IT'S OUR APPOINTMENTS.
SO NOBODY HAD ASKED FOR, UH, KLJB THE FIRST AS THE FIRST CHOICE.
NOT A FIRST CHOICE, RIGHT? ME? WE HAVE YOU THE LAY DOWN.
THAT'S YOUR LAY'S APPOINTMENT.
OKAY, LET'S, RIGHT NOW LET'S GO BACK TO PARKS AND REC.
WE'RE KIND, WE HAVE UH, AARON CRAVEY.
IS THAT IT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? YEP.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE GO TO VACANCIES IN KEEP LAKE JACKSON.
SO WE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THERE? HANG ON.
ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CHAIR? HANG ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS ACCESS.
SHE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO NAMES.
THERE'S NOBODY HAD ANY REQUESTS FROM THE FIRST OR SECOND POSITIONS.
CHRISTOPHER, SECOND CHRISTOPHER MILLER.
THE ONE THAT WAS CHRISTOPHER MILLER.
AND FOR LIBRARY, WENDY HAD HAD, UH, JESSICA ROGERS.
AND THERE'S TWO ON THERE THAT, THERE'S WENDY HESTER.
AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE THERE IS VERONICA LANDAM, RIGHT? YEAH.
WENDY HESTER PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN HER THAN THE LAST PERSON.
SO DID, SO WENDY HESTER WOULD BE MY, I KNOW HER PERSONALLY.
YEAH, I KNOW THEY DON'T MEET THAT MUCH, BUT MY WIFE NEVER GOT SWORN IN.
SHE, THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION AND WE WAITED FOR HER.
THE LAST MEETING I CALLED YOU, YOU WERE ON THE CRUISE? NOT ME.
SO, SO THAT'S THE END OF THE LIST.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT I WROTE DOWN HERE, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS FOR
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LJDC IS ROBERT BEATTY? YES.UM, PARKS AND REC IS, UH, AARON REY MIN, BEN, UH, MANDY.
AND THEN FOR PEOPLE LIKE JACKSON, BEAUTIFUL IS CHRISTOPHER MILLER.
AND THEN FINALLY FOR LIBRARIES.
EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH THAT? YES SIR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? AND IT'S, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND YOU WILL HAVE TO NAME THESE FOLKS OUT.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPOINT, UH, ROBERT BEATTY TO LJDC, UH, DOUGLAS SHELTON, TO ANN CHAD FISHER TO ZBA, BEN MAD AARON, UH, GRAMMY AND, UH, HOPE BOAT TO PARK AND REC CHRIS MILLER TO KLJB AND WENDY HESTER TO LIBRARY.
ALRIGHT, HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANYA AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS WHERE I GET HERE.
[3. Appoint city council members to serve as liaisons on the city’s boards and commissions. – Mayor Roznovsky]
APPOINT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS LIAISONS ON, UH, CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.SO THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE UP IN THE PAGE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT, UM, UM, UH, APPOINTMENTS ARE GONNA GO IS LIBRARIES.
UH, YOU NEED TO SCROLL UP ONE FOR THE NEW, NEW APPOINTMENTS.
OH, IS THAT, THAT'S THE OLD ONE.
CAN YOU OPEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT? I HAVE TO PULL UP MY COPY HERE.
SO HERE WHAT WE'VE GOT IS LIBRARY.
VANESSA HANYA, UH, BOARD OF HEALTH IS RHONDA.
SETH MUSEUM BOARD IS MYSELF AND MATT RODDIS.
UH, WE ARE ACTUAL MEMBERS ON THAT ONE.
ZBA IS JOHN BAKER PARKS, MATT BROADUS, TRAFFIC,
BUSTER BUELL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.
RHONDA, SETH, UH, I'M GONNA KEEP STAY ON D-S-B-A-D-S-D-B, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T MEET.
UM, CHARTER REVIEW THAT'S OPEN.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A LIAISON TO EMS. I THINK THE NEED AND PURPOSE FOR THAT HAS GONE AWAY MYSELF, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT LATER DATE.
UH, ANIMAL SHELTER AS MYSELF, HOT MYSELF, HAC IS MYSELF ALONG WITH VENE, IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND THEN, UH, LJDC IS MYSELF AND JOHN BAKER.
THAT'S THE WAY IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I'VE GOT IT.
I WANTED TO MOVE THINGS AROUND.
I, I KNOW VERNA'S BEEN ON PLANNERS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO GET, UH, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, IN THERE TO GET SOME EXPOSURE AND SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THAT SWITCH.
WE SERVED THEM, SERVED US WELL IN THAT POSITION ON THE BOARD PLUS AND ALSO AS LIAISON.
SO THAT'S, SO NOT A LOT OF CHANGE, BUT A LITTLE CHANGE.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION
[4. Discuss and consider the Traffic Commission’s proposed speed hump policy to be included in the Traffic Calming Manual. – Modesto Mundo ]
AND CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC COMMISSIONS PROPOSE SPEED HUMP POLICY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC, UH, CALMING MANUAL.UH, MODESTO, UH, THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION MET OVER A COUPLE MONTHS AND MY MEMORY WAS THAT COUNCIL WANTED THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION TO KIND OF RE-LOOK AT THAT.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE, THE SPEED HUMP? IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A POLICY, IT'S A SECTION IN THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL, UM, THAT GOT PUT IN THERE.
AND USUALLY WHEN A CITIZEN COMES AND ASK, YOU KNOW, FOR A INVARIABLY IT'S ALWAYS A SPEED UP, WE HAND THEM A COPY OF THE WHOLE MANUAL, RIGHT? AND THEY SEE EVERYTHING.
AND THE MANUAL'S MORE KIND OF A GUIDELINE FOR STAFF AND THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION AS A GO BY.
AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED TO LOOK AT TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT AND BE ABLE TO MAKE IT LIKE THREE OR FOUR PAGES THAT THEY COULD GIVE TO A CITIZEN THAT SPECIFICALLY TALKED REALLY TO THE SPEED UP.
THE MANUAL WOULD STILL SERVE AS A GUIDELINE FOR THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION IF THERE WAS ANOTHER TOOL THAT THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT AND NOT SPEED UPS.
SO IT WAS REALLY, THAT WAS THEIR PURPOSE, IS TO GIVE SOMETHING THAT WAS SIMPLE TO THE CITIZEN AS A GUIDELINE TO LOOK AT AND CLARIFY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, SOME ROADS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, MADE THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A SPEED UP ON, UM, THAT WAY EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD REQUESTS TO PUT SPEED UP.
UM, SO THAT CLARIFIES THAT, UH, IN THE BEGINNING.
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WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO WITH THIS.THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE PETITION FORMAT.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY CHANGES.
THEY WERE CURIOUS OF WHAT WE HAD DONE FOR THE STOP SIGN AND, UH, PARKING SIGN REQUEST WHERE WE HAD DONE THE SURVEY.
THEY LIKED THAT AND SAID THAT COULD ALWAYS BE MADE AS AN OFFER.
BUT AFTER THEY MADE THEIR VOTE, I SETTLED ON IT FOR A WHILE AND THEN, UM, DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY BRING IT TO ON AN AGENDA UNTIL NOW.
BUT AFTER, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT IT MORE, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE TAKE THAT OPTION REALLY OFF OF THE BURDEN OF A CITIZEN OF DOING A PETITION AND JUST PUT IT ON STAFF.
RIGHT? I THINK WE GET BETTER DATA COLLECTION IF WE SEND OUT A LETTER TO THE RESIDENTS ONCE THE SCOPE IS, IF, IF THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION AGREES WITH THE CITIZENS SAYS YES, HERE'S THE SCOPE, YOU OUGHT TO CONTACT THESE 20 HOMES.
LET STAFF DO THAT AND THEN REPORT BACK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING VERSUS LEAVING THAT UP TO THE CITIZEN TO DO, TO DO.
THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I HAVE FROM THEIR POLICY.
UH, CHANGE WHERE IT WAS KIND OF IN FLUX.
AND I WAS GONNA ASK A QUESTION IF WE WOULD KEEP THAT OUT THERE.
IS THAT, UH, MY CONCERN IS PETITION PROBABLY HAS SOME LEGAL, UH, DEFINITION THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT STRONG FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UH, INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD LIKE A REQUEST PETITION CARRIES A LITTLE BIT OF WEIGHT, IT DOES PETITION DOES MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, SO, AND IT'S, IT DOES HAVE MORE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO I GUESS, UM, I MEAN THEY ALWAYS HAVE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, YOU CAN DEFINE ANY, ANY WAY YOU WANT, BUT IT, IT, IT'S ALL THE PETITION THINGS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.
LIKE MAYBE HE'S A DIFFERENT FORM.
WELL, WE WOULD USE IT IF WE'RE SITTING IT DOWN, IT'S GONNA, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA CHANGE IT TO A SURVEY, RIGHT? YES.
AND SO IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD DONE WHEN WE HAD THE, WHEN WE SURVEYED ON THE REMOVAL RIGHT.
SO WE WOULD SHOW COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY WE CONTACTED THIS HOME, THEY SAID YES OR NO.
UM, BUT WE, WE WOULD PROBABLY TRACK IT BY ACTUALLY SENDING OUT A LETTER FROM THE CITY.
AND WHAT YOU COULD DO IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE IS, THERE IS THE TRAFFIC COMING REQUEST FORM.
SO A CITIZEN CAN COME IN, FILL OUT THAT OUT AND PRESENT IT TO TRAFFIC.
IS THAT WHAT THE IDEA IS? YES.
AND THEN TRAFFIC DO DOES THEIR THING.
IT COMES TO US AND COUNSEL SAYS, OKAY, GO FORWARD WITH DOING A SURVEY.
AND SO YOU COULD TAKE THIS THING THAT WE'RE CALLING A PETITION AND JUST CHANGE IT TO A SURVEY YES.
AND WHAT ALL WE'LL DO IS, IS MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE CHANGING THE WORDING FROM TO SURVEY AND THEN PUT IN THERE IS, IS THAT THIS IS TO BE CONDUCTED BY STAFF.
I ALSO THINK HOOVER REQUESTS THE SPEED HOME FOR BUMP.
BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T RUN INTO WHAT WE RAN INTO OVER HERE, RIGHT.
AND THE DEFINITION OF THE DESCRIPTION STUFF, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT IN HERE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BY SIGNING THIS PETITION IS YOU'RE AGREEING TO ALLOW SPEED HUMP TO BE PLACED IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME IF IT'S NECESSARY.
I THINK THERE'S, I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, MY SUGGESTION IS MAKE THOSE TWEAKS.
SO IF YOU'LL LET US, UH, WITH PERMISSION, WE'LL MAKE THOSE TWEAKS AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
FOR THE INFORMAL DOC, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, RIGHT.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR SITTING YOU ON THIS AND IT JUST, EVERY COUNT SEEM TO BE LARGE AND RIGHT.
AND I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT NOTE, IF YOU SIGN THIS, THIS COULD, IT COULD BE IN YOUR FRONT YARD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER INTERESTING DISCUSSION I HAD MENTIONED, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE, UH, TO, TO DO IT WAS WE CAME FROM STANFORD, CAME ACROSS, UH, ACTUALLY NICOLE HAD COME ACROSS A COMPANY THAT, UH, COULD DO A SPEED SURVEY RIGHT.
AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING WHERE IT WAS PICKING UP THE, THE DATA OFF THE BLUETOOTH, THAT'S I GUESS MAYBE 35% OF THE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT, UM, THAT ABILITY.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY VERY ACCURATE.
WE HAD A CITIZEN COMMAND AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A CURB ON LAKE ROAD.
AND, UM, LO AND BEHOLD, WHEN WE SENT THE, THE TRAFFIC DIVISION OUT THERE, IT WAS SPOT ON WHAT THEY WERE FINDING ON THEIR RADARS.
AND IT, IT, IT, IT WENT DOWN TO A SEGMENT.
IT CAN SEGMENT A ROAD AND IT'S SEGMENTED THAT BEND IN THE ROAD.
SO IN, IN A PRACTICAL SENSE, IF A CITIZEN WANTED TO COME IN AND COMPLAIN OR CAME IN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SPEEDING, WE COULD VERIFY IN FIVE MINUTES ACTUALLY IF IT, IF THERE ACTUALLY WAS SPEEDING ON THERE, OR WE CAN, UH, ASK
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IT TO DO ITS OWN SURVEY FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.THE COST WAS $22,000 A YEAR AND IT JUST COULDN'T QUITE BE JUSTIFIED FOR SPEED HUMPS.
UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WASN'T INTERESTED IN IT.
BUT THE, THE BENEFIT, THE BENEFIT FOR US ALL IS, IS THAT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
IT'S THE BENEFIT FOR US ALL IS, IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE REAL TIME INFORMATION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS, FOR SOME REASON THERE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN A, A SPEEDING ISSUE SPIKE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IS WE CAN DEPLOY TRAFFIC RIGHT AWAY AND NOT WAIT.
AND WE, AND THAT WAY WE BETTER USE, UTILIZE OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAN WHAT WE CAN TODAY.
AND SO IT'S, YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN, IT MOST LIKELY WILL NOT MAKE IT IN THE BASE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.
BUT, UH, IT'LL BE THERE, BUT, UH, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SP, UH, SENSE FOR SPEED UP.
BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR, UH, BETTER UTILIZING OUR, ANOTHER USE OUR RESOURCES.
I JUST WANTED TO DROP THAT IN.
UH, ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
SO YOU BRING BACK, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE NEXT, IN THE NEXT MEETING.
[5. Discuss and consider approval of a professional services agreement with Baker & Lawson, Inc. to provide engineering design and construction plans for the street panel replacement project in an amount not exceeding $95,000. – Sal Aguirre]
HAVE, UH, ITEM FIVE IS DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH BAKER LAWSON, INC.TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING DESIGN AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR STREET PANEL REPLACEMENTS.
UH, BAKER LAWSON WAS SELECTED, UH, FROM AN SOQ EARLIER AND APPROVED BY YOU, UH, IN THE PREVIOUS, HAD A PREVIOUS MEETING ON MARCH.
NOW ARE WE GETTING INTO THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL FROM THEM TO DO THE ACTUAL DESIGN ON THIS, UH, NEXT PHASE OF OUR, THE SPOT REPAIR, PANEL REPAIR, UH, PROJECT? THIS ONE ENTAILS A MILLION AND A HALF.
THAT WAS PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN, UH, WHEN WE DID
UH, SO NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE, TO THAT POINT.
NOW WE NEED TO START MOVING ON THAT DESIGN.
WE, UH, HAVE ALREADY DONE A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF THAT.
AND WE ARE FINISHING UP ON THE, ON THE LAST PART OF THE $2 MILLION PROJECT, UH, OF THE $1 MILLION PROJECT, UH, WITH THE, UH, WILLOW AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
UH, AND SOME OTHER SPOT REPAIR, UH, THAT WE ARE STILL LEFT WITH, UH, WHICH WILL BE FINISHED SOON.
SO THIS ONE THEN TAKES CARE OF WHAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT 116 PANELS THAT WERE SELECTED FROM THE RAS, UH, ROADWAY ASSESSMENT SYSTEM THAT YOU DISCUSSED SOMETIME BACK, UH, THAT ALSO GIVE, UM, A GOOD INDICATION OF THE, UH, PAVEMENT CONDITION THAT WE SOMEWHAT, UH, ARE PLANNING ON ADOPTING AS, UH, A GOOD WAY OF MEASURING AND SELECTING, UH, FUTURE PROJECTS.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST YOU'RE ASKING US TO PROVE THE 95,000, THE $95,000 THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, WE FIND TO BE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, FAIR AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED CON CONSIDERING THE PREVIOUS, UH, SPOT REPAIR, UH, PROJECT THAT WE HAVE DONE.
UH, THIS IS ABOUT SIX, UH, 7% OF THE TOTAL, UH, PROJECT, UH, PROPOSED OF THE TOTAL, UH, ESTIMATED, UH, PROJECT, UH, COMPARED TO ABOUT 15% WAS THE LAST ONE THAT I HAD, UH, THAT I, THAT I SAW.
SO WHO, WHO'S DONE THIS WORK FOR US IN THE PAST? UH, IN THE PAST IT WAS, UH, WELL, IN THE PAST WE WERE DOING IT OURSELVES UNTIL IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE IT BECAME TOO MU TOO MANY, UH, PROJECTS THERE.
UH, THEN WE, UH, THEN WE HIRED A WAG, UH, WAG, UH, FROM HOUSTON TO DO THE LAST, UH, THE, THE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO PANEL REPLACEMENT IS PRETTY EASY.
WE GOT SPECS AND WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'D SAY 7% IS REASONABLE, VERY REASONABLE TO MEAN $95,000.
WE CAN DO A LOT MORE PANEL REPAIR.
BUT ARE YOU STILL, YOU'RE STILL, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN, IS IT MORE THAN JUST A SPECIFICATION OR ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING ENGINEER DESIGN? THEY DOING A LOT OF PARTICULAR SPOTS.
THEY'RE DOING SURVEYING AND ALL THOSE SPOTS ALSO.
AND THAT INCLUDE, THIS INCLUDES THE SURVEYING COST.
THAT INCLUDES THE SURVEYING PART.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL DRAWING OF THE, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT THERE, SEE WHAT THEY'RE MATCHING, SEE WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH THE DRAINAGE, UH, THE GRADING OF THE, OF THE GUTTER LINES.
SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF HOW TO GET THAT WATER THROUGH THE EXISTING, UH, SPOTS.
I, I SAW THAT I WAS UNDER THE SAME PERSON.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS MORE LIKE THE SIDEWALK BED WHERE IT JUST SAID, WE NEED TO REMOVE RIGHT, RIGHT.
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LINEAR FEET AND HERE'S OUR SPECIFICATIONS.HOW WAS SAYING NO, IT'S A MORE COMPLICATED, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
I I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SAY SURVEYING IS, IS THERE, LIKE, THEY'RE GONNA GO OVER AND LOOK AT PANEL 14 ON Y POND.
AND THEY'RE GONNA SURVEY IT AND THEY'RE GONNA FIND OUT, WELL, PANEL 15 AND 14, EVEN YOU, YOU CAN'T MATCH 'EM UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCLUDE 15 TO MA TO MAKE IT A GOOD MATCH UP.
SO IT'S, IT'S, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT THEY WERE DOING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST GOING THERE AND STICKING IT AND SAYING READY, PUT THE SEAL ON IT.
YOU KNOW, 95,000 ENGINEERING COSTS NOWADAYS IS, I KNOW WE GOTTA QUIT PAYING YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
HEY, SAL, BEING A NEW KID ON THE BLOCK, THIS PANEL REPAIR, IS THIS A, A YEARLY DEAL? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT EVERY YEAR TO GET PANEL OR WE GOT IT SET UP? NO, YOU PERIODICALLY SAID IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT WAS PART OF THE STREET BOND PROGRAM THAT YOU CAME UP WITH.
WHAT HERE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT.
WELL, UM, IT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, THE CONSULTANT, UH, FOR R-F-I-R-S, YEAH.
RES HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, ON THE MAIN ARTERIALS AFTER THIS EXPENDITURE WAS RECOMMENDING $500,000 A YEAR PIECE FOUND REPLACEMENTS 380.
WE WERE INITIALLY PUT IN 350 AS A PLANNING AND THEY SAID WE WOULD STILL SEE A DEGRADE.
THEY WERE RECOMMENDING TO STAY ABOVE THAT WE WOULD NEED A BUDGET.
YOU GIMME ANY KIND OF ESTIMATED TIME? TWO YEARS TO DO ALL THIS.
THERE'S ONE THIS 1.5 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, WELL THIS, UH, THIS, WELL, LET'S SAY IT TOOK THE BETTER, IT'S PROBABLY TAKEN TWO YEARS TO, TO USE THE, UH, $1 MILLION PROJECT.
THERE'S A, UH, THE MILLION AND A HALF IS PROBABLY GONNA TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO DO THAT.
SO FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OKAY, GOOD.
AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT THERE.
FOR BUT GOING FORWARD, LIKE MODESTO WAS SAYING, IS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPEND $500,000 A YEAR TO KEEP AHEAD OF THE FAILING STREETS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MAINTAIN TRYING TO ASK IT.
IT'LL BE THAT'S HOW MANY, 500,000 DOWN THE ROAD? FOREVER IF FOREVER.
BUT BASICALLY THAT'S JUST THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE ROAD.
THAT WAS JUST THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE POUND WE OWE.
DEPEND ON HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, DEPENDING ON HOW 20, JUST A COST, UH,
20 GRAND PER PANEL, JUST AT BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
WELL, HOW MUCH IS THE PANEL? WHAT LENGTH IS THE PANEL? 60 FEET.
60 FEET BY 12 FEET, OR 60 FEET BY 24? UH, NO HALF, JUST HALF OF THE CAM.
HALF OR ONE LANE ON THE ARTERIALS.
NOT, NOT, UH, ON ONE LANE OUTTA TWO LANES ON THAT SIDE WILL COST AROUND PER 60 FOOT LENGTH OF PANEL.
SO SAL, IS THESE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON YON, ARE THESE, UH, EASTBOUND, WESTBOUND, BOTH LANES? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST 1, 1, 1 LANE? JUST ONE HALF OF OF LANE.
IT COULD BE INBOUND LANE, IT CAN BE OUTBOUND LANE.
YEAH, IN OR THE BAKER AND LAWSON WOULD DO THE DETERMINATION.
WHICH, WHICH LANE? NO, WE HAVE ALREADY MADE THAT DETERMINATION.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHICH ONE IT IS.
OH, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DETAIL ON THAT ONE TO GIVE YOU THE, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF 10 PANELS, IS THAT BOTH SIDES OR ONE SIDE? WE, YEAH, WE CAN GIVE YOU A DESCRIPTION OF, OF THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS THOUGH.
YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND GET THAT TO COUNCIL.
ALL IS JUST BREAKDOWN ON WHERE THE PANELS ARE.
IF IT'S ONE LANE, TWO LANES OR WHAT WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU A, A GRAPHIC ON, ON ON THOSE AREAS.
SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO CHARGE YOU THOUGH.
SO WE'VE GOT THE, UH, ITEM FIVE IS TO APPROVE $95,000 FOR THE, UH, ENGINEERING DESIGN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR STREET PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT, NOT EXCEEDING 95,000.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN, SETH.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT IS ON OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
BUT ON THE MAIN THIRD FACTOR, IT'S ON THE LIST OF STREETS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST.
IT'S, THEY'RE MOSTLY MAIN THOROUGHFARE ROADS, STREETS THAT WE DID STUDY ON.
[6. Discuss and consider reallocating the GLO Mitigation Method of Distribution funds to the Clute Flag Lake Road drainage project. – Modesto Mundo ]
ITEM SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RELO, REALLOCATION OF THE GLO, UH, MITIGATION[01:55:01]
METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION, UH, FUNDS TO, UH, CLUT, FLAG LAKE ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT.MODESTO, UM, IS JUST A REFRESHER.
UH, THE, WE HAVE A, WE BUDGETED FOR A GLO MID MOD PROJECT.
THESE ARE REALLY HARVEY FUNDS, UH, THAT WENT THROUGH HJC THAT, UH, THE CITIES WERE AWARDED.
OUR GRANT AMOUNT WAS A LITTLE, UH, A LITTLE OVER 2.1 MILLION.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT IN THE, UM, IN THE PINE, THE PINE, THE PINE AREA.
IS THIS THE DESTIN PROJECT OR THE, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? THE ONE THAT LEFT THE, THE TON PROJECT? YES.
UH, TON DID COME UP WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
A LOT OF IT WAS TO HELP, UH, NEAR THE SCHOOL, UM, ON THERE.
BUT IT WAS A VERY, THE SCOPE WAS MUCH LARGER.
WE'VE HAD TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE IT, UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, BECAUSE OF THE COST.
AND REALLY NOW IT'S A CULVERT PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS THE, THE MAIN PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
NONE OF THE OTHER PORTIONS WORK UNLESS YOU, UH, REPLACE THE CULVERT UNDER DIXIE DRIVE.
UH, CONNECTING TO THE, THE CLUTE SIDE, BECAUSE THE PROJECT ALSO CHANGED IN SCOPE, THE BENEFIT AREA CHANGED.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEN WE HAD TO RE, GLO REQUIRED US TO RESURVEY BECAUSE IT WASN'T HITTING BOTH CENSUS TRACKS EQUALLY.
THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY, I THINK, UM, NO, CORRECT ME, HOW MANY SURVEYS DID WE HAVE TO GET? HOW MANY COUNCILS? YES.
HOW MANY COUNCILS? 213 HAD TO BE SURVEYED.
WE ARE NOW SHORT FOUR TWO, SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY GOING, I MEAN, HE'S GONNA WALK THAT BEFORE HE LEAVES
HE MAY, BUT COUNCILMAN SHANYA IS, UH, OFFERED TO WALK, UH, THOSE HOUSES AS WELL.
SO THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN SHANYA AND MILFORD WALKED, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS HIS FAREWELL.
WE MAY ONLY HAVE 48 HOURS OF, OF MILFORD, UH, TO DO THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE OF, UH, OF GETTING THAT SURVEYED.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAST PUSH, WE PROBABLY CAN, IT'S STILL, I WANTED TO STILL BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO YOU BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER OF CLU APPROACHED, UM, RHE AND I, WE MET WITH THEM AND THEY ARE AT, UM, A COST.
THEY ANTICIPATE A COST, UH, OVERRUN ON THEIR GLO PROJECT.
THEIR BIG PROJECT, THEIR $10 MILLION PROJECT.
A ONE PORTION OF THAT IS THE FLAG LINK DRAINAGE PROJECT, WHICH WE ARE 90% OF THE BENEFICIARY.
IF THEY CAN'T GET IT IN WITHIN THEIR BUDGET, THAT'S THE SECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CUT AND, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
MY QUESTION TO COUNSEL IS IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH GLO TO, YOU KNOW, EXPEND THESE FUNDS ON FLAG OR THIS ONE, AND NOW THAT WE'VE REDUCED THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT SCOPE ON THIS, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE THOSE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, APPLIED TO THE FLAG LAKE, UM, PROJECT, UM, TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, SAL AND RHE? UM, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY WE, WE PROBABLY BENEFIT MORE FROM THE FLAG LAKE PROJECT THAN THE OTHER ONE.
UM, AND SO IF WE HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN, WE PROBABLY WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR MONEY BE APPLIED THERE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF GLO WILL WILL ALLOW US TO, SO WE'LL STILL PURSUE THE SURVEY, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR THE GLO, EVEN THOUGH WE PHRASED THAT QUESTION.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE, UH, PREFERENCE OF COUNSEL WOULD BE.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TONIGHT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION.
I'M SORRY, JUST, I THOUGHT I MADE YOU, I THOUGHT I WAS MAKING YOU CRY.
MAYOR CRIES ABOUT GIVING MONEY.
SO THE MITIGATION METHOD, THE GLO IS, SO WHAT IS THE, THE DRAINAGE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT MILFORD AND VENE ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE ON.
WHAT PROJECT IS THAT CALLED? THAT'S THE MID MOD PROJECT.
AND THEN INCLUDE FLAG RIDGE PROJECT IS A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
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BUT IT IS NOT A HARVEY FUND, UH, PROJECT.SO THIS, THIS ADDRESSES THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM ON THE FAR END OF FLAG LAKE ROAD AND THE KLUT ONE.
SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND, UH, GARDENIA, WHATEVER IT IS OR WHATEVER IT'S NO, NOT GARDENIA.
WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S, NO, IT IS, UH, FLAG, UH, FLAG LAKE, UH, ROAD, WHICH IS THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN US AND KLUT.
IT IS AT THE REAR OF, UH, THE, UH, MCDONALD'S.
IT STARTS, YEAH, IT STARTS AT THE H AT WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD HEB, THE BPORT SHOPPING CENTER.
IT CARRIES WATER THAT CROSSES OVER FROM, UM, I'M GOING TO, FROM THE NORTH SHADY OAKS AREA.
UH, AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM AREA EVER SINCE I GOT HERE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A FLOOD ONE TIME THAT ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE HOTELS AT THAT TIME.
UH, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT NOW.
UH, THE CLARION THEY CALL CLARION.
UH, SO WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH, UH, CONDITIONS LIKE THAT ONE.
THAT AREA HAS RECENTLY STARTED EITHER REDEVELOPING OR DEVELOPING.
FINALLY, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, COUNTY PUT IN THEIR NEW, UH, THEIR NEW OFFICES RIGHT THERE ON PEACH STREET THERE.
AND THERE HAS MOVEMENT THAT HAS BEEN MOVEMENT RECENTLY ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
THE TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT UP THERE.
THE TOWNHOUSES ALSO, AND THE TOWN TOWNHOUSES WERE MADE TO, UH, PUT IN THE, UH, PHEON MADE HIM PUT IN A DEFENSE POND, WHICH IN THE PAST HAD NOT BEEN REQUIRED.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATED A LOT OF STRESS INTO THE ACTUAL SMALL LOT THAT THEY WERE DEVELOPING INTO.
AND, UH, BUT HE DID IT WITH THE, UH, POSSIBILITY OF THAT ROAD BEING IMPROVED BY THE PROJECT FROM KLUT.
UH, OF COURSE NOW IT'S IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN SORT OF PERIL ABOUT GO GOING THROUGH.
BUT ORIGINALLY WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I WAS TASKED WITH, YOU KNOW, DRAWING UP A PLAN IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THAT DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
AT THAT TIME, UH, IT WAS STILL UNDER THE CITY, UH, THE CITY, UH, UH, CITY LIMIT.
UH, LATER IT WAS TRANSFERRED OVER WHEN WE, WHEN WE GOT, WHEN WE TRADED OFF DIXIE DRIVE FOR FLAG LAKE FOR FLAG ROAD.
UH, SO, UH, AT THAT TIME I HAD ALREADY DRAWN UP A PLAN.
WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE CITY OF CLU TO PARTICIPATE AND ALSO VELASCO DRAINAGE DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE SINCE THEY ARE THE COMMON DENOMINATOR BETWEEN US.
OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME, CLU DIDN'T HAVE A, A, AN ESTABLISHED TAX SPACE LIKE THEY DO NOW.
SO THEY WEREN'T REALLY WILLING TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ONE.
AND WE DON'T BLAME 'EM BECAUSE MOST OF THE DRAINAGE THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THERE COMES FROM OUR SIDE.
SO I REMEMBER WHENEVER WE DID THE, THE BIG AAL STUDY.
UH, IT, IT DOES SHOW SIGNIFICANT TO FLOODING THERE AT THAT LOCATION.
THIS IS WHERE WE ALSO HAVE THAT, UH, THAT PROBLEM THAT ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, WITH THE GARLAND AREA THAT GOES UNDERWATER UNDER ANY TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCE TO BE HONESTLY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE INCLUDED THIS AS OUR PROJECT HAD IT BEEN ON THE TABLE.
'CAUSE IT SHOWED UP ON THE EAST SIDE REGISTER.
IS IT? IT IS A PROJECT, BUT IT IS NOT OURS.
BUT IT WAS ALSO, IT WAS BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY ALU.
YOU KNOW, PRESU BY THE GLL PROJECT.
AND SO WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER PROJECTS, ALTA, RIGHTFULLY SO, WENT TO THE NEXT BIGGEST PROBLEM AND IT WAS OVER BY OWEN ROBERTS AND SOME OF THE DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, THERE, WELL IT WAS, IT WAS FOR BOYLE SCHOOL.
THAT'S WHERE HE HAD THE, THE MOST PROBLEM WITH.
AND SO YOU LEMME GET THIS CORRECT, YOU, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE, YOU DEVELOPED A PLAN.
SO YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH ALDEN DOWELL WHENEVER YOU
HE GAVE ME THE HISTORY OF HOW THE CITY GOT THAT ROAD AND CLUE, GOT THE OTHER ROAD AND YEAH.
SO WHAT YOU'RE WANTING FROM US IS IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL GETTING THE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, SO WE MOST LIKELY WHAT I, UM, WHAT DO YOU YOU WANT FROM US ON THIS ONE? ITEM SIX.
WHAT'S THE DEADLINE TO GET THE NEXT TWO PEOPLE? IS THERE DEADLINE? THERE'S NOT A DEADLINE, BUT AT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, G IS GONNA ASK US TO GET OFF THE POT.
UM, MY GOAL IS TO SEE IF WE IS 10 MORE DAYS.
UM, YOU'VE GIVEN THEM A STATUS
AND WE'VE ALSO MADE THE REQUEST, CAN THESE FUNDS BE MOVED? RIGHT.
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KNOW, TO ANOTHER PROJECT, WHICH I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW YET.MY QUESTION TO COUNSEL IS EVEN IF WE GET THE TWO, WOULD YOU WANT TO, IF POSSIBLE, WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE THE FUNDS TO THE, UH, FLAG LAKE PROJECT? THAT'S A HARD QUESTION.
WELL, UH, HONESTLY, THE PROJECT THAT WE WILL BE DOING AT, UH, PINE DITCH DOES NOT DO JUSTICE TO THE FLOODING PROBLEMS AT ALL.
IT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE, UH, THE HYDRAULIC LEVEL UPSTREAM BY SIGNIFICANTLY BY JUST DOING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO, WHICH IS TO, UH, IMPROVE THE, UH, THE CROSSING OF, UH, DIXIE DRIVE IN ORDER TO MATCH THE NEW IMPROVED AREA ACROSS ON, ON, ON, UH, CLT SIDE.
SO IT REALLY DO, WOULDN'T DO IT JUSTICE.
WE WOULD NOT REALLY, IT'S GET ANY TYPE OF BENEFIT.
IT'S STEP ONE OF IT WOULD BE STEP ONE OF MANY STEPS TO GO UP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, TO THE SCHOOL AREA.
SO WHICH PROJECT IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT'S THE MID MOD PROJECT.
THE MID MOD ONE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE TWO THAT'S, SO THE BIGGEST IMPACT WOULD COME FROM SECOND.
THE BIGGEST IMPACT WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE TO MOVE MONEY OVER, CORRECT? NO, SOUTH IS THIS AREA ALL SOUTH.
THE PLANTATION, PLANTATION STREET.
CAN YOU THROW A MAP UP? NO, NO.
I MEAN THE, THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH GOING THE MONEY TO CLUT, YOU KNOW, TO THEIR PROJECT.
IT, IT IMPACTS PRIMARY, WELL, NOT ONLY THE SOUTH PART OF PLANTATION, THE NO, THE NORTH PART OF PLANTATION THAT GOES ACROSS THAT WAY.
SO IT'S, IT IS GOT BOTH, BUT IT DOES THE MOST IMPACT OR THE MOST BENEFIT TO THE SOUTH PART OF PLANTATION.
YOU WANNA, AND I'LL LET SAL POINT OUT THE PROJECT IN REALITY, WE DON'T NEED AN ANSWER NOW.
I NEED TO PROBABLY STILL ONE FINISH.
SEE IF WE CAN GET THE TWO SURVEYS AND THEN GET AN ANSWER FROM GLO AND THEN WE CAN BRING YOU BACK WITH CAN WE DO IT OR NOT.
SO MY THING IS, I'M NOT GONNA GO SWEAT FOR ANOTHER HALF A DAY.
CAN YOU BRING I ALREADY WASTED HALF A DAY ALREADY.
MY DEAL IS IF YOU CAN GET AN ANSWER FROM GLO TOMORROW, THERE'S NO NEED FOR TO GO.
AND IF WE GIVE YOU DIRECTION OF, IF YOU GET APPROVAL FROM GLO TO PUT THE MONEY OVER HERE, LET'S MOVE TOMORROW.
THERE'S NO NEED FORNE AND FOR, UH, UH, MILFORD TO, UH, THAT'S TRUE.
SO SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT THERE.
THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PASSING THE, UH, THE MONEY OVER TO THEIR PROJECT IS RIGHT HERE.
THE, THE DITCH THAT RUNS ACROSS OR RUNS PARALLEL WITH FLAG LAKE, UH, FLAG LAKE ROAD OR UH, DRIVE HERE THAT GOES, ALL THESE AREA RIGHT HERE DRAINS INTO THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND THEN ALL THESE AREA BETWEEN GARLAND AND UH, AND FLAG.
THAT DITCH THAT'S SOUTH, SOUTH PARK AND THE OTHER ONE S SOUTH.
CAN YOU SHOW THE OTHER ONE? OH, IF YOU GO DOWN THE PINE, I GUESS YOU HEARD THE ALI IS MOVING, THE PINE IS RIGHT HERE.
YOU SEE THIS BLUE, THIS BLUE LINE THAT GOES IN THERE.
THAT IS REALLY THE WHOLE TRAJECTORY OF THAT PARTICULAR DRAINAGE HERE.
AP BOAL IS THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN TARGET THAT HELSON HAD BEEN, UH, HOPING TO, TO, TO ALLEVIATE WITH THIS PROJECT IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT THE MONEY THAT GIVEN US, UH, GIVEN BY, UH, GIVEN TO US BY UH, JLO BY THIS MID MOD WAS ENOUGH JUST TO MAKE IMPROVEMENT RIGHT HERE AT THIS STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE AT WILLOW DRIVE.
SO IT'S NOT CLEANING UP CULVERT OR DRIVE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WITH PALM LANE THEN? NO.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF DOING A PROJECT, THE STREET PROJECT THAT DOES CONTAIN ALL THOSE OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
THE DRAINAGE SITUATION, UH, MR. MAYOR, IF WE DON'T DO THE GLO, THE MILLMONT, WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO SURRENDER THE MONEY TO GLO BECAUSE THE FLAG LEG IS NOT WITHIN OUR CORPORATE BOUNDARY.
SO CL HAS TO, AND GLO DOESN'T KNOW THEY'RE GONNA GIVE EXTRA MONEY OR NOT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN, THEN THEY SHOULD GIVE US EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE THEN WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PROJECT.
IT BELONGS TO THE CL BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT GLO GONNA GIVE THAT EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE AS GIVE EXTRA MONEY TO, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MONEY HOUSTON IS AFTER THAT MONEY.
WELL THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO GO IS LIKE, CAN WE DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, SURRENDER OUR 2.1 RIGHT TO THIS PROJECT SINCE WE'RE A BENEFICIARY OF IT.
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WE, AND WE GO BACK, THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND SHOES BACK TO THIS AREA.YOU KNOW, IF I WAS THE GLOI SAID, WELL IF YOU NOT REALLY WANT THE MONIES, EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, YOU MAY NOT GET THE GRANT.
BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THEIR MONEY, YOU WILLING TO GIVE IT AWAY, THEN WHY WOULD YOU BE GETTING THE GRANT TO BE APPROVED ANYWAY? I MEAN THAT I'M THINKING IN GLO SHOES, WHY WOULD I, WELL WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH GLO THAN THAT.
'CAUSE WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH 'EM AND EXPLAIN THIS IS THE SITUATION.
OURS IS JUST 'CAUSE WE BENEFIT FROM THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S NOT THAT THAT I'M GIVING MONEY TOLU JUST TO GIVE MONEY TOLU.
IT'S, WE BENEFIT FROM THAT YES.
WE ARE GETTING BENEFIT FROM THAT.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WILLING TO, I'M NOT TO THE WAY, THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE ALL THE WAY OUGHT TO BE SOLD TO GLO IS IS THAT, THAT'S A MUTUAL PROJECT.
AND THAT THE FUNDING WOULD BE SPREAD FROM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT POTS.
POTS ONE IS A MID MOD HARVEY PROJECT.
THEIRS IS A NORMAL GLO PROJECT AND THEY MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, CO PEANUT.
I MEAN I THINK IT'S WORTH A TRY, BUT I, I'LL GO, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO UH, GET AN ANSWER TO THAT BEFORE ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA AGREE TO IT.
WE HAVE THE QUESTION OUR PER OUR CONTACT PERSON WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK, SO WE DON'T HAVE AN AN I WAS HOPING WE WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER BY TONIGHT AND WE DON'T.
NO, I'LL DO GO AND DO THE WALK ANYWAY SO WE OH NO, DEFINITELY.
SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE NO TWIST ABOUT THAT AND THEN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THIS MONEY CAN BE USED OR NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, ALRIGHT.
SO PRESS FORWARD WITH THE, OKAY.
VINAY ASKING AND TRYING TO GET, UH, TWO MORE PEOPLE TO AGREE AND THEN WE'LL GET A DEFINITIVE ANSWER RIGHT.
AND MY HOPE, MY WHOLE CONCERN WITH THE MITIGATION, UH, PROJECT IS, IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SITTING ON HGAC AND THE PRESSURES THAT HOUSTON AND HARRIS COUNTY HAS CONTINUED TO PUT ON HEAC AND THE GLO AND ALL THE LAWSUITS THEY'VE PUT TOWARD HUD TRYING TO GET MORE DOLLARS IS THEY'RE GONNA SNATCH UP ANY DOLLARS THEY CAN.
SO I I I WISH THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN ALWAYS CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT AWAY FROM US.
AND SO, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
[7. Discuss and consider the H-GAC Livable Centers grant application and match requirements. – Modesto Mundo]
DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER HGAC, UH, LIVABLE CENTERS GRANT, APPLICATION AND MATCH REQUIREMENTS.MODESTO, UH, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO BRING UP ON THIS ONE WAS WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE SURVEY OR LISA, IS I PRESENTED IT AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, DISCOVERED THEY'VE CLARIFIED, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS AN 80 20 MATCH WHERE 80% WE GET, RECEIVE 80% OF THE GRANT.
OUR SHARE, WHICH WE ESTIMATED AT THE TIME WAS 75,000.
WE TOLD COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, OUR ESTIMATE WOULD BE 75,000 AS A MATCH.
WE GO, WHAT THEY'VE TOLD US IS THE GRANT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, THEY STILL REQUIRE A 20% MATCH.
SO WE WOULD STILL BE OUT OF THEY BEING H-G-A-C-H-J-C, UH, OUT OF POCKET OF 75,000.
BUT THEY NOW, UH, MARKET IT AS IT'S REALLY KIND OF A CONTRIBUTION OR A FEE THAT THEN GOES TO THE HC REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION STRATEGIC FUND.
THAT'S UP FOR THEM TO USE FOR OTHER PROJECT.
AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT EVEN THOUGH OUR OUT OF POCKET IS STILL THE SAME AS WE HAVE PUT INTO THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE CIP, IT'S NOT A MATCH THAT STAYS HERE.
IT GOES TO A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THEM TO LATER DISTRIBUTE.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WERE CLEAR.
I SHERRY'S LOOKED AT IT, IT IS LEGAL.
IT, IT'S UP TO COUNSEL BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE MONEY AWAY 'CAUSE IT'S TAX MONEY.
WELL, THE 75% WE WOULD BE, I MEAN IT WOULD COME HERE 'CAUSE WE WOULD BE SPENDING IT HERE 'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR MATCH.
AND MAINLY FORCED LABOR AND STUFF.
FORCED ACCOUNT LABOR, NOT FORCED LABOR.
AND UM, BUT NOW YOU'RE TAKING THAT 75 AND YOU'RE GIVING IT TO THIS FUND WE'RE NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR.
AND THEY'VE GOT, AND THEY NEED THE FUND, THEY'VE GOT PLANS FOR IT, BUT IT DOESN'T COME BACK HERE.
AND SO UNDER THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, YOU ALL HAVE TO DECIDE IF THAT MEETS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE TEST AND IT'S QUESTIONABLE THAT THEY'RE WRONG IF, IF IT DOES.
AND I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO, I'VE MADE A CALL INTO, UM, THE CEO AND STUFF OF HCAC AND WE HAVEN'T CONNECTED UP YET, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT IT.
WHAT I HEARD ABOUT THIS IS REALLY MADE MY STOMACH TURN BECAUSE I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT.
UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE TAKING TEXT DOLLARS THAT, UH, AGAIN, IF WE WOULD'VE DONE THE, OUR 20% TO DO THE PROJECT,
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AND SO WE WOULD SPEND OUR $75,000 TO FINISH THE PROJECT, TAKE OUR TAX DOLLARS AND PUT IT INTO OUR PROJECT.WHERE HERE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE SEND $75,000 TO GO INTO A FUND THAT'S USED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
TO ME THAT'S A ROBIN HOOD PLAN, UH, TYPE DEAL.
AND SO I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT.
AND UH, IT GOES BACK TO THE, UM, TPC, RIGHT? THE TEXAS YES.
I MEAN THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY POLICY, WHICH WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE, HAVE A MEMBER ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE THEY RESTRICTED, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ASKED AND, UM, WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT BIG ENOUGH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO BE BE BE ON THAT BOARD.
AND I JUST, I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM SENDING $75,000 FOR BASICALLY HARRIS COUNTY AND HOUSTON TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO WITH IT, TAKING ENTIRE TAX DOLLARS AND DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO WITH IT.
I JUST, I'M, IT JUST, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL.
AND I, I JUST, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN LEGALLY DO IT, IT JUST, IT, I JUST THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND YEAH, IT'S GONNA, CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL, IF WE WANNA DO THIS PROJECT, WE'LL FIND ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.
UH, THIS GRANT IS JUST NOT A GOOD GRANT FOR US TO DO IT.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND WE WILL GET WITH KIMLEY HORN AND NOT PURSUE, WE WILL NOT PUT IT IN OUR FINAL APPLICATION.
[8. New Business Updates. – David Walton]
SO WE GO TO, UH, NEW BUSINESS UPDATES DAY DAY.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MR. MILFORD, YOU'LL BE MISSED.
THERE ISN'T EVERYBODY KNOWS YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GOTTA SIT, TALK ABOUT LATER.
SO THERE'S A, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING NEWER GROUNDBREAKING ON THIS.
ALL OF OUR PROJECTS SEEM TO BE GOING PRETTY SMOOTH.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF BITTERSWEET THAT THERE'S NOTHING NEW.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE ENJOY NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THEY BRING VALUABLE, VALUABLE REVENUE.
BUT, UH, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING GOING ON? YES, I DO.
SO WE, THERE WAS ON THE LIST HERE THAT IT DROPPED OFF POLY POP MOVING TO, UH, DON DON POP.
SO, SO MS. ROBINSON DID PURCHASE THAT BUILDING, BUT SHE HAS PUT, UH, ACCORDING, UH, LAST WE HAD CHECKED WITH HER, SHE HAS PUT HER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ON HOLD BECAUSE SHE HAD ANOTHER CONCEPT GOING IN THE OLD LAUNDROMAT RIGHT.
SO SHE, UH, HAD SOME, SOME LARGE AMBITIONS AND MAYBE THE, THE TIMING JUST ISN'T COMING.
THEY BOUGHT THE, UH, HOOKS RESTAURANT IN FREEPORT.
SO THAT'S, WHENEVER THEY BOUGHT THAT THING SLOWED DOWN.
NOW HER OTHER BUSINESSES ARE GOING ALONG.
GREAT POLY POPS IN ITS CURRENT LOCATIONS IS IS ALWAYS FULL.
DIRTY SOUTH UP IN ANGLETON IS, I MEAN, SHE HAS GREAT THINGS GOING ON AND I EXPECT HER TO, TO MAKE, TO MAKE SOME MOVES WHEN THE TIME'S RIGHT FOR HER IN HER BUSINESS LOT.
A LOT OF CLIENTS HAVE IN THE COURTHOUSE THAT MM-HMM.
COLETTE JACKSON AND BELL FURNITURE IS MOVING INTO THE EMPTY SPACE OVER, UM, NEAR THE MOVIE THEATER BELL.
I HAD, UH, THEY HAD SOME CONVERSATION AND SO I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, I MEAN, THE WAY IT WAS BEING, UH, PRESENTED WAS IS THAT THE FURNITURE WAS GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF FURNITURE BUILDING FURNITURE AS IN BUILDING FURNITURE MANUFACTURING.
THAT'S NOT YOUR MANUFACTURING, THAT'S NOT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR OPERATION IS.
NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, IT'S GONNA BE A SHOW STORE, IS THAT THE RETAIL PORTION IS MOVING FROM, FROM CLU ON DIXIE, WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS OVER TO THE MALL.
IT'S KIND OF, IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME THAT IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, UH, BECAUSE IF THESE WERE THE PIECES COME TOGETHER AND THEY, THE PIECES COME IN AND THEY PUT IT TOGETHER AND THEY PUT IT ON A SHOWROOM SHOWROOM.
SO LIKE IKEA, LIKE JACKSON IKEA.
SO IF, IF THAT WERE, IF IT WAS AN ASSEMBLY CENTER, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, TREATED IT DIFFERENTLY DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.
IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY MANUFACTURING FURNITURE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UH, REVIEW PROCESS.
WHAT ABOUT CAVENDER CA IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE IN FRONT OF THE MALL, YOU'LL SEE SCAFFOLDING UP, YOU'LL SEE THE FRONT OF THAT.
THAT COVERED OVER FALLS RESPONSIBILITY TO UPGRADE THE'S CAVENDER HAVING TO DO ALL THIS.
WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE CONTRACTED BETWEEN THE MUL AND CAVENDERS AS TO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR WHICH PORTIONS OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
NO, I KNOW WE DON'T, BUT I JUST WONDERING WHO HAD TO PAY FOR YEAH, NO, IT'S NOT.
AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN
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THE MUL AND CAVENDERS.[9. Staff Updates]
OKAY.THAT'S WHAT'S YOUR SHOW? UM, I WANTED TO, UH, GET YOUR KLEENEXES OUT.
ANNOUNCED THAT, UH, MILFORD HAS TENDERED HIS RESIGNATION.
OR I GUESS WHERE YOU GOING?
DID HE HAVE TO, UM, FULTON, GEORGIA.
UH, DID HE SWIPE LEFT OR RIGHT ON US?
HE HAS PICKED ANOTHER, HE HAS PICKED ANOTHER ORGANIZATION.
UH, MILFORD'S LAST DAY IS, UH, IT'S THE, UM, TODAY
BUT, UH, I'LL BE, I HAVE A VERY ILL TIMED TRIP AFTER, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR LJDC ON THURSDAY, SO I WILL NOT BE HERE ON FRIDAY.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S GOING TO A VERY NICE, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
IS IT CLOSE TO HOME? IT IS CLOSER.
IS IT A BIKE? RIDEABLE CITY WHERE YOU'RE GOING? UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE.
SO MILFORD DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO GET OUT OF HIS HOUSE.
OH, THAT'S MOST OF THE DAYS OF THE WEEK TO GO TO WORK WHERE SO IT WILL BE WHAT BRAVE STADIUM.
UH, I WILL NOT BE WORKING FOR COBB COUNTY WHERE THE BRAVE STADIUM IS AT.
UM, THEY MOVED AWAY FROM HOW CLOSE ARE YOU? HOW CLOSE? ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SO AS THE CITY MANAGER NOTED, UH, IT IS A WONDERFUL HYBRID POSITION THAT, UH, WAS TOO GOOD TO PASS UP ON.
UM, UH, A LOT OF TURN OF EVENTS HAPPENED WITH MY FIANCE THAT MADE IT, UH, AVAILABLE FOR ME TO LOOK OUTSIDE, UH, NOT ONLY THE AUSTIN AREA, BUT THE STATE, UH, TO SEE WHERE OUR FUTURE WOULD BE TOGETHER.
SO SHE WILL BE JOINING ME IN JULY, UM, AND SHE WILL U GLADLY USE HER DIAMOND STATUS OF DELTA TO FLY ANYWHERE SHE WANTS IN THE WORLD AND POSSIBLY DRAG ME ON SOME OF THOSE.
SO, UM, BUT, UH, IN THE MEANTIME IT, I IT HAS DEFINITELY BEEN WONDERFUL BEING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO LONG BEFORE I GET AN ALLERGY, UM, REACTION IN MY EYES.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF YOU PERSONALLY.
I HAVE ACTUALLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE NOT ON STAFF, UM, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW QUITE WELL OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.
AND I'VE APPRECIATED, UM, JUST THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE.
UM, THIS IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY, UM, THAT HAS WELCOMED ME WITH OPEN ARMS AND AS I CAME HERE IN A VERY VULNERABLE STATE, AND I'M FOREVER GRATEFUL.
AND, UM, THE PASSION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND THE LOVE THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY IS SO WONDERFUL TO SEE.
AND I MEAN THAT GENUINELY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
I, I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE TIME OUT TO EARNESTLY THANK OUR CITY MANAGER WHO HAPPENS TO BE MY DIRECT SUPERVISOR.
UM, THANK YOU MR. MUNDO, UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE IN HELPING ME THESE PAST THREE YEARS, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, UM, UH, I DEFINITELY AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE MOMENTS HERE AND THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS.
AND YOU, YOU'LL STILL BE HEARING FROM ME TIME TO TIME, AND I SAY THAT NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A NICE THING TO SAY.
YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY HUMAN TOUCH.
I ACTUALLY STARTED MY CAREER AFTER GRAD SCHOOL WORKING FOR ATHENS, CLARK COUNTY, GEORGIA.
SO, UM, I'M GOING BACK NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHERE MY OLD STOMPING GROUNDS ARE AT.
AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE FORMER COWORKERS WHO ARE ASKING ME TO GO TO BRAVES GAMES WITH THEM.
AND THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF I KEPT THE RELATIONSHIPS OPEN OVER THE PAST DECADE SINCE I'VE LEFT.
AND I, I HOPE TO DO THE SAME WITH, WITH YOU GUYS TOO.
WELL, I HOPE LAURA MARIE HAS, UH, TIED YOU INTO CONTINUE TO BE THE VOICE OF LAKE JACKSON.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY, WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING, UM, SO YOU'RE VIRTUAL NOW? YEAH.
UH, LAURA MARIE, UM, WILL HAVE A NEW HOST FOR A TALK WAY LAKE JACKSON.
THAT IS NOT, UH, MY WAY OF SAYING THAT IF SHE DOESN'T WANT ME FOR A GUEST APPEARANCE HERE OR THERE, I CAN'T DO IT.
UM, UH, SHE ALSO REALLY WANTS TO DO A, UM, PODCAST WITH ME, JUST US TWO.
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I KNOW SHE'S NOT HERE.HOPEFULLY SHE WINS SOME AWARDS 'CAUSE SHE DESERVES AS TALENTED AS SHE IS.
BUT, UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SEEN ME WORK KNOW THAT WE HAVE QUITE A DYNAMIC AND THAT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE EVEN IN MY PHYSICAL ABSENCE FROM THERE.
THIS AFTERNOON, LAURA MARIE WAS LOOKING TO SEE HOW CLOSE THE JUSTICE OFFICE WAS, UH, IN FULTON COUNTY.
SO, UM, MILFORD COULD GET A MARRIAGE LICENSE VERY QUICK.
WHAT? IN THE FRONT? DRIVING DOWN TOO.
OH, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT IS I THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
WE USED TO RACE, LITERALLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE CONTINUED MEMORIES IS JUST RIDING DOWN JB STREET AND WAVING TO HIM.
AND, UH, HE'S GOT SOME NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET THAT I HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO IN PERSON, BUT THEY ALWAYS WAVE, THEY'RE ALWAYS HANGING OUT ON THEIR PORCH AND IT'S WONDERFUL.
IT'S LIKE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY BETTER.
AND YES, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I HAVE BEATEN JB HOME FROM COUNCIL ON MY BICYCLE.
BUT WE STARTED, I STARTED RACING HOME AND GET THE NEIGHBOR TO SEE YOU COME DOWN WHEN WE WAVED AT YOU.
BUT WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU WERE GONNA LEAVE, I WENT HOME AND I TOLD PATTY, I SAID, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MILFORD, UH, RIDING HIS BICYCLE.
SHE SAYS, WHAT'S HAPPENING? YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER, I SAID, HE'S MOVING TO GEORGIA.
AND SHE SAID, WELL, NOW I GOTTA WORRY ABOUT HIM RIDING A BICYCLE IN GEORGIA.
WELL, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EXCITED ME ABOUT FULTON COUNTY THERE, FULTON COUNTY IS A BIG COUNTY AND IT HAS A LOT OF GREAT THINGS.
UH, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK LAST FRIDAY, UH, GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED HAD I ALREADY STARTED THAT JOB.
BUT, UM, UH, THE, THE BELTLINE IN ATLANTA IS, UM, A PROJECT THERE THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONCEIVED BY A THEN GRAD STUDENT AT GEORGIA TECH, BUT IT WAS TO CONVERT AN OLD, UH, RAIL LINE AROUND.
THE CITY, UM, INTO A LARGE MULTI-USE USE PATH.
UM, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO CONNECT AROUND 20 NEIGHBORHOODS OR SO WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE, UM, AROUND SOME PORTIONS OF THE BELTLINE.
SELFISHLY, I'D LIKE TO GUIDE A HOUSE ON THE NOT AS DEVELOPED PORTIONS OF THE BELTLINE AND RIDE LET IT RIDE.
BUT, UM, THEY WANT TO GET THAT FINISHED, UH, AT LEAST THE PATH FINISHED IN TIME FOR THE 2026 WORLD CUP, WHICH I'M ALSO EXCITED AS A SOCCER FAN THAT ATLANTA WILL BE HOSTING SEVEN WORLD CUP MATCHES, INCLUDING ONE OF THE SEMIFINALS AND ALSO HOSTING THE VERY FIRST COPA AMERICA MATCH.
MY FIRST WEEK ON THE JOB WHERE LEO NELL MESSI IN ARGENTINA WILL BE PLAYING CANADA.
NOW I WILL BE SPENDING ALL OF THE MONEY TO BREED THE SAME AIR AS HIM.
BUT YES, AS EXCITED I AM FOR ALL OF THAT.
I HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN THE NEXT WEEK.
IN TERMS OF FINDING A PLACE TO LIVE, IN TERMS OF PACKING UP STUFF, IN TERMS OF SELLING THINGS, DONATING THINGS, UH, STILL DOING MY JOB HERE, STILL TRYING TO PREPARE FOR MY NEXT JOB.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT WILL BE BITTERSWEET.
I'VE, I'VE TRULY ENJOYED MY TIME HERE.
THANKS FOR WALKING WITH ME, MILFORD.
LIKE, WE HAD A GREAT, WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS.
WE, UM, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO SEE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, SEE YOUR PASSION, AND, AND I'VE SEEN ALL OF THE PASSION THAT, THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE BEYOND COUNCIL.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
AND TO HAVE THE ACCESSIBILITY TO TALK TO YOU.
LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GET IN, IN MANY COMMUNITIES.
ANYTHING ELSE MEDICINAL ON THE, NO, SIR.
SO THE ACTIONS YOU HAVE IS, UH, BRINGING BACK, UH, UH, WE ARE FORMING A HEALTH INSURANCE COMMITTEE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, UH, MS. SETH AND HANYA, MR. HANYA, UH, THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION POLICY.
WE WILL COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, WE'LL HAVE ALSO, WE'LL SEND YOU OUT, UH, ENGINEERING WILL SEND OUT A BREAKDOWN OF PANELS WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT FOR THE PANEL BID.
WE WILL ALSO, UM, COMPLETE THE SURVEY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO GET TWO MORE HOMES OUT THERE AND WE WILL GET A GLO ANSWER AND WE'LL BE CONTACTING KIMBERLY HORN AND TO, UH, NOT SUBMIT OUR GRANT FOR THE HCC LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.
[10. Construction Updates]
HIGHLIGHTS AT YOUR MERCY.ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON PROJECTS? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE PROJECTS? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.
AL'S IN CHARGE?
SO WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
INTEREST.UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, MR. BUELL.
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NOTHING, MR. HANYA? NOTHING SIR.ALL RIGHT, MR. BROADUS? NO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING EITHER.
WE GOT, UH, MS. SETH KEEP LAKE JACKSON BE BOWL.
IT'S GOT A CLEANUP SCHEDULED, UH, THIS COMING SATURDAY, JUNE 8TH, 8:00 AM MEETING OVER IN FRONT OF YOSHI AND EVERYTHING YOU NEED WAS PROVIDED.
MR. BAKER, SCHOOL OUT SUMMERTIME.
PLENTY OF TIME AT THE RACE CENTER.
JUST FOR ME, JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL AS BCCA IS ON THE 12TH, IT'S, WE'RE HOSTING IT, SO, UH, NEED TO HAVE A GOOD SHOWING THERE.
UH, LAURA MARIE IS THE, UH, SPEAKER AND SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND I'LL BE STEPPING DOWN AS PRESIDENT.
YEAH, WE ALREADY ELECTED THE OTHER PERSON IN.
IS IT THE 12TH MOVE JUST FOR THIS ONE MONTH? YEAH, JUST FOR THIS ONE.
JUST FOR THIS BECAUSE IT, YEAH, IT, UH, IT FELL ON, UH, JUNETEENTH.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, I HAVE TO REMIND ALL OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT WE DO HAVE JUNETEENTH OFF, UH, THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THAT NEW HOLIDAY.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF AFTERWARDS? NO.