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          MAKE IT SOON WE'LL BE ABLE TO JUST LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND IT WILL FOLLOW YOUR EYEBALLS. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE 
          [Call to Order ]
GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. 
          THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, MONDAY, JULY 1ST, 2024 REGULAR SESSION OF LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UH, AND IT IS BEING HELD AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS. 
          AND, UH, WE WILL BEGIN MEETING WITH, UH, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, LED BY COUNCILMAN ELL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          AND TWO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, JUSTICE, HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, A PLEDGE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL JOIN YOU. 
          JOIN ME IN INVOCATION. 
          HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON EACH OF US. 
          FATHER, WE, WE, UH, THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR SERVICE, MEN AND WOMEN, AND OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA EFFORT TO MAKE, KEEP THEM SAFE DURING THIS EXTREMELY WARM HOT WEATHER THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR WORK IN. 
          ALSO, I SAW COMING IN THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS DISPATCHED AT FIVE 30 THIS MO THIS AF THIS EVENING. 
          SO PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OVER THEM. 
          UH, FATHER, PLEASE GIVE THIS COUNCIL THE WIND THEM GUIDANCE AND COURAGE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IN YOUR NAME, WE OFFER UP THIS PRAYER TO YOU. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GUESTS THAT WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, VISITORS' COMMENTS. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, WHERE VISITORS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON EITHER ONE OF THE AGENDAS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY VISITORS THAT HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          UH, THIS IS WHERE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDAS. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONFLICT THEY NEED TO DECLARE? YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE 
          [CONSENT AGENDA ]
ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT A REQUEST TO, FROM A VISITOR TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO. 
          SO I'M GONNA PULL THAT TO REGULAR AGENDA. 
          SO, FOR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE, UM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JUNE 17TH, 2024. 
          AND THEN ITEM THREE IS APPROVE THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION'S, UH, PROPOSED SPEED HUNT POLICY, UH, TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC CALMING MANUAL. 
          I HAVE A REQUEST TO REMOVE ANY OTHER ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. 
          AND, UH, IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE ITEMS. ONE THREE ON CONSENT AGENDA, MOVE FOR APPROVAL, CONSENT ACT, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND THREE. 
          ALRIGHT, HAVE A MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN BAKER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO THIS 
          [2. Approve facility use agreement with ActionS for using the Heritage Room at the Civic Center from 8 am – 12 pm commencing July 1, 2024, with an option for annual renewal. ]
ITEM TO THIS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA AND IT'S APPROVED FACILITY. 
          UH, USE AGREEMENT WITH ACTIONS, UH, FOR USING THE HERITAGE ROOM AT THE CIVIC CENTER FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 PM COMMENCING, UH, JULY 1ST, 2024, WITH AN OPTION FOR ANNUAL REVIEW. 
          AND MS. NAT, GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNSEL, MY NAME IS BRIA OPPE. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR ACTIONS INC. 
          OF BRAZORIA COUNTY. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON FOR THE DECADES LONG PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD SERVING SENIOR CITIZENS HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW THAT OUR USAGE AGREEMENT IS UP FOR RENEWAL AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD TO THIS POINT AND LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS OF SERVING THE SENIORS HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. 
          UH, WHICH IS ITEM, IT WAS LISTED AS ITEM TWO ON THE MR. MAHER. 
          I MOVED THAT WE APPROVED FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH ACTIONS FOR USING THE HERITAGE ROOM AT THE CIVIC CENTER FROM 8:00 AM TO 12 NOON COMMENCE IN JULY 1ST, 2024 WITH THE OPTION OF ANNUAL RENEWABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE I MAKE A SECOND, UH, SECOND. 
          YEAH, FOR A SECOND. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU OUT OVER THERE? OR ANYTHING YOU NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE CITY? UH, ANYTHING FIRST, IF NOT, UH, OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE NO, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, WE'LL TAKE A 
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MOTION ON THE, I I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS WAITING FOR THE SECOND SO I CAN ASK THE QUESTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IN THE PAST WE HAD SUPPORTED ACTIONS, UH, WITH SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT, UH, RECENTLY A COUPLE YEARS BACK WE QUIT DOING THAT. 
          SO ANYBODY CAN FILL ME ON THAT. 
          WHAT IS THAT? UH, PROVIDING, UH, LUNCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IS THAT, NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MUST BE MISTAKEN THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, NO QUESTIONS THEN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL, UH, WE'VE GOT A MOTION A SECOND. 
          I'LL TAKE A VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL 
          [1. Discuss and consider whether the city would be open to beginning the process of granting a special use permit for a Battery Energy Storage System (BESS). – Casey Keller (Part 1 of 2) ]
GO TO ITEM ONE ON A REGULAR AGENDA. 
          DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER THE CITY, UH, WOULD BE OPEN TO BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF GRANTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS OR BEST. 
          AND IS, IS MS. KELLER HERE? NO. 
          NOPE. 
          WE DID SEE A, I DID RECEIVE A CONFIRMATION EMAIL. 
          THIS AF LATE THIS AFTERNOON SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE HERE. 
          SO MAYBE SHE'S RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL UH, WE'LL LEAVE THIS ONE. 
          AND IF THEY, IF SHE ARRIVES WE'LL AND WE'RE STILL IN SESSION, WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH HER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'LL MOVE 
          [2. Annual Health Inspection Report. – Eric Wilson/Leslie Cancino ]
ON TO, UH, ITEM TWO, UH, ANNUAL HEALTH INSPECTION REPORT. 
          ERIC AND LESLIE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, LETTING ME JOIN YOU TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATE OF THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING OUR INVITATION, . 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, A BRIEF HISTORY ON THE PROGRAM AND LEMME SEE. 
          OKAY, THERE WE GO. 
          UH, BACK IN JUNE OF 20, THERE WAS A STAFFING CHANGE AT THE HEALTH INSPECTOR POSITION. 
          UH, IRENE RETIRED AND LESLIE TOOK OVER THAT POSITION. 
          AND IN APRIL OF 2021, UH, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION AND THAT IS WHEN CITY ACTUALLY STARTED DOING TWICE A YEAR INSPECTIONS AT COUNCIL REQUEST OF FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND DID AN UPDATE AGAIN IN NOVEMBER OF 21. 
          DECEMBER OF 21. 
          UH, THE CITY APPROVED THE NEW, UH, POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH HEALTH FOOD ESTABLISHMENT INSPECTIONS THAT IN FORMALIZED THE TWICE ANNUALLY INSPECTIONS. 
          IT ALSO ESTABLISHED A, UH, MORE A HEAVIER INSPECTION FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNDERPERFORMING IN THE HEALTH STANDARDS IN THEIR INSPECTIONS. 
          UH, OCTOBER OF 22, WE HAD A COMPLETE UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, UH, INSPECTIONS. 
          AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 23, THAT WAS UPDATED A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          UH, THE TWO MAIN GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROGRAM, OUR, THE TEXAS FOOD ESTABLISHMENT RULES, UH, THAT IS SET FORTH BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ITS GUIDANCE FOR MUNICIPALITIES, UH, IN THEIR INSPECTION PROGRAMS. AND NEXT TO THAT, YOU CAN SEE THE POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH OUR, UH, INSPECTION PROGRAM GOING BACK TO 2020. 
          UH, THIS IS OUR INSPECTION, UH, PERFORMANCE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE EXCELLENT IS GREEN, BLUE IS GOOD AND THE ORANGE IS SATISFACTORY. 
          SATISFACTORY. 
          UH, THE AVERAGE OF ALL INSPECTIONS THROUGH THIS POINT FOR EXCELLENT IS 86.3% OF OUR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE SCORED IN THE EXCELLENT RANGE. 
          UH, 12% HAVE BEEN IN THE GOOD AND 1.7 HAVE BEEN IN THE SATISFACTORY RANGE. 
          AND THE POLICY THAT WAS PASSED ESTABLISHED A SCORE. 
          IF YOU SCORE UNDER A 78, WHICH IS AT THE TOP END OF THE SATISFACTORY RANGE, YOU ARE TRIGGERED FOR REINSPECTION AFTER THREE MONTHS. 
          AND TO DATE, WE HAVE ONLY HAD ONE ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS FALLEN IN THAT SCORE. 
          AND THAT WAS IN THESE RECENT MONTHS. 
          WE CAN'T MENTION A NAME, BUT THEY WILL BE REINSPECTED HERE SHORTLY. 
          UH, ALSO THE, THE TOTAL INSPECTIONS THAT TWICE A YEAR WERE RUNNING BETWEEN 230 AND 260 INSPECTIONS ANNUALLY. 
          UH, AND JUST 
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COMBINING THOSE NUMBERS, UH, YOU, YOU CAN COME UP TO THOSE. 
          SO, CAN I ASK QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE LAST YEAR THIS ONE ESTABLISHMENT IN THE OYSTER CREEK SHOPPING CENTER WAS SHUT DOWN SEVERAL TIMES DURING NONS SANITARY CONDITIONS. 
          SO I DON'T SEE THAT DATA HERE, SO, OKAY. 
          AND, AND THERE IS A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          UH, AND IF I CONTINUE IN MY PRESENTATION, THE LAST LEMME KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK QUESTION THE LAST, THE WELL, THE LAST SLIDE SHOWS THE TRIGGERS FOR INSTANT CLOSURE FOR NONS SANITARY, AND I DID NOT INCLUDE OUR INSPECTION FORM, BUT THAT INSPECTION FORM GIVES YOU THE POINTS THAT ARE A DEDUCT. 
          AND WHEN WE GET TO THOSE PICTURES, I'LL EXPLAIN THE POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE THREE PICTURES THAT I'VE PUT UP ON THAT. 
          BUT ERIC, REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, DO, DO THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDE FOOD TRUCKS OR NO? IS THAT SEPARATE? NO, THAT IS SEPARATE BRICK AND MORTAR. 
          OKAY. 
          BRICK AND MORTAR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND HERE ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS OF CLOSURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIME. 
          UH, 21 OF COURSE WAS WHEN WE STARTED DOING TWO INSPECTIONS PER YEAR. 
          THOSE, UH, THAT WERE CLOSED IN, THAT WERE ALL CLOSED ON THE SECOND INSPECTION, WHICH SHOWS THAT THE FOLKS WERE NOT READY TO BE INSPECTED AGAIN. 
          AND THEY WERE SOMEWHAT SURPRISED WHEN WE SHOWED UP A SECOND TIME. 
          WE DID HAVE SEVEN CLOSURES ON COMPLAINTS THAT YEAR. 
          UH, 2000, UH, 22. 
          THOSE FIVE WERE ALL FOUND, UH, ON INSPECTION, TWO ON COMPLAINTS THE SAME FOR 23. 
          THIS YEAR WE HAVE HAD SEVEN CLOSED, UH, FIVE WERE CLOSED ON INSPECTION. 
          THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE CLOSED BECAUSE THERE WAS A SANITARY SEWER PROBLEM BEHIND TWO ESTABLISHMENTS AT THE MALL. 
          THEY WERE OPERATING WELL WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW AND DOING WHAT THEY NEEDED TO. 
          BUT THERE WAS A SANITARY SEWER ISSUE THAT FORCED THE CLOSURE OF TWO, TWO FACILITIES. 
          AND FROM A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PERSPECTIVE, IN THE CENTER, YOU HAVE THE FORM THAT THE CITY ISSUES AFTER DOING AN INSPECTION. 
          THE BOX ON THE LOWER RIGHT, UH, THE SCORE IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THAT BOX AND THAT IS A DISPLAYED IN PUBLIC VIEW. 
          UH, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS FROM THE FAXES WEBSITE. 
          AND THEY DO HAVE AN ELECTRONIC VERSION OF OUR INSPECTION REPORT MONTHLY. 
          UH, THEY ACTUALLY CALLED AND ASKED FOR THEIR COPY TODAY, AND I LOOKED FOR IT ONLINE FOR THE PRINT VERSION. 
          AND WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE YOUNG LADY OVER THERE, SHE STATED THAT THEY PUBLISH IT WHEN THEY HAVE SPACE TO PRINT IT. 
          THAT, WHAT WAS IT? MAY OR MAY 29TH ON IN PAGE FOUR B AND MARCH 13TH IN SECTION PAGE FOUR, SECTION B, IT WAS ALSO PUBLISHED. 
          SO THEY DON'T PUBLISH IT ON A REGULAR DATE, BUT IT IS, ALL OF THE INSPECTION REPORTS ARE PUBLISHED ON THE FACTS. 
          AND HERE WE HAVE THREE PICTURES OF EXAMPLES OF INSTANT CLOSURE. 
          THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS GERMAN COCKROACHES. 
          UH, THOSE ARE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. 
          BUT ON THE INSPECTION FORM, AGAIN, THIS TIES BACK TO THE STATE'S RECOMMENDATION ON SCORING. 
          THAT IS A ONE POINT DEDUCT. 
          SO BASICALLY I CAN HAVE A FACILITY THAT SCORES 99 AND HAVE ROACHES AND I GET CLOSED WITH A 99 SCORE. 
          SO IT'S DONE OFF OF STATE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE SCORING CRITERIA. 
          UH, GREASE ACCUMULATION, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE CENTER PICTURE. 
          ALSO A ONE POINT DEDUCTION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WE HAVE, UH, UNSANITARY CONDITION THAT IS WATER STANDING AND YEAH. 
          JUST NOT A GOOD THING. 
          THAT IS A TWO POINT DEDUCTION ON THE SCORING CRITERIA, BUT IT IS A GROSS NEGLIGENCE FROM A HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDPOINT RESULTING IN A YEAR CLOSED RIGHT NOW. 
          CLEAN IT UP. 
          I'LL COME BACK TOMORROW OR IN A COUPLE OF HOURS WHEN YOU CAN GET THIS ITEM ADDRESSED. 
          SO THE WATER ON THE FLOOR IS WORSE THAN THE ROACH. 
          THAT WATER ON THE RO WATER ON THE FLOOR IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM, UH, THE SEWER. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THAT'S ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S CROSS-CONTAMINATED. 
          YOU'RE WALKING IN IT. 
          THAT'S, YES, THAT, THAT 
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ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. 
          CARRYING IT ALL OVER THE RESTAURANT. 
          YES. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO, SO MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW GOT QUANTITY HERE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF INSPECTIONS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR LIST OF NUMBER OF ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          THIS HAS CHANGED, GROWN SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE YEARS FROM FIRST DATA I WAS COLLECTING IN 2021 TO NOW WE HAVE HEB, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE, WERE NOT THERE BEFORE, UH, PROVIDING PREPARING FOOD THERE. 
          SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF INSPECTIONS GOING ON. 
          SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO HANDLE, UH, DOING A PROPER INFECT UH, INSPECTION. 
          SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          NOT, UH, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYTHING. 
          I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE, UH, TIME FOR EACH PERSON WHO'S DOING THE INSPECTION. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T INCREASED THE STAFF. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IF WE HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED THE ESTABLISHMENTS WE ARE INSPECTING NOW. 
          SO PER INSPECTION, HOW MUCH TIME DOES A PERSON TAKE TO DO INSPECTION PER INSPECTION? I DO NOT KNOW THAT PER TYPE OF INSPECTION. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE, THE REASON I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION, MR. MUNDO AND MAYOR, IS I WANNA MAKE SURE BUDGET TIME IS COMING UP. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDING PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS, HAVING PROVIDING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THE INSPECTIONS. 
          WE WANT TO BE CENTRALLY, UH, HELP FOR PEOPLE TO COME EAT IN LAKE JACKSON. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING SANITARY CONDITIONS AND PROPER INSPECTIONS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT, THAT, I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I DID NOT GET THE INTENT OF THE UPDATE. 
          NOW THAT I HAVE THAT I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT IF POSSIBLE, UH, WE COULD PUT THIS ON ANOTHER AGENDA WHERE I CAN COME BACK AND SPECIFICALLY THAT'S ALLY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M PERSONALLY INTERESTED IN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE INSPECTION STAFF TO ESTABLISH INSPECTION. 
          ALL THESE, UH, FOOD TRUCKS COMING IN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, YOU KNOW, FOOD COURT AND ALL THESE OTHER, UM, EPI ESTABLISHMENT. 
          IT IS NOT JUST RESTAURANTS, IT'S, IT'S THE GROCERY STORES AND ALL THESE PEOPLE SERVING FOODS AND HAVING STEAM TABLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I, I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY STAFF THAT WE WERE INSPECTING ALL FACILITIES AS REQUIRED BY OUR ORDINANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT I WANT TO GO BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO INSPECTIONS, IF WE FIND, IF WE DO 10 INSPECTIONS OF 20, A HUNDRED INSPECTIONS AND FIND TWO OF THEM IN SUCH A GROSS CONDITION THAT WE OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT DOING IT FREQUENTLY ENOUGH. 
          I KNOW THE STATE SAYS WE CAN ONLY DO MINIMUM OR WE DON'T HAVE TO DO MINIMUM. 
          WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING SICK BECAUSE OF EATING BAD FOOD. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR SOME REASON. 
          WE'RE ALREADY OVER THE MINIMUM. 
          THE MINIMUM IS ONCE PER YEAR. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND SO WE ARE PER ORDINANCE, WE'RE DOING TWICE PER YEAR, CORRECT? YES. 
          YES. 
          HAVE WE HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY BEING SICK? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT FACEBOOK, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIMES I SEE STUFF ON FACEBOOK RIGHT. 
          THAT A RESTAURANT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS NOT GOOD PUBLICITY FOR LAKE JACKSON. 
          AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. 
          AND RIGHT NOW IS, BUT WE HAVEN'T. 
          MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD HEALTH HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROBLEMS. NONE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, BROUGHT TO OUR, OUR KNOWLEDGE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. 
          BUT I HAD MR. MUNDO, IF I CAN ASK QUESTIONS, HE SAID YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I WELCOME THE QUESTIONS. 
          SO NO, NO APOLOGY NEEDED. 
          BUT, UH, I, SO AGAIN, WITH THE POLICIES AND ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE, AND I ASSUME IT'S PROBABLY AN INCREASE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND US ARE DOING, IS, UH, DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT, AND THIS IS THE QUESTION ALSO, LESLIE, IS, IS DO WE, IS THE ORDINANCE MEETING THE NEEDS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO ADD, DO WE NEED TO PUT MORE POWER BEHIND THE ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT? I BELIEVE WE'RE OUTPERFORMING THE COUNTY AND OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, THIS IS ANECDOTAL, BUT, BUT A LOT OF THE VENDORS, UH, FOOD TRUCKS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF PRICE, UH, WANT TO COME DOWN HERE. 
          BUT LESLIE IS THE TOUGHEST INSPECTOR IN THE COUNTY. 
          IF YOU KNOW, NO GAMES, IF SHE FINDS SOMETHING, YOU'RE CLOSED. 
          AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, WHETHER YOU'RE A FRIEND OR NOT, UH, WHEN, WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO INSPECT ME? SOON? WELL, WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING HER, HER, UH, YOU KNOW YEAH. 
          OUR PERFORMANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT I'M QUESTIONING, I GUESS MAKING SURE VOLUME THAT WE PROVIDE OUR STAFF ENOUGH TOOLS 
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AND ENOUGH TIME AND PERSONNEL TO DO THE JOB. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND NOT, NOT TO SAY THEY'RE NOT DOING THE JOB RIGHT. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE GROSS ERROR ON THE COUNCIL'S PART TO SHORTHAND THEM. 
          HAVE YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK FROM STAFF? I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH DAVID, UH, LOOKING AT INSPECTIONS TOTAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WITH, WITH THE LIMITED STAFFING THAT WE DO HAVE. 
          UH, THERE, THERE WATERS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INSPECTIONS TOTAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL INSPECTIONS, NOT JUST YES. 
          ALL INSPECTIONS. 
          NOT JUST HEALTH, BUT NOT, NOT JUST BUILDING. 
          BUILDING AND EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. 
          AND HE IS, WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IN DEPTH AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH AN UPDATE TO MR. MUNDO SHORTLY ON THAT. 
          AND SO MAYBE I DON'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, YOU'RE DOING BUILDING INSPECTIONS, YOU'RE DOING FOOD, TRUCK INSPECTIONS, RESTAURANTS, ALL THESE THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          APARTMENTS. 
          APARTMENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, IS DO WE HAVE, IS OUR STAFF CROSS-TRAINED? DO WE DO ANY KIND OF CROSS TRAINING? YOU KNOW? YES. 
          OR I MEAN, IF LESLIE GETS HIT BY THE PROVERBIAL BEER TRUCK TOMORROW, WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN STEP IN TO HELP. 
          WELL, THAT BEER TRUCK HITS ME FIRST THEN IT  IT'S MAKING AROUND. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT IT DOES INCREASE THE WORKLOAD ON OTHERS. 
          UM, AND WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE OUT WITH A PROLONGED ILLNESS OR VACATION, IT DOES MAKE IT AT TIMES VERY CHALLENGING. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, SO THE REALLY, THE JUST CLEAR ANSWER IS HAVE WE HAD FEEDBACK FROM STAFF SAYING THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE OVERBURDENED AT THIS TIME? NOT IN NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S KIND OF A NON-ANSWER. 
          YES. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YES, IT VACATION SICK. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IN THOSE SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A HEAVY INSPECTION DAY ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          EXACTLY. 
          UH, THEN IT BECOMES TAXING FOR THAT PERSON THAT'S COVERING BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          TWO QUESTIONS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, UH, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT? ARE YOU, UH, ON THE HEALTH STAFF? ON ON THE HEALTH SIDE? ONE. 
          JUST ONE, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHEN WE HAVE FESTIVALS COME TO TOWN, CAN YOU RUN THAT DOWN TO ME? HOW JOE? YES. 
          HOW, HOW HOW YOU GET INSPECT THOSE BEFORE THEY OPEN UP AND OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE I'M GONNA HAVE TO DEFER TO LESLIE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE NUTS AND BOLTS ON THAT. 
          . 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FESTIVALS LIKE THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS OR THE CIRCUSES OR, OR BOTH? ALL OF THEM. 
          ALL OF THEM. 
          ALL OF THEM. 
          SO AS FAR AS THOSE GO, WHENEVER THEY SET UP, I TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO GIVE ME THE DAY BEFORE THEY'RE OPERATING TO INSPECT BECAUSE MYSELF AND THE FIRE MARSHAL GO OUT AND REIN INSPECT THEM. 
          SO AT LEAST 24 HOURS TYPICALLY IS WHAT WE GIVE THEM, IS WHAT THEY GIVE US TO INSPECT THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED OR TAKEN AWAY, THEN THEY CAN DO. 
          SO HOW LONG DOES IT, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE, SAY WE HAVE 10 FOOD TRUCKS FOR A FESTIVAL OF FLIGHTS. 
          HOW LONG DOES THAT TYPICALLY TAKE YOU TO ACCOMPLISH SALARY? HOW MANY WE DO WE NORMALLY HAVE FOR THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS. 
          OH, ACTUALLY WE HAD LIKE 30. 
          WE HAD LIKE 30. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS WELL, AND YOU HAVE ONE DAY TO DO ALL THOSE, OR A LOT OF THEM ARE ALREADY INSPECT ARE JACKSON. 
          RIGHT. 
          OUR FOOD TRUCKS HAVE TO BE INSPECTED BEFORE OKAY. 
          BEFORE THEY CAN ATTEND THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS. 
          OKAY. 
          OR ANY OTHER EVENT THAT'S IN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF A FOOD TRUCK SHOWS UP UNANNOUNCED AND WANTS TO OPERATE, UH, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T. 
          SO NO, WE, WE SEND THEM HOME. 
          SAD BUT TRUE. 
          BUT IT'S NOT JUST MYSELF, IT'S THE FIRE MARSHAL TOO THAT HAS TO INSPECT THEM. 
          SO HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO INSPECT ONE FOOD TRUCK? EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT, 30, 45 MINUTES. 
          AND HOW MANY TIMES EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT? UH, TYPICALLY WITH OUR FOOD TRUCKS, MOST OF THE TIME, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          IF IT DOESN'T GO RIGHT, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR GAS PRESSURE TEST OR THEIR, UM, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS OUT OF DATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT THEY CAN GET DONE THE NEXT WEEK. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WILL. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          IN YOUR OPINION, ARE YOU SU SUFFICIENTLY STAFFED IN, UH, TO ACCOMP ACCOMPLISH DURING YOUR, ALL THE INSPECTIONS AS REQUIRED AT, AT YOUR SPACE SO YOU CAN, UH, GET EVERYTHING DONE? I WILL TELL YOU, IN MY OPINION, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT WAS JUST OUR BRICK AND MORTAR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          THAT'S NOT INCLUDING DAYCARES, NURSING HOMES, SCHOOLS, UM, WHAT ELSE? FOOD TRUCKS, GROCERY STORES. 
          THAT GROCERY STORES WERE ON THERE. 
          UH, AND I, UH, WHAT ELSE? AND THEN THE, THE CURRENT MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY OF THOSE. 
          I CAN DO THEM TWICE A YEAR, BUT THAT LEAVES NO ROOM 
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FOR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          SO, WHICH MEANS I'M OUT ALL DAY INSPECTING. 
          I COME BACK TO DO PAPERWORK. 
          PAPERWORK DOES GET STACKED UP. 
          I DO GET BEHIND ON IT, BUT I GET IT OUT AS SOON AS I CAN. 
          UM, COULD I USE HELP? YES. 
          BUT OUR ENTIRE HALLWAY COULD USE THE HELP. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO HOW MANY FOOD TRUCKS DO YOU HAVE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW? UH, THE LAST, I THINK I HAD A COUPLE FALL OFF THE LAST I COUNTED. 
          WE HAD ABOUT 50 50 MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YES. 
          THEY, THEY GET, THEY GET INSPECTED ANNUALLY AND I ONLY COME IN. 
          SO THE ONES THAT ARE HERE PARKED IN LAKE JACKSON GETTING INSPECTED TWICE, THE ONES THAT ARE NOT PARKED ONLY GET INSPECTED ONCE. 
          'CAUSE THEY ONLY COME FOR EVENTS. 
          AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE. 
          SO YEAH. 
          FOOD TRUCKS ARE VERY POPULAR AND HONESTLY, WE'RE THE, WE'RE ONE OF THE LOWEST FOR FOOD TRUCKS. 
          AND, AND THEY ENJOY COMING TO THE, TO THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO THEY TEND TO, TO PILE UP ON ME. 
          LIKE PERMITTING FEES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? MM-HMM. 
          , YES. 
          THEY TEND TO PILE UP ON US, WHICH IS FINE. 
          WE ENJOY THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          IT'S A GOOD WELCOME. 
          REPUTATION. 
          WE GOT GOOD JOB WITH KEEPING US SAFE AND HEALTHY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I ENJOY IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ERIC ON THIS UPDATE? AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP IN THE NEXT MEETING WITH, UH, A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, LET ME SEE JUST A SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A NEW FACE IN THE AUDIENCE, MAYBE MS. KELLY? MS. KELLER? MS. KELLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD SINCE YOU, WE'LL, WE'LL UH, BRING YOU BACK ON THE AGENDA OR TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT YOUR ITEM AGAIN. 
          SO IT'S, UH, OR JUST DISCUSS YOUR ITEMS SINCE YOU'RE HERE. 
          SO, 
          [1. Discuss and consider whether the city would be open to beginning the process of granting a special use permit for a Battery Energy Storage System (BESS). – Casey Keller (Part 2 of 2)]
SO WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, JUMP UP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          THAT'S, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER THE CITY WOULD BE OPEN TO BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF GRANTING SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. SO IF YOU WANNA STEP UP. 
          SO TELL US WHAT YOU WANNA DO. 
          SURE. 
          SO WE ARE INTERESTED IN BUILDING A 9.9 MEGAWATT DISTRIBUTED GENERATION BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM AT SIX 40 WILLOW DRIVE. 
          AND THIS PROJECT WOULD BE IN COORDINATION WITH CENTERPOINT, WHICH IS THE LOCAL UTILITY THAT HAS A SUBSTATION AND THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THAT ONE. 
          AND THE GOAL WITH THIS BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM IS TO HELP PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RELIABILITY TO THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON. 
          UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF WILL TAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PARCEL. 
          IT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE BASICALLY THREE, UM, SHIPPING CONTAINERS. 
          UH, AND THERE WOULD BE GRAVEL IN BETWEEN THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND VARIOUS BEAUTIFICATION AROUND THE EDGES OF THE PARCEL AS WELL AS THE FENCE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CANNOT ACCESS ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, WHAT ELSE? UNLIKE WIND TURBINES, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS ARE RELATIVELY QUIET. 
          THEY END UP SOUNDING VERY SIMILAR TO THE SUBSTATION NEXT STORAGE, SORT OF LIKE A DULL ELECTRICAL HUMMING. 
          SO IT SHOULDN'T PRODUCE ANY NOISE POLLUTION. 
          UM, THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS THEMSELF HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE VERY SAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTAINERIZED. 
          EVERYTHING IS SORT OF CONTAINED WITHIN THAT CONTAINER. 
          UM, EACH CONTAINER COMES WITH ITS OWN FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. 
          UM, WITH THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT IS CONTAINED IN THERE. 
          WOULD THAT PUT OUT THE BATTERY FIRE OR ANY, OR JUST ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENED TO CATCH ON FIRE? SO BASICALLY WITH A BATTERY FIRE, WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS KEEP IT CONTAINED AND LET IT BURN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM KEEPS THE FIRE WITHIN THAT, UM, PERIMETER. 
          PERIMETER. 
          SO, SO YOU'RE NOT PART OF CENTERPOINT, YOU'RE JUST LEASING THIS SPACE? SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY LEASING THE SPACE FROM CENTERPOINT. 
          WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD PURCHASE THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT AND THEN INTERCONNECT INTO THAT SUBSTATION VIA A, AN ELECTRICAL LINE, LIKE A TRANSMISSION LINE THAT YOU SEE. 
          JAMES, WOULD YOU ZOOM IN AND SHOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS AND IT, DO Y'ALL CHARGE BENEFICIAL? DO Y'ALL CHARGE CENTER POINT ANYTHING? UM, NO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY CENTER POINT. 
          WE HAVE IT PULLED UP ON GOOGLE. 
          DO YOU WANT THAT MAP OR DO YOU WANT THIS TO, I THINK IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          JUST WHICHEVER ONE YOU CAN ZOOM INTO. 
          IT'S LESS COSTLY AND MORE BENEFICIAL TO YOUR COMPANY TO BE CLOSER TO THE SUBSTATION, CORRECT? YES. 
          VERSUS YES, EXACTLY. 
          HOW MANY OF THESE THINGS WE'RE SEEING HERE. 
          THE GRAY THINGS WILL BE AT THIS PROPERTY, THOSE THREE, UM, THERE WOULD BE THREE. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE THREE SMALL, IT'S LIKE THE PICTURE TRANSFORMERS AND THEN THREE SMALL CONTAINERS. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THAT IS, IS WHERE THE OLD FILLING STATION WAS OR THAT WHOLE AREA THERE? GREEN AREA GRASS, THE GREEN AREA. 
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SO IT'S IN BETWEEN. 
          AND QUESTION, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN EXISTENCE? THAT'S CLOSE TO OUR AREA AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO WITHIN SORT OF THE HOUSTON PROPER AREA? NO, NO. 
          THE LAKE JACKSON AREA. 
          UH, NONE. 
          NONE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE IN LAKE JACKSON? YES. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THIS PROPERTY IS NOT A NEXT TO THE, THE SUBSTATION. 
          IT'S ACROSS THE STREET, YES. 
          YOU REALIZE THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU SAID ADJACENT? ADJACENT. 
          SO THIS IS NOT CASE CLO CLOSE ENOUGH. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, BUT NO, YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          STILL DUNNO WHERE THAT EITHER IS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS OLD ERON ROAD RIGHT HERE. 
          THIS USED TO BE THE GAS STATION THAT SHUT DOWN AND THERE  ON YOUR LEFT. 
          SO THAT'S THAT CORNERS WILLOW DRIVE AND, UH, OLD ENG, OLD TON ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          THIS IS GREEN GRASS IS THE PROPERTY WE LOOKING AT. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL. 
          THERE'S A HEAVY RESIDENTIAL AROUND THIS. 
          HAS HAVE WE AS A CITY OR HAVE YOU AS A COMPANY REACHED OUT TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA? THIS WAS OUR FIRST STEP WITH THIS MEETING. 
          WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET. 
          NO. 
          SO DO YOU NORMALLY, UM, WE USUALLY DO THAT AFTERWARDS, UM, AFTER IT'S DONE SIDE SEALED AND DELIVERY? NO, NO. 
          USUALLY IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS TO GET A PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO POST A SIGN AND DEAL WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBER STIFF IN THIS PROCESS, UM, OUR ZONING CODE DOES NOT ALLOW THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE PRESCRIPTIVE. 
          AND SO IF COUNSEL WANTED TO PROCEED, THEN IT WOULD THEN BE PUSHED TO PLANNERS TO SEE, UH, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT IT AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? UH, WHAT AND THEN WHAT ZONE WOULD YOU WANT IT IN? I THINK ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD THEN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN, UM, THEN YOU WOULD THEN HAVING, THEN YOU WOULD START HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP TO SEE EVEN IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN, INTERESTED TO GO BACK TO, TO PLANTERS, THE FIRST CALL WAS TO SEND IT DOWN TO PLANNERS. 
          I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE PLANNERS START STUDYING THIS IF COUNCIL WASTE OF TIME WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT, AT ALL. 
          UM, MS. CALL. 
          I DID HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UH, ANGLETON RECENTLY HAD, UH, ONE INSTALLED, UH, BY THEIR SUBSTATION AND THEIR RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING OF NOISE. 
          AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING A SOUND WALL FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. 
          IS THAT EVER CALCULATED IN, UM, A PROCESS LIKE THIS OF USUALLY HOW CLOSE IT IS TO SEE IF IT'S WARRANTED OR NOT? YEAH, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A SOUND STUDY DONE AND WE COMPARE THAT TO THE SOUND RULES OR, OR LIMITS OF THAT JURISDICTION. 
          AND IF IT FALLS WITHIN THOSE LIMITS, UM, THEN NO. 
          IF IT FALLS ABOVE THOSE LIMITS, THEN YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY OR WE COULD JUST PUT IT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND LAW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION I'M HAVING WITH ANGLETON IS, IS THAT, UH, IT'S PRODUCT GOT IT. 
          THE, THE SOUND IS NOT, IT'S NOT THE, THE LEVEL OF THE SOUND, IT'S THE PITCH AND THE TONE THAT'S BOTHERSOME TO PEOPLE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY THAT IT'S EXTREMELY LOUD. 
          AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO JUST THE FREQUENCY IS WHAT'S BOTHERSOME TO PEOPLE. 
          LEMME STEP BACK ON YOUR SAFETY, UH, COMMENT AND, AND FIRE AND STUFF AND, 'CAUSE I READ, UH, ALL YOUR PACKET, UH, FROM LAST WEEK, LAST MEETING. 
          AND, AND SO I READ THE STUDIES THAT THEY DID ON FIRE TESTING AND STUFF, AND YOU SAID, UH, AGAIN, THE PRACTICES ON ON FIRE IS IF THEY HAVE A FIRE IN ONE OF THESE, UH, CU CUBICLES OR ONE OF THESE CONTAINERS, IT'S THE FIRE SUPPRESSION IS SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN IT AND KEEP IT IN THAT. 
          SO IT'S JUST ONE CONTAINER IS A FIRE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE EXPECTED IF YOU HAVE A FAILURE IN THERE, WHAT'S, WAIT, HOW LONG DOES A FIRE BURN? BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WE'VE ALL SEEN THE TESLAS, UH, ON TV THAT ARE BURNING ON HIGHWAYS AND STUFF. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS IS MULTIPLE TESLAS, UH, GOING OFF AT ONE TIME. 
          SO IT IS, IT CAN, IT CAN BURN FOR MANY HOURS. 
          UM, BUT THE GOAL IS THAT UNLIKE A TESLA BURNING IN THE MIDDLE OF A HIGHWAY AROUND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, THIS WOULD STAY VERY WELL CONTAINED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THESE CONTAINERS, ANY SPECIAL TYPE OF CONTAINERS OR THEY'RE JUST REGULAR OLD CONTAINERS? NO, THEY'RE VERY SPECIAL CONTAINERS. 
          UM, THEY'VE BEEN PURPOSE BUILT EXACTLY FOR THIS TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE SAFETY REGULATIONS. 
          AND THESE ARE DEPLOYED ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UH, NEW YORK TENDS TO BE THE JURISDICTION WITH THE MOST STRINGENT FIRE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT, IT, EVERYTHING'S VERY COMPACT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF THE SAFETY REQUIREMENT THAT EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN TO, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE DEPLOYED IN MORE RURAL AREAS. 
          SO THIS IS A 80 FOOT WIDE LOT. 
          SO YOU PLAN TO PUT THESE CONTAINERS LENGTHWISE. 
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UH, SO THESE CONTAINERS, I IMAGINE THERE ARE 40 FOOTERS, SO 2020, THE 20 FOOTERS. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO IT'S 20. 
          BUT YOU HAVE THE, UH, LOOKING AT THE PICTURE THOUGH, YOU HAVE YOUR OTHER, UH, APPARATUS OUTSIDE. 
          IS THAT INCLUDING, DOES THAT 20 FOOT INCLUDE THAT OR IS THAT, SO 20, THE, THERE'S BASICALLY TWO PIECES, RIGHT? THE, THE BATTERIES GO IN THE CONTAINER AND THEN THERE'S, UM, A VERY SMALL STEP. 
          THEY CALL IT A STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER STEP UP. 
          SO IT TAKES THE VOLTAGE THAT, UM, IS VERY LOW THAT THE BATTERIES ARE PRODUCING AND STEPS IT UP TO WHERE IT CAN GO TO THE SUBSTATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY OR THE LAST MEETING IS THE POWER THAT IS GENERATED AND STORED FOR THIS BATTERY. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED SPECIFIC TO LAKE JACKSON OR IT JUST GOES BACK TO THE POWER GRID IN GENERAL. 
          SO IN ESSENCE, YOU KNOW, POWER IS USED WHERE IT IS PRODUCED OR CONSUMED. 
          RIGHT? IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR POWER TO TRAVEL VERY LONG DISTANCES. 
          SO IN REALITY, ANY POWER THAT THIS GENERATES WOULD BE USED LOCALLY IN THE LAKE JACKSON AREA. 
          NOW THIS IS DISTRICT, IT WOULD, THE MAJORITY USUALLY SAYING WE GOT TWO PEOPLE, COUNCILMAN BAKER FIRST. 
          SO IT, IT WOULD COVER THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY. 
          YES. 
          PART OF THE CITY. 
          UH, IT WOULD COVER PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE CITY WITH 9.9 MEGAWATTS. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THIS USED JUST IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS OR IS IT RUN, IT RUN CONSTANTLY? IT CAN BE EITHER THE, OR HOW YOU, HOW Y'ALL WANT IT IF IT GOES IN THERE. 
          SO USUALLY THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED ECONOMICALLY TO PROVIDE POWER WHEN THE GRID NEEDS IT, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE CONSUMING POWER WHEN THERE'S TOO MUCH, LIKE WHEN IT'S VERY SUNNY AND ALL THE SOLAR GENERATION IS SHINING AND THEN IT SPITS IT BACK OUT ONTO THE GRID. 
          WHEN EVERYBODY GETS HOME FROM WORK TURNS THEIR AC ON AND POWER IS NEEDED. 
          SO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PRICES GO LOW AND HIGH, THE BATTERY WOULD END UP ACTING IN THE MOST BENEFICIAL MANNER JUST BECAUSE IT'S ACTING ECONOMICALLY. 
          SO THOSE INCENTIVES ARE ALIGNED, SO EVERYTHING'S COPACETIC, IT'S NOT GONNA RUN. 
          UM, THERE'S NATURAL FLUCTUATIONS IN LOAD AND DEMAND EVERY DAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND SO IT BASICALLY HELPS EVEN THOSE OUT EVEN IN A, A DAILY MANNER IN SPECIFIC SCENARIOS WHERE THE POWER GOES OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEN THAT'S WHEN IT CAN REALLY, REALLY HELP AND MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          BUT IT ALSO HELPS JUST KIND OF IN NORMAL COURSE OPERATIONS AS WELL. 
          AGAIN, WHENEVER THE, THE, THE TERM BEING RUN IS BEING USED AND ONLY THING IT RUNS ON THIS IS THE INVERTER, THE BATTERIES ARE, ALL THEY DO IS STORE. 
          SO THEY TAKE EXCESS CAPACITY THAT'S OUT IN THE SYSTEM WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE AND IT GOES IN AND STORES IT. 
          AND WHENEVER THERE IS MORE DEMAND THAN WHAT THE CURRENT GRID CAN PROVIDE, WELL THEN IT, IT BRINGS THAT BACK INTO THE GRID. 
          AND SO THE HUM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE INVERTERS THAT'S SITTING OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINER, OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINERS. 
          THOSE INVERTERS, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT, UH, THE STEP UP, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE SOUND IS COMING. 
          SO IT'S WHEN THAT POWER IS MOVING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IT'S GOING TO BE MAKING THE SOUND, BUT IT'S, THERE'S NO NOTHING RUNNING. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S PROBABLY FANS OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S NOT ANYTHING, THERE'S NOT LIKE A GENERATOR THAT'S GENERATING POWER, IT'S JUST A STORAGE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          WHAT'S YOUR LIFE ON THE BATTERIES? IT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS. 
          UM, IF YOU DO WHAT'S CALLED AUGMENTATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW HOW WHEN YOU HAVE A PHONE THAT YOU'VE HAD FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS, THE BATTERY DOESN'T HOLD ITS CHARGE AS MUCH ANYMORE. 
          SO WITH SYSTEMS LIKE THIS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO LAST FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THEY COME IN PERIODICALLY AND REPLACE THE OLDER BATTERY CELLS THAT HAVE THE MOST WEAR AND TEAR. 
          SO THEY CAN, THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          MAINTAIN, ONCE YOU FINISH THAT, WHAT IS THE, HOW DO YOU DISPOSE OF THOSE BATTERIES? UH, THE MANUFACTURERS THAT CREATE THEM ALL HAVE RECYCLING PROGRAMS FOR THEM TO GO BACK INTO THOSE PROGRAMS AND AND BE RECYCLED. 
          SCOTT, I WAS CURIOUS, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE REMEDIATION. 
          'CAUSE I'VE HEARD PROBLEMS THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THE SOLAR SIDE, YOU KNOW, UH, A COMPANY GOING BANKRUPT AND THEN THERE'S A SOLAR FARM AND THEN THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE LANDOWNERS JUST KIND OF STUCK WITH THAT. 
          HOW DO, UH, OR HAVE THERE BEEN SIMILAR PROBLEMS IN INSTANCE LIKE THIS AND HOW DO YOU ALLEVIATE THAT? IN, IN THE CASE OF BATTERY STORAGE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE SOLAR, YOU'RE TYPICALLY DIGGING INTO THE GROUND TO ROOT THOSE SOLAR PANELS. 
          WITH BATTERY STORAGE, YOU'RE BASICALLY, UM, THERE'S A CONCRETE PAD THAT THE CONTAINERS SIT ON. 
          THE REST OF THE SITE IS, IS GRAVEL. 
          UM, SO REALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO AFTER 
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YOU PULL THE BATTERIES UP AND, AND TAKE THEM THROUGH THE RECYCLING IS YOU'RE LEFT WITH A CONCRETE PAD THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED. 
          UM, IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD ACTUALLY OWN THE LAND, SO WE'RE INCENTIVIZED TO NOT JUST WALK AWAY FROM IT. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS POSTED SORT OF A, A BOND THAT STAYS WITH THE CITY TO GIVE YOU GUYS THAT CERTAINTY OF MIND THAT WE WON'T BE ABANDONING THE PROJECT. 
          AND MS. KELLER HAS PROVIDED US AN, AN ORDINANCE WITH THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS EARLY ON, SO WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT A THOROUGH REVIEW. 
          WELL, THE ONE THING ABOUT A A COMPANY LIKE THIS IS THAT AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO UH, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN, THEY'RE GONNA PURCHASE A PIECE OF LAND, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN AND, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN IT. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE, I MEAN THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NIGHT THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN BAKER OF IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GONNA DO FOR THE CITY? AND ONE THING IS IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT RELIABILITY, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, UH, I MEAN, IT IS GONNA GENERATE JUST BECAUSE OF ASSET AND PROPERTY VALUE, IT IS GONNA GENERATE SOME PROPERTY TAX, SOME TAX, NOT A WHOLE BUNCH, BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING, IT IS A REVENUE GENERATOR, UH, FOR THE CITY. 
          UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOING TO HAVE FOR 20 YEARS AT LEAST. 
          AND, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, AND SO THAT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A NOISE ISSUE IN THAT AREA WITH RAILROAD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST, JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA IMPACT, UH, PROPERTY VALUES OR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, AND, UH, , AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED LAST TIME IS WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT HAS ON THE SURROUNDING BECAUSE IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON THAT? UM, USUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DONE VARIOUS VERSIONS OF FENCING THAT HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AESTHETICALLY PLEASING NATURE TO IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T STICK OUT LIKE A INDUSTRIAL SORE THUMB IN THOSE TYPES OF AREAS. 
          UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAVE DONE THE SOUNDPROOF RETAINING TYPE WALLS BEFORE TOO. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY USED TO THAT. 
          CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THE POWER OUTAGE. 
          THIS WOULD NOT HELP BECAUSE THE POWER OUTAGE MAY BE AT THE SOURCE. 
          SO HAVING AN EXTRA POWER IN THE POWER LINE IS NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM. 
          IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO WHAT THAT POWER OUTAGE MEANS. 
          UM, LIKE IN THE PAST STORM THAT WE HAD A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHERE THERE WAS STORED PARTS OF POWER TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OF THE STREET OUT AND THE OTHER SIDE, NOT IF IT'S LIKE A POWER LINE RELATED OUTAGE, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO STILL GET THE POWER FROM THAT BATTERY INTO THAT SUBSTATION TO BE DISTRIBUTED, THEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP PLUS THE POWER TRAVELS ELECTRONS THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE GRID. 
          SO IF THE POWER IS NEEDED IN HOUSTON, THEY COULD PROBABLY USE THE POWER HERE. 
          IT'S NOT RELATED, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO LAKE JACKSON. 
          IT WOULD PROBABLY BE DIFFICULT TO GET IT ALL THE WAY. 
          THE POWER POWER KIND OF FLOWS THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. 
          SO IF, IF THE POWER IS LOCATED HERE AND YOU NEED IT HERE, IT WOULDN'T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO HOUSTON. 
          IT WOULD BE CONSUMED HERE. 
          BUT IT WOULD, WHAT IT DOES THOUGH IS IT SUPPLEMENTS AND SO IT PUTS THE POWER BACK INTO THE GRID. 
          AND THE GRID, AGAIN, THIS IS, THINK OF ELECTRONS OR YOU CAN THINK OF A WATER HOSE AND WATER IS, IT'S GONNA FLOW WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TO FLOW. 
          SO YES, THIS POWER, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE ELECTRONS THAT ARE STORED HERE AND PUT IN A POWER LINE, YES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HOUSTON, THEY'RE GONNA BE USED HERE LOCALLY IF SOMEBODY FLIPS ON THE SWITCH. 
          AND, UH, TO WHERE THIS WOULD HELP YOU IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION IS IF WE, IF WE ARE KNOCKED OFF THE GRID, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT FEEDER THAT GOES IN THAT SUBSTATION IS DOWN BECAUSE WE HAD THE STORM GO DOWN AND POWER LINE AND THE BIG, YOU KNOW, BIG LINES GO DOWN IS THEN THAT COULD, IF CENTER POINTS STILL ALLOWED IT, IT COULD FEED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM INTO LAKE JACKSON. 
          UH, BUT FOR HOW, AGAIN, OUR, OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN LAKE JACKSON IS NOT REALLY THE FEEDS, IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OUR TREES WE GET IN THE INTERIOR OF THE CITY. 
          IT'S IS NOT BECAUSE WE PHYSICALLY CAN'T, WE'RE NOT GETTING POWER IN FROM CENTER POINT. 
          IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TREES LAYING ON POWER LINES IN, IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THIS, AND THIS ISN'T GONNA HELP WITH THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP WITH THAT. 
          THAT'S, AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRICE TO THE CITIZENS. 
          I'M SORRY? IT'S NOT GONNA LOWER OUR ELECTRICAL BILL ANY NO, NO. 
          IT WOULDN'T CHANGE SPECIFIC, UM, ELECTRIC BILL. 
          NO, IT'S, IT, ONE THING IT CAN HELP US TO DO IN ANY COMMUNITY IS, BUT, BUT YOU, IT, IT HELPS. 
          I, I WANNA SAY DON'T WANNA SAY COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHAT IT WILL DO IS, IS IT WILL HELP THE GRID IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE GRID IS SAYING, ERCOT 
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IS SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXTENSIVE CONSUMPTION AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RELEASE THIS POWER THAT'S STORED IN HERE AND IT WILL GO IN THE GRID UNTIL THE BATTERIES LEAK REACHED THERE. 
          NOW HOW, WHAT IS, ON A NORMAL DAY, WHAT KIND OF CAPACITY IN HOURS DOES THIS KEEP OR DAYS DOES THIS HAVE? IS THIS 24 HOURS OR? IT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO HOURS AT 9.9 MEGAWATTS EACH HOUR. 
          SO ABOUT 20 MEGAWATT HOURS AND BREAK THAT DOWN. 
          SO IS THAT  YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MEGAWATTS AND STUFF? SO, SO JUST SIMPLY AS IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CONSUME AS A CITY. 
          SO, SO ABOUT FOR ONE DAY THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 500,000 HOMES. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW LET'S BACK UP. 
          THIS IS ALL GOING BACK INTO THE GRID. 
          SO WHEN YOU FLIP THE SWITCH TO PUT POWER BACK IN THERE, HOW LONG WILL THE POWER BE TRANSFERRING FROM THESE BATTERIES INTO THE GRID? ABOUT TWO HOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS PUTS TWO HOURS OF ENERGY BACK INTO THE GRID. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING POWER 500,000 HOURS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S EVERYWHERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. 
          IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THEY DRIVE, SO I WAS GONNA PUT YOU COULD DO IT, IT'S BLIP IN THE RADAR. 
          SO, SO IT'S 20 MEGAWATT HOURS AND SO IT CAN DO THAT IN TWO HOURS. 
          IF YOU WANTED TO SPREAD THAT OUT OVER 24 HOURS, YOU COULD AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE DOING ONE MEGAWATT EACH HOUR. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO IT'S CAN BE KIND OF RATED. 
          HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE LAKE JACKSON AREA BESIDES THIS ONE? SO THE WAY THAT WE DECIDED ON THIS LOCATION IS WE TOOK, UM, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SUBSTATIONS FROM CENTERPOINT SUBSTATIONS AND WE ASKED THEM TO RUN WHAT'S CALLED A PRESCREEN. 
          AND IN THAT PRESCREEN THEY LOOK AT, DOES THAT SUBSTATION BASICALLY HAVE ELECTRICAL ROOM FOR THE BATTERY TO OPERATE? MM-HMM. 
          , UM, LIKE DOES IT HAVE ROOM FOR A SPECIAL FEEDER CIRCUIT? UH, AND THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY SAID QUALIFIED IN THE LAKE JACKSON AREA. 
          SO THAT'S HOW WE DECIDED ON THAT. 
          AGAIN, THE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR BOTTOM LINE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          CLOSER TO BOTH. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHERE THEY CAN PUT THIS ASSET ON THE GROUND FOR LOWEST COST TO THEM REGARDLESS OF IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          EVEN THOUGH THEY'LL PUT SOUND WALLS AND STUFF. 
          THERE'S JUST, YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE DO THIS AT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY? THAT'S, THAT'S A BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOW WHEN IT TALKS TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WENT TO CENTER POINT TO GET THE INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY THAT TIES INTO THE GRID BEFORE THEY CAN TIE INTO A GRID, BE IT, BE IT A, A GENERATOR SYSTEM, BE IT A, A SOLAR FARM, BE IT A WIND FARM, THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH CENTER POINT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND THEN CENTER POINT GIVES 'EM INFORMATION AND TELLS 'EM, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE YOUR TIE POINT'S GONNA BE. 
          AND SO THAT COMPANY'S GONNA LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, IF WE BUY THIS PIECE, WE PUT THIS WIND FARM HERE, OUR TIRE POINT TIE POINT IS GONNA BE 20 MILES AWAY. 
          THAT'S EXPENSIVE. 
          OKAY, ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE'S EXPENSIVE. 
          OR WE CAN GO LOOK AT THIS OTHER PLACE WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TOWN FOR A SOLAR FARM. 
          AND, UH, IT'S GONNA BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THEM AS A BUSINESS TO PUT IT THERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IMPACT ON, HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO IT'S, YEAH, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN TECHNOLOGY. 
          I BELIEVE IN THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          I LIKE THIS TECHNOLOGY BETTER THAN I LIKE ANY KIND OF WIND FARM OR ANY KIND OF SOLAR FARM. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF WE KEEP GOING DOWN THIS ROAD OF GREEN ENERGY AND EVEN IF WE JUST WENT TO POWER, YOU KNOW, NORMAL POWER, I STILL THINK THIS TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED OUT THERE. 
          I'M JUST NOT CRAZY ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. 
          I'D RATHER IT, IF WE COULD FIND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU COULD FIND LOCATIONS THAT WERE JUST NOT IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT A NIMBY PERSON, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IT'S JUST THAT I JUST, I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY CRAZY ABOUT IT, UH, BEING IN TOWN. 
          I'D RATHER BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A THOUSAND ACRES THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE, THAT 350 OF IT HAS TO BE INDUSTRIAL RETAIL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          BE A PERFECT SPOT FOR THIS. 
          POWER CABLES GO RIGHT ABOVE THE ROAD CENTER POINT'S, EVENTUALLY GONNA PUT A TRANSMISSION CENTER OUT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING COULD BE DONE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT EVER HAPPENS. 
          BUT IT'S JUST, I I, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING THIS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR IN, IN THE CITY OF A CITY, CENTER OF CITY. 
          THEY DO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          SO IT'S, ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND TALKING TO US AND STUFF. 
          AND AGAIN NO, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          IT'S STILL UP TO COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT, BUT, UH, I DO, IT'S, THERE'S A GREAT VALUE WHEN A COMPANY LIKE YOURS COMES AND TALKS TO US INSTEAD OF JUST GIVES YOU 
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A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE HAVE TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          BUT, UH, I DO APPRECIATE YOU, UH, COMING IN AND TALKING TO US. 
          WHERE'D YOU TRAVEL FROM? UM, I LIVE DOWNTOWN HOUSTON. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO DO WE NEED DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? DO Y'ALL WANT TO, UH, THINK ABOUT IT IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN AND STUFF? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'LL JUST, UH, LEAVE IT AS A PRESENTATION AND THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE IT ANY FURTHER IT SOUNDS LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR, UH, LISTENING TO THAT PRESENTATION AND, AND STUFF. 
          INTERESTING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S GOOD STUFF. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, WE'LL 
          [3. Approve the request to terminate the contract with Chano & Sons, Inc. for not complying with the terms of the custodial contract for the Civic Center rental rooms. – Robin Hyden ]
MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEM THREE. 
          AND THIS IS APPROVED THE REQUEST TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, THE CHAO AND SONS. 
          CHAO AND SONS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, INCORPORATED. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS OF THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT FOR THE CIVIC CENTER RENTAL ROOMS. WE'LL START WITH ROBIN. 
          UH, YES SIR. 
          SO ORIGINALLY THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED, UM, TO, WITH THEM ON MARCH THE 18TH. 
          AND SINCE THAT TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, THEY, UH, MALLORY AND I'M GONNA LET HER COME UP AND SHE CAN SPEAK AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, FROM MULTIPLE, THERE'S BEEN JUST MULTIPLE INCIDENTS OF DEFICIENCIES AND, UH, STAFF HAS KEPT PHOTOGRAPHS. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND, AND TRIED TO WORK THINGS OUT. 
          UM, ON MAY 14TH, AGAIN, A DEFAULT LETTER WAS SENT OUT TO THE COMPANY, UM, WITH THE ATTENTIONS TO TERMINATE IF THEY DIDN'T GET THOSE DEFAULTS CON UH, CORRECTED. 
          UM, AND THEN RIGHT. 
          UM, THE SAME TIME WE STILL HAD SOME MORE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THEIR CLEANING THINGS AND I THINK THAT MALLORY HAD PUT A PACKET IN THERE TOO OKAY. 
          OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE HAD. 
          AND JUST BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER ON, THIS IS, UH, COUNSEL, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPANY HERE AND SHE'S, UH, DOWN TO, TO SPEAK TO US TOO. 
          SO WE'LL TALK FIRST, WE'LL TALK WITH STAFF FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          IF IS, IS ITEM FOUR TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THREE IF WE YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND I'M GONNA LET MALLORY TOO, IF SHE HAS SOME, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER ON THINGS, BRING US UP TO SPEED. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, SO ON AS THE SUMMARY SAYS ON MARCH 18TH, WE AWARDED IT TO CHAO AND SONS TO CLEAN THE CIVIC CENTER RENTAL ROOMS. UM, THEY COME IN AFTER EACH RENTAL AND THEY DO, THEY BASICALLY CLEAN THE ROOM AFTER THE RENTAL HAS USED IT AND GET IT READY FOR THE NEXT RENTAL TO COME IN. 
          UM, SO THEY TAKE PLACE OF THE STAFF HAVING TO GO IN AND DO IT. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY WE'VE HAD SOME INCIDENCES. 
          THEY STARTED IN APRIL AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE INCIDENCES WITH, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MISSED. 
          UM, AND SO AS ROBIN SAID ON MAY 14TH, THEY WERE PUT ON PROBATION. 
          THEY WERE ON PROBATION UNTIL MAY 24TH TO CORRECT IT. 
          AND THEN ANYTHING AFTER MAY TWO, ANY DEFICIENCIES AFTER MAY 24TH WOULD RESULT IN TERMINATION. 
          SO ON JUNE 20TH WE HAD ANOTHER DEFICIENCY. 
          SO, UM, AFTER SPEAKING WITH STAFF, UH, IT WASN'T AN EASY DECISION, BUT WE CAME TO THE DECISION TO JUST TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AND UH, MOVE ON WITH A NEW, UH, AND WE'VE BEEN USING A CONTRACTOR FOR DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS FOR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, CORRECT? WE HAVE, YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , MELANIE. 
          AND THIS IS THE CLEANING SERVICE THAT WE CHARGE BACK TO THE RENTER, CORRECT? YES. 
          SO ALL OF THE RENTAL FEES OR ALL THE, UM, THE RENTAL FEE FOR THE ROOM INCLUDES THE CLEANING SERVICE FEE. 
          SO, AND EVERY RENTAL NOW HAS THE CLEANING SERVICE RIGHT. 
          PROVIDED FOR IT. 
          SO THE REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE RENTAL FEES GOES TOWARDS THE CLEANING OF THE ROOMS. CORRECT. 
          HAVE THEY BEEN SLACKING IN IN PREVIOUS TIMES? THIS IS THE FIR ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUS CLEANING COMPANIES? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OH YEAH. 
          UM, AND AS I HAVE SPOKE WITH CHANO AND SONS, UM, I WOULD BE LYING IF I SAID OTHER COMPANIES DIDN'T MISS THINGS. 
          EVERYBODY MISSES THINGS. 
          UM, THE, THE ISSUE WITH THIS IS THAT IT'S BEEN SO CONSISTENTLY MISSING THINGS AND NAMELY THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          THAT AND NAMELY THE SAME. 
          THIS AIN'T YOUR FIRST HICCUP. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ONE OF THE THINGS TOO WITH THIS IS THAT, UM, WHEN THEY COME IN AND CLEAN WE SOMETIMES WE HAVE A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER EVENT. 
          SO WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO GET THINGS DONE AND TURNED AROUND. 
          AND FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS TO GO IN AND FOR OUR SETUP AND THINGS AND IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND CLEAN OR TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES, IT REALLY DOES PUT IT BEHIND AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AFFECTS. 
          WELL YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          YOU THINK SOMEBODY TO DO IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HIRED, UH, GIVEN THEM A CONTRACT IN APRIL 
          [00:55:01]
WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THESE PEOPLE WITH THIS COMPANY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THEY DO CLEAN ANOTHER FACILITY. 
          NO, THIS COMPANY DOES NOT. 
          NAWA. 
          UM, OH NA NAWA. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SEATTLE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MALLORY BEFORE WE ASK MS. MONTOYA TO, IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          MY, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, YOU ARE COMING FROM FAYETTEVILLE, TENNESSEE? NO, I USED TO BE LEAVING IN HOUSTON AND THEN I MOVED TO CONROE RECENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GOOD EVENING TO CANCEL. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO US. 
          I'M PA MONTOYA FROM CHINO AND SCIENCE INC. 
          AND WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO PROVIDING CLEAN SERVICES FOR LAKE JACKSON CIVIC CENTER FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS. 
          UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE VALUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING. 
          I KNOW THAT IS A LOT OF THINGS TO IMPROVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE, UH, RESPONSIVE SERVICE. 
          THAT MEANS THAT IF WE'RE CALLED LAST MINUTE, WE ARE HERE TO CLEAN, UM, AS WELL. 
          UH, WELL WE ARE PROUD OF THE SHIPMENTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO MEET, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO IMPROVE AND THAT ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET AND THAT MY TEAM ACTUALLY ASKED TO THE NIGHT SHIFT SUPERVISOR OR TO  AND FROM THOSE TIMES THAT THEY GET THE APPROVAL. 
          UM, SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP OR ANY QUESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          SO ARE THESE YOUR EMPLOYEES OR YOU CONTRACT THEM OUT? I'M CONTRACTING THEM OUT. 
          SO OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVE WOULD INDICATE THAT, OKAY, YOU GAVE US THIS ISSUE, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT AND IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT ISSUE TO IMPROVE ON, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM OUR STAFF IS THAT IT'S CONSISTENTLY THE SAME ISSUE, MEANING THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. 
          SO WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING IS THAT WE ARE GONNA REPLACE THE CREW. 
          'CAUSE FROM THE ONE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UH, BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING, THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY ARE GETTING IS ACTUALLY THAT IT'S GOOD. 
          I HAVE ALSO VISITED, UH, THE SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO HEAR THE FEEDBACK THAT SHE HAS. 
          UH, AND IT WAS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IMPROVING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ROBIN OR MALLORY, YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT OR WHO GIVES THEM FEEDBACK? SO, UM, I NEED TO STEP UP THE MIC SO WE CAN RECORD IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN PARTICULAR WHEN SHE ASKED, UM, IF THEY HAD BEEN IMPROVING, THAT WAS WHEN, UH, THEY CAME TO JASMINE HALL 'CAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING IN A BID TO CLEAN JASMINE HALL AND SHE ASKED HOW ARE THEY DOING? ARE THEY IMPROVING? AND AT THAT MOMENT, YES, THEY HAD IMPROVED, BUT THEN AGAIN, THE INSTANCE ON JUNE 20TH AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND AFTER THAT, AND THEN THE UM, THE UH, LETTER, THE LETTER OF PROBATION, THE LETTER OF PROBATION SAID THAT ANY DEFICIENCIES AFTER THAT DATE WOULD RESULT IN TERMINATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IMPROVEMENT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THERE WAS A, AND THEN WE'RE RIGHT WHERE WE STARTED AND THEN IT REVERTED RIGHT BACK. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND AS I HAD EXPLAINED TO HER WHEN THEY WERE FIRST PUT ON PROBATION, THAT THE MAIN AREA OF CONCERN THAT I HAD WAS THE BALLROOM KITCHEN. 
          AND AGAIN, IT WAS THE BALLROOM KITCHEN THAT WAS THE SAME ISSUE. 
          AND SO, UH, ULTIMATELY THAT WAS THE DECISION. 
          UH, MS. LATOYA MENTIONED THAT, UH, THEY'RE ON, UH, QUICK RESPONSE. 
          HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE TO DO, WE CALL 'EM LAST MINUTE FOR A CLEANUP OR SOMETHING? SO IF I HAVE, AND I'LL SAY IF I HAVE A RENTAL THAT COMES THE DAY BEFORE AND THEY WANT A CLEANING, UH, A CLEANING JOB, THEN I JUST EMAIL THEM AND I SAY, HEY, CAN I ADD THIS TO THE CLEANING? AND YES, THEY DO, BUT ALL CLEANING COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIVE LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND UH, THE CLEANERS LIVE IN NORTH HOUSTON, SO CORRECT. 
          NO, THEY'RE FROM SOUTH HOUSTON. 
          SOUTH HOUSTON. 
          SO THEY DO LIVE IN OUR AWAY, SO IT'S NOT SO MOST LIKE IN PREVIOUS, WHENEVER I HAVE HAD ISSUES LIKE, HEY, SOMETHING WAS MISSED, THEY'RE RIGHT OUT THERE. 
          THEY CLEAN IT UP, BUT I CAN'T REALLY CALL, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE CALLING THEM SAYING, HEY, YOU MISSED THE BARROOM KITCHEN SINK. 
          COME OUT AND CLEAN IT. 
          IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU AN HOUR TO GET OUT HERE. 
          I'D RATHER JUST, SO JUST WHEN THEY DID THEIR CLEANING OF STAFF THERE, DO IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF THERE OR, OR THEY, NO, UM, THEY HAVE KEYS TO THE FACILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THEY CAN DO IT ON THEIR OWN. 
          SO THE OTHER CONTRACTORS, OTHER CUSTODIAN CONTRACTS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CREW OR THEY CONTRACT IT OUT AS WELL? UH, SO THE PREVIOUS CLEANING COMPANY, SHE DID A LOT OF IT HERSELF, BUT SHE ALSO HAD HER OWN CREW AS WELL. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT YOU GET FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR OWN CREW. 
          THEN THEY CONTRACT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A, 
          [01:00:01]
IN A THIRD PARTY VERSUS A SECOND PARTY DOING THE WORK. 
          SO YEAH, SHE WAS VERY HANDS ON. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? NO SIR. 
          ANYBODY? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR, I'M MOVE TO REQUEST, APPROVE THE REQUEST TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN JANUARY AND SONS INC. 
          FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS OF THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT OF CIVIC CENTER RENTAL ROOMS. SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN SHANYA, A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          [4. Award custodial contract for Civic Center rental rooms to Brazosport Cleaning Plus in an amount not exceeding $93,330 as budgeted. – Robin Hyden ]
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM FOUR AWARD, CUSTODIAL CONTRACT, UH, CIVIC CENTER RENTAL ROOMS TO RISE SUPPORT CLEANING PER CLEANING PLUS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $93,330 AS BUDGETED ROBIN. 
          UM, YES. 
          SO WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BIDS IN MARCH, UM, THE CUSTODIAL SERVICE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OPEN AND AWARDED TO THE LOW BIDDER, UM, DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR POOR PERFORMANCE, WE WANTED TO GO WITH THE, UH, NEXT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS BRAS SUPPORT CLEANING PLUS TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THEM. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE IN LINE. 
          HAVE Y'ALL VETTED THEM ANY OTHER THAN JUST THROUGH THE APPLICATION OR THIS COMPANY THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? YES, WE DID. 
          THEY, THEY'VE BID BEFORE WITH US BEFORE THEY'VE BEEN AND DONE OTHER CLEANINGS WITH US TOO. 
          THEY JUST WEREN'T THE LOW BIDDER. 
          THEY WEREN'T THE LOW BIDDER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ON THERE. 
          I BELIEVE SO, YES. 
          DO YOU HAVE YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THESE GUYS? WE HAVE HAD, YES, SIR. 
          AND SO THERE'S $93,000 THIS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OR JUST FOR THE PARTIAL YEAR? UM, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR THE REMAINING REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AND THEN WHEN WE WOULD REDO IT OR OCTOBER, UM, AWARD THE CONTRACT OR IS IT UP FOR? YEAH, I THINK IT'S FOR THE YEAR. 
          YEAH, IT'S FOR THE YEAR. 
          AND WE CAN THE TO, IT'S JULY 1ST TO JULY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT FOR THE YEAR? YES. 
          YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT FEE IS ALSO DONE THROUGH THE RENTERS, SO WHEN IT COMES IN. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? NOT I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR. 
          MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT FOR CIVIC CENTER RENTAL ROOMS,  FOR CLAIM PLUS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $93,330 AS BUDGETED. 
          SECOND. 
          IT. 
          ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION. 
          MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. 
          I MEAN, UH, GOD BUELL, I'M GOING BLIND HERE. 
          SORRY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL MOVE ALL, 
          [5. Award Bid #24-05-005 for custodial services to Brazosport Cleaning Plus for Municipal Court not exceeding $20,800 annually as budgeted and Jasmine Hall not exceeding $15,600 annually as budgeted. – Robin Hyden ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE. 
          AWARD BID NUMBER 24 0 5 OR 0 5 0 0 5 FOR KE SERVICES TO BRA SUPPORT CLEANING PLUS FOR ADMISSIBLE COURT AND NOT TO EXCEED $20,000 80 $20,800 ANNUALLY AS BUDGETED AND JASMINE HALL AND NOT EXCEEDING $15,600 ANNUALLY BUDGETED AS BUDGETED ROBIN. 
          YES. 
          SO ON TUESDAY, JUNE THE 18TH, THEY, WE OPENED BIDS FOR THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES FOR MUNICIPAL COURT. 
          SORRY, MA'AM. 
          OF COURSE I GET UP HERE NOW. 
          I GOT A CALL IN JASMINE HALL. 
          THERE WERE MANDATORY SITE VISITS, UM, ON THE JUNE THE FOURTH AND THE SIXTH, UH, THAT FOR THE COMPANY'S ATTENDED, THIS WILL, UM, THE TWO BID PACKAGES WERE RECEIVED AND PUBLICLY READ ALOUD. 
          THIS BID PACKAGE WAS ADVERTISED. 
          YOU KNOW, WESTPORT CLEANING PLUS WAS THE LOWER BIDDER FOR MUNICIPAL COURT. 
          THE LOWER BIDDER FOR JASMINE HALL WAS OF CHANO AND SONS, BUT WITH THEM BEING ON PROBATION AS A VENDOR, WE WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND BPORT CLEANING PLUS TO COME THROUGH AND FOR THIS FACILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? NO. 
          OTHER THAN JUST, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE SAME COMPANY, SAME EVERYTHING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT JUST NORMALLY ON THIS WOULD PREFER TO SEE THESE AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME BID PACKET. 
          SO IT WAS ALL IN THE SAME, SAME, IT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR MOWING CONTRACTOR. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW WE ALL DO LIKE, YEAH. 
          AND SO I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS TWO TWO BID PACKETS. 
          IT IS, IT WAS, THIS IS A, THIS WAS THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND JASMINE HALL WAS THE SAME BID PACKET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FOR THE BUT SEPARATE FROM THE CIVIC CENTER? YES. 
          SEPARATE FROM THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          SAME BID PACKET. 
          BUT THEY BID IT ON HIM SEPARATE? YES. 
          THEY PUT A PRICE IN SEPARATELY. 
          YES. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THE CURRENT COMPANY IS A DIFFERENT COMPANY, BUT, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD GOOD LUCK WITH THEM. 
          SAME BID PACKAGE, NO PROBLEM. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON FIVE. 
          MR. SAMIRA. 
          I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE BID BID PACKAGE 24 DASH OH 5 0 5 CUSTODIAL SERVICES TO BRASS BOARD CLEANING PLUS FOR MUNICIPAL COURT NOT EXCEED 28,000, 20,800 ANNUALLY AS BUDGETED. 
          AND JASMINE, HOW NOT TO EXCEED 15,600 ANNUALLY AS BUDGETED. 
          ALRIGHT, SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANYA AND A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY 
          [01:05:01]
OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ROBIN. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [6. Discuss and consider the request from Main Lane Industries (MC²) for an uncontested release of $198,648.65 in construction retainage funds for the Downtown Revitalization Project Phase III. – Sal Aguirre ]
UH, ITEM SIX, DISCUSSING CONSIDER OF THE REQUESTS, UH, FOR, FROM, UH, MAINLINE INDUSTRIES MC SQUARE, UH, FOR AN UN UNCONTESTED RELEASE OF $198,648 AND 65 CENTS IN CONSTRUCTION, RETAINING FUNDS FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROJECT PHASE THREE SOUTH. 
          UH, WE HAD, UH, IN MY, UH, ATTACHMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THERE, I SENT YOU A DETAIL ON THE, UH, TIMELINES, UH, WHEN THE WORK WAS STARTED, WHEN THE CONTRACT STARTED, AND, UH, HOW THE WORK DEVELOPED THROUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT THERE. 
          LEADING TO THE VERY, UH, LAST, UM, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND FINAL COMPLETION AS THEY SAW IT. 
          AND AS WE SAW IT, UH, WE HAD A MEETING, UH, WHERE WE, UH, BROUGHT THESE ISSUES BEFORE THEM, BEFORE THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM MC TWO, UH, AND OUR ADMINISTRATION. 
          WE DISCUSSED ALL THOSE ISSUES AND WE GAVE OUR STANCE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM CONSTRAINING WHERE WE STOOD ON, ON, ON THE WAY WE'RE, LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ONE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          UH, THERE WASN'T A, A COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON THAT ONE. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, WE LEFT, UH, WE LEFT THAT MEETING WITH, UH, UH, WITH, UH, NO RESPONSE FROM THE CONTRACTOR. 
          UH, IT CAME BACK LATER ON AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME WHEN THEY REQUESTED THAT, UH, I MEAN, AT THAT TIME WE SAID THAT WE WERE GONNA BE TRYING TO IMPOSE OUR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES CLAUSE THAT THE CONTRACT PROVIDED FOR US IN THE CONTRACT. 
          UH, WHAT YOU SEE THERE WAS WHAT CAME OFF OF THAT CONVERSATION IN OUR, IN OUR EYES AND WAS WHAT, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM. 
          AND, UH, THEY CAME IN AND THEY CAME BACK WITH THE, UH, FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GONNA BE REQUESTING AT LEAST DAMAGES PORTION THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRESENTED THERE. 
          I MEAN, WAS GONNA BE, UH, RE THE UNCONTESTED PORTION IS WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING THAT THEY'D BE RELEASED. 
          UH, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BEYOND THAT ONE, UH, ON THE REMAINING AREA, WHICH WAS A HUNDRED, UH, THE 183 LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. 
          UH, AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED, WE ARE OKAY WITH MAKING THAT RELEASE OF THE, UH, OF THE UNCONTESTED PORTION OF THAT, LEAVING THE 183 OF THE LIQUIDATE DAMAGES EITHER TO BE, UH, BE ACCEPTED BY THEM OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COMES OUT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW. 
          SO LET ME, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE THE LIST THAT'S IN YOUR LETTER THERE IS THE LIST WHERE WE SAID THEY FAILED. 
          IS THAT WHAT THAT LIST IS? CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THEIR RESPONSE BACK IS, IS, OKAY, WE ACCEPT WE SCREWED UP ON THOSE THINGS AND ALL WE WANT IS ALL WE'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU FOR IS THE LIQUID IDENTITY, THE DAMAGES? THEY DID NOT SAY SO ALL CERTAIN TERMS, THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANY. 
          NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TWO QUESTIONS TO TIE ON TO THAT. 
          AND THESE ARE PROBABLY SHERRY QUESTIONS. 
          AND THAT IS, IF WE PAY THIS AMOUNT, DOES IT SOMEHOW REDUCE LEVERAGE IF WE GO TO BATTLE OVER THE WHAT'S RUNNING? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, RIGHT. 
          WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, SO THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          SO ON THE SECOND PART, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT TO GET SOME SORT OF CASE WHERE THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING, THEY, WE'VE MADE REQUESTS AND THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING. 
          IS THERE A TIME LIMIT FOR THEM TO RESPONSE BEFORE YOU PUT THIS WHOLE THING TO BED OR NO. 
          THESE, THESE THINGS? NO, THERE'S NO TIME LEGAL TIME LIMITS. 
          SO IT COULD DRAG OUT INDEFINITELY. 
          MR. COOPER BIT, MR. BE YOU HAD A QUESTION? MM-HMM. 
          , YOU, YOU, YOU SAID WHAT? I THINK THIS IS A THING WE NEED TO DO, SHERRY NO, THIS IS RIGHT. 
          THIS IS WHAT SAL CALCULATED THAT THEY GET BACK. 
          SO YES. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE KEEPING THE REST AS LIQUIDATED. 
          SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO NOT PAY THEM ANYTHING TILL THEY RELEASE THE REST OF IT, BECAUSE THE REST OF MONEY, IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO RELEASING IT, NOBODY'S GONNA GET PAID. 
          IT'S GONNA STAY THERE IN ESCROW FOREVER WHEN YOU LENGTH OF TIME. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THE ESCROW IN OUR, IN OUR HANDS NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN HOLD THAT PORTION, THE  PORTION RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOU. 
          THAT'S THE, SO AGAIN, LET ME ASK YOU LEGALLY, SO MAYBE THIS ASK QUESTION IS FOR SHERRY. 
          SO IF WE HAVE A X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN, UH, RETAINAGE AND WE 
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RELEASING X MINUS ONE, THE REMAINING ESCROW STAYS THERE UNTIL THEY RELEASE IT. 
          RIGHT? WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT'S OUR MONEY. 
          UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION. 
          OR MAYBE, MAYBE I'M NOT PHRASING IT. 
          AND WHAT ARE WE, IS THAT A SHERRY QUESTION OR IS THAT WE'RE A SHERRY QUESTION. 
          WE'RE MISSING IT LIKE FOUR DOCUMENTS FROM THEM. 
          WHAT ARE WE MISSING? NO, I MEAN WE STILL HAVE ALL THE CLOSURE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED TO US. 
          YEAH, WE, I MEAN YEAH, WE NEED THOSE. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT THE QUESTION IS CAN WE HOLD, UH, THE REMAINING LIQUID DAMAGES PORTION OF THAT? DID WE AGREE THAT WE'LL DO IT IN STAGES? I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ONE MORE. 
          WE PUT OUT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS, UH, TODAY I SENT IN A LETTER THAT, UH, HASN'T GOTTEN, HAVE YOU GOT, HAVE YOU GOTTEN IT, MR. MUNDO? I SAW WHAT YOU WERE DRAFTING, BUT I I HAVEN'T CHECKED MY EMAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SHERRY, UH, YOU APPROVED US SENDING, THAT LOOKED LIKE A GOOD LETTER TO ME. 
          YEAH, CORRECT. 
          WHERE WE ARE SAYING THAT, THAT WE ARE, UH, WE WILL BE HO I MEAN THAT WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU TONIGHT AND THAT YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERING MM-HMM. 
           RELEASE OF THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF THE, OF THE PAYMENT THERE. 
          BUT WE STILL NEEDED TO HAVE THAT. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER, I MEAN, THAT WE WERE STILL GONNA HOLD THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A, UH, AS A NEEDED, UH, ITEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU, YOU GIVE US OUR CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS YEAH. 
          THEN, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHAT IT SAYS YOU WANT US TO VOTE TO AT LEAST 198 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS PARTICULAR TIME, THEN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY CAN GET THE REST. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE HAPPENING. 
          CORRECT. 
          WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ON THEM PROVIDING THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS SO WE CAN JUST BE DONE WITH IT AND CLEAR OUR BOOKS. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL TOGETHER. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, ASK WHAT THEIR THOUGHT IS. 
          LET HIM ASK AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          HE SAID, REALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, WHAT PLAN I THEY HAVE. 
          WELL, THEY ARE CONTENT WITH THIS AMOUNT THERE AND THEY WILL NOT FIGHT THIS AGAIN ANYMORE OR WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK. 
          BUT IT'S STILL UNTIL WE HAVE, WHETHER THEY'RE CONTENT WITH IT OR NOT. 
          NO. 
          AND, AND FOR THEM, AND, AND WE'LL SEE WHETHER OR NOT BY THEN SUBMITTING THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS NOW BY THEM SUBMITTING THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS, IT MAY BE GIVING YOU A SORT OF AN IDEA THAT THEY ARE, THEY'RE FINE WITH THAT. 
          AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT AND RELEASE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS WHEN ARE THEY GONNA GIVE US THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENT? SO WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, BUT THAT IS UP TO THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK NOT PAY GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I THINK WE OUGHT TO NOT PAY THEM UNTIL THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE THAT IS, THAT IS IS THAT, AND HE CAN GO BACK SAYING YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THESE CLOSE OUT DOCUMENTS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          TO CLEAR OUR BOOKS. 
          WHY? TO CLEAR OUR OWN BOOKS. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL, IS THAT'S, YEAH. 
          THE COUNCIL IS OPEN TO RELEASING THIS PARTIAL RETAINAGE, UH, WITH A CONDITION THAT WE RECEIVED THE CLOSEOUT. 
          UH, WELL, THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN SENT TO FILM. 
          THAT'S WHAT AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS. 
          I WANNA WRAP IT UP TODAY. 
          WELL, YES. 
          I MEAN, NOW THEY MAY STILL FIGHT US ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T, UH, WHAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT I FEEL THAT A PARTIAL PAYMENT NOW WITHOUT THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS, THEY COULD BE HAPPY WITH IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT THEN WE NEVER GET THOSE, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S FOREVER, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. 
          THEY MAY NOT BE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR THE, FOR THE REST. 
          WHEN WE LEFT THE MEETING, THEY DISPUTED OUR NUMBERS AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD GO BACK AND REVIEW THOSE AND GIVE US THEIR ALTERNATE VERSION OF THE CLOSEOUT DATE OR ANYTHING THAT THEY FELT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAD DELAYED THEM. 
          AND I HAD SAID THAT I'M OPEN TO LISTENING. 
          AND THEIR FIRST RESPONSE BACK SINCE THAT MEETING WAS THE, A PARTIAL REQUEST FOR RELEASE. 
          LET'S JUST WAIT TILL WE GET ALL THE NUMBERS, ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, AND JUST MAKE THIS ONE TRANSACTION VERSUS SEVERAL. 
          IS THERE, IN OUR PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THESE CONTRACTORS, IS THERE ANY REASON TO NOT DO IT THAT WAY? I MEAN, WE HAVE NO LEVERAGE AFTER WE PAY THIS AMOUNT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT LEVERAGE. 
          IT'S ABOUT LET'S JUST, I MEAN, I MEAN MONEY, IF, IF THEY'RE CONTENT, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS THEY'RE CONTENT WITH THIS AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. 
          AND WE'VE GOT THIS MONEY SITTING HERE FOREVER THAT'S, LET'S CLOSE OUR BOOKS. 
          MAKE IT ONE TRANSACTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND EVEN, AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW FROM, FROM STAFF IS, IS THAT, IS THAT ALL WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM IS THE $198,000 AT THIS TIME. 
          AND ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OVER IS, IS LIKE WHERE, OKAY. 
          SO WHENEVER, IF, IF WE GO OVER THERE AND IF COUNSEL GOES OVER THERE AND, AND SAYS, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTATION CORRECT. 
          THEN WE'LL 
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GIVE YOU, WE'LL WE WILL RELEASE THIS $198,000. 
          BUT THERE HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS DONE. 
          YOU CAN'T COME BACK TO US ON ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WELL, THIS IS DONE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, UH, I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT A NORMAL THING? I MEAN, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS, LIKE YOU SAID, IS THAT, THAT WE HAVE, I DUNNO WHAT THE REMAINING AMOUNT IS SITTING IN A ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH BECAUSE THEY CAN COME BACK TO US IN 20 YEARS. 
          I MYSELF CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS THAT YEAH. 
          UM, ALL WE, YEAH. 
          WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS WE'LL JUST, AND WE'LL PUT IT IN A LETTER. 
          THIS IS IT. 
          THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING YOU. 
          WE'RE WE'RE RELEASING THE REST TO OUR GENERAL FUND AND, UM, JUST LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT. 
          WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE LET'S SEE THEIR DOCUMENTS, THEY, NO, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          AFTER WE GET THE DOCUMENTS, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT MAY COME BACK AND WE'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, WE, WE DID CAUSE THAT MAYBE WE OWE 'EM $200,000. 
          YOU KNOW. 
          OH, YOU MEAN THOSE DOCUMENTS? I MEANT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING A CLOSE OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, IF THEY'RE GONNA ARGUE OVER, HEY, YOU ACTUALLY OWE US $250,000 AND HERE'S WHY, AND THEY HAVE DOCUMENT CLEAN DOCUMENTATION ON IT, THEN LET'S JUST DO IT ALL IN ONE TRANSACTION. 
          WELL THEN WHAT WE AGREED ON JUST A WHILE AGO, HOLD, HOLD EVERYTHING BACK UNTIL THEY AGREE TO GIVE US THE DOCUMENTATION AND LET'S DO ALL THE ARGUING. 
          GET OVER WITH BILL ABOUT, AND MAKE A PAYMENT BY DOCUMENTATION. 
          WE HAVE CERTAIN ONLY CLOSE OUT DOCUMENTATION. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN DOCUMENTATION THAT SAYS, WHAT IS YOUR FINAL DEAL? I MEAN, ARE YOU, ARE YOU CLOSING THE DEAL? CAN WE REQUEST REQUEST? WHOLE THING CAN REQUEST, CAN WE REQUEST IT THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING? WE CAN, UM, WHEN WAS THAT MEETING? BECAUSE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          WELL, WAS THAT MEETING? YEAH. 
          SEE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. 
          IF THEY, THIS IS A, TO US, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY. 
          AND IF THEY THOUGHT THEY DESERVED IT, RIGHT, THEY WOULD'VE GIVEN US SOMETHING. 
          AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS TO ASK FOR THIS CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTATION FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MONEY OUTSIDE OF THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. 
          THE OTHER PORTION CAN BE ARGUED FOR A A ANOTHER TIME OF DAY, TIME OF DAY. 
          THERE'S NO RUSH TO RELEASE IT INTO THE, INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET A, A RE A RELEASE, YOU KNOW, FROM THEM OR NOT. 
          UM, THEY DON'T GET 180, $198,000. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M JUST RECOMMENDING GETTING RID OF THIS. 
          IF THEY GIVE US THESE FOUR ITEMS THAT'S SAL HAD, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAY. 
          SO HOW MUCH IS THE REST OF THE RETAINAGE? IT DOESN'T SAY THAT HERE. 
          THE RETAINAGE, THE RETAINAGE IS 183. 
          WELL, THE WHOLE RETAIN RETAINAGE IS 300. 
          AND NOW LET'S SEE WHERE, SO 380, 3 81, TAKE THE 180 3. 
          THAT IS A FULL RETAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          180 8 IS THE UNCONTESTED, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WE COULD JUSTIFY BASED ON ALL, ON ALL OUR, UH, CONDITIONS, ALL OUR TIMELINES THAT WE, UH, THAT WE TOLD 'EM THAT WE, WE COULD LIVE WITH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDED, INCLUDED ALL THE, UH, THE DAYS THAT WERE UNPRODUCTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NONPRODUCTIVE DAYS THAT, UH, THAT WE FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR SHERRY IS THERE IS AND ALL THE OTHER DATES. 
          IS THERE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OF WHEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR A BEING? THAT'S WHAT I ASKED THE OTHER AMOUNT. 
          TWO YEARS. 
          I THINK THERE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, TIME LIMIT. 
          UM, IS THAT NOT A TIME LIMIT? FIVE YEARS, TWO YEARS? IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S PROBABLY TWO YEARS. 
          THE SOL IS USUALLY JUST TWO YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH SENDING THEM MONEY AND SAYING, BY THIS DATE, IF WE DON'T RESPOND, WE'LL CONSIDER THAT CLOSED. 
          MM-HMM. 
           NO. 
          SEND A CERTIFIED LATER. 
          WE JUST ADD, CAN WE JUST ADD A CITY CLOSE OUT DOCUMENT LIST AND ADD ONE THING, GIVE US DOCUMENTATION THAT WE'RE WE'RE DONE. 
          OUR BUSINESS IS CONCLUDED. 
          WE CAN ASK, UH, I MEAN, ASK THAT. 
          AND THEN IF THEY WON'T AGREE TO IT, THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY, THEY'VE AGREED, YOU KNOW, TO THESE, BUT THEY WON'T AGREE TO THE LAST ONE. 
          UH, WE CAN AT LEAST ASK THAT. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS I'M HEARING FROM STAFF IS, IS THAT WE DON'T RELEASE THE $198,000 UNTIL WE GET THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS. 
          THAT IS THE WAY IT'S THREATENED RIGHT NOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOUR LETTER WAS. 
          AND SO IF WE DID ANYTHING ELSE, IT WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTING YOUR LETTER, CORRECT? IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          WHAT WE'RE SAYING. 
          AND WITH THE CAVEAT TOMORROW, COUNSEL ADDED THAT WE, YOU WANT A RELEASE? YEAH, WE'RE DONE FROM ANY, ANY REQUEST FOR ANY OTHER REMAINING AMOUNT? WELL, IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT, YEAH, WE'LL ADD IT TO, TO THAT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT HASN'T GONE OFFICIALLY OUT. 
          IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OKAY. 
          GOING BEFORE THEM AGAIN. 
          SO PUT AN ADDENDUM TO YOUR LETTER. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, UH, PUT THAT IN SOME FORM OF A 
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MOTION, MR. GO AHEAD, MR. MAYOR. 
          I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WITHHOLD THE, HANG ON, WHERE'S THE NUMBER? THE UNCONTESTED RELEASE OF 198. 
          6 4 8 0.65. 
          UH, UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE CITY CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS, LIST ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE PLUS AN ADDENDUM OF WE WOULD LIKE RELEASE THAT OUR BUSINESS HAS CONCLUDED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN SETH. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BUELL. 
          SEE, I GOT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT DONE? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          [7. Approve a construction contract to the low bidder Branch Construction for the Lake Road 8-inch waterline extension from Dewberry Dr. to Jackson Oaks Subdivision I & II (Spanish Oaks) in the amount of $288,000, which includes $26,025 as a contingency allowance. – Sal Aguirre ]
LET'S GO ON TO, UH, ITEM SEVEN. 
          APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO LOW BIDDER, UH, BRANCH CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAKE ROAD EIGHT INCH WATERLINE EXTENSION FROM DEWBERRY DRIVE TO JACKSON OAK SUBDIVISION ONE AND TWO SPANISH OAKS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2 280 $8,000, WHICH INCLUDES $26,025 AS A CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE IN SALE. 
          AS YOU COULD. 
          WELL SEE. 
          WE HAD A, A FAIRLY WELL COMPETED, UH, PROJECT IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE. 
          WE HAD ALL THOSE SEVEN FROM COMPETITORS. 
          SOME OF THEM WERE OUR FAVORITE ONES AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEW. 
          UH, THE, UH, APPARENT LOW BIDDER RIGHT NOW IS RANCH CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, WE DO KNOW OF THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT DID SOME WORK ON ANYWAY, IF YOU REMEMBER WELL. 
          UH, WHICH WAS DONE UNDER THE BUY, UM, BOUR TYPE OF, UH, UH, BUSINESS CONTRACT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. 
          IT'S AN OPEN BID. 
          UH, UH, I ASKED, UH, OUR PREVIOUS, OUR, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, UH, OUR, OUR ASSISTANT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. 
          WHAT IS, UH, WHAT HAD BEEN HER EXPERIENCE WITH THEM. 
          AND SHE COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE AGAINST, UH, AGAINST THEM. 
          UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. 
          THEY WERE PROMISE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT IT WASN'T, UH, SAY ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD, UH, PENALIZE THESE PEOPLE FOR. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRANCH CONSTRUCTION. 
          THEY WERE THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER. 
          UH, WE CHECKED ALL THE UNIT PRICES. 
          THEY WERE FAIRLY ALL IN THE MIX. 
          THEY WERE NOT AT ALL COMPLETELY OFF ONE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          SO THEREFORE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE AWARDED THE, UH, PROJECT CONTRACT FOR 261 175. 
          AND WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU ALSO PROVIDE US WITH THE, UH, 10% CONTINGENCY, MORE OR LESS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT BRING IT UP TO A NOT TO EXCEED $288,000. 
          THE BUDGET WAS THERE, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS $300,000 AND THERE WERE, UH, $32,000 OF THAT SPENT IN THE DESIGN PORTION OF THAT ONE LEAVING AT, UH, LEAVING ONLY 268,000. 
          SO I HAVE ASKED, UH, THE, UH, R UH, WITH, UH, FOR THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. 
          HE, YOU KNOW, HE, UH, APPROVED IT. 
          HE SAYS, GO AHEAD AND, AND FUND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          SO MR. MOON IS GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT WITH $20,000 FROM SOMEWHERE IN HIS BACK POCKET. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? NO, SIR. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO, UH, ALLEVIATE THIS, UH, YOU REALLY NEED TO GET WATER SUPPLY TO, UH, THE WATER QUALITY TO THAT END OF TOWN. 
          SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I MEAN, FORWARD PROGRESS HERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. 
          IT'S JUST STICKING TIME. 
          IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE WILL, UH, TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM SIX. 
          NOTES, MOVE SEVEN FOR APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO BRANCH CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAKE ROAD EIGHT INCH WATERLINE EXTENSION FROM DEBERRY DRIVE TO JACKSON OAK SUBDIVISION ONE TWO IN THE AMOUNT OF 288,000, WHICH INCLUDES $26,025 AS A CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GILL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, 
          [8. Staff Updates]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF UPDATES. 
          MODESTO, UH, THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS COVER THE BUDGET CALENDAR. 
          UM, MR. BRYSON WAS CONTACTED BY OUR TEXAS COLLECTOR AFTER WE GAVE THEM OUR CALENDAR, AND THEY CAUGHT THAT I HAD SCHEDULED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UH, TAX RATE TOO EARLY. 
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UH, THE, THE STATE LAW SAYS IT HAS TO BE, UM, ON OR AFTER THE 12TH, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UH, THE INNER WORKINGS OF THEM GETTING IT PUBLISHED WITH THE FAX. 
          AND SO EVEN ON THE 12TH, IT AS AN ALTERNATE DATE WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THEM. 
          THEY'VE ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE 19TH, UH, WHICH WOULD BE A REGULAR MEETING DAY. 
          AND THAT WAS THE OTHER OPTION. 
          SO AFTER, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING WITH THEM AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET TO AUGUST 19TH, WHICH IS YOUR SECOND COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT? UM, IN AUGUST. 
          SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR WHEN, UH, I HAD IT ON THE FIFTH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE JUST MOVED IT, WHICH IS EARLIER THAN WE'VE EVER HAVE HAD IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T CATCH THE OKAY, NOW WE KNOW WHY. 
          NOW WE KNOW WHY  . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE YOU, YOU'VE GOT ON THE, UH, YEAH. 
          UM, WE'LL STILL PUT ON THAT MEETING DATE, UH, THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO ADOPT THE BUDGET OF THE TAX RATE ON THAT. 
          YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE IT, THE ADOPTION ON THE 19TH AND ALSO ON THE THIRD. 
          SO WE'LL GIVE YOU EITHER OPTION, UM OKAY. 
          BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE GETTING. 
          THIRD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, SO THE THIRD ON SATURDAY YOU HAVE A, UM, THE, UH, SATURDAY BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          WORKSHOP. 
          OKAY. 
          AUGUST, THE AUGUST 3RD. 
          THIRD, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE OTHER, UH, REMINDER, UH, NEXT WEEK. 
          IS IT NEXT WEEK? NO, NO, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. 
          TWO WEEKS. 
          TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE EMPLOYEE PICNIC ON WEDNESDAY, UH, AT THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          YOU ARE, WE ALL HOPE THAT YOU CAN BREAK FREE AND ATTEND. 
          WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UH, CITY HALL CLOSED FOR AN HOUR HERE DURING THAT LUNCH PERIOD. 
          BUT THE LUNCH IS FROM 11 TO ONE. 
          SO, SO, SO HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT COMPARED TO THE OLD WAY THAT THEY USED TO HAVE IT? THE, UM, OUT IN THE HEAT, THE PICNIC, UM, OUT MM-HMM. 
           THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING IS, UM, FROM THE EMPLOYEES, THEY LIKE IT 'CAUSE IT'S COOL, ESPECIALLY THE OUTSIDE PEOPLE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          WHO GET TO WORK IS SPLIT. 
          WE GET MORE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ATTENDING. 
          UH, NOW, UM, IN THE PICNIC WE GOT MORE, WE HAVE FAMILIES, UH, AND STUFF. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S A MIXED BAG. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE ALTERNATE AND THEN ONE YEAR HAVE A FAMILY EVENT. 
          IF WE HAD A FAMILY EVENT OR AN OUTSIDE EVENT, I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO PICK A DIFFERENT TIME OF YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          I SECOND THAT. 
          HOW ABOUT THE RETIREES? UH, THE RETIREES ARE INVITED, UH, TO, TO COME. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE HAD. 
          JUST A FEW. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE DO, BUT AN INVITATION IS SENT. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          BUT THE INVITATION IS SENT TO ALL THE RETIREES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO TAKE, UH, THANK, UM, COUNCILMAN SHANYA FOR WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ME. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE LAST TWO, I BELIEVE YAY, UH, RESPONSES FOR, UH, THE MIT MOD SURVEY ON HARVEY. 
          UM, LAURA MARIE HAS SET THE DATA AND THE FORMS TO OUR CONSULTANT SO THAT THEY CAN TABULATE IT AND PUT IT TOGETHER AND WE'LL SEE THAT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL SEND IT OFF TO THE, UH, GLO EYEBALL IN IT. 
          I THINK WE'LL, UM, MEET THE MID MOD. 
          THAT'S WHAT ALSO MILFORD WAS SAYING WHEN HE WAS LOOKING AT IT, BUT WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE IN THE NEXT WEEK, WEEK OR SO, OR IF WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET A FEW MORE HOMES, UM, ON THAT. 
          UH, IF WE'RE NOT, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS, UH, THE MAYOR HAD COME UP, UH, AND MADE A REQUEST TO THE COUNTY FOR, UH, THESE PORTABLE SIGNS. 
          OH, THE DIGITAL SIDE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THERE'S THREE OF THEM, UH, THAT ARE AT LEAST, UH, TRYING TO EDUCATE THE CITIZENS THAT PRIVATE FIREWORKS ARE PROHIBITED IN, IN THE CITY. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A POST, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD IT ON THE CIVIC CENTER SIGN, UM, OR THE, UM, THE REC CENTER SIDE. 
          BUT IF WE COULD DO, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ON OURS, IF WE COULD DO THOSE TWO SIGNS, UH, HAVING THE SAME MESSAGE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL. 
          I'M TRYING TO JUST GET THAT OUT THERE. 
          SO IT ALLEVIATES THE BURDEN ON, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE NIGHT OF. 
          YEAH. 
          AND UH, I WAS TALKING TO THE CHIEF, UH, POLICE CHIEF ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FIREWORKS AND STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AND, AND, AND I THINK WE DO, UH, IS, IS JUST THAT WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT CONCERNS HIM MORE IS THE CELEBRA CELEBRATORY, THAT WORD FIRING OF GUNS. 
          AND WHAT BOTHERS ME EVEN MORE IS 
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A RECENT POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE SOMEBODY IN, IT WASN'T IN LAKE JACKSON BUT IT WAS A LOCAL CITY, WAS THEY HEARD A PING AND THEN THEY FOUND A NINE MILLIMETER ROUND THAT WAS CLOSE TO THEM. 
          SO A ROUND CAME BY THEM. 
          AND WHAT BOTHERS ME WAS, IS THAT THEIR COMMENT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA WAS, IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FAULT ANYBODY FOR SHOOTING THEIR GUN, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY. 
          IT'S JUST BE CAREFUL. 
          IT'S LIKE, NO, THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T ALLOW, YOU KNOW, GUNS TO BE FIRED IN THE CITY. 
          AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. 
          AND THESE PEOPLE THAT AGAIN, THAT JUST DON'T KNOW, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THAT BULLET LEAVES THAT CHAMBER, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN SOMEWHERE AND UH, IT'S GONNA HIT SOMEBODY OR DAMAGE SOMETHING OR WHATEVER TYPE STUFF. 
          SO IT'S JUST PEOPLE, PEOPLE JUST DON'T THINK, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T THINK, AND IT'S SO, AND AGAIN, I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF WITH THE FIREWORKS IS PEOPLE MOVE INTO OUR AREA AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AGAINST AN ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE'RE EDUCATING PEOPLE AND YES. 
          IS IT GOING TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM? NO, BUT HOPEFULLY IT HELPS. 
          UH, SO, SO IT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S, THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. 
          IT'S AGAINST OUR CITY ORDINANCE TO EVEN OWN THE FIREWORKS AND THE CITY LIMITS. 
          SO IF YOU OWN 'EM, THEY, YOU KNOW, IF AN OFFICER OFFICER CAN CITE YOU, IF, IF THEY SEE 'EM, THEY CAN CITE YOU. 
          SO THE OTHER ITEM, UH, MR. WILSON HAD MENTIONED PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT THREE OF THE FOUR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS ARE UP YES, SIR. 
          HAVE BEEN INSTALLED AND RUNNING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND RUNNING. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH LOCATIONS, BUT, UM, UM, YON, UH, CIRCLE WAY AND, UH, WHICH ONE? THIRD, WHICH IS A THIRD ONE. 
          YON CIRCLE WAY AND DIXIE, IS IT DIX STRIP? I DON'T THINK IT'S DIXIE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THREE OF THE FOUR HAVE BEEN INSTALLED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD JOB. 
          SO YOU GOT, UH, ACTIONS, WHAT'D YOU WRITE DOWN? YOU GOT, UH, I DIDN'T WRITE ANY ACTIONS, UH, DOWN, BUT I'M SURE I HAVE. 
          SO, 
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UH, WELL THE FIRST THING IS WE'LL CLARIFY, WE'LL CHANGE THE LETTER, UH, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S GOING OUT TO MC SQUARED. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL COME BACK, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE, UM, ERIC'S THE ANNUAL HEALTH INSPECTION. 
          LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE WORKLOAD. 
          WORKLOAD OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS, ESPECIALLY HOW MANY ESTABLISHMENTS WE'RE INSPECTING TODAY VERSUS, UH, 2020. 
          I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT, UH, BACK TO YOU. 
          WELL, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S INCREASED. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE HALF YEAR NUMBERS, WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY AT A, UH, PROBABLY 20 MORE INSPECTIONS A YEAR, HALF YEAR. 
          BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU A BETTER BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT IS. 
          YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCKS BIG. 
          I THINK WE HAVE A DIVISION ON, UM, THE TYPE OF, UM, BUS, THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES AND MAYBE WE CAN BREAK IT OUT THAT WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, HEV BEFORE WAS ONLY DOING SMALL PORTIONS. 
          NOW THEY HAVE EXPANDED THERE, THE FOOD, YOU KNOW, PREPARED FOOD AREA. 
          SO IT'S A LOT MORE TAKE TIME. 
          WE WILL, WE WILL BREAK THAT DOWN BY SCHOOLS DAYCARES, UH, ASSISTED LIVING. 
          ANYONE THAT IS DOING THAT IS REGULATED, WE CAN BREAK IT INTO SUBCATEGORIES. 
          SO WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN AND, AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AS WELL AS A WORKLOAD, UH, ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE GROUP. 
          YEAH, IT'D BE CURIOUS JUST TO SEE WHERE THE, THE INCREASE IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE STREETS WERE OAK. 
          UH, CIRCLE A AND Y POND. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU, AGAIN, ON YOUR WORKLOAD, SINCE YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT, YOU, YOU NEED TO GIVE DATA ON WHAT YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT, WHAT THE INCREASES HAVE FOR YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT INCLUDES BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF. 
          'CAUSE YES SIR. 
          PLAN REVIEW. 
          SO YOUR WHOLE, YEAH. 
          ALL YOUR, OKAY. 
          YES SIR. 
          WE'LL DO THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS THOUGH? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SAL, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAL ON CAPITAL PROJECTS? , YOU GOT ANY BURNING INFORMATION YOU NEED TO GIVE US? UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE POURING CONCRETE TOMORROW ALONG WILLOW DRIVE. 
          SO YOU HEAR SOMEBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE, THERE ARE TWO OR THREE LARGE PATCHES THEY'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH. 
          UH, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT BE ON, UH, 12 O'CLOCK. 
          DO I, UH, OKAY. 
          DO I EXPECT THAT? AND, UH, THE, UH, WE RAN THE PUNCH LIST ON THE BEST WESTERN, UH, HOTEL, UH, SYSTEM. 
          AND, UH, IT'S OPERABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET SOME CONSISTENCY ON 
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THE CHARGING OF THAT PARTICULAR UNIT. 
          IT IS CHARGED BY THE, UH, BY SOLAR POWER. 
          AND THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ONE OF THE MODULES THERE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO REPLACE THAT, TRYING TO GET IT TO WORK. 
          WELL, YOU NEED TO PUT A BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEM RIGHT NEXT DOOR FOR BEST WAY. 
          IT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO DO. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE NEED A SEWER STORAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          SEWER. 
          WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SETUP TIME ON THESE PAVER ON THE, WHAT'S THE SET TIME ON THESE PAVERS WHERE WE, WE CONCRETE THE PAVEMENT? HOW LONG IS IT OF THE PAVEMENT? OKAY. 
          IT'LL, YOU KNOW, SET UP TIME. 
          THE TIME THE TOP OF CONCRETE IS A, IS A HIGH, HIGH STRENGTH CONCRETE. 
          SO IT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF THREE DAYS, COULD BE FIVE DAYS, PRIMARY, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHO'S DOING THE WORK? MATULA. 
          HTI IS DOING THE WORK. 
          THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE NOT DOING A BAD JOB AL. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND MATULA DID IS FINISHING UP OF FACT. 
          WE HAVEN'T RUN A, A FINAL PUNCH LIST ON THEIR PORTION AT ATCH, BUT, UH, WE SHOULD BE MOVING ON THAT ONE TOO. 
          THAT'S THE BIGGEST RINGING ENDORSEMENT I'VE HEARD FROM SAL. 
          EVER GIVE A CONTRACTOR , THEY'RE NOT DOING NOT JOB THAT BAD JOB. 
          THEY'RE NOT, NOT DOING A PERFECT JOB WAY. 
          THEY'RE SUPPOSED NOBODY'S PERFECT, INCLUDING ME. 
          THAT'S DESIGNED BY US. 
          NO, . 
          IS EDDIE BACK? NO, SIR. 
          UH, WE ARE EXPECTING HIM TO COME BACK PROBABLY ON THE FIFTH OR SIXTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HE IS NOT PITCHING YET? HE'S NOT PITCHING FOR THE ASTRO. 
          NO. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          I NEED SOME HELP . 
          NO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN, UH, LIGHTS, UH, UM, THAT WAY AND THIS WAY YOU'RE GOING DOWN THAT WAY GOING TOWARDS PARKING WAY ON THE OLD AREA. 
          THAT'S YEAH. 
          BY THE, BY THE, UH, OLD SMITH HEART IN FRONT OF SMITH HART LIGHTS. 
          THE OLD SMITH HEARTS. 
          WELL, YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, THOSE LIGHTS ARE OUT DOWN. 
          ARE THEY? OKAY. 
          WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE TO SEE WHAT IT IS. 
          NOW WHAT TIME DID YOU GO OVER THERE AND LOOK THOSE AT NIGHTTIME? IT'S NIGHTTIME. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, IN THE EVENING, I MEAN, LATE NIGHT, DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON THE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE HO CELLS HAVE BEEN ACTIVATED, IT'S, IT'S LATE. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE VERY LATE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WILL, WE WILL NOTICE THAT AND WE WILL REPORT THAT. 
          I MEAN, EIGHT, NINE, OH, THAT'S AFTER SALES BAD TIME. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE SEND SOMEBODY ELSE OUT THERE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN I STOPPED WORKING HERE. 
          THEN ALSO, UH, UH, THE CORNER OF, ANYWAY, AND TULIP TRAIL, I KNOW IT IS A, UH, LIGHT POLE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I CALL IT, IT'S, IT'S RENAMED AS THE DISCO LIGHT POLE BECAUSE THE MIGHTY KEEPS ON YES. 
          FLASHING. 
          OKAY. 
          EVEN IN THE DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME IT'S, YEAH, THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM. 
          THE LEDI THOUGHT WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT ON CORNER OF YON AND OYSTER DRIVE FLASHING ONE ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE, I NEED TO GET THE LIGHT POLE NUMBER. 
          LET ME YES. 
          A LOT PANEL NUMBERS ARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD, UH, REQUEST SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO TO THEM OR AT LEAST GIMME, UH, WE'LL JOT IT DOWN AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEARCH FOR THOSE OURSELVES. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN, UH, IF YOU I DID THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU CAN TURN THOSE IN ONLINE TO CENTER POINT IF YOU OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S TEXT MY PHONE NUMBER AND THAT'S WHAT DO, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          AND WE USUALLY GET FAST RESPONSES ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE FASTEST WAYS TO, BUT, BUT IF YOU CAN LOOK AT DOWNTOWN RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THOSE, OH, WE LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND SEE WHETHER THEY'RE, ARE THEY STREET LINES OR, OR PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS? BECAUSE IT COULD BE EITHER IT'S OUR STREET LIGHTS. 
          IT IS STREET LIGHTS. 
          THE THE NEW BLACK POLES THAT WE PUT UP. 
          YES. 
          GIRLS. 
          WELL, BOTH OF 'EM BLACK, I MEAN OKAY. 
          BUT IT'S BUT THE TALL, THE TALL THE TALL ONES. 
          OKAY. 
          ONES THE TALL ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE THE PHOTO SALES, THE PROS. 
          I, I, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. 
          I GO THAT WAY. 
          HOME. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, AND I'LL DO THAT. 
          I, I USED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT MILFORD WRITING THAT WAY, BUT HE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE. 
          . 
          HE'S NOT ANYMORE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FOR SAL? ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I LOOK AT IT ON THE WAY HOME. 
          THAT'S THE WAY YOU CAN GO HOME THAT WAY. 
          I'LL DO THAT AT THE END. 
          BRING MELISSA RELEASES ME AT 12 O'CLOCK. 
          I CAN'T LEAVE AND IT'S TOO LIGHT INSIDE. 
          GOTTA, YOU GOTTA DIG A DOLLAR OUTTA YOUR POCKET TO BUY A GALLON OF GAS. 
          WELL, WE CAN'T BUY A GALLON OF GAS FOR A DOLLAR, SO. 
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ALRIGHT, SO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          UH, GO WITH, UH, MR. BUELL. 
          NOTHING, UH, MR. HANYA, COUPLE ITEMS. UH, TALKING ABOUT LIGHTS DOWNTOWN AROUND CHIPS AREA. 
          THAT PART OF A, UH, STREET THERE, THERE'S HARDLY ANY LIGHTS THERE, SO IT'S VERY DARK. 
          I TURNED THAT IN TO MODESTO SOME TIME AGO. 
          AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA LOOK AT UH, UH, OR ALLOTMENT TO PUT MORE STRAITS. 
          A LOT OF CHRIST FROM LOCALS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OVER THERE TOWARD THE WEST WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          TOWARD CHIPS AND STUFF. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE RE THE, A LOT OF THE LOCAL, UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, PARK. 
          AND SO AT NINE O'CLOCK, 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, IT'S PRETTY 
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NASTY. 
          YEAH, WE WERE, ROBIN AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          WE WERE THINKING OF WAITING UNTIL THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT CLOSED OUT AND THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR A CHANGEOVER AND ADDED LIGHTS OF THIS NEW, OF THE NEW LIGHTS ARE INSTALLED. 
          SO THEN IT KIND OF LOOK KIND OF, THEY WOULD GET A MINI UPGRADE OF JUST, OF, OF LIGHTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, THERE IS A CONTAINER SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT AT MAGIC GRIFFITH POOL. 
          IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE. 
          ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT IS OR? YEAH, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S LITTLE LEAGUES. 
          SO WE MOVED IT WHEN WE DUG THE RESURFACED, THE PARKING LOT FOR THE, WHEN WE PUT THE BUILDING IN AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND I'VE CONTACTED THEM ABOUT 12 TIMES AND THEY HAVEN'T MOVED IT YET AND I GOT WITH THEM THE OTHER DAY AND THEN OF COURSE IT RAINS SO MUCH SO BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT IN A NEW LOCATION AND THEY COULDN'T DO IT. 
          IF I HAD SOME WAY TO MOVE IT, IT WOULD BE GONE. 
          NO, IT'S FINE. 
          I JUST, NO, BELIEVE ME. 
          IF I HAD SOMEWHERE TO WAY TO MOVE IT OUT OF THERE. 
          SO YEAH. 
          ANYWAY, WE'RE ON THEM ABOUT THAT CONSTANTLY. 
          WHERE ARE THEY GONNA MOVE IT TO THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LET ME KNOW. 
          SO THE BOARD CHANGED, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE TOLD 'EM WE NEED TO EITHER MOVE IT BACK UP ON THAT SLAB OR THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M NOT REALLY SURE. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          UH, MS. SETH, HAPPY 4TH OF JULY. 
          OH, AND SPEAKING OF THAT, I'M SORRY, UH, MAYOR, UH, 4TH OF JULY. 
          WE WILL RUN GARBAGE SERVICE ON, ON THURSDAY. 
          OKAY, MR. BAKKER. 
          UH, 4TH OF JULY WE HAVE THE, UH, CONCERTS COMING UP AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE FIREWORKS. 
          YEP. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, AS FAR AS ME, SAME THING. 
          CONCERTS, UH, FIREWORKS AND, UH, ONE OF OUR SPONSORS, I KNOW MY COMMUNITY OUT NETWORK IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, UH, DOING STUFF TO EDUCATE AND SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT HEALTHCARE IN THE AREA. 
          AND, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TRINKETS AND STUFF TO HAND OUT AND EVERYTHING, SO THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE A BIG, THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO BE A BIG PART OF THAT, UH, THAT DAY. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, ALSO WANTED TO THANK, UH, COUNCILMAN HANYA FOR TAKING THE EXTRA EFFORT TO WORK WITH, UH, STAFF AND THIS LAST TIME WITH MODESTO AND WALK PAST THE HOUSE TO GET THOSE SIGNATURES. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          MODESTO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? STAFF? STAFF, ANYTHING SIR? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WORDS WE'RE ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          EXCEPT A ROUND OF TOMATOES, TOMATOES.
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