* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] [1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU. HEARING EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO [2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] LOOK AT THE MINUTES. ANY ISSUES? NO MINUTES ARE ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SIGN IT? YEAH. FOUR'S A QUORUM. YEP. TYLER'S NOT HERE, BUT A BAD PENNY. YOU KEEP COMING BACK. . TYLER'S NOT HERE. CAN SOMEBODY ELSE SIGN FOR HIM? YES. YEAH. HARRY, WHY DON'T YOU SIGN? OKAY. ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO SAY THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? NOW IS THE TIME FOR MRS. COMMENTS AND GENERALLY ANYBODY THAT COMES UP TO SPEAK. PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. NUMBER FOUR, [4. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF REPLAT OF THE BRAZOS MALL SUBDIVISION AT 100 W HIGHWAY 332, FILED ON JULY 2, 2024] FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF REPLAY OF THE BRA, SMALL SUBDIVISION AT 100 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32, FILED ON JULY THE SECOND, 2024. PLEASE, UH, COME BACK TO THE PODIUM. HELLO, MY NAME IS BRADEN AND I'M WORKING WITH AXIOM LAND SERVING. UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? I'M HERE TO ANSWER OBJECTION. WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO FOR? SO THEY'RE JUST SEPARATING A, UH, THE PARCEL ON THE FIRST PAGE OR THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE. MM-HMM. . THEY'RE SEPARATING IT OUT FOR A RESTAURANT. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT RESTAURANT, BUT IT'S JUST THEY'RE, UH, SEPARATING THAT UNRESTRICTED RESERVE FROM THE, UH, HOLE BRAZO SMALL SUBDIVISION OR AREA. HOW HAS IT CHANGED FROM LAST MONTH? HOW HAS IT CHANGED FROM LAST MONTH? IT DIDN'T CHANGE AT ALL. OKAY. JUST THE PLANNER COMMISSION WALK. THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT, THE CLEANUP ITEMS THAT OKAY. WE ASKED THEM TO DO AND THIS'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND, UH, IT'S BACK HERE. THIS IS ONE WITH THE ROUND CORNERS. THE ROUND CORNERS THAT, THAT YOU REFERRED TO BEFORE? YES. UH, YES. AND IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, IN MY WRITEUP, I TELL, I SAY THAT AND I NEVER, DID THEY INTRODUCE YOU? UH, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN? NO, I INTRODUCED MYSELF TO THEM. OH, YOU DID ALREADY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. UH, UH, AS I SAID BEFORE, UH, IN MY, IN MY REPORT HERE, IS THAT REALLY THE PLAN REALLY IS VERY SIMPLE. THEY ARE CREATING ANOTHER UNRESTRICTED, UH, TRACK C. THERE WERE OTHER TWO ALREADY THAT WERE EXISTING PREEXISTING. ONE WAS THE OLD, UH, WELL, ONE IS THE DI'S, UH, TRACK, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED. AND, UH, THEN THEY CREATED THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S WHERE THE, NOW THE, UH, THE, THE NEW AREA THAT GOT BUILT, THE NEW SHOPPING AREA THAT GOT BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO, TO THE STARBUCKS AREA. UH, AND THIS MAKES THE THIRD, UH, RESTRICTED, UH, UH, RESTRICTED, UH, UNRESTRICTED, UH, FACT. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY THEY'RE GONNA FACE THE FRONT OF THAT CONSTRUCTION. , IF YOU REMEMBER. WELL, ONE, THERE WAS AN APPROACH BEFORE YOU, ONCE WHERE THEY WANT, THEY WANTED TO PUT IN A JEWELRY STORE. A GENTLEMAN CAME DOWN HERE AND TALKED ABOUT IT, PUTTING IN A JEWELRY STORE THERE, THE SAME PERSON THAT HAS A JEWELRY STORE IN THE MALL ITSELF WANTED TO BUY, UH, BUY THAT PROPERTY. AND HE WAS IN THE, IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS REAL ANXIOUS ABOUT DOING THAT, BUT IT NEVER DID MATERIALIZE. BRADEN, WERE THERE ISSUES SURVEYING? THERE WERE A LOT OF MONUMENTS. WE WENT OUT HERE A FEW TIMES, BUT, UH, NO ISSUES OTHER THAN JUST LIKE HAVING TO COME OUT A FEW TIMES. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, UH, ON THE FIRST PAGE ALONG THE RIVER, IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE ENTIRE PLAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, CORNERS ARE IN THE WATER. SO WE HAD TO BASED OFF THE OLD ONE. SO YOU FAKED MA? NO, NO, NO, NO. IT'S BASED OFF OF THE OLD LIFE. . JEFF, ANYTHING? NO, NOT A THING. THANK YOU, SIR. MATT, PARTY ON, WE HAVE A MOTION. I'M GONNA APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF RELA OF THE BRAZO SMALL SUBDIVISION AT 100 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32, FILED ON JULY 2ND, 2024. MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. GOT TWO SECONDS. PICK A SECOND. [00:05:01] ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK SIR. THESE NEXT TWO WE DON'T NEED TO DO. RIGHT? COME ON, PODIUM AND MAKE THIS DEAL AGAIN. FINAL REVIEW [5. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PLAT AMENDMENT OF LOTS 1, 2 & 7 OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE DRIVE (SLEEPY HOLLOW), FILED ON JULY 2, 2024] AND ACTION OF PLAMEN LOTS. ONE, TWO, AND SEVEN OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE DRIVE. SLEEPY HOLLOW FILED ON JULY. JULY THE SECOND, 2024. AREN'T WE PATRIOTIC TO THIS? YES, WE ARE. IT'S THAT WE, OKAY, SO I'M CYNTHIA ARMSTRONG AND DOLE AND WATT SETTLER DID THE RELAS. NOW I'M HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY ON THE TAX CERTIFICATE. MM-HMM. BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY SAYS I HAVE ZERO ACREAGE. SO I WENT UP THERE AND MET WITH A REAL NICE GUY IN THE MAPPING AREA, AND THEN HI, HIS BOSS CAME OUT AND WE WERE ON THE PHONE WITH DAWN, WITH TRAVIS WATSON. AND, UM, HE, NOW WE'RE WAITING ON FIELD NOTES FROM THEM, AND THEN THE COUNTY WILL APPROVE IT. BUT THE SURVEY GUY'S REAL UPSET BECAUSE HE THINKS SHE DOESN'T NEED IT, BUT THE COUNTY THINKS THEY NEED IT. AND I SAID, WELL, WHY CAN'T I JUST TAKE MY TAX CERTIFICATE AND ADD EVERYTHING UP AND SAY THIS IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I'M WAITING FOR THE COUNTY. AND WHO WON? UM, THE COUNTY'S, I, I'M LEARNING ABOUT POLITICS, . OH YEAH. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BEAT THE COUNTY NO, BY WAY. NO, NO. WELL, IT'S COUNTY OUGHT TO ADJUST THEIR TAXES BASED ON THE AREA. WELL, HERE'S THE DEAL. IF THE COUNTY SAYS, I HAVE LESS THAN WHAT TRAVIS SAYS I HAVE, AND I'M THINKING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD THING. 'CAUSE NOW THEY'RE GONNA TAX IT WORSE. SO THAT'S ALL I KNOW. THE COUNTY'S VERY PARTICULAR IN WHEN YOU'RE FILING A PLANT. MM-HMM. IF THAT PLAT DOESN'T INDICATE THE SAME THING THAT THEIR TAX CERTIFICATE INDICATES THAT THEY WILL NOT FILE. WELL, AND, AND THE COUNTY'S NOT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT THAT. ALL THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS THE FIELD NOTES. WELL, I MEAN THE FIELD NOTES, FIELD NOTES ARE THE BASIS, OR ARE THE BASIS FOR THE ACRES. CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO I'M IN HOLDING PAD IN LIMBO. YES, CORRECT. AND, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE STATED HERE IN OUR REPORT, IS THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING, UH, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH EXCEPT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN HAVING. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO AHEAD IF THEY FEEL LIKE DOING IT TO, TO, UH, APPROVE THAT PLAN PENDING YOU AGAIN, HAVING THAT CORRECTED. OTHERWISE IT'LL NEVER BE FILED ANYWAY, SO, OKAY. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN FILE, THEY CAN SIGN OFF ON THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THEIR WISH IS. AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP ON TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM. OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF Y'ALL SIGN OFF OR NOT. UNTIL I GET THAT TAX CERTIFICATE, I DON'T GET TO PROCEED. RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. BUT IT'S BEST FOR THEM TO SIGN BECAUSE THEY, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO CALL 'EM IN TO COME HERE AND SIGN IT ON THEIR OWN TIME. OH, OKAY. WELL, AND, UH, THEY'RE, I'D APPRECIATE IT IF Y'ALL WOULD. WE'RE HIGH DOLLAR AND WE CAN'T PAY . JEFF, YOU GOT ANYTHING? I THINK WE'VE DONE WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, SO I HAVE NOTHING. THANK YOU, CYNTHIA. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. YEAH, NO. OKAY, THANKS. NO, YOU'RE NOT DONE. OH, I'M NOT, NO. OH, THERE'S BEEN NO MOTIONS. WE SAW THE VOTE. YEAH. WE COULD ALL SAY NO, JUST MAGICALLY, BUT I'M WEARING RED, WHITE, BLUE. AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS JULY 2ND. YOU'D THINK MY DAUGHTER WOULD CATCH ON TO THAT WITH HER BIRTHDAY BEING THURSDAY, BUT SHE HASN'T NOTICED UNTIL JUST NOW. OH NO, I SAW IT. OH, 16 YEARS OLD. ALRIGHT, DO HAVE A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, GIVE FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE PLAT AMENDMENT OF LOTS. ONE, TWO, AND SEVEN OF THE ARMSTRONG SUBDIVISION AT 90 VAN WINKLE STREET. UH, SLEEPY HOLLOW FILE ON JULY THE SECOND, 2024. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. YOU ARE WELCOME. ADMINISTRATIVE FINAL [6. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF REPLAT OF LOT 2A, BLOCK 2, AMENDING CORRECTION TO LOT 4A, BLOCK 2 OF THE AMENDED PLAT OF A 20-FT ALLEY IN THE SLEEPY HOLLOW SUBDIVISION, FILED ON JULY 2, 2024] REVIEW AND ACTION. REPLAY OF LOT TWO, A BLOCK TWO AMENDING CORRECTION OF LOT TO LOT FOUR A BLOCK TWO, THE AMENDED PLAT OF 20 FOOT ALLEY AND THE SLEEPY HOLLOW SUBDIVISION FILED ON JULY THE SECOND, 2024. OKAY, THIS ONE IS MY DOING IS ONE THAT, UH, GOT BY US BACK, BACK IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO REVIEWS. [00:10:02] UH, IT WAS, IT IS AN OLD PLA IT WAS A PLA FOR, WE RETURNED A, A, UH, 10 FOOT, A 20 FOOT ALLEY BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AT THAT TIME. AND, UH, SO WE DIVIDED UP THAT ALLEY, SPLIT IT IN HALF, GAVE ONE SIDE TO THE, UH, ADJACENT LOT, AND THE OTHER ONE TO OF COURSE THE OPPOSITE ONE. UH, AND THAT WENT ALONG FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UNTIL RECENTLY, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE LOTS SOLD AND THE PALLET COMPANY SAW THAT THERE WAS A, AN ERROR IN THE, IN THE PLANT ITSELF. THERE WERE TWO LOT FOUR A BLOCK TWOS INDICATED IN THAT BLOCK. AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION. THAT WHAT WE CALL THE SURVEYORS CALL IT SCRIVENER ERROR, WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS YOUNG MAN KNOWS DOES THAT. BUT, UH, WHICH IS AN ERROR IN THE ACTUAL, UH, UH, LABELING, THE WRITTEN PORTION. SO, UH, WE DID, WE SAID, WE TOLD THE, UH, THE, UH, TITLE COMPANY THAT WE WOULD MAKE THAT CORRECTION, UH, YOU KNOW, SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED AND, UH, THE PROPERTY CLOSED, UH, THEY WENT AHEAD AND CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY. AND NOW WE ARE FINISHING UP ON OUR SIDE MAKING THAT CORRECTION. AND THAT IS THE BLOCK LOT TWO, BLOCK TWO, THE ONE THAT'S UNDERSCORED, OR IT'S IN DARKENED, UH, BOUNDARY LINES. WE ARE RETURNING THAT, UH, SMALL PORTION OF THE ALLOT ITSELF TO A DIFFERENT NAME. WE'RE CALLING THAT LOT TWO A, A BLOCK TWO. AND THAT'S ALL IT IS. IS THAT CORRECT? THE WHOLE STRIP NOW? OR NO, IT JUST CORRECTS THAT ONE. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY FENCE LINES INVOLVED? IT, I MEAN, IF THERE ARE THAT THEY HAVEN'T MOVED SINCE THEN? NO. THEY, I MEAN THEY GOT OWNERSHIP OF THE, OF THE YEAH. OF THE PROPERTIES. BUT WHETHER THEY MOVED THE FENCE LINES BACK THEN, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US TO VOTE TO FIX YOUR MISTAKE? UH, NO, IT WASN'T MY MISTAKE. IT WAS THE SECRETARY, CITY SECRETARY. OH YEAH, YEAH. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. PUT IT. THEY DIDN'T PUT IT IN. PUT IT IN THE AGENDA. . IS THIS THE ONLY PLACE IN TOWN WE HAD ALLEYS IN THE PAST OR? OH, NO. LAID OUT ALLEYS. WE REALLY DON'T APPROVE ALLEYS ANYMORE. THERE ARE ALLEYS, ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR, FOR SERVICE PURPOSES, MAINTENANCE PURPOSES, BUT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE STILL THE CITIES AND THEY JUST SERVE THE, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UH, THERE WAS AN ALLEY, THERE ARE ALLEYS CREATED DOING, UH, PERS UH, PLANT UNIT RESIDENTIAL ZONES. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UH, THE TIMBER CREEK, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION AT TIMBER CREEK? IN TIMBER CREEK? YES. WHERE THE, THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT'S PLUS, UH, THERE ARE ALLEYS THAT ARE BEING CREATED, BUT PRIMARILY OH, I KNOW ABOUT THAT. ALRIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. AND THOSE WERE PRIMARILY FOR, AGAIN, FOR WASTE COLLECTION FROM US. OF COURSE, THEY ALSO USE IT FOR THEIR DRIVEWAY. YEAH. THROUGH THEIR BACK GARAGES. AND, UH, THE SAME THING HOLDS FOR THE, UH, TOWNHOUSES AT THE TIMBER CREEK, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. SO YES, THERE ARE ALLEYS, BUT THOSE ARE NOT CITY ALLEYS, PUBLIC ALLEYS ANYMORE. AND THAT'S WHY WE TURNED THIS . AT LEAST NONE OF THESE ARE THOSE NATURAL AREAS THAT THEY'VE TRIED TO PRESERVE IN THE PAST AND NO ONE MAINTAINED THEM AND TREES FELL DOWN. WELL, WE CALL, YEAH. WHAT WE CALL, YEAH, WE CALL 'EM THE BUFFER, THE BUFFER AREAS, THE GREEN AREAS THAT NEVER WORK. THEY, THEY'RE WASTE COLLECTORS, NOT WASTE COLLECTION. OKAY. THIS HADN'T HAD THAT PROBLEM. SO, YEAH, NO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, I MEAN, ALLEYS ARE USEFUL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN FREEPORT. THAT'S ALL THERE ARE. OH YEAH. YES. A LOT OF THEM. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW PEOPLE GET, UH, SERVICE AND THE WASTE COLLECTION GOES THROUGH AND SANTAS AND WATERS ARE THERE AND UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE USEFUL. REALLY? I LIKE MINE IN TIMBER CREEK. YOU DO HAVE ONE OVER THERE. MM-HMM. . ANYTHING ELSE JILL? NO, THANK YOU HARRY. NO. WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF RE PLAT OF LOT TWO, A BLOCK TWO AMENDING CORRECTION TO LOT FOUR A BLOCK TWO OF THE AMENDED PLAT OF A 20 FOOT ALLEY IN THE SLEEPY HOLLOW SUBDIVISION FILED ON JULY 2ND, 2024. WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? [00:15:01] AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SAL. SO WE'VE GOT CINDY'S [7. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS] DOCUMENTS TO SIGN. MM-HMM? . YES, WE HAVE THAT. AND WE HAVE THE, UH, THE MALL. THE MALL. WE HAVE THIS OTHER SLEEPING MALL. WE HAVE THREE. OKAY. OKAY. OVER THERE. KIM. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? [8. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] JEFF, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU. HERE. NO, MATT? NO, I'M GOOD. OUR NEW COUNSEL. LIAISON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE. I KIND OF LIKE SITTING ON THIS SIDE OF THE DESK. . MUCH LESS PRESSURE. . SO, UH, ANYWAYS FROM RON. I'M RHONDA, SETH, I'M YOUR, UH, COUNCIL LIAISON AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING AND SEEING WHAT YOU GUYS, UM, DO OVER HERE. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, UH, A VERY INTRICATE PART OF HOW OUR CITY'S LAID OUT AND HOW IT WORKS. UH, SO I'M PRETTY EXCITED TO, TO KIND OF LEARN. UH, THE OTHER THING IS IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO FROM YOU, FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, UH, OR ANY INFORMATION THAT I CAN GIVE YOU FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UH, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT. EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL. IT'S ALL ON MY CARD. I'LL PUT YOU GUYS ONE. UM, BUT ANYTHING I NEED OR Y'ALL NEED, LET ME KNOW. UM, DON'T FORGET, 4TH OF JULY IS COMING UP. WE'VE GOT FIREWORKS AND WE'VE GOT THE, UH, CONCERT SERIES, THE FINAL ONES COMING UP FOR 4TH OF JULY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. I THOUGHT SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT AS I DROVE BY THE OLD HEB. YES SIR. WHERE THEY WERE. THIS FELLOW WAS CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING PROPER TAXES. SO NOW THAT THING HADN'T BEEN USED AT ALL. AND SO THAT S**T, S**T ALL OVER AGAIN. WAIT, WHERE? IT'S THE ONE WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT AN INDOOR STORAGE, THEY WERE GONNA HAVE STORAGE INSIDE THERE. WE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT SALES TAX COLLECTION, RIGHT. OR ANY KIND OF YEAH. RIGHT UP BUTTS UP AGAINST THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA RIGHT THERE. PART OF THE CONCERN. YEAH. WHEN THEY BOUGHT, BUILT THOSE HOUSES AND MOVED IN. IT WAS AN ACTING HEB WITH STINKY GARBAGE. YEAH. THEN IT WOULD JUST BE A AIR CONDITIONED STORAGE PLACE. WHICH WOULD BE, AND THE, THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I THOUGHT WE HEARD WAS THE EVERYONE ELSE COMPLAIN, COMPLAINING THAT THEY HAD TO PAY SALES TAX AND THAT GROUP WOULDN'T. I MEAN WE HAD ONE NEIGHBOR COMING IN, A LOT OF THOSE TAXES COMING INTO THE CITY, WHICH HAS NO ABILITY TO EXPAND AND DO MUCH TO BUILD ANYMORE. YEAH. YEAH. OH, WELL, I MEAN CERTAINLY ON THE INTERESTING, WHEN COMES UP THE COUNCIL AGENDA, I'M VERY INTERESTED, UM, TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE YEAH. WE ALL WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THE, WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. YEAH. AND UH, WHEN HE GETS TO HEAR FROM US, YOU KNOW WHAT WE FEEL LIKE , THAT'S WHERE I, I'M ALL FOR THIS. WE KNOW. YEAH. TALL. SO, UH, YEAH, IT'S, UH, THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN STARTING MY FOURTH YEAR AND IT'S JUST, YOU TRY TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH INFORMATION YOU HAVE. SO THE MORE INFORMATION I HAVE, THE HAPPIER I'M, AND I WILL SAY THIS, YOU'RE VERY FORTUNATE. I THINK PROBABLY WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IN THIS ONE, LIKE HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON THIS? I DON'T EVEN KNOW. . I STARTED IN 2007. I GOT OFF ONE YEAR AND THEN GOT BACK ON HARRY'S BEEN ON AND OFF OF IT. MATT, WELL BACK 2007. I DIDN'T EVER LEAVE. I I HAD IT. MATT, ONE'S YOU'VE BEEN ON NOW SIX YEARS ON THIS COUNCIL. UH, FOUR GOING ON FIVE. IT CAME FROM TRAFFIC COMMISSION. HE CAME TRAFFIC. YEAH, HE CAME FROM TRAFFIC AFTER DOING THE UH, THE, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW AND THE GOOD THING I THINK THAT HELPS, THE THING THAT I HELPS THINK HELPS COUNCIL IS WHEN THEY'RE DOING STUFF, OBVIOUSLY WITH SAL WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED, RIGHT. THAT WOULD BRING UP AND AS SOMEBODY I FEEL LIKE NEWER TO COUNSEL, I MEAN I KNOW I'VE USED UH, PICKED MAKI'S BRAIN A LOT FOR THAT EXACT, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF LIKE, OKAY, WE HAD THIS ORDINANCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHAT STARTED THE CONVERSATION FIRST TO HAVE THIS ORDINANCE. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT IN KIND OF KEEPING US ON THE RIGHT TRACK AS A STUDY. WELL I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLING TO SERVE AND HELP US OUT. I KNOW EARLY ON IN MAYBE YOUR FIRST TERM, YOU, WE WERE GONNA MEET AND TALK 'CAUSE YOU WANTED TO ASK ABOUT PLANNERS 'CAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT INTRIGUED YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE SERVED A LOT OF THINGS WITH YOUR PROFESSION THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF BENEFIT AND EXPERTISE TO HELP. BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THERE SINCE YEAH. THEY SAID VINAY HAD NEEDED TO STAND DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US TO ROTATE AROUND. ABSOLUTELY. UM, I THINK AMERICA IMPORTANT. I SAT ON CHARTER FOR A COUPLE TIMES BECAUSE WE LEARN A LOT IN CHARTER. MATT AND I HAVE DONE THAT. . THAT WAS FUN. LAST TIME I DID CHARTER. OH YEAH, YEAH. I FORGOT. YEAH, WE WERE ON IT TOGETHER. YEAH, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT. I WAS ON CHARTER AND IT WAS SAYING THERE WAS A HEALTH, UH, INSPECTION EVERY MONTH AND I COULDN'T FIGURE . IT WASN'T TRUE, BUT NO, [00:20:01] NO. WE OTHER THING I, THE OTHER THING I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS, THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY YES. THAT Y'ALL CAN HAVE SINCE YOU HAVE THE TERM LIMITS. SO THANK YOU. WAY YOU HAVE ANY CONTINUITY FROM THAT IS YOU GO FROM COUNCIL TO CONTINUING TO, TO PARTICIPATE AS A CITIZEN. YOU KNOW, I SPENT A YEAR JUST COMING TO THE MEETING AS A CITIZEN BEFORE I RAN THIS COUNCIL. AND UH, THAT HELPED ME A LOT GET, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING WHAT DIRECTION WE WERE GOING AND WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO THAT CONTINUITY I THINK VERY IMPORTANT. YEAH. WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR SPENDING YOUR TUESDAY NIGHT. THAT HERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SURVEYS. I APPRECIATE IT. ONE DAY, SAL GET US PAID OR AT LEAST GET HIS ICE CREAM . IS HE STILL TELLING ALL THAT? EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. THANK YOU. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. SOME OF OUR MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCITING THAN PLANTS. . I DON'T MIND THIS, THIS, THIS WAS A BA THIS WAS A, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXCITING. I THOUGHT WE HAD TDC COMING IN TONIGHT. NEXT WEEK. I MEAN NEXT MONTH, NEXT MONTH. YOU GUYS GOTTA COME. AND I DID HEAR THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY SOLD AGAIN. THE UH, ALL THE, YEAH, ALL THE LAKES. I HEAR IT'S GONNA BE A CONDOMINIUMS AND A SOLAR FARM. IS THAT TRUE SAL? WE ARE HEARING ALL TIMES. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. WE'RE HEARING ALL TYPES OF THAT. AND REMEMBER, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ON HERE A LONG TIME IN TWO, WHEN IT WAS DONE, I SAID WHOEVER BUYS IT, IT'S A PREDILECTION OF CATASTROPHE. OH YEAH. ECONOMICALLY. BECAUSE LAST TIME THEY DID OR STARTED BEFORE THE 2008 DOWNTURN. YEAH. LAST TIME THEY WERE IN HERE IT WAS BEFORE COVID. COVID. YEAH. . YEAH, . I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT SOLAR FARM THAT'S UH, YEAH, WITH TURKISH EQUIPMENT. THEY BROUGHT UP THAT. YEAH, CORRECT. . THERE'S A PRETTY BIG ONE BY THE COUNTY JAIL. YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, OH STO ALMOST WALKED AWAY WITH A PRETTY PENNY IF YOU WOULD'VE SOLD THE REST OF HIS PROPERTY TO HIM. THAT'S A BIG OLD ONE OVER THERE. I'M SURE HE IS GETTING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. OH, NO DOUBT. . IT IS. THAT'S A BIG ONE OVER THERE. AND THEN THE ONE THEY BUILT UP THERE NORTH, UH, TOWARDS UH, GEORGE RANCH. YEAH. BUT THEY'RE ALL BUILDING OFF THAT SAME TRANSMISSION LINE BECAUSE THAT COAL PLANT UP THERE, THEY GOT SEVEN UNITS RUNNING RIGHT NOW. OH. THEY'RE GONNA DOWNGRADE TO TWO NATURAL GAS UNITS. THEY'RE NOT GONNA ROLL COAL PLANTS ANYMORE THERE. OH, EXACTLY. SO THEY'RE ALL TAGGING ONTO THOSE, ALL THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES. 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS PUTTING POWER ON THE GRID. WELL THEY GOT A WHOLE WHAT, 118 MILE TRANSMISSION LINE GOING DOWN HERE BASICALLY. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BUYING ALL THE PROPERTY WITHIN FIVE, SIX NAUTICAL MILE. NOT NAUTICAL, BUT IT COULD VERY WELL BE. YEAH. OH IT IS BOX ON ERCOT. I GET TO HEAR ABOUT IT. ANYTHING COMMUNITY INTEREST FROM YOU? THEY PAY TAXES A LOT. A LOT. GOOD. JULY FIREWORK AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY CONCERT. ARE YOU TALKING TO HER, CINDY? SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. BUT I, I WOULD'VE SAID THE SAME THING. 4TH OF JULY. WATERMELONS GOT TO TODAY. JACK USED TO PROVIDE 'EM FREE. DO Y'ALL NOW I REMEMBER THAT. I REMEMBER THAT. AND THEY NEVER INVITED HIM TO BE IN THE JUNIOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR SOME REASON. AND I THINK HE RESENTED THAT. WHAT WAS THAT? ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE NOTICED AROUND HERE SINCE YOU'RE FRESH POINT OF VIEW? I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE TWICE ACTUALLY EVER. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME. IF YOU'RE IN THE SURVEYING BUSINESS, YOU YOU'RE GONNA BE DRIVING DOWN THE ROADS, YOU SEE STUFF. WE WON'T GET MAD IF YOU POINTED OUT WE NEED, WE NEED THE INPUT BROTHER. 'CAUSE WE DRIVE AROUND EVERY DAY AND SEE THE SAME THINGS AND WE FORGET ABOUT STUFF. IF YOU HAVE A FRESH, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING YOU'RE HELPING US GO AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE AND WE'RE ALL COOL WITH THAT. I MEAN, I COULD NOTICE ANYTHING. IT'S LIKE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE HOUSTON. OH YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE ZONES UNLIKE HOUSTON, WE HAVE ZONING, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T ALLOW HIGH RISES NEXT TO THE RESTAURANT, NEXT TO THE HOSPITAL, NEXT TO THE, BUT WE ARE LIKE HOUSTON. WE HAD A MURDER WHAT? LAST WEEK? THAT'S A, THAT'S IT IS DAILY UP THERE. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DAILY UP THERE. HOW'S OUR ENGINEERING STAFF? WHERE IS THE ENGINEERING STAFF? WHERE IS OUR FRIEND AT? WHY HAS HE BEEN HIDING THE PAST THREE MEETINGS? HE'S NO WAY. HE'S GOT THAT MUCH VACATION TIME. IS EDDIE STILL WORKING FOR HE'S STILL ON. I DON'T REALLY KNOW TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. EDDIE. EDDIE WANTED TO GET OFF THE, OFF THE, THE ACTIVE PAYROLL OR THE ACTIVE WORK LIST DURING THE WHOLE SYCAMORE PINE OR HE GOT, HE HE GOT JEALOUS WHEN, WHEN NICOLE CAME IN. I MEAN, THAT'S ALL, THAT WAS THE GAME OVER ALL THE, ALL THE, ALL THE SHINE AND JUST GIVE HIM OFF. NO, HE KEEPS COMING IN AND I'M GIVING SOME GUIDANCE. , HE'S, HE'S STILL WITH US. . NO, HE SAID HE IS GOING FOR ANOTHER CHECKUP. YEAH. TOMORROW AS A MATTER OF FACT. AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL FINALLY GIVE HIM THE UH, HOPE HE'S DOING WELL. YEAH, WELL HE SEEMS TO BE DOING WELL. HE JUST IS A GRANDFATHER. HE RELEASED ANY OF HIS GRANDFATHER ALIVE. . ANY ANYTHING FOR YOU ON COMMUNITY? ANYTHING? WHAT'S THAT? ANY COMMUNITY INTEREST THINGS FOR YOU? I CAN'T THINK OF ANY SPECIFIC, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON, SO THERE'S QUESTIONS ON SPECIFIC ONES. ONCE YOU'VE NOTICED WE'VE GOT INPUT, BUT ANY UPDATE [00:25:01] ON THE GARLAND, UH, PROJECT, THOSE TOWN HOMES THAT ALL BOYS STOPPED, DIED IN THE VINE. UH, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE, UH, YOUR FAVORITE, UH, YOUR FAVORITE DEVELOPMENT OVER HERE ON ATCH. THAT, UM, THEY HAVEN'T CALLED FOR THE FINAL ON THAT ONE EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING'S ALREADY COMPLETE AND FINISHED. WHY WERE THOSE ROADS BLOCKED FOR SO LONG? CON AND ALL THAT HAD, THAT WAS US. WE MADE, WE MADE REPAIRS ON THE, WE MADE PATCH REPAIRS, WHAT WE CALL SPOT REPAIRS. UH, WE USED, UH, CDBG FUNDS. UH, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE COULD USE IT. AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO FIX SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, SEVERELY DETERIORATED ROADS. UH, EVEN THOUGH THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENTION BY THE CITY. UH, UH, WHEN THEY FIRST DEVELOPED, DO YOU REMEMBER THEY CAME BEFORE YOU? THAT GENTLEMAN OVER THERE AND HE BROUGHT, WHEN HE WAS PUT ON A, WHEN HE WAS QUESTIONED WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS GONNA DO ANYTHING TO THAT ROAD, HE SAID NOT IF YOU MAKE ME DO THAT, I WILL NOT DEVELOP. YEP. YEP. I REMEMBER THAT. I REMEMBER THAT. I REMEMBER THAT QUITE VIVIDLY. I WISH WE'D HAVE CALLED HIS BLUFF ON THAT ONE. YEAH. YEAH. WELL NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HOPE THAT, I MEAN, WISH THEY WOULD'VE DONE THAT. YES. UM, WE TRIED, BUT NOW THAT IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, AND TRY TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT, WE WENT OUT THERE AND MADE THOSE REPAIRS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY HELPS THEM, BUT IT ALSO HELPS ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, BLOCK. HOW MANY PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT. WHAT ABOUT WILLOW? WHAT'S THE RO WE'RE ALSO DOING THAT ON WILLOW TODAY. WE DID, UH, HALF OF THE REPAIRS ON WILLOW. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL SIDE. UH, WE WAITED ALL THIS TIME SO THAT SCHOOL WOULD BE OUT AND EVERYTHING, BUT STILL WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING, YOU KNOW, LITTLE BIT ROUGH FOR THE CHURCH, FOR THE CHURCH PEOPLE, UH, SCHEDULE. HAS THAT GOING THROUGH THE SUMMER OR NO? NO, NO. WE'RE HOPING THIS THING WILL GO, YOU KNOW, IN TWO WEEKS TIME. THREE WEEKS AT THE MOST. SO, UH, STILL GOT THAT PANEL ON WHICH CREEK DRIVE THAT CLUNKS. WE'RE STILL, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THAT, THAT'S PART OF THAT GROUP THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT REPAIR. BUT THEY'RE GONNA FINISH ON WILLOW AND THEN MOVE ON TO THAT, THAT FLOPPING, UH, AREA THERE ON ALSO CREEK DRIVE. ANYTHING ELSE? SO, NO, NO. WE ARE JUST, UH, WE'RE STILL CONTINUING ON CONSTRUCTION ON THE NORTH SHADY OAKS, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT STREETS AND ALL THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THAT GENERAL AREA. IT'S ADVANCING WELL EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LITTLE BIT CUMBERSOME, A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING ON VERY NARROW CONDITIONS AND A LOT OF DRAINAGE WORK GOING ON. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT OF THAT, UH, OF THAT FACE OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. TO ASSUME THAT WE ACTUALLY STARTING ON THE CONCRETE PAVING WORK, WHICH IS WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO SEE THE COAL MIGHT GET, UH, TRIAL BY FIRE. THIS BARREL COMES IN AND DUMPS A LOT ON US. OH, SHE, SHE KNOWS. SHE'S FROM, SHE'S FROM PENNSYLVANIA. SHE KNOWS WHAT HURRICANES ARE ALL ABOUT. . NO NATURAL BUSTERS THERE. ANY UH, ANYBODY LOOKING TO MOVE INTO RED LOBSTER YET? WE KNOW OF BESIDES TUDORS . YOU SAW YOU'RE COMING UP WITH THAT THING TOO? I'M, I'VE SEEN IT. I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES. IT WAS NOT AN AI GENERATED PICTURE. THEY ARE, THEY WERE. THEY TOOK IT ALL OFF NOW. BUT AT ONE POINT IN TIME THEY WERE TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR LAKE JACKSON LOCATION. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. UH, WELL, I MEAN I HEARD ABOUT IT BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS. AND THEN THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I CAN FIGURE THEN WHEN THIS GENTLEMAN'S UH, YOU KNOW, PROJECT CAME IN THERE, SAID MAYBE THEY WERE GONNA BE DOING ONE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? I DON'T KNOW MAN. SALLY, WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? UH, TUESDAY, AUGUST THE SIXTH. THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING WHEN I GOT A CHECK YOUR CALENDAR EVENT CALENDAR INVITE FROM YOU. I THOUGHT THAT WAS QUITE IMPRESSIVE. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA START SENDING THEM OUT LIKE THAT NOW. I GOT TWO OF THEM 'CAUSE I HAVE MINE IN THERE AND YOURS IN THERE. OH, OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL START GETTING A CALENDAR INVITE SO THAT WAY YOU CAN MARK YOUR CALENDAR. IT KIND OF HELPS REMIND PEOPLE. SURE. SOMETIMES PEOPLE, I LIKED HOW POLITELY WE WERE INVITED TO COME TO OUR MEETING. ME AUGUST 6TH. THERE WAS A PICTURE ON FACEBOOK. MY WIFE SHOWED ME, UH, TONIGHT ABOUT A BUCKY'S THAT WAS ON FIRE. OH, BUCKY'S ON, ON HIGHWAY. YEAH. THE OLD LING BUILDING IS THE ONE THAT THEY'RE DEMO DEMOING. FORTUNATELY. . I WAS THE LAST AT THAT BUCKY'S THE WEEK BEFORE THEY OPENED THE NEW ONE. AND THE OLD ONE WAS JUST AWFUL BECAUSE THEY SEE LIKE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE [00:30:01] TRYING TO FINISH UP MORE THAN THEY NORMALLY DID. NO, IT WAS, I MEAN THE PEOPLE WERE NICE BUT JUST GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE. NO, YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T MOVE ANYWHERE. YEAH. AND UH, SO THEY OPEN NEW ONE. YEAH. OPEN WORLD'S LARGEST BUCKIES UNTIL THE NEXT WORLD'S LARGEST PLACE. . I THOUGHT KENTUCKY HAD BEEN THE LARGEST. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS LOU LULING WILL ALWAYS BE THEIR FLAGSHIP. ESPECIALLY SINCE HE GOT ALL THE PROPERTY BEHIND HIM FROM THE STATE PARK. NOW HE GOT NINE, HE GOT NINE MORE ACRES FROM THE STATE PARK WHERE BEHIND THAT LULING LOCATION. OH DO AT THE PALMETTO STATE PARK. HE GOT NINE MORE ACRES FROM HIM RIGHT AS HE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEW LOCATION. SO IT AIN'T GONNA SLOW DOWN ANY DAY SOON. WELL NO WONDER THE GOVERNOR CAME TO THE OPENING. YEAH, WELL YOU KNOW HE WORKS FOR HIM TOO, YOU KNOW. APPOINTED. YEAH. ALRIGHT, WE GOT STUFF TO SIGN. MEETING'S ADJOURNED. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.