Aug 05, 2024 City Council

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, THAT IS VISITING THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING WITH COUNSEL THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA BEING CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA IS ANYBODY THAT HAS ANYTHING LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALL STAFF OR CONSULTANTS.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA DO DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THIS IS WHERE OPPORTUNITY WHERE ANY MEMBER ON SIT ON THE COUNCIL CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM, AGAIN, ON A CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONFLICT TO DECLARE? ALL

[CONSENT AGENDA]

NOT HEARING AID.

WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I'LL TRY TO ABBREVIATE THESE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS LONGER THAN THE REGULAR AGENDA, AGAIN, ARE PRETTY CLOSE.

UH, ITEM ONE IS APPROVED MINUTES OF JULY, UH, 11TH, JULY 15TH, AND JULY 25TH.

UH, ITEM TWO IS ACCEPT BOARD AND COMMISSION MINUTES, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONS.

UH, SIX, UH, 4 24.

AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM THREE AWARD, ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO THOMPSON CONSULTING SERVICES FOR DISASTER DEBRIS MANAGEMENT AND MONITORING FOR THE PRICE ADJUSTMENT OF 3.5%.

ITEM FORWARD IS WAR ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO, UH, FOR CHLORINE AND SUOR DIOXIDE TO P-V-S-D-X INC.

UH, FOR $1 AND, UH, 27 7 CENTS.

IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

PER POUND, UM, FOR ONE POUND, UH, ONE TON CHLORINE, LI CHLORINE.

AND THEN, UH, WE'LL DO, THIS IS THIS WAY FOR, UH, FOR, UH, $1.

AND SO FOR ONE POUND CHLORINE, UH, LI CHLORINE, IT'S, UH, $1.96 PER POUND.

THAT'S BETTER FOR 150 POUND LIQUID CHLORINE CYLINDERS.

AND, UH, 0.9395, UH, DOLLARS PER POUND FOR, UH, ONE TON OF SUFF NOT TO EXCEED 375,000, UH, AS BUDGETED.

ITEM FIVE IS A ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO LANDSCAPE PROFESSIONALS OF TEXAS FOR, UH, PARK MOWING.

GROUP ONE, NOT TO EXCEED $40,866 AS BUDGETED.

ITEM SIX, AWARD, ONE YEAR CONTRACT TO SCOTT AND COMPANY, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, DBA OF SOUTHERN OAK SERVICES, LLC FOR, UH, PARK MOWING GROUP, UH, TWO, UH, THROUGH SIX, NOT TO EXCEED, NOT EXCEEDING $374,518 AS BUDGET AND AWARD, ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION TO HD, UH, SUPPLY FACILITIES MAINTENANCE, UH, LIMITED, UM, FOR A UTILITY, UH, SUPPLY AGREEMENT, NOT EXCEEDING 140,000 AS BUDGETED.

ITEM EIGHT AWARD CONTRACT TO FENCING AND UNLIMITED FOR REPLACING THE FENCING ON THE DANNY WEBB GIRLS SOFTBALL FIELD.

UH, FIELDS, UH, THE BAR FIELD AT MCLEAN PARK TO, UH, FENCING UNLIMITED NOT TO EXCEED $242,204

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AS BUDGETED.

ITEM NINE, I CANCEL THE PURCHASE OF A GMC UH, CAB CHASSIS FOR FROM, UH, CLASSIC CHEVROLET.

ITEM 10 APPROVED PURCHASE OF A NEW AMBULANCE CHASSIS CAB CHASSIS WITH, UH, PATIENT COMPARTMENT REMOUNT FROM MAC HEIGHT THROUGH HGAC CONTRACT.

AM, UH, 10 23, NOT EXCEEDING $141,100 IS BUDGETED.

ITEM 11, RATIFY THE EMERGENCY CLEARING CONTRACT WITH, UH, LANDER INDUSTRIES LLC, UH, WITH, UH, SERVPRO, UH, FOR THE CIVIC CENTER LIBRARY AND THE MUSEUM DUE TO HURRICANE, UH, BOROUGH, UH, IN THE AMOUNT, NOT EXCEEDING $225,000.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOW, I'LL TAKE MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF CONSENT, AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH 11.

SECOND, WE HAVE A COUN, UH, MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HANYA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE, NEW NEWGEN PRESENTATION FOR FISCAL YEAR, UH, 25 UTILITY RATES.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

[1. New Gen Presentation for FY25 utility rates. – James Bryson/Matthew Garret]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

TONIGHT WE HAVE MATTHEW GARRETT FROM NEWGEN HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND DO A PRESENTATION ON THE UTILITY RATES PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.

SNEAK BEHIND YOU THERE.

THANKS, JAMES.

HI, HOWDY.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MATTHEW GARRETT WITH NUGEN STRATEGIES AND SOLUTIONS.

UH, GLAD TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, SHARING RESULTS.

I THINK YOU MAY HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS, SO IF YOU SEE SOMETHING FAMILIAR, UH, WE PUT THAT RIGHT UP FRONT.

UH, WANNA START WITH THE END IN MIND.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER A QUICK, UH, OBJECTIVE OF THIS STUDY, RIGHT? WHAT WERE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? CLEARLY, WE HAVE TO MEET OUR RISING COST.

WE ADDITIONALLY HAVE ABOUT 20 MILLION OF EXPECTED, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, COMING FORWARD.

AND WE ACTUALLY, YOU'LL SEE THAT IS IN MULTIPLE YEARS.

UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA SHOW YOU HOW YOUR CURRENT RATES PERFORM.

OF COURSE, UM, IF WE'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE, IT'S BECAUSE THE CURRENT RATES DON'T WORK, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT NONETHELESS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO MEET KEY FINANCIAL TARGETS.

IT'S MORE THAN PAYING THE BILLS YEAR TO YEAR.

WE DON'T WANNA OPERATE AT A ZERO BALANCE.

AND SO WE'VE MAINTAINED OUR KEY PERFORMANCE RATIOS THROUGH THE COURSE OF A FIVE YEAR PROJECTION AS WELL.

THAT SAID, SOME KEY ASSUMPTIONS.

SO THIS IS KIND OF THE DEEPEST DIVE UNDER THE HOOD I'M GONNA GIVE YOU.

SO BELOW THE SURFACE OF ALL YOUR BUDGETED LINES, OUR INFLATION FACTORS AND EVERY ACCOUNT DETAIL THAT YOUR CITY STAFF AND I WENT THROUGH, UH, BUT WE DID PUT IN SOME GENERAL INFLATION FACTORS AKIN TO THE MUNICIPAL COST INDEX.

SO THAT'S, YOU'LL SEE 3.13 FOR CAPITAL ITEMS. WE ASSUME IT'S GONNA GROW A LITTLE FASTER AT 3.3%.

THAT'S BASED ON THE ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.

AS YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER APPROVALS, PROBABLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, CAPITAL WENT CRAZY.

THINGS ARE COMING BACK AND WE'RE THINKING, WE UNDERSTAND TODAY'S DOLLARS.

NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE ASSUME IT'S BACK TO NORMAL.

AND SO WE MADE THAT ASSUMPTION AS WELL.

SALARY INCREASES, YOU'LL SEE WE'VE ASSUMED 5%.

THEN GENERAL INFLATION AFTER FISCAL 25, UH, WE DO HAVE THE RATES GOING UP FROM BRAZOSPORT.

UH, YOU'LL SEE FROM 4 0 7 TO FOUR 60, AND THEN YOUR CUSTOMER RATE BASE, I WON'T READ ALL OF 'EM ON THE SLIDE HERE, BUT PRETTY IMPORTANT, YOU HAVE SOME GROWTH, BUT IT'S NOT MONUMENTAL.

IT'S NOT GONNA FIX EVERYTHING AND PAY FOR ALL OF OUR NEW NEEDS GOING FORWARD.

SO ABOUT 50, 51 CONNECTIONS PER YEAR ARE ASSUMED IN OUR FORECAST.

ADDITIONALLY, MAYBE ONE MORE THING THAT'S OF IMPORTANCE.

RIGHT NOW, YOUR SENIORS ARE GETTING A $12 90 CENT DISCOUNT ON THEIR BILL.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT TO 13, BUT THEN HOLD THAT AMOUNT OVER TIME.

SO IT'S 13 UNTIL YOU OR A FUTURE COUNSEL DECIDES TO CHANGE IT.

AND THAT IS DIFFERENT.

RIGHT? NOW, WE HAVE A DISCOUNT OF IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF 40%, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GO TO A, A HARD DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND THEN COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, LOOK AT THAT IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT THEY CHANGE IT FROM A HARD DOLLAR AMOUNT VERSUS AN AUTOMATIC AMOUNT OF A PERCENTAGE.

AND WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE TO DOING IT THAT WAY? GENERALLY, IT DOESN'T GROW UNTIL YOU TELL IT TO, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

I HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS THAT WILL HAVE A, A FIXED $2 DISCOUNT.

WHAT'S THAT, SIR? WHAT WOULD BE THE PENNY DIFFERENCE THOUGH? OH, NO, MY APOLOGIES.

AND THEY'VE HELD IT THAT WAY FOR YEARS.

SOME WITH ZERO, SOME AT 10.

YOU, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ON THE HIGHER SIDE OF OUR SENIOR DISCOUNT COMPARATOR GROUP.

UM, AND SO AS YOUR NEEDS EXPAND, THE DISCOUNT GROWING LOCK STEP WITH THE RATES IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE YOUR DISCOUNT, WHICH, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF A SENIOR DISCOUNT, BUT THAT JUST GROWS EFFECTIVELY THE SUBSIDY THAT OTHER RATE PAYERS HAVE TO BEAR, RIGHT? AND SO THE FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT'S A KNOWN QUANTITY.

IT'S EASY TO SPEAK TO.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE PENNIES.

NEXT TIME WE UPDATE THIS, RIGHT? IT'S 13 UNTIL IT'S 1350 OR 14 OR WHATEVER YOU SET IT TO.

SO WHAT, THAT'S THE UPSIDE.

WHAT IS THE PENNY DIFFERENCE?

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SO IT'S JUST A NICE CONCRETE NUMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE DISCOUNT'S $13 AS OPPOSED TO 1290.

SO KIND OF SAID I'D START WITH THE END.

UH, WE ARE PROPOSING AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $9 AND 18 CENTS ON YOUR TYPICAL BILL, WHICH IS AROUND 5,000 GALLONS.

UH, AND THAT'S 5,000 WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER.

OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT CAPPED OUT YET, UH, ON THEIR WASTEWATER BILL AT THAT AMOUNT.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE AVERAGE OR TYPICAL BILLS GOING FROM 67 29 TO 76 47 GOING INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE ON SCREEN A NUMBER OF COMPARATORS.

UH, WE WORK WITH A HANDFUL OR MORE OF THESE CLIENTS.

UH, SO I WILL TELL YOU THEY'RE LOOKING AT RATE INCREASES RIGHT NOW, TOO.

IT'S THEIR BUDGET SEASON, ALMOST ALL OF THEM.

AND THEY'VE YET TO TAKE THEIR RATE ACTION, UH, OR ELSE I COULD HAVE REPORTED IT AS THEIR CHANGE.

SO WHEN WE'RE COMPARING, WE'RE COMPARING YOUR CURRENT STATE AT THE BOTTOM TO YOUR PROJECTED STATE AT 25.

BUT EVERYONE ELSE HAS THEIR CURRENT RATES AS OF THE LAST, UH, POSTED RATES ON THEIR WEBSITE.

RIGHT? AND YOU'LL SEE THIS ONE AGAIN AT THE END, BUT I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND LAY IT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY, OF COURSE.

UH, WE'RE NOT JUST RAISING RATES ARBITRARILY.

UH, WHAT YOU SEE, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT.

WELL, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ON THIS CHART.

UH, THIS IS OUR DASHBOARD, RIGHT? AND THIS IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, I TALK ABOUT HUNDREDS OF LINES, A LOT OF INFLATION FACTORS, WHOLESALE WORK PAPERS, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO THE GUMBO THAT IS EFFECTIVELY THE FINAL PRODUCT FOR YOU.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MEASURING.

ARE YOUR RATES SUFFICIENT? AND IF THIS GRAY BAR ON EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUES IS BELOW THE RED LINE OF, UH, EXPENSES, IT'S NOT OKAY.

RIGHT? WE'RE LOSING MONEY.

WE'RE IN THE RED TECHNICALLY.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT EXPENSES IN 25 WITH NO RATE INCREASE, OR 15 MILLION AGAINST REVENUES AT 13.5.

AND SO, WHILE YOU MAY HAVE SOME BALANCE TODAY, YOU CAN'T CONTINUE THAT PATTERN LONG.

SO IT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE PLAN.

ADDITIONALLY, THE MIDDLE CHART BECOMES MORE OF AN ISSUE NOW THAT YOU'RE ISSUING MORE DEBT.

THIS IS YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO.

UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE, UH, I'LL JUST GO OVER IT QUICKLY.

BASICALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY ALL OF YOUR OPERATING BILLS.

YOU THEN HAVE TO PAY YOUR DEBT NOTES, AND THEN YOU NEED A SURPLUS, RIGHT? AND SO IF YOUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE TARGET IS 1.25, THAT MEANS WE PAID ALL OF OUR M AND O OR MAINTENANCE, WE PAID FOR OUR DEBT, AND WE HAVE 25% OF OUR DEBT REMAINING, RIGHT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOND RATING AGENCIES ARE GOING TO LOOK AT.

AND YOU'D RATHER LEND MONEY TO SOMEBODY WITH A SURPLUS THAN SOMEONE RUNNING A DEFICIT.

SO THIS IS A CUSHION, IT'S INHERENTLY BUILT IN.

IT KICKS OFF CASH, AND THAT CASH CAN BE USED TO OFFSET AND NOT ISSUE MORE DEBT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THERE'S AN UPSIDE.

IT'S A GOOD FINANCIAL PRACTICE, UH, AND YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY STAVE OFF SOME DEBT IN THE FUTURE.

MAKE SENSE ON THE CRITERIA SO FAR? MM-HMM, .

AND THE LAST ONE, THE FUND BALANCE RESERVE.

UH, OF COURSE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE BANK TO PAY OPERATING COSTS.

SO OUR TARGET HERE IS 25%.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS OF OPERATING RESERVE.

AND SO AT CURRENT RATES, AGAIN, IF THE LINE IS THE TARGET, IF WE DON'T CHANGE RATES, WE'RE IN THE RED AND LITERALLY IN THE DEFICIT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE METRICS, THE TARGETS WE'VE ESTABLISHED? ARE YOU GONNA START GIVING US GOOD NEWS? THE GREAT NEWS IS THIS, SIR.

THE GREAT NEWS IS THE NEXT SLIDE, THE DASHBOARD IMPROVES DRAMATICALLY.

UM, IT IS WITH RATE INCREASES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE ON THIS VERY SLIDE.

SO TO GET THAT GRAY BAR ON THE LEFT TO RISE TO MEET YOUR RISING EXPENSES AS PLANNED, WE HAVE A SERIES OF INCREASES.

NEXT YEAR'S ABOUT 13.8%, OR 13.6, FORGIVE ME.

UH, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE 9.5% INCREASES FORECASTED FOR 26, AND THEN WE HOLD AT EIGHT AND A QUARTER THEREAFTER.

SO MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT WE HAVE A PLAN TO FUND THE NEEDS OF THE CITY'S UTILITY.

THAT'S JUST WITH THE CURRENT DEBT SERVICE, THOUGH.

THAT IS WITH THE ANTICIPATED DEBT SERVICE ANTICIPATED, YES, SIR.

FOR WE'RE, THIS WILL STILL CHANGE.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LONG-TERM CAPITAL PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

RIGHT? BUT IT DOES INCLUDE THE TWO LARGEST ISSUANCE, UH, THE 20 MILLION NOW AND THE 20 MILLION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND INCORPORATING THE 1.5 MILLION INTO OUR RATE.

SO WE HIT THE THREE BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, THINGS, UH, GOING OUT OF THE BOX, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE IDENTIFIED, BUT I THINK LONG TERM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GROW, GROW THAT 1.5 MILLION, UM, AND TRY TO TACKLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN CASH CASH IN THE BARREL.

SO AS NOT GUARANTEE IT CAN GO UP HIGHER.

YES, IT CAN GO UP HIGHER.

RIGHT? NOW, THIS WAS THE, I MEAN, WE HESITATED ON SHOWING YOU HOW MUCH, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE THE, THE COMPLETE MASTER PLAN, UH, YET FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO THERE'LL BE OTHER PROJECTS THAT COME IN.

I BELIEVE THERE

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MAY BE SOME OTHER FUNDING RESOURCES AS WELL.

OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS GROWTH COMES, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT GRANTS AND STUFF.

SO HOW IS THE, UH, STORM WATER INFILTRATION PROJECT IF THAT COMES INTO FILTRATION AND SAVES US A LOT OF, UH, WATER NOT TO TREAT, WE'RE CURRENTLY TREATING, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THOSE NUMBERS? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'LL, IF IT'LL AFFECT, UH, HAVE A GREAT EFFECT ON THE TREATMENT, UH, NUMBERS, WHAT IT WILL AFFECT IS THE SIZING OF FUTURE CAPITAL ITEMS. WE WON'T HAVE TO BUILD AS BIG AS A, UM, LIFT STATION OR, UM, WE WON'T HAVE TO EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR MORE CAPACITY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL NECESSARILY SEE A DIRECT CORRELATION TO TREATMENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WILL TAKE A DEEP DIVE IN THE RATES, BUT IT WILL PREVENT, UH, OVERSIZING OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

WELL, IT SHOULD HELP YOU BECAUSE YOU'LL BE TREATING CONCENTRATED WASTE VERSUS DILUTED WASTE.

SO WHEN YOU DILUTE WASTE, IT'S GONNA COST YOU MORE MONEY TO TREAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN, I NO DISAGREEMENT THERE.

I JUST DUNNO, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GR A GREAT AMOUNT, A GREAT AMOUNT.

IT'LL HAVE MORE IMPACT ON THE SIZING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IT MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT.

BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO INI EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO UPSIZE YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN, WHICH IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING.

UH, WE ARE ALSO SIZING OUR LIFT STATION BASED ON THAT, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THE INI, OTHERWISE OUR LIFT STATION WILL BE HIGHER TOO.

SO THAT'S BEEN FACTORED INTO THIS, THIS EQUATION.

AND, AND WHAT CITY MANAGER, JUST SAY WE, WE DIDN'T FINISH THE MASTER PLAN YET.

HOPEFULLY BY END OF DECEMBER WE WILL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

THEN HE CAN GO BACK AND REDO THIS, THIS STUDY.

THIS IS JUST FOR LOOKING AT THE $20 MILLION AND $1.5 MILLION YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

AND IN THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM, AS WE REDUCE INI, YOU WILL HAVE REDUCED ELECTRICAL COSTS DURING HIGH RAIN EVENTS.

UH, YOU'LL ALSO HAVE REDUCED CHEMICAL FEED COSTS.

UH, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO QUANTIFY THAT.

AND AS WE MENTIONED ON SATURDAY, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH I AND I, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE WE SEE A QUANTITATIVE REDUCTION IN FLOWS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

BECAUSE WE CLOSE THE HOLE HERE, THE BIG HOLE OVER HERE CAN NOW TAKE MORE WATER.

SINCE WE CLOSED UP THE SMALLER HOLE.

MY, MY MAIN QUESTION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE INCLUDING SOME OF THAT, UH, GAINS ALREADY IN THE, IN THE, WHICH MAY NOT MATERIALIZE, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA RAISE THE INTEREST CHARGE MORE DOWN THE ROAD THAN WHAT WE'RE PREDICTING TODAY.

YOU FOLLOW ME? WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF YOU HAD, SO THE, SO IS YOUR QUESTION, ARE WE INCLUDING THE COST RECOVERY BY DOING INI? RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE.

THAT'S GOOD.

I DON'T WANT TO BE INCLUDING THAT AND THEN IT NOT MATERIALIZE.

THAN DOUBLE MCI FOR THAT.

I THINK THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST HITTERS FOR US THAT REDUCING I AND I IS GONNA DO FOR US AT LEAST FOR THE IMMEDIATE IS, LIKE MODESTO SAID, IS KEEPS US FROM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OVER CAPACITY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD.

AND THE ONE I WORRY ABOUT THE MOST IS, UH, THE STATE COMING IN AND TELLING YOU YOU'RE IN VIOLATION AND YOU FIX IT TODAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.

RIGHT? I THINK PROBABLY WHERE NEWGEN HELPED US, YOU KNOW, THE MOST IS THAT THEY NERD OUT ON THE LINE ITEMS AND THE HISTORICAL TRENDS ON GROWTH, YOU KNOW, UH, ARE ALSO LOOKING BACK FURTHER THAN WE DO ON EACH LINE ITEM ON THE COST.

AND THEY JUST DON'T TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT THAT IT'S GONNA INCREASE, YOU KNOW, 3% WHEN THEY LOOK BACK FIVE YEARS AND SAY, HISTORICALLY IT'S INCREASED 5% AND STUFF.

SO I THINK THAT'S, THEY DO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UH, DEEPER AND LONGER DIVE CONSERVATIVE YEAR BECAUSE HAVING TO GO BACK AND SAY, WE NEED MORE.

SO, MM-HMM, .

AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE ONE VARIABLE THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL AND MAYBE ISN'T CALCULATED IN HERE IS WHAT BWA MAY OR MAY NOT DO.

SO THAT IS ACTUALLY MODELED IT IS IN THERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE HAVE STYLE STYLED AT AROUND 8% PER ANNUM, I BELIEVE.

LET ME GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.

I DON'T WANNA LIE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE THAT GOING FROM ABOUT 8.7% AND 26 DOWN TO 6.6% COST FOR THE COMMODITY.

UH, THE UNIT RATE FOR WATER GOING UP.

UM, BUT DECREASING FROM THE CURRENT 12% INCREASE YOU'RE EXPERIENCING DOWN TO ABOUT 7%.

UM, AND WE, OF COURSE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE WE HAVE THE GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT 3 CENTS.

THAT'S KIND OF A STEADY, WE DON'T MAKE ANY BIG ASSUMPTIONS 'CAUSE IT'S A PASS THROUGH.

IT'S KIND OF NOT A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IT COULD BE.

UM, BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WHOLESALE IS CERTAINLY A VITAL PART OF OUR ANALYSIS.

SO WE DID FORECAST A LOT MORE, UH, BETTER

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YES, MA'AM.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR PUTTING UP WITH IT.

UH, NERD OUT IS OUR WORD ABOUT EXCEL.

WE ENJOY IT, UH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THEM ENTERTAINING OUR QUESTIONS.

UH, SO AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE RATES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, AGAIN, I I MAKE THESE AS SIMPLE AS I CAN.

THE GRAY BAR HITS THE RED LINE.

WE'RE GOOD.

THE NEXT ONE, THE BLUE LINE IS OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.

SO EACH YEAR THAT YOU ISSUE DEBT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE NEED RISE FOR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THIS PUNCTUATED ISSUE IN 25.

YOU HAVE MORE DEBT NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE TO HIT, SO YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE CUSP.

WE'RE BETTER IN 27, BUT THEN BY THE TIME WE GET TO 28 AND WE HAVE TO PAY THAT FIRST NOTE ON THE SECOND $20 MILLION LIFT STATION, I BELIEVE NUMBER 20 IS WHAT'S PLANNED.

UM, LIFT STATION NUMBER 20, UH, THEN YOU'LL NEED TO HAVE DEBT SERVICE AND HAVE THE REVENUES ABLE TO HIT THAT WHEN IT COMES.

UM, MOREOVER, A FINANCIAL PLAN SUCH AS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BOND RATING AGENCIES, TWDB, ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT GIVING YOU THE NOTES IS GONNA WANT TO SEE YOU HAVE A PLAN TO REPAY IT.

SO YOU'RE IN A GOOD SPOT.

I THINK STAFF'S DONE A GOOD JOB EVEN BEFORE THE MASTER PLAN IS FINISHED.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S SEVERAL OF YOU POINTED OUT THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOMES OF THAT SOMEWHAT.

AND THE LAST ONE, OF COURSE, FUND BALANCE RESERVE.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THIS METRIC IS RIGHT ON THE LINE.

SO AT THE END OF EACH STUDY, I'M GONNA HAVE ONE DRIVING METRIC.

AND THE DRIVING METRIC FOR YOU IS HITTING DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE AS YOU'RE TAKING ON NEW DEBT, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND STAY NORTH OF THIS BLUE LINE FOR FUND BALANCE RESERVE.

WHAT THAT MEANS FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL AND THE NEXT COUNCIL IS YOU'LL HAVE SOME CASH TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH.

SO IT'S A MAYBE CONSERVATIVE, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

AND YOU DO HAVE TO HIT COVERAGE ONCE YOU START ISSUING DEBT FOR THESE PROJECTS.

SO, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSED RATES AND WHAT THEY DO FOR YOU RELATIVE TO COVERING EXPENSES, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A RATE SCHEDULE.

I'M NOT QUALIFIED.

R KNEW THIS THOUGH.

HE SET ME UP.

UM, SO HERE ARE YOUR CURRENT WATER RATES.

UH, I TELL EVERY COUNCIL THAT I TALK TO THIS, I LIVE IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS.

I DO THIS FOR A LIVING AND I DON'T KNOW MY, WHAT MY RATES ARE.

SO I SHOW YOU YOUR RATES BECAUSE THIS MAY NOT BE THE TOP THING ON YOUR FRIDGE EVERY MORNING.

YOU LOOK AT, SO THIS IS YOUR RATE SCHEDULE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A MINIMUM CHARGE THAT INCLUDES 2000 GALLONS.

THAT'S WHY THAT FIRST ZERO TO TWO VOLUMETRIC DOESN'T HAVE A FEE.

IT'S BAKED INTO THE MINIMUM CHARGES.

YOU THEN CHARGE FROM TWO TO 20,005, 60 AND 20 AND ABOVE SORT OF AN EXCESS WATER RATE AT 6 35 FOR COMMERCIAL.

YOU HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

AND WITHOUT READING THE ENTIRE SLIDE TO YOU, YOU SEE THAT WE GO UP FROM 25 TO 26 ON WASTEWATER RATES.

NOTABLY, YOUR RATE DESIGN INCLUDES, UH, A CAP FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS SO THAT EVEN WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING 27,000 GALLONS ON THE LAWN, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GET BILLED FOR 13,000 OF THEIR 15,000 GALLONS OF CONSUMPTION AS IF IT WERE FLOW TO YOUR PLANT.

SO THERE'S A CAP AT 15 AND TWO OR THREE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

SO NO CHANGES TO YOUR DESIGN.

JUST NEED MORE IN RATES.

THANKS MARIA.

MM-HMM, .

SO ULTIMATELY THIS IS THE BILL IMPACT WE FORECASTED.

WE SHOWED YOU PERCENTS AND THE DASHBOARD.

THIS IS WHAT THE REAL BILL LOOKS LIKE OVER A FIVE YEAR.

IF YOU FOLLOW THIS PLAN.

UH, RATES GOING UP FROM 67 29 TODAY UP TO 1 0 6 11 BY 2029.

YOU'LL SEE WASTEWATER IS MARGINALLY MORE THAN YOUR WATER.

AND THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE.

IT IS A LITTLE MORE COSTLY GENERALLY FOR WASTEWATER SYSTEMS THAN FOR WATER.

ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S, UH, A LARGER CONSUMER.

THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BILL.

UH, WE ARE AFFECTING THAT RATE PAYER AS WELL.

SO WE DO SHOW YOU A COMMERCIAL, UH, BILL AT 20,000 GALLONS CONSUMPTION.

UH, THAT BILL TODAY IS 2 74.

AT THE END OF THIS HORIZON, 2029, IT WOULD BE $433.

SO BACK TO COMPARISONS.

YOU'RE NOT THAT FAR OUT OF LINE.

YOU'RE SORT OF THE BOTTOM MIDDLE OF THE PACK.

YOU GO TO THE TOP MIDDLE OF THE PACK BEFORE THEY'VE DONE THEIR RATE CHANGES IN 25.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU A FEW OF THESE ARE LOOKING AT SOME INCREASES, UM, BUT THEY HAVEN'T ACTED ON IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, UH, JUST YET.

SO WITHOUT QUESTIONS ON THAT SLIDE, I'M KIND OF DOWN TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, AND HERE AND WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE STUDY.

AGAIN, THANKS TO YOUR STAFF AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, TRUSTING NUGEN WITH US.

SO THE INCREASED COST TO THE CUSTOMERS LARGELY RESULT FROM INCREASED COST ON OUR SIDE, GETTING WATER FROM BWA AND AND REBUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER CAPITAL TYPE PROJECTS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

SO, AND THERE IS NO PROJECT APPROVED BY THE

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THAT'S BEEN A WHILE OF GETTING NO.

UM, A LITTLE OFTENTIMES, OFTENTIMES YOU DON'T HAVE THAT GO TO THE VOTERS LIKE ON A GEO BOND BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DUTY TO SERVE YES.

QUALITY WATER.

AND THIS IS A LIFE ISSUE, RIGHT? SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PUT THAT OUT TO A GEO BOND.

UM, AND SO THEY JUST TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, TCEQ WILL KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR IF YOU DON'T DO IT, RIGHT? YES.

RIGHT? YEP.

MAKES SENSE.

AND AGAIN, MY, YOU KNOW, MY PLAN OF ACTION IS WE'VE HAD NEW GEN, UH, TWO YEARS IN A ROW AND THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY ARE, OUR RATING ANALYSIS FOR THE LONG TERM, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS AS WELL THAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR TWO FIRMS IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO USE NEW GEN EVERY YEAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE ISSUING, UH, UH, DEBT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT POSITIVES ON, ON STUFF, IS THAT ON UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED? IS THAT, UH, EVEN IF THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE CAN GROW AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES AS FAR AS OUT, IS THE ALDEN PROPERTY.

AND WE HAVE CAPACITY TO BRING ALDEN ON WITHOUT ANY, ANY ADDITIONS THAT CORRECT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE'RE NOT LIKE ANGLETON HAS TO GO OUT AND BUILD OUT A $75 MILLION, UH, FACILITY, UH, TO, FOR GROWTH.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE TO START GROWING UP, THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR US.

BUT ANYWAY, SO WE, FOR THE KNOWN GROWTH THAT WE HAVE, WE'VE GOT THE CAPACITY AND WE JUST NEED TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR, IS TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND HOPEFULLY, AGAIN, I KEEP ON PREACHING IS, IS THAT EVERY TIME WE CHANGE A PUMP OUT OR WHATEVER IS WE LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY OR WHATEVER TYPE STUFF.

SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE I AND I AND THAT THAT SAVES US COST.

BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, ON THE WATER SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE DON'T LOSE WATER ALSO.

AND SO THAT AGAIN, THAT, THAT KEEPS COST OUTTA THE EQUATION.

SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS.

IT'S JUST, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER CITIES WE'RE HAVING TO PAY, UH, PAY FOR HAVING, UH, 50, 50 YEAR OR OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND.

AND, UH, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE AHEAD OF IT.

WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING AHEAD.

WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BUT WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE FURTHER AHEAD OF IT THAN OTHER CITIES.

IT'S JUST THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, WE HAVET DUG A HOLE THAT'S TOO DEEP FOR US TO GET OUT OF.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, I GUESS.

NO, I JUST THINK, UM, WE, REALITY IS GOING TO SIT IN, YOU KNOW, FOR MOST FOLKS IS THAT YOUR, YOUR WATER BILL WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP TO YOUR, UM, ENTERTAINMENT BILL, UH, , UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, CABLE UNTIL, AND ALL THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN FOR WATER AND SEWER, BUT YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT WATER AND SEWER.

RIGHT? THE ROUTE IS IS THOSE WILL BE GOING UP TOO.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY CATCH YOU .

BUT ANYWAY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, SIR.

MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO IS, UH, APPROVED 90 DAY, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICE CONTRACT WITH A-D-C-M-C CONSULTING SERVICES FOR FEMA, UH, ASSISTANCE VIA THE HGAC BY CONTRACT HP 0 8 2 1, NOT EXCEED $50,000.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, SHOWING US THE WAY.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU MATTHEW.

ALRIGHT, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, SO THERE'S NO ACTION ON THAT ITEM THERE.

SO WE

[2. Approve a 90-day Emergency Services Contract with DCMC Consulting Services for FEMA assistance via the HGAC Buy Contract HP08-21 not exceeding $50,000. – Modesto Mundo ]

YES, SIR.

MAYOR COUNSEL, THIS ITEM IS, UH, AS STATED TO ENGAGE DCMC FOR A 90 DAY EMERGENCY SERVICES CONTRACT.

WITH REGARDS TO THE WORLD OF FEMA AND RECOVERY.

UH, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND THE INTRICACIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH FEMA FROM DEBRIS TO TREES TO A NEW ROOF ON CITY HALL OR REPAIRING DAMAGE TO THE ROOF ON CITY HALL OR ANY OTHER CITY FACILITY, CIVIC CENTER, ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THEIR RULES.

AND THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES RUN INTO CHALLENGES.

AND WE WILL BE ENGAGING DCMC FOR THAT 90 DAYS.

WE WILL PROBABLY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO START OUR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO ENGAGE A FIRM LONG TERM.

UH, WE DID NOT HAVE A PREPOSITION CONTRACT FOR THESE FEMA TYPE SERVICES IN THE PAST, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH CROWDER GOLF AND THOMPSON CONSULTING SERVICES.

UH, MANY MUNICIPALITIES DO CARRY

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PREPOSITION CONTRACTS WITH THEM THAT HAVE COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE FEDERAL MANDATED LANGUAGE, UH, TO MAKE EVERYTHING ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

AND WE DID INTERVIEW TWO FIRMS OFF OF, UH, THE, UH, COOPERATIVE PURCHASING ONE OUT OF HJAC ONE OUT THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.

UM, INCLUDE IS ALSO HIRING A, UM, UH, CONSULTANT AS WELL DURING THIS FIRST 90 DAY PERIOD.

AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE GOALS WITH THE CONSULTANT IS THEY HELP US HOPEFULLY GET, GET OUR REFUNDS QUICKER.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

SO THEY CAN HELP US.

THERE'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE OVER HERE, ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT OR MITIGATION PROJECTS HERE? UH, THEY WILL HELP GUIDE US THROUGH ALL OF THAT, THAT MAZE.

SO THEY, THEY CAN HELP US IDENTIFY, UH, MITIGATION PROJECTS.

HISTORICALLY, WE, WE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE USED SOMEONE.

CLUT HAS USED SOMEONE IN A COUPLE OTHER CITIES AND I, IT WAS CLEARLY EVIDENT IN THE LAST TWO WINTER STORMS WHERE THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS AMOUNTS WERE GREATER THAN OURS.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS WE'VE PROBABLY LEFT STUFF ON THE TABLE.

AND STEVE GLENN IS HERE WITH, UH, DCMC IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT ARE THE DELIVERABLES FROM THIS, THIS CONTRACT, STEVE? AND GOOD EVENING Y'ALL.

UM, MR. MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

DON'T HIT ME SO SOON.

HITTING YOU SO SOON.

PEOPLE DOWN HERE , UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US IN.

UH, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, DCMC PARTNERS IS A, WE CRISIS MANAGEMENT CONSULTING FIRM.

UH, WE'RE MADE UP OF A BUNCH OF, UH, OLD OR YOUNG FEMALE MITES.

UM, ALL OF US HAVE SERVED IN FEMA IN ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER.

I WAS A BRANCH CHIEF FOR MANY YEARS WITH FEMA REGION FOUR.

I WORKED WITH TONY ROBINSON, UH, BACK WHEN HE WAS NOT A REGIONAL ADMINISTRATOR, BUT A DIVISION HEAD LIKE MYSELF.

UM, SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR YOU ALL IS WE'RE GONNA HELP ASSESS DAMAGES.

WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL YOUR ELIGIBLE COSTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THOSE FORMATTED PROPERLY FOR FEMA WORK WITH FEMA IN THE STATE.

UH, 'CAUSE YOUR STATE IS ONE OF YOUR, ONE OF YOUR HURDLES.

UH, IT'S NOT A HURDLE, IT'S A PARTNER IN YOUR RECOVERY.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FEMA AND FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, THEY'RE ONE STEP, THEY'LL GIVE THE MONEY TO THE STATE, AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA GET THE MONEY OUT OF THE STATE, UH, BACK TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY AND GET YOU CLOSED OUT PROPERLY.

SO OUR DELIVERABLES WILL BE TO, TO DO DAMAGE ASSESSMENT, HELP DEFINE SCOPES OF WORK, HELP SITE ASSESSMENTS, HELP IDENTIFY MITIGATION OPPORTUNITIES WHEREVER WE CAN, UH, AND THEN WRITE THOSE UP AND, UH, WORK THOSE THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN ONCE THOSE ARE APPROVED, UM, IF WE, UH, BID AND ARE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO, TO BE AWARDED THE RF QS IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE GRANT TO MAKE SURE IT CLOSES OUT PROPERLY.

'CAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU CLOSE THINGS OUT SO THEY DON'T COME BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT BITE A KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AT MIDNIGHT SAYING, WE WANT OUR TWO $3 MILLION BACK.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE RE WE REDUCE ALMOST TO ZERO.

SO, UH, WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

Y'ALL DONE THIS MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.

UH, I HAVEN'T, I'M ONLY 26 , BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FEMA, WHICH IS WHY I LOOK LIKE I DO.

UM, NO, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE.

UH, OUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN, UH, DCMC WAS FORMED IN 2014, BUT BEFORE THAT, UM, OUR PRESIDENT, BARRY SCANLAN AND OUR OTHER TWO PARTNERS, DREW SACKS AND, UH, MARK MERRI WERE WORKED AS, UH, DIRECT REPORTS TO JAMES LEE WHITT, WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF THE HAZARD MED.

THE WHAT IS CURRENTLY KNOWN AS THE MODERN DAY HAZARD MITIGATION, UH, LITTLE HISTORY LESSON.

UH, THEY ALL WORKED STRAIGHT FOR JAMES LEE WOOD.

AS A MATTER OF FACT.

UH, BARRY SCANLON WAS THE FOUNDER OF PROJECT IMPACT, WHICH WAS A PREDECESSOR TO THE MODERN MID TO GET MITIGATION PROGRAMS. SO I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE.

I'VE BEEN DOING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FULL-TIME FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER, AND I'M GOING ON 36 YEARS.

AND THIS IS WHAT I, THIS IS WHAT I DO.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE.

SO, WITHIN THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTRACT, IS THERE ANY GUARANTEES THAT THAT IN FACT WON'T HAPPEN? WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T GET REIMBURSED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEN THEY DO COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR? NO, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHY IS BECAUSE FEMA IS, UH, A, THE MANDATE OF FEMA UNDER THE STAFFORD ACT GIVES THE AUTHORITY OF THE AGENCY ITSELF AS A DISCRETIONARY GRANT PROGRAM.

SO, FEMA MAKES THE RULES.

THEY HAVE THE GOLD, AND THEY, AS SUCH, THEY MAKE THE RULES.

SO WE FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND WE GIVE THEM VERY LITTLE CHANCE OF TAKING MONEY BACK IN THE FUTURE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE NEVER HAD A NEGATIVE AUDIT FINDING AGAINST US IN SUPPORT OF ONE OF OUR CLIENTS.

UM, SO, UH, WE'VE GONE INTO CLIENTS THAT HAVE HAD TROUBLE BEFORE.

UH, THERE IS A MAJOR UTILITY PROVIDER IN TEXAS THAT, UH, HIRED US TO GO IN AND HELP STRAIGHTEN OUT A, UH, AN AUDIT FINDING, UH, FROM FEMA TO GO BACK AND FIGHT AND GRAB THAT MONEY BACK ALSO.

SO WE, WE DO HELP CLIENTS GET THE MONEY BACK WHEN, WHEN THEY NEED IT.

UH, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WITH ANY KIND OF DISCRETIONARY FUNDING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

UM,

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I'LL NEVER SAY ZERO BECAUSE I USED TO WORK FOR FEMA.

UM, BUT WE'LL REDUCE YOUR RISK DOWN TO THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST PAYMENT THERE IS.

I I'VE NEVER KNOWN OF OUR CLIENTS TO GET MONEY CLAW BACK.

SO THE, SO IT, IT IS WITH ALL THE OTHER STU, I WOULD, I SUSPECT THAT, UH, UH, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, HARVEY MOST RECENTLY, OKAY, HARVEY WAS, UH, FEDS DECIDED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT'S GONNA COME TO THIS AREA, UH, BE IT HOUSTON AREA, AND FOR THE REST OF HJC, FOR EXAMPLE.

UH, SO IS THAT GONNA BE THE SAME TYPE OF OPERATION WHERE, UH, THEY COME BACK? SO WE'VE GOT, I'VE GOT OUR FUNDING THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE TIED, OUR REFUND IS GONNA BE TIED BACK TO OUR EXPENDITURES.

CORRECT.

BUT IF YOU HEARD THAT, IF THERE'S GOING THAT YET, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S GONNA COME FROM THE FEDS BY WAY OF, UH, THROUGH CDBG FUNDING.

AND SOME OTHER, OTHER DISASTER GRANT TYPE PROGRAMS. YEAH.

HUD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UH, I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT YET.

UH, AND I WAS JUST TALKING TONIGHT, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL GET YOUR PERMANENT WORK APPROVED INSTEAD OF JUST YOUR EMERGENCY WORK APPROVED.

PA PERSON, UM, THAT, THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS.

UH, THAT'LL BE OUR FIRST HURDLE IS TO WORK WITH THE STATE AND FEMA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT.

IF FEMA DOES GRANT THAT, UH, THEN THAT'LL OPEN UP A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.

AND USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS FROM THAT IS HUD WILL COME BACK IN A YEAR OR TWO AND THEY'LL, BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT THE STATE OBLIGATES THROUGH FEMA, UH, THEY'LL ISSUE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, DISASTER RECOVERY FUND THROUGH CC THROUGH THE CDBG PROGRAM.

BUT THE BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM IS C-D-B-G-D-R AND THEY'LL ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO EACH REGION, UM, THROUGHOUT THE STATE OR TO COMMUNITIES THAT IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO DIVIDEND UP AT THE TIME.

RIGHT? SO, SO IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, WE'RE OUT MONEY AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO? UH, NO.

ONCE FEMA IS, ONCE YOU'RE, WELL, A COUPLE THINGS.

ONCE, ONCE FEMA DECLARES A DISASTER, SO YOU'VE GOT A AND B SO FAR, AND ONCE THEY DECLARE THE EMERGENCY WORK, UH, THERE IS NO LIMIT TO FEDERAL FUNDS.

NOW, THE CONGRESS, THROUGH THE DISASTER RECOVERY FUND, THE DRF WILL AUTHORIZE FUNDING, AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'RE HERE, THE DRF, THE DISASTER RECOVERY FUND IS RUNNING OUTTA MONEY.

THAT'S JUST BECAUSE CONGRESS IS, THEY'RE FIGHTING IN INTERNALLY OR SOMETHING, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE MORE MONEY AROUND.

AND YOUR PROJECTS MAY SLOW BECAUSE THE, THE, THE FEDERAL, THE FEDERAL PIPES ARE A LITTLE CLOGGED, BUT THEY WILL NEVER SHUT OFF.

ONCE YOU'RE APPROVED, YOUR PROJECT'S APPROVED.

IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE, UM, AND THAT BRIDGE YOU BUILT 20, 50 YEARS AGO, WHENEV WHENEVER COSTS YOU A MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU GET ENGINEERING REPORTS, AND IT'S GONNA COST YOU $400 MILLION TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE BACK AS LONG AS THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH IS WHAT WILL YOU HIRE US TO HELP WRITE THE SCOPE OF WORK? AND THE ESTIMATES ARE RIGHT, FEMA WILL APPROVE A $400 MILLION GRANT.

UM, THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THAT.

SO ONCE THE COFFER IS OPEN AND YOUR PROJECT IS AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT, ELIGIBLE APPLICANT ELIGIBLE PROJECT, GOOD SITE, GOOD SCOPE, GOOD ESTIMATE, YOU'RE ABLE TO, YOU'LL BE APPROVED FOR THE FUNDING.

AND ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, SOME THE, WE'RE WORKING, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEVER RUNS OUTTA MONEY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

PRINCIP.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TALKING.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS, UH, FOLKS HIRE EX FEMA FOLKS LIKE ME IS THAT WE, WE TALK FEMA.

SO WE CAN GO INTO A ROOM AND WE CAN, WE CAN BEND THE KNEE AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, WE'RE MANAGING THEIR MONEY PROPERLY, OUR MONEY PROPERLY, THAT THEY'RE ADMINISTERING, AND THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

UH, AND THEY'RE CONFIDENT IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE OBLIGATING THE MONEY AND SPENDING IT.

SO, AND WE, WE TALK FEMA TALK, SO WE DO A LOT OF MITIGATION WORK.

I NOTICED THAT YOU, IN ONE OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS, YOU'RE APPROVING SOME MONEY FROM THE, FROM TEXAS FOR SOME MITIGATION WORK, $2 MILLION.

IT'S AWESOME.

SO KEEP UP THAT WORK.

WE'LL HELP YOU IDENTIFY MORE IF YOU'D LIKE, BOTH UNDER THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AS WELL AS 4 0 4, UH, PROGRAMS. YOU'RE A PROJECT MANAGER, KELLY GEORGE IS ONE OF THE BEST HAZARD MITIGATORS IN THE NATION.

UM, SHE IS WELL RESPECTED.

FEMA FEARS HER , UM, BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THE PROGRAM BETTER THAN THEY DO.

AND SHE IS JUST AS NICE AS SHE CAN BE.

BUT SHE, UH, UH, I'LL TOUT FOR SIX, LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AGO, SHE WENT INTO THE PUERTO RICO DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHO WERE SUPPORTING, WE'RE MANAGING ALL THEIR SCHOOL RECOVERIES ACROSS THE ISLAND OF PUERTO RICO.

THE ISLAND SAID, WE DON'T WANT ANY HAZARD MITIGATION, WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE.

IT'S TOO COMPLEX.

WE HATE DEALING WITH FEMA.

WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.

KELLY GEORGE SAYS, LET US TRY.

AND A MONTH LATER, KELLY GEORGE AND HER TEAM GOT THEM AN ADDITIONAL $307 MILLION FOR MITIGATION PROJECTS IN THE SCHOOLS ACROSS PUERTO RICO.

SO SHE KNOWS HER STUFF.

UM, AND RICK PATTERSON LIVES UP IN HOUSTON, ONE OF THE BEST PA GUYS USED TO BE WORK FOR, UH, FOR TATUM.

UH, HE'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THE PROJECT AS AN SME, DONNA MCGUIRE KNOWN HER FOR YEARS.

UH, Y'ALL GOT SOME GREAT, YOU GOT, Y'ALL GOT SOME GOOD TEXANS DOWN HERE WORKING, UH, ANOTHER GREAT

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SO IT'S A GOOD TEAM.

UM, I'M CONFIDENT WHAT THEY DO.

UM, UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU ALLOW US, WE'D LOVE TO, TO WORK WITH YOU AND PARTNER WITH YOU, UM, NOT JUST IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS, BUT MAYBE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

AND THE CONSULTANT FEE IS ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, THE DIRECT ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, COST REIMBURSEMENT.

YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

CORRECT.

UH, OUT OF EACH DECLARED INCIDENT, THERE IS 5% SET ASIDE FOR DIRECT ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, MEANING RUNNING THE RECOVERY AND THAT 5% DOES NOT HAVE A MATCH TO IT.

SO IT IS A TRUE 5% OF THE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH RECOVERY FROM AN INCIDENT, AND WE'LL HELP MANAGE THAT COST ALSO BY APPLYING SOME OF OUR COSTS AS WE WRAP YOUR SCOPES.

SOME OF THOSE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR COVERAGE UNDER A PROJECT WORKSHEET SCOPE.

SO WE'LL HELP TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT COST.

SO WHAT IS THAT? AND WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW FIRMS OUT THERE THAT REALLY, WE HOLD A TIGHT LINE.

WE'RE ALL FEDERAL, WELL ALL EX GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, SO WE KNOW WHAT A BUDGET MEANS.

SO WE, WE WORK THROUGH YOUR BUDGET.

SO, MM-HMM.

WHAT IS THE TYPICAL TIMELINE? SO THIS IS A 90 DAY CONTRACT, SO THREE MONTHS.

WE KNOW GOVERNMENT WORKS SLOW.

SO HOW FAR DOES 90 DAYS REALLY GET US IN THIS PROCESS FOR A STORM OF THIS SCOPE THAT WILL GET US THROUGH THE RFQ PROCESS TO BRING A FIRM ON FOR THE REST OF THE INCIDENT? FOR THE REST OF RECOVERY? UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, I WAS IN GALVESTON FOR HURRICANE IKE, AND I THINK THEY CLOSED OUT THEIR LAST PROJECTS IN 2019.

SO 11 YEARS LATER, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK LOUISIANA, NEW ORLEANS IS STILL HAS HURRICANE KATRINA PROJECTS OPEN AND WORKSHEETS OPEN FROM 2005.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S A LONG TERM, LONG TERM INCIDENT.

SO WOULD YOU BE COMING BACK AFTER 90 DAYS FOR AN EXTENSION OR NO? WE WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, GO OUT FOR RFI AND INTERVIEW FIRMS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, IT COULD BE DMRC OR IT COULD BE ANOTHER FIRM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM TWO.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE 90 DAY EMERGENCY SERVICE CONTRACT WITH DCMC CONSULTING SERVICES FOR FEMALE ASSISTANCE VIA THE HGAC BODY CONTRACT HB ZERO EIGHT DASH 21, NOT TO EXCEEDING $50,000.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN HANYA.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN UH, SETH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

OKAY, MOVE

[3. Approve amendment to the Crowder Gulf Disaster Debris Removal Services contract for hazardous trees and debris collection/hauling at city-owned property. - Eric Wilson ]

ON TO ITEM THREE.

APPROVE, UH, AMENDMENT TO CROWDER GULF DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL SERVICES, UH, CONTRACT FOR HAZARDOUS TREES AND DEBRIS COLLECTION HAULING AT CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

ERIC? YES SIR.

UH, THIS AMENDMENT TO OUR DEBRIS REMOVAL CONTRACT IS FOR OTHER CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, UH, PARK CITY HALL COMPLEX, UH, AREAS THAT WERE ALSO IMPACTED BY HURRICANE BARREL.

AND, UH, YES, THIS WE WILL BE OPERATING UNDER THE $6 MILLION CAP THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED FOR ALL OF THE DEBRIS REMOVAL.

UH, THEY HAVE DONE A PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF THE PARKS.

THERE IS, AS ROBIN HAS STATED, THERE IS A LOT OF VEGETATIVE DEBRIS IN THE PARKS.

UH, BUT WE HAVE ALSO, I'VE INSTRUCTED THEM THAT IF WE GET, YOU KNOW, 5.5, TELL ME AND WE'RE GONNA SLOW YOU DOWN SO WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL IF, UH, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM WARRANTS BELIEVES THAT IT'S WARRANTED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ADDITIONAL DEBRIS REMOVAL AT THAT POINT, SO WE WILL NOT GO OVER THE $6 MILLION.

OKAY? SO, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY YET.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO JUST, UH, BROADEN THEIR SCOPE.

YES, SIR.

AND THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION FOR IT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM THREE.

MR, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT TO CROWD OF GULF.

JUST DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL SERVICES, CONTRACT FOR HAZARDOUS TREES AND DEBRIS COLLECTION HAULING AT CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COUNCILWOMAN SETH COUNCIL AND, UH, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.

ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION FURTHER? I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'D WATCHED THEM PUT THE, UH, TREES AND STUFF IN THE TRUCK AND THERE WAS A LADY IN THE TRUCK, I GUESS THAT WAS A SAFETY OB OBSERVER, THAT THAT PERSON IS A DEBRIS MONITOR.

UH, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CERTIFY

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FOR FEMA THIRD PARTY.

WE, WE JUST DID THE EXTENSION TO THEIR CONTRACT.

THEY ARE MAKING SURE.

YOU SAY YOU'RE PICKING UP 50 YARDS.

I CERTIFY THAT YOU PICKED UP 50 YARDS IN THE CITY LIMITS.

YEAH, IN THE CITY LIMITS.

NOT ACROSS IN INCLUDE OR OUT IN THE COUNTY.

GOTCHA.

ALRIGHT, DO OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

AMENDMENT'S BEEN APPROVED.

ERIC MIGHT AS WELL STAY UP.

ERIC, JUST STAYING UP THERE, JUST SMILING AWAY.

[4. Authorize the City Manager to enter a contract with Southern Trenchless Solutions via Buy Board Contract #730-24 to replace approximately 8100 linear feet of sewer line and 37 manholes in Basin 12 not exceeding $1,250,599 which includes a 20% contingency as budgeted. – Eric Wilson ]

ITEM FOUR, AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN, UH, TRENCH LIST SOLUTIONS VIA BUYBOARD CONTRACT 7 3 0 2 4 TO REPLACE APPROXIMATELY 8,100 LINEAR FEET OF SEWER LINE IN 37 MANHOLES IN BASIN 12, UH, NOT EXCEEDING ONE POINT, UH, $1,250,599, UM, WHICH INCLUDES A 20% CONTINGENCY AS BUDGETED.

ERIC.

THIS WAS PART OF A BASIN ANALYSIS OF BASIN 20 DONE BY FREEZING NICHOLS.

AND THIS AREA WAS SHOWN AS THE WORST CASE FOR INI WITHIN THE CITY.

AND SO WE INTERNALLY, UH, SAL AND NICOLE PUT TOGETHER THE BID SPEC AND WE DEALT WITH THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB FOR US PREVIOUSLY, UH, WITHIN THE CITY DOING PIPE BURSTING WORK.

AND THEY GAVE US THE QUOTE FOR THIS AND THIS WHAT WE'RE RINGING FORWARD AND IT IS A GOOD VALUE FOR WHERE IS BASIN 12? BASIN 12 IS SOUTH OF, UH, PLANTATION THERE, THE BALSAM AREA THAT, THAT WHOLE LITTLE QUADRANT DOWN THERE.

THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S A MAP.

THERE'S A MAP ON THE END ON PACKET.

PAGE ONE 13 THERE.

SMALL BLOW IT UP.

RIGHT, RIGHT SIDE, BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.

OKE ALRIGHT.

BEHIND THE DAIRY BAR.

BACK OFF IN THERE.

YES SIR.

BETWEEN, BETWEEN 3 32 AND, AND, UH, PLANTATION.

AND I DID MENTION EVEN THOUGH THIS IS APPROACHING A MILE AND A HALF OF SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT WILL BE REPLACED, WE WILL PROBABLY NOT SEE A LARGE REDUCTION IN FLOWS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT OUT THERE.

SO EXPECTATIONS ARE, ARE NOT SET TOO HIGH FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

IT'S GONNA TAKE SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THIS WELL BEFORE WE START SEEING THOSE GRU PEOPLE HAVE AN EMERGENCY REPAIR OF SINKHOLE AND FAILING MANWAY AND IT, IT WILL HERE.

YEAH, I KNOW.

GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.

SO WE ARE, WE ARE REPLACING LINES ALL THE WAY TO, TO, UH, SO UM, LIFT STATIONS AND STUFF INSTEAD OF YES, YES.

FOREST OAK.

WE HAD THE FAILURE RIGHT AFTER.

SO IT'S EVERYTHING IN, IN THAT AREA THAT MOVES SEWER IS GOING TO BE NOT INCLUDING THE LIFT STATION, BUT UP TO THE LIFT STATION.

UP TO THE LIFT STATION.

AND R R'S CHALLENGED BEFORE HE CAN LEAVE THIS CITY IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LIFT STATIONS WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

YES SIR.

AND THEN THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS TRENCHLESS.

BUT IS THIS ALL GONNA BE TRENCHLESS WORK OR ARE THEY GONNA IT'S IT, YES SIR.

IT'S ALL PIPE BURSTING.

UH, AND IT'S SOUTHERN TRENCHLESS IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY.

WE JUST NOTIFY 'EM OF IT AND WE ARE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND RES HAVE WORKED WITH THEM AS WELL, ERICA.

AND WHAT WOULD THE CITIZEN SEE FROM A DISRUPTION OF SERVICE? UM, REALLY NOTHING.

NOT NOT MUCH.

THE DAY THAT THEY'RE MAKING HALF A DAY.

HALF A DAY? YEAH.

THE DAY THAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE COMING IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

UH, FIRST THEY'RE GONNA RUN A CAMERA THROUGH THE LINE TO DETERMINE WHERE EVERYBODY'S CONNECTION IS INTO THAT LINE, MARK IT.

THEN WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THE PIPE BURSTING, THEY WILL GO AND DIG UP THE AREAS WHERE THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE AND TIE THOSE FOLKS BACK IN.

THAT TYPICALLY ALL HAPPENS WITHIN ONE EIGHT HOUR PERIOD.

UH, SOMETIMES THEY ASK FOR YOU TO NOT USE WATER IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

OTHER TIMES THEY'LL OPEN IT UP AND YOU CAN JUST LIVE LIFE NORMALLY.

SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY SEE THAT AREA AND WHAT CHALLENGES THEY HAVE IN THAT AREA.

NOW FOR SOME CHANCE IF WE OPEN UP THEIR CONNECTION AND WE FIND OUT THAT THEIR CLAY PIPE IS JUST CRUMBLING,

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AND WE'RE PUTTING IN A NEW CLEAN OUT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

WE CANNOT GO ONTO THEIR SIDE.

SO WE WILL NOTIFY THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO THE CLEAN OUT NOW WILL BE THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE CLEAN OUT RIGHT OF WAY LINE THE 16.

SO WE'RE GONNA PUT A CLEAN OUT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR EVERY PRO, FOR EVERY HOME.

THAT WAY IF, IF THERE'S A BACKUP, WE PULL THAT CLEAN OUT CALF, WE KNOW IT'S ON OUR SIDE.

IF IT'S ON IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE DONE THAT.

WE DID NOT, I DON'T THINK WE DID THAT IN THE FOREST OAK.

SO NO, THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

THAT IS, THAT IS OUR NEW STANDARD THOUGH, FOR NEW HOMES GETTING BUILT.

CORRECT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? NO SIR.

TAKE A MOTION.

ITEM FOUR, MR. MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR THAT WE APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN TR SOLUTIONS, UH, AS PRESENTED AND DISCUSS.

HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SECOND.

UH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN.

WAS IT RENEE? YEAH.

HANYA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OFF TO ITEM FIVE AS APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 4 9 5 8.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE JUMP

[5. Approve Resolution #24-958, authorizing the City Manager to accept the Hazard Mitigation Grant from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) through the Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM) under Texas Severe Winter Storms in February 2021, in the amount of $2,772,000 with a city contribution of $642,181.18 as a local matching fund. - Bryan Sidebottom ]

UH, AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE HAZARDOUS, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL, FROM FEMA THROUGH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT UNDER THE TEXAS SEVERE, UH, WINTER STORMS, UM, IN FEBRUARY OF 2021 AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,772,000 WITH THE CITY CONTRIBUTION OF $642,181 AND 18 CENTS, UH, AS A LOCAL MATCHING FUND.

BRIAN? YES.

BASICALLY DURING, UH, THE WINTER STORM YURI HAPPENED, THE, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT CAME INTO PLACE AND WE PUT IN FOR FIVE GENERATORS.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE USED THESE FACILITIES IN THE PAST FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ISSUES.

UH, WE USED THE REC CENTER, THE CIVIC CENTER, OBVIOUSLY CITY HALL, UH, FOR THE INTER THE INTERNET AND ALSO OUR TWO, UH, WATER PLANTS.

THESE GENERATORS WOULD, UH, REPLACE ALL THOSE OR PROVIDE NEW ONES AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

AND THE REASON WHY IT'S GONE TO THE PRICE IS ACTUALLY WE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BUT THE INFLATION CAME INTO PLAY AND IT COST, IT WASN'T INITIALLY IN 90 10 AND BECAUSE THE ADJUSTMENT, 'CAUSE THE, THE, UH, GRANT ALREADY BEEN FUNDED, THE READJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION, OUR, OUR PORTION WENT FROM 10% TO 18.8% AND THE GOVERNMENTS WENT DOWN.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S AT THE 2,000,707 2000, I'M SORRY, $2,707,000 IS 600 AND, UH, 42 MAYOR AND MAYOR, MOST OF THE, ALL OF THESE ARE GAS GENERATORS? YES.

NOT DIESEL.

INITIALLY, WHENEVER YOU APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS, THEY, THEY'RE EXPECTING DIESEL TYPE GENERATORS, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THREE NATURAL GAS GENERATORS.

SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE WHO BUS TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THOSE TYPE OF GENERATORS AT THESE FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE WATER, FLOOD WATERS, THESE, UH, GENERATORS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, NATURAL GAS FLOWING TO 'EM.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO PROVIDE DIESEL TO YEAH, YOU DON'T WANT, DON'T WANNA MESS WITH DIESEL BUNKER TANKS, .

AND SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE 350,000 IN THE BUDGET.

UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, TO AMEND THE UTILITY CAPITAL FUND, 75,000.

THAT WILL THEN BE OUR MATCH FOR THE TWO GENERATORS AT THE WATER DISTRIBUTION PLANT AND THEN 250,000, UM, WE REORGANIZED OUT OF THE HALF CENT FUND.

THAT'LL BE THE MATCHING SHARE FOR THE GENERATOR OUT OF THE, UH, FOR THE RECREATION CENTER.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE USED RECREATION CENTER AS A SHELTER BACK DURING THAT STORM.

WE, WE PARTNER WITH SALVATION ARMY.

UH, OF COURSE IT LOST POWER ALSO.

AND SO THIS WOULD TRY TO PREVENT THAT.

AND THESE GENERATORS ARE GONNA BE LARGE ENOUGH TO POWER THE WHOLE BUILDING.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD ELECTRICIANS COME AND SPEC 'EM, MAKE SURE THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY FUNCTION, THE WHOLE BUILDING, NOT JUST A SET PORTION.

AND OF COURSE, ALL THESE GENERATORS WILL BE ON A PLATFORM SOME HIGHER THAN OTHERS.

UH, BUT THEY'LL ALL BE STATIONED, UH, AT A LOCATION WHERE IT, THEY'LL HOPEFULLY NOT EVER GET FLOODED.

THE OTHER BENEFIT IS, IS THAT AS WE LEARNED WITH THIS STORM HERE, IS THAT, UH, AND WE ALL KNOW EVEN WITH JUST STANDARD HUMIDITY, OUR BUILDINGS CAN'T, CAN'T LAST VERY LONG WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING.

THE ONE AT THE REC CENTER, IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLAR GENERATOR.

UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL AND WHENEVER YOU GET WATER INTO 'EM, YOU END UP WITH A SITUATION WE HAVE HERE.

SO NOW WE'LL HAVE GENERATORS TO WHERE IF WE DO HAVE ANY KIND OF WATER INTRUSION, WE CAN STILL HAVE POWER AND BE ABLE TO, UH, SAVE THOSE BUILDINGS, NOT RUN INTO EXPENSES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING INTO THIS TRIP HERE.

THEY'LL BE ON AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH WHENEVER THE POWER GOES OUT ONLINE, THEY AUTOMATICALLY KICK ON.

SO THESE GENERATORS ARE NOT MOBILE, THEY'RE FIXED.

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ANYBODY ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? AND AGAIN, IT TOOK US TWO YEARS TO GET THESE, SO, ALRIGHT, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU COULD SPEED THAT UP.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM FIVE, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO FOUR DASH 9 5 8 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE HAZARDS IN ATION GRANT FROM FEMA THROUGH THE TEXAS DIVISION, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TDEM UNDER THE TEXAS SEVERE WINTER STORM, FEBRUARY 2 0 2 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,772,000 WITH A CITY CONTRIBUTION OF 642,181 AND 18 CENTS AS LOCAL MATCHING FUND.

NOW WE GO TO, UH, ITEM SIX, CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 20 24, 20 25.

ALL RIGHT, SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND GO AHEAD AND READ THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE YOU READ IT.

UM, I'LL READ THAT PORTION THAT BUSTER JUST SAID.

COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UM, READ.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, AGENCY THROUGH THE TEXAS DIVISION EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT UNDER TEXAS SEVERE WINTER STORMS IN FEBRUARY, 2021, THE AMOUNT OF 2,000,772, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH A CONTRIBUTION OF 642,000 181 18 AS OUR LOCAL MATCH.

UM, OUR MATCHING COST SHARE WILL BE 18.81%.

OKAY, ALL MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[6. Call for public hearings for the fiscal year 2024-2025 proposed annual budget and the proposed tax rate of 0.325929/$100 on August 19, 2024, at 6:30 p.m. at 25 Oak Drive. – Sherri Russell]

UH, PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF, DO I JUST NEED TO READ THIS INSTEAD OF THAT? LET ME READ THIS.

UM, THIS IS CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON AUGUST 19TH, 2024 AT SIX 30 AT LAKE JACKSON, UH, CITY HALL 25 OAK DRIVE.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 20 24 25 TO DISCUSS A PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.3 2 5 9 2 9 PER HUNDRED DOLLARS, THE DIMINISH RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24 25.

THIS TAX RATE WILL INCREASE TAXES BY 3.26% ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

SO I NEED A MOTION, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL TO CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANYA.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE A DIS WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, ALSO AGAIN NEXT, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TOO.

SO, ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY.

OKAY, SO MOTION A SECOND.

ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A A AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ITEM SEVEN,

[7. Quarterly Financial and Investment Reports as of June 30, 2024. - James Bryson]

UH, QUARTERLY FINANCIALS AND INVESTMENT REPORTS.

JUNE 30, 20, 24 AND JUNE 30.

SEEMS A LONG TIME AGO, DOESN'T IT? YEAH.

UH, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN FOR YOUR THIRD QUARTER FINANCIALS OF JUNE 30TH.

THE FIRST PAGE IS YOUR MONTHLY INVESTMENT REPORT.

THIS IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO GIVE YOU, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY COMPLIANT WITH MY AUDITORS WHO WILL BE HERE NEXT MONTH ALREADY.

SO I KNOW.

FINISHED BUDGET AND THEN IT'S ALREADY AUDIT SEASON.

LET'S SEE HERE.

YOUR, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW POINTS.

YOUR TAX PULL WENT DOWN FOR THE QUARTER BECAUSE WE HAVE A UTILITY DEBT PAYMENT OF 1.6 MILLION IN APRIL.

THE, UM, TECHSTAR WENT DOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS A BOND DRAW FOR PROJECTS SUCH AS THE, UH, PARKS AND THE STREET, UM, UM, PANEL PROJECTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THAT WAS 1.9 MILLION.

WE DID THAT IN MAY, AND THEN IN JUNE YOUR CASH WENT UP IN FIRST NATIONAL BANK BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT PAYMENT FROM DOW AT THREE POINT, ALMOST $3.4 MILLION.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, 93.7 IN THE THIRD QUAR, UH, SECOND QUARTER AS OPPOSED TO THE 92.4 IN THE THIRD QUARTER.

SO, AND YOU CAN SEE ACROSS AT THE BOTTOM HOW THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, FUND NUMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON CASH?

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NO.

THE SECOND PAGE, YOU HAVE REVENUES AND YOU CAN SEE AT THIRD QUARTER, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AT 75% OR HIGHER.

WE WERE DOING REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE.

SALES TAX HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FLAT, LIKE WE'VE BEEN SAYING OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.

INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, SINCE WE RECEIVED THE PAYMENT IN JUNE, THEY WERE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT 'CAUSE WE GET TWO PAYMENTS PER YEAR.

EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING GREAT.

LICENSES AND PERMITS WERE DOWN, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES.

PEOPLE AREN'T DOING THE PROJECTS ON THEIR FOR, UM, PERMITTING LIKE THEY WERE.

BUT THE OFFSET TO THAT WAS THE INTEREST EARNINGS THAT WE WERE RECEIVING SINCE INTEREST RATES WERE HIGHER ON THE MISCELLANEOUS, THE NUMBER THERE, 56 OF THAT WAS AMBULANCE INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT FOR, UH, THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY.

I'M HAVING GISELLE CHANGE THAT TO AN ACCOUNT FOR JUST INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENTS.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A, A CLEARER ITEM FOR Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF JUST MISCELLANEOUS.

AND LIKE WE SAID, PROPERTY TAX WAS GOOD.

SALES TAX, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE GET FROM OUR PROVIDER, HDL AS TO WHERE, WHO, WHO PROVIDES THE SALES TAX FOR THE MOST PART.

AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT THIS YEAR AS FAR AS PAYROLL FOR THE THIRD QUARTER, AGAIN, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AT 25% FOR THE QUARTER.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING WAS WITHIN MINE.

SO PAYROLL TAX, UH, PAYROLL EXPENDITURES WERE RIGHT WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE WITH REGARD TO BUDGET.

WATER, WASTEWATER SALES, AGAIN AT 99% OF BUDGET FOR THE THIRD QUARTER.

SO EVERYTHING WAS GREAT WITH THAT.

UH, PAYROLL FOR UTILITIES, SAME, EVERYTHING'S UNDER 25% OF EXPENDITURES.

SO EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING WELL FOR THAT MOTEL OCCUPANCY.

IT'S WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.

AND THEN BONDS.

AND FOR THE QUARTER, UM, THERE WAS SOME DRAW DOWNS FOR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, THE PARKS AND THE, UH, PANEL REPLACEMENTS.

AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME FOR THE, UM, UH, INDUSTRIAL OF THE, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, UTILITIES FOR THE, UH, ENGINEERING COST FOR THE, UH, THE LIFT STATION.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW AFTER THE STORM.

UH, WE'LL GET SALES TAX NUMBERS IN SEPTEMBER FOR JULY.

SO AT THAT POINT WE'LL KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STORM DID TO US ON THE SALES TAX.

BUT OVERALL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO FINANCIALS? SO NOTICE ON YOUR INDUSTRY SEGMENT UN UNIDENTIFIED WAS 19%, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT'S THAT? WHICH ONE IS THAT? UNDER THE, UH, THE SALES TAX REPORT? YEAH.

INDUSTRY SEGMENT RANK AND CHANGE.

THE, UH, UNIDENTIFIED SAYS 19.4%.

OH, ON THE SALES TAX? YEAH.

OH, I CAN PULL THAT.

I ME PULL THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU.

NO, JUST, JUST CURIOUS IF YOU KNEW ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

NO SIR.

NO, NO, BUT JUST, JUST CURIOUS.

BUT I WILL FIND OUT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF UPDATES, HURRICANE UPDATES, CITY MANAGER.

[8. Staff Updates]

WELL LET ERIC TALK ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DEBRIS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STILL FOCUSED ON.

NOT ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN PULLED OUT TO THE CURB YET, BUT THEY HAVE REMOVED IT OUT OF THE DITCH LINE SO IT WILL NOT IMPEDE FLOW.

THROUGH, UH, CLOSE OF BUSINESS YESTERDAY, CROWDER GULF HAS BROUGHT IN 176,000 CUBIC YARDS OF VEGETATIVE DEBRIS.

THEY HAVE REMOVED 8,900, UH, YARDS OF MULCH TO THE LANDFILL AND HAVE REMOVED RIGHT AT 700, UH, DANGEROUS LIMBS.

AKA WIDOW MAKERS FROM TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THEY'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE.

ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE, THE PLANTATION AND SYCAMORE MAST ARMS WILL COME DOWN WEDNESDAY MORNING.

UH, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH TDOT TODAY ON ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT WE DID ASK THEM IF THEY COULD FIND SOME 35 FOOT MA ARMS THAT WE COULD BORROW UNTIL, UH, WE, WE HAVE A POTENTIAL WORKSHEET FOR REPLACEMENT OF, WITH CODES AND STANDARDS OF THOSE, UH, INTERSECTIONS.

WE WILL ALSO BE ATTEMPTING TO ADJUST DIXIE AND BRAZOS WOOD TO GET THAT LIGHT BACK UP AND FUNCTIONING BEFORE THE START OF SCHOOL NEXT MONDAY.

UH, AND THE REST OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROJECTS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THOSE WILL TAKE PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, TO RUN THROUGH THE PIPELINE.

DRAINAGE, UH, CINDY AND HER TEAM HAVE REMOVED DEBRIS AND TREES FROM GREATER THAN 50% OF THE DITCHES IN THE CITY.

UH,

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AND THUS FAR ON PERMITTING, WE HAVE ISSUED 226 HURRICANE RELATED BUILDING PERMITS.

ERIC, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, UM, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE THAT WE WILL END, UH, FREE PERMITTING FOR THE STORM.

AUGUST 3RD.

IT WAS 30 DAYS.

30 DAYS.

SO WHAT WAS THE END DATE? THE AUGUST 3RD? I THINK THE AUGUST 3RD WAS THE END DATE.

AUGUST 3RD WAS THE END DATE.

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING.

IS, IS CROWDER COMING BACK WHEN EVERYTHING'S SAID DONE TO GET THE BIG, BIG TREES THAT ARE STILL ON THE GROUND LAID OVER? ARE THEY GOING TO YES.

TAKE CARE OF THAT ALSO? YES.

DUE TIME.

DO WE NEED TO EXTEND THE, UH, PERMIT PERMITS? LET US TALK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.

UM, I I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS THE END OF AUGUST.

IT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE STORM, 30 DAYS FROM THE STORM.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT THE NINTH.

WELL, THAT, THAT, YEAH, THE EIGHTH OR THE NINTH.

UM, SO DAY NOW WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW PERMITS.

REQUESTS ARE STILL TRICKLING IN FROM THE STORM, SO IT MIGHT BE OKAY.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW, SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY DAMAGE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DIFFICULTY PEOPLE ARE HAVING WITH INSURANCE ON GETTING, GETTING APPROVED TO DO ANY KIND OF WORK YET.

SO THAT MIGHT BE JUST SOMETHING, LET JUST TALK, UH, TOMORROW, UM, AND SEE IF WE MAY EXTEND THAT.

WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE PERMIT REQUEST RATE HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND IF IT'S STARTING TO TAPER OFF.

UH, BUT I MEAN, I DO KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE OUR FENCE, OUR ROOF AND ALL THAT STUFF, I JUST HEARD FROM TEXAS WIND STORM THIS EVENING.

SO I MEAN, IT'S IN, OUR ADJUSTER CAME OUT WEEKS AGO.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD KILL US TO DO ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

NO, I, IT WOULDN'T.

UH, AND AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE STORM RELATED, SO IT'LL BE, IT WON'T BE A, A GREAT AMOUNT.

UH, AND THE FENCE PERMITS ARE FREE ANYWAY.

SO THERE'S NO, UM, FEE SYSTEM.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT THAT WAS WHAT THE TIA REPRESENTATIVE SAID TODAY.

SHE SAID THEY ARE INUNDATED AND JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE, THE CLAIMS THAT THERE WAS A LOT, WELL, MOST LIKE, UH, LET, I'LL LET COUNSEL KNOW, UH, TOMORROW.

UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, EVERYBODY WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO, TO MOVE IN THAT DATE.

AND THAT WOULD BE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH.

YEAH, I WOULD PROBABLY DO ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

AND I DIDN'T ASK FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL, UH, THE LAST TIME.

UM, WE'LL JUST LOOK AT IT, EXTEND IT FROM MONTH TO MONTH AND SEE HOW THAT GOES.

YOU JUST DID AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S NOT A BIGGIE.

MOST OF THE DAMAGE IS INSURANCE COVER.

THEY ALSO COVER HER FEES.

YEAH, THEY DO.

SO I MEAN WE, BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT, THAT DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE IN THERE ANYWAY, SO IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A BIG, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG ISSUE FOR HER.

SO LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST WATCH IT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

SPEAKING OF THAT, WITH CROWD, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED? CROWD OR GULF? YES, SIR.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS DON'T HAVE INSURANCE IN THE BIG TREES OR PARTIALLY ON THEIR PROPERTY AND ON THE CITY PROPERTY.

WILL THE BIG TRUCKS PICK THAT UP OR THEY WOULD LEAVE IT OR WILL WOULD THE IT IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF A TREE.

IF IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN, IF IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN AND THE ROOTS ARE SHOWING YEAH.

AND THE ROOTS ARE CUT OFF.

YES SIR.

IF THE ROOTS ARE STILL ATTACHED TO THE GROUND, THEY CANNOT TAKE THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT PULL UP, RIGHT? A WATER LINE, SEWER LINE, GAS LINE, SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT IF THE BALL IS COMPLETELY EXPOSED, IT CAN GO AWAY.

UH, YES.

AND, AND WE'VE, WE'VE DEALT WITH SOME OF THOSE ALREADY.

BUT, BUT I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, IS, IS IT, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE, I MEAN, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR STORM DEBRIS TO BE TO THE CURB, SO IT NEEDS TO BE AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN.

'CAUSE IT CAN'T BE, THEY CAN'T BE REACHING 35 FEET INTO YOUR PROPERTY AND STUFF.

SIR, THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY CALLED TODAY AND SHE WAS UPSET ABOUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT AND POSSIBLY AND WITH THE CITY KIND OF HELP HER OUT IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

SO YES, SIR.

AND, AND IT'S UP TO THE MONITORING FIRM THOMPSON, TO UH, VERIFY IF THAT IS AN ELIGIBLE POLL OR NOT.

THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET TO.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE HURRICANE? , UH, ROBIN, A LOT OF THAT AREA IS PARKS LAND THAT'S CONSIDERED PARK LAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

UM, IF IT'S KIND OF RIGHT THERE, WE'RE PULLING A LOT OF THAT OUT, ESPECIALLY, AND WE WE'RE GETTING THE, THE STOMPS OUT IF THEY'RE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GROUND AND WE'RE PULLING THEM UP TO THE CURB FOR CROWDER GULF TO PICK UP RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'S, WE STILL HAVE SHE ON THAT STREET, SO YEAH, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ONE.

THERE'S STILL SOME

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SO 100 BLOCK OF WALNUT.

OH YEAH.

THE OTHER THING IS I'VE VERIFIED WITH, UH, CENTERPOINT WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY WHENEVER THEY, THEY NOTIFIED US THAT THEY WERE COMING IN, STARTING THEIR REPAIR WORK AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THEY SAID, OKAY, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS CHOP AND DROP.

SO THEY CHOP TREES, DEBRIS DOWN, LET IT FALL AND STUFF.

BUT THEY ARE COMING BACK WITH, UH, CREWS TO EVENTUALLY REMOVE WHAT THEY CUT DOWN.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TIMING AND IT'S ALSO GONNA INCLUDE THE CREWS COMING IN AND DOING ANOTHER CUT THROUGH THE CITY, UH, FOR, UH, CUTTING BACK VEGETATION, UH, JUST BASICALLY LIKE THEY DID WITH, UH, NICHOLAS AND STUFF.

BUT, UH, AGAIN, JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMING ON HOW QUICK THEY'LL DO THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, NOTHING ELSE ON THE STORM.

ARE WE WATCHING ANOTHER POTENTIAL WAVE OUT THERE? UH, I WONDER IF YOU BRING NO.

, GET YOUR WES BOARD OUT.

BRIAN.

BRIAN'S GONNA DISCUSS THAT ONE.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THAT STUFF.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOTTA PAY ATTENTION TO THE AFRICAN COAST AS IT COMES ITS WAY INTO THE CARIBBEAN, BUT OBVIOUSLY DOLLY HIT TODAY, UH, HURRICANE DOLLY IN, IN, UH, FLORIDA, AND SO THEY'RE HAVING A LOT OF FLOODING AND STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT AT THIS TIME.

BUT YEAH, UH, OUR SEASON REALLY HASN'T STARTED FOR ANOTHER WEEK, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EIGHT WEEKS, UH, BASICALLY FROM AUGUST 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH IS OUR TIMEFRAME.

AND AROUND SEPTEMBER 11TH OR 12TH IS OUR PEAK PERIOD.

SO HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IT.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF, SO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF FEMA CLAIMS AND LOOKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE GET A SECOND STORM.

DO WE START OVER? IS IT IN ADDITION TO, IT'S, HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, TECHNICALLY YOU'D HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CLAIMS. UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE CLAIM GOING ON NOW AND ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES WITH THAT, THEN ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER WHOLE NEW BALLGAME.

NOW HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE KEY TO THAT TOO.

UH, IN ORDER TO GET THE FEMALE INVOLVED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FEDERAL DECLARATION, RIGHT? AND, AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE TO MEET THE THRESHOLD, UH, THE FINANCIAL THRESHOLD OF THE COUNTY AND AT THE STATE LEVEL IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED.

SO WE JUST MET THAT WE HAVE TO YES, FOR THIS, WE, IT WOULD START ALL OVER AGAIN.

WE MEET A SECOND TIME.

YOU START ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO IT'S LIKE YOU WELL, WE'RE GONNA PAY OUR DEDUCTIBLE AGAIN.

ALL ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

SALLY GOT ANY QUICK, UH, UPDATES ON CAP PROJECTS.

UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY ACTION ITEMS COMING IN, UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS WE HAD NO.

AND STUFF.

AND THEN SO, UH,

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ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PARTICULARLY ABOUT CAP PROJECTS? INTEREST IS THAT WE DID COMPLETE, UH, POURING THE, UH, WILLOW DRIVE PORTION THAT WAS MISSING.

SO THE SCHOOLS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO DRIVE OVER THAT THING.

UH, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE CURBS, BUT AT LEAST THE, UH, TRAVEL BOYS ARE GONNA BE OPEN.

AND THEN I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE 36 INCH PIPES THAT ARE SITTING OVER THERE OFF OF, UH, SYCAMORE.

WHAT WOULD, THAT'S, UH, CENTER POINT PROJECT.

THAT IS A CASING THAT IS BEING PUT IN UNDER THE ROAD, ALL GOING ALL THE WAY FROM CHLORINE ROAD ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO SYCAMORE AND, UH, FIVE SIX INCH CONDUITS PVC CONDUITS FOR, FOR ELECTRICAL PURPOSES, ELECTRICAL FEEDS ARE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT CASING.

DO DOING THIS THUMB, DID, DID WE HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF FLOODING LIKE WE USUALLY DO ON GARLAND DRIVE AND ALL BACK IN THAT AREA? UH, THE, THE TYPICAL FLOODING THAT OCCURRED, I MEAN, YES, THERE WERE SOME STREETS THAT WERE UNDERWATER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, UH, NOTHING BEYOND WHAT, UH, WAS NOT EXPECTED THERE IN THAT AREA.

THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARY PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD WERE OVER HERE, DOWN IN SOUTH POND WHERE THE WATER JUST YEAH, I KNOW.

I LIVE AROUND THE CORNER, BUILT UP AND PULLED UP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL THE CREEK ACTUALLY STARTED PROCEEDING AND, AND ALLOWING THE WATER TO GO THROUGH.

I NOTICED THAT WHAT CAUSED THE CREEK TO STAY UP A LOT LONGER THIS TIME.

ALL THE DEBRIS, THE CREEK, ALL THE DEBRIS IS OKAY.

CORRECT? YEAH.

AND AGAIN, WE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, UH, AT THE WORKSHOP, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER LINDER IS, UH, IS WORKING ON THE CREEK ISSUE AND SO HE'S, HE AND I HAVE TALKED A FEW TIMES AND, AND SO WHAT WE FOUND OUT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING IS, IS THAT THE PERMIT THAT THEY HAD TO DO THE CLEARING OF THE CREEK SEVERAL YEARS AGO IS STILL ACTIVE.

AND SO THEY CAN STILL OPERATE UNDERNEATH THAT.

SO THEN THERE, THE COUNTY'S GOING BACK TO FEMA, UH, TO SEE IF THAT, UH, UH, INSTEAD OF CALLING IT A PROJECT TO GET IT AS, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO THINGS IS IN THEIR CONTRACTS, THEY HAVE WITH THEIR, UH, THEIR DEBRIS COLLECTION PEOPLE.

THERE'S A COMPONENT OF IT IS REMOVING OBSTRUCTIONS FROM WATERWAYS.

AND SO THEY'RE HOPING THAT THEY CAN USE ONE OF THEIR CONTRACTORS TO REMOVE THE DEBRIS AND THAT THE FEMA WILL SAY YES, IT'S PART OF THE,

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UH, RECOVERY.

AND, UM, SO THEY'RE JUST, THE LAST THING I HEARD WAS HE'S WAITING FOR TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST AND, AND THERE'LL BE A 25% THAT WE'LL WE'LL SHARE WITH THE COUNTY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ASSESSMENT ON THE ACTUAL, UH, TREE CONDITION ALONG THAT, UH, MOTORWAY.

OH YEAH.

SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS.

UH, PEOPLE ARE TAKING IMMEDIATE, UH, CARE OF THEIR OWN LOTS RIGHT NOW AND WHATEVER HAPPENS DOWN UNDERNEATH THERE, THEY DON'T.

SO I UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T SHOP POND ANYMORE, IT WAS LAKE SHOP POND, .

AND I THINK THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT, THE ONLY, I SHOULDN'T SAY PEOPLE, THE ONLY, UH, ANIMALS THAT WAS HAVING A GOOD TIME WAS THE DUCKS INSTEAD OF ANYBODY ELSE.

THEY WERE, BUT THEY WERE ALSO GOING HUNGRY.

WITH ALL THE WATER TAKEN CARE OF.

I MEAN TAKING ALL THEIR FOOD SUPPLIES YEAH.

AWAY.

SO, ONE OTHER QUICK THING STORM WISE.

SO PRIOR TO THIS STORM, WE WERE KIND OF POISED WITH, WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED MODESTO TO CONTRACT FOR A MILLION DOLLARS WITH CROWDER GULF AND WE HAD SOME OF THAT STUFF IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE STORM.

DO WE NEED TO BE READDRESSING THAT FOR ANY ADDITIONAL STORMS? UM, YES.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE THE CAP OFF.

UH, I MEAN, IT WASN'T REALLY A CAP.

IT WAS, THE APPROVAL WAS I HAVE UP AUTHORITY UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THEN ANYTHING AFTER THAT COME BACK TO, TO COUNCIL AND WE MAY EITHER INCREASE THAT AMOUNT OR, OR, UH, REMOVE IT.

REMOVE IT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY HAVE GONE OUT FOR BID.

AND THE CONTRACTS PREPOSITION THE COST IS THE COST.

UH, AND THEN I, I'LL JUST KEEP, UM, COUNSEL INFORMED.

BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN.

OH, COMMUNITY ITEMS, ITEMS IN COMMUNITY INTEREST.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T TURN THE PAGE.

I'M IN A RUSH HERE.