* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT WHO TO CALL, WHERE TO MEET. I NEED [* This meeting was joined in progress *] [1. Discuss preparing an ordinance to protect citizens from price gouging for services such as roof repair, fence repair, and tree and debris removal during declared emergencies. – Vinay Singhania] A NEW ROOF. I NEED A NEW FENCE. I'M WATCHING THE PRICE OF A SQUARE OF SHINGLES GO UP $20. I'M WATCHING THE LABOR GO FROM $30 TO $40 A LINEAR FOOT ON A FENCE THAT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND. AND I CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPTION TO, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA HAVE CATTLE PANEL AND T POST FENCE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, SO THE PRICES GO BACK DOWN. UM, IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME AS WHAT THE STATE HAS ENACTED WITH FUEL AND WATER AND FOOD. AND I MEAN, I'M VERY AGAINST OUR LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT GETTING INVOLVED IN, IN THAT ASPECT OF OUR CITIZENS' BUSINESS. AND THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. SORRY. YEAH. IF YOU GO TO, UH, UH, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S PAGE AND YOU READ THE DOCUMENTATION, THEY TALK ABOUT, THEY GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND OF WHY AND HOW THE LAW THAT'S IN PLACE IS THERE. AND, UH, BASICALLY, AGAIN, THEY, THEY VERY SPECIFICALLY KEPT IT TO ESSENTIALS, UH, THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE. AND, UH, THEY STAYED AWAY FROM ALL THESE OTHER, UH, ITEMS THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE BRINGING UP. THEY'VE STAYED AWAY FROM THOSE. UM, IT ALSO GOES FURTHER AND IT EXPLAINS HOW, UH, IN ANY SITUATION THAT YOU SHOULD, THAT YOU CAN, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN PRICE GOUGED ON YOUR ROOF REPAIR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S A PROCESS AS YOU CAN GO THROUGH TO ADDRESS THAT. AND, BUT AGAIN, WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TELLS YOU IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS YOU SHOULD GET AT LEAST GET THREE BIDS AND USE THOSE BIDS, UH, TO DETERMINE IF YOU'VE HAD PRICE GOUGING OR NOT, OR AGAIN, OR IF THEY DIDN'T DELIVER ON THE SERVICES THAT AND, AND GET A CONTRACT. AND, UM, AND THAT IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE SERVICES THAT YOU CONTRACTED FOR, WELL THEN THAT'S WHAT, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS THERE TO DO, TO TAKE CARE OF. BUT, UM, AGAIN, I, I JUST SEE THAT EVEN IF WE WANTED TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD, WHICH I DON'T SUGGEST THAT WE DO, IS THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING VERY DIFFICULT TO ESTABLISH AND VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO MANAGE AND TO POLICE. AND, UM, IT'S JUST, UH, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A LEVEL OF, OF INVOLVEMENT THAT, UH, I JUST DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR, FOR, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED IN. SO I, I DO TEND TO AGREE THAT THE PROCEDURALLY AND THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. BUT I, I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE STATE STATUTE, AS I READ IT, IS NOT LIMITED JUST TO CORRECT EMERGENCY GOODS. IT SAYS FUEL, FOOD, MEDICINE, LODGING, WHICH IS A SERVICE MM-HMM. BUILDING MATERIALS, CONSTRUCTION TOOLS, OR ANOTHER NECESSITY. SO I THINK IN THE, IN THE SITUATION YOU'RE DESCRIBING, IF THERE'S A TREE IN YOUR ROOF OR WHATEVER, IF YOU, YOU COULD ARGUABLY MAKE THE CLAIM THAT THAT'S A NECESSITY AT AT LEAST ARGUABLY MAKE THAT CLAIM AND, AND FILE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. AND, UM, UNDER THAT CATCHALL, UM, ANOTHER NECESSITY. UM, WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THOUGH, IS THAT, LIKE WITH WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, IS, IS THEY, THEY SET A DOLLAR AMOUNT. YEAH. NO, I'M NOT. SO, SO ONCE IT, ONCE IT'S DECLARED, IF IT GOES UP MORE THAN A DOLLAR, THEN IT IS A PRICE GOUGING SITUATION OR, UH, WHATEVER THE VALUE IS. SURE. AND SO, SO AGAIN, THOSE ITEMS, IT'S VERY EASY TO, THEY DON'T GO INTO EXPLAINING WHAT A PRICE OF PLYWOOD SHOULD BE AND SO FORTH. SO AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A CASE TO SAY THAT HISTORICALLY PLYWOODS BEEN SELLING FOR $75 ABOARD, UH, A SHEET, AND NOW IT'S $110. AND SO, AND MAYBE THAT AND MIGHT NOT EVEN QUALIFY AS EXORBITANT OR EXCESSIVE 'CAUSE AS IT TALKS ABOUT IN HERE, JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE HIGHER DOESN'T MEAN IT'S EXORBITANT. BUT I, YOU COULD, YOU COULD AT LEAST ARGUABLY MAKE A CLAIM UNDER THE FACTS THAT YOU DESCRIBED WITH THE STATE. AND IF, IF THE STATE IS TAKING THAT POSITION, THEN ANY, ANY ORDINANCE WE WROTE WOULD BE SUPERSEDED ANYWAYS. RIGHT. UM, SO YEAH. I, I TEND TO THINK THAT IF, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU REALLY HAVE A FACT PATTERN, YOU THINK RISES TO THAT LEVEL THAT I, I STILL THINK THE, UH, ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT. AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY BETTER EQUIPPED TO, TO TRACK THINGS THAT, LIKE THE HISTORICAL COST OF FUEL AND FOOD AND, AND ALL OF THAT. AND, UM, MAKE UP THAT DETERMINATION FOR THEMSELVES. I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY EXTREMELY SYMPATHETIC, UH, FOR THE SENIORS, ESPECIALLY, UH, AS MUCH AS THE SENIORS, UH, UH, GET INVOLVED OR, OR SUBJECT TO SCAMS. AND, UM, IT'S NOT EVEN SENIORS ANYMORE. IT'S EVERYBODY GETS, UH, CAN BE SCAMMED, BUT SENIORS GET, GET IMPACTED. AND WE, THE THING IS, WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT. YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY [00:05:01] AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE FORCE CAN'T, THERE'S VERY LIMITED THINGS THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN DO ASSOCIATED WITH SCAMS, UH, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S ALWAYS ELEVATED UP TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION ON IT. WELL, THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE NOT GO CHASING HIM DOWN OR ENFORCING THE RULE. IT'S JUST A DETERRENT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IS SUCH A THING THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO DO THAT. I MEAN, THE DERE DETERRENTS ONLY GOOD IS IF YOU CARRY A BIG ENOUGH STICK. AND SO IF YOU JUST HAVE AN ORDINANCE OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE, IT'S NOT A DETERRENT, IT'S JUST, IT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER. SO ONE THING THAT MAYBE TO LOOK AT VERNA'S POINT A LITTLE BIT THAT WE PROBABLY COULD DO WOULD BE EDUCATION. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KIND OF HAVE BROUGHT UP WITH BURL IN THE FIRST PLACE, IS LET'S START VERY EARLY EDUCATION VIA LAURA MARIE OR FACEBOOK PAGE OF, YOU KNOW, UM, THINGS TO LOOK FOR, SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO GET BIDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, LIKE, I'VE NEVER HAD TO BUY A NEW ROOF BEFORE. SO, I MEAN, IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS ON ALL OF IT. UM, AND I THINK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH US PUTTING JUST FACTS AND EDUCATION OUT THERE, UM, TO HELP EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS TO MAKE GOOD CHOICES. YEAH. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I'M, THE, WHAT I WAS TOLD IS, IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE ROOF, GETTING A ROOF LATER ON, ONCE YOU PUT THE TARP ON IT, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. YEAH. SO TO ARRIVE AT THAT POINT, THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED. THERE ARE EMERGENCY. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO GET SHOPP, THREE DIFFERENT BIDS TO WORK ON THIS. OKAY. A TREE LAYING ON YOUR YARD AND IT'S RAINING AND POURING WATER COMING AND DESTROYING MORE OF YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY. SURE. SO IT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME HERE. AND I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT TO, UH, HAVE MORE THINGS TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. I, BUT WE GOTTA HAVE SOME HAPPY MEDIUM SOMEWHERE TO HELP FOLKS, UH, WOULD SAY THAT THEY NEED HELP. YEAH. SO, WELL, I MEAN, I, AND I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF IT. AND AGAIN, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IT'S NOT THAT THE HELP IS NOT NEEDED AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE PROVIDED BY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE PROVIDED NECESSARILY. BUT AT A GOVERNMENT LEVEL, THAT IS WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE FOR. THAT'S WHAT OUR CHURCHES ARE FOR. THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, IS TO STEP IN AND HELP THESE PEOPLE. AND I SAW A TON OF THAT DURING THE STORM OF, HEY, I GOTTA CHAINSAW. LET ME COME HELP, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 80-YEAR-OLD NEIGHBOR, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOSTERING. NOT MORE RULES AND MORE LAWS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE NO TEETH. UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT YOUR, YOUR HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE WITH IT. I WOULD JUST MAYBE SUGGEST, LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE GO ABOUT HELPING IN ANOTHER WAY. HMM. IN ANOTHER WAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK EDUCATION GOES A LONG WAY. AND I MEAN, THERE'S EVEN EDUCATION TO BE DONE LONG BEFORE A DISASTER HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, WE LOVE THE BIG OLD OAK TREES, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT GOOD TO, I MEAN, I PAID A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GET ONE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE I WAS WORRIED IT WAS GONNA FALL ON HER HOUSE. UM, I MEAN, SOME OF THAT HAS TO BE OUR OWN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PROPERTY AND TO PREPARE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. AND IT'S, AND, AND AGAIN, GOING DOWN THE, THE ROAD OF, UH, EDUCATION AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PREPARING PEOPLE FOR WHENEVER DISASTER OCCURS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A ROOF ON. AND, UH, SO I HAD, UH, KNOW SOMEONE THAT THEY HAD THEIR HOME, UH, ROOF WAS DAMAGED. AND SO, UH, THEY HAD SOMEBODY WALK BY AND SAID, HEY, I CAN DO, I CAN REPLACE YOUR ROOT FOR, FOR, UH, UH, $10,000. I SAID, THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, SO WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE? AND THEY SAID, WELL, THEY'RE PUTTING MY ROOF ON. BUT I SAID, DOES THAT INCLUDE TAKING CARE OF THE WINDSTORM? FINDING WINDSTORM AND DOING ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF? GETTING, GETTING IT INSPECTED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, NO. WELL, I SAID, YOU BETTER GO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION IS EDUCATING PEOPLE, IS IS THAT IF YOU DO HAVE ROOT DAMAGES, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR, DON'T TOUCH PRICING, BUT AT LEAST EDUCATE PEOPLE OF SAYING, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU NEED TO ASK IF YOU NEED YOUR ROOF REPLACED. RIGHT. UH, DURING, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EVERYBODY THAT'S GOTTA HAMMER AND CAN CLIMB ON A ROOF. IT'S GONNA BE COMING JUST LIKE WITH, WITH, UH, TREES. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT HAD A CHAINSAW COULD GO BUY ONE. THEY WERE WALKING AROUND WANTING TO CUT UP A TREE. AND HONESTLY, IF I WANTED TO BE AGGRAVATED WITH ANYBODY IN ALL THIS, IT WOULD BE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. THAT'S WHERE YOUR REAL PROBLEM'S AT. ALRIGHT. NO, HE'S ONE THAT'S, UH, ITEM TWO, I THINK. YEP. ITEM YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT ITEM TWO? CORRECT. ON THE AGENDA, ACTUALLY. UH, ACTUALLY THIS ITEM THAT [00:10:01] WE'RE DISCUSSING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. COME ON. JUST, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU'VE HAD YOUR HANDS IN MY STOMACH. SO WE'RE MY GALLBLADDER. GALLBLADDER, OH, DIDN'T HAVE, YEAH, HE'S A DOCTOR. WE DO ALL, WELL, YOU DO SKULL PAINTED OUTSIDE. THE HANDS AREN'T GOING INSIDE. WE GOT, GOT FOUR LITTLE DOTS. WE, WELL, BASICALLY, I THINK THE POINTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED IS SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE. I'M NOT FOR BIG GOVERNMENT BY ANY MEANS, BUT I AM CONCERNED WHEN WE HAVE A, UH, I PREPARED A STATEMENT. I'M GOING TO READ IT BRIEFLY AND THEN I CAN GIVE YOU MY, UH, OPINION. IN MY OPINION, THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY DURING NATURAL DISASTERS AND DECLARED EMERGENCIES. THIS PAST JULY, OUR COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES THE IMMENSE POWER AND DAMAGE A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE CAN CAUSE. SOON AFTER THE STORM, MANY PEOPLE CAME TO OFFER SERVICES THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY NECESSARY AND ESSENTIAL, BUT AT AN EXTRAORDINARY PRICE. MANY OF US NEEDED TREES AND BRANCHES REMOVED FROM OUR PROPERTY SO WE COULD BEGIN THE RECOVERY PROCESS. IN MY PERSONAL SITUATION, I HAD MANY BRANCHES AND NEEDED REMOVAL. A CONTRACTOR THAT I RECENTLY HIRED FOR LAWN CARE OFFERED TO CLEAR MY PROPERTY FOR $5,000. I BELIEVE THIS PRICE WOULD BE EXCESSIVE. SO MY WIFE AND I ENDED UP CLEARING OUR PROPERTY BY OURSELVES. IT TOOK US A TOTAL OF 10 HOURS. SO LET'S DO THE MATH. WE WERE GOING TO BE CHARGED $500 PER HOUR BY THE CONTRACTOR. WE ALSO HAD OTHER DAMAGES THAT NEEDED REPAIRS, WINDOWS, ROOF, CHIMNEY, ET CETERA. I ALSO KNOW OF NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT EXPERIENCED SIMILAR INJUSTICE. THE TEXAS STATE LAW IS CLEAR, BUT LEAVES A VAGUE, UH, SITUATION. AT THE END OF IT, IT SAYS THAT AFTER A DECLARED EMERGENCY SELLING OR LEASING FUEL FOOD MACHINE OR ANOTHER NECESSARY, UH, NECESSITY AT AN EXORBITANT OR EXCESSIVE PRICE, AND IT IS SUBJECT TO CIVIL PENALTY. AND ALSO, UH, UH, AND IF YOU'RE OVER 65, THE PENALTY IS HIGHER. AND THIS IS, UH, STATUTE 17.4627. UH, SO IT LEAVES A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, VAGUE STATEMENT AT THE END. UM, I'M REQUESTING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WORK TOGETHER TO PREVENT THIS FROM OCCURRING IN THE FUTURE. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, RHONDA, THAT EDUCATION WOULD GO A LONG WAYS IN TEACHING OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY DO HAVE OPTIONS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE FIRST BID. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU ARE, IT, IT IS RAINING, IT'S FLOODING, YOU DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION, THE PHONE DOESN'T WORK, YOU DON'T, YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T WORK, AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BRANCHES AND TREES IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. AND ROADS ARE A BLOCK, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMBER CREEK AREA WHERE I LIVE. AND SO, UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT FOR BIG GOVERNMENT BY ANY MEANS, BUT I DO THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM. AND I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT SERIOUSLY. AND I DO THINK THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS BESIDES GOVERNMENT NECESSARILY GETTING INVOLVED. BUT I THINK IF EDUCATING THE, THE CONTRACTORS THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES IF IT GOES TO A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT ARE SERIOUS. UH, WE HAVE A HISTORY OVER HERE. ONE OF OUR GAS STATION OWNER SHUT HIS GAS STATION DOWN DURING AN EMERGENCY AND LET THE OTHER GAS STATIONS RUN OUTTA GAS. THEN HE OPENED HIS GAS STATIONS UP AND CHARGED EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY. HE WAS FINE AND HE COULDN'T SELL GAS FOR A WHILE. SO THIS, THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, A FIRST TIME EVENT. THIS IS OCCURRED. SO LET'S LEARN FROM OUR PAST. LET'S NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES TWICE, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. SINHA. ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? NO, SIR. IS THERE ANY ACTION YOU WANNA DO AT THIS TIME OR JUST, UH, ON IT? UH, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST PROPOSE THAT WE, UH, HAVE SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT DURING, UH, IMPENDING EMERGENCY, SUCH AS A HURRICANE OR SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDE US EDUCATION MATERIALS, UH, THROUGH, UH, PERHAPS COOPERATION WITH THE FACTS AND, UH, ONLINE. AND, UH, AND, AND SOMETHING TO, TO EDUCATE OUR FOLKS THAT WHAT'S AVAILABLE. AND IF OTHER FOLKS, CONTRACTORS ON THEIR SIDE WILL SEE THAT INFORMATION, UH, THEY WILL REALIZE THAT AND, UH, PERHAPS NOT ACT IN THOSE, UH, THOSE ACTIVITIES, PERHAPS, UH, WHEN THEY ISSUE PERMITS, TO HAND THOSE OUT TO THEM. UH, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WILL USE THAT ARTICLE THAT, THAT YOU MENTIONED TO, UH, PERHAPS ENFORCE THOSE, UH, RULES AND, UH, PENALIZE FOR THEM FOR IT. YOU CAN CERTAINLY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THE, THE LANGUAGE AND, AND YEAH, THE TEXAS STATUTE AND HOW TO, HOW TO FILE CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ALL THAT AND PROVIDE LINKS AND YEAH, THEY'D BE SMART. AND I THINK NOW'S PROBABLY THE TIME TO START THAT EDUCATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHILE ALL THIS IS FRESH AND WHY PEOPLE [00:15:01] AREN'T, LIKE YOU SAID, IN A HEIGHTENED STATE OF DISTRESS OVER THINGS, BUT IT'S STILL FRESH ENOUGH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY START THINKING, HMM, MAYBE I SHOULD KEEP A COUPLE OF TARPS IN MY GARAGE. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT TO PREPARE AS WELL. BUT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, IF THE COMMUNICATION IS AVAILABLE, THERE IS A BLUE TARP NUMBER, UH, THAT YOU CAN CALL AND THEY'LL COME AND TARP YOUR HOUSE FOR YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE. THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE, ONCE THE SYSTEMS ARE DOWN, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN ACCESS ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, YOUR INTERNET IS NOT WORKING, YOUR PHONES ARE NOT WORKING. SO, RIGHT. BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY IN BASIC HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, WE'RE ALL TOLD HAVE ONE TO PREPARE TO BE ON YOUR OWN FOR ONE, ONE AT LEAST A WEEK OR TWO. WE'RE TOLD THAT IN, IN EVERY HURRICANE EDUCATION PROGRAM I'VE EVER SEEN OF, YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED WITH FOOD, YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED WITH WATER, WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS. UM, I MEAN, THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY JUST PART OF LIVING ON THE GULF COAST AND, YOU KNOW, LET STAFF WORK ON SOMETHING ONE OF JUST TO HAVE IT ON THE READY OF A FACEBOOK POST OR A WEBPAGE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT WE CAN ALSO WORK IF WE DO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, WE CAN ALSO, UM, THROW IT TO THE COUNTY WHO PREPARES A MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY BROCHURE EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR EMERGENCY, UM, UM, I GUESS OPEN HOUSE. AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING IF THEY LIKE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME UP WITH, UH, ON AN EDUCATION COMPONENT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE AVENUE THAT YOU HAVE, IF YOU THINK THAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED PRICE GOUGING THERE AND WHAT YOUR RECOURSE IS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT TO, TO WATCH FOR. UM, AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ON THE ROOF REPAIR, WHY WE WAIVE PERMITS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF A REPAIR'S BEING DONE, IT'S BEING DONE CORRECTLY. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT CONCERNED WITH THE, THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT A CITIZEN'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, PROPER WORK THAT IT IS GONNA MEET, YOU KNOW, THE CODES. BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK, WE COULD START SOMETHING TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, UH, AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, AND SEE IF YOU LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING THERE. BUT I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT, A LOT OF SERVICES ARE DOWN. MAYBE WE, YOU KNOW, DURING HURRICANE SEASON WITH THE BROCHURE GOING OUT, PEOPLE CAN HAVE THAT IN THEIR HAND, YOU KNOW, IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, OUR ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP LIKE ON THE STEER PROGRAM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UH, IN PARTICULAR, UM, THERE'S JUST, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND, UM, I MEAN, LIKE DR. SINHA WAS, HAD ENOUGH SENSE. HE WASN'T PRICE GOUGED BECAUSE HE SAID, NO, I'M NOT DOING THAT, AND SENT 'EM ON THEIR WAY. SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO RELY ON OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE SOME SENSE. OKAY. IF YOU, IF YOU, IF COUNSEL IS OKAY, LET US TAKE A STAB AT IT AND WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK, UH, TO YOU. YEAH. THE OTHER THING Y'ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS, IS WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING INTO A HURRICANE SEASON. HAVE REMIND SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 10TH OR 11TH. IT'S EITHER GONNA BE YOU OR MODESTO ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT ALWAYS WITH THE GOOD NEWS, NEWS, MR. POSITIVE HERE SEPTEMBER 11TH. BUT SO I DID. SO WHAT REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT IS THAT WE, WE PROBABLY CAN'T GET IT OUT EARLY ENOUGH, RIGHT? SO WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE A STAB AT IT AND START PASSING OUT SOME, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE. UH, RIGHT NOW, NO. I, I HAD NO INTENTION OF, UH, SENDING, WE'LL, WE'LL START TO WORK ON IT IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. I KNOW WILL DO A GREAT JOB GETTING THAT OUT THERE. SHE'S DONE. THAT'S WHY I KEEP ON LOOKING TO WHEN I MADE A COMMITMENT. . ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT, WE'LL [2. Discuss and consider the first reading of Ordinance 24-2289 revising fees charged for water, sewer, garbage, and dumpster services. – James Bryson] MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM TWO. OKAY. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE READING. UH, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER, UH, 2 4 2 2 8 9, REVISING THE FEES, CHARGES FOR WATER, UH, SEWER, GARBAGE, AND DUMPSTER SERVICES. MR. IT'S GOT, OKAY, MODESTO, HE PUNTED TO YOU. UH, JAMES DID. YES. UM, MAYOR, THIS IS, UH, BACK FROM OUR, WE'VE, UH, COUNCIL VOTED AND APPROVED, UH, THE BUDGET FOR, UH, UTILITIES. AND IN THAT REGARD, UM, WE NEED TO, UH, ADOPT THE RATES, UH, FOR WATER AND SEWER. THESE WERE THE RATES THAT RECOMMENDED FROM OUR, UH, UTILITY RATE, UH, STUDY. SO WE HAVE THOSE OUT OUTLINED. AND, UH, IN YOUR PACKET, WHAT THOSE WILL BE, UH, THE CORRECTION MADE FROM THE MEETING LAST TIME WAS, AGAIN, THE SENIOR RATE. THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR MYSELF IS TO, UH, TRANSITION FROM A PERCENTAGE TO A HARD DOLLAR RATE. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE BASE RATE CHANGES. AND IN ADDITION, THE CORRECTION THAT WE HAD WAS WE HAD, UH, DID NOT, UM, INCREASE THE 5% FOR THE COMPACTORS. AND THOSE GO ALONG WITH, [00:20:01] UH, THE, UM, THE 5% INCREASE FOR THE THREE TO FOUR YARD DUMPSTERS. AND THEY'RE JUST PICKED UP A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT, UM, OR IN A DIFFERENT COMPACTOR. BUT THEY ARE PICKED UP, UM, IN THAT, THAT SAME, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, CAPACITY. UM, I THINK THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES, OR THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE FROM THE LAST MEETING. AND THIS AGAIN, UH, THIS WILL REQUIRE TWO READINGS. AND SO IF YOU DO HAVE THAT EXCUSE, UH, ANY, UM, WE USUALLY DO READ THE, WE DON'T SUSPEND ON, ON FIRST ON ON THESE, UH, THIS IS THE ONE WE DO, UH, ON TWO READS. OKAY. SO IF YOU MAKE AN ADOPTION TONIGHT, IF THERE'S ANY MINOR CHANGE THAT CAN BE CORRECTED AT THE, AT THE SECOND RATING, MODESTO, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS. SO NUMBER NINE, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE ROLL OFFS AND THE COMPACTORS. MM-HMM. . UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET MEETING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL ROLL OFF DUMPSTER SERVICES AT THE CITY, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT. WHEN IS THE EARLIEST THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT? I THINK, UH, MY GOAL IS TO, WHETHER OR NOT WE STAYED WITH IT, BRIA BRING A DECISION PACKAGE PROBABLY AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. OKAY. UM, I'VE, UH, MISSED, UH, SANDY PUT A MEETING WITH, UH, DAVEON WHO DID OUR, UM, RATES THIS TIME AND DID A, YOU KNOW, A, AN ANALYSIS OF THE ROLL OFFS. I JUST HAVE HIM CALCULATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WOULD, UH, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND DO WE DO IT AS A, ERIC HAS EX, UM, EXPERIENCE AS A PERMIT IN GALVESTON AND RHE HAS AN EXPERIENCE, UH, OF IT CHARGING AS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. SO I WANNA LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE AND SEE, UH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, UM, GO IN IF WE KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT AHEAD OR HOW FAR BEHIND WE WOULD GET. I, I THINK, UM, THE POSITIVE THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT, UH, FOR IS NOT SO MUCH FROM THE REVENUE STREAM AS, AS THE FREEING UP MANPOWER FOR ACCOUNTING AND THE FRONT DESK WHERE WE DON'T EVEN ALL, WE DON'T EVEN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OR WE HAVE IT IN THE PAST OF THOSE COSTS INTO THE RATE STRUCTURE. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IS HE'LL HAVE SOMETHING BACK TO US JANUARY BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, I THINK, THINKER, I THINK IT'S EARLIER THAN WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE, BUT THAT'S, I'LL TAKE IT. THAT'S THE GOAL. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE READ THE ORDINANCE AND TAKE A MOTION? ALRIGHT. UH, DO YOU WANNA READ THE ORDINANCE? THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS AMENDING SECTION 1 0 2 0.1 OF THE CODE ORDINANCES BY REVISING THE FEES TO BE CHARGED FOR WATER, SEWER, GARBAGE, AND DUMPSTER SERVICES, AND WATER AND SEWER TAP FEES. REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR A SAVING CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALRIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MAKE, MAKE TAKE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE AS RIB FIRST READING. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ORDINANCE 24 DASH 2 2 8 9. REVISING FEES. CHARGE YOU FOR WATER, SEWER, GARBAGE, AND DUMPSTER SERVICES. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUELL. SECOND. SECOND, COUNCILMAN BROADUS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. YES. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT I FAILED TO ADD WAS THAT, UH, MR. STAFF WE'RE WORKING ON A LETTER TO THE CITIZENS THAT WE PUT IN THE WATER BILL DESCRIBING WHAT THE RATE INCREASE IS AND WHY. UH, OKAY. UH, WE'VE NOT HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, BUT THIS IS SUCH A LARGE INCREASE AND AN IMPORTANT INCREASE. WE WANTED TO COMMUNICATE THAT AND KIND OF HAD IT OFF, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE CAN VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ONCE PEOPLE START GETTING BILLS, THEY WAS LIKE, WHY IS IT, YOU KNOW, SO DIFFERENT. CAN WE EXPLAIN WHO BWA IS AND HOW WE GET OUR WATER IN THAT LETTER? BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE REALLY DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I'LL TRY. UM, MY GOAL WAS TO KEEP IT TO ONE PAGE 8.1, BUT I'LL, YEAH, I MADE DO THAT. I MAY PUT IT AT 8.5. YOU SAID THE OTHER, OTHER MEETING. HOW MUCH PERCENT DO WE GET FROM BWA? DON'T, WE DO, DON'T WE SUPPLY THE MAJORITY ON A DAILY BASIS. WE'RE PROBABLY 60%. BWA 40%. UM, YEAH, WE COULD TAKE ON MORE, BUT, UM, UH, WE DO TAKE ON MORE THE, THE BLEND CHANGES DURING THE SUMMER, UH, THAN IT IS, UH, DURING THE WINTER. BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL IT'S PROBABLY 60 40. 60 40. YEAH. AND REMEMBER IS THAT, UH, ALL THE CITIES, UH, ALL THE PARTIES ARE INVOLVED ARE ON, IN A TAKE OR PAY TYPE [00:25:01] CONTRACT. YEP. SO YOU EITHER TAKE IT AND USE IT, OR YOU'RE GONNA PAY, YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT REGARDLESS IF YOU TAKE IT OR NOT. WELL, AND WHY, AGAIN, DID WE ANYBODY AGREE TO THAT? THAT WAS AGREED BACK WHEN THINGS WERE STARTED? YEAH, IT WAS. SO BW CONTRACT IS COMING UP IN A COUPLE YEARS, YOU SAID? FOUR YEAR. YES. UH, AND WE WILL BE RENEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, THAT AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY LOOK AT, UH, IF POSSIBLE, IF THERE'S, IF WE CAN LOWER OUR RATE AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER CUSTOMER OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO PICK, YOU KNOW, PICK THAT UP. I KNOW THE REASON FREE PORT'S AGREED WITH SURFSIDE TO SELL SOME OF THEIR ALLOTMENT. UH, TO QUICKLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS, IS THAT, UH, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A RESOURCE THAT YOU WANT TO GUARANTEE SUPPLY ON, THAT'S WHY YOU GET INTO A TAKE OR PAY TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE SO YOU CAN PROFITABLE, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT. GOTCHA. OKAY. UH, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT BENEFITS THEM FOR IF THEY WANNA MAKE THE INVESTMENT. I'M SURE IT WAS DONE THAT WAY BECAUSE WHEN THE INVESTMENT WAS MADE TO BUILD THE FACILITY AND GET IT OPERATIONAL, THERE WAS A CERTAIN COST OF PUTTING IT IN PLACE AND THEN MAINTAINING IT. AND THAT'S WHERE THE TAKER PAY CAME. UH, AND THE WAY, IF I READ THE CONTRACT CORRECTLY, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO BCCA WHEN IT WAS TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AT THE END WAS, IS THAT, UH, EVERY PARTNER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE VOLUME THAT THEY TAKE. BUT THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, AGAIN, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IS TO SAY, UH, IS IF A CITY WANTS TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT THAT IS IN THEIR TAKE OR PAY, ANOTHER CITY HAS TO FIRST AGREE TO TAKE THAT ON. SO AGAIN, IT'S COVERS, COVERS THEIR COST, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO STAY OPERATIONAL. YEAH. AND WE MAY EXPLORE THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH ANGLETON GROWING, UM, MORE SO THAN THE OVERSEAS, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SELL SOME, TO SELL SOME OF OUR, OR, OR AT LEAST TAKE SOME OF OUR ALLOTMENT. WHAT WE'VE, AND ALSO WHAT WE'VE FOUND WHEN MODESTO SAID WE CHANGED THE BLEND IS, IS THAT WE FOUND THAT, UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WHENEVER MR. LONGORIA WAS, UH, ON THE BOARD REPRESENTING US, HE WAS ALWAYS GIVING BILL A HARD TIME. 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T TAKING EVERYTHING. WE WERE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE. AND IT WAS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, ANSWERING TO THE REQUEST OF CITIZENS OF IMPROVING THE TASTE AND THE SMELL AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, WHICH YOU HANDLE THAT BY BLEND. AND ALSO WHERE THEY'RE SOURCING IT FROM, WHICH THEY HAVE NO, THEY HAVE BWA HAS NO CONTROL OVER WHERE THE WATER IS SOURCED FROM. UH, DOW DOES THAT. UH, AND, UH, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 'CAUSE THEY CONTROL THE RESERVOIRS AND SO, SO, UH, BUT, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A TAKE OR PAY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO, WE CAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE THAT, I'M SURE. SO, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THE NEW CONTRACT COMING UP, UH, AND THE SHORTAGE OF WATER SUPPLY INTO THE PICTURE, THAT THIS STUFF MAY BE MORE DETRIMENTAL TO US THAN, UH, FAVORABLE TO US. SO WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ON, UH, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS A LONGER TERM CONTRACT OR EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACT BECAUSE, UM, WITH THE CURRENT MARKET OF WATER SUPPLI, IT'S, UH, IT DOES NOT SOUND GOOD. WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, OKAY. WATER'S WE'RE, WE'RE OFF THE AGENDA. I FINALLY WOKE UP. WE'RE OFF THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S WATER RELATED. . IT'S, IT'S OUT THERE. BUT SINCE, SINCE RETRIEVE SHUT DOWN, WE STILL DOING THE TRUSTEE CAMP. UH, WE SUPPLYING AND TAKEN, WE ARE TREATING, UM, WASTEWATER, BUT IT'S VERY MINIMAL. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS SHERRY'S GONNA SHUT US DOWN FOR THE FEES TO COME FROM. WELL, THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS A FEE. THIS ONE'S FEE RELATED. UM, BUT WE, UH, OUR REVENUE STREAM, UH, SHUT THE MAIN UNIT DOWN. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PITTANCE ON WHAT, 800, WHAT IT WAS. MY COMMENT WAS REGULATED AS WELL. 'CAUSE IT COULD HAVE A FUTURE IMPACT ON RATES. MM-HMM. . YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE EXCUSES TO ME. YOU JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY. . ALL RIGHT. OKAY. [3. Cast votes for the Texas Municipal League Intergovernmental Risk Pool Board of Trustees election. – Modesto Mundo] STILL TRUE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE. SHE CAN DO, WHICH WILL BE EVEN MORE FUN. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS, UH, YEAH, WE GOT A DO YOU HAVE A, I THOUGHT WE DID, DID WE VOTE? NO. OH, NO. MM. YES. Y'ALL, Y'ALL MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, DID THEY VOTE FIRST READ? YES, SIR. OKAY. DID WE VOTE? NO. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES, EVERYBODY, I WROTE A PROOF. I THOUGHT WE HAD IT FINISHED BEFORE, UH, YES. THE MAYOR'S CORRECT. BEFORE YOU ASKED YOUR QUESTION OR MADE YOUR STATEMENT. THE MAYOR'S ALWAYS CORRECT. NO, I'M NOT ALWAYS CORRECT. SHERRY, I'M STARTING TO SLIP. SHERRY MESSED ME UP. YES. I'M SORRY. MR. BUREAU MOTION. IT'S NOT FINAL 'CAUSE SHE'S RIGHT. BROUGHT US SECOND TO APPROVED. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. UH, ITEM THREE IS CAST VOTES, UH, FOR TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. ENTER GOVERNMENTAL RISK POOL, [00:30:01] BOARD OF TRUSTEES ELECTIONS. AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANY, DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS OR SHARE? I DO KNOW ONE, BUT HE'S RUNNING UN POST, SO I RECOMMEND THAT. NO DOUBT OF MUCH HELP. HAS A HARD DECISION. , I DO NOT KNOW. LET'S DEBATE THAT ONE. OKAY. . SO CITY MANAGER. SO THIS IS ON THE RISK POOL GROUP. SO THIS IS, AGAIN, THERE'S DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, DIFFERENT BOARDS AND STUFF. AND, AND, UM, AND THIS IS REALLY, THIS IS THE, UM, SO THIS IS NOT TML THIS IS THE INSURANCE, UH, COMPANY. SO THEY ARE SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS. OKAY. UM, BUT THIS IS OUR INSURANCE CARRIER, BUT I, NO, I DON'T EVEN, WELL, IT, IT SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DENIED. WE GOT NO, UH, A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BEING APPROACHED ON. YOU'RE SAYING YOU ONLY KNOW ONE INDIVIDUAL. I ONLY, I ONLY KNOW MIKE. SO I MEAN, IF, WHEN WE COULD PUT THIS OFF UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, UH, DEFER THIS TO NEXT MEETING AND IF COUNSEL WANTS TO, TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, BUT THEY DO LIST WHO THE INCUMBENTS ARE. WHICH, UH, JUST, YEAH. SO R DID YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW HARLAN? JEFFERSON? MM-HMM. NO. YEAH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S EITHER, YOU'RE EITHER GONNA BE CITY MANAGERS OR CITY ATTORNEYS. THERE'S A FEW COUNCILMEN IN THERE. MEMBERS IN THERE, BUT OH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FINANCIAL DIRECTOR, FINANCE DIRECTOR, JAMES, YOU KNOW, MORE LAWYERS, RUDY. RIGHT. SHARE ZAPATA. MM-HMM. FROM SANTA FE. SEE HOW WE CAN COMPLICATE THINGS? ANYWAY, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO BE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU JUST SHARED. YEAH, I, I AND STUFF. SO WE CAN JUST PASS ON TO AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO WORK FOR. CAN WE DO THAT? YOU CAN. LET'S DO THAT. YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. WE'RE DONE WITH IT. MAKE THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANNA MAKE A MOTION. YEAH, I DID. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER OR TO, UH, DELEGATE TO THE CITY MANAGER. YEP. I'LL SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. BROADUS. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED IN. THAT WAS EASY. OKAY. . ALL RIGHT. SO WE MOVE ON TO ITEM [4. Cast votes for the Texas Municipal League (TML) Region 14 director of the TML Board of Directors. - Modesto Mundo] FOUR. THIS IS ANOTHER TML ITEM, AND I DO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THIS. UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS CAST VOTES FOR TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, REGION 14. DIRECTOR OF TML, BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THIS IS MODESTO'S GOT YOUR NAME BESIDES IT DOES, UH, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE, UM, I MENTIONED THAT THE MAYOR, I, I DON'T RUN AROUND IN THESE CIRCLES. YOU DON'T, THE MAYOR DOES. WELL, I KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW JOE ZIMMERMAN AND, UH, SO HE'S, HE'S THE MAYOR OF, UH, SUGARLAND. HE'S AN INCUMBENT, UH, GREAT GUY, UH, VERY, UM, HE'S, IF, IF, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AND HE'S AWARE OF IT, HE ADDRESSES IT. HE, HE, HE DOESN'T BACK DOWN FOR VERY MANY ARGUMENTS. SO, UH, I, I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, MAYOR ZIMMERMAN, UH, TO BE, UH, REAPPOINTED TO THIS POSITION, OR AT LEAST CAST OUR VOTE FOR HIM. SO, MR. MERRI, CAN I MOVE TO, UH, UH, VOTE FOR JOE ZIMMERMAN FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT, WHETHER THE REGION 14, DIRECTOR OF TML BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION WITH COUNCILMAN HANYA. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BHL. UH, ALL IN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WELL, THAT WENT A LOT QUICKER THAN I EXPECTED. YEAH, MAYOR ZIMMERMAN WAS, UH, HE'S, HE'S REMOVED HIMSELF FROM, UH, BC, UH, HGAC BOARD. UH, HE HAS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S REPRESENTING HIM NOW. BUT, UH, HE'S, HE'S, IT'S BEEN A BIG LOSS HAVING HIM COME OFF THAT BOARD, AND HE'S VERY, UH, VERY POSITIVE PERSON. MADE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN. ALL RIGHT. [5. Discuss and consider the reappointment of Duane Koch as the city’s BWA representative. – Modesto Mundo] ITEM, UH, ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTMENT OF DWAYNE, UH, COOK AS THE CITY'S, UH, BWA REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MODESTO. YOU HAVE ANYTHING SENT? THIS, YOUR HONOR, MR. COOK, UH, UH, AGREED TO, UH, FILL MR. LONGORIA'S, UH, SPOT LAST YEAR, UH, WHEN JUAN HAD TO BOW OUT, HE HAD, IT WAS, HE WAS IN HIS, UM, FIRST OF TWO OF A TWO YEAR, UH, TERM. SO MR. COOK IS, YOU KNOW, FILLED OUT HIS SECOND YEAR. UH, IN ESSENCE, UM, I THINK I, WE CONFUSED HIM WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HIM. AND HE THOUGHT HE ONLY HAD ONE YEAR LEFT. AND I ASKED HIM [00:35:01] WOULD HE BE WILLING TO SERVE ANOTHER TWO YEARS? UM, AND HE SAID, UH, HE'S, HE RESPONDED BACK, UH, YES, BUT ALSO WITH THE PROVISION. HE SAID HE WAS STILL A SHORT TIMER, THAT HE WASN'T A LONG-TERM, UH, SOLUTION, BUT HE DID AGREE IF COUNSEL WAS WILLING TO, UH, TO, UM, APPOINT HIM THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE. YEAH. AND JUST TO COMMENT FOR MYSELF IS THAT, UH, A FEW TIMES I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO HIM EITHER, YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE PASSING OR, OR A PHONE CALL TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. HE'S VERY RESPONSIVE. UH, HE'S, HE'S BECOME VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT A LOT OF OPERATIONS THERE. UM, AND IF HE DOESN'T KNOW THE ANSWER, HE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN FIND OUT AND I RESPECT THAT. UM, SO, UH, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UH, REAPPOINTING HIM FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS. BUT DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OR ASK A QUESTION OR COMMENT? MM-HMM. ALRIGHT. NO, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WHOEVER WE REPRESENT, THAT'S MR. COOK, JUST THAT WE STAY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH HIM. WE'VE, UH, WE'RE SCHEDULING A MEETING. WE'RE TRYING TO, GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE A MEETING. ONE, YEAH. CONFIRM. IT'S CONFIRMED. OKAY. ON MONDAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MODESTO, AND I'LL MEET WITH HIM MONDAY. AND THEN, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING, UH, HIM AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM BWA, UH, TO THE COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT, UH, UH, SOME THINGS. UH, SO THAT'S COMING IN, FUTURE MEETINGS SOON. OKAY. AND AGAIN, BILLION HE DOES NOT WISH TO SERVE, RIGHT, . ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, OKAY. SO I NEED A MOTION ON THIS, MR. MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT, UH, THE REAPPOINTMENT OF DWAYNE COOK AS THE CITY'S BWA REPRESENTATIVE. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION, COUNCILMAN SETH. AND SECOND FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN HANYA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OH GOSH. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE OTHER ONE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ONE WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON. THIS IS ASKING FOR NOMINEES. SO WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME HERE YET. SO, UH, DISCUSS [6. Discuss and consider nominating candidates for the Brazoria County Appraisal Board (BCAD). – Modesto Mundo] AND CONSIDER, UH, NOMINATING CANDIDATES FOR BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. UH, MODESTO, YOU WANNA EXPLAIN IT BETTER TO ME? YES. UH, SO, UH, EVERY, UM, VOTING ENTITY, UH, UM, OR TAX ENTITY HAS A CHANCE TO NOMINATE UP TO, UH, FIVE, UH, CANDIDATES. UM, AND I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE IS, UM, OCTOBER 15TH. UM, AND SUBMIT THOSE. AND THEN ONCE THOSE ARE ALL NOMINATED, THEN THE APPRAISER BOARD COMES BACK FOR EVERYBODY NOMINATED AND SENDS THOSE OUT TO THE VOTING ENTITIES. AND THEN YOU CAN, UH, VOTE. WE HAVE 43 VOTES HISTORICALLY. UM, WE HAVE, UH, PLACED THEM FOR ONE, UH, PERSON NEXT LAST YEAR. I CAN'T REMEMBER. UH, YEAH, WE, UH, WE SUBMITTED THEM FOR, UH, GLEN JONES. GLEN JONES. ALRIGHT. UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OUR 43 VOTES, UH, PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE ISDS. YEAH. SO THE, IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. OUR NUMBER OF VOTES HAVE GONE DOWN. I SAW IN, UH, 2019 WE HAD 47 OTHER CITIES HAVE GROWN, GROWN. UM, UH, THEY'LL WIND UP THE VOTES GET REALLOCATED. LET'S SEE, I WAS TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE DEADLINE WAS. I THOUGHT IT SAID LETTER SOMEWHERE. I THOUGHT IT SAID, YEAH. AND THE TIMELINE SAYS, SO OCTOBER 1ST SUBMITS THE NAMES ADDRESSING THAT MEANS I, I I THINK IT'S THE OCTOBER 15TH. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE GOT, UH, ONE OR TWO MORE MEETINGS THAT WE CAN, UH, IF YOU WANNA TALK TO SOME PEOPLE AND SEE IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN BEING APPOINTED, UH, WE CAN DO THAT NOMINATED, RATHER A NOMINATED. AND, UH, IF NOT, WE CAN, UH, LET'S AIM FOR GETTING THIS DONE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. SO WE'LL PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. YEAH. YEAH. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY, UH, WE CAN, UH, TALK ABOUT IT. THEN AGAIN, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE, THE, THE THREE ELECTED INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST JOINED IN. SO I HAVEN'T, I DON'T KNOW, HAS ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE THREE? I HAVEN'T TALKED TO E STAY. IT WAS JUST A WOMAN OF THE YEAR OR PERSON OF THE YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. ALRIGHT. I NOMINATE BILLIONAIRE. YEAH. YEAH. . [00:40:01] ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK. THAT'S AN ACTION, GUYS. OKAY. NEXT TIME. ALL, [7. Discuss and consider approval of a contract amendment with HR Green, Inc. for enhanced construction phase services associated with the headworks rehabilitation project at the Wastewater Treatment Plant (WWTP) in the amount of $43,110 for a total contract amount of $191,360. – Eric Wilson] UH, ITEM SEVEN IS DISCUSSING AND SERIAL APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT TO HR GREEN IN INC. UH, FOR, UH, ENHANCED CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, HEADWORKS REHABILITATION PROJECT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $43,110, UH, FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $191 AND 3,190 $1,360. ERIC? YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL. THE ITEM WE HAVE FOR DISCUSSION TODAY IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT WITH HR GREEN FOR CONSTRUCTION, ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HEADWORKS PROJECT. UH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE. OUR CAPITAL HAS BEEN EXPENDED, AND WE NEED TO, UH, REVITALIZE THAT, WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S ONGOING. UH, STAFF INITIALLY THOUGHT WE COULD HANDLE THE INSPECTION AND OTHER RELATED SERVICES, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IT HAS PROVEN TO BE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR REALM OF EXPERTISE. UH, AND WE DO NEED THE ASSISTANCE OF THE DESIGN ENGINEER ON THIS ONE. AND THIS WOULD INCLUDES, UH, ANSWERING REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION, UH, EXTENDED PM SERVICES BECAUSE THE CONTRACT HAS GONE LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED. UH, ADDITIONAL SITE INSPECTIONS, UH, EVERY WEEK. AND, UH, SCHEDULE REVIEW AND INVOICING, UH, VERIFICATION FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN. MR. MERRILL, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH HR GREEN FOR ENHANCED CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATED WITH HEADWORKS REHABILITATION PRO PROJECT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $43,110 FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $191,360. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A COURT, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROADUS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL THANK YOU. APPROVALS. GRANTED. ALL RIGHT. [8. Staff Updates] WE HAVE STAFF UPDATES. MODESTO MAYOR, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. THERE SHE IS. . YEAH. BEHIND THE BIG SCREEN. BEHIND THE BIG SCREEN, ANNA SILVAS. UH, SO WE, WE NOW HAVE A ANNA AND ANNA, AND I'VE AT LEAST SCREWED THAT UP 10 TIMES, UH, IN THE LAST, UH, TWO WEEKS. SO I'LL LET ANA GIVE YOU A SHORT INTRODUCTION. SHE COMES FROM VERY FAR AWAY, UH, FROM THE CITY OF FREEPORT . HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANNA SILVA. UM, THIS IS DAY SIX FOR ME ON THE JOB. UM, I AM VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, UH, CLASS OF 2022 WITH MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC POLICY WITH A SPECIALIZATION IN GOVERNMENT RELATIONS. UM, AS MR. MUNDO MENTIONED, MY PRIOR ROLE TO THIS POSITION WAS, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FREEPORT AS A MAIN STREET COORDINATOR, FOCUSING ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, OF LAKE JACKSON, AND TO JUST WORK TO CONTINUE THE PROGRESS OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON. SO, THANK YOU ALL. UM, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING A LOT. WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU. YEP. I WAS ALSO, UH, QUITE ACTIVE IN THE, UH, LOCAL LULAC, UH, GROUP. YEP. AND SHE'S ACTUALLY QUIETER THAN MILFORD . THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. NO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS, UH, HURRICANE BUELL. . LOVE IT, MAN. I'M, THAT'S A FREUDIAN SPLIT. YEAH. BURL. ALRIGHT. TASMANIAN DEVIL. TASMANIAN DEVIL ON THAT SIDE, PAST THAT STAGE. I'M TOO OLD. ALL RIGHT. GIVE US AN UPDATE. UM, I, I DID, I DIDN'T DO A COMMUNICATION, BUT I DID, UH, GIVE YOU THE, UH, EXPENDITURE, UH, RUN, UH, THE OWED 800 ACCOUNT. UM, THIS IS WHAT, UM, OUR EXPENDITURES ARE TO DATE. THIS INCLUDES ENC, CUMBERSOME, IT'LL CHANGE AS POS WORK OFF. UM, BUT MOST IT'S, IT'LL STILL GO UP. UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S 6.6 MILLION. THE PREDOMINANT AMOUNT OF THAT IS THE PO FOR, UM, CROWDER GOLF, AND THEN [00:45:01] THOMPSON, UH, CONSULTING. AND THEN THE BIGGEST, THE OTHER BIG EXPENDITURE WAS, UM, SERVPRO. SERVPRO. UH, THOSE ARE THE THREE CONTRACTORS. SERVPRO WAS MAYBE 2 7, 2 5, 2 25, UH, FOR THEIR EMERGENCY RESPONSIVE, YOU KNOW, CLEANING UP THE THREE, THREE BIG FACILITIES. AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT IS FORCING CAL, UH, LABOR. UM, SO, UM, WE DID GET NOTIFIED THAT, UM, AND WE HAD OUR MEETING TODAY WITH, UH, FEMA COVERING CATEGORY C3 G. THOSE ARE APPROVED, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH DD, C AND C, UH, PUTTING OUR LIST, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER AND GETTING OUR, OUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER, UH, FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE BIGGEST ONE OUT OF THAT IS, AGAIN, IS GONNA BE THE REPAIR OF THE REPLACEMENT OF THE THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SMALL, MUCH, MUCH SMALLER IN COMPARISON TO, UH, TO THAT PROJECT. SO THAT'S THE, THE BIGGEST, UH, OF THE PROJECT STANDING. AND WE THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE THOSE. ERIC, CAN YOU REMIND ME? UH, THE ONE I KEEP ON REMEMBER IS THE ONE IS THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC LIGHT IN SYCAMORE, BUT WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE? SYCAMORE PLANTATION, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL AND YON Y YON AND, AND, UH, CD. AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, OTHER SMALLER REPAIRS. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MALFUNCTIONING, UH, SCHOOL FLASHING, UH, SIGNS. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF STREET SIGNS THAT ARE, TRAFFIC SIGNS ARE, BUT DOWN THERE WE'RE WORKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, STUMP REMOVAL, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR CATEGORY G REPAIRS OF THE GOLF COURSE, POSSIBLY FOR BUNKER GEAR. WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE LIST, UH, COMPARING A LOT OF, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST STARTED, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON, UH, TODAY. SO OUR GOAL IS WE MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH FEMA, UH, VIA, UH, TEAMS. AND THEN WE'RE NOW GOING TO MEET IN BETWEEN THAT WITH STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT. SO, UH, WE DON'T, UM, UH, MISS ANYTHING. BUT OUR DEADLINE, UH, TO GET OUR PROJECT LIST WAS NOVEMBER, NO, OCTOBER, I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER 2ND. NOVEMBER 2ND. SECOND. 60 DAYS FROM TODAY. OKAY. 60 DAYS FROM TODAY. SPEAKING OF LIGHTS, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THESE SCHOOL CROSSING, UH, IF WE STILL NEEDED THEM. THEY'RE AT, UH, PAUL, PAUL'S GOT THE DATA AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT AT YOUR NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. UM, UH, SO THEY'VE COLLECT, THEY'D COLLECTED THE, THE DATA. OKAY. ALRIGHT, GOOD ON THAT. WHAT FLASHING LIGHT FOR OCD FOR SCHOOL? THERE WAS NO LIGHTS THERE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA CHECK THAT OUT. THE FLASHING LIGHT? YEAH. NO SPEED. SCHOOL ZONE SPEED AROUND Y POND ON OCD, ORANGE CREEK DRIVE. EIGHT O'CLOCK. IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS FLASHING AT. THERE ARE NO LIGHTS. THERE ARE NO NO SCHOOL ZONE. SCHOOL ZONE ON OCEAN STREET CREEK DRIVE AROUND YON. YOU GUYS SAID YOU WOULDN'T LOOK INTO THERE THAT HOW COME IT GOT LEFT OFF? MAYBE WE COULD JUST MOVE THE ONE FROM BETWEEN WILLOW AND GO POND. JUST SCOOT IT DOWN. SCOOT IT. WE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THE SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS THAT HAD FLASHERS ON 'EM THAT ARE INOPERABLE. EITHER THE, UH, SOLAR ARRAY ON TOP OF IT IS GONE. THE CABINET ITSELF WAS STANDING. COUNCIL SI JUST REMINDED ME OF THIS WAS A DISCUSSION. WE HAVE SCHOOL ZONE, UM, FLASHING ON YON, RIGHT. COMING INTO OCD, NORTH SOUTH, BUT NOT EAST WEST. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EAST WEST. AND THE QUESTION WAS WHY, UM, THAT'S DROPPED OFF BY RADAR. SO WE HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT ONE. I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHY, WHY YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERSECTION. NORTH CREEK AND YOUR POND. YEAH. ALL I REMEMBER IS THEY'VE HAD CROSSING GUARDS THERE. I NEVER REMEMBER ANY, UH, SPLASHING LIGHTS. RIGHT. AND THERE SHOULD BE, WELL, IT'S BEEN, I'VE LIVED HERE 60 SOMETHING YEARS AND THEY AIN'T NEVER BEEN, I DON'T THINK IT'S DESIGNATED AS A SCHOOL ZONE IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S WHY IT WOULDN'T BE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY DROPPED THEY'D TO GO BACK. THEY'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MINUTES TO SEE WHY EVERYONE DECIDED TO STOP A SCHOOL ZONE AT A CERTAIN SECTION AND NOT THAT INTERSECTION. I DON'T, I DUNNO. BUT THAT I, I COMPLETELY MISSED THAT. I MEAN, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED IT. I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST BROUGHT THAT UP AS IT'S A ODDITY, YOU KNOW. HAVE WE HAD PROBLEMS, SIR? OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, YEAH. PREPARED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE FUEL. [00:50:01] IT IS. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT SCHOOL, WE'RE GONNA PUT THE CROSSING GUARDS ON THE NEXT AGENDA. WE'LL ADD THAT ON THERE AS WELL. AND WE'LL LET US DO SOME, UH, HERE'S, LOOK AT THE HISTORY. YES. HERE'S A HURRICANE QUESTION. AND THAT IS, IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A MEETING THAT LUNCH TODAY IS THAT, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IS, IS THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE HAD OUR, UH, CONTRACTORS COME THROUGH THAT THEY'VE PICKED UP AND THEY'VE LEFT BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY IS OVER. MM-HMM. . AND SO WE CAN'T USE THEM TO, TO CONTINUE TO PICK UP. BUT THE, WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS, IS THAT THERE ARE CITIZENS THAT ARE JUST NOW ABLE TO START GETTING STUFF, PULLING IT TO THE CURB, UH, BE IT, UH, UH, BRUSH DEBRIS OR THE BIGGEST THING I'M SEEING IS FENCES. AND SO, UH, AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, WE NEED TO COME UP, BE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA ABSORB OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ALL FAST ON. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ABSORB IT IMMEDIATELY FOR A SHORT TERM, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE'LL HAVE TO, TO SAY IT'S, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO NORMAL AND SAY NO, BUT WE HAVEN'T SAID NO YET. RIGHT. UM, BUT IT IS CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL. AND THE NORMAL ANSWER OUTSIDE OF A STORM IS THE FENCE CONTRACTOR IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE, IS RIGHT. IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT. AND WE DON'T PICK, PICK IT UP. AND WE'VE SEEN SOME MATERIAL COME OUT THAT'S CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL, PUT IN BLACK BAGS. AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T ARGUED, 'CAUSE THE, OUR CONTRACTOR WOULDN'T PICK IT UP 'CAUSE UM, UH, IF IT'S IN BAG OR IF IT'S NOT STORM RELATED. SO THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE SOMEONE'S PUT OUT CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL AND IT'S A QUESTIONABLE, WAS IT STORM RELATED? RIGHT. AND WE JUST HAVE NOT REALLY ARGUED WITH 'EM. BUT WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW THAT WE HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO STORM AT ALL. WE'RE BACK TO NORMAL BUSINESS. I GUESS WHEN IT GETS TO BRUSH IS IS JUST LIKE THE, WHEN THE CONTRACTOR CAME OVER THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STORM HAS BEEN, THE STORM CAME THROUGH LAST MONTH AND SO THE BRUSH OUT THERE IS GREEN. IT'S NOT STORM BRUSH. SO RIGHT. THAT SHOULD BE A, THAT SHOULD NOT BE A FREEBIE OR, OR PICKED UP BY THE COST, YOU KNOW, THE CITY. BUT IF IT'S A DEAD TRUNK THAT'S BEEN LEAN AWAY, YOU KNOW, GET TO, SO ANYWAY, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF REASONING, UH, SOME KIND OF, UH, SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE CAN, UH, SHARE THAT WITH PEOPLE TOO. AND ALSO ON THE PERMITS, UH, FREE PERMITS. DAVID, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN THE DEADLINE OR ERIC? THE NINTH. THE NINTH. NEXT MONDAY. NEXT MONDAY WE ARE START PRINTING ME. WE, WE WILL START CHARGING FOR PERMITS AGAIN. ALRIGHT. OKAY. LET'S MOVE OFF THAT TOPIC BEFORE WE GET IN MORE TROUBLE. UM, UH, ONLY ACTION ITEMS I HAD, UH, WAS, UH, AGAIN, WE UH, DELEGATED UH, THE TML UH, INTERLOCAL TO YOU, UH, TO NOT MAKE NOMINATIONS. AND THEN, UM, THEN WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK, UH, ITEM SIX, UH, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD. YES. AND THAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD ACTIONS. ALRIGHT. [9. Construction Updates] ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAL ON CONSTRUCTION UPDATES? NO. NOPE. NOTHING. SO WE BACK UP AND RUNNING. CONTRACTORS ARE BACK ON PROJECTS OR BASED HAVE TO RAIN. LET EM YES. BUT TODAY, OH YEAH. YEAH. DARN RAIN. OKAY. UM, OKAY. NO COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. [ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] UH, LET'S GO THROUGH ITEMS OF, UH, COMMITTEE INTEREST, UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BUELL. NO, NOTHING AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. COUNCILMAN SHANYA? NONE. COUNCILMAN BROADUS? NO, SIR. COUNCILMAN SETH. ONE LITTLE QUICK THING, JUST A CONGRATULATIONS TO CHIEF JASON MCCAIN. HE WAS NAMED ONE OF THE FAVORITE FIREFIGHTERS, UM, BY THE READER'S CHOICE AWARDS. AND, UH, I JUST KNOW THAT HE HANDLED OVER 70 CALLS HIMSELF DURING HURRICANE BURLE. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS VERY, VERY BUSY AND ALL OF THOSE GUYS REALLY WORKED HARD, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM. VERY GOOD. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. MM-HMM. , UH, I GOT SEVERAL THINGS HERE. UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, TOMORROW THERE'S A JOB FAIR AT WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S LOOKING FOR A JOB AND ALWAYS SEND THEM TOWARD, UH, THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, WE'LL BE THERE. WE WILL BE THERE. UM, JUST, UH, IF, IF YOU'RE WONDERING, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS ON UH, NINE 11, UH, REMEMBRANCE, UH, CEREMONIES WE NORMALLY HAVE AT THE CIVIC CENTER, BUT AS YOU KNOW, IT'S DOWN. AND SO ROBIN WAS WORKING ON IT TODAY. SHE MAY HAVE SOME. [00:55:01] ROBIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAILS ON THAT? I DON'T YET. UM, OKAY. SO LINDSAY, THE MUSEUM IS ACTUALLY GOING TO KIND OF TAKE PART IN THAT AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A WEEK LONG HISTORICAL THING. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA, IT'LL BE AT ALDEN DOWELL MUSEUM OF COURSE. 'CAUSE THE MUSEUM AND CIVIC CENTER AREN'T OPEN. SHE'S WORKING ON SOMETHING. MALLORY WAS OUT SICK TODAY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TOMORROW, A FLYER THAT WE'LL SEND OUT TO EVERYBODY. UM, SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH TO DO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH THE BILL AND STUFF, BUT THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING THAT. SO THEY'RE WORKING ON FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO? YES, THEY ARE. YES TO. ALRIGHT, GREAT. UM, A COUPLE MORE THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITH THE, OUR, UH, RECREATION GROUPS. UH, IS, UH, HANGOUT TEAM NIGHT IS, UH, SEPTEMBER 6TH FROM SIXTH TO 9:00 PM UM, ALSO, UM, COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, UH, UH, CENTER POINT IS DOING OPEN HOUSES, UH, WITH, UH, DIFFERENT AREAS ACROSS, UH, AREAS THAT THEY SERVICE. AND IN BRAZORIA COUNTY, UH, OURS, UH, THEIR OPEN HOUSE IS ON SEPTEMBER 14TH AT THE DOW ACADEMIC CENTER, UH, FROM 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM SO IF YOU WANNA GO THERE AND, UH, MEET AND, UH, TALK TO THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THEIR RESILIENCE PROGRAM, UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, THEY'LL SHARE THE INFORMATION, UH, TO THE EVERYONE THAT'LL SHOW UP. UM, INTERNATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS, UH, COMING OCTOBER, UH, OCTOBER 1ST, I THINK. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, FROM SIX A SIX TO 8:00 PM AND I KNOW THIS IS ONE THAT MATT'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IS, UH, PRINCESS, UH, MAKEOVER IS, UM, DON'T LISTEN. OCTOBER THE 12TH. BRING YOUR CHAPSTICK AND YOUR LIPSTICK AND EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S, THAT ONE'S ALWAYS SOLD OUT, SO YEAH, THAT ONE'S SOLD OUT TO YOU. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, UH, ALL THE THINGS. AGAIN, WE HAVE A GREAT REC DEPARTMENT. UH, THEY DO REALLY GOOD STUFF. AND, UH, IF I COULD GIVE Y'ALL AN AWARD, I'D GIVE YOU ONE. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. MODESTO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING STAFF? I DO NOT STAFF ANYTHING LIBRARY OPEN TODAY. OH, THAT'S GREAT. I HADN'T HEARD THAT. THAT'S GREAT. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO, WE'RE GONNA COME OUT OF, [EXECUTIVE SESSION] WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.074 A, UH, PERSONAL MATTERS TO DELIVERY, THE EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION AND DUTIES OF THE CITY. UH, ALTERNATES JUDGE, UH, CITY JUDGE, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE AFTER THAT. . GOOD MAYOR, WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE COMING OUTTA [RECONVENE AND TAKE ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION] EXECUTIVE MEETING AT, UH, 9 0 9 AND WE'RE COMING INTO GENERAL MEETING. OPEN REOPEN THE GENERAL MEETING AT, UH, THE SAME TIME. UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, OKAY. SO WE'RE UNDER RECONVENE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, TO SET AND FIX THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25, UH, COMPENSATION FOR, UH, COUNCIL, APPOINTING EMPLOYEES. THAT'D BE THE ALTERNATE JUDGE, CITY JUDGE, CITY ATTORNEY, AND CITY MANAGER. SO, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR WILL I HAVE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, SET THE SALARIES FOR COUNCIL APPOINTED, UH, PERSONNEL AS FOLLOWING MUNICIPAL JUDGE PART-TIME CONTRACT TO 27,000 0 37 PER YEAR. MUNICIPAL JUDGE, PART PART-TIME CONTRACT AT 71,550 CITY ATTORNEY, 192,451 PER YEAR. AND THEN CITY MANAGER 253,222 PER YEAR. SECOND, A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HANYA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BUELL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO. GIVE RHONDA ONE SECOND PLEASE. ONE SECOND TO, SHE'S DOING MATH. SHE'S SHARPENING HER PENCIL. I AM. OKAY. MODERN PENCIL. OKAY. SO WHAT WAS THE LAST NUMBER THAT YOU SAID FOR THE CITY MANAGER? 2 53. 2 2 2. OKAY, THAT'S, IT SHOULD BE 2 56. 2 2 2. COME ON. I'M READY YOUR MATH OUT. SEE IF I'M WRONG. WHAT? WHAT PERCENTAGES AREN Y'ALL? FIVE. OKAY. WAY TO GO. MODESTO. LEMME SEE SOMEBODY DOUBLE CHECK ME. I'M RIGHT NOW. HUH? SO THAT'S, UH, I MIGHT HAVE FAT FINGERED IT. OKAY. TWO. [01:00:04] YOU ARE CORRECT. 2 56. 2 2 2. SO I STAND CORRECTED IN MY MOTION. 2 65. WOW. 2 56. 2 2 2. YEP. I GUESS I, LUNCH. THAT'S BRIBING. YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. UH, WELL, YOU AMENDED, SO YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA SECOND AS AMENDMENT? YES. YES. OR DO WE JUST WANT TO, OKAY, JUST A SECOND. LET DOUBLE CHECK SOMETHING REAL QUICK. I AIN'T GOT GERALD STRESSED ABOUT ALL HIS MASKS. CH SENSORY CHICKEN THIS UP. ALL THE REST OF IT MATCH. OKAY. GOOD, GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OH, OH. SALLY HAS A QUESTION, A QUESTION. MAYOR, LAST YEAR Y'ALL HAD CAR ALLOWANCES. IS THAT IT'S STILL THERE. IT'S STILL THE SAME. SAME, SAME. CAR ALLOWANCES ARE SAME FOR SHERRY. AND SEVEN 50 FOR MR. RIGHT. 600 FOR SHERRY. SIX FOR SHERRY. SHERRY. 600 FOR SHERRY. AND 7 5800. ANYONE HERE? EIGHT . OKAY. UH, SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, SO WE'LL GO WITH THE, THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE MOTION, BUT WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION OF BEING 2 2 56. 2 22. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO LEMME GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, UH, MOTION, UH, AND, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT WITH WHICH IS THE MOTION HAS CHANGED TO 2 56. 2222. FINE. YEAH. OKAY. UM, THE EXACT, SO THERE'S THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RDA. YEP. AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.