* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [00:00:08] THANK YOU, SIR. SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING, IF ANYBODY COMES TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN SPEAK YOUR PIECE, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. , UM, [4. PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE A 2.83-ACRE PORTION OF A 10-ACRE LOT 2 OF PLANTATION VILLAGE SECTION 14 OF THE HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH SITE AT 200 LAKE ROAD FROM B-3 (INSTITUTIONAL) TO B-1A (PROFESSIONAL OFFICES)] ITEM FOUR, THE FIRST ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE A 2.83 ACRE PORTION OF A 10 ACRE LOT TO A FOUNDATION VILLAGE, SECTION 14 OF THE HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH SITE AT 200 LAKE ROAD FROM B THREE INSTITUTIONAL TO B ONE A. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. 6 31. I DROVE PAST THIS PROPERTY RECENTLY, IN CURIOSITY TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK TO THIS? YES. WE HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HERE. UH, WHO WISHES TO DESCRIPTION OR YES. AND THE YEARS IT JUST DESCRIBED THE, YOUR, YOUR PLAN AND WHAT IT IS OKAY. THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THE REASON. OKAY. I'M RICKY WILLIAMS, AND I LIVE IN LAKE JACKSON AT THREE 30 TIMBER CREEK DRIVE. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE, THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY, UH, TO DIVIDE OFF 2.83 ACRES INTO SELL IT, UH, AND CHANGE THE ZONE FROM A CHURCH ZONE TO A PROFESSIONAL BUILDING ZONE FOR THE, UH, SO WE CAN SELL IT, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT CAPACITY. THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY S OR CONCERNS OF OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, WE, UH, DID OUR, OUR DUTY AND, UH, IT ADVERTISED LIKE STATE REGULATION HAS IT, AND ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER ALSO ADVERTISED BY, UH, BY LETTERS TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY, OR ANYBODY AFFECTED BY, UH, BY THIS PARTICULAR ZONE WITHIN, UH, THE STATE REQUIRED 200. WE USUALLY GO BEYOND THAT ONE BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF AWAYS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN. SO WE EXTENDED THINGS TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE. UH, SO WE DID OUR, LIKE I SAID, WE DID OUR DUTY, AND AS YOU CAN, WELL SEE, NOBODY CAME HERE. NOBODY HAD NO INTEREST, BUT WHO KNOWS, EXCEPT OUR COUNCILWOMAN, UH, QUESTIONS PRETTY PUT ON THE SPOT. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. WELL, SHE LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. YEAH. YES, SHE DOES. UH, SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE, AND NO, NOBODY HERE TO, TO, UH, BRING ANY ISSUES THAT THEY, THAT THEY SEE OR THAT THEY HEARD OF. IT WAS ALSO, UH, IT WAS ALSO, UH, ANNOUNCED THERE BY SIGNAGE AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCES. UH, YOU KNOW, IN, UH, THERE'S A SIGN THAT WAS PLACED IN, AT THE SITE. THERE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN REZONING INTO, INTO THIS PARTICULAR USE. SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO, TO ADD TO THIS THING. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT. ONE OTHER, ONE OTHER COMMENT. I WANTED TO THANK SAL AND NICOLE AND THE TEAM. THEY'VE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP. WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS , AND THEY'VE HELPED US GUIDE US THROUGH IT, AND WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT. WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THE VELASCO DRAINAGE DISTRICT. AND SO, UH, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP. YOU'VE BEEN VERY, VERY, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE THIS QUICKLY. WE DIDN'T HAVE HELP FROM THEM, SO THANK Y'ALL. YOU THANK YOU. YOU HEAR THAT, UH, MR. MUNDO . IF THERE'S NO, THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. SO, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. HARRY? NO, NO. NOTHING. I DROVE BY THERE TODAY AND IT, IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE A NEAT FIT FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I WILL. OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. I MOVE, WE, UH, EX REZONE THE 2.83 ACRE PORTION OF THE, THE 10 ACRE TRACK LOCK TWO OF PLANTATION VILLAGE, SECTION 14 OF THE HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH SITE AT 200 LAKE ROAD FROM B THREE INSTITUTIONAL TO B ONE A. PROFESSIONAL OFFICES MOTION SECOND IN THAT SECOND. JUST MAKE, UH, LET'S MAKE A, JUST A ONE CORRECTION THERE. UH, WE HAD A MISPRINT HERE ON, ON OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. [00:05:02] OH, IT'S BECAUSE IT SHOWS THERE. YEAH. OKAY. IT SHOULD SAY SECTION 13, JUST FOR THE RECORD. S SECTION 13. SO BE IT AS AMENDED. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? THANK Y'ALL. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE, YEAH. WE CHANGED IT FROM, FROM FORT ANNA. DID YOU GET AN ANSWER FROM SHE SAID IT'S GOOD TO GO. WE CAN STILL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. [5. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUEST AND ACTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THE 3.591- ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACT AT 333 FM 2004 FROM B-1 (NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS) TO B-3 (INSTITUTIONAL) USE FOR THE NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE.] ALRIGHT. THAT NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUEST AND ACTION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THE 3.591 ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACK AT 3 33 FM 2004 FROM B ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO B THREE INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR THE NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE. YES. HELLO, JASON DEDE, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR NEW CHURCH. I LIVE AT 3 9 5 SHARON LANE IN ALVIN, TEXAS. SO I'VE NEVER DONE ONE OF THESE. SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? WE WANT TO CHANGE IT TO A CHURCH THAT PUTS OUR MODEL. UM, WE WOULD REMODEL THE BUILDING AS IS, IT WOULD BE A 350 PERSON AUDITORIUM. THERE'S NO SCHOOL OR, OR ANY DAYCARE IN THIS, IN OUR BUILDING. THIS IS A STRAIGHT CHURCH. WE HAVE SERVICES ON THURSDAYS AND SUNDAY. S YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UH, YES. AGAIN, THERE WAS A MISPRINT HERE AND I WISH TO CLARIFY THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS THEY'RE REQUESTING A CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? SURE. UH, MOVE THAT WE CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THE 3.591 ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACK AT 3 33 FM 2004, FROM B ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO A B THREE INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR THE NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE. WE HAVE MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AND JUST THIS EXPLANATION, UH, MS. TON IS THE FACT THAT, UH, THE VERY FIRST THING YOU DO IS BEFORE, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE INITIATED. YOU HAVE TO CALL AN OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING. PARDON ME? I NEED TO CALL AN OFFICIAL WHAT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. OH. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS JUST GONNA STAY OUT OF IT. I THOUGHT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY AFTER THE, THE SALE. CORRECT. CORRECT. CORRECT. I KNOW. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. MY PLEASURE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT [6. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON PLAT AMENDMENT OF THE VIGHNESHWER SUBDIVISION OF THE STAYBRIDGE HOTEL LOCATED AT 981 FM 2004.] ITEM IS ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON PLAT AMENDMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE RIDGE HOTEL LOCATED AT 9 81 FM 2004. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE THAT WILL BE MAKING THE OH, OH, GOOD EVENING. HELLO. YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF THE SUB. I AM NOT GONNA TRY THAT. . UM, SO YES, THIS IS THE PLAT FOR THE STAY BRIDGE HOTEL. THAT'S BY THE BRA SUPPORT MALL. UM, THE, YOU KNOW, PURPOSE OF THE PLAT IS, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TWO SEPARATE LOTS, YOU KNOW, THE HOTEL WAS ON ONE LOT, AND THEN THERE WAS AN EMPTY VACANT TRACK NEXT TO THE HOTEL AS A SECOND LOT. UH, THE OWNER OF THE HOTEL OWNS BOTH TRACKS. AND, UM, WHAT HE HAS NOW AS A GOAL IS HE WANTS TO EXPAND HIS PARKING LOT TO ACCOMMODATE 18 WHEELERS. AND PART OF, UH, HIS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS HE NEEDS TO COMBINE THE TWO LOTS BACK INTO ONE AGAIN. I BET. DO YOU SEE ISSUES WITH IT FOR SPACE AND WHAT HE, WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO? UM, I THINK HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE HIS NEIGHBORS HAPPY. I MEAN, UM, THEY DON'T WANT THE 18 WHEELERS PARKING IN THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE, SO YEAH. THERE WASN'T, THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE, UH, MALL OWNERS, UH, DECIDED THAT, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE THAT. I, I GUESS THEY STARTED, UH, THEY STARTED THINKING THAT THEY WAS DESTROYING THEIR PARKING LOT AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, HEAVY LOADS ON AN ASPHALT PARKING AREA IS, IS A PROBLEM. [00:10:01] SO THEY DECIDED NOT TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN. SO NOW HE'S TRYING TO STILL PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO, I GUESS THERE'S ONE THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW HOTELS IN THE CITY THAT COULD ALLOW THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC. HOWEVER, IS THAT WORTH IT? I DON'T KNOW. THEY, IT MAY BE DEPENDING ON IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESS THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW, I'M FROM A FAMILY THAT DOESN'T, WE DON'T, YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO DIESEL. I KNOW THAT 18 WHEELERS YEAH, I KNOW THAT. UH, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S REALLY WORTH IT, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS A PROMINENT PORTION OF LAKE JACKSON. YEAH. AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO'S DRIVING IT, WHO'S IT FROM WHERE IT'S GOING. WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING FOR DOWN THE CORNER AT 3 32 AND 2004 TO HAVE DIESEL SUPPLIED FOR TRUCKS THERE. THEY, THAT'S THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE, YOU KNOW, THE FELLOW THAT WAS TALKING TO US FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE. YEAH. AND THEY HAVEN'T MOVED ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT COURSE FOR WHATEVER REASON OF YEAH. FOR WHATEVER REASON. RIGHT. THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF COMPLE UH, COMPLICATIONS WITH EASEMENTS AND SUCH ON THIS. I, I SEE THE DOTTED LINES. OH, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF EASEMENTS. YES. BUT THOSE EASEMENTS REMAIN. THERE'S NO COMPLICATION. AND, UH, FOR THE MOST PART IN TODAY'S WORLD OF TRENCHLESS CONSTRUCTION, IT REALLY ISN'T AN ISSUE, AN ISSUE ANYMORE. BUT YOU WOULDN'T COVER 'EM WITH CONCRETE? I'M ASSUMING THEY COULD IF THEY WANTED TO. THEY COULD. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THEY COULD. THE OTHER THING I'M THINKING, I, I'M NOT AGAINST THIS. I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE THOUGHTS OF IT. UH, TRYING TO BRING A TRUCK INTO THAT LOCATION. THEY ALREADY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT. PARDON? THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT. THEY'RE DOING IT NOW. THEY'RE PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. NOT ANYMORE. THEY'RE PARKING IN THE BACK OF THE MALL. YEAH. WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT PULLING IN. THERE'S A, UH, A MEDIAN HERE IN THE MIDDLE. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IN FROM THE SIDE WHERE THEY ALREADY GO TO PARK. THE, THE SIDE ITSELF WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER, AND THEN HE CAN EXPLAIN HOW THE ROUTING IS, UH, IS PROPOSED TO, TO HAPPEN. LOSE A LOT OF TREES. YEAH. QUITE A FEW TREES. YEAH. SO THEY STILL WOULD COME OFF OF THAT, BUT THEN GO, YOU'D HAVE A CURB CUT THERE, BUT YOU, YOU, YOU WANNA DO THE THING YEAH. DO THE SAME THING. YES. THEY'RE JUST GONNA, I GUESS THEY COULDN'T PULL THROUGH SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BACK. OKAY. COULD YOU HAVE EXPLAIN WHAT GOING? YES. SO, UH, THEIR R SO IF AN 18 WHEELER WAS GOING TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY THEY'RE COMING IN FROM 2 0 4. THEY WOULD PULL THROUGH HERE, RUN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS MAIN DRIVE AREA, RUN UP HERE, COME IN THROUGH THIS ENTRANCE, COME THROUGH THE BACK TO PARK. VERY GOOD. SO WHEN THEY'RE READY TO LEAVE, THEY JUST GO BACK TO TWO DOUBLE FOUR. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING THOSE TURNS. THEY'RE, INSTEAD OF MAKING A RIGHT IN THE BACK OF THE MALL, THEY'RE JUST MAKING A LEFT INTO HIS PROPERTY. CORRECT. ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS TRACT HERE, AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR OVER A YEAR HERE. NOTHING. THANK YOU. COTTON? NO, NO, NOTHING. SMITH. I, I GUESS NO, NO, NO, NO. OKAY. THIS IS JUST FOR THE REPLAY. THIS REC, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THE REPL. YEAH. THIS IS JUST THE REPLAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE REPL ITEM? I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE APPROVE THE, UH, REPL OF THE AMENDMENT OF THE, UH, STO STATED SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE BRIDGE HOTEL LOCATED ON 9 81, UH, FM 2004. UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY? THIS IS A, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, ACTION. IT IS NOT A FINAL APPROVAL. RIGHT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK OF STAFF? YES, SIR. NICOLE, CAN YOU BRING THAT SIDE PLAN OUT? UH, I, I, I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR ROAD, BUT IS THE MALL ALREADY APPROVED ACCESS? YES. THAT'S, THAT'S THERE OR THERE? IT'S FOR ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS. OKAY. SO THERE'S [00:15:01] ALREADY APPROVED ACCESS. MM-HMM. , UH, FOR THE MALL. OKAY. YES. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR ON THE PLAT AMENDMENT ADMINISTRATOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? [7. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STAYBRIDGE HOTEL LOCATED AT 981 FM 2004] ALL. NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, SITE PLAN FOR THE SAME PROPERTY. OKAY. SO ANYTHING ELSE? SO, UH, NO. HE CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT, UH, HOW HE, UH, ARRIVED TO THIS SIDE LANE AND OKAY. WHAT HE HAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR IT. YES. SO, UM, FOR THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT EXPANSION, UM, IT'S STILL UNDER ENGINEERING REVIEW. I JUST GOT COMMENTS FROM NICOLE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BESIDES, YOU KNOW, BESIDES ADDING THE PARKING HERE, ONE ISSUE WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS THERE'S A SANITARY LIFT STATION IN THIS PLATTED AREA. RIGHT. AND THERE'S A MAINTENANCE ROAD RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. THAT ACCESS IS THE ACCESS. ACCESS. UM, WHEN WE DID OUR SITE PLAN, WE PUT THE DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REQUIREMENT NOW FOR ANY IMPERVIOUS COVER IMPROVEMENTS. YEP. UM, WHEN WE DID THAT, IT WAS A BIT OF A DETRIMENT TO THIS ACCESS RIGHT HERE TO THIS LIFT STATION. 'CAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND OUT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACK UP ALL THE WAY INTO THAT LIFT STATION. THAT'S NOT GOOD. UM, WE ARE GONNA COME BACK WITH A FOLLOW UP WITH THE REVISED SITE PLAN, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA FLIP THE POND IN THIS PARKING LOT. SO THIS PARKING LOT CAN BE RIGHT HERE. AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN ACCESS TO LIFT STATION. SO IT'S A, A WIND FOR THE CITY. SO YOU'RE GONNA PUT YOUR RETENTION POND, WE'RE GONNA SHIP THIS PARKING LOT OVER, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT THE POND RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE IN THIS TRIANGULAR AREA. WHEN YOU SAY FLIP THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S NO LONGER GONNA BE A TRIANGLE AT THAT POINT. IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT SIZE OF A TRIANGLE. IT'S GONNA BE A LARGER TRIANGLE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BOW OUT. SINCE YOU'RE TAKING THIS SIDE AND FLIPPING IT OVER, IT WILL HAVE ABOUT THE SAME AREA, BUT THE EDGE OF IT'S GONNA COME RIGHT HERE. IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT THINNER BECAUSE IT'S PARKED THIS POND WHEN IT'S A TRIANGLE, IS GONNA TAKE UP SOME MORE SPACE HERE. AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF CONCRETE'S CHANGING, I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP, BUT IT'S GONNA CHANGE. DECREASE. I WILL, I WILL FOLLOW UP. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. NO, GARY? NO. MATT, ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE NOT BEING SHOWN? SAL, WHAT DO WE DO ON THIS? WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T PUSH THIS FORWARD WITHOUT THE CHANGES, CORRECT? WELL, NO, BECAUSE, UH, THE CHANGES HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF, UH, THE, THE SAME TYPE OF DRAINAGE. MM-HMM. , UH, PLAN THAT HE HAS, UH, THAT HE'S PROVIDING FOR RIGHT NOW. IF HE SOMEHOW INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE, THE IMP NESS, HE HAS TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT ONE IN THE SIZE AGAIN. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S SOME SOMETHING THAT NICOLE WILL, WILL, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM. UH, THE, UH, BUT THAT, THAT REALLY WHAT IT DOES, IT REALLY, IT REALLY LEAVES THAT ACCESS TO OUR LIFT STATION, WHICH OUR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT. UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'LL GIVE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE CONCRETE ITSELF WOULD, UH, LEND ITSELF TO ALSO BE APPROACHED BY US. BY, WELL IF, IF THE CONCRETE'S, I MEAN THE CONCRETE'S BORDERING WHERE WE HAVE OUR ACCESS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A CURB. WE CAN'T HAVE OUR GUYS JUMPING OVER A CURB TURN AROUND. IT'S GONNA BE FLAT. IT'S GONNA BE FLAT. YES. THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. THE OTHER SIDE WOULD HAVE A CURB, BUT THAT YEAH. YEAH. THE, THE, THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE RETENTION POND SIDE WOULD BE CURB, BUT THE ACCESS SIDE IS GONNA BE CURBLESS, CORRECT? UH, I MEAN, HM. WHERE'S THE CURRENT DETENTION POND FOR THE HOTEL? THERE ISN'T ONE. THERE ISN'T ONE THERE. ISN NONE. THIS WAS BUILT BEFORE THE REQUIREMENT? NO. UH, NO. WASN'T IT? EVERYTHING IS, UH, CONTAINED WITHIN THE PRO, WITHIN THE, UH, SYSTEM ITSELF. NICOLE, COULD YOU PULL UP GOOGLE EARTH FOR [00:20:16] THE EXISTING SIDE WILL NOT BE TOUCHED OTHER THAN CONNECT, UH, THE CONNECTION OF THE NEW PAVEMENT TO THAT AREA. THAT'S INTERESTING. WE'RE STAYING CLEAR. THE HIGH BANK WITH EVERYTHING. YEAH, IT'S ALL DOWN HERE. THE BANK IS CI IS BELOW ENTIRELY BELOW THE, UH, THE HOTEL SITE. YEAH. YES. THERE'S A LOT MORE EASEMENT PAST THE, UH, UH, THE, THE STATION. YES. WELL, THERE'S ALSO, THAT WASN'T APPARENT FROM THE DRAWING. THERE'S ALSO STATE, RIGHT? OKAY. RIGHT. IT'S A LOT MORE SPACE, I GUESS FLIP THAT, THAT DIDN'T INDICATE THERE'S NO TREES OVER THERE, I GUESS. BUT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THEIR COPY RIGHT THERE. TO MATT'S POINT, DO WE WANT TO APPROVE IT OR RECOMMEND ANYTHING HERE OR JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME TO SEE A NO, YOU CAN APPROVE PRELIMINARY. YOU CAN APPROVE THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, PRELIMINARY THE CHANGES AS DISCUSSED. CORRECT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION FOR THE PLAT AMENDMENT OF THE ROIS SUBDIVISION HOTEL LOCATION IN 9 81 FM 2004. CHANGE WITH THE CHANGE. I'VE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH A CHANGE IN THE, UH, GREAT ACCENT. YES. WELL, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WORLD TRAVELER. WHO KNOWS? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? [8. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STAYBRIDGE HOTEL LOCATED AT 981 FM 2004.] ALRIGHT. SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN, SAME PROPERTY. OKAY. BEFORE, THAT'S A LOT OF LINES THERE. STUFF GETTING CROSSED OUT. WERE ANY OF THOSE TREES THAT ARE STILL GOING DOWN IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS OR? NO, NOT THE ORIGINAL PLAN. THIS WAS, UH, AS YOU, UH, AS HE STARTED WITH THIS IS AN EMPTY LOT AND, UH, IT HAD TWO SEPARATE DEALS THERE. AN EMPTY LOT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLAN WHATSOEVER. NOW THEY ARE, SINCE THEY ARE COMBINING BOTH, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA BE AFFECTED IS WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT EMPTY TRACK. AND ONLY IN THAT AREA THAT HAS BEEN OCCUPIED BY THE NEW, BY THE NEW FOOTPRINT IMPROVEMENT. AND AS YOU CAN WELL SEE FROM THAT TREE SURVEY THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, OVERLAID THERE, YOU SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT. AND THERE'S A SERIES OF TREES, UH, NUMBER OF TREES THERE. I CAN'T, UH, REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER NINE. I THINK I HAD IT IN MY, IN MY, UH, REPORT TO YOU. UH, YEAH, THERE'S 19 TREES THERE AND, UH, ONLY TWO OF THOSE WILL, WILL STILL BE ALIVE. WELL UNDER THIS TYPE OF, UNDER THIS TYPE OF LAYOUT, UNDER A NEW LAYOUT THAT MAY CHANGE SOME. AND SO YEAH, THAT'S RATHER THAN DETENTION POND, THOSE TWO. SO, WELL, YES, THOSE TWO PROBABLY WILL BE SACRIFICED, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES MAY BE, UH, MAY BE SUBSTITUTED IN, YOU KNOW, LEFT. BUT MOST OF THE TREES THAT, THAT ARE BEING TAKEN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE SEEN THEM. I WENT BY THERE TODAY. THEY NEED TO GO, THEY NEED TO GO . THEY'RE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. YEAH. OTHER CHINESE TALLOWS. VERY, YEAH, THEY'RE CHI CHINESE TALLOWS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, A LOT OF THE, LUCKILY THE EXISTING TREE, THE EXTENDED LANDSCAPE PLANT IN THE HOTEL REALLY WASN'T AT ALL AFFECTED BY THE STORM. WHAT WAS AFFECTED WAS ALL THOSE TREES BELOW THE BANK TO THE CREEK THAT CREATED A, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS AFFECTED QUITE A BIT IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANE THERE. UH, SO, BUT THOSE DON'T, DON'T, UH, WEREN'T COUNTED IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND THEY'RE NOT BEING COUNTED IN THIS PLAN EITHER. THESE, UH, BUSHES, HAIR ARE BE GONNA BE GONE. YEAH. THAT THOSE ARE GONE. SO THAT'S AFFECTING SOMETHING. THE SIGNAGE, IS IT GONNA BE ABLE TO STAY THERE WITH THE DETENTION POND? LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE IN THE EDGE OF IT. [00:25:02] THAT'S YEAH. THE, THE MONUMENT WILL STAY. UM, I HAD DI I DID TALK TO SAL EARLIER, THE SHRUBS THAT WE WILL BE REMOVING THERE. WE ARE GONNA BE ADDING SHRUBS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE SITE PLAN NOW. THOSE CAN REMAIN THERE. YOU CAN ADD TO THE NEW, SO LET'S SEE, IT'S POINT WORKING RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING SHRUBS ON THIS SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT FACING 2 0 0 4. THEY'RE NOT ON THERE, BUT THEY WILL BE ADDED. MM. A LOT OF WHAT IFS. IT'S YOUR SECOND PAGE. YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING LIKE YOU GUYS . YEAH. AND, AND THERE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE TREES ALONG THAT SAME SIDE ON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAY, UH, AS THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES, WHICH IS ONE TREE PER 30 FOOT AT 30 FOOT SPACING AS A TREE. THAT'S A TREE SCREEN OR SCREEN TREE. IT'D BE BETWEEN THIS AND Y'ALL'S ACCESS ROAD OR WHERE WOULD THEY BE? IT WOULD BE, YES. IT'LL BE BETWEEN, IT'D BE ON THIS SIDE OF OUR ACCESS. YES. OKAY. CAN ANYTHING GO OUT IN HERE TOO AND SATISFY THAT? UH, BEYOND THAT ONE? THERE'S A NATURAL TREE LINE AND, AND, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT HAS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY, WELL THAT'S OVER IN HERE. YES. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT OVER ON THIS, ON THEIR PROPERTY SIDE. WELL, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL TREE IN. IT IS TREE IN. SO THIS DRAWING DOESN'T SHOW IT IS WHAT YOU'RE NO, IT DOESN'T SHOW IT. NO, BECAUSE NONE OF THE TREES ARE INDICATED THERE. YEAH, THEY'RE NOT COMING, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN. OKAY. NO, I OH, THAT'S A CRAZY LOOKING, CRAZY LOOKING. I'M LOOKING FOR TREES. TREES RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ON STATE PROPERTY THERE. SO WELL STILL, YOU STILL, YOU CAN'T SEE IT. AND THAT'S THE WHOLE VALUE OF PUTTING SCREEN TREES IS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT VIEW OF ANY PART. AND THERE'S NO PARKING LOT ALONG THE, THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH OF THINGS. YOU SEE WHAT I'M TRYING IS, IS WHAT IS THE REQUIRED TREES FOR STONE BRIDGE STATE BRIDGE? OH NO. THEY HAVE ENOUGH TREES JUST BY THE THERE EXISTING PLANT. OKAY. YEAH. TO COVER THE WHOLE AREA. TO COVER THE WHOLE AREA. OKAY. OKAY. THE CHANGES TO THIS WOULD BE THE PRE, LIKE THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS ON THE SITE PLAN AND A MORE THOROUGH THREE TREE COUNT, I GUESS. SORRY. YOU CAN'T TELL WHICH TREES Y'ALL ARE TAKING OUT REALLY. THEY'RE NOT ALL OF THEM. THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THAT, UH, WE MARKED UP AND WAS, WAS GIVEN HIM TODAY, IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER ACCOUNTING ON THE TREES THAT ARE BEING TAKEN DOWN. THE SI THE, THE SIZE, THE TYPE, ET CETERA. BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED TOO. THEY PROVIDED A, A WHOLE TAB, A SUMMARY OF THERE AND I JUST COULDN'T FOLLOW THAT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. THIS ISN'T VERY ACCURATE 'CAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY TREES. RIGHT. THERE'S SIGNS RIGHT THERE AND THAT STREET VIEW, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. SO, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. OH MAN. UH, CAN WE DO THIS AND THEN JUST, AND INSIDE IT STIPULATE THE ACT MORE ACCURATE TREE COUNT THE BUSHES AND TREES DOWN THE HIGHWAY. OKAY. YES, YOU CAN I MOVE. WE ACCEPT. WOULD THIS BE A, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW? OKAY. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STAYBRIDGE HOTEL LOCATED AT 9 81 FM 2004, WITH THEM COMING BACK TO US, SHOWING US THE, THE GREENAGE OF BUSHES AND TREES DOWN FM 2004. A MORE ACCURATE TREE COUNT OF WHAT'S AND SIZE OF WHAT STAYS AND IS. THEY WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE MODIFIED SITE AS AUGUST AS A MODIFIED SITE PLAN. WELL INCLUDE THE MODIFIED PLAN. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. I SECOND WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR? I QUESTION ON, HOLD ON. I GOT A QUESTION. THE, THE SHRUB MOVE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE REAL QUICK? [00:30:02] I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THIS. YOU, YOU'RE, YOU WERE STATING THESE SHRUBS ARE GONNA GET MOVED FROM HERE TO THIS, THIS SIDE OVER HERE. MM-HMM. ALONG THE ACCESS POINT WHERE THE CITY WORKERS ARE GONNA BE DRIVING THROUGH OR THE NO CURB SIDE, BECAUSE THIS GUY'S GOING DOWN HERE. THIS IS ALL MOVING UP HERE. FANCY DANCY. CORRECT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO IT. NO CURB. SO THE SHRUBB BRIDGE IS GONNA GO BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE LAKE JACKSON'S ACCESS TO THAT LIFT STATION? OR IS IT GOING IN BETWEEN YOUR PARKING LOT AND THE ACCESS TO THE LIFT STATION? MY INTENT WAS TO PUT IT RIGHT HERE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OR IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE WAY YOU, THE PROPERTY LINE BY PROPERTY LINE. YOU'RE TALKING THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. CORRECT. THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. I THOUGHT WE CAN'T IT THEY WOULD BE INSIDE THE PROPERTY ON OUR SIDE OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY. LINE IS, WELL, I I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REQUIRE OR REQUIRE THAT THEY DO. THEY CAN EITHER BE THERE. I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT THING BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND CORRECT. NOT ONLY IS CERTAINLY RIGHT AWAY, THE SURFACE THAT YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH THERE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ANY TRIBAL VEGETATION. THAT'S HARD SURFACE. OKAY. RIGHT ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO IF ANYWHERE THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE WOULD BE BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE TRAVEL AND THE, A ACCESS ROAD IN OUR ROAD. WE CAN DO THAT TOO. UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT LIKE A 40 FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. SORRY, THIS, I DON'T THINK THIS LASER'S WORKING ANYMORE. BUT ANYWAYS THOUGH, ABOUT RIGHT HERE, YOU PROBABLY NOT PUT ANY SHRUBS JUST SO THE GUY PULLING IN AND OUT THERE COULD BE WAY YOUR, YOUR PLAN WAS TO MOVE THAT UP. YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE A GAP HERE. YES. THAT WOULD BE A GAP BETWEEN THAT AND THE AXIS ROADS. YES. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT MAKES MORE SENSE PUTTING IT THERE AND NOT ALONG THE STATE RIGHT AWAY. MATT, ARE YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD BOSS. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE SET, I DIDN'T FOLLOW WHAT, WHERE HE WAS. ARE WE NOT STILL UNDERNEATH THAT, UH, THE, UH, POWER LINES? YES. THERE'S AN OVERHEAD THERE. CORRECT. THAT'S WHY'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY VEGETATION RIGHT NEXT TO, TO THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE VEGETATION OUT THERE. NO. THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY WE'VE JUST DECIDED TO GO BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE AXES ROAD AT THAT HERE ON THAT SIDE. RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE THAT LINE. IT'S INTERESTING. THE PURPOSE OF THOSE IS COSMETIC. AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE UGLIEST PART OF IT THAT YOU'RE NOT HIDING. HEY, THAT'S THE CITY. THE CITY CAN DO ANYTHING. . WE'VE NOTICED THAT WITH THE TREE. THE DOG POUND? NO. UH, NO. THIS IS JUST FOR PARKING. THAT'S THE WAY THE ORDINANCE CALLS FOR. OKAY. YEAH. SCREEN ON PARKING. NOT, UH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. [9. CITY ADMINISTRATION UPDATE ON THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 131 CANNA LANE.] ALL RIGHT. NUMBER NINE IS CITY ADMINISTRATION UPDATE ON THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL PATROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 1 31 CANADA LANE. UM, I THINK, UH, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEIR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING WILL, UM, AWARD OUR CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT'S OUR EXPECTATION. AND WE THINK THAT IT'LL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 18 MONTHS, UH, FOR THE COMPLETION OF THAT. THE SPC HAS ALREADY STARTED ON THEIR, UH, EXPANSION. IT'S UNDERWAY. UH, THAT LEASE, UH, OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM ENDED, UH, RIGHT AROUND 2022. AND THEN WE WENT INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WHERE WE AGREED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THEM. SO WE LEASE NOW THE PROPERTY AND A PORTION OF IT FOR THEIR EXPANSION. FOR THEIR EXPANSION PLANS. AND SO THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, STARTED, THEY HAD THEIR GROUNDBREAKING, UH, ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO FOR THEIR EXPANSION. AND, BUT THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY START OUR CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME IN THE FALL FOR OURS. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT THE, THE QUESTION I BROUGHT UP WAS, IT'S, IT'S WEIRD THAT WE, WE OWN THE BUILDING THAT THE SPCA IS IN. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE, THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD ON TO IT. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE ON A YEAR BY YEAR, DAY BY DAY, WHATEVER LEASE. WE HAVE A 20 YEAR LEASE WITH THEM NOW. OKAY. [00:35:01] AND WE'RE FIXING TO BUILD OUR OWN ANIMAL SHELTER RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO 'EM. MM-HMM. RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A BUILDING THAT WE ALREADY OWN. MM-HMM. THAT'S ALREADY DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO INSIDE OF OUR BUILDING. WE DO DIFFERENT, NO ASKING BE DIFFERENT. WE'LL OPERATE DIFFERENTLY. WE'LL OPERATE, WE WE'LL HAVE AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY AND THEY HAVE AN ANIMAL RESCUE, UH, UH, FACILITY. SO WE'LL STILL PARTNER WITH THEM ON THE, ON THE RESCUE SIDE. UM, AND UH, THEY POSSIBLY WILL HAVE OTHER CITIES THAT WILL PARTNER WITH THEM. UH, INCLUDE IS ALSO LOOKING AT BUILDING THEIR OWN FACILITY AS WELL AS FREEPORT. OKAY. IT JUST SEEMS WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY DOING ALMOST THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR WITHOUT USING THE WORD EUTHANIZATION, WHICH IS YEAH. BASICALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. YEAH. OR AT LEAST THAT'S ALL I'M SEEING. YEAH. IT IS JUST ALL THE PARTNERS HAVE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME TO DISSOLVE THE RELATIONSHIP AND UM, BUT WE STILL WANT TO PARTNER WITH EACH OTHER WHEN WE CAN. OKAY. BUT I, OUT OF OPERATING OUT OF THE SAME FACILITY, IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE. WE'VE PROBABLY MADE THAT DECISION 10 YEARS AGO AND WE'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, UH, TO THIS. UM, UM, SO THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH AS I, YOU KNOW, CAN REALLY ELABORATE ON IS THAT WE'LL STILL HOPE TO PARTNER, BUT I THINK WE WILL BE BETTER SERVED IF WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN FACILITY. OKAY. THANK YOU MODESTO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ALRIGHT. I'VE PUSHED THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES TILL MATT GOT HERE, SO WE, WE NEED TO, ANYBODY GOT ANY ISSUES WITH THE LAST, LAST MONTH'S, MINUTES? NO. NO. ALRIGHT. MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. OKAY. SIGNATURE DOCUMENTS. I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE ANY, NO [11. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] HONOR. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. OKAY. WELL I DO HAVE SOME IDEAS AND I GUESS I WOULD DIRECT IT KIND OF TOWARD MATT . THEY BOTH MOVED BACK. WHAT'S UP BOSS ZOO DRAMA. OKAY, HERE'S MY THING. YES MA'AM. I'VE ALREADY LOOKED INTO FOUR 10 AND THAT IS MY FRIEND AND HER FRIEND THAT OWNS OAK DRIVE FOUR 10. BUT I'VE LOOKED INTO 5 0 2 AND YOU KNOW THAT MUSTANG GOT CRUSHED. NO. THE CAMARO? YES MA'AM. CAMARO, YES. OKAY. THAT'S SMOOSHED AND GONE. THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD IS LOOKING BETTER. HOWEVER, AS YOU WALK TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY, WHICH HAS THOSE THREE GARAGES IN A ROW, IT'S NICE HOUSE. THERE IS A GIANT FENCE OVERRUN WITH VINES THAT GOES NOW FROM THAT SIDE OF OAK DRIVE TO THAT SIDE OF OAK DRIVE OVER THAT WAY, ALL OF THAT FENCE IS FALLING IN THE OYSTER CREEK. I WANT TO KNOW JUST ME, I MEAN I'VE OWNED A LOT OF PROPERTY ON THE OYSTER CREEK. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT AS A CITIZEN. HOE CREEK USED TO BE CLEANED OUT FREQUENTLY AFTER THESE STORMS EVEN RIGHT THERE. WHEN DO YOU SAY USED TO BE? 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN CLEANED OUT ONE TIME IN 35 YEARS. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. ONE TIME IN 35 YEARS. SO I'M NOT SURE THEY DID A SECOND TIME. PARTIAL CLEANING. YEAH, PARTIAL CLEANING. BUT IKE WAS THE LAST TIME A FULL CLEANING BARGE AND THE WHOLE SHEBANG WENT DOWN. SO WHEN YOU SAY USED TO, WE'RE TALKING 45, 50 YEARS AGO. I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN THAT ARE 45 OR 50. I DON'T, NOT FLYING TO CHILDREN BY ANY MEANS. BUT WHEN YOU SAY USED TO BE OFTEN THEN I MEAN WE'RE, WELL I GUESS THAT I REMEMBER IT MORE DURING THAT DAY BECAUSE THEY DID BRING WHAT I GUESS I WOULD CALL KIND OF CREEK BARGES. YEAH. OH YEAH. THAT PRETTY COOL MACHINES PICK THEM UP. YEAH. MAYBE I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. UH, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE I AS A CITIZEN. SO THE, THE CREEK TECHNICALLY I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INTERESTING. THE CREEK IS OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THE CITY HAS NO OWNERSHIP IN THE CREEK. UH, SO THE PROPERTY LINES FROM THE OWNERS GO TO THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK ON BOTH. ON BOTH SIDES. SO, UM, FOR THE CITY TO, SO THE CITY HAS NO JURISDICTION, YOU KNOW, ON CLEANING THE CREEK PER SE. SINCE WE DON'T OWN, NOW WE DO OWN OUR PORTION [00:40:01] ON PUBLIC PARK. YEAH. JUST LIKE A PRIVATE OWNER. BUT THE PRIVATE OWNER, THEIR PROPERTY LOAN GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF, OF THE CREEK. THE WATER IS ALWAYS CONSIDERED JURISDICTION OF THE CORE . YEAH. SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO GET A PERMIT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH, WITH THE CORE. SO IT'S CORRECT. WE, WE'VE HAD TWO TIMES THAT THERE'S BEEN A PROJECT IT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THAT THE CREEK HAS BEEN CLEAN. ONE WHERE WE'VE TOOK, TAKEN THE LEAD AFTER A STORM, AFTER WE GOT A GRANT. AND THE SECOND TIME BY THE COUNTY WHERE THEY TOOK, TOOK THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT THE LAST TIME THE COUNTY COMPLETED, THEY STILL HAVE A PERMIT THAT IS OPEN, UH, TO CLEAN THE CREEK, WHICH IS ISSUED BY, AGAIN, BY THE CORE. WHAT, WELL MAYBE THE CORE OF ENGINEERS, UH, NEEDS ONE OF US TO SAY, CAN WE DO THIS? NOW, THIS IS WHAT HAS LEFT OYSTER CREEK. SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS BECAUSE THERE'S HA AFTER EACH STORM, THERE'S HAZARD MITIGATION FUNDING THAT OPENS UP. AND ALSO FEMA'S JUST THIS WEEK IS NOTIFIED ALL OF THE ENTITIES THAT CATEGORY C THROUGH G HAVE OPENED UP. SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH, BECAUSE THERE'S A PERMIT THAT'S OPEN, THE COUNTY'S EXPLORING A PROJECT TO CLEAN THE CREEK, UH, AND SEE IF THAT CAN GET APPROVED. ESPECIALLY, AND THE REASON WHY THEY'RE TAKING THE LEAD IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A, AN EXISTING PERMIT THAT IS STILL OPEN. 'CAUSE IT TAKES YEARS TO GET A PERMIT TO, TO CLEAR. SO IF WE DID IT OURSELVES AND TOOK THE LEAD, WE'D HAVE TO GET OUR OWN PERMIT. IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE TWO YEARS TO, TO GET YES. YES. BUT THE COUNTY HAS ONE. SO THEY'RE EXPLORING THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT STILL MAY BE A YEAR BEFORE IT GETS, UH, FUNDED, BEFORE IT CAN GET APPROVED FUNDING FROM FEMA. FROM FEMA, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE CATEGORIES. BUT THEY DO HAVE A PERMIT TO CLEAN. IF THEY GET FUNDING, THEY'VE ALREADY APPROACHED US AND THE CITY OF CLUTE, YOU KNOW, FOR MATCHING SHARE. YOU KNOW, SO IF IT'S A $2 MILLION PROJECT, WHATEVER OUR PORTION IS, THEY WOULD ASK US FOR OUR MATCHING SHARE THAT I, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I CAN, I CANNOT TELL YOU IF WE CAN COME UP WITH OUR MATCHING SHARE, BUT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET IT APPROVED FOR THE CLEANING. BUT THE CITY CANNOT LEGALLY GO OUT AND CLEAN THE CREEK IF WE WANTED TO, UNLESS WE ARE PERMITTED TO DO SO. PERFECT. BUT TO MS. ALAN'S, UH, QUESTION. I THINK SHE WAS ASKING ON THE, THE OVERGROWN NATURE OF THAT FENCE ON THE FENCE ITSELF. RIGHT. DIFFERENT THING. IT IS. OKAY. THAT IS NOTHING THAT THE, THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CLEAN UP. NO. YEAH. THAT WOULDN'T GO UP THAT FAR. NO. YEAH. SO ON THE FENCE YOU CAN GROW ANYTHING YOU WANT ON A FENCE, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. THE FENCE HAS TO BE IN GOOD REPAIR. OH. OH, IT'S FALLING OVER. YES. AND THEN HERE'S THIS THING. AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR LIGHT POLES ON ONE SIDE. MM-HMM. . AND ONE OF OUR LIGHT POLES ON THIS SIDE OF OAK DRIVE ACROSS MM-HMM. WHERE THE CHILDREN COME THROUGH. LEMME SEE. AND IT IS COMPLETELY VINE GROWN. IT'S FALLING DOWN. THE PACK FENCE IS FALLING DOWN. IT'S A, IT'S SUCH A MESS. SO I GUESS THE NEXT THING IS JUST THE FENCE IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. I I DON'T SEE ALL THE FENCES. ALL THE FENCES SEE IN THE BACK. THAT'S OUR PROPERTY FENCE IS GOING, GOING ON THAT ROUTE. THAT'S BELOW THAT WAY. ALL THE WAY TO THE SCHOOL. IT IS WHAT IT IS. HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TABLE HAVE COME DOWN. OKAY. THE ISN'T THAT OUR, TECHNICALLY OUR EASEMENT RIGHT THERE TO THE, TO THE POWER POLE. TO THE POWER POLE. YEAH. BUT THAT'S THE RIGHT SIDE. I HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE ROAD THAT IS OURS FOR US TO MAINTAIN. I THOUGHT, YEAH, I THOUGHT OUR EASEMENT WENT TO THAT POWER POLES LOCATION THERE AND THAT CUTS IN PRETTY DEEP INTO THAT VINE GROWTH THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT MM-HMM. THAT COULD BE. UH, SO THERE MAY BE AN AREA THAT IS OURS THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN. UH, BETWEEN YEAH, BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE, AND THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. THERE SHOULD BE A 16 FOOT EASEMENT THERE. YEAH. CUT DOWN THE UNDERGROWTH. YEAH. THERE MAY BE AN AREA THERE THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND IS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNERS. UH, BECAUSE AT SAME TIME IT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM GOING UNDER THE BRIDGE ON THERE. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. I THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. AND ON THE FENCE ON DAMAGED FENCES, UM, OF COURSE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY PER SE, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THIS HAD PRIOR FENCE DAMAGE OR NOT. OH YEAH. I HAVE NOT BEEN, I HAVE NOT PUSHED STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO START, YOU KNOW, ISSUING [00:45:01] CITATIONS FOR DAMAGE FENCES. WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE WE , UH, TO, I AGREE TO REPAIR THAT ONE WAS, THAT ONE WAS TOASTED WELL BEFORE THE STORM. IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN IN BAD SHAPE AND OVERGROWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT I COULD TESTIFY TO THE FACT WHY IT'S DONE LIKE THAT IS MULTIPLE REASONS. 'CAUSE THE GUY THAT LIVES THERE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT PART IS HIS ROAD OR HIS, HIS PROPERTY TO HE'S HAD AND OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE ACCESSING DOWN THERE FROM THAT AREA. OKAY, WELL LET'S, LET'S JUST LOOK IN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S OUR PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN UH, DOWN THE BRIDGE. WE DOWN THE BRIDGE. THEY, THEY WANT TO, THEY'VE HAD CHILDREN CROSS, CROSS AND THAT'S HOW THEY DO THEIR LITTLE JUMP OFF THE BRIDGE AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHY THE FENCING IS ON THE ONE SIDE WITH THE SIDEWALK IS NOW THEY JUMP FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND THEY USED TO ACCESS UP FROM THERE HOOLIGANS. I TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE PROBABLY MORE CONCERNED, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY MORE CONCERNED ON THE, THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE, WHERE THE KIDS OH, THE KIDS ARE. YEAH. CROSSING ON THE BRIDGE. YEAH. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE OUR, THAT'S WHY THE FOCUS. THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE OUR MAINTENANCE EFFORTS HAVE BEEN. AND THAT SIDE'S, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS IN, ALWAYS BEEN IN GREAT SHAPE. BUT I, I CAN, YEAH. NO, I SAW IT BIG HOLE IN THE BRICK YOUR WALL. YEAH. THAT MADE ME SAD WHEN I SAW THAT . OKAY, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, LOT FOLKS ARE JUST WAITING FOR HURRICANE SEASON TO BE OVER BEFORE BE OVER BEFORE THEY REPLACE THE FENCE. I'M AMAZED THAT OUR CITIZENS AND FENCING IS KEEP PUTTING IN TOWARDS FENCES. VERY OFFENSIVE RIGHT NOW. PUT IN A HURRICANE FENCE BECAUSE SO MANY FOLKS NEED A FENCE. OH YEAH. WELL THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED HURRICANE FENCES. YEP. KAY. ANYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE REQUIRED? HARRY, I'M READY FOR THE PEOPLE ON Y POND AND THEIR FENCES ARE, THAT'S EMBARRASSING, BUT I UNDERSTAND GIVING 'EM A CHANCE. BUT, UH, THAT'S A REAL CHALLENGE. THAT'S, I'M GOOD MA'AM. HOW ARE MY SATCH HOMIES DOING? THEY'RE ADVERTISING CRAZY. YEAH. OH. EVERYWHERE AISLE OUT ON THAT PROJECT. OKAY. WE STILL, UH, OUTSTANDING. THEY STILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR A FINAL SITE PLAN AND A FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. SO WE'RE FIGHTING THAT ONE STILL WITH THEM. I'M GONNA BE ON THIS COMMISSION FOR 40 YEARS AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE DAGGER IN MY HEART. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AT THE BEGINNING WHEN THAT GUY WAS IN HERE MARCHING AROUND SAYING WE NEVER SELL OUR PROPERTIES AND WE LOVE EVERYBODY AND WE'RE GOODY TWO SHOES. IT'S GONNA BE THE DAGGER IN MY HEART FOR 40 YEARS. I'M SERIOUS. THE GUY THAT REPLACES YOU THREE TIMES OVER IS GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT. . YES. EVERYTHING LOOKS AMAZING IN YOUR TOWN. SAL, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO YOUNG MAN. NO, YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL WHILE DOING IT. IT DOESN'T. GOOD JOB, . YOU GOOD MAN? I'M WONDERFUL. RHONDA, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE? NO, SIR. YOU GUYS DOING A GREAT JOB. APPRECIATE Y'ALL. MODESTO, ANYTHING, UH, JUDGE COMMENT TO, TO, UH, SOUTH PROPERTY ON, ON THAT, UH, PROPERTY UNTIL THEY GET ALL THEIR PAPERWORK IN. WE'VE WITHHELD, UH, 10 COS YEAH. YEAH. OH YEAH. HE, HE'S HE UPDATES ME EVERY, I CAN'T SAY ON THAT SAME PROPERTY. I DID ASK FOR THAT GUN TO COME. OH, THAT WAS AN ELECTIVE BILL. IIII HAD JUST GOTTEN HERE AND I WAS ALL YOUNG AND DUMB AND EXACTLY THE SAME. OH, HE HAD A GRACE FEEL DAGGER IN MY HEART. DAGGER IN MY HEART. THOSE TREES GOING D IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN BY GOD. I WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL AND I'LL PRACTICE LOGGING IF I HAVE TO. . I'M SERIOUS. THAT'S PRETTY. I'M SERIOUS MAN. YOU KNOW ME ON THAT. I'M BURNT OUT LIKE A LOG ON THAT ONE. OH, IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. LES REMEMBER A GUY THAT, UH, TINGLES THINKING, A CHEMIST THAT GOT MAD AT THE FORD PLACE IN UH, KLU. SO HE DECIDED TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL. OH, IS THAT AND HE GOT HIS LAW DEGREE AND THEY WERE OUT OF BUSINESS BACK THEN. BE WHATEVER. WAS THE BEAN FORD THEN, OR UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PLACE. PINTO BEAN? YEAH. YEAH. PINTO BEAN. YEAH, PINTO BEAN. YOU REMEMBER THAT? . WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT ON THE CREEK, I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 65, SO YEAH. I'M GLAD MATT STRAIGHTENED THAT OUT. HE RAN AROUND UP AND DOWN THE CREEK AT YOUR DAD'S HOUSE. YEP. RIGHT. GOTTA RUN IT. UH, NICOLE, ANYTHING SAL, WHAT'S THE EDDIE REPORT? OH, EDDIE'S ALL ALREADY BACK IN THE BACK IN THE JOB. OH. HE DIDN'T WANNA COME SEE US. HE WAS NERVOUS. HE IS GRANDDAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY TODAY. GOOD EXCUSE. GOOD COVER. WE SEE, LEMME FIND OUT YOU GOT A CUPCAKE ON YOUR DESK FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT BUYOUT. I GET IT. LOOKS GOOD FOR GRANDDADDY. HE DOES NO JOKE. HE'S GOT TWO, HE'S GOT TWINS COMING. GOD BLESS. OH LORD. BUT HE HAS TWINS COMING. NO GRANDFATHER. OH. SAY WHOA. GRAND TWINS. . AWESOME. GOD BLESS. HE'S A GOOD MAN. HE DESERVES IT. OKAY, [12. SET NEXT MEETING DATE] [00:50:01] ANNA. WHEN'S OUR NEXT ONE ON TUESDAY. OCTOBER THE FIRST. OCTOBER 1ST. I KEEP GETTING THESE WEIRD CALENDAR INVITES. I WON'T BE HERE. EVERYBODY ELSE BE HERE. I'LL BE HERE OCTOBER 1ST. I'M NOT SURE. LET ME LOOK AT THAT. LET'S ANOTHER TRIP. I WAS, YEAH, ANOTHER TRIP. , YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PLANNING THEM RIGHT LATELY. GETTING INTO THE END OF THE YEAR QUICK. YEAH, MAN, THIS YEAR HAS FLOWN BY. IT'S BEEN AMAZING. NO, I'M LEAVING ON THE 12TH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOSH DARN. THOSE ONES AND TWOS GET CONFUSING. . ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. OH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.