Oct 01, 2024 Planning Commission

ANYBODY THE AUDIENCE? ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT? HARRY, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

COTTON? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

NO.

MATTHEW? I'M GOOD BOSS.

SAL, IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, IT'S, UH, SIMPLE.

THEY JUST CHANGE YOUR MIND AND ADDED POINT 17 ACRES ON, I'M 17 OF AN ACRE AND, AND CAME BACK AGAIN FOR A REZONING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT, NOTHING ELSE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION RE REZONE A, UH, 3.00 ACRE PORTION OF A 10 ACRE LOT TWO OF PLANTATION VILLAGE, SECTION 14 OF THE HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH SIDE AT 200 LAKE ROAD FROM B THREE INSTITUTION OF TO B ONE, A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT,

[5. PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THE 3.591-ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACT AT 333 FM 2004 FROM A B-1 (NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS) TO B-3 (INSTITUTIONAL) USE FOR THE NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE.]

NEXT ITEM.

PUBLIC HEARING TO REZONE THE 3.591 ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACK AT 3 33 FM 2004 FROM A B ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO A B THREE INSTITUTIONAL FOR THE USE OF NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A LITTLE, UH, CORRECTION TO THE ACREAGE THERE FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY A 3.591 TO ONE THAT IS 3.453 AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS, UH, ADVERTISED AS SUCH, UH, I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE, UH, FROM OUR ATTORNEY, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

THANK YOU.

SO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AS ADJUSTED.

ANYBODY TALK ON THAT ONE? IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CHURCH HEARING? YES.

OH, OKAY.

LONG DRIVE.

SORRY.

YOU HAVE THE, YEAH, YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT TO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND, UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTE TO REONE THAT PROPERTY AS YOUR CLIENT REQUESTED.

IT'S, GO AHEAD.

UH, THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY A, UH, FITNESS CENTER AND WE'RE WANTING TO REZONE IT AS A CHURCH.

UM, THERE WON'T BE A SCHOOL OR ANY DAYCARE AND IT IS JUST STRICTLY A CHURCH.

ADDRESS? 3 9 5 SHARON LANE.

HARRY, ANY QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? JUST YES.

NAME'S? JASON DEDE.

ALVIN, TEXAS.

ANY QUESTIONS? HARRY? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

PARDON? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

ARE WE RELOCATING AN ALREADY EXISTING CHURCH DOWN HERE? NO, IT'S IN A ADDITIONAL CHURCH FOR US.

WE HAVE, SO THIS IS BE A NEW LOCATION FOR AN PREEXISTING? YEAH, WE HAVE FIVE LOCATIONS CURRENTLY.

THIS WILL BE SIXTH.

THEY, UH, EXTENDED THEIR PARKING LOT INTO THE OTHER TRACK.

SAL, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, NO.

UH, THE REASON, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE REASON WHY WE'RE CHANGING THE ACREAGE, UH, THERE, UH, THIS TRACK LIES RIGHT NEXT TO A, UH, VACANT TRACK AT THE CORNER OF, UH, YON IN 2004.

RIGHT.

UH, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED INTO THE FITNESS, OF COURSE IT WAS OWNED BY THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER.

SO WHEN THEY BILLED THE FITNESS CENTER,

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THE STRIP WAS ABOUT 16 FEET, I BELIEVE, FOR THE FULL DEPTH.

AND, UH, THE WAY THE, UH, THE, THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE, UH, THE DETAIL AND THE DOCUMENT, UH, IS THAT, UH, THE, OF COURSE WHEN THEY SOLD THE PROPERTY TO THE CHURCH, THEY ONLY SOLD THE PROPERTY.

THE, THE TRACK ITSELF WERE THE FITNESS CENTER AND NOT THE OVERALL SITE WHICH ENCROACHES NOW INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT IT WAS A FULL PROP, THE FULL SITE.

NOW WE KNOW THAT IT ISN'T.

SO WE ARE ONLY DOING TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE EXISTING, UH, OF THE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF OF FITNESS CENTER A LOT.

AND THE CHURCH IS AWARE OF THAT.

WE ARE AWARE OF IT.

UM, WE'RE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE OTHER LOT.

WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT, BUT, UH, WE'RE OKAY WITH PROCEEDING THIS WAY.

AND THE IMPACT NOW IS PARKING ONLY WE'D HAVE TO STRIFE.

UH, CORRECT.

THEY CAN UH, THEY CAN EITHER COURT IT OFF IF, UH, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT THE, UH, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WANTS TO DO, OR YOU KNOW, HE CAN, THEN THEY CAN NEGOTIATE SOME PARKING AGREEMENT IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

UH, WHEN THE SITE COMES IN HERE, BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO COME BACK LATER ON, ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL THEN, UH, THEY WILL THEN, UH, MORE OR LESS TELL WHETHER OR NOT THE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE WITHOUT THAT PARKING, WITHOUT THAT ADDITIONAL STRIP THERE, WHETHER IT'LL BE ENOUGH FOR THEIR OWN, FOR THEIR OWN NECESSITY.

AND, UH, SO THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER THEY STILL CAN, WILL PROCEED WITH THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, NEED TO PUT IN THAT DIGITAL PARKING OR NOT.

AND WILL THIS PROCESS IMPACT LANDSCAPE PLANS AND SUCH ALONG THE WAY? OH, NOT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT IS OCCUPIED BY PAVEMENT ONLY OR BY, I DON'T MEAN JUST THAT STRIP.

I MEAN THE WHOLE THING.

OH YES.

THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A LANDSCAPE PLAN TOO.

RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, JASON.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO REZONE THE 3.453 ACRE FAMILY FITNESS TRACK AT 3 33 FM 2004 FROM A B ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO A B THREE INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR THE NEW HOPE CHURCH SITE? WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? AYE.

GOT THREE, FOUR, AND ONE AGAINST.

LET'S SEE,

[6. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON PLAT AMENDMENT OF LOT 55A, A REPLAT OF LOTS 55 & 56, BLOCK 3 OF AREA E LAKE JACKSON TOWNSITE LOCATED AT 108 HUISACHE FILED ON OCTOBER 1, 2024.]

NEXT ITEM.

ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON PLA AMENDMENT OF LOT 55 A, A REPLAY OF LOTS.

55 56 BLOCK THREE OF AREA E LAKE JACKSON TOWN SITE LOCATED AT 1 0 8.

ATCH FILED ON OCTOBER THE FIRST, 24.

UH, THE OWNER, THE POLICE COFFEE HERE OR THE SURVEYOR REPRESENTATIVE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

SO, UH, WE EITHER BEEN TAKE IT OURSELVES AND IT'S A SIMPLE ONE.

IT SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM, BUT YOU, YOU'D RATHER NOT WILLING UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

UH, SO YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED WITH THIS THING? YOU WANNA EXPLAIN IT TO US NOW? UH, YES.

UH, I'LL LET, UH, NICOLE TAKE CARE OF AND SHE TAKE CARE OF, I MEAN, DID MOST OF THE LEG WORK ON THIS ONE? OKAY.

THERE'S TWO, UH, LOTS SIDE BY SIDE.

THE NORTHERN ONE HAS A EVIDENCE ON IT, AND THEY ALSO OWN THE SOUTHERN ONE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO CONSOLIDATE THE TWO TRACKS INTO ONE TRACK.

UM, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS AN OLDER LOT.

SO WHEN IT WAS BUILT, THEY HAD A FIVE FOOT BUILDING LINE AND NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CUMULATIVE 15 FOR THE SIDE YARDS.

SO WE KEPT THE FIVE ON THE, ON THE NORTHERN PORTION BASED ON A SURVEY FILE THAT SAL FOUND AN OLDER ONE AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION'S GOING TO BE 10 FOOT TO MAKE IT EQUAL TO THE 15.

SO THE SURVEYOR NOTED THAT OVER HERE, UM, THE SETBACK OF REQUIREMENTS AND THEN ALSO THERE'S ONE ABOUT, UM, OFF STREET PARKING, THE TWO CAR GARAGE COMPLIANCE WITH OUR OR ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN UPDATED SINCE THIS WAS A PRE 1961 BLOCK.

SO IT HAS THE NEW REQUIREMENTS

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FOR THAT.

UM, PRETTY QUESTIONS.

CAN WE ELABORATE? CAN YOU SHOW US ON GOOGLE EARTH? SURE.

THEIR REMODEL WILL INCLUDE A TWO CAR GARAGE.

I THINK THAT THAT'S AN ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.

IF THEY WERE TO REBUILD ON THAT.

UM, SITE.

SO WE, WE HAD THE WORDING SO THAT IT WOULD WORK WHETHER THEY REBUILD OR DIDN'T REBUILD.

SO IT WOULD BE VALID EITHER WAY.

I THINK THE INTENT IS TO REBUILD, UM, BUT WE CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE PERCENT.

BUT THEY'D ONLY BE ONE STRUCTURE.

IT WILL ONLY BE ONE STRUCTURE.

AND THAT IS RULED OR THAT THAT IS, UH, CONTROLLED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WHEN THE PERMITS, ANYTHING, IF PERMITS, ANYTHING.

WHAT IS ZONING HERE? R TWO R.

THAT'S AN R TWO.

R TWO A R TWO A R TWO A.

UM, SO IT'S THIS 1 0 8 ATCH AND THEN NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A HOME ON IT, BUT IS OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER AS 1 0 8.

THIS, THIS NEVER HAD A HOME ON IT, CORRECT? OR I SHOULDN'T SAY NEVER, BUT I JUST GOT A DRIVEWAY 40 YEARS AGO.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BURN.

UH, EITHER A FIRE PROPERTY OR MAY HAVE JUST BEEN REMOVED.

I MEAN THAT DRIVEWAY'S BEEN EMPTY SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, CORRECT.

YOU NEED STREET VIEW OR ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOOD.

GARY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO COTTON.

UH, I HAVE NOTHING.

MATT.

I'M GOOD.

DOES ANYBODY WANT, DO WE WANNA PROCEED WITH A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE PLAT AMENDMENT OF LOT 55 A, A RELAID OF LOTS.

55 AND 56 BLOCK THREE OF AREA E LAKE JACKSON TOWN SITE LOCATED 1 0 8 9.

WE SAT FILE ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

WELL, MOTION WE HAVE SECOND.

A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

[7. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF NEW TDECU (SPACE CITY FINANCIAL) BANKING FACILITY AT 80 OAK DRIVE.]

NEXT ITEM.

ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.

NEW TDC SPACE CITY FINANCIAL BANKING FACILITY AT 80 OAK DRIVE.

ADDITION BELONGS TO JOHN.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, JOHN HAYES.

UH, I'M WITH, UH, THE ELEMENT GROUP.

I WAS HERE, UH, ALMOST LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO, UH, LOOKING AT REDOING, UH, THE PROPERTY, UH, AT THAT POINT IN TIME THERE WAS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM YOU ABOUT THE SIZE OR QUANTITY OF PARKING, WHICH I THINK AT THAT POINT IN TIME WAS LIKE 28.

YES.

WENT BACK TO T-D-E-C-U AND BROUGHT THAT UP AND THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT DESIGN ITERATIONS, WE'VE COME BACK WITH A, AN ADDITIONAL 28 SPACES THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADD.

UH, THAT 28 SPACES IS TOWARD, UH, GET THE DIRECTIONS RIGHT.

I THINK TOWARD THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, IT WILL REQUIRE A REPL, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, FILED TO EXTEND OR ENLARGE THE, THE PROPERTY INCORPORATE THE 28 ADDITIONAL SPACES.

THE, UH, BALANCE OF THE, UH, LOT DOES NOT CHANGE.

SAM? UH, LIKE JOHN SAYS, UH, THE PROPERTY ITSELF HAS NOT CHANGED OTHER THAN THERE WAS A SLIGHT MOVE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

JUST A SLIGHT, UH, ADJUSTMENT TO IT.

IT WAS NO, THE FOOTPRINT IS ACTUALLY EXACTLY AS DONE.

IT WAS THE BUT AS FAR AS THE LOCATION OF NO, IT DID NOT, IT WAS INITIAL DESIGNED TO DO THAT.

OH, IS THAT CHANGED? OKAY.

BUT WE WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT.

UM, SO PER THE ORIGINAL PLANS, IT'S TO THERE, THE ONLY THING WE'RE ADDING IS WE'D LIKE TO ADD IS 28, THE ENTRANCE HAS REMAINED THE SAME.

UH, THERE WAS A SLIGHT CHANGE TO, TO THE ONE AT, AT CENTER WAY PRIMARILY BECAUSE A, AN OBSTRUCTION OF THE HAND OF THE GUARDRAIL, I BELIEVE, UH, OF THE TRUCTURE.

BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY CHANGE OF THE, ON THE SIDE ITSELF.

OF COURSE, A MAJOR CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IS DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH WHERE THEY ARE ALSO HAVING TO ADD, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLANT THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO INCREASE THAT, UH, TO ASSEMBLE THAT PARTICULAR PIECE THAT THEY'RE ADDING TO.

AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE PARKING THAT WAS ADDED TO IT IS, IS GONNA BE.

NOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE WERE ORIGINALLY 28, NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE 56.

IS, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, PRELIMINARY.

SO THEY'RE DOUBLING UP ON THAT.

UH, ALL THE CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH THE CIVIL PORTION OF THAT, UH, CHANGE IS BEING LOOKED AT.

UH, THIS

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SO WE ARE, AND WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED, UH, COMMENTS BACK TO THE, UH, TO THE ENGINEER, UH, OF THINGS THAT, UH, THAT NEED TO BE REVISITED FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR SATISFACTION CONCERNING DRAINAGE.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO REALIZE ON THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE IS THAT THAT SECOND LEVEL OF PARKING THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO IS BEING BUILT AT A LOWER LEVEL THAN THE ORIGINAL.

THAN THE ORIGINAL PATH.

MM-HMM.

AND THE RE AND THE REASON THAT IS IN ORDER FOR, I THINK IT'S A COST SAVING MEASURE TAKEN BY EITHER THE ENGINEER OR THE ARCHITECT.

I DON'T KNOW JOHN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT.

WHO WAS THE ENGINEER AGAIN, THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING COMPONENT AS IS.

SO I THINK IT WAS JUST HIS SOLUTION TO LOWER THAT WE STILL CAN DRAIN OUT.

YEAH, SO THAT DOESN'T, UH, WELL, THAT THEY WOULDN'T, UH, YEAH, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO FILL THAT MUCH IN, INTO THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE SETTING IT AT A LOWER LEVEL, UH, THE A A 100 YEAR TOP EVENT, WHICH WE DO NOT REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, WILL, WILL, UH, GET THIS PARTICULAR AREA UNDER WATER, UH, DURING THOSE TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT AS LONG AS THE, UH, DEVELOPER OR THE OWNER AND THE, UH, ENGINEER, UH, MAKE IT KNOWN AND THEY AGREE TO THAT THING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM THAT AS LONG AS THEY ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THAT SITUATION OCCURRING UNDER THAT TYPE OF CONDITION.

HOW MANY TIMES DOES A HUNDRED YEAR TOP FOOT CONDITION OCCUR THOUGH? YOU ARE A BETTER JUDGE THAN WE ARE.

AND WITH A HUNDRED YEAR, WOULD IT BACK INTO IT FROM THE DRAINAGE AND THE BOTTOM LEFT OR WOULD IT ACCUMULATE FROM THE WILL SHOW YOU MORE.

DID YOU THAT THE NATURAL DRAINAGE.

THE BOTTOM LEFT, I BELIEVE.

WE'LL SHOW YOU A, WE'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE PERCEIVE.

SEE THAT, THAT BLUE WATER OR THAT BLUESHIELD AREA, RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULD BE THE ONE A YEAR TOP CONDITION THERE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR FLOOD.

BUT THAT WOULD BE BACKING UP FROM THE, IT WOULD BE ON THE BACKSIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW WE, UH, DID IT.

AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A SPECIFIC DETENTION POND.

IS THAT I I THINK THAT DITCH WAS THE PLAN AND WELL, NO, THIS IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM THE DITCH.

SO THIS WHOLE SITE FALLS UNDER THE HEB, UM, DRAINAGE PLAN AND THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER.

IT'S NOT LIKE OTHER SITES IN OUR AREA WHERE YOU HAVE THE DIFFERENT MAIN EVENTS.

THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM COVER THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE.

THAT WAS ALREADY RUN THROUGH HYDRAULICS BACK WHEN HEB CAME IN AND THEY HAVE A NOTE ON THEIR SITE PLAN TO THAT OVER HERE.

IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THIS ONE FROM AUGUST, 2014.

TO GIVE YOU A PERS UH, PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES TO, FOR ANY OF THE SITES, WE ONLY REQUIRE THAT THEY, THAT THEY DESIGN FOR A 10 YEAR, UH, TOP OF EVENT WITH A, UH, AN INUNDATION OF, UH, INUNDATION OF THE PARKING LOT OF, NOT MORE THAN, WHAT IS IT? SIX.

SIX INCHES.

SIX INCHES, UH, ON, ON A HUNDRED YEAR JOB CONDITION.

HEARING ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

COTTON? NO.

I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT THEY WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT PARKING.

MATT.

GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIVE AND REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE NEW TDCU SPACE CITY FINANCIAL BANKING FACILITY AT 80 OAK.

DRIVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND BILL.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR A.

NEXT ITEM IS THE SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT,

[8. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE NEW TDECU (SPACE CITY FINANCIAL) BANKING FACILITY AT 80 OAK DRIVE.]

SO WE JUST RECENTLY I MADE, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE, UH, RECEIVED, UH, FROM THE PLANTING, UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES, UH, ONLY DUE TO THE ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT GOT, UH, I THINK ADJUSTED UP PLUS

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I THINK WHERE IT'S LIKE TWO TREES THAT WERE BLOWN DOWN FROM THE PAST HURRICANES WE'RE MAKING, UH, ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE TREES TO, TO REPLACE THOSE, UH, IN THOSE, THOSE AREAS.

THERE IS A GROUPING OF TREES IN THE, UH, LOWER RIGHT CORNER.

I'M GETTING AN ARBORIST OUT THERE JUST TO IDENTIFY WHAT SPECIES THEY ARE, JUST SO THAT I GET CLARITY IN TERMS OF WHAT TREES, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE DOWN.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF A LARGE SIZE IF, IF WE CAN WORK THE DESIGN AROUND THAT, JUST TRYING TO KEEP THOSE IN PLACE.

UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GET THAT REWORKED.

BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT JUST IN TERMS OF INCORPORATING THE CURRENT DESIGN BASED ON THE ACREAGE HERE, UH, AND I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY DOWN IN THE LOWER CORNER, THERE WERE SOME TREES THAT ARE THERE AND JUST RECONFIRM THEIR PLACEMENTS, UH, IN THAT, THAT AREA.

SO, UH, I'LL LET, UH, I'LL LET GO.

TAKE, TAKE THAT ONE TOO.

SHE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DOING PRIMARY WORK.

UH, YEAH.

THE BIG CHANGES BEFORE IT WAS LESS THAN TWO ACRES AND NOW THAT IT'S MORE THAN TWO ACRES, IT PUSHED THE, UH, PU REQUIREMENT.

SO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT UPDATED THIS SECTION FOR THEIR CALIPER INCH REQUIREMENT FOR TREES THAT ARE PRESERVED ON THE SITE.

IT WAS 25 ON THE MENU, APPROVED PREVIOUSLY FOR LESS THAN TWO ACRES, AND NOW IT'S 50.

SO PART OF WHAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED ABOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHAT TREES ARE AT THE SITE, WHICH ONES CAN BE COUNTED TOWARD, TOWARDS THAT REQUIREMENT MAY COME INTO PLAY WITH THE DONATION TREES THAT WERE, UM, ARRANGED ON THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL, WHICH I DO WANNA MENTION, JOHN TRIED TO DELIVER THEM BEFORE THIS MEETING AND WE'RE STILL ON HURRICANE CLEANUP.

SO WE WERE LIKE, LET'S HAVE THE BREAKS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW PLAN ALIGNS WITH IT BEFORE WE GET THE TREES DELIVERED.

UM, IF THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THIS PLAN DOESN'T MEET THE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT, THAT THE PUD HAS A SECTION THAT SAYS THE DEVELOPER COULD PLANT THOSE TREES IN A PLACE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.

SO THE, THE ONUS OF THE PLANTING IF THERE WERE EXTRA COULD BE DETERMINED.

SO THIS CAN BE APPROVED EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT ALL TREES ARE.

THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE.

SO THIS ADMINISTRATIVE, SO WE'RE CLEANING UP EVERYTHING PRIOR TO BRINGING UP .

NEXT I HAVE SIGNATURE DOCUMENTS.

THAT ALSO INVOLVE THE TYPE OF TREES.

UH, YEAH, WE HAVE THE DONATION TREES.

WERE LISTED OUT BY WHICH TYPES OF TREES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE EXISTING TREES ARE AT THE SITE TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S BEING REMOVED OR PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.

ANYTHING ELSE SIR? NO COPY.

NO.

MATT? SO IT'S AN ADMINISTRATION RE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

DO WE VOTE ON THIS TODAY OR DO WE WAIT? NO, YOU CAN VOTE ON THAT.

WE, WE CAN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

NO, BUT YOU CAN.

WE CAN.

IF YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE, IF YOU SIT, I MEAN IF YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO, YOU CAN PASS IT ON TO THE, TO TO THE NEXT ONE ON PRELIMINARY AND FINAL.

THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO YOU.

WOULD YOU RATHER POST, PUSH IT BACK THEN OR WHAT? I WOULD TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THE ARBORIST IS GONNA SAY AND TO GET A TRUE COUNT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP AND NOT KEEP DON'T YOU MAKE A MOTION TO THAT? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY THE ADMINISTRATION ACTION ON LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE NEW TDCU SPACE CITY FINANCIAL BANKING FACILITY AT 80 OAK DRIVE UNTIL THE FIELD VERIFIED SIZE AND TYPE OF TREES ARE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL OR TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.

[9. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS]

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME TO SIGN THIS TIME.

SO GOT THREE OF EM.

IN FACT, WE GOT THREE DOTS.

YES, WE HAVE APPLIED TWO OF SIGNED FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST, UH, APPROVED, BUT EVERYTHING'S HERE AND NONE OF BACK IN THE ROOM.

EVERYTHING'S HERE.

OF COMMUNITY INTEREST HERE.

ITEMS

[10. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

NO.

COTTON? NO.

HOW'S OUR FRIEND EDDIE DOING? HE'S ON VACATION.

DAMN.

I SAW HIM OUT IN THE WILD THE OTHER DAY.

HE GOT TIRED AND SAID NO, I'M GONE.

YEAH, I MEAN HE HAD, HE HAD, HE HAD BEEN WORKING A WHOLE WEEK.

I, SO HE DESERVED VACATION AND UH, NO, HE'S, UH, HE'S ON

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HIS, UH, BEING A GRANDFATHER WITH FOUR TWINS AGAIN.

SO HE'S IN THAT DUTY RIGHT NOW.

GOD BLESS.

YEAH, I SEE THAT THE OYSTER CREEK IS GETTING, UH, SEALED RIGHT NOW FROM THE CRACKS.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY.

TODAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I SAW THAT COMING, COMING OVER HERE.

YEAH, THEY GOT THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, BOARDED UP THERE.

YEAH, THEY HAD ONE LANE SHUT OUT.

HOW'S OUR WES HATCH DEVELOPMENT DOING? IT'S IN ALMOST IN THE FINAL COMPLETION STAGES OF IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, SOME, UH, PIECEMEAL, UH, REAR ROTTING SOME OF THE DOWN, UH, DOWNSPOUTS FROM BUILDINGS TRYING TO DIRECT THEM TO, TO THE PROPER DRAINAGE CHANNELS.

UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY THING THAT IS MISSING THERE.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, WELL THEY'RE STILL GETTING, UH, THEIR OCCUPANCY PERMITS AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM FOR THEM TO COMPLETE IT.

I SEE THE CONVENIENCE STORE OVER BY, UH, FIRST STATE BANK IN OLD, UH, RICK'S BAR HAS STARTED THEIR CIVIL WORK.

YES.

AND THEY'RE STILL GOING WITH THEIR UNDERGROUND RETENTION POND.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO.

PARTY ON? YES.

WHAT'S THE WATER LEAK? RIGHT DOWN HERE, DOWN THE STREET.

THE WATER LEAK DOWN THE STREET.

THE WATER LEAK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

THEY OH, IS THAT ONE WHICH ONE BY WHICH JUST PAST THE CAR WASH DOWN THAT WAY.

IT'S ONLY BEEN COM.

FINALLY THEY FINALLY GOT, UH, WERE ABLE TO TO, IT'S AN OLD ARE YOU SEEING MORE MOISTURE? THERE WAS WATER THAT SOLE SIDE WHERE THE PARKING WATER WAS THAT JUST NOW WHEN I CAME BY THERE WAS DRY.

DON'T TELL ME THAT.

UNLESS THEY'RE JUST, UNLESS THEY STILL GOT A PUMP RUNNING OR SOMETHING.

IT WAS RUNNING PRETTY GOOD.

THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM AND A HALF.

UH, THAT'S FIRST GENERATION ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE AND THE FIRST OF ALL, THEY DON'T MAKE, UH, THE REPAIR PARTS FOR THAT AND .

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A BATTLE.

IT'S BEEN A BATTLE, UH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR PIPE.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAD ABOUT TWO, TWO OR THREE BREAKS IN THE COURSE OF TRYING TO MAKE REPAIRS TO THAT THING.

AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU STILL SEE SOME WET, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

IS THAT GIFFORD HILL PIPE? IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL IT? NO.

UH, WELL, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE BACK IN THOSE DAYS, THEY TOLD ME IT WAS CALLED CENTURY PIPE.

UH, SO MAYBE HALF CENTURY .

THIS A SCOUTING REQUIREMENT OR NO? WE, ACROSS THE STREET WE WERE JUST CURIOUS.

MID-CENTURY PIPE.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT WAS.

UH, BUT, UH, YES, IT, IT WAS, IT, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF, UH, QUALITY CONTROL BACK THEN.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE MANDRELS THAT THEY USED TO MAKE CEMENT PIPE WITH, OF COURSE IT HAD A WAVY TYPE OF, UH, HAVE TO FINISH THERE AND MAKES CANE IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE GOOD COUPLINGS AND GOOD CONNECTIONS TO IT.

SO THEY DON'T, WE DON'T USE, UH, WELL WE DON'T USE ANY CEMENT PIPE ANYMORE FOR WATER ANYWAY.

UH, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL PLASTIC OR HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE NOW.

SO THIS IS WHATEVER WE STILL HAVE.

WHENEVER WE DO GET IT, WE EITHER REPLACE IT ENTIRELY OR MAKE SOME PATCHING WORK IF WE CAN AT THE TIME.

WHAT WAS THAT FAILURE IN THE SEWAGE AT CHOP POND THAT WAS SURPRISED? WASN'T THAT NEWER PATH THAN YOU THOUGHT, BUT NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OUTFALL.

WELL, UH, THAT OH, IN ANYWAY, ANYWAY.

ANY, UH, ON ANY WAY? YEAH, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT OUT TOWARDS THE COLLEGE.

OH, THAT'S ALSO, YEAH.

THAT, THAT WAS THE SEDENTARY SEWER LINE, RIGHT? THAT, UH, BROKE AND THAT WAS NO, THAT WAS, UH, UH, THAT WAS THE CLAY PIPE FAILURE THERE AND THEY MADE A REPAIR TO THAT AREA THERE UNDERNEATH THE STREET THERE.

OH YEAH.

I SAW IT.

SIGNIFICANT BY SURPRISE PIPES ALONG THERE WERE OLD ENOUGH TO REQUIRE THAT THERE.

WELL THESE GO BACK, UH, BEFORE PECAN LAKE, RIGHT.

AS PEGON LAKE SUBDIVISION.

I SAID CHAPON.

I I MEANT PECAN LAKE.

PEGON LAKE.

UH UH, BACK WHEN I CAME THERE WAS NOTHING BUT A TRACTOR AND A TREE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT.

WELL, YEAH, BUT THIS ONE WAS COMING ALL THE WAY FROM UH, OYSTER BEND.

OYSTER BEND, YEAH.

FROM OYSTER BEND DOWN THERE.

I'LL BE DONE.

YEP.

RHONDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF WISDOM FOR US? NONE.

SORRY.

MODESTO.

ANYTHING NEW HAPPENING? NO, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? ANYTHING ? NICOLE? ANYTHING SOUND? ANYTHING ELSE? NOT ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

DAVID, IS

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IS YOUR CURIOSITY SEATED NOW OR? I'M GONNA ASK.

ANNA, WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? THE NEXT ONE IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE FIFTH.

[11. SET NEXT MEETING DATE]

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH.

EVERYBODY GOOD FOR THE NOVEMBER THE FIFTH? I HOPE SO.

NOVEMBER THE FIFTH, MR. RETIRED .

IT'S OPENING WE OF DEER SEASON.

OH, COOL.

MORE THAN LIKELY.

WELL, THAT'S ELECTION DAY.

I'LL HAVE VOTED.

THERE'LL BE A ONE NATIONAL BEFORE THAT.