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SIX 30 ON THE COMPUTER.

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ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH TONIGHT'S MEETING.

UH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY, UH, SHOWING UP.

UH, AND, UH, THIS IS, UM, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH, UH, 2024 REGULAR SESSION.

LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL AT 6:30 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

WE'LL BEGIN, UH, THIS EVENING WITH PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN BROADUS.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, UNDER INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

HONOR, HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG.

P DEE TEXAS IS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, AND THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING WILL BE, UH, GIVEN BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.

LET US PRAY.

DEAR HEAVEN, ME.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HERE THIS EVENING.

AND AS OUR MEETING PROGRESSES AND DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US THE STRENGTH, WISDOM, AND COURAGE FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR EMT PERSONNEL, FIRE AND POLICE PERSONNEL.

OUR MEN AND WOMEN ARE ARMED FORCES, AND WE ASK THAT YOU TRAVEL WITH EACH AND EVERYONE WHEN WE HEAD HOME.

GET US HOME SAFELY IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR.

UH, NEXT ITEM

[PRESENTATIONS]

IS PRESENTATIONS.

AND I HAVE A PROCLAMATION FESTIVAL LIGHTS, UH, PROCLAMATION.

SO I GERALD ROSKI BY AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 20TH, 2024 AS FESTIVAL LIGHTS MONTH.

THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON URGE EACH, UH, CITIZEN TO JOIN US THIS MONTH IN CELEBRATING OUR 35TH ANNUAL FESTIVAL LIGHTS.

WHEREAS WE COME TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER AS FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND NEIGHBORS.

IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS SPECIAL SEASON, THE 35TH ANNUAL FESTIVAL LIGHTS, UH, WHERE YOU WILL ENTER A WORLD OF HOLIDAY MAGIC.

AS THOUSANDS OF FESTIVAL FESTIVE LIGHTS CREATE A WINTER WINTERLAND FOR ALL TO SEE.

UH, WHEREAS ON NOVEMBER 23RD, THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN AREA WILL BE FILLED WITH THE HOLIDAY SPIRIT AS PEOPLE ENJOY THE ENTERTAINMENT AND FOOD PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

AND WHEREAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE FESTIVAL WILL BE ON THE EVENING OF THE 23RD AS PEOPLE WATCH WITH FACES OF GLOW, THE PARADE WITH FABULOUS DISPLAYS OF, UH, LIGHTED FLOATS AND HOLIDAY CHEER.

THIS HOLIDAY PERCEPTIONAL WILL, UH, INCLUDE AREA, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, AND SCHOOL GROUPS WITH CHILDHOOD, UH, FAVORITES OLD ST.

NICK, IN WHICH HE WILL MAKE HIS FIRST OFFICIAL VISIT OF THE SEASON.

AND NOW THEREFORE, WE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, 2024 AS THE FESTIVAL A LIGHTS MONTH IN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON IN TESTIMONY, WHEREAS WITNESS MY HAND AND SEAL THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON THIS 18TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2024.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, GOOD.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE FUN.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT, UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM TWO IS YOUR CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

GOOD EVENING.

I DON'T HAVE A PROCLAMATION, SO I HAVE A NEWS RELEASE.

GOOD.

SO, THE GENERAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA HAS AWARDED THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT AND EXCELLENCE FOR FINANCIAL REPORTING TO THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON FOR ITS ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.

THE REPORT HAS BEEN JUDGED BY AN IMPARTIAL PANEL TO MEET THE HIGH STANDARDS OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDES DEMONSTRATING A CONSTRUCTIVE SPIRIT OF FULL DISCLOSURE TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE ITS FINANCIAL STORY AND MOTIVATED POTENTIAL USERS AND USERS GROUPS TO READ THE REPORT.

THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN THE AREA OF GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING.

AND ITS ATTAINMENT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND ITS MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS THE 29TH YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE HAVE WON THE AWARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF THAT HAS HELPED WITH THE CITY TO PUT THE, UH, AUDIT TOGETHER AND SIGNED COPIES OF THIS BEAUTIFUL REPORTER AVAILABLE.

THEY MAKE NICE STOCKING STUFFERS, PHENOMENAL FEE.

AND LASTLY, I WILL CHIP DOOR STOPS .

I WILL GET YOU OUTTA HERE FOR THE TEXAS COWBOY GAMES.

'CAUSE I'M DONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU, JAMES.

WELL, VERY GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD WORK.

THAT'S GREAT WORK.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, NEXT ITEM IS A VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

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UH, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE TO, UH, BRING AN ISSUE THAT THEY WISH, UH, TO COUNCIL THAT IS IN FRONT OF COUNSEL THAT IS NOT ON REGULAR OR CONSENT AGENDAS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WISHING TO BRING AN ISSUE? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE ANY MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONFLICT TO DECLARE, UH, HEARING ANNIE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALRIGHT, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024, EXCEPT BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS MINUTES, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSIONS, TRAFFIC COMMISSION, AND YAK.

ITEM THREE IS AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH YELLOWSTONE LANDSCAPE FOR PARKS MOWING GROUP FIVE HIGHWAYS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $120,248, UTILIZING THE CHOICE PARTNERS, UH, CONTRACT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM FOUR, UH, AWARD, A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION TO, UH, NOVICE, A WOOD GROUP FOR WOOD GRINDING SERVICES AT THE UNIT RATE OF $2 AND 31 CENTS PER CUBIC YARD, AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $120,000 AS BUDGETED.

ITEM FIVE FIVE IS ACCEPT A GRANT FROM, UH, INSURANCE COUNSEL OF TEXAS FOR 50 SMOKE DETECTORS VALUED AT APPROXIMATELY $750.

ITEM SIX, APPROVE, UH, ISSUING, UH, TASK ORDER NUMBER 0 0 1 TO D-C-M-C-L-L-C FOR, UH, CONTINUED DISASTER CONSULTING AND GRANT ADMINISTRATION AS ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE BURL, UM, IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 250 TH $250,813.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH, UH, PARA, UH, COMP AND COMPANY, UH, FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE REHABILITATION OF ASPHALT PAYMENT IN SLEEPY HOLLOW AREA, UH, WILLENBERG STREET AND BALAM STREET FOR $310,900 AS BUDGETED.

AND THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO IS THERE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN AS PRESENTED.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SETH AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SHANYA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

OKAY.

WE'LL

[1. Discuss and consider the Traffic Commission's recommendation to shorten the school zone on Willow Drive by moving it from Buttercup Street to the northbound lane of Pansy Path and installing a school zone ahead sign. – Riazul Mia]

MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OUR TRAFFIC COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO SHORTEN THE, UH, SCHOOL ZONE ON WHEEL DRIVE BY MOVING IT FROM BUTTERCUP STREET TO THE NORTHBOUND LANE OF PANSY PATH AND INSTALLING A SCHOOL ZONE AHEAD.

SIGN.

MR. MIA? UH, MR. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, FROM THE SCHOOL HERE, UH, TRAFFIC COMMISSION MET AND THEY, AFTER DOING THE PRESENTATION, UH, TRAFFIC COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT, UH, THE SCHOOL SIGN TO AND PATH.

YEAH.

UH, SO I MEAN, SO HE'S HERE.

I THINK IF COUNSEL HAS ANY QUESTION.

ALRIGHT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING OR TO THE CONVERSATION? NO.

LEMME HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I DO.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW THERE WAS LIKE A, THERE WERE MULTIPLE PIECES TO THIS WITH THE CROSSWALK.

MM-HMM.

THE LENGTH OF THE, UM, ACTUAL SCHOOL ZONE AND THEN RE GETTING THE CROSSWALK REPAINTED, WHICH I THINK ALL OF THAT STUFF HAS ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED UP TO THIS POINT.

I WOULD STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND HAVING WATCHED THAT A WHOLE LOT IF POSSIBLE, OF EITHER WILLOW OR BCS TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO CONTINUE PAINTING THAT CROSSWALK UP TO THE SIDEWALK AND UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT CONCRETE THE WAY THE STREET IS.

AND IT'S, IT'S A WEIRD GRAVELLY SUBSTANCE.

I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT FOR SOMEBODY.

UM, JUST BECAUSE THAT IS STILL A PARKING LOT AND I STILL SEE PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY.

THEY STILL PARK IN THAT AREA.

AND JUST TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, CROSSWALK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SIDEWALK POSSIBLE, I THINK THAT WOULD KIND OF BE THE TRIFECTA OF IMPROVING.

SO THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY? IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

I THINK THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE OUR PAINTING.

OH, YES MA'AM.

IT'S LIKE A CAR WIDTH STRIP OF, AND IT TRAVELS THE WHOLE LENGTH OF YEAH.

THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

PARALLEL TO WILLOW DRIVE.

IN FACT, IT'S JUST LIKE CONTINUOUS.

IT'S

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NOT, YEAH.

THERE'S NO GRASS TURN AROUND OR NOTHING.

YEP.

DID, DID TRAFFIC COMMISSION TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS STREET? WELL, THERE, DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK TO THAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU CAN SCOOT DOWN.

OKAY.

SCOOT DOWN TO WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THE, TAKING IT AWAY.

OH, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK YOU'RE SAYING? NO SIDEWALK HERE.

AND EVERY, ALL THE KIDS HAVE TO CROSS THAT STREET TO GET ON THE SIDEWALK.

SEE IF YOU'RE ON ROSES OR IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW, THESE STREETS, IT'S BUTTER.

YOU HAVE A CORNER ON THERE.

IT'S BUTTERCUP.

IF YOU GO DOWN TO BUTTERCUP, ANY KID GOING TO LJI OR EVEN THE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL HAS TO CROSS THE STREET AND TO TAKE THE SIDEWALK, OTHERWISE THEY'RE WALKING IN THE GRASS.

YES, THEY DID.

AND WE, WE RECOMMEND AND TRAFFIC COMMISSION AGREE THAT SIGN WHERE THE SCHOOL SIGN IS, WE'RE STILL GONNA PUT A SIGN, SAY CHILDREN CROSSING OR A SCHOOL AHEAD, SO THAT IF ANYBODY WALKS THERE WILL BE A SIGN THERE.

IT'S JUST THE SCHOOL ZONE IS THE ONE WHICH YOU SLOW DOWN TO 20 MILES, THAT'S THE ONE GONNA BE MOVED.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT IS A LONG YES.

I DIDN'T, I DRIVE THAT ROAD LIKE A, A LOT AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT LONG.

I ALWAYS, I ONLY EVER REALLY SEE IT COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

AND I, AND I DO NOTICE THAT THE KIDS ALL CROSS, WELL, THE ONES I SEE RIGHT HERE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL COME HERE, STOP.

RIGHT.

HE'S USUALLY SITTING RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN WALKS HIM ACROSS.

UH, I SEE.

I SEE HIM COMING FROM THE NORTH DOWN AND FROM SOUTH UP AND THEN THEY CROSS OVER.

UM, EXCEPT THE LGI COULD DON'T KIND DO THAT.

YEAH.

THEY'LL GO DOWN WHAT? KEEP GOING DOWN WILLOW TO GET TO OCD SIDEWALK? NO, NOT IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE SCHOOL ZONE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

DID Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT? AND DID YOU SEE IF THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO LJI THAT NEED THAT? BECAUSE YOU, I THINK THERE'S NO SCHOOL ZONE.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CROSS.

I THINK THE CHIEF CAN MAYBE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.

I THINK HE HAD SOME OBSERVATIONS DONE.

SURE.

OKAY.

AND, AND IN THE, UH, RESEARCH FOR THIS MOVE, OF COURSE THE SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS THAT HAVE FLASH AND, UH, THEY'RE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL.

WHAT WE FOUND HERE AS A REMEDY IS IT'S SO FAR AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL.

AFTER A WHILE, YOU, YOU JUST DON'T REALIZE THERE IS A SCHOOL THERE.

UM, AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE CROSSING HERE IN THE SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE, UH, IT'LL STILL BE STRIPED.

AND, AND IF YOU'LL GO BACK HERE TO WHERE WE ARE, IT, IT'LL STILL BE STRIPED AND MARKED WITH A, WITH A STATIONARY SIGN, NOT A SCHOOL ZONE SIGN.

AND WE LOOKED AROUND OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, LIKE AROUND BOYLE AND DOWN SYCAMORE, WHERE THIS VERY SAME SITUATION EXISTS.

IT'S NOT TRULY WITHIN THE SCHOOL ZONE.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S A CROSSING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LEADS YOU TO A SIDEWALK, UH, THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CROSSING GUARD.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A FLASHING SIGN.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE SCHOOL ZONE, BUT THERE ARE SOME SAFETY MEASURES.

UH, SO IT, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OTHER PLACES IN TOWN.

CHIEF ON THE SPEED SOFTWARE, WERE WE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING? THERE WAS NOTHING REMARKABLE IN THE SPEEDS AS FAR AS THAT, UH, THEY WERE WITHIN, UH, WHERE YOU'D WANT 'EM TO BE.

OKAY.

UH, HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE FUMBLING AROUND AND THAT IT, IT WAS NEW TO ME.

SO USING THAT NEW, UH, SOFTWARE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PRINT OUT A CHART, NOT JUST THE, FOR ALL THE SPEEDS, NOT JUST FOR THE SPECIFIC SCHOOL ZONE, BUT YOU COULD GO IN THERE AND LOOK AND PICK THOSE OUT.

AND THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY REMARKABLE IN REGARDS TO, TO SPEED.

SO SIMILAR SITUATION EXISTS ON BEFORE THE CHURCH, THAT THAT SCHOOL ZONE SIGN FLASHES ALL DAY LONG.

WAY BEFORE SCHOOL SCHOOLS.

SCHOOL ZONE.

SCHOOL ZONE.

YES SIR.

YOU HAVE TO MOVE THAT AS WELL.

AND, AND THE SAME THING IN PLACES THAT YOU MAY HAVE PEDESTRIANS.

'CAUSE WE LOOK AT THAT AS A SCHOOL CROSSING.

AND WE, IN OUR MIND, WE THINK SCHOOL KIDS AND CROSSING, WELL, PEOPLE WALK IN THIS TOWN ALL THE TIME THROUGH DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY CROSS AT SITUATIONS JUST LIKE THIS.

IT'S, IT'S FOR EVERYONE TO CROSS THE STREET SAFELY.

UH, IF YOU ENCOMPASS THE WHOLE CITY IN A SCHOOL ZONE, IT WOULD BE INEFFECTIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SCHOOL NEAR THE ZONE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THAT'S WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST IMPACT, IS WHEN YOU GET CLOSE, YOU SEE THAT SIGN, YOU START LOOKING FOR THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SLOW DOWN 'CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

YEAH.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER TO SEE IF THERE'S GET SOME OR UH, SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.

OR YOU MAY KNOW OF WHAT IS, IF THERE'S A STANDARD OF HOW FAR A SCHOOL ZONE EXTENDS ON EACH SIDE, YOU KNOW, COMING AND GOING IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED FEET THOUSAND FEET OR WHATEVER, AND THEN STANDARDIZE THAT, UH, OVER TIME IT WOULD MAKE MAKING THOSE

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DECISIONS A LOT EASIER.

AND I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I DO KNOW IN MORE RURAL AREAS, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THE SCHOOL IS ON ANGLETON'S.

GOOD EXAMPLE.

THE HIGH SCHOOL'S RIGHT THERE BY, UH, AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IN FORT BEND COUNTY WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS, IT'S A HIGHWAY.

RIGHT.

SO THE SCHOOL ZONE IS A LITTLE LONGER AND THE YEAH.

IT DEPENDS ON, I WOULD THINK IT'LL BE SPEED RELATED.

YEAH.

AND STUFF LOOK CONCERNED ABOUT NO SIDEWALKS ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE HAVING TO COME ALL THE WAY UP HERE, CROSS GOING TO INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL, AND THERE'LL BE NO PROTECTION FOR THEM.

BUT SCHOOLS DON'T, WOULD NO LONGER BE INFECTED THERE.

SO YOU, YOU HAVE 30 MILE AN HOUR SCHOOLS SPEED LIMIT AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE KIDS THAT USUALLY CROSSING TO GO TO SJIS FROM PANY PATH AND ALL THAT AREA THERE.

SO, I MEAN, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERN IS.

IF THERE WAS SIDEWALKS ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, THEY GO ALL THE WAY UP TO OCD AND THEN CROSS OVER.

BUT I THINK PART OF THE, THE CONCERN OF THE WHOLE THING IS THE SCHOOL'S KNOWN AS SO LONG THAT IT'S BECOMING INEFFECTIVE.

PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT REALIZING IT'S A SCHOOL.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH.

THAT WHOLE WAY.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S ALSO FIVE ENTRANCES INTO THE SCHOOL ZONE WITHOUT THERE BEING ANY NOTIFICATION TO YOU GETTING INTO IT THAT IT IS A SCHOOL ZONE.

YEAH.

I MEAN YOU WOULD ALMOST, WITH IT BEING THAT LONG, IT, YOU'D ALMOST, AFTER EACH ENTRANCE IN ONTO THE STREETS, YOU NEED A SIGN THAT SAYS THIS IS, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FLASHING SIGN, BUT NEEDS TO BE SAVED THE SCHOOL ZONE, CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME.

SO IT IS UNIQUE.

PERHAPS MAYBE A SCHOOL ZONE SIGN SHOULD STAY WHERE IT IS AND NOT FLASH ALL DAY LONG AND HAVE ANOTHER SIGN CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL.

IT DOESN'T FLASH ALL DAY LONG.

IT'S SPLIT.

IT'S SPLIT.

YEAH.

HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE 'EM GOING ALL DAY LONG.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

NO, IT, IT DOESN'T.

IT'S SPLIT.

BUT THIS ONE THAT SHERRY'S TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT MAY BE JUST A, A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT.

I MEAN, CAN YOU JUST HAVE, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT DOWN FOR THAT AREA, THAT SMALL AREA.

'CAUSE THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE THE QUOTE REQUEST FROM EVERYBODY TO, TO DO THAT ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN.

UH, BUT WE HAVE ONE ON OR CREEK DRIVE, UH, THAT AT UH, JASMINE AREA THERE, THAT THERE'S A CROSSING GARDEN.

WE HAVE A CROSSING GARDEN.

RIGHT.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE A SITUATION THERE.

THERE'S NO SCHOOL THERE.

RIGHT.

BUT WE ARE, WE GOT ONE, GOT ONE ON Y POND IN CYPRESS RIGHT DOWN BELOW THE OLD FITNESS IN THE TWO.

I'VE NEVER KID CRO.

SAME SITUATION THERE TOO.

SO WE HAVE GONE IN THE PAST YEAH.

HAVE SITUATIONS THAT, UH, CRO YEAH.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER IN CONTRAST TO THAT, THOSE, THOSE ROADS ARE MULTI-LANE AND DIVIDED.

YES, SIR.

RIGHT.

UH, THIS SITUATION, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SEEM THAT THIS SITUATION EXISTS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

RIGHT.

ON A SINGLE ROAD.

RIGHT.

SINGLE ROAD.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, UH, FOUR LANE ROAD WITH THE DIVIDED.

YEP.

SO, ALRIGHT, WELL I, I, I'M OKAY WITH MAKING THE CHANGE AND THEN JUST OBSERVE THIS, THIS CROSSING AND SEE IF WE HAVE A CH AN ISSUE THERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE STACKING UP OR WHATEVER, SEE IF THERE'S CONCERNS COME FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE WASN'T ANY CONCERNS VOICED AT THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, ABOUT IT.

SO, SO IS THERE SOME SORT OF LIKE, DOES THIS CITY HERE, LIKE WHAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S, IS THIS, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE AN EASEMENT HERE THAT WE MIGHT MAKE THAT WIDER? IS THAT JUST PEOPLE'S PROPERTY THAT THEY NEVER PUT SIDEWALKS IN OR IT WAS, UM, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN AND THEY, WHAT IS THAT CALLED? WHEN YOU SHOOT, YOU CHARGE THE HOMEOWNER FOR PUTTING IT IN AS AN ASSESSMENT.

ASSESSMENT AND IT'S, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.

THEY'D RATHER CROSS OVER AND WALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING BY THEIR YARD STUFF BY THEIR YARDS.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT GOT BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED FOR AT LENGTH IN THE TRAFFIC.

AND I THINK THEY EVEN MADE A MOTION, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO MOVE THE BLINKING LIGHT AND THEN THEY AMENDED IT TO ALSO ADD A SCHOOL ZONE COMING SIGN OR WHERE THE CURRENT FLASHING LIGHT IS SO THAT THERE IS STILL WARNING, WARNING THAT SCHOOL ZONE AHEAD TRAFFIC.

YEAH.

YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL AROUND THIS INTERSECTION TOO, FOR SIMILAR REASONS.

SO, UH, LET'S SEE.

THIS IS, THIS IS, IS THIS BUTTERCUP SO THAT THE SIGN IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE OVER HERE.

WHERE'S THE SIGN? IT'S WHERE THAT SHADOW IS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THERE.

SO WE COULD, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS WE, WE COULD DO THAT IS REMOVE THAT SIGN, MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE, AND THEN PUT A SIGN HERE THAT SAYS,

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UH, SCHOOL CROSSING AHEAD OR WHATEVER SCHOOL ZONE AHEAD, WATCH FOR KIDS OR WHATEVER.

AND JUST TRY THAT.

ALRIGHT.

BACK IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

GO BACK TO THE, I ASSUME, YEAH.

I MADE A MISTAKEN ASSUMPTION THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE SIGN WAS BY THE, THE CROSSING.

BUT IT'S EVEN FARTHER SOUTH.

NO, IT'S FINE.

SO WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? RHE? SO THIS, TO MOVE IT TO WHERE? TO PANSY PAD PANSY WAY UP NORTH.

YEAH.

WAY UP HERE BY THE SCHOOL WHERE THE SCHOOL IS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY CAN GET BETTER RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

THE THIS SIDE IS REAL CLOSE.

SO THAT WAY IT'LL BE RIGHT JUST RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AS A COMPROMISE.

WOULD IT, IS IT, COULD YOU MOVE IT RIGHT BY THE, THE CROSSING RIGHT THERE AT PANY PATH? I MEAN NOT AT PANY PATH, BUT AT BUTTERCUP.

WOULD THAT BE WELL THAT'S WHERE IT'S, I MEAN THAT'S NOT MUCH, I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH.

YOU'RE GONNA MOVE IT, YOU'RE GONNA MOVE IT A HUNDRED FEET.

IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE A, A DIFFERENCE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT IS, THAT IS A LONG YEAH.

MM-HMM.

AND I, THIS IS ANECDOTAL.

I, I'M, I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I SIT OUT THERE EVERY MORNING WATCHING AND HELPING KIDS CROSS AND HUMAN NATURE IS TO GO SLOW AS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME AS POSSIBLE.

BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE SCHOOL, THEY'VE FORGOTTEN THAT THEY'RE IN A SCHOOL ZONE.

IT'S RIGHT.

AND IF THEY CAME OFF CLOVER OR ROSE, THEY WOULD NEVER KNOW UNLESS THEY RIGHT.

YEAH.

UNLESS YOU PUT A BUNCH MORE SIGNS IN IT HAPPEN TO KNOW, LIVED THERE, WOULD THEY PANY PASS SERVES THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AS AS BUTTERCUP MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

WHERE THAT CROSSING IS.

I MEAN, THAT CROSSING COULD BE A PAN.

I MEAN THAT CROSSING COULD BE A PANY PATH.

YOU COULD TAKE AWAY THE CROSSING.

YEAH.

BUT STILL DOESN'T ADDRESSES IT SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHICH CROSSING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE AT BUTTERCUP THAT THE ONE AT THE ONE THAT CHERRY BROUGHT.

IT DOES NOT, THAT CROSSING DOESN'T HAVE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE GOOD TAKING AWAY.

'CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T USE IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE YEAH.

AND THESE STREETS DON'T CONNECT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I MEAN YOU'D HAVE TO GO.

THEY DON'T CONNECT TO, THEY DON'T UHUH.

NO.

BUTTERCUP THINK OF I THINK YEAH.

I MEAN IT'S GO BACK.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO FOR YEAH.

CONNECT.

YOU HAVE TO GO TO YEAH.

SO YOU GOT, I MEAN, DOES PANY PATH DOES CONNECT? YEAH, IT DOES CONNECT.

WELL, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO WALK BACKWARDS.

I FARTHER BUT YOU'D HAVE TO WALK BACKWARDS.

YEAH.

THAT WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT.

NO.

IT'S NOT THE SHORTEST DISTANCE.

NO.

YEP.

SO AGAIN, I, I THINK MOVING THE SIGNS AS REQUESTED IS, IS GOOD.

AND I THINK WHERE THE SIGN CURRENTLY IS IS CONVERT THAT TO A SIGN THAT SAYS, UH, SCHOOL CROSSING AHEAD.

WATCH FOR CHILDREN.

ERIC, DO WE HAVE EXTRA SCHOOL SIGNS NOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN DOWN OVER BY NAY? HAVE WE REMOVED HIM? WE HAVE.

SO WE CAN INSTALL ONE HERE.

AND IT'S SOLAR.

YES.

THE, THE FLASHING SIGNS.

YEAH, THE FLASHING SIGNS.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK.

AND NAY.

I THOUGHT WE KEPT THAT ONE MAGNOLIA ON YOUR POND CORNER THERE.

THAT USED TO BE DO NOT ENTER.

THE SIGN IS GONE.

SO YELLOW LIGHTS ARE FLASHING WITH NOTHING IN BETWEEN.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXTRA, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO PURCHASE ONE, CORRECT? NO, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE MOVING THIS ONE.

NO, WHAT I WAS THINKING IF WE HAD AN EXTRA ONE, WE COULD INSTALL THE EXTRA ONE AND NOT, AND BAG, BAG THIS, THIS ONE FOR AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

UH, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH.

SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WE ARE TELLING PUBLIC WORKS.

COULD YOU PUT IT BACK? OKAY, WE CAN CHECK ON THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THE MECHANICS OF IT.

YOU, YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF OFFLINE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS, IS TO MOVE, UH, THE FLASHING SIGN INTO, UH, JUST I GUESS NORTH OR WHATEVER IT IS, A PANSY BETWEEN PANSY AND, UH, THE SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE REQUEST.

AND SO THERE, ANY, ANY MANY MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.

SECOND, I MEAN FIRST BY COUNCILMAN LES.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SETH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO THIS ONE SAYS THAT ALL THE ADDITIONAL SIGNS, SO WE INCLUDE THAT SIGN AS WELL.

YEAH.

THE ADDITIONAL SIGN AT, UH, WHERE THE ONE IS AT NOW? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE REALLY SHORT, BUT I THINK THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE, MAKE THE MOVES.

MAKE THE MOVES.

OKAY.

SINCE IT'S SHORTENING IT AND NOT MAKING A NEW ONE.

SO THIS IS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE APPROVING MAKING THE MOVES AND GOING FORWARD AND THEN YOU'LL BRING US AN ORDINANCE AND WE'LL HAVE TO PROVE THE ORDINANCE.

YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ECKER.

WILL YOU MAKE SURE AND KIND OF PUSH THAT ALONG ABOUT FINISHING THE PAINTING? YES, WE WILL.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THE PASTOR AT WILLOW.

SINCE IT IS THEIR PROPERTY, TECHNICALLY WE'LL HAVE TO CLEAN UP THAT LOOSE GRAVEL WITH THINK HE HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A COMPANY WE CAN USE.

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE

[2. Discuss and consider the first reading of Ordinance No. 2292, amending Chapter 10, Animals of the Lake Jackson Code of Ordinances, preventing cats from running at large. – Sherri Russell]

ON TO ITEM TWO.

DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 2 9 2, UH, AMENDING CHAPTER 10, ANIMALS OF THE LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCE ORDINANCES PREVENTING CATS FROM RUNNING AT LARGE.

MS. RUSSELL.

OKAY.

I WENT BACK THROUGH THE ORDINANCE TO FIND ANY OTHER PLACE YOU MIGHT NEED TO INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE CATS.

AND I FOUND IT IN THE PICK UP YOUR POOP.

WE'LL PICK UP THE ANIMAL'S POOP ORDINANCE.

SO NOW YOU HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR CAT AS WELL AS YOUR DOG.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THAT WAS A PROBLEM.

YEAH.

SOME PEOPLE KNOW.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THIS WILL LET HUMANE PICK UP NOT JUST NUISANCES CATS OR, BUT ALSO, UH, STRAY CATS.

ANY CAT THAT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM.

SO, AND I MEAN, INCLUDING, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A DOMESTIC CAT WITH A COLLAR AND IT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM, THEY, THEY'LL PICK IT UP.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PICKING UP AND CAT POOP.

UM, SO A DOG YOU HAVE ON LEASH, SO YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WALKING WITH YOUR DOG, THE CAT DOG POOP TO PICK IT UP.

SO CAT IS ROAMING FREE.

SO I MEAN, YEAH.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I, I THINK THAT IT'S THE SAME AS THE NEIGHBORS KNOWING WHO'S SCRATCHING THEIR CAR.

THEY KNOW WHO'S POOPING IN THEIR FLOWER BED.

AND I MEAN, IF WE DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

BUT IF, BUT IF YOU'RE TOLD THAT YOU'RE TOLD YOU NEED TO GO CLEAN THIS UP, YOU'RE CAT, CAT BEEN MY DEPARTMENT HAVE CHASE DOWN CAT POOPING.

WE WON'T BE DOING DNA TESTING AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

.

BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY THE CAT.

YEAH.

YEP.

WE'LL BE FORWARD FOR NEXT TIME.

SET UP A LABORATORY TO DNA TESTING.

NEXT BUDGET.

YES.

WE HAVEN'T BUILT THE, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY YET.

YES SIR.

I CAN PUT A-D-D-N-A PUT THAT LAB IN THERE.

OKAY.

HAVE WE DISCUSSED THIS ENOUGH? I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS.

UH, YOU WANT ME TO READ THE OR ORDINANCE? OH, YES, PLEASE, SIR.

SORRY.

THIS IS ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 10 ANIMALS OF THE CITY OF LEE JACKSON.

CODE OF ORDINANCES TO PROHIBIT CATS FROM RUNNING AT LARGE AND REQUIRING OWNERS TO REMOVE CAT WASTE.

PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES ARE PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH SHALL BE REPEALED TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONFLICT, ONLY PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY AND PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE.

FIRST READING.

ALRIGHT, SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER THE FIRST READING ORDINANCE OF 2 2 9 2 AMENDING CHAPTER 10, THE ANIMALS OF LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES PREVENTING CATS FROM RUNNING AT LARGE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROADUS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

FIRST READING'S APPROVED.

LET'S BE BACK AT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

[3. Discuss and consider the Fire Marshal fee schedule. – Will Ammons]

ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

DISCUSSING CONSIDERED FIRE MARSHAL'S FEE SCHEDULE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

EVENING.

UH, SO COMING OUTTA THE, THE BUDGET HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING WITH COUNSEL, WE TOOK THAT CHARGE TO LOOK AT OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

UH, I SAT DOWN WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND THIS IS WHAT WE COME UP WITH.

UH, THE, FOR THE ABOVE GROUND FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADDING A $200 PLAN REVIEW FEE AS WELL AS A $200 BASE FEE.

AND INCREASING OUR POT, OUR COST PER SPRINKLER HEAD FROM 50 CENTS TO $1, AND THEN ADDING A $150 HYDROSTATIC TEST FEE.

AND THEN ON OUR STANDPIPES, WHICH WE, WE DON'T HAVE A TOO MANY OF THEM, IT WOULD BE $150 PER SYSTEM.

THEN MOVING OVER TO OUR FIRE ALARMS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADDING A $200 PLAN REVIEW FEE AS WELL AS A $200 BASE FEE.

AND WE'RE LEAVING ALL THE OTHER FEES FOR FIRE ALARMS THE SAME, WE'VE BEEN AT $5 AND WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE STAY THERE.

SO FOR WHEN YOU SAY BASE FEE, WHAT IS THAT? IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A FEE THAT IS, IT'S JUST A FLAT FEE THAT IS ATTACHED TO IT.

SO IF WE DON'T MEET A A, SO IF WE'RE AT 10 SUPREME COURT HEADS, IT WILL HELP US COVER THE COST OF THE TIME FOR US TO GO OUT AND PERFORM THESE INSPECTIONS.

BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE TESTS, WHEN WE DO THE, THE, THE VISUALS ON THESE, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE GO DO, UH, PIPE SIZE VERIFICATIONS AND LOCATION VERIFICATIONS, SOMETIMES THOSE TESTS CAN, THOSE INSPECTIONS CAN TAKE US TWO TO THREE HOURS.

SO WE'RE, IT'S JUST A FEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THAT COST FOR THOSE INSPECTIONS.

ON OUR, UH, KITCHEN HOOD SYSTEMS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE GO FROM $135 TO $250.

THAT INCLUDES OUR PLAN REVIEW FEE AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED INSPECTIONS AND TESTS FOR THAT SYSTEM.

UH, WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT, IT WOULD STAY

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THE SAME AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

UH, DOUBLE PERMIT FEES.

AND OUR REINSPECT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE GO TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR REINSPECT AND THAT IS NOT FOR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY INSPECTION.

SO WHEN BUSINESS OWNER'S TRYING TO OPEN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT AND DOING AN INSPECTION AND CHARGING 'EM A HUNDRED DOLLARS SO WE CAN COME BACK.

THAT IS JUST FOR THE FIRE ALARMS AND FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS BECAUSE THOSE SYSTEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FUNCTION TESTED AND VERIFIED BY THE CONTRACTOR PRIOR TO CON SCHEDULING WITH US.

AND THAT IS, THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE FEES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT THIS TIME.

SO YOU ACTUALLY DO THE HYDROSTATIC TEST, SO WE HAVE TO WITNESS IT.

OKAY.

SO WE ARE, YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED SPECIFICALLY BY THE STATE TO, TO TOUCH THESE SYSTEMS. SO Y'ALL HAVE WITNESSED, WE WITNESSED THESE TESTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S TIME, IT'S IS WHAT YOU TRYING TO BE, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

IT'S A TWO HOUR MINIMUM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

BASE FEE, THE YEARLY FEE, OR DID JUST, SO THAT'S, THAT'S FOR EACH SET OF PLANS THAT IS SUBMITTED.

IT'S A ONE TIME FEE.

YES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, TAKE A MOTION TO ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO BE APPROVED.

THE FIRE MARSHAL FEE SCHEDULE PRESENT.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANYA.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, IT'S APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

MOTION APPROVE MR. MAYOR.

THIS FEE WILL BE ADDED TO THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE, SO WE'LL BRING TOGETHER JUST ONE ORDINANCE.

WE'LL HAVE ALL THE FEES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

[4. Discuss and set a date to hold a Financial Workshop in December 2024. – Modesto Mundo]

UH, I AM FOR DISCUSSING SET A DATE TO HOLD A FINANCIAL WORKSHOP IN DECEMBER OF 2024.

MAYOR, COUNSEL, WE DIDN'T GET A DATE THAT REALLY HAD UNANIMOUS, UH, AGREEMENT.

AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE BOND AS YOU TALKING ABOUT.

WE'LL HAVE THE FINANCIAL BUDGET PROJECTIONS SOMETIME IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY AT A LATER DATE BEFORE WE GET INTO BUDGET.

SO IT'S JUST THE BOND, THE BOND ISSUE.

UM, WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS AFTER SALLY AND I TALKED, UH, THIS AFTERNOON WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF ASKING COUNCIL, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO ON THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING DECEMBER, DECEMBER SIX, 16TH.

16TH, RATHER THAN HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY.

JUST HAVE THAT AS A WORKSHOP.

AND THEN WE WILL LOAD EITHER DECEMBER 2ND OR JAN OR THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY ON COUNCIL ITEMS AND WE'LL KEEP CLEAR NOTHING ON THE SECOND MEETING, UH, IN, ON THE 16TH EXCEPT FOR THIS WORKSHOP.

THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SPECIAL, UH, ANOTHER DATE IN THE MONTH.

AND USUALLY DECEMBERS ARE, UH, ESPECIALLY RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, OR USUALLY LIGHT ON THE AGENDA.

WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMENABLE TO THAT POSSIBILITY THAT'S FOLLOWING? YEAH.

FINE WITH ME.

AND THEN IF SO, WHAT TIME? REGULAR COUNCIL TIME.

REGULAR COUNCIL TIME? YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S GONNA BE TWO TO THREE HOURS.

I WOULD SAY TWO HOURS, UH, AT THE MOST BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY, IT'S GONNA BE A SINGLE TOPIC.

IT'S GONNA BE BOND ISSUE, REGULAR COUNCIL.

AND WE'RE GONNA REALLY, WHAT STAFF'S GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE'LL HAVE THREE POTS.

UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A 10 MILLION, UM, BOND ISSUE, 15 OR 20.

AND THEN EACH ONE WILL JUST BUILD ON EACH OTHER AND SEE IF COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE EFFECT IS OF EACH ONE AND THEN WHAT PROJECTS COULD BE PUT INTO EACH ONE.

SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE STREAMLINED.

OKAY.

COUNCIL, COUNCIL PHONE.

OKAY, THEN WE WILL DO THAT.

WE WILL, DECEMBER 16TH, WE'LL HAVE THE WORKSHOP AT SIX 30.

YOU'RE GONNA VERIFY THAT OUR CHARTER DOESN'T REQUIRE TWO MEETINGS.

IT ONLY REQUIRES ONE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YES.

WE WILL VERIFY.

WE JUST VERIFY .

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT A PLAN.

IT'S STILL A COUNSELING MEETING.

YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE ONE ITEM.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME TIME.

SO IT'S STILL A COUNSELING MEETING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE 16TH? YES.

UH, DECEMBER 16TH AT SIX 30.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'LL

[5. Staff Updates]

MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM FIVE.

YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE HAVING IT AT SIX 30, THAT MEANS WE DON'T GET US UP HERE.

SO WE'LL FEED YOU.

ARE YOU OKAY? I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR EXPENSE REPORT AND YOU TOOK THREE PEOPLE PLUS YOURSELF OUT TO DINNER AND IT WAS $26.

WHERE'D YOU GO? .

MCDONALD'S.

YOU CAN'T GO MCDONALD'S AND GET TWO PEOPLE.

I THINK HE WENT TO STRIPES TWO FOR ONE.

HOT DOG STRIPES.

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YEAH.

HOT DOG MAN, YOU CHEAP.

OKAY.

26.

ALL RIGHT.

RESPONSIBILITY.

OKAY.

HE PROBABLY SANDWICH.

YOU STILL GO TO EAT LUNCH WITH ME? ? YEAH.

MODESTO INVITES YOU TO DINNER.

TAKE, TAKE YOUR WALLET.

PASS.

PASS OR TAKE YOUR WALLET.

DO WE WANNA COME EARLIER? NO, SIX 30.

SIX 30? YEAH.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE DINNER AT AT SIX.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, AND I CAN ITEM DO IT FOR WHAT ITEM? SIX.

YEAH, NO KIDDING.

NICK.

$8 A PER SE.

GO.

OKAY.

UH, ITEM, UH, FIVE IS, UM, UPDATE FROM CITY MANAGER ON THE, UH, EDGEWATER APARTMENTS.

I'M GONNA ASK OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

YOUR POCKET'S FULL OF MONEY.

THAT'S THE DRUM ROLL.

I'M SMILING, SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.

RIGHT? ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE COULD REPORT THAT THEY HAD PAID $25,000 AND ON FRIDAY ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS CALLED, HE COMMITTED THAT HE WOULD PAY THE F THE $25,000.

AND ABOUT RIGHT AT FIVE O'CLOCK HE CAME IN AND PAID THE 25,000.

SO THEY NOW OWE THE CITY A BALANCE OF ABOUT 45,398.

AND HAVE THEY MADE ANY COMMITMENT ON THAT? THEY SAID ANOTHER 25,000 IN DECEMBER.

AND THEY KNOW THAT THE BALANCE IS DUE BEFORE JANUARY 3RD, I BELIEVE SECOND.

SECOND, JANUARY 2ND.

YEAH.

SO, AND WE DO HAVE A DEPOSIT ON HAND AS WELL OF 18,000.

SO WE'RE GETTING THERE.

CAN WE ACCESS THAT TO APPLY IT? NO.

ONLY IF, IF WE WERE TO CLOSE THE ACCOUNT OUT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

AND WE REGULARLY, WELL NOT REGULARLY, BUT ON OCCASION A RESIDENT WILL COME UP AND ASK US FOR AN UPDATE.

WE'VE HAD A FEW LAST FRIDAY, UH, GIVE THEM, AND THEN WE ALSO TELL 'EM THAT WE ARE KEEPING THIS ON THE AGENDA TO UPDATE, UM, COUNCIL, UM, AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO WATCH THE COUNCIL MEETING.

I HAVE NOT HAD ANY DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE RESIDENTS.

I WILL IF THEY MAKE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS, JUST TO LET THEM KNOW, BUT RIGHT NOW I STILL THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY.

YEAH, THEY DID MAKE A, A, A POSSIBLE QUESTION IF WE WOULD BE OPEN TO REMOVING THE SIGN AND I'M GOING TO SAY NO, NO, THAT'S AN INCENTIVE THING.

WELL, AND UH, IT'S WORKING, I'M ASSUMING STILL.

'CAUSE I MEAN DECEMBER BILL WILL COME HERE SHORTLY, SO RIGHT.

WE, AS SOON AS THEY PAY, WE APPLY IT TO THE CURRENT BILL THAT'S DUE AND THEN WE PUT THE DIFFERENCE ON THE, THE ARREARS RESIDUAL BALANCE ON THEIR ARREARS.

SO THEY HAD ABOUT $3,500 OWING.

SO 2,150 WENT, OR 21 5 WENT TOWARDS THE BALANCE, WHICH WAS CLOSE TO 70.

SO NOW THEY'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 45.

SO, AND THREE YEARS WILL BE PAID OFF.

OFF, SIR, HAVE A BID OFF IN TWO, THREE YEARS.

, WAS IT HOPE PAY OFF ON JANUARY 2ND? THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TILL JANUARY 2ND.

JANUARY 2ND.

SECOND.

SO, BUT YEAH, THE, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW TENANTS THAT ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY DO APPLY.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE COMMUNICATING TO THEIR RESIDENTS OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING AND THEN THE RE THE NEXT DAY THE RESIDENTS CALL US, TENANTS CALL TO SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

YEAH, WE'VE DISCUSSED NOTE KEEPING THE TENANTS INFORMED.

UM, ON DECEMBER WE WOULD, WE TALKED ABOUT SENDING OUT A NOTICE JUST TO UPDATE THE TENANTS.

YES.

OVERALL, SO, OKAY.

COMMUNICATION RECORD.

UH, THANKS JAMES.

ITEM B, ANY ACTIONS? UH, SHERRY'S GONNA BRING BACK, UH, ORDINANCE FOR THE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE CROSSING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

AND THEN WE SET THE DATE FOR, UH, OUR WORKSHOP SLASH COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 16TH.

YES.

OKAY.

[6. Construction Updates]

CONSTRUCTION UPDATES.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING FROM YOU? NO.

WHATEVER.

IT'S THAT YOU WANNA ASK ME ABOUT THE POLITICS.

ASK THOSE.

UH, THIS IS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION STUFF THAT I HAD IT WHILE I WAS AWAY.

I HAD A, UH, UH, INDIVIDUAL CONTACT ME AND I HAD SEVERAL WHO CONTACT DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT ONE OF 'EM WAS ABOUT, THEY NOTICED, THEY'VE NOTICED INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THAT WAY.

UM, THEY LIVE ON PLUM AND A LOT OF DUMP TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OH, THIS WAY, THIS WAY.

I MEAN, AND SO, UH, SAL AND FOLKS WERE LOOKING INTO WHAT THAT POSSIBLY WAS.

AND THEN USAIN COULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION FROM GAS STATION.

THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS GOING ON IN THAT VICINITY.

ONE IS THE 4 0 8, UH, THIS WAY, WHICH IS THE GAS STATION PROJECT.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE, UH, THE SPCA.

THE RECENT MOVE INTO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, TODAY, THERE WAS REALLY NO ACTIVITY, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.

RIGHT.

UH, I THINK MOST OF DELIVERY, UH, OF BIG, UH, EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN MADE TO THE GAS STATION.

ALL THE UNDERGROUND TANKS THAT ARE GONNA BE THE DETENTION

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TANKS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SITE.

UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT'S THE PRIMARY DELIVERY.

THAT'S PRIMARILY WHERE THE BIG, THE UH, BIG HALLS.

RIGHT.

BUT THERE'S GONNA BE ONGOING ONES FOR THE SPCA.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ANYTHING ELSE FOR, NO, UH, PROJECTS WERE, I MEAN THE ONE, UH, THE STREET PROJECT WAS, UH, PROGRESSING SOMEWHAT BETTER, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WEATHER WE'VE BEEN HAVING UNTIL TODAY FOR THAT, UH, THAT'S, THAT STOPPED THE, UH, THE PROGRESS.

BUT IT'S CONTINUING ON OVER AT, UH, THE NORTH CITY OAKS.

UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE UH, SANITARY SEWER, UH, PROJECT GOING ON ON THE, UH, BASIN 12 IS PROGRESSING.

UH, AND IT WAS QUITE GOING WELL.

WELL, AS FAR, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THERE WAS ONE THAT I FORGED YOU THAT SAL SENT US, UM, WAS THE SLEEPY HOLLOW FLOODGATE.

THAT VELASCO DRAINAGE COMPLETED.

AH, YES.

IT LOOKS NICE.

YEAH, IT LOOKS NICE TOO.

YEAH.

I HADN'T BEEN GONE OVER THERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT, UH, STREETS DEPARTMENT SENT AS THAT, UH, THAT PHOTO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, UH, THE, UH, OTHER PROJECTS ARE PROGRESSING.

WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A BID THAT'S GONNA BE OPENING SOON ON THE BRIDGE, UH, REPAIR JOB THAT, UH, WE PUT OUT THERE.

IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE OPENING BID SOON.

UH, THERE'S ALSO, THERE WE OPEN BEDS ON THE, UH, PAINT, UH, OF, UH, THE WATER WELLS AND OF THE, UH, AND OF THE LIFT STATIONS THAT IS UH, WHAT COLOR ARE THEY GONNA BE? SAL? EXCUSE ME.

WHAT COLOR ARE THEY GONNA BE? IT'S A VERY NICE COLOR.

FUCHSIA, FUCHSIA.

IT'S NOT, WE'LL SEND YOU THE COLOR.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE COLOR.

IT IS A VERY SUB GOOD COLOR.

VERY NICE.

IS THAT THE COLOR WE SAW AT THE WILDERNESS? ONE THREE.

I, I DO HAVE A CITIZEN THAT ASKED ME THAT COMPLETELY ON A I OF CLOSE, UH, IS THAT INDIAN WARRIOR? THAT ONE RIGHT THERE? OH YES.

IT'S A VERY NON-DESCRIPT COLOR.

I THINK SOME OF OUR, SOME OF OUR STATIONS HAVE BEEN PUMPED PAINTED BY WHATEVER CAN OF PAINT WE HAD IN THE TRUCK.

IT WOULDN'T BE ALL THE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM ALL ONE COLOR.

YEAH.

I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE COLOR.

I MEAN, IT, IT LOOKS NICE.

OKAY.

IT'S VERY MUTED.

BE BRIGHT.

THE OTHER, THAT'S WHY I THINK, YEAH, I THINK SHE PICKED ONE THAT WAS, I THINK ITS YOUR COLOR.

YOUR YOUR IT'S A REC CENTER.

THE REC CENTER COLOR.

ONE OF THE COLORS.

OH NO, I THINK IT IS.

YEAH, IT IS A REC CENTER.

IT'S VERY NICE.

YOU KNOW, UH, ONE THING THAT GETS IN THE WAY OF, OF DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING IN THESE CITIES NOW HAS BECOME, UH, RAINWATER RETENTION, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING EVERYBODY HAVING TO BUILD RETENTION PONDS AND TAKING UP PROPERTY AND STUFF.

AND SO WHEN I WAS AT TML, THERE WAS, UH, A LOT OF BOOTHS THAT THE, THE, THE DIRECTION THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NOW IS BECAUSE LAND IS GETTING SO EXPENSIVE IS THEY'RE PUTTING UNDERGROUND RETENTION.

SO UNDER PARKING LOTS AND STUFF IS RETENTION.

THAT'S WHAT 4 0 8 IS DOING.

FOUR 80.

I'M SORRY.

OH, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THOSE BIG PIPES AND ALL THAT PIPE, THOSE BIG PIPES ARE, THAT'S IT'S FAR RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ROOM.

THAT'S A TIGHT SPOT.

SO ANYWAY.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, ITEMS

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? UH, RHONDA? NO SIR.

NOTHING.

THANK YOU MR. HANYA.

JUST ONE ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THE CITY STAFF FOR WORKING ON YOUR BOND.

I SHOULD LUCK BETTER NOW.

THANK YOU.

HEARD A LOT ON THANK, THANK YOU MR. BU.

NO, SIR.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FESTIVAL LIGHTS GETTING KICKED OFF.

UH, THE CARNIVAL IS SHOWED UP TODAY AND, UH, AND STUFF.

AND WE'VE GOT, UH, LIGHTING OF THE TREE IS, UH, SATURDAY, FRIDAY EVENING AND UH, MAY'S TREE IS FRIDAY.

AND THEN, UH, EVERYTHING HAPPENS ON SATURDAY.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PARADE, UH, AT, UH, SEVEN O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY.

AND SO, UH, AND NO RAIN.

HOPEFULLY NO RAIN LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE, UH, GOOD WEATHER AND STUFF.

I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE COOL.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE COLD.

THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COLD.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COLD.

IT IS.

AND THEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO WARM UP AGAIN.

I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE 78 THAT DAY, WEEK.

SO ANYWAY, SO, UH, HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL AROUND, UH, TOWN AND STUFF.

AND, UH, WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.

SO SHORT ON SIX.