Dec 03, 2024 Planning Commission

ALL RIGHT, FIRST ITEM, ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT OF HOPE, FELLOWSHIP CHURCH LOCATED AT 200 LAKE ROAD.

ANY MORE CORRECTIONS MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THOSE CORRECTIONS THEN? ALL RIGHT.

UH, VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

ANYBODY'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? NOW'S THE TIME.

UH, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

CAN'T ACT ON IT.

WE CAN LISTEN.

ANYBODY THAT SPEAKS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

PUBLIC MEETING THING.

[4. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH LOCATED AT 200 LAKE ROAD.]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T SEE ANY REPRESENTATIVE ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT.

THIS IS, THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S A MATTER OF DISCUSSION FOR YOU AND WE FIND TO COME, YOU KNOW, AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO PROCEED FOR FINAL, FOR FILING.

WE CAN START WITH THE, UH, THE MAIN, UH, SITUATION IS, IS THIS, IS THAT, UH, WE REVIEWS THE SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE ORIGINAL TRACK WHEN WE REPART IN THAT ONE RECENTLY, AND THEREFORE NOW, UH, THAT TRIGGERED THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO NOW REVIEW THE SITE POST PARTITION AND, UH, WHAT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT PETITION, UH, EFFECT, HOW IT AFFECTED THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

THE, UH, THE ITEM, THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE NOTE THERE ON THAT SAT LINE IS THAT THE OPEN CHANNEL THAT USED TO CROSS INTO THE OTHER TRACK, NOW ANOTHER TRACK HAS BEEN REPOSITIONED BACK INTO THE, UH, INTO THE SITE, UH, ITSELF.

SO, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PUT IN THAT, UH, RELOCATING THAT DRAINAGE FOR THEIR PURPOSE AND DUMPING INTO THE, UH, INTO THE LAKE OR INTO THE ALASKA DRAINAGE DISTRICT TO MAINTAINED, UH, DITCH THEM.

SO, UH, THE ALASKA RANGE DISTRICT WILL BE THE ONE THAT WILL BE MAKING THOSE, UH, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO GO IN THERE WITH, UH, WITH THE REQUIRED TYPE OF, UH, OUTFALL INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND THE ALASKA HAS, HAS THE LAST SAY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT VE ALASKA, I THINK THEY BROUGHT, THEY GAVE US A TENTATIVE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION.

I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE, NOT NECESSARILY I, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UH, SO, UH, IN THAT CASE, THAT WAS A PRIMARY CHANGE TO THE SITE.

EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS FOR THE TIME BEING.

SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THEY WOULD COME OUT WITH REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.

THEY DIDN'T WISH TO MAKE THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT, UH, SHORT AND SWEET.

SO, UH, THE, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGE THAT YOU, THAT YOU, THAT YOU BE, THAT YOU'LL BE, ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THAT SIDE PLAN.

SO, UH, UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS, WE ARE, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT YOU CONSIDER GIVING IT YOUR APPROVAL FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, APPROVAL ON THAT.

A SWALE ISN'T A DITCH, ISN'T IT? A RISE OR THE SOIL IS A VERY SMALL DEPRESSION.

DEPRESSION, OKAY.

I HAD JUST THE OTHER, SO, MM-HMM? .

ANYTHING? NO THANK YOU.

NO, NOTHING.

WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT OF HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH, LOCATED AT 200 LAKE ROAD.

WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE SECOND.

TO BE INSPECTED BY A LICENSED IRRIGATOR AND NEW DRIP IRRIGATION PROVIDED FOR THE SCREENING OR HEDGES, WHAT, WHY WOULD WE APPROVE SOMETHING IF IT'S NOT GONNA SURVIVE THE EXTRA ROUTE IF THEY DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION EVEN UP TO DATE.

[5. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH LOCATED AT 200 LAKE ROAD.]

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ALRIGHT.

NEXT ITEM.

THE SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT.

I'LL, UH, LET MY ABLE ASSISTANT HERE BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN IN PRETTY MUCH INVOLVED THAT PARTICULAR, UH, REVIEW.

SO THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, AND THEN AGAIN IN 2006.

AND WE HAVE THOSE OLD VERSIONS OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT LOOKED AT, LOOKED AT THE PLAN, AND IT DID A CALCULATION BASED ON THE NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH WOULD BE THAT SEVEN ACRE TRACK AS OPPOSED TO THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH AND CONFIRMED THEIR OPEN SPACE, AND THEN OUR COUNTY, EACH OF THE TREES ON THE SITE, WE'RE STILL WORKING TO GET A MORE UPTODATE VERSION OF THE PLAN THAN THIS.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE EACH OF THE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING THAT THEY WANNA KEEP AS EXISTING ON THE SITE.

THEY'RE PROPOSING A MORE SCREENING TREES THAT ARE HERE ON THE RIGHT, BUT BASICALLY JUST CONFIRMING THAT YOUR PATIENT SYSTEM WORKS AND COMBINE WITH THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT.

THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO, WE DON'T HAVE COMPLETE DIRECTION TO THEM ON YET, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A FIRM OR SCREENING AT THIS CORNER HERE, WHICH IS NOT EXISTING.

IT'S FIRMED UP A LITTLE BIT BY THE SIGN AT THE OF THE CHURCH, BUT IT'S NOT THE FULL THREE FOOT HIGH FIRM.

WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE FINAL PLAN, THEY MAY ASK FOR AN ALTERNATE FOR THAT.

UM, I GUESS IT'S MAYBE SOME DIRECTIONS YOU WOULD BE APPRECIATED FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AS HE WAS LOOKING AT THAT SCREEN DIED.

YEAH, THE, HE'S THINKING THE SCREENING WOULD DIE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL RIGHT NOW, SOMETIME AFTER THE DROUGHT LAST SUMMER, THE PLANTS OUT IN THE FRONT JUST REALLY AREN'T DOING THE BEST.

THEY AREN'T THE HEALTHIEST.

SO HE'S HOPING TO SAVE THE TREES THAT ARE DOING THE BEST AND DOES NOT RECOMMEND MORE PLANTING THAT CLOSE TO LAKE ROAD.

IN THIS WAY.

HE PREFERS THEM CLOSE TO THE CHURCH WHERE THEY'RE MORE APT TO MAINTAIN MORE LANDSCAPING.

NONE OF THE TREES ARE IRRIGATED.

IT, IT'S CURRENTLY IRRIGATED, BUT HE'S NOT SURE IF THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS FULLY WORKING, WHICH IS WHY HE HAS THIS.

NO, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE INSPECTED.

DURING THIS PROJECT, YOU DID DO A TREE SURVEY AS WELL, UM, AND WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT EACH OF THE TREES ON THE SITE AND STATED THEIR CONDITION, WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD OR FAIR.

UM, THERE IS ONE TREE THAT WILL BE REMOVED RIGHT HERE FOR THE, UM, NEW DRAINAGE DITCH, AS WELL AS HE'S PROPOSING TO REMOVE TWO OTHER TREES THAT ARE NOT IN GOOD HEALTH.

AND THEN PANING THREE TREES.

SO REMOVE THREE, PLANT THREE IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED CONCERNING REVISITING.

SO ONE ITEM THAT CAME UP DURING THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO HIM NOT HAVING WORKED HERE IN THE CITY BEFORE WHETHER TO COUNT.

YOU HAVE YOUR OVERALL TREE CALCULATION.

I THINK IT'S LIKE 90, 72.

AND THEN SECTION 90 81 HAS THE SCREENING TREES FOR THE PARKING.

AND HE'S THINKING JUST HAVE YOUR OVERALL ACCOUNT FOR THE SITE AND THEN INCLUDE THE SCREENING TREES IN THAT OVERALL COUNT, WHICH WOULD BE 43 TREES, I BELIEVE.

UM, THE OTHER ARGUMENT WOULD BE THAT THEY'RE SEPARATED AND IT'S 43 TREES FOR THE SITE, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL 11 SCREENING TREES.

AND THIS HAS COME UP ON A FEW OTHER SITES AS WELL.

JUST THE LACK OF CLARITY ON THE ORDINANCE, AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD, UM, TIGHTEN UP SO THAT THERE AREN'T QUESTIONS ABOUT PRECEDENT VERSUS, AND BRING BACK TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT IT IS THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THAT PARTICULAR RULE.

THERE.

YOU CAN INTERPRET IT EITHER WAY.

SO OF COURSE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE WAYS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPOSING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SIDE ITSELF, CODE DOOR.

AND YOU KNOW, EVEN MR AND YOU SAID THE STATUS OF THE IRRIGATION IS UNKNOWN AT THE MOMENT, OR, UM, YEAH, HE HAS IT CONFIRMED THAT IF HE NEEDS IT

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THAT'S WHY HE'S, HE IS ENCOURAGING THE NEW SCREENING OR ANY OF THIS STUFF BE CLOSER TO WHERE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

UM, BASED ON FIELD, IF THE, WHERE WOULD THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM GO? I MEAN, THE SCREENING WON'T GO IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND INSTEAD OF GOING ALONG THE STREET, IT COULD BE CLOSER TO THE CHURCH OR THE FIRM OPTION AS OPPOSED TO THE SCREENING PLANTS.

I GUESS I AM IN OUR MOTION WE COULD SPECIFY WELL, THAT THE IRRIGATION IS CONFIRMED AND POSSIBLY THE BERM IS NOT REQUIRED, OR, WELL, WHETHER YOU EVEN WANT A BERM AS A REPLACEMENT, EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW IT IS IN THE BOOKS, WHETHER YOU WANT A BERM AS A OPTION OR NOT, THE BERMS IS REQUIRED TO CAUSE LIGHTING FROM, UH, THE CARS OR SUCH.

YEAH, THE INTENT WAS NOT TO THE BERM.

I NEVER HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT BERM.

IT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH.

THE, THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE A LOW COSTAGE, BASICALLY LIKE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE, ALL THE HEAVY DUTY SO FAR FROM THE CHURCH THAT I DON'T SEE IT SERVES A PURPOSE.

IT DOES SERVE A PURPOSE.

AND IN THAT PARTICULAR, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YES.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT DOESN'T SERVE THE PURPOSE IT WAS INTENDED.

WELL, AS I RECALL IT WAS FOR, IN CERTAIN INSTANCES WHEN HEADLIGHTS GOING ON THE ROADWAYS TO BLOCK THE HEADLIGHTS FROM PARKING.

THAT'S WHAT I RECALL IT BEING.

NOT JUST A, YEAH, NOT JUST A PARKING, BUT SO THAT CARS DRIVING BY WOULD NOT BE BLINDED BY PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOT TURNING ON THEIR CARS.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT LIKE RIGHT THERE THEY HAVE AT THE CO WELL, I UNDERSTAND NOT ON THIS DRAWING, THE BERMS RIGHT HERE ON THIS DRAWING.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED FOR A BERM HERE.

THERE'S NO PARKING SPOT.

YEAH, THERE'S A BERM UNDERNEATH THE SIGN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BY THE SIGN.

AND THERE'S NO PURPOSE FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING THERE.

RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS BEFORE US TOO WASN.

I DON'T RECALL THIS BEING BEFORE US, BUT 2006.

2006, YEAH, I JOINED IN 2007.

NO, I THINK THIS WAS, UH, I WAS HERE PROBABLY YEARS .

YOU WERE, YOU WERE IN THAT CHAIR.

, DID YOU REQUIRE THE BERM? I, I DON'T REMEMBER IT AT ALL.

I, I HAVE NO IDEA.

MY OPINION.

WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL.

A LOT OF TIMES THESE SHIELDS OR BERMS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, BECOME A SAFETY HAZARD FOR WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL OUT, THIS ONE'S NOT AN ISSUE.

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED IT.

LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK IS TOO FAR AWAY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THE, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT KEEPS EVERYBODY OUT AWAY, SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

BUT LIKE THE OLD KROGER, THEY GOT THOSE, THIS CLUE, BUT THEY GOT THOSE CREPE MYRTLES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND.

SO IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS SHIELDING OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

SO WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US, UH, SAL? WELL, UH, FIRST OF ALL, GIVE SOME GON ON THE SCREENING WHETHER OR NOT, UH, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD, I GUESS RECOMMEND THAT THEY PUT IT CLOSER, UH, PUT IT CLOSER TO WHERE THE ACTUAL PAYMENT LINES ARE, WHICH IS WHERE THE PARKING IS.

MY OPINION WAS WE COULD, WE COULD DO AWAY WITH ANY, SINCE IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY.

THAT'S WHERE I FEEL ON THIS, THAT NUMBER SEVEN THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OUT FOR THE SWELL.

YES, THEY'RE CALLING IT SUGAR BERRY, BUT I JUST GOOGLED IT AND THAT'S A HACKBERRY.

THEY'RE CALLING, SO IT'S A HACKBERRY.

ALL RIGHT, SO LOOKS LIKE IT.

YOU GET PLUS POINTS FOR THAT.

IT'S PART OF THE NATIVE LIST OF THE TREE LIST.

SO SURPRISED IT'S THROUGH OUT.

KELLY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T, JEFF, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NOW.

UH, NOT AT THIS TIME.

NOT AT THIS MOMENT.

ORDINANCE THAT HAS CONFUSION.

WEREN'T YOU SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE WAITING FOR HIM TO BRING YOU, YOU WERE SAYING SOMETHING IN THE BEGINNING, SO HE WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE A QUALITY REPORT OF THE TREES OR SOMETHING LIKE THESE AT WERE GANG? UM, HE DID PROVIDE THE CONDITION OF THE TREES ALREADY THERE.

THERE WAS, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE

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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROTECTED TREES AND PRESERVATION TREES.

AND THAT DEFINITION, WHEN HE FIRST WENT TO THE SITE, HE WANTED TO COUNT FIVE CALIBER PER INCH, AS IN LIKE, AS A GREENFIELD SITE.

THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED.

AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT TOO.

UM, THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, THESE TREES WERE ALREADY ON A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THEY COUNT ONE FOR ONE, NOT, UM, AS A CREDIT REQUIREMENT PER DIAMETER, BUT NOW THAT SOME OF THESE TREES ARE LARGER, I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION TOO.

IS THERE A POINT IN TIME THAT WE WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ORDINANCE COUNTING PROTECTED TREES AS A CERTAIN AGE OR A CERTAIN DIAMETER OR PRESERVATION TREES IN THAT MANNER? UM, AND RIGHT NOW, THE DIRECTION WE GAVE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WAS ONE PER ONE, ONE TREE IS REQUIRED.

IT'S ON THE EXISTING PLAN, LIKE IT SHOULD BE STILL ONE.

UM, BUT WE DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THESE DIAMETERS ARE GETTING LARGER.

THEY WERE PLANTED, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.

SO THEY'RE, SOME ARE DOING WELL, SOME IRRIGATION'S WORKING IN SOME PLACES IS SOMETHING THAT, IS THIS A PROJECT WE SHOULD REVIEW AND NOT NECESSARILY TIE IT TO THIS? YEAH, NOT IT'S JUST, IT'S COME UP A FEW TIMES.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER SITE WHERE BOTH OF THOSE CAME UP BY THE ENCY ARCHITECT QUESTIONING, WANTED CLARITY, AND IT'S STARTING TO BECOME MORE COMMON IN ALL THESE, UH, SITES THAT ARE RE UH, VISITED OR REMODELED OR SOMETHING HAPPENED.

AND ALL THOSE BECOMES AN, IT STARTED BECOMING AN ISSUE MORE SO THAN NOT.

SO NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO THIS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR OPINION IS FOR THE ORDINANCE.

SO FOR THE TIME BEING, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT YOU, UH, PROVIDE AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, APPROVAL ON THIS THING.

UH, AND WE'LL RUN THAT ALL THESE ITEMS THROUGH TO LANDSCAPE, UH, GIVEN SOME DIRECTION OF, OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT IT.

AND IF YOU, AND IF I'M CORRECT, YOU WOULD RATHER SEE A SCREEN, UH, SCREENING CLOSER TO THE PAVEMENT LINE INSIDE THE AREA.

AM I, AM I ASSUMING THAT, OR AM I, IF THEY DO ANYTHING, I WOULDN'T THINK THEY NEED ANYTHING BUT YOU.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR CALL.

I GOT ONE LITTLE THING IN YOUR NOTES.

UH, ONE OF YOUR STATEMENTS IS MISSING OR DEPLETED, DEPLETED PARKING LOT.

SHRUBS AND TREE SCREENING ARE BEING REPLENISHED WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

MM-HMM, , THAT'S THESE ONES OVER HERE THAT AREN'T OKAY, THAT'S NOT, YEAH.

INCLUDING THIS.

YEAH, CORRECT.

THIS FRONT PIECE.

WE'RE TALKING NOTHING IN THE FRONT.

IT'S JUST THE SCREENING HERE AND THE SCREENING HERE.

THEY'RE BEEPING IT UP WITH NEWER, GREAT MODELS.

I GUESS, SAL, MY, IN MY WORDS, THE GUIDANCE WOULD BE WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE SCREENING.

SO IF THEY NEED TO PRESENT US SOMETHING, WE'LL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY LIKE THE THING READS IN MY MIND.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT BECAUSE I'M NOT TO RELAY IT.

SO ON THE SCREENING RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A BERM.

THE BERM IS NOT THREE FOOT TALL ANYMORE.

IT'S SETTLED OVER THE YEARS.

IT'S 12 INCHES, 18 INCHES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT THE FULL THREE FOOT ANYMORE.

SO IS THAT ACCEPTABLE AS A SCREEN AS FAR AS YOU GUYS, HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL? I THINK IT IS, BUT HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL? I THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE I THINK JUST THE NATURE OF WHAT THAT IS, RIGHT? ISN'T THE PURPOSE OF OUR REQUEST FOR SCREENING IF THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT THERE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT JUST PUTTING THAT BERM ACROSS THE FRONT OF WALMART ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND SAY GOOD ENOUGH, THAT FEELS KIND OF FUNNY.

WALMART WOULD DO TOO.

UH, THEY HAVE PUT BEHIND ACADEMY OR NOW, RIGHT? THAT SHOPPING CENTER, THERE'S , THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SAFETY ISSUE ONES.

I I, THAT THAT THING IS GNARLY.

SO THE, ONE OF THE THINGS HERE THAT HELPS US IS THAT BIG PARKWAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO THIS ONE'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE IN THE WAY BECAUSE THE CARS WILL BE SO FAR OUT IN FRONT OF IT.

BUT THE BERM IS NOT SETTLED YET.

SO THIS IS FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A BERM.

UM, AND YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS SHORTER BERM IN LIEU OF A FULL-SIZED BERM OR A SCREENING THAT MAY NOT SURVIVE .

THAT'S MY OPINION.

I MEAN, YEAH.

AGAIN, ON A CASE BY CASE.

WELL, YEAH, THIS IS JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE RIGHT HERE, JUST SO I CAN GIVE HIM DIRECTION.

WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK FOR FINAL NEXT MONTH, AND WE DON'T WANNA BRING IT BACK FOR FINAL,

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SO IF I CAN GET THAT DIRECTION TO HIM, HE CAN GET IT COMPLETED AND YOU GUYS CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SIGN NEXT MONTH INSTEAD OF PUSHING IT OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YES.

UH, NEXT ITEM, FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON RELA OF THE D SUBDIVISION STAYBRIDGE SUITES FILED ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024 MORE NOW STARTS THE MIGUEL SHOW.

THE OTHER TWO ITEMS, THE, UH, PRESERVATION TREES AND THE, UH, HERITAGE TREE DOUBLE DIPPING IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT FOR THE, UH, UH, YEAH, HERITAGE TREES IS WHAT WE TRY TO KEEP TRYING TO BANG INTO THEIR HEADS, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S PRESERVATION TREES AND PROTECTED TREES.

BUT, UM, THE DOUBLE DIPPING FOR THE SCREENING CREDIT TREES, WE WANT TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE BETTER DIRECTION FROM YOU AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? SO WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

OKAY, GOOD.

SOUNDS GOOD.

BOSS.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IN ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF, UH, HOPE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH LOCATED AT 2000 A 200 LAKE ROAD, UH, WITH A REQUIREMENT OF, UH, VALIDATING THE, UH, FUNCTIONALITY OF THE IRRIGATION.

AND, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NOT REQUIRING ANY KIND OF BURN, WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

[6. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON REPLAT OF THE VIGHNESHWER SUBDIVISION (STAYBRIDGE SUITES) FILED ON DECEMBER 3, 2024.]

OH, HOW'S IT GOING? UM, THIS PLAT, I BELIEVE, WAS IN FRONT OF Y'ALL A FEW MONTHS AGO.

UH, THIS IS THE PLAT FOR THE STAYBRIDGE SUITE THAT'S NEAR THE BRAZOSPORT MALL.

UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE PAST THAT, UM, THE OWNER OF THE HOTEL HAS AN ISSUE WHERE HE HAD SOME OF HIS CLIENTS DRIVE SEMI TRUCKS AND THEY'VE BEEN USING THE MALL PARKING LOT TO PARK THE TRUCKS.

UM, HE APPROACHED US, HE WANTED US TO, UH, THIS USED TO BE TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

HE WANTED US TO COMBINE THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE WITH THE REST OF HIS HOTEL, AND WE WOULD USE THAT CORNER TO ADD MORE PARKING SPACES FOR THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FIT SEMI TRUCKS.

UM, I CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN LATER, BUT THIS IS MORE JUST A SIMPLE REPL OF JUST COMBINING TWO LOTS INTO ONE S.

ANYTHING, NO, ALEX, UH, REALLY, WHY, WHAT HE JUST SAID, UH, IT'S FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND, UH, THEY CAME IN HERE TO RELA THAT PROPERTY AND COMBINE IT INTO ONE LOT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UH, EXPANSION OF PARKING INTO THAT, UH, SACK.

EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS THE SAME AS FAR AS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS IN THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, UH, UH, FOR CERTAIN REASON FOUND TO HAVE THREE MORE, THREE MORE PARKING SPACES, I BELIEVE, AND WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN THE SITE PLAN.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.

THEY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE HOTEL SIDE ITSELF IN ADDITION TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ADDITION OF SEMI, SEMI, UH, PARKING SPACES IN MY TRAILER PARKING SPACE.

NO, NOTHING.

ALRIGHT, GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, PLEASE.

IS THIS THE ROAD GOING TO THE PUMP STATION OR LIFT STATION OR, YES.

CORRECT.

BUT THAT'S ON CITY PROPERTY OR, UH, IT, IT WAS, IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK YOU LEFT IT THERE, DIDN'T YOU? UH, CORRECT.

SO THIS IS ALL ONE PLAT OWNED BY THE HOTEL, BUT THERE ARE EASEMENTS FOR, AND SO THAT THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF BY, WITH AN EASEMENT.

I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON REPL OF THE VIN SWISHER SUBDIVISION STATE BRIDGE SUITES FILED ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.

WE HAVE MOTION? DO WE HAVE SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

I MAY YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO PRONOUNCE

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THAT .

DUNNO IF I DID IT RIGHT.

, I THINK THAT'S SO OFTEN

[7. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STAYBRIDGE SUITES LOCATED AT 981 FM 2004 FILED ON DECEMBER 3, 2024.]

JUST GO WITH IT.

SAME PROPERTY SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO, UM, THE LAST TIME WE HAD TALKED, UH, MAN, I THINK THIS IS WORKING.

UH, WE HAD THE DETENTION POND IN THE PARKING LOT FLIPPED.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT AROSE WAS IF THE DETENTION POND WAS WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS CURRENTLY SHOWN IT, IT CREATES AN ACCESS PROBLEM FOR THE LIFT STATION PEOPLE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS TINY AREA RIGHT HERE TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POND HERE WITH A SHARP, YOU KNOW, 3 0 1 DROP OFF THAT'S NOT SAFE.

UM, WHAT WE DID WAS WE FLIPPED THE PARKING LOT AND THE POND FOR THIS PARKING LOT RIGHT HERE.

WE DID NOT PUT A CURB HERE.

AND WHAT THAT SERVES AS IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND ACCESS THE LIFT STATION, THEY COULD DRIVE HERE AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY DRIVE THROUGH THIS PARKING LOT TO LEAVE.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, UM, ALL WE DID WAS ADD EIGHT SPACES FOR 18 WHEELER TRAFFIC.

UM, WE STILL MEET THE, THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN PARKING REQUIREMENT.

WE DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY.

SAL, ANYTHING ELSE? YOUR HONOR, LIKE I SAID, THEY FOUND EXTRA 12 REGULAR SPACES ON FROM THE, ON THE ORIGINAL SIDE PLAN OF THE HOTEL.

I DUNNO HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT ONE.

BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEW ACCOUNT THAT THEY CAME UP WITH, WHICH IS POSITIVE.

THE TRUCKS ENTER OVER HERE.

THEY WILL MOST LIKELY COME IN FROM FM 2 0 0 4.

AND THEY COULD EXERCISE THE OPTION WHERE THEY PULL IN STRAIGHT HERE OR THEY CAN TRAVEL DOWN THIS SHARED ACCESS ROAD AND COME UP THIS WAY.

IS IT GONNA BE WISE TO HAVE THAT TWO WAY? IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE BEST TO HAVE LIKE A DO NOT ENTER RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRY AND MAKE 'EM GO AROUND.

UM, WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

UM, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE FIXED WITH SIGNAGE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

THAT'S SIMPLE.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT THE MALL PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD PROBABLY OBJECT TO HAVING THAT OTHER ABILITY.

I MEAN, EITHER WAY THEY'RE DRIVING ON THE SAME AMOUNT OF MALL PROPERTY IF THEY'RE PULLING IN, RIGHT.

TRUE.

THAT EITHER, YES.

I MEAN, COME BACK ON.

YEAH, IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE PULLING IN HERE, THEY'RE LOOPING ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND IF THEY'RE LOOPING ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND IN, I MEAN, YOU'RE CORRECT.

SAME AMOUNT OF, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY BACKING OUT RIGHT THERE UNLESS THEY'RE JUST THAT BORED.

KILL THE MALL.

PUT SOME THOSE NOT WITHOUT TICKING OFF EVERYBODY.

THE GATES LEAVE TO GET ON 2004 FROM THE MALL, WHICH IS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH.

IT'S GONNA BE A, SEEMS LIKE ALL THE TRUCKS NEED TO BE GOING THE DIRECT DIRECTION.

I THINK THEY'RE GONNA PUT SOME DO NOT ENTER SIGNS THERE IN GENERAL.

I DON'T MEAN WITH SIGN, I MEAN JUST MAKE IT ONE WAY.

THAT'S THE SIGN .

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT WAS FILTERS IN.

YEAH, THAT'S A VERY EASY FIX.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING A DO NOT ENTER SIGN.

THERE DID A FINE JOB YOUNG MAN.

ANYTHING ELSE SIR? NO.

NO.

ANYTHING ELSE, MATT? I'M GOOD.

PRIMO.

ANY, UH, MOTIONS? I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STATE BRIDGE SUITES LOCATED AT 9 8 1 FM 2004 FILED ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN.

[8. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STAYBRIDGE SUITES LOCATED AT 981 FM 2004 FILED ON DECEMBER 3, 2024.]

OKAY, SO, UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES ON THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, WE REDID THE TREE SURVEY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I HAD TOLD Y'ALL A WHILE BACK THAT WE HAD A SURVEY CREW, UH, NOT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO? .

SO, UM, WE WENT BACK, WE REDID THE, THE TREE SURVEY.

UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SITE AND THE OLD SITE PLAN WAS 38 TREES.

UM, WHEN WE REDID THE CALCULATIONS WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE AND THE TREE REQUIREMENTS, ONLY 30 TREES,

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UM, IN THIS SITE PLAN, WE'RE STILL PROVIDING 38 TREES.

UH, WE DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY.

UM, WE DID CLEAR OUT A LOT OF THE HACKBERRY TREES AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, JUST TREES THAT HAD OVERGROWN IN THIS PARKING LOT AREA.

SUGARBERRY, SUGARBERRY, .

UM, IN TERMS OF SCREENING, WE DID ADD A SCREEN OF SHRUBS AND TREES RIGHT HERE.

WE DID STOP THE SCREENING LINE HERE SO IT WOULDN'T BLOCK ACCESS THE, BUT UM, THAT'D BE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING THE TREE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, WE'RE STICKING WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TREES WE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT.

CONCERN HERE WITH YOUR LITTLE WALL OF LIGHT BLOCKAGE, THEM BOYS TURNING OUT RIGHT THERE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE EITHER CLIPPING THAT BEAUTIFUL MEDIAN THAT THEY KEEP PUTTING THE ROSES IN OR THEM TRAILERS ARE GONNA HANG OFF AND TAKE OUT YOUR, UH, LANDSCAPING.

Y'ALL GOT RADIUS REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? TRAILERS? WE, WE COULD SOLVE THAT BY HAVING WHAT EDDIE SAID.

UM, RESTRICTING THE ENTRANCE TO ONLY TRUCK.

GOING IN THAT WAY? YES.

I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE A, THERE'S GONNA END UP BEING A A, YOU KNOW, A CORRECT UNHAPPY CONVERSATION WITH SOME LANDOWNER OF THAT GOING DOWN OR THE MALL STUFF GETTING MESSED UP, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OKAY.

BUT I MEAN THAT TO PREVENT YOUR CUSTOMER FROM HAVING TO ARGUE WITH THE WONDERFUL BRAZOSPORT MALL PROPERTY PEOPLE OR JUST BEEF UP THAT MEDIUM, PUT IN CONCRETE, DO IT .

WELL, THE CORNER ITSELF I WOULD THINK COULD BE THE PROBLEM.

WELL, THEM HAVING TO PUSH OUT TO HANG, HANG THEIR NOSE OUT ON THAT RIG FAR ENOUGH SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T DRAG A 53 FOOT REAR AXLE ON THAT TURN.

IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE SPICY THE WAY IT SITS AT THE MOMENT.

I MEAN, THAT MEDIUM'S GONNA GET HIT EITHER WAY.

ANYBODY THAT'S COMING OUT ALONG THAT LINE RIGHT THERE THAT'S DRIVEN A TRUCK, THEY'RE GONNA CLIP THAT MEDIUM WITH THEIR FRONT TIRE, IF NOT THEIR REAR AXLES ON THE RIG.

ESPECIALLY, THEY GOT A HEAVY SWING, LIKE A, LIKE A CAR HAULER, WHICH A LOT OF THOSE BOYS ARE DOING CAR HAULERS OVER THERE.

I WOULD THINK THERE'D BE A STANDARD FOR A RADIUS FOR TRUCKS TURNING THERE.

SINCE 75 FOOT, HUH? 75 FOOT? YES.

THE RADIUS IS, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YOU'RE 75 FEET.

WELL, FROM A 0.0, IT'S THE RADIUS OF THE CURVATURE.

UM, OKAY.

WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE POINT OF THE AXIS OF THE RADIUS? I MEAN, UH, THAT'D HAVE TO BE SOMEPLACE OVER IN HERE SOMEPLACE.

WELL, VERY ARBITRARY.

IT IS ARBITRARY.

UM, UH, A TRUCK IS CAPABLE OF MAKING THAT TURN.

UM, BUT WE, IF, IF YOU NEED SOME ASSURANCE, WE DO HAVE, UH, TURNING TEMPLATES THAT WE CAN OVERLAY ON THIS STUFF.

IT CAN BE PLACED ON THERE TO SHOW THAT A TRUCK CAN MAKE THAT TURN.

YOU DON'T HAVE A LITTLE COMPUTER MOUNT THAT ALL YOU CONSULTANT SIGN IN ? NO.

WE HAVE A CLEAR PIECE OF PAPER WITH A TRUCK.

OH, WELL HIS, HIS BOSS GIVES TOO MUCH MONEY TO AIN THEM TO HAVE THAT FANCY STUFF.

IT'S ACTUALLY DOUG'S, IT'S UH, IT'S DOUG'S PIECE OF PAPER.

IT SAYS CLEAR PAPER THAT HE OVERLAYS ON PLANT THE, THE FANCY CONSULTANTS.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT.

I I, THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT UP BROTHER IS 'CAUSE I, I HAVE A FEELING THE MALL'S GONNA GET B AND MING WITH YOU ON THAT MEDIA AND GETTING TORE UP.

OR NOT WITH YOU, YOUR CUSTOMER.

I KNOW WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, YOU COULD CARE LESS.

I DON'T BLAME YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, MATT? I'M GOOD TO GO BOSS HERE.

WELL, I WAS SURPRISED.

I WAS IN A, A CITY COURT CASE THERE TRYING TO PUT ME ON A JURY.

DIDN'T TAKE ME , BUT, UH, IT WAS COMING OUTTA THE MALL, UH, TOWARDS WALMART AND HE TURNED LEFT AND, UH, HE COULDN'T STAY IN THE LA NOW THIS IS THE FOUR LANES OVER AND THE GUY PROBABLY LOST HIS TRUCKING LICENSE BECAUSE HE, HE CLIPPED THE CAR OVER THERE AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO GO.

WELL THAT'S FOUR LANES OVER THIS IS TWO LANES OVER OR IS IT ONE LANE? UH, DO YOU HAVE TWO LANES GOING OUT BY THE MEDIAN OR ONE? YOU GOT TWO.

YOU GOT TWO LANES, RIGHT? TWO, BUT IT'S A LOT CLOSER.

SO STAND BY WHAT? I SAID THEY NEED A NEW SIGN ANYWAYS.

OH HELL YEAH.

THAT MEETING'S GONNA GET TORE UP.

IT'S JUST GONNA BE A REAL CHALLENGE NOT TO HAVE A, A BIGGER RADIUS HERE.

YEAH, I'M THINKING THE, UH, ONE WAY END IS GONNA BE THE, THE BEST LAB.

I'M TALKING ABOUT EXITING NOW WITH THE TRUCKS THOUGH.

I, I CAN, YEAH.

YOU DON'T SEE ISSUE WITH ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES, DO YOU? NO.

THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED.

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LANDSCAPING LOOKS AT ME? YES.

WE HAVE A MOVE.

I DO THINK THAT THE RADIUS, UH, THERE IS PRETTY NARROW.

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT MAYBE ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ON THE LANDSCAPE.

WE'RE, WE'RE PAST SITE PLANS COME AND GONE.

WE'RE IN THE LANDSCAPE SIDE OF THINGS NOW.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS SHRUBS.

THAT WAS ALL I WAS WORRIED ABOUT.

HIS SHRUBS AND THE MALL'S.

BEAUTIFUL ROSES WITH THE RAINBOW.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT ADDRESSES THE LANDSCAPE.

THING THAT'S BEFORE IS FINAL MOVE TO APPROVE FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE STATE BRIDGE SUITES LOCATED AT 9 81 FM 2004 FILED ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.

WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.

ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN OF ELITE CROSSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 1 0 6 CENTER WAY.

[9. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN OF ELITE CROSSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 106 CENTER WAY.]

OKAY, LET ME, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THIS, UH, THERE, THERE'S A COMMENT IN THERE, WHICH WAS THE PRIMARY COMMENT FOR YOUR, FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

AND THAT WAS AT THE TIME THAT, UH, AT THE TIME THAT WE REVIEWED THE PLAN THERE, YOU KNOW, I MADE A, UH, I MADE A MISTAKE AND I I WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU A A WHAT? YOU MADE A WHAT? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

STICK WITH THE FIRST ONE SO SHE CAN WRITE IT.

RIGHT.

I MADE A MISTAKE, UH, 7:06 PM .

AND WHAT I DID IS I APPLIED THE, UH, B TWO REQUIREMENTS ON PARKING ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, TRACK HERE WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE PUD THAT GOVERNS OVER THIS PARTICULAR TRACK.

RIGHT.

THE PUD CHANGED THE REQUIREMENT FROM WHAT IT IS AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WHICH, UH, ON, ON THE B TWOS, WHICH IS, UH, FIVE PER PER THOUSAND.

UH, AND, UH, THE NEW ONE REQUIRED ONE SPACE PER 1,001.

FOR RESTAURANTS, CORRECT? YEAH.

ONE TO 100, CORRECT.

ONE FOR ONE SQUARE FOOT.

THAT WAS A DUD CONDITION THAT YOU APPROVED BACK, BACK WHEN, ONCE YOU BECAME IN ONE, ONE FOR 100 SQUARE FOOT, ONE PER EVERY HUNDRED SQUARE RESTAURANT FOR RESTAURANTS.

TODAY, UH, IN TODAY'S, UH, ORDINANCE, WHAT IS IT? TODAY'S IT, UM, LET'S LOOK UP, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE 1.5 SPACES PER A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT, A RESTAURANT, 1.5 SPACES.

SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE CHANGE THAT WAS ALLOWED OR THE, UH, ALLOWANCE MADE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT ONE, OF COURSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE, UH, BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR PROPOSALS FOR 87 PARKING SPACES.

AND IN MY CALCULATIONS BACK THEN, I CAME, I WAS COMING UP WITH, UH, 180 SPACES.

THEREFORE, THE NEED FOR YOU TO CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF SPECIAL PARKING, UH, ALLOWANCE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, VARIANCE YOU WANNA CALL IT.

UH, LATER ON WHEN WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT IT AGAIN AND, UH, AND NICOLE BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION THAT, UH, WELL, THERE'S A PUD CONDITION.

PVD ALLOWS THIS THING, WHICH WOULD NOW MAKE IT 40, 63 SPACES, I BELIEVE, BASED ON THE, ON THE CONDITION.

SO THAT JUST TOTALLY DISPELS THE, THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T NEED, IT MAKES IT WITHOUT ANY, ANY PROBLEM AS FAR AS THE PARKING CAN.

SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT.

SO I'M GOOD WITH IT NOW.

AND THAT WAS THE PRIMARY ITEM.

UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, WE'LL DISCUSS THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF THIS SITE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

UM, SINCE THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA COME BACK, UH, NEXT MONTH WITH SOME CHANGES.

UM, LIKE JESSE'S HERE, HE'S, UH, THE OWNER OR THE OWNER OR DEVELOPER, OWNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SOME THINGS THAT I KNOW WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IS WE HAVE THIS GRASS AREA BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THIS DRIVE THROUGH LANE.

UH, WE ARE GONNA

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PUT A SIDEWALK THERE.

UM, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE UNDERNEATH THE 85% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT FOR THE SITE.

UM, I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD ON PARKING.

UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH SAL ON SOME OTHER CHANGES WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

MIGUEL, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? THE DRAINAGE, UH, CAN YOU DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE? YOU MENTIONED THE 85 UH PERCENT.

CORRECT.

THERE IS A, UH, MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ONSITE DETENTION FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES LIMIT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH IS 85% IMPERVIOUS.

UH, WE STAYED UNDER THAT LIMIT, UH, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN.

THERE IS A CURB INLET RIGHT HERE THAT WE WILL TIE INTO.

AND, UH, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH NICOLE, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT WHEN WE TIED INTO IT, WE DIDN'T EXCEED ANY HYDRAULIC GRADE LINES OR CAPACITY AT STORM SEWER.

SO WE'RE FINE THERE.

AND, UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF THE FEATURES THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING ON THAT SITE THERE? ? YES.

SO, UM, UH, I'LL SAVE SOME OF IT FOR THE LANDSCAPING, BUT, UM, ONE IDEA THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PATIO AREA THAT'S RIGHT HERE.

NEXT TO THE BUILDING FOR THE RESTAURANT.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TURF, UH, SYNTHETIC MATERIAL THAT'S, UH, GONNA BE HERE.

AND SO FAR WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE A, A CHEST AREA FOR NOW FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO PLAY CHESS.

UM, THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE HOTEL THAT'S BEING BUILT.

UH, WE WE'RE PLACING A SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE AND, UH, I DON'T WANT SET ANYTHING IN STONE, BUT, UH, THE HOTEL AND THIS OUR VERBAL AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS THE HOTEL TO THIS RETAIL AREA SO PEOPLE COULD WALK BETWEEN THEM WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WALKING OVER THE GRASS.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

OKAY? OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING NOW.

YOU, NO, SIR.

COULD YOU PULL UP THE GOOGLE EARTH OF THAT? I'M, I'M STILL HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING WHERE THIS IS.

YEAH, HB LITERALLY WHERE MY OLD HOUSE WAS.

AND THAT'S THE HOTEL.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOVE TO ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN OF ELITE CROSSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 1 0 6 SWAY? WE HAVE A MOTION.

NEXT ITEM IS THE SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN.

[10. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN OF ELITE CROSSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 106 CENTER WAY.]

SO FOR THIS BUILDING, WE'RE GONNA BE IN AN ELEVATION OF 14.

SO, UM, AS I STATED BEFORE, UH, RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS, UH, WE ARE AT ABOUT 83.4% IMPERVIOUS COVER BUILDING CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS DRIVES THE TURF AREA AND ABOUT 16% LANDSCAPE AREA.

SO WE ARE MEETING THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT FOR LANDSCAPE AREAS.

UM, IN THE PUD FOR THIS SPECIFIC AREA, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, POWER ALREADY HERE, SPECIFICALLY A MINIMUM OF 25 CALIPER INCHES OF TREES MUST BE PRESERVED ON THE SITE.

UM, IN THIS LANDSCAPE'S PLAN SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE PRESERVING 56 INCHES OF TREES.

AND, UM, THEY'RE THESE THREE, OH, COULD YOU, SORRY.

THERE ARE THESE THREE TREES HERE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THEY'RE THE LARGER TREES OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, TWO OF 'EM ARE AN 18 INCH AND ONE IS A 17 INCH TREE.

UH, THE REASON WHY WE STUCK WITH PRESERVING THOSE IS, UH, THE BUILDINGS, UH, PER THE CITY RULES, WE HAVE TO BE TWO FOOT ABOVE THE BACK OF CURB.

UH,

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WELL, THE NATURAL GRADE OF THE SIDE IS ABOUT 10 FEET, SO WE'RE COMING UP WITH A LOT OF DIRT TO BRING THIS BUILDING UP.

WELL, ANY TREES THAT ARE IN THAT PROXIMATE BUILDING ARE GONNA SURVIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABOVE THE CURB.

SO WE DID WORK IT ON THE GRADING PLAN.

UM, THOSE TREES ON THE PERIMETER, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DID WAS THERE'S ALMOST NO FIELD GONNA BE PUT THERE, AND I MADE SURE TO PUT LARGER LANDSCAPE AREAS AROUND AND ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD SURVIVE.

UM, FOR THESE TWO TREES SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE HAVE THIS EXISTING SIDEWALK HERE AND WE ARE COMING IN WITH NEW PAVEMENT.

IT'S GONNA CREATE KIND OF A LITTLE LOW AREA BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDING FILL THERE.

UH, WE'RE PUTTING YARD DRAINS IN THESE TWO, UM, LANDSCAPE VIOLENCE TO DRAIN THE AREA SO IT DOESN'T POT WORK.

CREATE A MOSQUITO PROBLEM.

YOU SAID YOU GUYS WERE TAKING OUT THAT GREEN SPACE RIGHT HERE, THAT NUMBER CORRECT? THIS BACK THAT, YEAH.

THAT 830 SQUARE FOOT.

THAT'S ABOUT 1.1% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY.

SO THAT BRINGS YOU UP TO 84.5%.

CORRECT.

WHAT'S UNDER THE ASTROTURF? UM, SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRAIN WOULD BE .

WE ARE ADDING A YARD DRAIN HERE IN THIS TURF AREA, AND IT'S GONNA BE TIED INTO THE UNDERGROUND STORM SEWER THAT WE HAVE.

CAN'T YOU PUT THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT CONCRETE, RIGHT? YOU COULD PUT COMPACTED SAND UNDER THAT AND YOU'D HAVE A, YOU'D HAVE A PER PERMEABLE SURFACE.

THEY MAY HAVE TO FIGHT THE WEEDS AND EVERYTHING.

NO, NOT COULD DO.

RIGHT? WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE THAT ON THIS PLAN, BUT WE COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THAT DETAIL.

84.5.

MAN, YOU GUYS ARE COMING THAT CLOSE.

, IF YOU NEED MORE, THERE'S A SPOT YOU CAN GET MORE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR MAYOR, UH, ONE TIME IS THESE PRESERVE TREES HAVE SOME MARKERS AROUND THEM SO THAT THE CONTRACTORS REALIZE THAT THEY'RE SPECIAL.

AND WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT BEFORE, SO IF WE COULD SPECIFY THAT.

UM, I WASN'T AWARE THE OBJECTION IN THE BUILDING.

YEAH, JUST CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHAT WE DID AT THE SBCA IS WE WENT, WE HAD OUR SURVEY CREW GO BACK OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY MARK THE TREES WITH, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS ORANGE OR PINK FLAGGING.

I THINK IT'S PINK TAPE.

AND WE WILL DO THE SAME FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT YOU NEED WHAT I THINK HARRY'S TALKING ABOUT, YOU NEED TO PUT THE ORANGE FENCING AROUND IT BARRIER THE CANOPY AREA SO THEY DON'T DIG IN AROUND AND MESS THE ROOTS UP.

THERE IS A, THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THE SW THREE P PLAN.

THERE'S A TYPE OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION BARRIER YOU PUT AROUND A TREE AND THAT CAN BE PUT ON OUR PLANTS.

YEAH, THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? MIGUEL? THAT'S IT.

SAL, ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

EVERYTHING, UH, LIKE I SAID, MAKE COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UH, WILL YOU RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER GIVEN THEM THE APPROVAL ON THE, UH, ADMINISTRATOR? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAINTIFF FOR THE ELITE CROSSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATION AT 1 0 6 CIRCLE CENTER WAY.

[11. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON SITE PLAN OF THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 131 CANNA LANE.]

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM, ADMINISTRATOR REVIEW AND ACTION.

ON SITE PLAN OF THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 1 31 CANADA LANE.

YOU WANNA TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE? OH NO, I SEE B AND L ON THERE.

BIG BL.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE OF THESE SMALLER SITES THAT'S COMING TO YOU JUST TO GIVE YOU EXTRA WORK.

UH, NO.

THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE THAT ARE SPECIAL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A CITY, UH, FACILITY.

UM, THIS IS THE ONE THAT DID NOT HAVE A WRITTEN PARKING COUNT REQUIREMENT.

IT'S, IT'S AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY JUST LIKE THE SPCA THAT CAME IN

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LAST MONTH.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS WE NEED THIS MANY SPACES.

SO THEY ARE PROVIDING A, A RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, EQUAL AMOUNT OF SPACES PER, UH, ONE PER FOUR.

WHAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE REQUIRED TO, TO RUN THIS PLACE, RIGHT? SO FOR THE WORKERS, AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING OUT WITH THAT.

UM, DRIVE THROUGH.

WE ARE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AT THE MOMENT.

UH, IT COULD BE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.

WE ARE JUST GETTING INTO THE CMAR CONTRACT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE IMPERVIOUS.

WE KNOW THAT MUCH.

IT MAY EVEN BE LIMESTONE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE COME OUT WITH THE PRICE OF THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY.

OVERALL.

UM, DETENTION REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET WITH THIS.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE DETENTION SYSTEM FOR THE SPC, A NEW BUILDING AND OLD SITE ALONG WITH THIS NEW ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY.

SO ALL OF THAT IS BEING MET WITH THIS POND.

THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ABUNDANCE OF, OF PARKING SPACES HERE AND WE MAY END UP CHOPPING SOME OF THOSE OFF.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S ON THE CUTTING BLOCK RIGHT NOW.

FOR NOW, THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE PRESENTING IT.

THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO GET IT APPROVED.

IF ANY OF THOSE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND, AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES LATER.

SO DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS JUST TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT RIGHT NOW.

WE STILL HAVE TO SIGN THOSE PAPERS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL START CHOPPING AND DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

I'M HOPING TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA BY MOVING SOME OF THOSE DOG KENNELS, UM, AND OPENING UP THAT FENCED AREA UP THERE BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE BUILDING ITSELF AND MOVING THOSE KENNELS TO THE REAR INSTEAD, AND BASICALLY GIVING SOME GRASS BACK TO THE SITE.

BUT WE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE THOSE, ALL OF THOSE CHANGES WE NEED TO RUN THROUGH WITH THE CONTRACTOR FIRST AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE GOTTA GET THIS PROJECT MOVING, SO WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING, THIS IS HOW WE'RE PRESENTING IT AT THE MOMENT, AND WE WILL MODIFY IT HOWEVER WE HAVE TO AND GET AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND THEN YOU FORM WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THIS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE EVERYTHING COMPLETELY.

AND THE PROPOSED, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, PERSONNEL THAT ARE GONNA BE FUNCTIONING THERE.

AND, UH, UH, AS PART OF, UH, MORE OF THE DETAIL AND SUMMARY, UH, UH, SUMMARY ON THIS SLIDE IS WE'RE BRINGING THIS UP TO YOU.

UH, FIRST OF ALL FOR US, PRESENTATION TO YOU, SINCE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THE SYSTEM OF DELIVERY ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS THE CMAR.

IT'S SET IN STONE, WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER CAN BE PAID FOR, AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT REMAINS.

SO THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR INFORMATION AND SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, IT IS, UH, IT IS BEING DONE IN A FOUR ACRE TRACK SITE OUT THERE WHERE YOU, UH, WHERE SHE HAS SHOWN THAT, UH, THAT OVERHEAD, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, THE CURRENT SBCA THAT'S BEING EXPANDED ALSO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

UH, SO IT'S GONNA BE, UH, THE TWIN OF THIS PARTICULAR SIDE PLAN.

IT IS A PROPOSED STRUCTURE FOR 1100 SQUARE FOOT, UH, FACILITY, UH, COMBINED, WHICH IS A COMBINED OFFICE AND THE, OF COURSE, THE, UH, THE KENNEL, THE KENNEL AREAS, UH, IT'S A 100 UNIT KENNEL, UH, PROPOSED AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

IT'S A 100 UNIT KENNELS FLOOR SPACE, A POSSIBILITY, UH, AND A SEPARATE ERY SPACE.

UH, IT HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A DOUBLE DECKER ON THE KENNEL SPACE.

UM, BUT, UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME WE JUST STAY STAYING WITH THE ORIGINAL 100 SPACES.

UH, THE FACILITY HAS AN ENCLOSED FENCED AREA, UH, ALL AROUND THE PARTICULAR BUILDING.

AND, UH, I THINK IT'S ALSO AROUND ALONG THE, UH, ALONG THE, UH, POND AREA.

IS IT THAT? YES.

SO IT'S ALL IN AN ENCLOSED FENCED AREA EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING AREA, WHICH IS GONNA BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, THE PARKING SPACE, LIKE EDDIE HAD SAID, UH, WE, SINCE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BOOKS AS FAR AS WHAT THIS TYPE OF USE IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE.

IT WAS DESIGNED BASED ON AN OCCUPANCY OF ONE ON THE OCCUPANCY LOAD OF 74.

AND THAT WAS, UH, ACCOUNTED BY THE, UH, BY THE ARCHITECT

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AND, UH, THEY, THERE'S ONE SPACE FOR EVERY FOUR OCCUPANTS THAT HAVE BEEN CALLED FOR.

AND THE, UH, DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT YOU SEE THERE, LIKE THAT EDDIE MENTIONED, IS PRIMARILY GONNA BE SURFACE FLOW.

AND IT IS GOING EITHER BY CHANNEL, GOING THROUGH THE, UH, GOING THROUGH THE SITE AND BY THE TENSION AREA THAT WILL RELEASE IT BACK INTO THE CHANNEL AND INTO THE OUTFALL AREA THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

ALL THE WATER UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE SITE RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'LL BE CONNECTIONS MADE TO THE EXISTING WATER, WHICH IS ON THAT SIDE OF THE, OF THE FACILITY.

BUT THE SANITARY SEWER IS GONNA BE, UH, PROVIDED BY A, UH, FORCE MAIN, A LIFT STATION AND FORCE LANE.

SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY GRAVITY LINE UP IN, IN THE, IN THE, UH, PROXIMITY, THERE IS A FORCE MAIN THAT CROSS THE STREET THAT WILL BE THEN, UH, TAPPED INTO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MEANT TO MENTION, AND I FORGOT THE SIDEWALK UP HERE, AND IT'S HATCHED OUT LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE WILL BE PROVIDING THE SIDEWALK, THE CITY WILL BE IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO CONNECT TO ON EITHER SIDE RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW ON THE AREA IT'S JUST A DITCH AND SOME WOODED AREA OVER HERE AND OVER ON THIS SIDE IT'S THE SPCA SITE WITHOUT A SIDEWALK.

SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

SO WE ARE ASKING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS GRANT US THAT, THAT GRACE TO UH, COME IN AND PUT IN A SIDEWALK WHEN THE TIME COMES.

THIS IS ALL OUR PROPERTY.

SO AT SOME POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY DOWN.

THIS, THIS STREET, THE PRIORITY OF THE SIDEWALK WAS VERY LOW AND UH, WAS IT BRENDA THAT ALWAYS WANTED SIDEWALKS? , SHE'S NOT HERE, SHE'S ANYMORE.

SHE WANTED BIKEWAY BIKEWAY BIKE WAYS.

ANYTHING JEFF? STUPID APARTMENT.

ON 2004.

ANYTHING ELSE, SAL ALREADY? I THINK THAT'S IT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GIST OF IT.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS CONTRACT AGREEMENT AND WE'VE GOTTA DO CHOPPING.

WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.

IF ANYTHING CHANGES, WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU.

DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING AND GET SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE CLOSEST WE CAN GET RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WON'T BE LIKE THE WE HATCH PROJECT? YEAH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE WE HATCH PROJECT.

WE'LL, WE'LL BRING YOU SOMETHING BACK BEFORE WE MAKE CHANGES, BUT A WHOLE LOT LIKE THIS APARTMENT LIKES MY FAVORITE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I'M SURE GONNA GET, IT'S GONNA GET TURNED INTO LIKE A PAINTBALL COMPLEX HERE SOON AT THIS RATE HEARING.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON THE SITE PLAN OF THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 1 31 CANNEL LANE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND.

[12. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 131 CANNA LANE.]

ALL RIGHT.

SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE.

I WANT 37 TREES OVER 44 INCHES.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LAND DOWN FIVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU.

NOW WE'LL GET 'EM FROM THE, FROM YOUR FAVORITE DEPARTMENT AREA.

HEY, THEY'RE NOT USING THEM.

, .

THEY WON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE GONE .

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE'RE ASK ASKING FOR GRACE ON THIS SCREENING THAT'S REQUIRED UP HERE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT COVERED IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, SO THIS WILL HAVE TO BE PLACED BY THE CITY TO SCREEN THIS AREA UP HERE.

WE WANT TO POSTPONE THAT AND, AND DO IT AT A LATER DATE IF WE CAN.

UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS THE PARKING THAT'S ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK IF WE CAN'T AFFORD SOME OTHER STUFF.

AND SO THAT MAY ACTUALLY NOT BE A PARKING AREA IN THE FUTURE.

UH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY A NIGHT POPPING SPOT, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A LOT OF CARS.

YEAH, THERE'S A LARGE FOOD, BIG MAYBE BASEBALL PEOPLE PROTECTED AREA.

YOU KNOW, THE BASEBALL, THE YOUTH BASEBALL, KIDS PARKING OVER THERE, THE PARENTS, WHICH IS, IT MAY BE USED FOR THAT.

THIS LEVEE WAS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL, CONCEPTUAL, CONCEPTUAL, CONCEPTUAL, UH, DESIGN THAN SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN THAT MANNER.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, MIGUEL HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MEANDERING THIS DITCH THROUGH HERE TO SAVE AS MANY OF THESE OLDER TREES THAT ARE GROWING ON THE SIDE OF THE OLD LANDFILL AS POSSIBLE.

GOOD MAN.

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SO WE STRAIGHTENED IT OUT AND WE, WE LEFT AS MUCH GREEN AREA AND KEPT AS MANY OTHER SMALL TREES IN THAT AREA AS POSSIBLE ALONG THE BACK, JUST AS A SCREEN BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE, THE LANDFILL.

UM, AND IT'S SERVING PURPOSE THOUGH.

THE BERM, THE BERM IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN.

THE BERM ACTUALLY STOPS WATER FROM THE LANDFILL FROM RUNNING DOWN ONTO THE SITE AND OVERWHELMING, UH, MIGUEL'S DETENTION DESIGN HERE.

SO IT, IT'S ACTUALLY FORCING THE WATER TO COME OUT AND DROP INTO THE DITCH BEFORE IT GETS ONTO THESE PROPERTIES.

SPCA AND THE ANIMAL CONTROLS FACILITY.

SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE NOW, YOU'LL SEE A BIG BROWN WALL ALONG THE WHOLE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY.

WHERE THEY HAVE DUG OUT THE, UH, FOUNDATION FOR THE SPCA BUILDING AND THEY'VE PUSHED ALL OF THAT DIRT UP HERE TO BUILD A BERM, UH, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BERM, BUT IT ENDS UP MORE LIKE A LEVEE BECAUSE THIS ADDITIONAL DIRT HERE IN THIS DITCH WAS ALSO PUSHED UP THERE.

SO IT'S GOT SOME HEIGHT TO IT.

IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA STOP THE WATER FROM COMING DOWN THAT HILL.

UM, AND THEY HAD EXTRA DIRT, SO THEY LEVELED OUT SOME OF THIS AREA THAT WAS HARD TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE OF ALL THE, IT WAS A HAY FIELD, UH, UP UNTIL 15 YEARS AGO OR SO.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PRETTY TALL STOCK, YOU KNOW, GRASS IN THAT AREA.

IT'S HARD FOR US TO MAINTAIN AS THE CITY SINCE WE'VE GOT SO MANY DITCHES THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO CUT.

THOSE GUYS REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO COME AND MOW THIS HAY FIELD.

UM, SO THEY PATTED ALL THAT, FLATTENED IT OUT WITH SOME DIRT SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME SMALLER MOWERS UP THERE AND KEEP IT TRIMMED WITH THE SPCA AND THE ANIMAL, UH, FACILITY.

UM, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

WE SAVED EVERYTHING WE COULD AS FAR AS TREES.

IT WASN'T A LOT WORTH SAVING, BUT THEY'RE UP.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE PRETTIEST TREE ON THE SPCA SITE AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY SITE.

IT'S A, IT'S AN OAK TREE.

IT'S DEFINITELY WAY PRETTIER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER HACKBERRIES AND ASH TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE PARTY AND CHOKE TREES.

NEXT TREE.

YEAH, WE DEFINITELY, WE, WE REROUTED THE LEVEE AROUND IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T GET INTO IT.

SO IT'S, IT'S GOT A REALLY GOOD CHANCE OF SURVIVING THROUGH EVERYTHING WE DO ON THAT SITE.

SAL? NO, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY, NO SIR.

THAT'S IT.

I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, AMENDMENT OF THE LAKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY LOCATED AT 1 31 COUNTY LANE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR A.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU EDDIE.

[13. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS]

YES, SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS TO SIGN TODAY? YEAH.

ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

[14. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

WE HAD SOMEONE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PARKING, UH, BY THE, THE, THE BASEBALL FIELD OVER THERE.

UH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS, UH, ARE WE REALLY EXPECTING THEM TO PARK OVER AT THE, UH, REC CENTER AND WALK ACROSS? UH, THEY'LL PARK WHEREVER'S CLOSEST TO PARK, SO YEAH, NO, THE THE, THE PARKING FOR THE BALL FIELD IS ATROCIOUS, BUT THAT'S SCHOOL PROPERTY AND YEAH, THAT'S SCHOOL PROPERTY.

THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT CAN BE DONE.

THERE IS PARKING BEHIND THE SCHOOL, PARKING AT THE REC CENTER AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAN ENOUGH TO TELL 'EM TO STICK IT IN THEIR EAR, THERE'S PARKING AT THEIR LITTLE FIELD HOUSE THAT'S STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE IT MARKED UP FOR COACHES ONLY NOW.

AND I TAKE THAT CHAIN DOWN EVERY TIME I GO.

EVERY TIME.

AND FORTUNATELY IT'S A GREAT BIG WATER METER.

I JUST DON'T GO.

UM, EDDIE, WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE APARTMENT ACROSS FROM ? WHAT WAS ALL FLASHING LIGHTS AND VEHICLES THERE? WELL, TODAY, YEAH, I CAME BY THERE JUST NOW.

THERE WAS CITY VEHICLES THERE AT THE ENTRANCE THAT THAT WATER METER IS DEAD.

THE WATER METER'S NOT WORKING, SO THEY NEED TO REPLACE THAT WATER.

DID THEY BREAK THAT WATER METER AFTER NOT PAYING THEIR BILL? NO, IT'S BEEN BROKEN FOR A WHILE AND THEY JUST HAVEN'T GOT AROUND TO DOING IT.

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IT'S, IT'S A FOUR INCH AND IT'S SOLID BRASS, SO IT, IT'S PRETTY HEAVY.

SO TO GET IT OUT OF THAT LITTLE VAULT, THEY HAVE TO FIRST TAKE OFF THAT HUGE LID.

THOSE BOLTS HAVE BEEN ON THERE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.

SO THEY'VE GOTTA CUT THE BOLTS OFF TO GET THE LID OFF.

IT'S A BIG DIAMOND PLATE, UH, GALVANIZED LID, SO IT'S GOTTA BE LIFTED OFF WITH THE TRACTOR.

THEN THEY GOTTA GET IN THERE, UNBOLT THE OLD METER AND LIFT THAT OUT.

THE, THE METER ITSELF HAS TO BE LIFTED OUT WITH THE TRACTOR.

SO IT'S A CIRCUS WHEN THEY DO IT.

UM, THAT PARTICULAR ONE DOES NOT HAVE A BYPASS, SO THEY HAVE TO SCHEDULE AROUND EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE THERE TO ALL THE, THE RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PROBABLY OUT THERE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO GET IT DONE.

THAT'S WHY THEY BUGGED ME ABOUT THAT TRASH BILL TODAY, .

MAKES SENSE.

YEP.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON THERE RIGHT NOW.

ANYTHING? NO UHUH.

MATT, YOU BROUGHT THE APARTMENTS UP.

HOW ARE THEY DOING? THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL.

ARE THEY? THEY ARE, MAN.

I SEE THEY GOT THE ROBOCOP THERE SECURITY AT NIGHT, SO.

THAT BACKUP TO CODE, UH, AT LEAST GET IT RECORDED IS WHAT IT IS.

THEY DO, HUH? YEAH.

GOD BLESS.

IF YOU PULL IN ONE OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS TO TURN AROUND, THINK NOTHING LIGHTS UP.

HE IS ON YOU IN A HEARTBEAT.

UM, ANY MOVEMENT ON OUR PARKING LOT DEVELOPMENT AT THE MALL, PEOPLE NEXT TO, WHAT WAS THAT RED LOBSTER THERE? ZONING AT THAT SPOT OUT OR NOT ZONING IT OUT BUT CUTTING IT OUT ACTUALLY, YES.

OOH, TELL ME MORE LOBSTER.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RED LOBSTER OR YOU'RE TALKING THE SPACE NEXT TO THE LOBSTER FROM RED LOBSTER.

THE PARTITION PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THAT ARE NOW INQUIRING ABOUT THE RED LOBSTER.

COME ON.

HOOTERS, .

YEAH, THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE, UH, IN THE RED LOBSTER, UH, SAGA.

THE, UH, PERSON THAT HAD AN OPTION TO BUY THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, WE THOUGHT HAD THE PROPERTY, UH, DECIDED THAT, UH, HE WAS GOING TO GIVE UP ON THE OPTION.

AND, UH, THE FELLOW, LIKE, UH, NICOLE SAYS THE FELLOW THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE INTERIOR TRACK, NOT LOOKING THERE IS ALSO NOW LOOKING AT, AT THE, AT WHAT POINT DO WE FIND THEM FOR NOT CUTTING THE GRASS.

UH, AND YOU DIDN'T GO PLAY TAGGING THE GRASS AND NOW WE WOULDN'T SEE EACH OTHER.

IS THIS THE RED LOBSTER OR THE RED LOBSTER? NO, THE RED LOBSTER.

IT'S A MATTER OF CALLING THE, UH, THE, UH, DAVID DOESN'T VISIT US ANYMORE, SO, YEAH.

WELL WE CAN BRING IT UP THOUGH.

PRETTY SHOTTY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL LET EVERYTHING ELSE BE FOR NOW.

RHONDA, WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? WORDS OF WISDOM? NO WORDS OF WISDOM, ANYTHING ON THE COUNSEL THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? UM, YESTERDAY'S MEETING WAS A LONG ONE WITH THE SQUARE.

THE CONTRACTOR DID A DOWNTOWN FINISH THAT UP.

WE DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR NUMBERS AND THEY DON'T AGREE, SO TAKE A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE A LAW DEGREE AND AN ENGINEERING DEGREE.

I COULD BE A EDDIE, WHAT'S WE NEED YOUR, UH, ANNUAL REPORT.

UH, OKAY.

STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS.

WHAT'S RIGHT HERE? HERE.

UH, HOME.

TWO SUITES DOWN THE STREET OVER HERE.

THE ONE NEXT TO THE SITE THAT YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED? MM-HMM.

, UH, BY THE WAY, THAT WAS LESS THAN A TWO ACRE SITE THAT YOU JUST LOOKED AT.

THE REASON WHY IT CAME TO YOU WAS NOT 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO WASTE YOUR TIME, BUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN THAT DISTRICT IN THE COMES TO YOU.

IT'S IN THE PUD.

YEAH, IT'S IN THE PUD.

THE PUD.

UM, SO HOME TWO SUITES, IT, THEY'VE GOT THEIR CO THEY'RE GETTING THEIR APPROVAL FROM HILTON TO START OPEN OR OPEN AND THEY SHOULD START TAKING, UH, GUESTS IN ANOTHER RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS ACTUALLY.

UM, THEY'VE GOT A FEW LITTLE ISSUES WITH THE DRAINAGE.

UH, NICOLE AND I WENT AND WALKED IT.

THEY NEED TO ADD A BERM TO PRETTY MUCH CONTAIN THEIR DRAINAGE ON THEIR SITE.

UM, THE TREES ARE, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

THERE'S A LITTLE VERY SMALL LITTLE GRASS ISLAND THAT DIDN'T GO IN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE PROGRESS OF THE BUILD, BUT THERE IS A NICE LITTLE SEATING AREA OUTSIDE WITH A LITTLE HALF WALL KIND OF.

PEOPLE CAN SIT OUTSIDE AND CAFE OUT THERE IF THEY WANT.

UH, THAT TOOK THAT PLACE OF THAT LITTLE GRASS ISLAND, BUT THEY'RE STILL WAY ABOVE THE, UH, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THEM TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THAT THAT WAY.

BUT THE FIRST PERMIT THAT THEY NEED, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A NEW LANDSCAPE ESCAPE PLAN TO GET ALL

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UM, IT'S NOT VIOLATING ANYTHING.

IT'S FAR FROM IT.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA LET THAT ONE GO AND THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP HERE PRETTY SOON.

UH, SI WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TDCU.

I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE GUY THERE ON SITE.

I IMAGINE HE'S PRETTY MISERABLE.

THAT METAL BUILDING THAT, UH, THE GUY DROPPED THE BALL ON BEFORE HE LEFT THE COMPANY.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING IN, BUT IT'S COMING IN ONE PIECE AT A TIME.

SO IT'S, IT'S A SKELETON OUT THERE.

IT'S BEEN A SKELETON FOR A WHILE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A SKELETON FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

I'M GUESSING THEY'RE JUST SENDING ENOUGH PIECES TO KEEP THEM ON THE HOOK.

UM, SO IT'S MOVING SLOW.

THEY, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE CONTRACTOR HAS MOVED ON TO START FINISHED GRADING.

HE'S INSTALLING IRRIGATION.

THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU DO TOWARDS THE END TO BUY TIME WHILE THIS BUILDING COMES IN ONE PIECE AT A TIME.

UM, THE VILLAS.

SO TOMORROW MORNING I HAVE A MEETING, UH, WITH THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT ON SITE, UH, TO GO AND WALK HIS WORK.

UM, THEY HAVE SUPPOSEDLY MET THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE DESIGN IN THE BUFFER ZONE, SO I HAVE TO GO OVER THERE AND VERIFY IT TOMORROW.

AS FAR AS THE, THE, NOT THE ORIGINAL.

I'LL TAKE, TAKE THAT BACK.

NOT THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE.

YEAH, THE ORIGINAL PLANTING PLANT.

I DIDN'T NO 40 INCH TREES IN THERE.

IT'S A NEW MALL MANAGER AND SHE IS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER ALL THESE PIECES AND FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THIS MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THOSE TENANTS, UH, WATER AND SEWER DUES, UH, HAVE BEEN GOING SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE MALL.

SO, UM, THEY WANT ME TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, VERIFY THAT THEY'VE DONE WHAT THEY PROMISED TO DO AS FAR AS PLANTINGS.

AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEIR TREES HAVE DIED ALL OVER THE SITE.

SO THEY WILL BE BACK WITH A NEW LANDSCAPE PLAN BEFORE EVERYTHING'S SAID AND DONE.

AND YOU'LL GET YOUR, YOUR TIME TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT WITH THEM THROUGH THE BLOOD LETTING YEAH.

UM, YOU JUST WANTED TO PRESS THIS WITH HOW UGLY IT LOOKS NOW AFTER THE BEAUTIFUL TREES , THE, UH, , THE NORTH SHADY OAKS PROJECT IS OUR BIG, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION PROJECT.

IT IS MOVING ALONG VERY QUICKLY.

WE'RE ABOUT TO STOP 'EM OF COURSE, BECAUSE CHRISTMAS IS COMING UP AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF OPEN MUDDY AREAS WHILE PEOPLE ARE RUNNING IN AND OUT VISITING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

SO, UM, THEY ARE RIGHT NOW COMPLETING PINOT COURT.

THEY TOOK OUT ALL THE CONCRETE TODAY, TOMORROW THEY ACTUALLY HAVE LIME SCHEDULED TO BE BROUGHT IN AND MIXED.

UM, LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER'S NOT TO COOPERATE, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE.

I MEAN, AND THAT TYPE OF WORK, YOU, YOU JUST GOTTA PLAN AND HOPE IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T, YOU, YOU NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE.

SO THEY'RE PLANNING AND HOPING RIGHT NOW THAT IT, THE RAIN WILL HOLD OFF AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT LINE MIX AND THEY'LL BE POURING THE STREET PAVEMENT HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK.

RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT BEHIND THE CURB CONCRETE, WHICH IS CURB ITSELF, SIDEWALK, DRIVEWAYS, ALL OF THAT TYPE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PIN OAK STREET, UM, FROM PIN OAK COURT ALL THE WAY TO FOREST OAKS RIGHT NOW.

THEY'VE GOT ALL THAT OPEN.

THEY'VE GOT THE STREET IN.

THEY JUST POURED THAT TWO DAYS AGO AND NO, YESTERDAY, SORRY.

THEY POURED THAT YESTERDAY AND THEY'RE STARTING TO DO THE BEHIND THE CURB WORK NOW.

UH, THEY'LL GET THAT POURED.

ALSO WORK ON FORMING UP THE STREET IN PINOT COURT.

GET PINOT COURT ITSELF POURED OUT AND THEN COME BACK AND DO THE BEHIND THE CURB WORK.

AND THAT SHOULD PUT 'EM RIGHT AT CHRISTMAS.

THEY'RE TAKING A WEEK OFF FOR CHRISTMAS, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THEM TO LEAVE AN OPEN SITE.

SO THEY'LL GET EVERYTHING BUTTONED UP, GIVE IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE FOR THAT WEEK, COME BACK ON JANUARY 6TH AND START TEARING UP STREET AGAIN.

THEY HAVE TO DO THE OTHER HALF OF PIN OAK STREET AND THEN THEY'LL BE MOVING ON TO FOREST OAKS AND NORTH SHADY OAKS, UH, ON THE TURNING RADIUS FOR THE TRUCKS.

THAT MALL SIGN IS PRETTY MUCH GARBAGE BARREL TOOK.

YEAH, I GET TO THE PART JUST, YEAH, IT DESTROYED IT.

UM, I FIGURED THEY'RE GONNA GET A NEW SIGN.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA PUT A NEW DISPLAY UP ON THERE.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S NOT THE BAD PART.

THAT LITTLE POLE THAT YOU SEE JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE DRIVEWAY THERE, THAT LITTLE WHITE DOT WITH THE LONG SHADOW.

YEAH, THAT'S THE POWER POLE FOR THE, FOR THE LIGHT.

IT CAME DOWN.

YOU HAVE BUDDY.

AND SO NOW THEY'VE GOT A UPGRADE ALL OF THEIR ELECTRICAL FROM THE TRANSFORMER POLE THERE OVER TO THAT POLE AND ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO THE SIGN.

SO THEY MAY BE GETTING A MONUMENT SIGN, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE LIGHTS, DOESN'T HAVE LIGHTS INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY HAVE.

THAT'S ALSO THE CONTROLLER FOR THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

SO THEY'VE LOST THEIR IRRIGATION IN THAT LITTLE ISLAND AS WELL.

SO THAT WHOLE ISLAND MAY DISAPPEAR.

UH, I MEAN WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, THE MALL RIGHT NOW IS UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT, I GUESS STILL THEY'VE BEEN UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT FOR FOUR MONTHS OR SO.

I SAY NEW MANAGEMENT, IT'S NOT NEW OWNERS.

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UM, SHE'S, SHE'S ON TOP OF IT.

SHE IS DRUMMING UP MONEY AND TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING PUT BACK TOGETHER.

WE'LL SEE HOW FAR SHE GETS, UH, BEFORE SHE MOVES ON OR THE MALL MOVES ON.

UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE AT.

SO THAT WHOLE THING MAY BE CHANGING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

WE'LL SEE, UH, WHAT COMES OF IT ALREADY ON.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, MR. SERGEANT, YOU ASKED ABOUT TREES AT OLIVE GARDEN.

YEAH, THOSE TREES WERE INSTALLED ORIGINALLY.

I'VE GOT SOME, SOME GOOGLE PICTURES JUST TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T LOSING MY MIND.

THERE WAS A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THERE, IF THEY COULD PUT THEIR SCREENING TREES INSTEAD OF ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, PUT A CLUSTER OF 'EM OVER BY THE SIGN.

AND WE ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE'S POWER LINES RIGHT OVER WHERE THOSE TREES WERE GONNA GROW.

SO THE CITY ALLOWED THEM TO PUT THE SAME NUMBER OF TREES BUT TO PUT THEM OVER IN A CLUSTER BY THE SIGN KIND OF FURTHER BACK FROM THE POWER LINES.

THOSE AT SOME POINT DIED AND THEY WERE NEVER REPLACED.

SO, UM, WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO IS GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO GET THEM TO UPGRADE.

AND I DID TALK TO SHERRY, UM, THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, IT WAS ABOUT LOWE'S AND SOME TREES AND NOTHING CAME OF IT BECAUSE LOWE'S CAME IN.

JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAPPENED TO COME IN LIKE THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND ASK FOR A PERMIT.

AND AS SOON AS SOMEBODY ASKED FOR A PERMIT, WE CAN SHOVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN RIGHT BACK DOWN THEIR THROAT AND MAKE THEM UPGRADE EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH LOWE'S.

THEY ASKED FOR A PERMIT.

WE SAID, OKAY, GREAT, WE'LL GIVE YOU A PERMIT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET EVERYTHING UP TO GRADE.

AND THEY CAME IN AND TOOK DOWN SOME LEANING TREES AND DEAD TREES AND REPLACED SOME TREES THAT WEREN'T THERE.

AND THEY GOT EVERYTHING BACK UP TO DATE.

THOSE LITTLE TREES ARE, THEY'RE SMALL TREES.

THEY LOOK GOOFY OUT THERE NEXT TO ALL THOSE MATURE TREES, BUT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA GROW AND THEY'RE MEETING THE ORDINANCE AT THE MOMENT.

SO THE PROCESS FOR OLIVE GARDEN IS TO PRINT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, ACCORDING TO SHERRY.

PRINT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, TAKE IT TO THE OWNER MANAGER, WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE.

THIS IS THE PLAN, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO MEET.

GIVE THEM A TIMELINE TO GET IT COMPLETED.

IT HAS TO BE REASONABLE.

UH, GIVE THEM A TIMELINE AND THEN GIVE THEM THE DATE OF THE NEXT PLANTER'S MEETING AFTER THAT TIMELINE AND TELL THEM THEY EITHER MEET THE TIMELINE OR THEY NEED TO BE PRESENT AT THE PLANTER'S MEETING TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY COULDN'T AND WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PLANNING SEASONS AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF.

SO THE TIMELINE'S GONNA VARY DEPENDING ON WHEN WE DO IT AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO PLANT.

BUT, UH, THEN IF THEY DO NOT REPLACE THE PLANTS AND THEY DO NOT COME TO PLANT OR SHERRY, SHERRY WANTS TO CHECK WITH HER ONE MORE TIME AND THEN START FINDING THEM, UH, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE APP OPTION TO GET IT FIXED OR KEEP PAYING MONEY.

AND SO ACCORDING TO SHERRY, THAT'S OUR PROCESS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S TOO LATE IN A YEAR TO GET OLIVE GARDEN MOVING ON ANYTHING.

BUT I WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET SOMETHING MOVING.

UM, ON THE NEXT AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THOSE TREE CREDITS.

UM, THE, THE BIG QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR SITE, THOSE TREES WERE PLANTED IN 83.

IS THAT WHEN 83 OR 87? ONE OF THOSE? IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

UM, AND SO THOSE, SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE REALLY OLD NOW.

AND AT SOME POINT WE WERE THINKING AMONGST OURSELVES, IF THEY DO DEMOLISH THAT CHURCH AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON THAT SITE, IT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLAIM CREDITS FOR MATURE TREES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT WAS ORIGINALLY.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE NOT DEMOLISHING THE BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT STARTING OVER FRESH.

IT'S NOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST AN UPGRADE TO THEIR LANDSCAPING.

UM, SO SOME OF THOSE MATURE TREES, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE WAY THAT THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLAIM CREDIT FORM 'EM.

BUT WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THOSE TREES WERE PLANTED THERE BY THE ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS.

SO THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY HERITAGE TREES, THEY'RE TREES THAT WERE TRANSPLANTED IN PLACE THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO A PROBLEM AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT AND GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON AT ONE.

WHAT POINT DO THEY GO FROM BEING TRANSPLANTED TREES TO PRESERVATION ELIGIBLE TREES?

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HOW BIG DO THEY NEED TO BE? HOW OLD DO THEY NEED TO BE? IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT SITE IS REDEVELOPED BEFORE WE EVEN CONSIDER IT? WE GET INTO TOO, TOO DEEP INTO THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT SINCE WE'RE GONNA BRING IT IN.

I DON'T WANT, UH, TO BE SPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BEING RECORDED.

YEAH, SO THE, ANYWAYS, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE'RE GONNA BRING.

WE ALSO WANNA BRING YOU BACK THE PRESERVATION CREDITS.

UH, AS FAR AS DOUBLE DIPPING GOES, UH, THAT WAS SCREEN TREES BEING COUNTED AS SITE REQUIREMENT TREES.

SO WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? YOU DID A FINE JOB YOUNG MAN.

GOOD JOB BETTY.

OKAY ANNA, WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING ON TUESDAY, JANUARY THE SEVENTH.

ALRIGHT, MR. JUDGE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT STATUS OF FENCES ON Y POND.

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL.

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL ON THE WEST SIDE, RIGHT PAST OYSTER CREEK, NORTH Y POND.

THEY'VE GOT THE GUY COVERED UP ALL THE JUNK IN HIS BACKYARD WITH BOARDS THAT ARE GROWING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND PROPS AND SUCH.

AND, AND THAT COULD BE A MATTER OF THE CODE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY REPAIR TO A CERTAIN CONDITION.

UH, YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL WAITING ON THE INSURANCE AND THINKING THAT THE INSURANCE IS GONNA COVER THAT.

UH, WHICH THEY'RE NOT.

BUT UH, THEY ARE HANGING ON THAT UH, CONDITION THERE.

WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? THEY'RE NOT, IN A LOT OF CASES THEY DON'T COVER THE FENCE THAT 99.9% OF THE TIME, UNLESS YOU HAVE A HURRICANE FENCE.

IF YOU HAVE A HURRICANE FENCE, THEY'RE ALL FOR IT.

PRIVACY FENCE.

I'VE SEEN ONE BOARD FENCE PUT ALL ON THE CORNER.

I THINK IT'S BAAN AND WHERE THEY ALTERNATED THE BOARDS SO IT WOULD STAY UP.

THAT'S THE H FENCE.

I THOUGHT THAT WORKED VERY GOOD, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

BUT, UH, NO THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE IS GONNA START DOING IT 'CAUSE PEOPLE WANT IT COVERED AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA COVER IT UNLESS THEY DO THAT OR THEY DO CHAIN LINK AN ATTABOY.

UH, WE HAD A LIGHT POST DOWN FROM THE STORM.

UH, WHAT'S IT UP THERE ON YO POND AGAIN? I CAN'T.

AND UH, I WENT OVER AND COULDN'T FIND A NUMBER AND I CONTACTED THE CITY AND THE NEXT DAY CENTER POINT WAS WORKING ON THAT.

SO I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED.

WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNER HAD BEEN CALLING CENTER POINT AND GOT NO PLACE.

SO IN THE OFFICE? YEAH, IN THE NICOLE, HOW YOU CALL IT? YEAH.

GET AROUND THE VOICE.

ALRIGHT, SAL.

[15. SET NEXT MEETING DATE]

CALENDAR.

THERE IS A JANUARY 7TH.

YES, JANUARY THE SEVENTH, 25.

YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE STILL, THAT'S YOUR LAST DAY OF NO SCHOOL SO YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T BE HERE.

WE'LL BE OH YOU'RE GONNA OWE LOCK AN EXTRA.

WE GOT IT ON THERE.