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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO GET STARTED.UH, WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE, UH, MONDAY, APRIL 7TH, 2025, REGULAR SESSION OF THE LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
THE, UH, MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN HANYA PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.DUE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THROUGH THE
ONE INDIVISIBLE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN JEWEL.
YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HERE THIS EVENING.
AND AS OUR MEETING, UH, CONTINUES AND DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US A STRENGTH, STRENGTH, WISDOM, COURAGE, TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE FEEL ARE IN BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OF OUR CITY.
WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR EMT, OUR FIRE AND POLICE PERSONNEL ALONG AS OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR MILITARY SERVICE ABROAD, AND STATE SIDES.
GET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HOME SAFELY.
AND IF YOU WOULD, UH, PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SCIENCE FOR, UH, MAYOR BOB SIPPEL AND HIS FAMILY.
THIS EVENING, UH, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS,
[PRESENTATION]
UH, RECOGNIZING OLIN DOW AND FREEPORT L AND G FOR DONATING, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, VICTOR SHIELDS.I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THESE THREE COMPANIES.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY GAVE THIS GREAT RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE IN EVERY ONE OF OUR PATROL UNITS.
ALSO, CID HAS THEM, BASICALLY, IF THEY RESPOND TO A CALL, THEY HAVE THIS RESOURCE, UH, WHICH WILL PROTECT THEM AND ALSO, UH, HELP THEM, UH, DEAL WITH ANY OTHER, UH, PERSON WHO TRIES TO ATTACK THEM.
I HAVE A SERGEANT AND, AND IS A TRAINING PERSON IN TRAINING HERE WITH A SHIELD.
SERGEANT GONZALES, WOULD YOU COME UP HERE AND SHOW COUNSEL AND THE AUDIENCE WHAT THE SHIELD LOOKS LIKE? THIS RIGHT HERE IS, IS THE VECTOR SHIELD.
IT HAS, UH, STRAPS ON IT TO HOLD IT ON YOUR ARM.
IT WILL STOP UP TO A 7.62 ROUND.
UH, AND IT'S VERY EASY TO GO INTO A BUILDING.
INSTEAD, THE BIGGER, LARGER SHIELDS, THIS WAY, AN OFFICER HAS IT.
ANYTIME THEY NEED TO GO, GO ON A CALL, THEY HAVE A READILY AVAILABLE SERGEANT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THEY'RE THE PATROL CAR? YEAH.
SO WE KEEP THESE IN THE FRONT SEAT.
UH, THEY'RE EITHER HUNG FROM THE, UM, HEADREST IN THE PASSENGER SEAT, OR IF LIKE, UM, THIS EVENING ME AND MY TRAINING OFFICER ARE RIDING TWO MEN, UM, IT'LL, WE, WE PUT IT UP UNDERNEATH THE FRONT SEAT.
IT'S STILL ABLE TO, UH, BE DEPLOYED QUICKLY, UH, THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GET IN THE BACK TO GET IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU WOULD SHOW THE AUDIENCE DOWN, YOU COULD SEE THE POLICE SHIELD.
WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT, UH, PERSONALLY DESIGNED ALSO.
THIS IS REFLECTIVE AND THIS PARTICULAR, THE, THESE, UH, CHEVRONS ON THERE ACTUALLY A DISTRACTION, UH, IN WORLD WAR II.
THEY USE THOSE ON THE SHIP ON THE OCEAN, AND THEY TOOK THAT PHILOSOPHY AND PUT IT ON THE SHIELD TO TRY TO DRAW THE ATTENTION FROM THE SUSPECT WHO WE'RE DEALING WITH AWAY, SO THE OFFICER CAN FOCUS ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WE HAVE A, A, SOME PLAQUES HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO EACH ONE OF THE, UH, COMPANIES.
UH, THE, THE VERBIAGE IS ALL THE SAME IN EACH ONE, BUT I'D LIKE TO READ IT TO YOU.
IT SAYS, ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, IT SAYS, THE LAKE JACKSON POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU OR THANK YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR DONATING LIFE SAVING EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING FOR OUR OFFICERS.
YOUR GENEROUS DONATION WILL PROTECT THE COMMUNITY OF LAKE JACKSON, ITS CITIZENS, ITS PEACE OFFICERS, AND THE BRASS SUPPORT COMMUNITIES AT LARGE, WITH A SPECIAL FOCUS ON AUTISM AWARENESS AND SAFETY FOR THOSE ON THE SPECTRUM.
MAYOR, WOULD YOU MIND HELPING ME WITH THIS, PLEASE? SURE.
LAURA? NOT SURE IF AGREE, PLEASE.
UH, SERGEANT, WOULD YOU MIND STANDING HERE WITH THE SHIELD? GET A PICTURE.
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THE, OKAY.WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY GO FOR EACH COMPANY AND THEN WE'LL BRING THE WHOLE GROUP UP FOR A BIG PICTURE.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, THIS IS FOR OLAND CORPORATION FOR OLAND.
WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? WE HAVE MATT STEWART, THE SITE LEADER, BILL GILER, GILER FROM OLAND, EHS LEADER, UH, TIM GARZA, HEALTH AND SAFETY SECURITY LEADER, AND CHASE BLANCHARD MERCH RESPONSE TO SECURITY MANAGER.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE DOW REPRESENTATIVE RECEIVED HERE YET.
DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID ON THE FLAG? I DID, YES.
YOU GOT HERE BEFORE WE GOT STARTED.
HOW THIS, THANK VERY MUCH JEFF ALL AND WOULD Y'ALL MIND COMING UP TOGETHER AND WE'LL GET ONE BIG GROUP PICTURE, PLEASE.
WE MOVE THIS OUT THE WAY COUNSEL WANTS TO STAND UP BEHIND US THERE.
AND AGAIN, WE THANK Y'ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
THERE YOU GO BACK WHEREVER Y'ALL CAN.
I HELP YOU STARTING TO FIND THE SPOT.
HOW YOU, YOU LATER APPRECIATE IT.
WHEN DO WE GET OUR SHIELDS WITH OUR NAMES? LIKE WHEN, WHEN THE SKATE PARK OPENED, WE ALL GOT SKATEBOARDS, RIGHT? SO I'M THINKING MINI RIOT SHIELD.
BRIAN'S PRETTY, UH, COUNCILMAN BROADS.
WHAT'S THAT? MS. BROS WAS COUNCILMAN BROADS WAS ASKING WHEN HE GET, WHEN WOULD HE GET HIS OWN SHIELD? YEAH.
WHEN DO I GET MY, WHEN DO I GET MY SHIELD WITH MY NAME ON? I DON'T WANT BE IN THERE LIKE IT WHEN HE GRADUATES.
IT'S WHEN HE GRADUATE FROM THE POLICE ACCOUNT.
THAT'S, THAT'S SO NEVER THEN TASTE.
WE APPRECIATE THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE LOCAL INDUSTRY.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO IS UH, ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION.
I GERALD KY, BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 25TH, 2025 AS ARBOR DAY AND THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.
WHEREAS AS ARBOR DAY WAS FIRST OBSERVED WITH PLANTING OF WORN THAN A MILLION TREES IN NEBRASKA IN 1972.
AND WHERE THE TREES CAN REDUCE THE EROSION OF OUR, UH, PRECIOUS TOPSOIL, UH, BY WIND AND WATER, UH, CUT HEATING AND COOLING COSTS MODERATE THE TEMPERATURE, CLEAN THE AIR, PRODUCE OXYGEN, AND PROHIBIT, UH, UH, PROVIDE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE.
WHEREAS THE TREES OR RENEWABLE RESOURCE GIVING US PAPER WOOD FOR OUR HOMES, FUEL FOR OUR FIRES AND COUNTLESS OTHER WOOD PRODUCTS.
AND WHEREAS TREES AND OUR CITY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, ENHANCE THE, UH, ECONOMIC VITALITY OF BUSINESS AREA OF OUR BUSINESS AREAS AND BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS LAKE JACKSON HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS TREE CITY USA BY THE NATIONAL ARBOR BAY FOUNDATION AND DESIRES TO CONTINUE PLANTING WAIVES NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL
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CITY OF LAKE JACKSON DO HEREBY FOR PLANNING APRIL 25TH, 2025 AS HARBOR DAY AND CITY OF LAKE JACKSON IN TESTIMONY WERE WITNESS BY HAND AND THE SEAL LAKE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON THIS SEVENTH DAY OF APRIL THANK 25TH.WELL THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
THE TRASH CAN, I GUESS PEOPLE STILL SMOKE.
WE MOVE ON TO VISITOR'S COMMENTS.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, CITY COUNCIL MAY UH, NOT DISCUSS ANY, UH, PRESENTA PRESENTED ISSUES, NOR MAY ANY ACTION BE TAKEN ON ANY ISSUE AT THIS TIME.
ANY ITEM PRESENTED COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON AGENDA OF A REGULAR SCHEDULED FUTURE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANY VISITORS? DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM.
NEXT ITEM IS DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THIS IS WHERE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT NEEDS TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? NOT HEARING ANY.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
AGENDA.APPROVAL ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 17TH, 2025.
ITEM TWO, ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS, UH, BE PLANNERS, UH, UH, AND KEEP LAKE JACKSON BEAUTIFUL AND LAKE JACKSON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
ITEM THREE, AWARD BIDDER, UH, BID NUMBER, UH, 2 5 0 3 0 0 1 FOR SALE OF 0.34 ACRES.
PARCEL OF LAND ON 6 0 8 WILLOW DRIVE FOR, UH, $56,000 TO THE SOLE BIDDER.
JACOB KEITH, ITEM FOUR, AWARD BID AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT, UH, FOR PHASE THREE CITYWIDE STREET PANEL RE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, UH, FROM THE 2020 BOND PROGRAM, UH, TO HTI CONSTRUCTION FOR $841,871 AND A UH, NOT TO EXCEED, UH, A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION.
ITEM FIVE, AWARD BID NUMBER 2 5 0 0 0 1.
AND AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR DRAINAGE CONTRACT MOWING WITH A SCOTT COMPANY LANDSCAPE FOR SIX SECTION SESSIONS AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $82,200 AS BUDGETED.
ITEM SIX, CONSIDER APPROVING AN UPDATED TRAVEL POLICY, UH, TO REFERENCE FEDERAL RATES FOR MILEAGE AND MEALS AND TO STANDARDIZE THE POLICY OVERALL.
ITEM SIX, CONSIDER APPROVE APPROVING AND UPDATED A RECORD KEEPING POLICY THAT INDICATES REPORTING SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR, UH, INSTEAD OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
ITEM EIGHT, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING AN UPDATED QUARTERLY ACCIDENT ANALYSIS POLICY THAT INDICATES REPORTING SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR INSTEAD OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
ITEM NINE, CONSIDER APPROVING AN AN UPDATED CITY VEHICLE ACCIDENT REPORTING POLICY THAT INDICATES REPORTS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR INSTEAD OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AND ITEM TWO, CONSIDER APPROVING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BRAZORIA COUNTY FOR THE CONTINUED SHARED USE OF THE COUNTY HEALTH CLINIC.
IS THERE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO REMOVE ITEM FOUR FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON REMAINING ITEMS ON CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. MERRILL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS
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ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED ITEMS 1, 2, 3 AND THEN FIVE THROUGH TEN SECOND.WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.
[4. Award bid and authorize the City Manager to execute a contract for the Phase III Citywide Street Panel Reconstruction project from the 2020 Bond Program to HTI Construction for $841,871 and a not-to-exceed total amount of $1,000,000.]
MOVE ITEM FOUR TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM ON REGULAR SESSION.UH, AN AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH, UH, PHASE THREE CITYWIDE STREETS PANEL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT FROM THE 2020 BOND PROGRAM TO HTI CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE ONLY QUESTION I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE COUNCIL WAS THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD, UH, LOOKING AT THE BIDS, THERE WAS A LOCAL BID WAS HIGHER BUT HAD A LOT LONGER DURATION, A SHORTER DURATION TIME.
AND PERHAPS, UH, WE SHOULD CONSIDER DURING OUR BID PACKAGE, I KNOW WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN THIS, THIS BID PACKAGE, BUT FUTURE BID PACKAGES TO INDICATE THE LENGTH OF TIME TO BE A FACTOR IN THE PRICE.
'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LOCAL BUSINESSES GET THIS WORK RATHER THAN OUT OF TOWN BUSINESSES.
AND, UH, AND THE PRICE MAY BE HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE DURATION.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID PER THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WITH THE COUNSEL SOLICITATION.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
AND SO WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR RESTRICTIONS? OR IS IT JUST BY PRICE OR IS IT BY MULTIPLE THINGS? THE BID THAT WE HAVE IT SET, IT IS JUST BY PRICE.
WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A, YOU KNOW, DECISION OR A WAITING FACTOR ON DAYS.
SOMETIMES THAT DOES HAPPEN ON CONSTRUCTION OF BUILDINGS.
UH, SO ON STREET CONSTRUCTION IT COULD BE A, POSSIBLY AS A FACTOR.
THE LAW DOES GIVE US A LEEWAY TO A AWARD TO A LOCAL VETERAN IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT'S 3%.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD MEET THAT COMPLIANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THIS CASE.
AND, AND THE NEXT BIDDER WOULD'VE STILL HAD HAD BEAT THEM, UH, IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, ON ON CALENDAR DAY AS WELL.
BUT IT COULD BE, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND PUT DAY AS A AN ITEM TO, TO WEIGH YEAH.
THAT'S A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF TIME, UH, OBSTRUCTION OF TRAFFIC, UH, AND FLOW AND ISSUES.
AND UH, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MOBILIZATION COST AND DEMOBILIZATION COSTS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT COMES INTO THE FACTOR.
I'M JUST NOT SAYING MAKE ANY CHANGES NOW, JUST FOR FUTURE, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT COST.
BUT THAT'S A CAL, THAT'S A LOT OF DAYS.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT IS A LITTLE BID IS GIVING HIMSELF, UH, SOME TIME BECAUSE OF THE WEATHERS.
UH, JUST IN CASE THE WEATHER, UH, HITS HIM BECAUSE HE WAS AFFECTED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE NORTH SHADY OAKS PROJECT BECAUSE THAT HE HAS RIGHT NOW OR WHETHER HAS BEEN A A A A FACTOR AND THEREFORE HE HAS GIVEN HIMSELF THAT, UH, THAT LEEWAY CON CONSERVATIVELY, UH, FOR FOR CONSERVATIVE MEASURES.
I CAN, I CAN ALMOST ASSURE THAT HE IS NOT GONNA LET THAT THING PROLONG ITSELF BECAUSE TIME NEEDS HIS MONEY.
YOU INCREASING THE IN THE THING.
SO HE WILL BE ATTACKING THAT THING AND I'D BE SURPRISED WHETHER HE NEEDS ALL THAT TIME THAT HE HAS, THAT HE HAS PUT AT IN THERE.
SO HCI IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON PRO PANEL REPLACEMENTS DO A GOOD JOB.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THOUGH IS IS THAT THE REASON WHY THEIR NUMBER OF DAYS MAY BE LESS IS BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE CREWS IN HERE AND ALREADY THAT IS, THAT IS A FACTOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF MATULA HAS GOT ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING IN CITY FOR US RIGHT NOW OR NOT.
SO HE'S DEPLOYED ELSEWHERE SO THAT, THAT COULD BE, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE MIGHT, WE NEED TO JUST SEE IF THERE'S OTHER, IF WE CAN DEFINE OTHER CRITERIA CORRECT.
YEAH, I THINK THE, THE BIG QUESTION IF WE GO FORWARD IS JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WEIGHT DO YOU GIVE TODAY'S VERSUS PRICE? I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY, BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLAR DIFFERENCE.
THERE IS WHAT A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND I WOULD RATHER THEM OVER OVERESTIMATE THE TIME IT'S GONNA COST AND, AND OVER DELIVER THAN SELL US.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT DONE IN 30 DAYS AND IT'LL CALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK AL MAKES A A GOOD OBSERVATION.
OF COURSE WE'RE GUESSING, BUT THEY'RE IN A CURRENT CONTRACT WITH US AND THEY'VE HAD TWO, THEY'VE HAD A HURRICANE THAT'S HIT THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION AND SOME LARGE RAIN.
SO THEY PROBABLY WERE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE THIS TIME ON THE DAY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD AWARD THE MILLION DOLLAR BID, I'M JUST IN BIDDING PROCESS.
THAT MAY HAVE BE A FACTOR WHY THAT BID WAS HIGHER AND IF IT WAS A LOCAL BID.
AND I SAID I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HDI, THEY
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DO A GREAT JOB AND SO DOES MATULA AND MATULA.THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF PANEL REPLACEMENT AS WELL, BUT THAT'S, AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYBODY'S SAYING, BUT I I, IT IS A GOOD POINT TO ME.
IF YOU DISREGARD THE LAKE JACKSON PIECE OF IT, THE SECOND LOWEST BIDDER WAS LESS THAN HALF THE TIME.
AND MY MATH PROBABLY THAT'S A 90 DAYS A THIRD OF THE TIME.
RIGHT? SO A LOT FEWER DAYS AND FOR ANOTHER 54,000.
SO THAT'S NOT QUITE OPTIMISTIC.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT DOES BRING UP THE QUESTION THOUGH.
HOW, HOW TO WHAT EXTENT CAN YOU FACTOR IN THOSE TYPE OF CASES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SECOND LITTLE BIDDER THERE, IT'S AN UNKNOWN FACTOR FOR US.
AND HE DOESN'T REALLY, AND THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO, YOU KNOW, HOW TO WORK UNDER THOSE, UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
SO THERE'S A LOT, LOT OF FACTORS YOU'VE GOTTA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND, UH, ALL THOSE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALMOST EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR, UH, TO TAKE A COAL RIVER AND MATULA, WHICH ARE THE LOCALS, BASICALLY WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.
JUST A POINT OF REFERENCE THOUGH IS THAT'S LIKE, WHAT IS IT, 260 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE MM-HMM
UH, OUR, OUR 3.5 CAP THAT WE HAVE ON PROPERTY TAXES IS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, THAT WE COLLECT ON A 3.5.
SO IT'S, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT $265,000, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, UH, FOR OUR CITY.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP COST OUT.
BUT AGAIN, OVERALL WE LOOK AT THE OPTIONS OVERALL.
OVERALL WE'RE EXTREMELY HAPPY.
WE HAD SEVEN COMPETITIVE BIDS.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WOULD DAYS WHENEVER WE WOULD, WERE SCRAPPING FOR ONE OR TWO, SO CORRECT.
OR GOING OUT AGAIN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET ANY BIDS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RENEE? NOPE, THAT'S IT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YEP.
THAT EVERYTHING IS ON THE LEVEL PLAN.
SO YOU GOT THAT DOWN AS SOMETHING WE'LL, YES, TRY LOOK INTO THE FUTURE.
SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON, UH, ITEM FOUR THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO I'LL MOVE, WE APPROVE THE, UH, ITEM FOUR AS PRESENTED.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HANYA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, I GET STRIKE THE GRAVEL.
[1. Public Hearing to discuss whether to add hospitals as a permitted use to the Oak Woods PUD, which is bounded by Oyster Creek Drive, Circle Way, and Oak Drive. – Sal Aguirre]
INTO REGULAR SESSION.WE'RE GONNA GO OPENING UP A PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, WHAT ARE WE GONNA CALL THIS? UH, EIGHT, UH, 1850 WHAT? 1850.
DEPENDS ON WHOSE CLOCK YOU LOOK AT, UH, TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, UH, TO DISCUSS WHETHER TO ADD HOSPITALS AS A PERMITTED USE, UH, TO THE OAKWOOD POD, UH, WHICH IS BOUND BY OYSTER CREEK DRIVE CIRCLE WAY AND OAK DRIVE.
YOU WANNA START THIS OFF OR? YEAH.
UH, SAL CAN, UH, FILL IN WHERE I MESS UP.
UM, THE SITE WHERE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, ZONING CHAIN IS, IS WHAT WE CALL THE, WE REFER TO AS THE HEB PLANNED UNIT, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
IN, IN THAT, UM, HOSPITALS ARE NOT LISTED AS A BUSINESS TYPE, UM, AS PART OF THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH A LIST OF THE BUSINESSES? MY MEMORY IS WHEN WE WERE NEGOTIATING, WHEN THIS HEIGHT WAS REDEVELOPED WITH, UM, HEB, THEY, THEY TRIED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE B ONE AND OTHER POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY THAT THEY WOULD WANT, UH, NEAR THEM.
AND THEY LISTED THOSE AND THEY MAY HAVE SUBTRACTED, UH, A COUPLE.
AND THAT'S HOW THE LIST WAS, WAS DERIVED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND SO THE PUD WAS THEN SET AS A, AS AN ORDINANCE.
ANYTHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS A CHANGE TO THAT, UM, WOULD NEED TO COME AGAIN BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A CHANGE OF ADDING, UH, TO THE PUD.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE, UH, TRY TO WORK WITH HEB AND ASK THEM, ARE THEY OPEN TO CHANGING, UH, THE PUTT AS WELL.
AND SO THEN WE WOULD, UH, MODIFY THAT AGREEMENT IN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH HEB.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE YET FOR THIS FORMALLY SAYING IT'S OKAY.
SO, SO ARE YOU SAYING WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION TONIGHT? WE CAN DO FIRST READING IF Y'ALL OKAY.
APPROVE THIS, BUT THEN WE'LL HOLD IT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THE P SAL CAN GO INTO THE ACTUAL, UM, REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE.
IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE REQUEST, BUT YOUR CHANGE MEANS A HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THAT ROUNDED TRIANGLE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE WITH THE MM-HMM
AND SO YOU, THE REQUESTER COULD, YOU KNOW, STOP THEIR PROJECT AND, BUT THEN IT WOULD, THE PUDGE IS THEN CHANGED IN ANOTHER HOSPITAL
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DEVELOPMENT ONCE IT OPEN OPENED.WHAT DO WE CONSIDER HOSPITAL OR WE CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THE BIG HOSPITAL WE GOT HERE.
OR IS IT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT RHONDA WORK AT IS THAT IT'S A MICRO, WE'VE GOT REPRESENTATIVES HERE THAT, BUT BASICALLY, I MEAN, YOU GUYS CAN SET YOUR OWN DEFINITION OF HOSPITAL ALSO, AND WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE PUD.
SO, UM, IF YOU WANNA HAVE, UH, THE HOSPITAL AND THE PUD CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF BEDS AND, AND CAN'T, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STATE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAS REQUIREMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF TWO HOSPITAL OBSERVATION TYPE BEDS TO BE, TO EVEN BE LICENSED TO BE A HOSPITAL.
SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW STATE REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE DEFINITIONS TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
I MEAN WE COULD STOP AT THE MINIMUMS OR YOU COULD EXPAND ON THEM.
UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY WHAT'S A HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
AND ISN'T THERE ALREADY A MEDICAL FACILITY OF SOME SORT JUST DOWN FROM THE PIZZA PLACE? HOW WOULD THIS BE DIFFERENT THAN THAT? WELL, AND THAT, THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING SPECIAL IN THIS WOOD.
LET'S, LET'S LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO YOU HAD ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE
UH, MR. WOUNDER SAID, UH, B ONE IN REALITY IS THE UNDERLYING ZONE IS A B TWO, AND THAT'S WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, UNDERLIE OR TAKE, TAKES OVER WHATEVER HAS NOT BEEN, UM, LIMITED JUST TO THAT TRIANGLE OR THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN.
JUST FOR THAT PUD, THAT PUD, WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD, UH, SO COULD YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION? WHAT ZONE DO WE CURRENTLY ALLOW HOSPITAL IN C ONE C TWO ARE THE ONLY ONE.
SO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST.
I'M WITH HIGH CANCER WITH ARCHITECTS.
I'M THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE, UM, PROPOSING IS GOING TO BE ON THE SITE JUST BEHIND HEB.
AND OUR, UH, PROJECT WOULD BE BUILT HERE WITH THE MAIN ROAD OF ACCESS TO THE FACILITY OFF OF THIS SIDE OF, OF OUR SITE.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHAT, WHAT? THERE WAS ANOTHER HEALTHCARE, UH, PROJECT THAT IS CLOSE TO THIS.
IT IS, IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT HERE AND IT'S A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM THAT WAS BEING BUILT BY NEIGHBORS.
UH, ER THAT'S A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM.
UH, A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM DOES, UH, THEY ARE OPERATIONAL 24 7, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT, UH, TRAUMA OR THEY DON'T HAVE SURGERY OR, UH, THEY ALSO DON'T TAKE CARE OF, UH, UH, HIGH TRAUMATIC CASES.
THOSE WOULD ALWAYS GO TO A HOSPITAL LIKE THE ST.
LUKE'S ACROSS THE, THE FREEWAY.
UH, OUR PARTICULAR, AND, AND BY THE WAY, THAT FACILITY CLOSED DOWN NOT BECAUSE OF ANY REASON HERE LOCALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT BECAUSE NEIGHBORS AS A WHOLE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO ALL OF THEIR FACILITIES ACROSS TEXAS, UH, HAVE GONE UNDER.
UM, SO THAT FACILITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT A, UH, HEALTHCARE FACILITY IN THE LAKE JACKSON AREA.
IN FACT, UM, WELL, I HAVE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES COME UP.
UH, WE DID A DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY, UH, FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS.
AND BASED ON THAT DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY, LAKE JACKSON IS THE CENTER POINT OF, UH, THE NEED FOR NEW, UH, HEALTHCARE.
UH, SO, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT STUDY A LITTLE BIT LATER.
UH, OUR PROJECT IS A MICRO HOSPITAL.
UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MICRO HOSPITAL AND A REGULAR ACUTE CARE HOSPITAL IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A SURGICAL COMPONENT THAT'S PART OF THIS.
AND WE ARE A SMALLER FACILITY, SO OUR FOCUS IS THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR, OUR PATIENTS WOULD BE COMING TO THIS FACILITY ARE GONNA BE WALK-IN PATIENTS THAT MIGHT DRIVE THEMSELVES, OR THEY MIGHT HAVE A NEIGHBOR OR A FRIEND OR A, UM, A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WOULD DRIVE THEM TO OUR FACILITY.
THIS FACILITY IS NOT A TRAUMA CENTER, SO THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT'S GONNA BE TAKING AMBULANCE TRAFFIC ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, IF A PATIENT WERE TO BE BROUGHT TO THIS FACILITY, UH, AND THEY NEEDED, UH, A HIGHER, UH, SET OF, OF, UM, UH, ATTENTION THAT THIS FACILITY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM, THEN THIS FACILITY WOULD, UH, STABILIZE THAT PATIENT AND THEN PUT THEM ON AN AMBULANCE TO BE TAKEN TO ST.
BUT THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE MIGHT ONLY HAPPEN A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR.
IT'S NOT A REGULAR THING THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
SO, UM, SO WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE SIRENS, UH, NOISES OR THE, UH, THE LIGHTS OF AN AMBULANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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BE AN ISSUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE, UH, THOSE PATIENTS, IF THEY NEEDED TO BE TRANSPORTED BY AN AMBULANCE, WOULD BE STABILIZED AND THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE THE SIREN AND THE, AND THE LIGHTS IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.UM, AND AS A RULE, BECAUSE THIS IS A PHYSICIAN OWNED, UH, FACILITY BY STATE OF TEXAS LAW, UH, THOSE AMBULANCES THAT ARE COMING FROM ACCIDENTS OR SHOOTING VICTIMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CANNOT STOP HERE.
THEY MUST GO ON TO ANOTHER FACILITY ANYWAYS, UH, BEING IN BYPASS.
SO THIS FACILITY WOULD BE IN BYPASS AND THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE COMING TO THIS FACILITY.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, RENDERING OF WHAT THIS FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, THIS IS THE FRONT, WE HAVE A LARGE DROP OFF CANOPY HERE WHERE MULTIPLE CARS CAN PULL UP UNDER THE FRONT WITH A WATER FOUNTAIN.
UH, THIS IS A DOUBLE STORY ENTRY, UH, GRAND ENTRY IN THE FRONT, UH, WHERE PATIENTS WOULD AND VISITORS WOULD COME.
UM, AND, UH, GO AHEAD, GO TO THE NEXT ELEVATION.
THIS IS A, UH, FROM THE, UH, NORTHEAST OR NORTHWEST SIDE OF OUR SITE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THAT DROP OFF AREA WITH A, UH, A FOUNTAIN IN THE FRONT.
UM, WE ENVISION THIS END OF THE HOSPITAL BEING MORE FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UH, HOSPITALITY WANTS TO GET HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND HOST COMMUNITY EVENTS.
SO WE ARE DESIGNING THIS FACILITY WITH THE ABILITY TO HOST OUTDOOR AND INDOOR EVENTS FROM THAT SIDE OF THE FACILITY.
UM, THE SIDE OF THE, THIS IS GONNA BE THIS SIDE RIGHT HERE WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING THIS LARGE COURTYARD AREA WITH SOME PRIVACY SCREENING.
UH, SO THAT'S, UH, WE ENVISION THAT AS, AS BEING ANOTHER AMENITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
AND, UH, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE FLOOR PLAN, BUT, UH, OVERALL THIS IS A FACILITY THAT'S GOT, UM, UH, 22 BEDS IN THE ED FOR OBSERVATION AND EMERGENCY ROOM PATIENTS.
WE KNOW WE GO, WHICH IS THIS SIDE, THIS HALF OF THE HOSPITAL IS EMERGENCY ROOM, AND THEN ACROSS THE BACK IS THE NURSE UNIT, TWO BEDS, WHICH MEETS THE STATEMENT AND REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, OR EXCUSE ME, AN IMAGING DEPARTMENT THAT'S IN THE BACK OVER HERE WITH, UM, MRI CT SCAN, PLAINVIEW IMAGING, ULTRASOUND.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE FULL ABILITY FOR IMAGING HERE LOCALLY AND IT CAN BE USED FOR OUTPATIENT IMAGING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR SUPPORT SPACES, PHARMACY, LAB, UH, ADMIN SPACE BACK OF THE HOUSE, UH, ENGINEERING SPACE, UH, UH, SHIPPING AND RECEIVING, UH, DIETARY.
WE DO HAVE A FULL KITCHEN, UH, HERE WITH THE DINING AREA, UH, FOR PATIENTS AND VISITORS AS THEY COME TO THE HOSPITAL.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE OF IT? NO, SIR.
IS IT JUST ONE STORY? THE REST OF IT? CURRENTLY IT IS A SINGLE STORY BUILDING.
WE ARE PLANNING A STRUCTURALLY TO BE ABLE TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR.
UM, AND SO IT'S BEING DESIGNED WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OFF A ROOF OR ROOF STRUCTURE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TECHNICALLY A, A SOLID FLOOR SO THAT DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE DECIDE TO ADD ONTO IT, WE CAN EASILY ADD ON WITHOUT DISRUPTING PATIENT, UH, ACCESS TO THE FACILITY ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU IMAGINE BEING ON THAT SECOND FLOOR? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, IT COULD BE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE MAY WANT TO EXPAND BEDS.
UM, IF YOU WERE TO MAX OUT THE ENTIRE FIRST, UH, SECOND FLOOR, THEN WE MIGHT GET TO ABOUT 28 BEDS.
SO IT'S STILL NOT A BIG NUMBER OF BEDS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
UH, CERTAINLY MORE THAN TWO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
BUT DEPENDING ON, UH, HOW THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS GO WITH, UH, WHAT THE DEMAND IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WE MAY END UP ADDING SURGERY, UH, OR SURGERY AND BEDS OR MORE OUTPATIENT OBSERVATION.
UH, COULD BE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.
AND I, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, JEANIE.
SHE IS THE CEO OF HOSPITALITY, AND DR. KELLY IS ONE OF THE PARTNERS, AND JEANIE CAN EXPLAIN THE HISTORY AND ALSO EXPLAIN, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU PROVIDE AND WHAT THE NEIGHBOR'S MODEL IT WAS.
I AM THE CO-FOUNDER OF HOSPITALITY HEALTH ER, AND AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS FACILITY, I'M THINKING IT LOOKS KIND OF SMALL BECAUSE I SAY THAT BECAUSE OUR FIRST THAT WE OPENED IN LONGVIEW, WE THOUGHT WE WERE BUILDING BIG ENOUGH.
AND WE'VE DONE FOUR EXPANSIONS ALREADY.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR NOT ONLY US, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S OUR CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF ALL OF, UH, HOSPITALITIES.
UH, HE'S VERY FORWARD THINKING.
WE DO THINGS A LOT DIFFERENTLY.
THE, UH, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT NEIGHBOR'S BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO AND IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF SMALL.
IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS ROOM TO EXPAND.
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UM, AND THEN, SO IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS WORKING OUT FOR US, BUT WE WAS LOOKING FOR A GOOD LOCATION.AND WE, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN SHOPPING FOR A WHILE NOW AND LOOKING AROUND AND WE COME ACROSS THIS LOCATION WHICH WE LOVED.
AND SO, UH, WE ARE GONNA BE A FULL-BLOWN HOSPITAL.
AND I'M THINKING THAT WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA WANT SURGERY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I MET A SURGEON HERE IN TOWN AND HE SEEMS LIKE SUCH A GREAT GUY, AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT PARTNERING WITH HIM.
IF WE CAN GET SURGERY THERE, THEN ALMOST ANYTHING THAT SHOWS UP AT OUR DOOR, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF.
OUR DOCTORS ARE EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIANS.
IF WE HAVE, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED AT OUR OTHER FACILITIES, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY DRIVE UP TO YOUR DOOR WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND AND, AND SOMEBODY DRAGS THEM INSIDE, THEN WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM.
SO OUR DOCTORS ARE THE SAME DOCTORS THAT WORK IN THE BIG HOSPITAL IN THE ER.
THEY JUST HAPPEN TO WORK IN OUR BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF TAKING WHATEVER WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR, HEART ATTACK, STROKES.
IN FACT, WE GET PATIENTS CARE MUCH FASTER WITH HEART ATTACK.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR HEART ATTACKS AND STROKES, SO YOU HAVE TO GET 'EM IN THAT WINDOW.
AND WE'RE MUCH FASTER AT GETTING THOSE THINGS TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE WE DON'T CALL OUR LOBBY A WAITING ROOM FOR A REASON, BECAUSE WE TRY NOT TO MAKE ANYBODY WAIT.
WE TRY TO GET 'EM BACK IMMEDIATELY, GET THEM TO SEE THE DOCTOR, UH, IMMEDIATELY.
UM, SO HOW MANY OF THESE FACILITIES YOU HAVE TODAY? I HAVE CO-FOUNDED FOUR.
I OPENED MY FIRST ONE IN BAYTOWN.
IT'S CALLED PATIENT ER, IT'S, UM, 2014.
UH, AND THEN 2015 I OPENED, UH, LONGVIEW, TEXAS HOSPITALITY HEALTH, ER, APRIL AND 2016 WAS TYLER, UH, HOSPITALITY ER.
AND THEN IN 2018 WAS GALVESTON.
SO MY PHILOSOPHY IS, LET ME MAKE THIS ONE REALLY SUCCESSFUL BEFORE I MOVE TO THIS ONE.
I THINK THEY WENT OUTTA BUSINESS, BUT THEY OPENED UP 31 FACILITY IN, IN 18 MONTHS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO BUILD A LOT OF THEM VERY QUICKLY.
UM, THE THREE HOSPITALITIES THAT WE OWN WAS SEEING MORE PATIENTS OUT OF THOSE THREE FACILITIES THAN ALL 31 OF THEIR FACILITIES PUT TOGETHER.
SO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE EACH FACILITY EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL BEFORE WE START MOVING ON.
THAT'S THE REASON SINCE 2018, WE HAVEN'T OPENED ANYTHING AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AND THIS IS WHERE WE THINK THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. SHE, WHAT'S YOUR BACKGROUND? I AM AN EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE.
I STARTED OFF IN THE HOSPITAL, HCA HOSPITAL WORK IN THE ER.
AND THEN HCO OPENED UP A FREESTANDING, I MOVED INTO THEIR FREESTANDING.
AND THEN ONE OF THE DOCTORS RECRUITED ME BECAUSE HE WAS OPENING UP HIS OWN FREESTANDING ER IN HOUSTON IN RICE VILLAGE.
AND HE TOOK ME OVER THERE TO BE HIS ADMINISTRATOR.
I WORKED THERE IT SEEMED LIKE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
MY DAUGHTER CAME IN FROM UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, STARTED DOING MARKETING, AND BASICALLY WE TRIPLED THE VOLUME WITHIN A FEW MONTHS.
AND SO WE REALIZED WE WERE ONTO SOMETHING LIKE, WE CAN, WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, WE CAN DO THIS.
SO WE DECIDED, FAST FORWARD FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WE DECIDED TO OPEN UP OUR FIRST ER AND OUR HOMETOWN, WHICH IS BAYTOWN.
WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
MYSELF AND ANOTHER NURSE, JONATHAN BOHANNON, WERE THE CO-FOUNDERS.
AND SO TYPICALLY A TYPICAL FREE STANDING ER SEES ABOUT 11 PATIENTS A DAY.
AND SO WHEN I OPENED UP BAYTOWN THE FIRST DAY, WE SAY SAW NINE, WE'VE LIVED THERE 30 YEARS, LIKE WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO IT WAS, AND IT WAS THE, THE TALK OF THE TOWN.
SO WE SAW NINE, THE NEXT DAY WE SAW 16, THE NEXT DAY WE SAW 22.
AND WE'RE LIKE, WE GOTTA FIND ANOTHER LOCATION.
LIKE, IT JUST STARTED BLOWING UP.
AND SO WHEN A TYPICAL FREE STANDING ER SEES 11 PATIENTS A DAY, SEEING 22 ON THE THIRD DAY, WE REALIZED THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE A NICHE HERE.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S HOW I, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DETAILS I LEFT OUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT CATAPULTED ME INTO THIS AREA OF WANTING TO DO THIS BUSINESS.
PLUS, I'M A NURSE AND I WATCHED IN THE ER HOW PATIENTS KIND OF GET HERDED IN LIKE CATTLE, LIKE CATTLE.
AND, UH, I WAS ALWAYS VERY, BY NATURE, I'M NURTURING.
I WAS A, I WAS A SINGLE MOM FOR FOUR YEARS AND I WENT BACK TO GET MY NURSING DEGREE WHEN I WAS 40.
SO, UM, I AM A MOTHER FIRST AND I'M VERY NURTURING AND I LIKE TO TREAT MY PATIENTS LIKE, LIKE I WOULD TREAT MY FAMILY OR MY CHILDREN.
AND I REALLY DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO DO THAT WHEN I WAS IN, UH, THE HOSPITAL.
SO WHEN I WORKED IN THE FIRST FREESTANDING ER WITH, WITH THE DOCTOR, I REALIZED THEY DID A LOT OF THINGS GREAT.
BUT WHEN I WOULD GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, IF WE COULD DO IT LIKE
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THIS, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER.OR IF WE COULD DO IT, UH, OUR BILLING AND OUR INSURANCE, IF WE COULD TWEAK IT AND DO IT THIS WAY, IT'D BE SO MUCH BETTER.
BUT AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE TOO BUSY TO LISTEN, AND I JUST KNEW WE COULD DO IT BETTER.
SO I TOOK WHAT I LEARNED, PUT MY OWN TWIST TO IT, AND OPENED UP OUR OWN ERS.
AND THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.
BUT WE WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL IF I HADN'T RUN INTO REALLY GREAT DOCS LIKE DR. KELLY.
KELLY'S VERY FORWARD THINKING.
HE DOES THINGS FOR OUR PATIENTS THAT, UH, NO OTHER DOCTOR TAKES TIME TO DO.
AND, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT TEAMS, UM, WHAT DO YOU DO TO, I MEAN, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE, UH, AT WITH PLANNERS WAS, IS THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF, UH, NURSING AND DOCTORS IN THIS AREA IS PRETTY SLIM.
SO WHENEVER YOU BRING IN AN OPERATION LIKE THIS, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU STAFF IT? WHAT'S YOUR, YOUR PROTOCOL FOR STAFFING OR HOW DO YOU STAFF IT? WELL, I'VE ALREADY, JUST BY WORD OF MOUTH, ALREADY HAVE A, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AREA TO GO TO WORK FOR US.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO, THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO RECRUIT FROM, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING TOWNS RIGHT? AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, OUR DOCTORS, UM, STAFFING GROUP, HE CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT AT MY OTHER FACILITIES, WE LITERALLY HAVE SOME DOCTORS THAT, UH, COME IN FROM FLORIDA AND COLORADO AND WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
THEY FLY IN FOR A WEEK AND WORK A WEEK AND THEN THEY'LL GO HOME OR THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS FORM A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DOCTORS IN THIS TOWN AND HAVE THEM, UH, BE PART OF THIS, OR AT LEAST PARTNER WITH US.
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S THE SAME DOCTORS THAT YOU SEE IN THE MEDICAL CENTER THAT WORK FOR US, THAT'S NOT QUITE THAT SIMPLE.
IT'S BASICALLY THE CREAM OF THE CROP WHO IS WILLING TO ADAPT AND LEARN HOW TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE KEEP.
SO IF WE HAVE THOSE DOCTORS HERE, OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE ONES TO USE.
BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA PRACTICE IN THE OLD WAYS WHERE THEY'RE ONLY, YOU KNOW, GONNA WORK FOR THIS FINITE PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN NOT, KIND OF NOT WORRY ABOUT PATIENTS OR NOT FOLLOW UP ON PATIENTS AND NOT PRACTICE OUR WAYS, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECRUIT OTHER DOCTORS.
AND SO YES, WE DO HAVE OTHER DOCTORS THAT COME IN FROM, UH, FLORIDA AND COLORADO AND THE EAST COAST, AND SOME OF THOSE HAVE RELOCATED TO OUR TYLER TOWN OR IN LONGVIEW.
SO WE, WE TEND TO RECRUIT AND USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS RECRUIT ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AND THEN THEY GO BACK HOME AND THEY SAY, THERE'S THIS PLACE I'M WORKING AT TEXAS, AND THEN THEY DO ALL THE RECRUITING FOR US.
SO WORD OF MOUTH HAS BEEN REALLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WAY THAT WE, WE STAFF IT.
I KEEP HEARING YOU BOTH SAY YOU DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR YOU HAVE TO ADAPT TO A NEW WAY.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT CUSTOMER? WHAT'S WHAT? CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN YOUR TREATMENT OF YOUR PATIENTS? YEAH, SO I MEAN, CUSTOMER SERVICE, IS IT, I MEAN, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.
UH, WHEN WE ADMIT SOMEBODY TO THE HOSPITAL FOR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY GOT A DIABETIC COMPLICATION OR THEY NEED SURGERY, WE'RE VISITING THAT PATIENT IN THE HOSPITAL MAKING, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S GOING WELL.
WE, WE BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TUCKED IN EITHER WITH FOLLOW UP OR WHATEVER ACUTE CARE SETTING WE HAVE TO SET THEM IN THAT THEY'RE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
AND SO, UM, WE FOUND THIS, THAT AT EACH CITY, WE, WE BASICALLY START THAT THE SURROUNDING HOSPITALS, THE SURROUNDING ERS, THEY BASICALLY UP THEIR GAME.
'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE, WE'RE HITTING ON SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT HITTING ON.
OTHER SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE DO THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYWHERE ELSE.
WE OFFER A LOT OF, UM, SERVICES THAT WE DON'T CHARGE FOR, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UH, ALTERNATIVE PAIN TREATMENT WITH, UH, MILD THERAPISTS OR LIKE MASSAGE THERAPISTS THAT, UH, TREAT PAIN.
UH, WE DO NON-NARCOTIC APPROACHES TO PAIN CONTROL, UH, WITH, UH, SOME CERTAIN DEVICES AND MACHINES THAT WE USE.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING THAT WE DO.
UH, MY PHILOSOPHY HAS ALWAYS BEEN TREAT THE SYMPTOMS. SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST WAY TO PAINT A PICTURE, IF I HAVE A MOTHER THAT WALKS IN AND SHE HAS A 4-YEAR-OLD AND A 2-YEAR-OLD, AND SHE IS RED IN THE FACE WITH FEVER AND SHE IS STRUGGLING TO TAKE CARE OF HER CHILDREN, WE WILL HAVE ONE OF OUR, OUR PATIENT ADVOCATES COME GET THE BABIES AND TAKE 'EM OVER HERE AND COLOR WITH THEM AND PLAY WITH THEM.
AND OB OCCUPY THE CHILDREN WHILE WE GET THE MOTHER FEELING BETTER.
SO LET'S, LET'S JUST SAY SHE HAS THE FLU OR SHE HAS COVID OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S GOING AROUND, YOU COULD EASILY WRITE HER A PRESCRIPTION FOR TAMMY FLU OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND SHE COULD GO HOME AND TAKE IT, BUT SHE'S GOTTA LEAVE AND GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE TWO BABIES, RIGHT? SO MY PHILOSOPHY IS GET THE MOTHER FEELING BETTER SO SHE CAN GO FINISH HER DAY.
I USED TO HATE IT WHEN I TAKE MY
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KIDS TO THE DOCTOR AND THEY'D GIVE 'EM TYLENOL OR MOTRIN AND SEND THEM HOME.SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE WILL TAKE THAT MOTHER AND GIVE HER FLUID, GIVE HER, UM, YOU KNOW, A VITAMIN BAG, GIVE HER THINGS TO MAKE HER FEEL BETTER, TREAT HER TEMPERATURE, GIVE HER, WE GIVE 'EM TORADOL, WHATEVER HER BODY ACHES HER.
MAYBE SHE MAY HAVE A HIGH, UH, A HEADACHE BECAUSE SHE HAS, UH, HIGH FEVER, THOSE SORT OF THINGS.
AND THEN WHEN SHE LEAVES, SHE FEELS LIKE SHE CAN GO HOME AND FINISH HER DAY AND TAKE CARE OF HER BABIES.
SO I DON'T, LIKE IN THE HOSPITAL, I SAW SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE WOULD WALK IN WITH SYMPTOMS AND THE, AND THE NURSES OR THE DOCTORS, THEY'D BE LIKE, THEY SAID THEIR PAIN IS EIGHT.
LOOK AT 'EM, THEY'RE TALKING ON THEIR PHONE AND LAUGHING.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERSON FEELS OR THAT PERSON IS, IS FEELING REALLY POORLY.
AND IT, IT GETS THE, THE SYMPTOMS GET DIMINISHED IN A LOT OF PLACES THAT I HAVE WORKED.
SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS LISTEN TO THE PATIENT, BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY AND TAKE CARE OF THEM AND NOT DIMINISH THEIR COMPLAINTS OKAY.
AND GET 'EM FEELING BETTER WHEN THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR.
UM, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IN THE, THE HOSPITALITY, THE REASON WHY THEY CALL HOSPITALITY, WE, THE WAY WE ARE DESIGNING THIS, OVER HALF OF THE OBSERVATION ROOMS IN THE ED HAVE PRIVATE RESTROOMS. SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE FROM JUST HOW WE DESIGN HOSPITALS IN GENERAL.
I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER IN HEALTHCARE NOTHING BUT HEALTHCARE DESIGNING HOSPITALS.
I'VE NEVER DESIGNED A HOSPITAL WITH THIS TYPE OF PATIENT CARE IN MIND.
UM, THE IN, IN THE ED, THE OBSERVATION ROOMS AND THE EXAM ROOMS ARE VERY MUCH LIKE A, A NURSE UNIT WHERE PATIENTS ARE STAYING FOR 24 HOURS A DAY.
SO NOT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY IN THE ED, BUT WE'RE DESIGNING TO THAT LEVEL OF DESIGN.
UM, EVERY ROOM IS, HAS, UH, A UNDER KIND OF REFRIGERATOR.
UH, IT'S GOT REFRESHMENTS AND FOOD THAT THEY DON'T CHARGE FOR.
IT'S NOT LIKE A HOTEL WHERE YOU, YOU GET CHARGED EVERY TIME YOU TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
IT'S JUST THERE AND IT'S THERE FOR THEIR USE.
UH, I'VE NEVER DESIGNED A FACILITY LIKE THIS WHERE I'VE GOT MORE STORAGE ROOM DEDICATED FOR, UM, COLORED PJS AND GAINS FOR KIDS AND AMENITIES FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THERE AS PATIENTS, BUT THAT THEY'RE VISITING.
UH, IT'S, UH, THE, UH, THAT JUST GOES TO WHAT THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS AND HOW THEY, UH, DELIVER THAT PATIENT CARE EXPERIENCE.
MY PHILOSOPHY IS NOT TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
WHEN A PATIENT LEAVES MY FACILITY, I DON'T WANT THEM TO SAY, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT TO BLOW PEOPLE AWAY THESE DAYS.
AND YOU, IT IS NOT THAT THINGS THAT WE HAND THEM A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, GIFT BAG WITH HONEY IN IT OR SOME LIP BALM OR SOMETHING WHEN THEY LEAVE.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S THE GREAT MEDICAL CARE THAT OUR DOCTORS GIVE THAT PATIENTS WHILE THEY'RE THERE.
OUR DOCTORS SIT DOWN, LISTEN TO THE PATIENTS AND TAKE TIME.
SO WE'VE HAD A FEW DOCTORS THAT DON'T WORK FOR US ANYMORE, AND THE REASON THEY DON'T WORK FOR US ANYMORE IS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T WILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS.
SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO BE NICE, KIND HUMANS TO WORK FOR US.
IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN YOU CAN MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS HAVING OUR MEDICAL STAFF THAT CARES.
I WOULD, THE IDEA I THINK WAS PRESENTED, MAYBE WE SHOULD, UH, RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF BEDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA BECAUSE EVERYWHERE WE GO THERE'S A, A NEED FOR GROWTH AND, AND SOMETHING THAT'S UNEXPECTED.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE AS WELL.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE FOOT FOOTPRINT, UH, AND THEN I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO EXPAND SOME ASPECT OF IT.
WAIT, CAN Y'ALL EXPLAIN, I MEAN, YOU SAID NO GUNSHOTS AND YOU'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE PASSED BY AND YOU SAID YOU COULD HANDLE GUNSHOTS.
WHICH ONE IS IT? WHAT HAPPENS IS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR USUALLY AT THE, OF THE, UM, AMBULANCE COMPANIES, WHOEVER THEY ARE, WHETHER IT'S THE, UM, GALVESTON COUNTY OR BRAZORIA COUNTY, WHICHEVER AMBULANCE, THEIR MEDICAL DIRECTOR GIVES THEM DIRECTIONS, THEIR DIRECTION FROM THEIR MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS IF YOU GET A 9 1 1 CALL, YOU GO TAKE 'EM TO THE MAJOR HOSPITAL.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY US THAT SAYS DON'T BRING 'EM HERE.
IT'S THE, THE, THEY'RE DIRECTED BY THEIR OWN MEDICAL DIRECTOR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LAWS THAT GOVERN THAT AS FAR AS THE AMBULANCE COMPANIES ARE CONCERNED, BUT, UM, WELL, I THINK, I THINK WHAT THE, UH, WHAT WAS SAID WAS IS THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL DRIVES UP WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GUNSHOT AND DRAGS 'EM THROUGH YOUR DOOR, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, OF COURSE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I'VE TAKEN CARE OF THREE GUNSHOT WOUNDS IN THE LAST YEAR AND WE TAKE CARE OF 'EM.
YOU KNOW, WE DO WHAT, WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE'VE GOTTA DO, WE STABILIZE THE PATIENT AND WE SEND 'EM TO THE TRAUMA CENTER MM-HMM
WELL THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES SENSE.
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SO IT'S NOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT, UM, A MICRO HOSPITAL.IT'S JUST STARTING SMALL AND Y'ALL WANNA GO BIGGER.
IS THERE A I'M, CAN Y'ALL EXPLAIN THAT? I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
WHEN YOU SAY MICROBE, IT SOUNDS LITTLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
'CAUSE THE STATE SAYS YOU HAVE TO START WITH TWO INPATIENT BEDS, BUT, UM, THERE'S REALLY TWO KIND OF HOSPITALS.
THERE IS A GENERAL HOSPITAL AND THERE'S A SPECIALTY HOSPITAL, EXCUSE ME MA'AM, WHERE THIS NAME MIGHT, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? YES.
SO THERE'S TWO KIND OF HOSPITALS AS FAR AS THE STATE'S CONCERNED.
THERE'S AN, UH, A GENERAL HOSPITAL AND A SPECIALTY HOSPITAL.
THIS TERM MICRO HOSPITAL WAS COINED BY THE INDUSTRY, I BELIEVE.
SO WE ARE STARTING OFF WITH TWO BEDS OUT OF HOW MANY 20, UH, 20 TOTAL THAT IS DESIGNATED AS WHAT THEY CALL INPATIENT BEDS, WHERE YOU CAN KEEP PATIENTS TWO OR THREE DAYS AT A TIME.
UM, BUT WE CAN CONVERT THOSE OTHER BEDS.
THEY, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WINDOW.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THEY HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BE AN INPATIENT BED.
AT ANY POINT WE CAN CONVERT THOSE OTHER TWO BEDS.
UH, THE REST OF THE BEDS THAT HAVE A WINDOW AND THAT SORT OF THING.
WE CAN CONVERT THOSE TO INPATIENT BEDS OR WE CAN KEEP PATIENTS FOR MORE THAN 24 HOURS.
AND KIND OF TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ALSO, JUST WHAT GETS TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE ARE STATE LAWS AGAIN, THAT KIND OF GO INTO EFFECT.
I WANT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 250 FEET OR 250 YARDS IF SOMEBODY PULLS UP ON, ON YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS, IF YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF IT OR NOT, THEY'RE, THAT IS YOUR PATIENT.
SO THEY, I'M JUST, THEY CAN'T BE TURNED, TURNED AWAY.
WANT IT TO KNOW HOW BIG THIS IS AND HOW BIG IT CAN GET.
AND BECAUSE THEY NEED, Y'ALL NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE Y'ALL NEED TO CONSIDER, LIKE I SAID, THESE PEOPLE SOUND ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, BUT YOU'RE VOTING ON A GENERIC, WELL, AGAIN, GENERIC WE COULD, LIKE YOU SAID IS, IS THAT WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THE CHANGING OF THE PUD, WE COULD RESTRICT IT TO WHICH OF THE TWO CATEGORIES, WHICH IS THE SMALLER CATEGORY THAT YOU JUST SAID.
THE GENERAL OR GENERAL, THE, UH, SPECIALTY HOSPITAL S SO WE COULD RESTRICT THE P TO SPECIALTY HOSPITALS AND THAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM HAVING A A HUNDRED BED HOSPITAL COME IN THERE.
NO, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULD BE MORE GENERAL, NOT SPECIALTY, SPECIALTY'S GONNA HAVE YOUR SURGERY, YOUR NEURO, ALL THOSE THINGS.
INITIALLY THIS IS DEFINITELY A SPECIALTY HOSPITAL BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE SURGERY PROPOSAL.
SO WE THAT BE CAREFUL IF SURGERY THREE, DOES THAT MAKE US A YES.
A GENERAL, WE COULD CONVERT TO A GENERAL POINT.
SO THAT'S, WE WOULDN'T WANNA RESTRICT, WE WANNA RESTRICT, YOU COULD RESTRICT, YOU COULD RESTRICT YOUR NUMBER OF BEDS.
WE WERE ALREADY IN A PO ALREADY TOLD MANY TIMES THAT WE'RE, THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF OBGYN SERVICES IN THIS TOWN.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ONLY RESTRICTED TO A SPECIALTY, WE CAN'T EVEN ENTERTAIN THAT IDEA.
YOU KNOW, THE, IF THE BUSINESS MODEL SUPPORTS IT AND THE AREA PEOPLE WANT TO GO THERE, THEN WE SHOULD NOT BE THE ONES WHO TELL THEM THEY CAN'T.
SO WE SHOULD, UH, MAKE THEIR AVAILABILITY TO THEM, WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WHAT THEY CAN, THIS AREA CAN SUPPORT THAT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW WHAT SHERRY'S COUNSELING US ON? WHAT SHE SHOULD AS THE CITY ATTORNEY IS, IS THAT AGAIN, YOUR MODEL LOOKS GREAT TO US, COULD LOOK GREAT TO US LOOK OKAY.
BUT AGAIN, IT COULD ALL FOLD UP TOMORROW.
YOU COULD DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT OR WHATEVER.
AND SO IF WE CHANGE THIS PUD IT OPENS THE DOOR UP SO THAT NOT ONLY YOU COULD COME IN, BUT ANY OTHER VACANT PROPERTY COULD BE ANOTHER HOSPITAL COULD COME IN THERE.
AND SO THAT'S JUST ALL WE HAVE TO, 'CAUSE WE'RE CHANGING IT FOR THAT P FOR THAT WHOLE AREA.
AND, UM, THAT'S JUST, JUST ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO UH, UNDERSTAND IS, IS THAT WE OPEN UP FOR ONE, WE OPEN UP FOR, FOR MORE.
MY QUESTION, UH, TO YOU WOULD BE IF WE DO RESTRICT IT AND THEN WE GET IN THERE AND EVERY, THE COMMUNITY LOVES US AND IT BLOWS UP AND WE NEED MORE, MORE SPACE, CAN YOU UNRESTRICT IT? YOU WOULD'VE TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER CHANGE? YEAH.
BUT CAN YOU UNDO IT? YEAH, BUT I, BUT I THINK THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE IS WE NEED TO, TO SEE IF WE CAN, IF WE ARE AGREEABLE THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
WOULD THIS PROJECT USE UP ALL OF THE UNDEVELOPED SPACE THAT'S LEFT OUT THERE? OR NO? HOW MUCH WOULD BE, YOU'RE JUST TAKING, I'M TRYING TO THINK BECAUSE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES, THE PROPERTY WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE.
THERE'S A AND WHAT, WHAT USE DO YOU HAVE FOR PROPO DOWN THE ROAD PROPOSING FOR THAT? RIGHT NOW? WE, RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A USE PLAN FOR THAT.
THAT, SO WOULD IT BE STILL HEALTHCARE, UH, HOSPITAL TYPE OR YOU IT COULD BE, OR MAYBE RETAIL, MAYBE RESTAURANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE IN SUPPORT OF, I'M SORRY, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPACE HERE? YES.
WOULD Y'ALL OWN THAT THOUGH? THEY DO OWN THAT, YES.
THEY OWN THAT A WHOLE, BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS LINE HERE WOULD BE THE FORD, THE, THE OIL CHANGE PLACE AND TRYING TO GET ORIENTED BECAUSE OVER,
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WE DON'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE AT.THE OIL CHANGE PLACE SITS RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THEN ABOVE THAT UP HERE IS GONNA BE THAT NEIGHBOR'S NO STRIP CENTER.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A PLACE TO BUILD ANOTHER BIG HOSPITAL.
UP OR JUST HOW YOU'VE DESIGNED THE BUILDING.
THEY COULD GO UP, BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IF ANOTHER HOSPITAL, IF YOU'D HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND SAY, WELL, I WANNA BUY SOME OTHER LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE AND I WANNA PUT A HOSPITAL IN TOO.
BUT THERE'S NO LAND, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACREAGE LEFT TO DO ANYTHING.
I THINK THAT THERE IS A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE OVERALL HED TRIANGLE AND THEN ON THE HEIGHT PIECE, THEY'D STILL BE, THEY HAVE OTHER HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD APPLY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PUD SAYS.
ISN'T THERE LIKE, WELL WE HAVE A HEIGHT RESTRICTION.
THERE THE ONLY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS IS ALONG WELL WITH THE TVS AND BUILDING IS BEING BUILT.
THAT'S THE ONLY HEIGHT RESTRICTION.
BUT WE HAVE HIGH RESTRICTIONS ON, HIGH RESTRICTIONS ARE BASED ON THE B TWO ZONE.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HIGH RESTRICTIONS ON, UH, I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEYOND CI MEAN ANY, I THINK THERE IS HIGH RESTRICTIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR FLOOD AND IT'S PROBABLY 50.
YEAH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, WE, WE LIMITED IT TO, UH, A, I MEAN WE HAD A HOTEL RIGHT THERE.
MY RECOLLECTION IS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THERE IS A HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF YES.
SO, UM, WE ARE GOING 18 FEET FLOOR TO FLOOR SO THAT IF WE DID GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WE'D ALREADY BE AT THREE SIX, RIGHT? MM-HMM
IF WE DIDN'T WENT A THIRD FLOOR, WE'D BE ABOVE THAT.
SO WE'RE MAXED OUT AT TWO, TWO STORIES.
WHAT IS RIGHT HERE? WHAT'S RIGHT HERE? NOW? UM, THERE IS A SAVINGS ALONE AND A, IN A, UH, HOTEL THAT WAS BUILT.
NOW WHAT'S RIGHT HERE? TDC, NEW TDC BUILDING.
NOW IS THIS THE HOTEL THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY? NO, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THIS POT, THERE IS A CHICKEN EXPRESS OIL CHANGE PLACE HERE.
AND THEN RETAIL SPACE THAT STRETCHES ALL ACROSS HERE.
SO THIS IS ALREADY ALL BUILT OUT HERE? YEP.
SO MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT IF THE, IF THE FACILITY IS GROWING AND WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT WE START RUNNING OUT OF PARKING.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE CAREFUL NOT TO BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT OTHER LAND.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY WE END UP NEEDING MORE PARKING.
THAT SEEMS TO BE OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I OKAY.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK.
SO LET THAT, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS ONE COMMENT ABOUT, UH, HEB.
WE HAVE HEB HAS REVIEWED THIS.
UH, AND, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEED RESTRICTIONS MM-HMM
THAT WE ALSO, UH, NEED TO MEET AS WELL.
SO, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A LETTER FROM HEB WITH THAT FORMAL ACCEPTANCE BY THE 17TH.
SO WE WILL HAVE THAT BY THE 17.
MARY, CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, UH, CITIZEN, UM, COMES UP, UH, WE KIND OF, WE REFER TO IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IT ON THE LIST.
UH, OUT OF THE PUD, THE PUD GIVES OTHER USES IN ADDITION TO THE B TWO.
BUT I WANT TO QUICKLY READ WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE B TWO.
UH, BECAUSE THESE ARE PERMITTED IN THIS ZONE.
OFFICE AND OFFICE BUILDINGS, MEDICAL OFFICE OFFICES, STUDIOS, RETAIL SHOPS, SERVICE SHOPS, DRIVE-IN EATING PLACES, GROCERIES, DAYCARE CENTER, AUTO REPAIR SHOPS, NEWSPAPER, AUTO DEALERS, HOTELS, THEATERS, MOTELS, BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, TATTOO STUDIOS, MOBILE FOOD SERVICE, VENDOR COURTS, AND RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES.
THOSE ARE ALL PERMITTED IN, UH, THE B TWO IN ADDITION, UM, TO THE ONES LISTED.
UH, IN, IN THE, AND THE PUD ON THIS LIST, CONDITIONAL USES ARE ALSO ALLOWED, BUT THESE WOULD'VE TO BE APPROVED.
BOWING ALLEY AND OTHER RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, CLINICS, AND SUPERVISED LIVING FACILITIES, CHURCHES, AND SPECIAL EVENT AND VENUES, UH, NO FUNERAL HOMES.
AND THIS IS JUST FOR A CHANGE TO THIS PUT NOT TO ALL OF B TWO.
ALL THE, UH, HEB PROPERTIES OR PREVIOUSLY OWNED THE HEB PROPER.
SO WE HAVE, UH, ALAN, THAT, THAT WAS ME.
CAN I ASK WHOEVER SPEAKS, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC? SURE.
BECAUSE I'LL MAKE SURE I'LL SPEAK TO MIKE.
I LIVE AT 1 1 16 INDIAN WARRIOR TRAIL.
AND I GUESS A COUPLE OF Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT'S THIS BEARD GUY WHO KEEPS SHOWING UP AT ALL THESE MEETINGS? UH, THE REASON IS THAT, UM, I KNOW JEANNIE, UM, BUT I'M NOT HERE ON BEHALF OF HER COMPANY.
I'M ALSO ON THE LAKE JACKSON EMS BOARD, BUT I'M NOT HERE ON THE BOARD EITHER.
UM, I'M THE FORMER PAST PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION
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OF FREESTANDING ERS.I LIVE HERE IN LAKE JACKSON, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HEALTHCARE AND, UH, FREESTANDING ERS, MICRO HOSPITALS AND GENERAL HOSPITALS.
I CURRENTLY HAVE A COMPANY THAT DOES CONSULTING FOR ALL OF THOSE.
AND SO I WANTED TO COME AND, UH, SPEAK BECAUSE I DIDN'T SPEAK AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, COMMISSION.
THE REASON I DIDN'T IS 'CAUSE, UM, I WASN'T SURE IF I SHOULD.
SO I WENT AHEAD AND DECIDED I SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INACCURACIES THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING.
AND EVEN IN THE MEAN TODAY, I THINK SOME OF IT GOT CLARIFIED AND CLEANED UP.
UM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN REGARDS TO HOW TO OPERATE A FREESTANDING ER, HOW TO OPERATE A MICRO HOSPITAL.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, A GENERAL HOSPITAL, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN I OPENED UP THE ALTUS FACILITY.
I'M NO LONGER WITH THAT FACILITY ANY LONGER.
UM, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDED THAT FACILITY AND NEEDS HEALTHCARE.
AND TODAY, I CAN SAY THE SAME THING, THAT THE QUALITY OF HEALTHCARE IN LAKE JACKSON HAS GONE DOWN, HAS NOT INCREASED.
AND I'VE BEEN TO, UH, HOSPITALITY ER'S FACILITIES, AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY WELL RUN, PROBABLY THE BEST IN THE STATE.
I WAS SO OVERWHELMED THE WAY THEY DESIGNED IT AND THE SERVICES THEY OFFER.
AND I'VE KNOWN JEANIE FROM THE ASSOCIATION PROBABLY SIX YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
SO I CAN VOUCH FOR WHAT SHE DOES.
LAKE JACKSON WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED BY ALLOWING HER TO COME HERE AND PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL HEALTHCARE.
AND SO I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALSO ABOUT THIS.
A LOT OF THINGS HAVE COME ABOUT.
WHAT DOES THE IMPACT OF THE HOSPITAL HAVE, ET CETERA.
SO CURRENTLY, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT IN LAKE JACKSON, IF YOU'RE HAVING A CARDIAC EVENT TODAY, YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY NOT GONNA BE SEEN HERE IN LAKE JACKSON IN A CATH LAB.
YOU'RE GONNA BE SHIPPED TO PARA LAND BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S NOT HERE FOR HEALTHCARE.
LIKE MOST PEOPLE WOULD JUST MAKE THE ASSUMPTION, OH, I FALL DOWN A HEART ATTACK.
I'M GOING TO THE LOCAL HOSPITAL AND HAVE 'EM TAKE CARE OF.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF GAPS IN HEALTHCARE IN LAKE JACKSON BECAUSE OF THAT.
ALSO, THERE'S, THERE'S COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT NOISE TRAFFIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT EMS DOES NOT RUN SIRENS.
WHEN IT PICKS UP A PATIENT, THEY TURN THEIR LIGHTS OFF, THEY RUN QUIET 'CAUSE THEY ARE TECHNICALLY STABLE ONCE THEY GET INTO THE EMS UNIT.
I ALSO REALLY BELIEVE IN TEXAS AS A FREE MARKET STATE.
AND COMPETITION RAISES THE BAR.
AND ANYTIME COMPETITION COMES IN, EVERYONE HAS TO DO BETTER.
AND SO THE HOSPITAL HAS TO DO BETTER.
OTHER HEALTHCARE HAS TO DO BETTER.
AND I THINK THE BIG QUESTION I WOULD ASK THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY IS THEY PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL CARE.
IF YOUR FAMILY, OR YOU NEED EXCEPTIONAL CARE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU ALLOW A COMPANY THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD AND YOU AND THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT YOUR GAPS ARE FOR HEALTHCARE WOULDN'T ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO COME IN.
AND SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUMMATION OF COMING TO THE MEETINGS, HEARING WHAT I'VE HEARD.
AND AGAIN, NOT HERE, BECAUSE SHE EVEN, SHE DIDN'T ASK ME, YOU DIDN'T ASK ME.
BUT, UH, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW HER AND I, I WAS INTERESTED IN WHEN I HEARD THAT A NEW HOSPITAL WAS COMING TO TOWN.
SO I WENT TO THE FIRST MEETING AND REALIZED WHO IT WAS.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YOU MEAN, RHONDA? DON'T HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I COMMENT QUESTION
WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND, UH, COMING AND SPEAKING.
AND, UH, JUST LIKE I HAVE A, I HAVE APOLOGIZED FOR OTHER PEOPLE FROM THIS AUDIENCE THAT, THAT ATTENDED, UH, THOSE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
AND I JUST WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT YOU WERE EXPOSED TO.
SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE, UH, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED OUTTA LINE.
UM, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY, UH, YOU WERE EXPOSED TO, UH, UM, SOME COMMENTS TOWARD THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE'RE OUTTA LINE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP AND WILLING TO TALK TO US, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BOUNCE 'EM OFF OF YOU IN THE FUTURE SURE.
I APPRECIATE, GLAD TO HAVE YOU IN TOWN.
SO, ONE THING MY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IS JUST TO, THEY'RE TALKING, AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF GAPS IN THE HEALTHCARE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS INDUSTRY, BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PATIENTS THAT WILL COME INTO THE FREESTANDING OR GO TO THE HOSPITAL ER, AND THEY GET SENT TO HOUSTON.
THEY GET SENT DOWNTOWN TO THE MED CENTER.
WHEN YOU'RE 85 YEARS OLD AND YOU DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FAMILY OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO DRIVE YOU, YES, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU THERE IN AN EMS, BUT WE, HOW DO YOU GET HOME? AND MOST LOCAL HEALTHCARE FACILITIES, IT'S NOT THEIR PROBLEM.
UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME AS A NURSE IS JUST, UM, IF WE CAN KEEP OUR PATIENTS LOCAL AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A LEVEL OF CARE, UM, THAT THEY NEED, WE
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SHOULD TRY TO DO THAT.IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S SUPER HARD ON A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS TO BE SHIPPED ALL THE WAY TO HOUSTON.
YES, WE'RE LUCKY, WE'VE GOT PHENOMENAL CARE IN HOUSTON, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T HAVE PHENOMENAL CARE RIGHT HERE IN LAKE JACKSON.
AND, UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SURROUNDING CITIES THAT COME TO LAKE JACKSON ALREADY FOR HEALTHCARE AND JUST, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A NEED, UH, MEDICALLY FOR THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT DOES NOT APPLY JUST TO 85 YEAR OLDS.
THAT APPLIES TO YOUNGER ONES TOO.
NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A, YOU CAN HAVE A 30-YEAR-OLD MOM AND SHE'S GOT FOUR KIDS.
AND SHE'S GOTTA, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SURGERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR NEEDS IV ANTIBIOTICS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
I MEAN, IT'S SUPER, I MEAN, IT'S VERY HARD.
THE LOGISTICS OF SHIPPING OUR, OUR CITIZENS OFF, UM, IS, IS TOUGH ON 'EM.
UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, THE SANDY SEA.
I DIDN'T HAVE A ROCKETS LONG SLEEVE T-SHIRT, SO I HAD TO WEAR A RED TEXANS ONE.
YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD YOUR H-U-H-U-H.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU AGE BECAUSE I'M AN A AND M.
AN A AND M GRANDMA AND A TEXAS STATE GRANDMA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO DO WITH WHAT I COULD DO WITH, ANYWAY.
I, UM, ONE, HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO WHAT THEY HAVE SAID.
THERE IS AN OPEN, THERE IS AN OPEN NEIGHBORS IN PEARLAND, PASADENA, BAYTOWN IN JUST THE HOUSTON SOUTHERN AREA.
SO NEIGHBORS IS NOT SHUT DOWN.
SO LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
THEY'RE NO LONGER OWNED BY THEIR PARENT COMPANY.
THEY'RE NOW OWNED BY ZT EMPLOYMENT.
THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE UNDER A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UH, UMBRELLA.
THEY DECLARED BANKRUPTCY AND THEY DID SHUT DOWN AND THEY WERE PURCHASED BY ANOTHER ENTITY.
SO THEY'RE NOT THE SAME NEIGHBORS.
SO THEY'RE STILL GOING BY THE SAME NAME.
BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME NEIGHBORS THAT TRIED TO OPEN HERE.
WHICH ALSO BRINGS UP A, UM, EMPTY BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EMPTY BUILDINGS IN HOUSTON OR IN, IN LAKE JACKSON.
AND SO IF WE HAVE OPEN, THEY OPEN THIS AND IT FAILS, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER OPEN BUILDING.
BUT WE DO HAVE A HOSPITAL IN THIS TOWN THAT DOES PROVIDE CARE.
THIS PLACE DOES NOT OFFER MEDICARE, MEDICAID, OR TRICARE.
THEIR AMBULANCE SERVICE ONLY TAKES PRIVATE AMBULANCES.
DO WE HAVE ANY PRIVATE AMBULANCES IN SOUTHERN BRAZORIA COUNTY OR THEY ALL CITY AND COUNTY OWNED THE, UM, NOT TAKING MEDICARE, NOT TAKING MEDICAID, NOT TAKING TRICARE PUTS A PRESSURE, A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON OUR CURRENT HOSPITAL, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO GO THERE OR PAY OUT OF POCKET.
WHICH, I MEAN, ALTUS IS A GREAT, I'VE BEEN THERE.
ALTUS IS GREAT, BUT IT DOES, IT TAKES INSURANCE, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYBODY'S PLANS.
YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE.
IT TAKES INSURANCE, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYBODY'S PLANS.
AND THAT'S, SO THAT PUTS, STARTS PUTTING MORE FINANCIAL BURDENS ON OUR EMPLOYEE, OUR, UM, OUR RESIDENTS.
SO PATIENCE IS
AND YES, WE DO SEE A LARGE NUMBER OF PATIENTS THAT GO TO HOUSTON BECAUSE HOUSTON HAS THE BEST MEDICAL CARE IN THE WORLD, AND WE SEE PATIENTS FROM ALL OVER.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE, AND WE DO HAVE, WHERE WE DO NEED, WE NEED BETTER CARDIACS, WE NEED BETTER, UM, STROKES, BETTER NEUROS.
WE NEED ALL OF THOSE IN LAKE JACKSON.
AND WE HAVE TROUBLE PULLING THOSE FROM THE BIGGER CITIES BECAUSE BASICALLY DOCTORS DON'T WANNA WORK IN SMALL TOWNS.
I MEAN, AND I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A FLAT OUT ISSUE, IS THAT DOCTORS DON'T WANNA WORK IN A SMALL TOWN.
AND I AM WORRIED THAT THIS FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO FULFILL THAT NEED OF BETTER HOSPITAL PROGRAMS THAT WE NEED.
BECAUSE ONE, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A HOSPITAL HOSPITAL.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE NO SURGICAL CARES.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A CATH LAB.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TOP RATED, UM, CARDIOLOGIST OR NEUROLOGIST.
UH, DO THEY EVEN HAVE AN EEG DEPARTMENT? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF KNOTS HERE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE MEDICAL SYSTEM OF WHAT'S A HOSPITAL, WHICH BY THE WAY, THERE ARE MORE
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THAN TWO TYPES OF HOSPITALS.AND WHAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND THEY OPEN UP THIS BIG BUILDING.
NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER EMPTY BUILDING, WHICH NEIGHBORS IS EMPTY.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS HOSPITAL, NOT HOSPITAL, THIS MICRO HOSPITAL, THIS TWO BED EXTENDED ER IS GOING TO FULFILL THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN THE JACKSON.
THERE IS ANOTHER MEDICAL FACILITY IN THAT CORNER UP THERE.
WE HAVE, UM, THAT NEXT LEVEL URGENT CARE.
I MEAN, Y'ALL TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORS, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER EMERGENCY TYPE AREA BUILDING UP IN THAT AREA.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY RESTRICTIVE ON WHAT KIND OF PATIENTS THEY TAKE AND STUFF.
THEY'RE VERY RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE A URGENT CARE, NOT A ER.
AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, BUT I AM JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF NOT REALLY FULFILLING WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN THIS TOWN.
AND THAT IS WE NEED CARDIOLOGISTS, WE NEED NEUROLOGISTS, WE NEED GENERAL PRACTITIONERS.
SHOOT, WE NEED GENERAL SURGEONS.
WE NEED PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN, THAT WILL WORK IN THIS TOWN AT OUR FACILITY, UM, THAT WE CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE.
AND GRANTED, RIGHT NOW, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T SEND A PATIENT TO, TO BRAZOSPORT BECAUSE THE NURSE PATIENT RATIO IS GOVERNED BY LAW.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NURSES, YOU DO, YOU CAN'T TAKE MORE PATIENTS.
I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE EMPTY BEDS.
I THINK THEY FORGOT TO TELL THE ADMINISTRATION THAT
SO, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS, UM, THERE'S A, THERE WAS A RESTRICTION ON WHAT YOU CAN TAKE, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS, IS ONE, I'M LOOKING AT ANOTHER EMPTY BUILDING, WHICH REALLY BUGS ME.
BUT THE, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS WILL FULFILL WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN THIS TOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NURSES IN THIS AREA.
WE, WE DO, THEY CHOOSE TO, TO DRIVE TO HOUSTON.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE PAYS BETTER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M HOPING THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND THE, THE LEVEL OF CARE AT EVERY FACILITY THAT WE HAVE.
IS THIS HOUSE FELLOW HERE IS GONNA BE THE SAME TYPE OR THE, LIKE THE NEW ONE THEY BILLING IN SWEENEY? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT'S LIKE A, THAT'S A FULL HOSPITAL.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M GONNA CLOSE OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, SEVEN FORTY ONE.
I'M GONNA CALL IT SEVEN FORTY ONE.
[2. Discuss and consider the first reading of Ordinance No. 2299 adding hospitals as a permitted use to the Oak Woods PUD which is bounded by Oyster Creek Drive, Circle Way, and Oak Drive. – Sherri Russell]
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM TWO, WHICH IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2, 2, 9 9, ADDING HOSPITAL AS A PERMITTED USE TO THE OAKWOOD POD, WHICH IS BOUNDED BY ORCHARD CREEK, DRIVE CIRCLE WAY AND OAK DRIVE.SO WE HAVE ORDINANCE FIRST READING.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION? UH, YEAH.
YOU WANNA READ IT? I'LL, I'LL READ THE CAPTION FIRST, SIR.
UH, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS BY AMENDING THE OAK WOODS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
THREE, TO ALLOW HOSPITALS AS PERMITTED USE, FINDING THAT ALL NECESSARY PREREQUISITES OF THE LAW HAS BEEN COMPLETED WITH AND PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE.
ALRIGHT, LOOK FOR MOTION ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ACCEPT THE ORDINANCE CHANGE NUMBER 2, 2 9 9, ADDING HOSPITALS AS PERMITTED USE TO THE OAKWOODS POD, WHICH IS BOUND BY OYSTER CREEK DRIVE CIRCLE WAY AND OAK DRIVE.
SO I HAVE A AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THIS MOTION.
IF YOU WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN THAT TO, UH, INCLUDE APPROVAL FROM HEB.
UH, AND, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST READING.
AND WAIT ON THE SECOND READING FOR THAT.
THE WRITTEN SAY WHAT AGAIN? WHAT WAS THE LAST PART? THE MAKE SURE WE HAVE APPROVAL, WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM HEB FOR THE, FOR THE PART CHANGE.
THAT'S SOME OF THE GENERAL USE GENTLEMAN ALREADY SAID THAT GOT MORE.
LEMME JUST ASK SHERRY, I MEAN, WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT, UH, APPROVAL FROM HEB.
WE WILL, UM, HOLD THE SECOND READING UNTIL WE RECEIVE THAT FORMAL APPROVAL FROM HEB.
IS THAT YES, THAT, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE FIRST READING.
RESOLVE YOUR NEED FOR AMENDMENT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, OKAY, SO WE, YEAH.
SO WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH SECOND READING UNTIL WE HAVE APPROVAL FROM HEB.
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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM CA, LEGAL COUNSEL.SO THE MOTION STANCE, UH, TO, UH, APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON HIS FIRST READING.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? I JUST, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT IT'S, CAN YOU GO TO PAGE SIX IS IT'S, THESE PUD ORDINANCES AREN'T NORMAL
THE ACTUAL MEAT OF THE ORDINANCE IS JUST IN EXHIBITS.
AND SO I JUST, UH, STUCK HOSPITALS AT THE END OF THE LIST.
BUT THERE'S ALSO, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IT IS, BUT IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT, I WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED SOME REFERENCES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WHAT REFERENCE SECTION 11, PAGE EIGHT, SECTION 11.
AND THEN PA I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PAGE.
I DIDN'T WANT, YEAH, IT'S JUST, WE'VE, WE'VE CHANGED NUMBERS IN THOSE CHAPTERS.
SO YOU TAKING OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE NEXT PAGE IN THE PUT IS WHILE WE HAVE IT OPEN? YES.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION? DID YOU SAY IT WAS TAKEN TO PLANNERS FIRST? MM-HMM
AND WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM PLANNER? THEY DID NOT PROVIDE, THEY DID NOT SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THEY DID NOT? I CAN'T READ THEIR MINDS.
I, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST, WE USUALLY GET ONE RESPOND NOW AS, AS THE LIAISON.
AS THE LIAISON TO, TO THOSE MEETINGS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I FELT LIKE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I, THAT WERE POSED WERE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF PLANNERS, UM, AND DIDN'T, DIDN'T REALLY REFLECT THE PROFESSIONALISM OF LAKE JACKSON.
SO, AND I WATCHED THE VIDEO, BUT, SO, BUT ANYWAY, THEY, THEY DID NOT, UH, THERE WAS ONE MEMBER THAT WAS WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT SHE WAS, I WOULD CALLED DOWN BY ANOTHER MEMBER.
SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND.
SO, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, SIR.
SO WE HAVE FIRST READING AND, UH, WE'LL HOLD UNTIL WE HAVE A LETTER FROM HEB.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE IT IN TIME FOR THE 17TH.
I DON'T THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYONE.
[3. Discuss and consider approving the amended purchasing policy. – James Bryson]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE, UH, AMENDING PURCHASE POLICY.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'LL GET YOU OUTTA HERE AS QUICK AS I CAN FOR THE BASKETBALL GAME.
SO AUGUST 5TH, WE BROUGHT TO YOU THE, UH, PROCUREMENT POLICY, AND WE HAD CHANGES AT THAT TIME BASED OFF OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DCMC WHO WAS HELPING US WITH OUR FEMA AND, UH, TEEM REIMBURSEMENTS FROM HURRICANE BURLE.
SINCE THAT TIME, TITLE TWO, UH, WITH REGARD TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS ON PROCUREMENT, HAS MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, KELLY GEORGE FOR DCMC GAVE US A RED LINE VERSION OF WHAT THEY FELT LIKE NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
UH, PAGES NINE AND 10 OF THAT POLICY SECTION 200 DASH 3 1 9 AS DEALING WITH, UM, REMOVING THE PRO PROHIBITIONS WITH REGARD TO GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS.
AND ON PAGE 21, THE, THE CHANGES WITH REGARDS TO DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF FEDERAL BIDS.
THOSE TWO ARE THE, THE TWO MAIN CHANGES WITH REGARD TO THE POLICY.
UM, COUNSEL HAS REVIEWED IT AND MADE HER RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO, BASED OFF OF WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT THE POLICY AS WRITTEN.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, MS. S CAN READ ALL 30 PAGES IF YOU WANT, AND SHE'S VOLUNTEERED, BUT OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE ON.
BUT YOU NEED TO NEED US TO APPROVE.
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAMES? NO, SIR.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE AMENDED PURCHASING POLICY AS PRESENTED ALL A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN BROUGHT US, AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU, Y'ALL VERY MUCH.
[4. Authorize the City Manager to hire Kimley-Horn to submit a grant to TXDOT for the Lake Road shared use path project in the amount of $2,760,000 under the 2025 TXDOT Transportation Alternatives grant program. – Riazul Mia]
WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR.AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO HIRE, UH, CLEMMY HORN TO SUBMIT A GRANT TO T STOCK FOR THE LAKE ROAD SHARED USE PATH PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,760,000 UNDER THE 2025 T TRANSPORTATION AL ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, AS YOU NOTIFY US, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GRANT.
SO WE REACH OUT TO KIMBERLY HONG, AND, UH, SINCE IT WAS A PHASE ONE, WHICH IS A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION, SO THEY WORK ON IT.
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UH, WITH TECHSTAR WITH A GOOD REVIEW AND TECHSTAR RECOMMENDING US TO SUBMIT A FULL APPLICATION.SO THAT'S, WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION, UH, IF THE, THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE TECH WILL AWARD THE GRANT IN OCTOBER.
UH, IF WE GET SELECTED, THEN WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH 20% MATCH, WHICH PROBABLY WILL BE ANOTHER YEAR.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WE TEXT OUT, WHICH TAKES TIME.
SO, AND WE JUST ASKING COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION.
I KNOW THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOK FROM PROBABLY NINETIES ON THE, SO WE ARE TRYING TO GATHER TOGETHER.
SO THIS LAKE ROAD, I HAVE A QUICK MAP.
IT'LL CONNECT TO ALL THESE BUSINESS CENTER, YOUR HOSPITAL, YOUR DOW CHEMICAL, YOUR REC CENTER SCHOOLS.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AS A VIABLE PROJECT.
YEAH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD, I REMEMBER WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, DOW EMPLOYEES WHEN THE DOW CENTER CAME UP, WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHEN CAN WE GET A, SOME KIND OF, UH, ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION ROUTE, UH, UP TO THAT AREA.
SO, AND THIS IS, THIS IS THE SAME GRANT THAT, UH, MILFORD HAD GONE OUT FOR BEFORE? NO.
AND IT HAD, OR THIS, THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT.
THIS DOESN'T TIE TO ANY KIND OF IT IS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SCALED BACK.
WE ASKED, I, WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION IS THE GRANTS THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER DOESN'T HAVE THE WEIRD 20% THAT GOES BACK TO NO.
THIS IS, SO THIS ISN'T THE ONE WHERE THEY WANT US TO MOVE ALL THE STREET LIGHTS AND NO, IT IS, THEY DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO MOVE STREET LIGHTS.
WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT IT, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE HAD ROUGHLY PUT A PRELIMINARY, UH, ONE, AND THEN WE WERE GETTING FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TALKED TO KIMBERLY WARREN AND SAY, LET'S TRY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT HAS, IS MINIMAL IMPACT AND COST.
AND SO WHAT THEY WORKED, WHAT THEY WORKED ON WAS SHORTENING THE LENGTH OF THE TRAIL.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT OF MOVING STREETLIGHTS AT ABNER JACKSON.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAD A MAJOR IMPACT OF, UH, CHANGING SUB LIGHTS, UH, AT OAK AND THEN ALSO OF, OF MEDICAL.
SO WE KIND OF SCALED BACK, MOVED THAT SCALE BACK, SO WE WEREN'T HAVING TO CHANGE EVERY INTER INTERSECTION ON THERE.
AND THEN RELOOKING AND TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATE PLANS WHEN THEY WERE CROSSING, UH, DITCH CROSSINGS.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REDUCED, UH, THE SCOPE OF IT.
IN ADDITION, WE'VE LOOKED AT CHANGING OUR FUNDING SOURCE FROM WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR MATCHING CHAIR WOULD BE IN THE CAPITAL, UH, PROGRAM OF OUR IMAGINE CHAIR WOULD COME OUT.
WE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE HALF SET.
SO HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO PAY KIMBERLY HORN TO SUBMIT THE GRANT? SO WE PAID HIM $8,000 TO GET US TO THIS POINT OF DOING PRELIMINARY REVIEW.
IT WOULD BE ANOTHER 35 TO MAKE THIS FINAL SUBMISSION.
UH, WE'VE PASSED THE FIRST PHASE WITH TXDOT, UH, AND THAT, AND WE'VE TAKEN THE, WE'VE TAKEN THE 8,000 OUT OF THE SIDEWALK FUND TO HELP US.
THE 35,000 WOULD STILL COME OUT OF THE SIDEWALK, UH, FUND.
THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD PROPOSE TO FUND, UH, TO FUND THIS APPLICATION.
AND THAT'S THE FUNDING THAT WE USE FOR, UH, SIDEWALKS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AND THIS WOULD BE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL, BASICALLY MM-HMM
AND THIS HAS BEEN ON, UM, THE MASTER PLAN, UM, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
I THINK IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE HIKE AND BIKE MASTER PLAN IN 1996.
AND IT IS SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, THEN MOVED FROM THE, TO THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN, AND THEN THE PARKS, THE PARK MASTER PLAN.
AND SO IT'S ONE OF SEVERAL TRAILS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR A WHILE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR IT TO GO FORWARD WITH, UH, FOR SUBMISSION SUBMISSION FOR THE GRANT THAT STILL BE, UH, COUNCIL GOODS, BASICALLY AGREEING TO SPEND $35,000 FOR SUBMISSION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO, SIR.
WOULD SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR? I'LL DO IT.
UH, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO HIRE KIMLEY HORN TO SUBMIT A GRANT TO TEXT OUT FOR THE LAKE ROAD SHARED USE PATH PROJECT AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN BROADUS.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN, WAS IT BUELL? YES, SIR.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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WE'LL MOVE ON[5. Discuss the extension of CR 220b to the entrance of the Alden property south of the airport. – Modesto Mundo ]
TO ITEM FIVE.ITEM FIVE DISCUSSED THE EXTENSION OF COUNTY ROAD, UH, TWO 20 B TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE, WHAT WE'LL CALL THE ALDEN PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT.
UH, MUNDO, UH, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE MAYOR AND I HAVE MET A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH A PROSPECTIVE BUYER OF THE ALDEN TRACK, WHICH IS 900 PLUS ACRES, UH, SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT, UH, NORTH OF 2004.
UM, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, UH, PURCHASING, BUT ONE OF THE, UH, QUESTIONS HAS COME UP IS THE, UM, ENTRY OR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
IF YOU RECALL, UH, THE MAJOR ENTRANCE WOULD BE PROPOSED IS OFF THE HIGHWAY AT THE INTERCHANGE.
UM, LET'S SEE, I HAVE TO PUT MY GLASSES ON.
THERE'S THE BUMP, UH, HERE TO THE PROPERTY.
THIS TRACK OF LAND IS PRETTY MUCH, IS 900 ACRES.
UH, THE SECOND ENTRANCE WAS PROPOSED AND, UH, IN 2016, 2017, TO ENTER THE, UH, THROUGH THE NORTH OF THERE AT THE TIME, WE SECURED THE EASEMENT, UH, TO THE PROPERTY WHEN WE EXTENDED WATER TO THE AIRPORT AND SEWER TO THE PRISON.
AND IN THAT, THE COUNTY, UH, PROVIDED AN EASEMENT, UH, THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY HERE.
AND THE PRISON SYSTEM, THE STATE PROVIDED, UH, AN EASEMENT FOR ROAD AND UTILITIES, UM, THROUGH THEIR A HUNDRED ACRE PORTION THAT'S STILL, UH, BY, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, BISECTED, UH, THE, OR SEPARATED THE COUNTY PROPERTY, UH, FROM, UH, THE ALDEN ALDEN TRACK.
SO AS TODAY AS WE SIT, WE HAVE AN EASEMENT FOR ROAD AND FOR UTILITIES, UH, FOR THAT NORTHERN ACCESS.
AND SO THAT'S MADE EVERYBODY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROPERTY ACCESS.
BUT IT'S ALSO CREATED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, I GUESS CONCERN SINCE IT'S BEEN SINCE 2017 WHEN WE SECURED THE EASEMENT.
AND, UH, I THINK THEY ARE ASKING FOR AT LEAST SOME ASSURANCE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IS SITTING TODAY.
ARE WE STILL SUPPORTIVE OF A ROAD IN THIS NORTH ENTRANCE BEFORE THEY LOOK AT BUYING THE PROPERTY? AND SO WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS, UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL SO SUPPORT OF THE IDEA OTHER THAN, UH, THE EASEMENT.
I, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY HAVE NOT TALKED REALLY ABOUT FUNDING A COMMITMENT OF THAT, UH, OF JUST A, UM, A COMMITMENT OF THAT.
UH, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE IT, UH, THE EASEMENT, AND WE ALSO HAVE IT IDENTIFIED AS PART OF OUR, UM, OUR, UM, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ON THE FUNDING IS, IS THEIR INTENT RIGHT NOW IS THAT THEY WILL, THEY WILL, IF WE, IF, IF THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND GOES THROUGH AND THEY GET, UH, AND CONDITIONAL TO THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND, IS IS SOME KIND OF REASSURANCE THAT THE CITY, UH, WOULD ALLOW THAT ROAD TO GO IN IF THEY, THEY PURCHASE IT, IS THAT THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE FUNDING THE PURCHASE, THE, THE BUILDING OF THAT ROAD.
UH, THAT IS, UH, WHAT THEY'RE, THAT THAT IS THEIR INTENTION NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY, AS SOON AS THEY PURCHASE THIS LAND, THEY WANT TO PUT THAT ROAD IN AND INVOLVING ANY GOVERNING, GOVERNING AGENCY.
THAT WILL BE VERY SLOW PROCESS.
SO, AND, UH, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO TXDOT TO, UH, WORK OUT THE INTERCHANGE HERE.
UH, BUT THEY CAN GET STARTED ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS, UH, RESTRICTED TO, UH, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THEIR FOCUS IS, IS ON THAT.
THEIR FOCUS IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER, UH, DEVELOPERS.
OTHER DEVELOPERS, THEIR FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON REAL ESTATE.
THEY NEVER DID KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE NORTH END.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG HANGUPS.
AND SO, UH, THIS GROUP, THEIR FOCUS IS HEAVILY ON THE RES ON THE COMMERCIAL AND ON THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
AND, UH, THEN THE RESIDENTIAL, IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, THEN THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD FOLLOW AFTER THAT.
SO I WAS A HERE IN 2017, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE COME IN AND THEY SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T AFFORD EIGHT INCHES OF CONCRETE.
WE WANNA DO SIX INCHES OF A CONCRETE.
AND THEN WE END UP WITH ROADS THAT ARE FAILING THAT
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WE THEN HAVE TO REPAIR.SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
THIS IS AN EXCITING THING FOR LAKE JACKSON.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF STRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ROAD.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D PUT INTO THE DOCUMENT.
UH, PUTTING THE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE AND STUFF.
YEAH, NO, SIX INCHES OF CONCRETE, THE, THE ISSUE YOU'RE TALKING, IT PREDATES ALL OF US, RIGHT.
SO, NO, BUT, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT ISSUE NOW.
AND WE WILL BE PAYING FOR IT FOR QUITE SOME.
NO, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT HAS BEEN BATTERED AROUND IS THAT WE CLEARLY, IF WE ARE DOING A, A RESOLUTION OR MOU, IS THAT WE TRY TO CLARIFY AS MUCH OF OUR EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ROAD.
IT'S ON OUR THOROUGHFARE, BUT HERE'S OUR EXPECTATIONS.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAY BE ALWAYS A FAIR DEVELOPER THAT THEY'RE NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD OR BY SURPRISE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO, ALL OF A SUDDEN, EVERYBODY IN THEIR MIND THINKS IT'S AN ASPHALT ROAD AS GETTING THERE.
AND OUR EXPECTATION IS SOMETHING MUCH HIGHER, AND CAN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? Y'ALL HAVE THE CONVERSATION AHEAD OF TIME OF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE EXPECTATION OF IS, OF THE STRUCTURE OF THIS ROAD.
THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, SOME OF THAT'S THAT SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE FORMAL DOCUMENT WOULD STATE OUT WITH THIS IS WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
UH, THIS IS WHAT I ENVISION IS THAT WE CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF IT, BUT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THIS, THIS CRITERIA CORRECT.
UH, AND I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT IS IS THEY JUST, THEY HAVE TO GO, BASICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS THEY HAVE TO GO TO INVESTORS FOR THE ROAD.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THIS, FOR THE PURCHASE, BUT THEY NEED TO GO TO, TO INVESTORS TO GET THEM TO, UH, UNDERSTAND IS THAT, UH, THEY WILL, UH, THAT AGAIN, THAT THE CITY'S OKAY WITH THAT ROAD GOING IN.
AND LIKE MODESTO SAID, IT'S, IT'S PART OF OUR, WHATEVER IT IS, THE STREET PLAN OR WHATEVER THAT DOCUMENT IS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RESEARCHING IT, UH, UH, WITH STAFF WAS, IS IN 2015, WE ACTUALLY HAD A, A STRATEGIC, UH, DOCUMENT THAT, UH, ACTUALLY DID AN ESTIMATE ON PUTTING THAT, THAT WE WERE PUTTING THAT ROAD IN.
AND SO WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT THE TIME.
BUT, UH, WE HAD ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT ROAD IN OURSELVES.
SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT ROAD HAS TO GO IN FOR, I MEAN, AN ENTRANCE.
ONE OF THE MANY BARRIERS TO THIS PROPERTY IS ENTRANCE TO THAT PROPERTY IS EXPEN EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, AND THIS IS THE QUICKEST AND LEAST EXPENSIVE, UH, ROAD GOING IN VERSUS THE TXDOT.
I MEAN, THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO HAVE THIS ROAD AND DEVELOPING WITHIN TWO YEARS OF, OF SIGNING THE CHECK ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO IS THAT BASICALLY LOOKING AT A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY? I MEAN, TWO, TWO-LANE ROAD? THEY, IT COULD BE.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TWO OR FOUR LANE.
IT'S, THERE'S, WHEN WE, WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED IT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT BUILDING IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST THE SAME STANDARD AS A COUNTY, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNTY ROAD ASPHALT.
UM, WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR NOW IS THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, AT LEAST HAVE CONCRETE, MEANING A MEETING, A TEXTILE STANDARD FOR HEAVY TRAFFIC BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERING IN, IN INDUSTRIALS.
SO THEY'RE THINKING SOMETHING HIGHER THAN WE INITIALLY WERE.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING AT LEAST WE WANT TO GET ON PAPER, WHAT'S OUR MINIMUM THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, FOR THAT.
AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING ON THE DESIGN, WHAT WE'LL BE CONCERNED WITH, AND IS THE COUNTY AS WELL, BUT WE WOULD BE THE COORDINATOR OF THIS, IS MAKING SURE DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE IS, IS ADDRESSED, UH, UH, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GOING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO EVENTUALLY, UH, DEVELOP.
SO DRAINAGE WILL BE A KEY COMPONENT THAT WILL HOLD THEM TO A STANDARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY'RE DESIGNING IT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE EFFECT OF THE ROAD ONTO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A STREET ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE AND YOU SAY MAYBE TWO LANES OR WHATEVER.
AND HOW MANY ROOFTOPS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COMING IN THERE? THAT'D BE TRAVELING IN AND OUT OF THERE? WELL, THERE'S, WE'RE GOING AND EXPLAIN REQUIREMENT ON THE TWO ENTRANCES.
SO THE ENTRANCE REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, 250 HOMES IS KIND OF THE, WELL, I'M SORRY, 25 HOMES IS THE KEY, UH, BENCHMARK.
ONCE YOU START BUILDING 25 HOMES, THERE HAS TO BE A SECOND ENTRANCE.
THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS THE SECOND ENTRANCE.
SO IF THEY WERE BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS FIRST PHASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, UH, AN ENTRANCE OFF, UH, FROM, FROM THE HIGHWAY.
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IF THEY BUILT 25 HOMES, THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, OR 26 HOMES.I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN BUILD A SECOND ENTRANCE.
UH, AND USUALLY THAT'S WHAT'S TRIGGERED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD.
UM, THE, UH, THE NORTH ROAD AFTER THEY WERE WORKING ON THE ENTRANCE, BUT NOW THEY'VE REVERSED IT WHERE THEY WANT TO, WHERE THEY'VE SAID THEY, THEIR KEY INTEREST FIRST OUT OF THE FIRST COUPLE OF PHASES IS COMMERCIAL AND THEN RESIDENTIAL.
SO THEY'RE, IF THAT'S TRUE, THEY WOULD PUSH BACK THE SECOND ENTRANCE UNTIL THERE'S BED, THE ROOFTOPS UNTIL, UNTIL THERE'S BEDS.
REALLY, IT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING AT NIGHT THERE? AND THEN DOES THERE'S, IS THERE FIRE ACCESS THAT'LL GIVE TECH STOCK TIME TO CATCH UP? YEAH.
SO ANYWAY, SO AGAIN, THEY'RE, AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR US TO BE SUPPORTIVE, PROVIDE A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS STATES THAT WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THEM BUILDING THAT ROAD AS LONG AS IT'S UP TO OUR REQUIREMENTS AS WE, THAT WE WILL STATE.
SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? UH, IT JUST SAYS DISCUSSED.
DISCUSSED, AND I THINK WHAT GIVE WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DRAFT IT AND BRING IT BACK FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL.
SO EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH, MODESTO? YES, SIR.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX,
[6. Staff Updates]
STAFF UPDATES, UH, CITY MANAGER BOND ELECTION.UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAVE SENT MAILERS OUT, UH, TO EVERYONE ON THE BOND EDUCATION LETTING, UH, THE VOTERS KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP IN MAY.
UM, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT AND REACHED EVERY HOME.
WE HAVE ALSO PUT A FLYER IN THE WATER BILLS.
AND SO THAT WILL BE GOING, LAST WEEK WAS THE FIRST WEEK THAT WOULD GO OUT.
THERE'S FOUR CYCLES, SO IT'LL TAKE ANOTHER THREE WEEKS FOR THE FLYER TO GO OUT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER, BUT IT REITERATES AGAIN, WHAT THE MAILER WENT OUT IN CASE ANYBODY, UH, MISSED, UH, THE MAILER.
WE'VE ALSO, THE WEBPAGES LIVE, UH, THAT, UH, LEADS EVERYBODY TO, UH, THE MAILER LEADS EVERYBODY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE.
AND WE'VE POSTED, UH, FACEBOOK POST, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO SUPPLEMENTED NOW WITH SEVERAL, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL GOOD QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER THOSE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.
WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AND ADDRESS ANY MORE, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, AS THEY GO UP.
ONE ADDITION THAT WE MADE TODAY WAS THERE WAS JUST A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION OF WHAT'S A STREET PANEL? UH, WE JUST KIND OF ASSUMED
AND, UH, WE HAD TO ANSWER, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT QUESTION AS WELL.
WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, UH, I KNOW WE'VE DONE, UH, A GOOD JOB ON THE FAQ, UH, SECTION OF THE WEBPAGE MM-HMM
I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD TAKE A LOT OF FQ FAQ QUESTIONS AND CREATE THOSE AS, UH, SPECIFIC POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
LIKE WHAT IS A BOND? SO IN THE FAQ, IT EXPLAINS REAL WELL WHAT A BOND IS, WHY, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.
JUST CREATE SO THAT THAT PULLS THAT INFORMATION OUT AND PUTS IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S FACE.
SO MAYBE JUST ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION AND, AND, AND YEAH, JUST TAKES ONE FAQ, LIKE FA Q1 AND CREATE A POST FAQ, CREATE A POST SO THAT, THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT HELPS EDUCATE, UH, THE VOTERS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT A BOND IS.
I MEAN, BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME AND YOUR AC BREAKS TODAY AND IT'S GONNA COST YOU 10 GRAND.
YOU DON'T HAVE 10 GRAND IN A BANK, SO YOU'RE GONNA GO BORROW.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS, UH, WE, WE CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE AC JUST LIKE YOU CAN AT HOME.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO BORROW THE FUNDS AND BE ABLE TO FIX IT WITH TODAY'S DOLLARS, UH, INSTEAD OF, UH, WAITING UNTIL WE CAN SAVE ENOUGH TO, UH, POSSIBLY, UH, AFFORD IT 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND ONE OF THE HARD THINGS IS TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES TO EXPLAIN IN THE POST, BUT, UH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION OF JUST WHY THE PD WAS DELAYED AND, YOU KNOW, DID WE NOT HAVE PLAN ENOUGH FOR AN INFLATION, YOU KNOW, FACTOR IN THAT IN ESSENCE WE DELAYED THE PD AND MOVED UP.
IT WAS A, IT WAS IN THE SECOND PHASE, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THE PARKWOOD TERRACE WAS IN THE LAST PHASE.
UM, WE MOVED PARKWOOD TERRACE UP AND MOVE THE PD BACK BECAUSE IT WAS THE BIGGER PROJECT.
AND WE RAN THE RISK THAT AS WHEN IT WAS IN THE LAST PHASE, THAT BECAUSE COST INFLATION HAS BEEN, HAS EXCEEDED ANYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE IMAGINED COMING OUTTA COVID, THAT PROJECT COULD HAVE MAYBE NOT BEEN DONE.
SO WE MOVED THAT FORWARD, AND THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT AFFECTED THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY.
THEY WERE DRIVING ON THE ROADS.
SO WE, WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO MOVE THE PD BACK.
AND KNOWING THAT WE WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE, AND WE HAVE ASKING FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS
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FOR, FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE PARKWOOD TERRACE WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT.I STILL THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE, AND THIS IS WHAT I ASKED FOR FROM THE BEGINNING, IS SOME BASIC EDUCATION LIKE THE MAYOR'S SAYING ABOUT WHAT IS A BOND? I MEAN, YOU GET ASKED ALL THE TIME, ARE, ARE BONDS GOOD? ARE THEY BAD? YOU KNOW, NO, IT'S JUST A TOOL THAT WE CAN USE.
AND HE GAVE A GREAT EXPLANATION, BUT ALSO I THINK THERE IS A CONNOTATION WITH BONDS RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE ALL BAD, THEY'RE ALL EXTRA TAXES, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EXPLANATION ABOUT HOW YOU CAN PASS A BOND AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE TAX RATE, OR IF IT KEEPS THE TAX RATE FLAT AND WHY IT WOULD RAISE THE TAX RATE.
SO ARE WE AGGRESSIVE IN HOW WE SELL THEM OR, YOU KNOW, CALL THEM IN, UM, WELL THAT'S GONNA RAISE THE TAX RATE.
BUT JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION ON HOW BONDS WORK IN GENERAL FOR MUNICIPALITY.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE GETTING, AND THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S SOME OF, SOME, MOST OF 'EM ARE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY DOES IT TAKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU APPROVE A BOND IN 2021 OR 2020, WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE JUST NOW STARTING ON THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE SLEEPY HOLLOW.
AND SO I HAVE TO KEEP ALL GOING BACK TO 'EM AND EXPLAINING TO 'EM IS THAT AGAIN, WE, WE PACE THOSE OUT SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THE TAX RATE, UH, AND, AND RE AND KEEP THE BURDEN ON THE, THE TAXPAYER AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SPREAD 'EM OUT.
AND WE, AGAIN, THAT HAS WORKED FOR US IN THE PAST, BUT AFTER A PANDEMIC, WE FOUND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF, OF, UH, INCREASING COSTS THAT THAT HASN'T PANNED OUT FOR US IN ALL TIME.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES HARD, UH, FOR EVERYBODY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR MIND AROUND IN THAT COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR COMPANIES, BUT ESPECIALLY, UH, IN THE MUNICIPAL ROUND IS, UH, FAR EXCEEDED ANYTHING WE COULD HAVE, UH, IMAGINED.
WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAD PLANS READY TO BID FOR THE DOWNTOWN, AND WE SAW GOOD BID PRICES OUT OF THAT.
UM, BUT YOU COULD SEE AS WELL, ONCE CONSTRUCTION STARTED, EVEN THE, THE CONTRACTORS WERE STARTING TO SEE COST ESCALATE DURING THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THAT, UH, IN THE, THE BUILDING PRICES, THE ESTIMATES AND OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN REALIZATION AND WHERE WE'VE HAD TO, UM, MAKE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER TO GET IT BACK INTO WHERE IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE BUDGET AND EVEN IN AN EXPLANATION.
SO WE PASSED THE BOND IN 2021 FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE PD.
NOW WE'RE NOT, BECAUSE WE WERE CONSERVATIVE IN HOW WE, WE DID THAT.
NOW WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS IN THAT SCENARIO? THE OPTIONS ARE EITHER WE GO BACK TO THE ORDER'S FORMAL MORE MONEY, WHICH IS PROPOSITION A OR DO IT, WHAT PEOPLE WONDER THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY? DO THEY JUST SIT THERE, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN TO THEM, THEN NOTHING HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SOLD THE ISSUE FOR THE PD MEETING, THOUGH IT'S BEEN APPROVED.
BUT IF THE SUPPLEMENT IS APP APPRO, UH, NOT APPROVED, IT'S MOSTLY THE, THE IT DOESN PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WILL NOT SELL, AND THE PROJECT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
WE'RE NOT SITTING ON YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT EXPLANATION FOR THOSE, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M GETTING.
AND I THINK IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IS THAT ANY OF US, IF WE GET ANY QUESTIONS TO, YOU KNOW, FORWARD THOSE ON TO, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY BE RESPONDING TO 'EM, UH, WELL I KNOW I AM AND I KNOW OTHERS OF US ARE, IS GO AHEAD AND FORWARD THOSE TO MODESTO SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION IS I THINK YOU NEED TO SHARE THIS WITH, YOU KNOW, OUT ON THE, THE REST OF THE PUBLIC TOO.
UH, IT'S, IT, IT TAKES ALL OF US TO, TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE AND, UH, EDUCATE, UH, THE POPULATION, THE COMMUNITY ON THESE BONDS AND WHY, WHY THEY'RE THERE, WHY THEY'RE NEEDED AND STUFF.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BONDS? FORMER A DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, UM, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE MIC VALLEY PLEASE? JUST BECAUSE WE'RE RECORDING AND FOR MINUTE PURPOSES, 10 WORDS OR LESS, I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN FROM THE COMMUNITY SO FAR ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME OF THE OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
UM, DESPITE WHAT YOU MIGHT BE READING ON THE COMMENTS IN FACEBOOK, I THINK THE BACKEND OF IT ALL WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW RESIDENTS ARE DIGESTING WHAT THEY'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, WHICH HAS BEEN BASICALLY AN FAQ SOCIAL CAMPAIGN.
UM, WE HAVE A QR CODE OUT THERE.
THE QR CODE AS OF TONIGHT HAS HAD ABOUT 140 PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT, WHICH TAKES THEM DIRECTLY TO THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS WHERE WE WANT THEM TO GO TO GET THE MOST INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A TINY URL, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A TINY URL MEANS,
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IT'S A SHORTENER.SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO GO TO LAKE JACKSON T OR LAKES JACKSON TX.GOV 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 9, YOU DON'T, WE SHORTEN IT TO TINY URL SLASH BOND LIKE LJ BOND 2025.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR SOMEONE TO JUST TYPE IN THEIR BROWSER THAT VERY SHORT DOMAIN NAME AND IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE WEBSITE.
SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD INDICATOR OF, UM, A MORE EDUCATED VOTER JUST BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT A TINY URL IS.
AND YOU'VE HAD ALMOST 139 PEOPLE GO TO THAT USE THAT TO GET TO THE WEBSITE.
I DO NEED TO PUT THE CAVEAT IN THAT FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, 40% OF THEM IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS PEOPLE FROM PARA LAND.
UM, AND, AND I AM NOT AN EDUCATED VOTER.
'CAUSE I DID NOT KNOW WHAT A TINY URL YEAH.
UNTIL, SO IT'S JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY UP ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S ANYWAY, GOING ON FROM THAT, UM, THAT THE, UM, ACTUALLY THE INDIVIDUAL POSTS THAT YOU'RE READING RIGHT NOW, UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE VERY LONG COMMENTS.
I THINK THE FIRST ONE FOR PROPOSITION A HAS A 44 COMMENTS ON IT, BUT I ALSO WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT ON THE BACK END OF THAT, AS MODESTO AND I WERE DIGESTING WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH IT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M, I'M SEEING IT TREND LIKE AN AVERAGE, A LOW AVERAGE KIND OF POST THAT WE GET.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT 4,000 TO 5,000 PEOPLE, UH, THAT HAVE VIEWED IT.
BUT OF THAT ONLY ABOUT 2,600 ARE UNIQUE, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'VE HAD 2,600 INDIVIDUALS LOOK AT THAT POST, BUT THEY LOOK AT IT A LOT.
SO THEY'RE KEEPING UP WITH IT.
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT EVERYONE WHO'S NOT TALKING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY'RE JUST CLICKING OR THEY'RE JUST LIKING OR THEY'RE JUST, UM, SHARING IT, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE WATCHING THE COMMENTS, BUT IT IS NOT REALLY MAKING THEM NOT LIKE THE BOND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU.
YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF BACKEND POSITIVE RESPONSE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW AS YOU GO FORWARD WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING TO BASICALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS THAT, UM, ARE NOT ALWAYS LIKE, YEAH, WHERE DO I GO TO VOTE? BUT IT'S MORE LIKE, WHY SHOULD I BE, BE VOTING? I THOUGHT THAT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK MODESTO AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, COUNCILWOMAN SETH, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, ACTIONS YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE, TWO, WE WILL BE WORKING ON, UM, THE, UM, THE ALDEN PROPERTY ENTRANCE OF DOING AN MOU AND RESOLUTION AND BRINGING THAT BACK FOR YOU AS A DRAFT TO CONSIDER.
UM, MAYOR, I MISSING THE OTHER ONE.
IT WAS EARLY ON THAT EARLY ON TURN PAGE, FRONT PAGE.
UH, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK IT UP.
UH, WE, I I DO HAVE A NOTE THAT WE'LL LOOK INTO WAYNE OF CONSTRUCTION YES.
THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS I HAVE.
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TO, UH, ITEM SEVEN, DAVID.GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UM, WE REALLY HAVE ONLY ONE, UH, ITEM THAT IS OF NOTE AND THAT, UH, IS AT THE GAS STATION AT THE CORNER OF 3 32 IN 2004, WHICH HAD BEEN APPROVED, UH, AND HAD JUST KIND OF SAT IN LIMBO FOR QUITE A WHILE, HAS PICKED UP THEIR PERMITS.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CLEARING THAT, THAT LAND.
UH, MR. MUNDO ASKED THAT I PROVIDE A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN TO GO ALONG WITH THE PACKAGE JUST SO THAT YOU ALL COULD HAVE A REFRESHER AS TO WHAT THAT SITE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS COMING IN.
THE ONLY QUESTION I'VE HAD ON THAT PROPERTY IS JUST, UH, HOW THEY'RE HANDING.
THEY'RE, I GUESS THEY'RE DOING SOME RETENTION.
THEY WILL HAVE ON ONSITE RETENTION.
IT'S GONNA BE UNDERGROUND OR DO YOU KNOW? NO, IT, THIS ONE I DON'T BELIEVE IS UNDERGROUND.
UH, MR. AGUIRRE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT UH, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA LAND OUT THERE THAT, UH, DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UH, FIT WITHIN A BUILDABLE AREA BECAUSE OF ITS LENGTH AND SHAPE.
SO THEY DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE OUT THERE FOR RIGHT THERE IS THE DETENTION POND.
IT EVEN SAYS THAT HAVE DETENTION.
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OKAY.ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? NO.
WOULD IT BE OFF OF 3 32 AND 2004 OR? IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DO HAVE AN ENTRANCE THAT THEY WORKED WITH T.TO SECURE THOSE.
UH, ONE OFF OF THREE 30, SORRY, 2004 AND ONE OFF OF 3 32.
JUST LIKE THE SERVICE STATION ACROSS THE STREET FROM CORRECT.
IT WOULD HAVE SOME HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS LIKE A, UM, DUMP TRUCKS AND STUFF.
IT IS DESIGNED FOR HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE DID COME IN AS A MORE OF A COMMERCIAL TRUCK STOP THAN, THAN THE ONE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM THEM.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE YOU, YOU WILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL HEAVIER TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT, UH, THAN, THAN THE SHELL STATION AND IT WAS DESIGNED ACCORDINGLY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? NO, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT, UH, YOU GIMME THE REPORT.
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I HAVE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, MR. BUELL? NO SIR.
I DEFER MY TIME TO COUNCILMAN
JUST REAL QUICK, THE ONLY THING I WANNA SAY IS THAT, UH, AND HOPEFULLY I GOT THE NAME RIGHT, IS UH, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UM, AND IT WAS FROM A MR. SWEENEY ABOUT THE, UH, WATER LEAK OVER THERE, UH, AT THE CULVERT.
SO, UH, HE HAD ACTUALLY SENT A VIDEO OF IT AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE MODESTO SENT IT TO YOU, BUT UH, HE SAID, I THINK WE HAVE A LEAK AND, UH, ANYWAY, IT'S OFF OF, UH, UNDERNEATH THAT WAY, RIGHT? YES.
IT'S UNDERNEATH ANYWAY, ANYWAY UNDERNEATH.
IS IT ANY WAY OR IS IT THAT WAY AND THAT WAY.
ANYWAY, IT'S UNDER, ANYWAY, ANYWAY WAY ANYWAY.
AND UH, BUT IT, UH, IT WAS, IT'S TURNING OUT TO BE SIGNIF.
IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT LEAK AND IT, IT'S REQUIRING SOME PANEL REPLACEMENT STUFF SO WE'RE RESTRUCTURING STUFF.
BUT ANYWAY, ALL I SENT A NOTE BACK TO HIM TELLING HIM HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THAT WE APPRECIATE UH, HIM BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IF IT WOULD'VE GONE ANY FURTHER WE WOULD'VE HAD MAJOR STREET FAILURE THINK AND WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO TRACE IT FOR TWO DAYS.
SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE ALL HANDS ON DICK HELPED AND HE HAD TO CRAWL DOWN INTO A DITCH TO TAKE THE VIDEO UP INTO CULVERT.
SO HE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF EFFORT TO DO THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I DUNNO IF HE SAW A BUNCH OF SAND THERE AND WAS WONDERING WHERE THE SAND WAS COMING FROM, BUT ARE WE HIRING ANYWAY, HE ENDED UP SAVING, HE ENDED UP SAVING THE TAXPAYERS A LOT MONEY.
BUT WE DO NOT ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO DO THAT.
DON'T GO FIND DOWN ABOVE A GOAL.
ERNESTO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING STAFF? UH, NO STAFF? NO SIR.