Jun 03, 2025 Planning Commission

NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

SORRY.

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IS THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PREVIOUS MINUTES? NO MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

NEXT ITEM IS ADMINISTRATIVE AND FILE REVIEW IN ACTION OF REPLAY OF PARKWAY PLAZA SUBDIVISION AND PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION SECTION FOUR, LOCATED ON THIS WAY, FILED ON JUNE THE THIRD, 2025.

VISITOR'S COMMENTS.

IF ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, THAT'D BE THE TIME.

UH, EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.

[5. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF REPLAT OF PARKWAY PLAZA SUBDIVISION IN PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, SECTION 4 (LOCATED ON THIS WAY) FILED ON JUNE 3, 2025.]

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON DA? UH, DO YOU NEED TO SAY SOMETHING? WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF NOT, WE WILL.

JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION.

YES, SIR.

UH, MY NAME IS JOSHUA GROVE.

I'M REPRESENTING BAKER AND LAWSON.

UH, WE'RE LOCATED AT 4,005 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE, ANGLETON, TEXAS.

UH, TODAY WE PRESENT TO YOU A REPL OF THE LOT, TWO OF THE PARKWAY PLAZA SUBDIVISION.

UH, I GUESS, DO YOU WANT ME TO INTRODUCE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS OR JUST THIS ONE FOR NOW? JUST THAT FIRST ONE.

UH, SO PRETTY CLEAR CUT.

LOT TWO IS GONNA BE DIVIDED INTO TWO TRACKS.

UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY SUBDIVIDED AND THEY NO LONGER OWN LOT ONE AND THREE.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

IT THIS, UH, THIS PARKWAY PLAZA HAS UNDERGONE SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS IN THE PAST.

UH, THE LAST ONE BEING, UH, UH, 2022 WHEN THEY CAME IN THERE TO, UH, DRAWN A NEW LINE, UH, TO, UH, CREATE PLOT NUMBER THREE THAT CONTAINED, UH, OR CONTAINS WHAT USED TO BE RICO, SHAS, BASS BRAES, BILLIARDS.

AND, UH, SO THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THEY APPROACHED THE, THIS, UH, THESE, UH, COMMISSION.

NOW THEY'RE COMING IN THERE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT NOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS RE SUBDIVIDING LOT NUMBER TWO, WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THE OFFICES, SO THE, UH, RICK OFFICE, UH, AREA, AND THEY'RE SEPARATING RICK'S OFFICE FROM THIS PARTICULAR, UH, FROM THE OTHER OFFICES CREATING A, YOU KNOW, IT'S INDIVIDUAL LOT FOR SALE.

I THINK HE HAS A, HE IS PLANNING ON SELLING IT WHERE HIS INDIVIDUAL OFFICE IS WHERE YES, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A GROUP OF OFF OFFICES ALONG WITH HIS RIGHT.

AND, AND NOW HE'S SEPARATING THAT ONE, WHICH, UH, IN LOOKING AT THAT PLANT, THE PLANT THERE.

SO, UH, I THINK HE IS PLANNING ON SELLING THAT PARTICULAR LOT TWO B FOR HIS OFFICE.

UH, LOT NUMBER TWO, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT CONSISTS NOW OF TWO A OR IS REQUESTED TO BE TWO A, WHERE THE MAIN, UH, THE MAIN, UH, OFFICES ARE THE MAIN GROUP OF OUR OFFICES ARE, AND LOT NUMBER TWO B, WHICH IS WHERE RICK'S OFFICE IS.

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AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE, UH, THE, THE REASON FOR THIS, UH, THIS REPLANT ALL THE, ALL THE LOTS THEMSELVES ARE SERVICED, UH, THROUGH A, UH, THROUGH THEIR OWN, THROUGH THE SYSTEM OF PARKWAY PLAZA THAT HAS A CROSS AXIS AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE, UH, ALL OF THOSE LOTS THAT PROVIDE FOR ALL THE UTILITIES THAT, UH, INCLUDING, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WATER, SANITARY SEW, SOME DRAINAGE.

AND, UH, OVERALL THEY DO HAVE ALSO A, UH, CROSS AIS AGREEMENT, UH, TO UH, BE ABLE TO, UH, AMBULATE THEIR PARKING, THEIR TRAFFIC THROUGH THE WHOLE PARKING, UH, THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, COMPLEX THERE.

UH, THEY ARE ALSO, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE A, UH, THEY HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT WHERE THEY CROSS THE SHARE ON THE PARKING ITSELF.

ANY RATIONALIZED IZATION FOR THAT ANGLE THERE AT THE TOP? THAT IS, UH, THAT WAS TO CREATE AN ACCESS TO MA MAYHAW STREET OR OH, OKAY.

THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD.

YES.

THE HALF OF THE ROAD.

THAT WAS THE REASON, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL WAY THEY PARTITIONED THAT.

ANYWAY.

SO THIS ONE ISN'T CHANGING THAT THE ONLY THING YOU SEE IS THAT LINE NOW THAT IS NOW BETWEEN LAW TWO B AND TWO A.

ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING.

I SEE NOTHING FROM ME OR ANYTHING ELSE.

NO, NOTHING.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF RELA OF PARKWAY PLAZA SUBDIVISION IMPLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION SECTION FOUR.

LOCATED ON THIS WAY.

FILED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

ADMINISTRATIVE AND THE FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PARKWAY PLAZA.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM.

[6. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PARKWAY PLAZA ALTERNATE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT (LOCATED ON THIS WAY) FILED ON JUNE 3, 2025.]

ALTERNATE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT LOCATED ON THIS WAY, FILED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

UM, NOTHING REALLY MAJOR ON THIS.

THE ONLY THING IS WE SPLIT LOT TWO INTO LOT TWO A AND TWO B, AND WE'VE SHOWN THE, UH, CHANGES TO THE PARKING ON THAT.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

'CAUSE THERE IS A SUBDIVISION, OF COURSE, THE VER THE VERY FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, YOU KNOW, IS DIVIDED ACCORDING, THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THIS SUBDIVISION.

UH, SINCE, UH, THE PARKING LOT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED, THAT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE EXCEPT THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE PARKING SPOTS.

NOW, BECAUSE OF THE NEW LOT, THEY ALL SHARE.

SO THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM IN THE, UH, UH, THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT CAN'T CHANGE.

IT IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY, UH, FRO FROZEN.

UH, THE ONLY THING IS THAT, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DESIGNATE THAT AS A, AN ALTERNATE, IS BECAUSE, UH, THE PARKING, UH, FOR THE RESTAURANT, FOR THE SWAMP SHACK AT ONE TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WAS 20, UH, 20 SPACES PER 1000.

I'M SOLID, SORRY.

ONE SPACE FOR THREE SEATS, 153, UH, SEATS.

UH, UH, SO THAT, UH, REQUIRED 51 SPACES, WHICH THERE ARE, BUT THE, UH, ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED SINCE NOW RESTAURANTS HAVE 20 PER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT FOR RESTAURANTS.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR, IT IS, UH, A SITUATION WHERE IT'S ALREADY THERE EXISTING WHERE IT'S A, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT A GRANDFATHERING.

WE WANT TO USE THAT TERM, UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HAS TO REMAIN THE WAY IT IS.

SO IT IS AN ALTERNATE BECAUSE IT IS NOT MEETING NOW

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THE CURRENT PARKING ORDINANCE CONDITIONS.

IN ACTUALITY, THERE IS NO, THERE SEEMS NOT.

I MEAN, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SH THE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE, THEY ARE ABLE TO, AND THEY CAN ALWAYS USE, UH, LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE 51 REQUIRED.

THEY HAVE THE 51, THEY'RE 40, THEY HAVE 40 EXISTING, BUT THEY ARE SHARING 11 OF THE SURPLUS PARKING SPACES ALTOGETHER.

THE PARKING, THEY STILL HAVE A SURPLUS OF ONE SPACE WHEN YOU TAKE I, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DISTRIBUTIONS.

LOT THREE ALSO SHARES IN THAT, UH, IN THAT RESERVE SURPLUS.

AND THAT'S, UH, THEY, THEY SHARE EIGHT AND A HALF SPACES OFF OF THOSE.

NOTHING.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

AND THIS COMES, UH, COMES UP BECAUSE OF THE REPLANTING THAT WE'VE DONE, THE ALTERNATE DESIGNATION.

OH, WELL, UH, NO, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE AT ALL.

THERE'S ALWAYS A, THERE'S ALWAYS PARKING THAT HAD TO BE SHARED FROM THE RESERVE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S SHARED DIFFERENTLY FROM THE, THE, UH, PREVIOUS PARTITION, BUT WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING FROM MULTIPLE OWNERS.

IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM .

SO THAT, THAT JUST SEEMED INTERESTING.

I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PARKWAY PLAZA.

ALTERNATE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT LOCATED ON THIS WAY.

FILED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALRIGHT,

[7. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF PARKWAY PLAZA LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT (LOCATED ON THIS WAY) FILED ON JUNE 3, 2025.]

NEXT ITEM.

THE SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND, UH, I'LL JUST TAKE IT FROM HERE, JOSH.

UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A, AGAIN, A SITE CHANGE 'CAUSE OF THE LOCKED, UH, CONFIGURATION DIFFERENCE.

UH, WE HAVE TO GO, WE HAVE TO GO BACK IN THERE.

AND IT ALSO GIVES US A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UPDATE THE PLAN IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CHANGES DUE TO TREES, DYING STORMS AND WHATEVER IT IS.

SO THIS GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS WHOLE HOLE AGAIN.

FROM WHAT HA WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN THIS, IN THIS UH, CASE, THERE WERE HOW MANY TREES THAT WERE LOST? THREE OR FOUR.

I THINK THERE WERE JUST TWO.

THERE WERE TWO.

THERE WERE TWO TREES THAT WERE LOST SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHY.

SO NOW THEY ARE REPLACING IT, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT BACK TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY.

SO, UH, YOU, YOU SAID THEY ARE REPLACING, THEY'RE REPLACING WHAT WAS LOST.

CORRECT.

WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR THEM TO, TO COME BACK UNDER THESE SILENT CONDITIONS AND PRESENT A UNDER A SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW? AN ACTION OF PARKWAY PLAZA LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT LOCATED ON THIS WAY.

FILE ON JUNE THE THIRD, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE SECOND.

NEXT ITEM, ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF ALTERNATE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION SECTION 12 LOT ONE A TO INCORPORATE TAKE FIVE.

YOU HAVE A SECOND? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

[8. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF ALTERNATE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, SECTION 12, LOT 1A TO INCORPORATE TAKE 5 OIL CHANGE LEASE PARCEL (129 W SH 332) FILED ON JUNE 3, 2025.]

AUTO CHANGE LEASE PARCEL 1 29 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 3 32 FILED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

SO THIS SITE WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES, UM, FROM THE DESIGN GROUP IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO SPEAK.

THIS IS OVER THE HOBBY LOBBY PARCEL.

COOL.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT LEASING THIS, UM, 0.2 3, 2 3 ACRE PARCEL TO UM, DO A TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE.

SO IF YOU GUYS TAKE, I'M AUSTIN HAY, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD REPRESENTING DRIVEN BRANDS ON THE PROJECT TODAY, WE'RE PROPOSING A THREE BAY, UH, TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE FACILITY IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE HOBBY LOBBY.

UM, THIS WOULD HAVE US, THIS FACILITY IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE OPERATES.

YOU DON'T GET OUTTA YOUR VEHICLE, YOU STAY IN YOUR VEHICLE THE ENTIRE TIME.

AND SO THE PARKING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING

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SPECIFIC TO THE TAKE FIVE WOULD BE FOUR EMPLOYEES, OF WHICH THEY'RE TYPICALLY THREE TO FOUR AT ANY GIVEN TIME ON THE SHIFT.

BUT THIS PROJECT DOES PROPOSE LOCATING THAT IN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT OF THE HOBBY LOBBY.

SO BILL, UH, IF YOU LOOK TO THE BOTTOM LEFT AT THE TABLE, THEY WENT THROUGH AND TABULATED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR THE ENTIRE, UM, EIGHT AND CHANGE ACRE PARCEL AND SHOW HOW MANY ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT EXISTING BASED ON OUR ORDINANCE, HOW MANY THEY NEED FOR THEIR AUTO SERVICE AND GO THROUGH AND ADD, UM, THE EXISTING PARKING.

HOW MUCH IS BEING REMOVED IS SHOW THE TOTAL QUANTITY OF PARKING AFTER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THE REASON THIS IS AN ALTERNATE DESIGNATION IS BECAUSE IT IS, UM, UH, IT'S REQUIRED FOR NINE FIVE AND IT'S PROPOSING 4 79.

UH, HAS I, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE WE LOOK AT OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THAT.

UM, THE AREA IN QUESTION, THEY HAVE NINE QUEUING SPACES, WHICH ARE SHOWN AROUND THE TAKE FIVE OIL CHANGE BUILDING.

UM, LIKE AUSTIN HAD MENTIONED, THERE ARE SIX SPACES SHOWN HERE OF WHICH HE'S EXPECTING THREE TO FOUR EMPLOYEES USE BASED ON PRECEDENTS WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

WE INCLUDE THE THREE SPOTS INSIDE THIS BAY.

UM, AND THEN THE LEASE LINE SHOWN HERE TAKES AWAY, I WANNA HOW MANY SPACES DOES IT TAKE AWAY? IS IT 30? UM, BUT IT TAKES AWAY A PORTION OF THE PARKING RIGHT HERE.

UM, IT HELPS TO SEE THE AERIAL OR NO, IT'S LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, BUT THAT'S UP AT THE CORNER NEXT TO THE GAS STATION.

SO KIND OPPOSITE OF WHATABURGER RIGHT HERE.

THEY HAVE GREAT COMMERCIALS.

DO THEY TAKE FIVE MINUTES? OKAY.

MM-HMM .

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU COULD, AND THAT YOU COULD MIND WHY THEY'RE COMMERCIALS FOR .

JUST PAY ATTENTION NEXT TIME.

THEY'RE PRETTY FUNNY.

GARY.

IT'S INTERESTING.

THEY HAD TO DECIDE WHICH WAY THE FLOW WOULD BE AWAY FROM 3 32 OR TOWARDS 3 32.

UH, IT'S GENERALLY BASED ON QUEUING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE TRAFFIC.

RIGHT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE WAY IT'S DOING IT COMING FROM THE PARKING LOT.

MM-HMM .

AS OPPOSED TO THE HIGHWAY.

YES SIR.

YOU HAVE TO LOOP THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THE QUEUING LANES AND SUCH.

WHERE IS THE DUMPSTER? TRASH DUMPSTER SOUTHWEST CORNER ON THE LEFT.

WHAT DO WE, UH, ON LANDSCAPE? NOT YET.

NO, NOT YET.

WE'RE ON ALTERNATE PLAN.

ALTERNATE CYCL PLAN.

OH, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GONNA BE MOVING INTO BIG WATS YET? ARE WE ALLOWED TO SAY, UH, BURLINGTON FACTORY? BURLINGTON COKE FACTORY.

SO IT WOULD BE ANOTHER RETAIL USE? YEAH.

SENIORS.

SOMETHING CONCERN YOU.

UH, AN EMPTY BUILDING IN TWO YEARS, BUT THIS PART, NO.

IS THERE ANY SIGNAGE THAT'S NOT ON THE BUILDING ITSELF OR WE ARE PROPOSING SIGNAGE AT THE NORTH PORTION BY THE DRIVEWAY.

AND SINCE IT'S LEASED, IT CAN BE ON A SHARED SIGN, I GUESS IS THE RATIONALE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, AS FAR AS FOAM MOUNTED, YES, THEY WOULD'VE TO USE WHATEVER'S THERE ALREADY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW, UH, OF AN ALTERNATE SITE PLAN FOR THE PLANTATION, UH, VILLAGE.

AND THAT, UM, EXCUSE ME.

NO, THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.

THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.

SECTION 12 LOT ONE A TO INCORPORATE TAKE FIVE.

OIL CHANGE LEASE PARCEL 1 29 WEST SA SAM HUGHES, EXCUSE ME.

STATE, STATE OF HIGHWAY 3 32 FILE ON JUNE THE THIRD, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? WAS THAT MR. TYLER? THAT SECOND BATCH? YES.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

SAME

[9. ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION OF ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, SECTION 12, LOT 1A TO INCORPORATE TAKE 5 OIL CHANGE LEASE PARCEL (129 W SH 332) FILED ON JUNE 3, 2025.]

PROPERTY.

ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN A AMEND

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YES.

UM, DO YOU WANNA THINK OF THE, THE LANDSCAPING OR? SURE.

ABSOLUTE.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING LANDSCAPING SPECIFIC TO OUR LOCATION THERE IN THE ISLAND, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO ADD ADDITIONAL TREES TO RECOVER WHAT'S BEEN LOST IN PAST DROUGHTS AND STORMS. UH, BRINGING THE SITE UP TO COMPLIANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN COMPLIANCE DUE TO THE LOSS OF THOSE TREES.

UH, THE LEASE SITES SPECIFICALLY IS PROPOSING TWO TREES IN THE REMOVAL OF A SINGLE TREE ON A LANDSCAPE ISLAND THAT'S BEING REMOVED.

UH, AND THEN GENERAL LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE ISLANDS THEMSELVES.

SO, UM, THE DESIGN TEAM WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE SITE, UM, AND THEN LOOKED AT HOW MANY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.

AND THEY DID FALL SHORT, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETIME PROBABLY FROM BARREL, LOST A FEW TREES.

SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PLANT THESE BACK.

UH, WE ALSO WANNA BRING UP THAT WHEN KMART FIRST CAME IN, IT WAS A 7.5% LANDSCAPE AREA REQUIREMENT FOR THE SITE.

AND UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS AN ALTERNATE DESIGNATION.

UM, IT IS, IT IS, UH, LESS THAN THE 12 POINT HALF THAT IT SHOULD BE WITH OUR LATEST LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, BUT MORE THAN OF COURSE A SEVEN AND A HALF WHEN IT WAS FIRST APPROVED.

UM, SO THEY HAVE THAT TABULATION OVER HERE AS WELL WHERE THEY SHOW, UM, THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING BASED ON OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AND THEN THE PROVIDED LANDSCAPED AREA.

UM, THE ONE THING TO NOTE IS WITHIN THEIR SITE, MEANING THEY'RE 0.2 3, 2 3 ACRE LEASE, UM, THEY ARE GREATLY INCREASING THE, UH, KOUS AREA, REMOVING EMPER.

SO THERE'S A CURRENTLY JUST AN ISLAND 188 SQUARE FEET AND THE REPLACING IT WITH ALMOST 2000 SQUARE FOOT OF GREEN SURFACING, UM, AROUND THE EIGHT FIVE OIL AREA.

SO OVERALL IMPROVING THE SITE, UM, MORE THAN THE INITIAL APPROVAL, BUT LESS THAN OUR ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THE EIGHT ACRE SITE.

NO, I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT.

GOOD.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SO WHY AREN'T WE, WHY AREN'T WE REQUIRING THEM TO COME UP TO THE 12.5% FOR THE WHOLE SITE SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BEHIND I THINK MUCH LONGER THAN BARREL? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I MEAN IT'S, WELL, UH, UNLESS YOU AS A BOARD, YOU KNOW, WOULD CALL FOR THAT ONE, WE, IT IS AN EXISTING CONDITION, A PREEXISTING CONDITION THERE THAT UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHOW ONE, YOU COULD DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WOULD'VE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH THE DEVELOPER, I MEAN THE OWNER OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, UH, PROPERTY THERE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THAT CLAIM.

THE OWNER WAS GRANDFATHERED IN FROM THE, FROM THE CHANGE THOUGH, CORRECT? NO, THEY WEREN'T GRANDFATHER FROM THE, THEY CAME IN ORIGINALLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT AT THAT TIME.

THAT WE HOLD TO THAT STANDARD.

THEY HAVEN'T MADE CHANGE THE PROPERTY, SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO COME UP TO THE NEW 7.5%.

SO, UH OKAY.

BUT THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN BAD AND YEAH.

SO THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM THAT STANDPOINT? CORRECT.

SO WITH THEM ADDING 2000 SQUARE FOOT OF GREEN SPACE, THAT STILL DOESN'T GET THEM IN TO THE 12.5%.

HONESTLY, IF THEY PROBABLY DID THE ENTIRE 0.2, 3.23 ACRE THING, IT WOULDN'T HIT IT.

I CAN FIGURE THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, THAT'S ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

IF THEY DIDN'T BUILD A BUILDING, THEY JUST MADE A NICE GREEN MM-HMM .

SQUARE MM-HMM .

AND THEY NEED, THEY NEED ALMOST 10,000, THEY NEED LIKE 9,000.

SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE INVERSE OF THIS PLAN WITH NO PARKING, YOU KNOW, JUST GRASS.

UM, THEIR ONLY, THEIR, UH, CLIENT IS JUST LEASING THIS 0.2 3, 2 3 ACRE SQUARE OUT OF THE ENTIRE CORRECT.

SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE OWNER'S ATTENTION.

I DON'T THINK IT COULD BE HANDLED BY NO, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WITH THEM WANTING TO DO A PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AND NOT BEING REQUIRED TO BRING UP TO THE CURRENT STANDARDS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE HOLD 'EM TO,

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I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS ONE WHEN WE HAVE 'EM FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I, I'M, I'M NOT FOR IT ONE BIT.

I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST, I MEAN IT'S BEEN 35 YEARS SINCE AN IMPROVEMENT WAS MADE TO THIS PROPERTY AND IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO CATCH UP TO TIMES.

I MEAN, THEY'VE GOTTEN AWAY THIS ENTIRE TIME WITH NOT BEING UP TO DATE.

I'M AMAZED THAT WE'RE EVEN ENTERTAINING LETTING IT SLIDE.

TO BE HONEST.

IT IS A DESOLATE PIECE OF PROPERTY WHEN YOU DRIVE BY IT AND YOU LOOK AT EVERYBODY ELSE.

IT LOOKS PRETTY DANG NICE.

IT HAS A DESOLATE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

ARE YOU SAYING DESOLATE? YES, MA'AM.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SEE MUCH DIFFERENT FROM WALMART'S.

IT'S A, A BIG PARKING AREA.

MM-HMM .

WE LET THEM SLIDE TWO.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.

I MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINAL REVIEW IN ACTION OF ALTERNATE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR OUR PLANTATION VILLAGE SUBDIVISION SECTION 12.

LOT ONE A TO INCORPORATE TAKE FIRE OIL CHANGE LEASE PARCEL, UH, FILED ON JUNE THE THIRD, 2025.

HAVE A MOTION.