Nov 04, 2025 Planning Commission

THIS IS JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROTOCOL, ANYBODY THAT'S IN HERE THAT, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT WANTS TO SPEAK NOW, IT'D BE THE TIME, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ALRIGHT, ANYBODY THAT

[3. VISITOR COMMENTS]

THIS ONE'S NOT.

HELLO.

ALRIGHT, WE GOT A FEW THINGS GO THROUGH FIRST BEFORE WE GET TO THE MCDONALD'S THING.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE MINUTES VISITORS COMMENTS IF ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S HERE ABOUT THE, UH, MCDONALD'S THING.

UM, LET'S DO OUR FIRST ITEM, ADMINISTRATIVE

[4. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON APARTMENTS AT 128 W PLANTATION DRIVE]

REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON APARTMENTS AT 1 28 WEST PLANTATION DRIVE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A, A A, THIS IS A, AN ITEM FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

UH, THE, UH, THE INTERESTED PARTY WAS, WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT HERE TODAY, BUT BECAUSE IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN AT LEAST TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND WAITING FOR THEIR, I MEAN, AFTER YOU REVIEW THIS THING, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS, MAKE YOUR STATEMENTS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT'S, THAT'LL GO BACK TO THEM SO THEY CAN THEN COMPLETE THAT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOUR WISHES ARE.

UH, THIS, WE HAVE SOME, YEAH.

KNOW, FOR THAT CONDITION.

THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE, OR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, UH, ATTEMPTS TO, UH, WRITE THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PLAN THAT CAME TO YOU BACK IN 2019 THAT FELL TO, UH, MANY THINGS THAT FELL, UH, FELL TO MANY THINGS WHERE MOST OF THE, UH, MOST OF THE PLANT ITSELF GOT LOST, EITHER BY THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, BY THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE OR BY TIME BY THE DIFFERENT WEATHER, UH, EVENTS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT COURSE OF, OF TIME.

LIKE I SAID, IT STARTED IN 2019 AND IT'S STILL CONTINUING ON TODAY.

UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THEY CAME BACK ORIGINALLY JUST TO GIVE YOU A, UH, REFRESHER ON WHAT HAPPENED.

THEN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SIPAN ORIGINALLY CAME IN WITH WHAT WE CALL A GREEN BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AT, UH, AT, UH, FLAG RIDGE, UH, FIVE, WHICH, UH, PRIMARILY THE, UH, THE REAR OF THE, UH, PROPERTIES SO THAT ARE ON, UH, ON WALNUT STREET.

UH, THAT PARTICULAR IDEA, THAT PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT IMMEDIATELY FELL, UH, OUT OF, UH, OUT OF SEQUENCE BECAUSE PRIMARILY THE, UH, THICKET THAT WAS SEPARATING THAT, THAT ORIGINAL GREEN BUFFER IN THERE WAS EITHER CLEARED BECAUSE, OH MY GOD, I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THAT VOICE.

, YES.

UH, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, UH, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, BUFFER AREA EITHER FELL TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CLEARING, UH, INSTALLING THE FENCE.

THE, UH, THE FENCE THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE PUT, UH, WAS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INSTALLED BETWEEN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THAT LOSS OF THAT PARTICULAR GREEN BUFFER.

THEN, UH, IT WAS BECAUSE OF A LAX SUPERVISION DURING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT A LOT OF THE FIRST TIER OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE BEING BUILT, WHICH WERE RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE FENCE THERE, YOU KNOW, TOOK LIBERTIES THERE AND REMOVED SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL, UH, GREEN AREAS BECAUSE OF THAT.

DURING THE COURSE OF THE, OF ALL THESE YEARS, WE ACTUALLY MADE THEM, OR THE COUNCIL, UH, THE CITY, UH, REQUEST THAT THEY COME IN HERE AND AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO DO SOME REPAIR TO THAT PARTICULAR GREEN BELT.

THEY DID COME IN HERE WITH A PLAN WHICH WAS REQUIRED FROM THEM IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AMENDS FOR, FOR THAT, UH, YOU

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THERE THEY DID.

THEY COME BE, THEY CAME BEFORE YOU WITH A NEW PLAN THAT TRIED TO REPLENISH THAT PARTICULAR, UH, THICKET AS I CALLED IT.

AND, UH, YOU, UH, THIS PARTICULAR BOARD APPROVED THE PLAN.

THEY WENT, THEY WENT AHEAD AND IMPLEMENTED THAT PLAN.

AND NOW, UH, IT IS, UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, YOU GO DOWN THERE.

THAT IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

I MEAN, THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED THE SECOND TIME AROUND.

THE LAST THING THAT WAS LEFT WAS BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION WAS STILL ONGOING AND IT'S STILL ON, AND IT STILL IS FOR THE MOST PART.

THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO START OCCUPYING SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY COMPLETED OR HAVE BEEN AT LEAST APPROVED FOR COMPLETION.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY NEED TO HAVE, GET A CER CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BY THE CITY ORIGINALLY, THE CITY, THE, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION PUT IN SOME CONDITIONS ON WHEN THOSE COULD BE ISSUED, AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS THAT THEY PRESENT THE FINAL PLAN THAT COMPLETED THE LANDSCAPE FOR THIS WHOLE COMPLEX THERE.

UH, FINALLY, THEY, THEY HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT THERE WHERE THEY ARE PRIMARILY TRYING TO OCCUPY BUILDINGS AND IN DOING SO, TRY TO GET SOME CAPITAL, I GUESS, TO FINALLY MAKE THE FINAL PUSH TO CON TO, TO FINISH AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

SO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION IS, IS OKAY, AS LONG AS THEY COME UP WITH THIS PLAN, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE, UH, BEFORE YOU, NOW IT IS THEIR FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE AND THE DISPLAY THERE AT THE, IN THE BACK THERE.

UH, IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THEY'VE DONE NOW IS MOST OF THE TREES, UH, TREES THAT WERE THERE ORIGINALLY WITHIN THE ACTUAL BUILDING LAYOUTS THERE THAT YOU SEE ORIGINALLY WERE LOST EITHER BECAUSE OF HURRICANES, EITHER BECAUSE OF FREEZES AND, UH, AND JUST, UH, THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DISTURBED, UH, BY THE EARTHWORK THAT WAS HAPPENING AROUND IT.

NOW THEY ARE COMING IN AND WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO IS A DEFINITE, A DIFFERENT PLAN, BUT A PLAN NOW THAT MEETS THE CONDITIONS THAT THE CITY HAS OR THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY HAS OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THEY ARE PROPOSING TO.

AND I HAVE A, UH, THE LAST, UH, TABLE THAT SHOWS THERE TO YOU THAT ORIGINALLY THE 2019 PLAN HAD 55 REQUIRED TREES.

THE NEW PROPOSED PLAN, AS IT STANDS NOW, THEY ARE PROPOSING 55 TREES, CREDIT TREES.

THEY HAD 60 CREDIT TREES BACK THEN.

THIS TIME THEY COME UP WITH 57 TREES CREDITED.

THOSE ARE TREES THAT WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, TRIBULATION.

AND NOW, YOU KNOW, 10 OF THOSE TREES ARE STILL THERE AND THEY CREDIT FOR 57 TREES THAT IS CALIPER INCHES.

THE, UH, ORIGINALLY EXISTING NUMBER OF TREES THAT WERE THERE AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL, THERE WERE 46 TREES THAT WERE LEFT AS A RESERVE.

ALL OF THEM WERE LOST.

ONLY FOUR OF THOSE REMAIN OF THE NEW TREES.

ORIGINALLY, THEY WERE PROPOSING NINE TREES TO BE PUT IN THERE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING NOW 48 NEW TREES TO COME TO SUPPLEMENT OR TO, TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, REPLACE ALL THAT.

THAT WAS LOST BEFORE ON THE FRONT SCREENS.

ORIGINALLY THEY HAD NINE.

THIS TIME THEY'RE PROPOSING 19 REQUIRED LANDSCAPE.

THEY STILL HOLD THE TWO 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD, AND THEY STILL HOLD THEM.

AND, UH, THE LANDSCAPE AIR PROVIDED STILL HOLDS THE SAME THING, 20.7 TO 20.6.

THE IRRIGATION REMAINS THE SAME.

UH, ALL IN ALL, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST THAT YOU COULD GET UNLESS YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THIS.

NETTING JUST DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL WE COMPLAINED TO 'EM AND SAID, HEY, WAIT A SECOND, WHAT ABOUT OUR GREEN ZONE? UM, SO I I STILL HOLD FIRM TO THAT.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DON'T YOU? NO, I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO START WITH MATT SINCE THIS IS HIS FAVORITE PROJECT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN FEED OFF OF THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

WELL, I MEAN, I, I STILL THINK WE HAVE TO RECALIBRATE THE WAY WE ENFORCE THE NETTING AROUND STUFF.

'CAUSE I MEAN, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING.

THEY, THEIR

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THAT WAS A COMPLETE SLAP IN THE FACE OF US, IN MY OPINION.

EXACTLY RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, UH, I, THEIR PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE LISTED HERE WITH THE AMOUNT OF FOLIAGE, TREES, SHRUBBERY IS ACTUALLY QUITE IMPRESSIVE.

I DID NOT ANTICIPATE THEM TO COME BACK THIS STRONG.

I AM MILDLY WORRIED ABOUT ANY KIND OF ROOT DAMAGE IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO THE ALREADY NOT HAPPY CAMPERS THAT LIVE THERE WITH THEIR FENCE LINES.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S ANY KIND OF TREE ANYWHERE, UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, BUT MY, MY, MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE IS US TRYING TO ENFORCE AND HAVE A PENALTY FOR WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

I MEAN, YES, WE'VE KEPT THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AWAY FROM THEM UNTIL THEY FULFILL THIS NEED, BUT I MEAN, IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS.

YES, SIX YEARS.

I MEAN, I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ALLOW STUFF TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE TOWN FOR SIX YEARS.

I MEAN, AND IT'S NOT A HUNDRED FOOT OR A HUNDRED STORY SKYSCRAPER, IT'S NOT A BASEBALL STADIUM.

IT'S CUT AND DRY APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WE WENT THROUGH COVID WITH.

AND I RESPECT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT FOR SIX YEARS IS JUST FOOLISH, I THINK, IN OUR CODING, FOOLISH IN OUR ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN FOR THEM TO JUST ACCIDENTALLY REMOVE ALL THAT NATURAL GROWTH, THAT WAS, UH, AGAIN, A SLAP TO OUR FACE.

BUT THIS PROPOSAL DOES LOOK QUITE IMPRESSIVE.

MUCH BETTER THAN I EVER THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE AND HAVE TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET.

THANK YOU, MATT.

YES, SIR.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO WHAT MATT SAID.

HEARING NO.

ALRIGHT, JIM, I HAVE NOTHING.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, PASSES.

ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON APARTMENTS AT 1 28 WEST PLANTATION DRIVE.

AND I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

[5. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED MCDONALD’S AT THE INTERSECTION OF FM HIGHWAY 2004 AND NORTH YAUPON STREET WITH LAKE JACKSON RESIDENTS]

ITEM IS WHAT EVERYBODY'S HERE FOR AND YOU HADN'T ALREADY HEARD, BUT MCDONALD'S HAS ALREADY PULLED OUT, SO SOME OF Y'ALL MIGHT WANT US NOT STICK AROUND.

I DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STICK AROUND FOR THAT.

WE CAN DISCUSS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS ORDINANCE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED AND I WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE CITIZENS OF LAKE JACKSON BEING HERE.

SO PLEASE DO NOT RUN AWAY QUITE YET.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS.

ALRIGHT.

I PREPARED A LITTLE PREAMBLE, ACTUALLY, UH, SALLY AND, UH, SHERRY DID, UH, LET ME READ THROUGH THIS.

START WITH LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED YOUR LETTERS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSED MCDONALD'S.

WE UNDERSTAND AND SYM SYMPATHIZE WITH THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE SHARED AND HOW THIS MIGHT AFFECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU DON'T KNOW.

WE HAD A MEETING LAST MONTH ABOUT THIS.

FIRST WE SAW ABOUT IT AND THERE'S NOTHING I READ IN ANY OF THE LETTERS THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS HERE AND COME UP WITH OUR OWN, UH, ISSUES.

UM, THAT SAID, OUR ROLE IS LOOK AT ALL SIDES.

THERE'S THE PEOPLE RESIDENT SIDE AND THE ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE RESIDENTS.

YOU CAN'T THROW EITHER ONE OUT, SO YOU GOTTA TRY TO COME TO MUTUAL.

AND THAT'S THE, UM, ROCK AND HARD PLACE THAT WE'RE IN UP HERE.

TONIGHT'S MEETING'S, OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO, FOR US TO LISTEN TO AND GATHER YOUR INPUT.

THE ACTION FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE SHARED, UH, WITH MCDONALD'S, WHICH SINCE THEY'RE PULLED OUT.

NO, BUT IT'S GOOD TO DOC.

LIKE, UH, MATT SAID IT'S GOOD TO DOCUMENT THIS, HOW PEOPLE HAVE COME TOGETHER.

I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE.

SO, UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SPEAK THAT SPEAKS TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND FOR THAT REASON, TO THE MICROPHONE THAT RECORDS EVERYTHING.

FOR THAT REASON DON'T SPEAK.

WE ASK YOU NOT TO SPEAK FROM THE SEATS 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP AS WELL.

SO IF YOU GOTTA SPEAK, COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PREAMBLE I HAD.

SO WE'VE GOT A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

WE CAN START DOWN THE LIST.

FIRST ON THE LIST IS BILLY WATSON, BUT I STILL WANNA SPEAK .

FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU EACH ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THIS BECAUSE YES, GO AHEAD AND CLAP.

I DON'T CARE.

I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DO KNOW WHAT IT IS TO, TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT EACH ONE OF YOU TAKE.

THAT'S NOT A BUTTER UP JOB THAT'S REALLY DEEPLY FELT.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I, I GUESS IN A LOT OF THE GOOD NEWS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE

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IS I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TO SAY AS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ORIGINALLY, THANK GOD.

BUT ONE THING THAT I DO ABOUT THE PROCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS NEIGHBORS, WE KIND OF GOT IN THIS AT, AT, AFTER YOUR LAST MEETING, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AUGUST, AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE A PROCESS, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW YOUR PROCESS OR DOESN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO GET YOUR PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO DIG THROUGH EVERYTHING.

I EVEN ASKED PEOPLE OUTSIDE AND THEY SAID, WELL, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

AND, UH, I, I THINK ONE THING, AND I'VE TALKED TO BILL UNI ABOUT THIS, APPARENTLY Y'ALL USED TO DO THIS, BUT IF IT'S A B ONE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT NEIGHBORS, I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME FEEDBACK WAY UP FURTHER IN THE PROCESS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING.

I, I MEAN IT, BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING THAT GOES ON.

THERE IS SO MANY RUMORS GOING AROUND RIGHT NOW.

NOT GOOD ONES, NOT GOOD ONES.

PEOPLE.

AND, AND I'M SPEAKING FROM MY HEART, I HATE RUMORS, I HATE UNTRUTH.

BUT YET WE SEE TONS OF IT.

AND SOME OF IT IS DAMAGING EVEN TO Y'ALL.

I KNOW.

I I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SEE THEIR, TO BE DAMAGED.

AND SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS THAT COMES OUTTA THIS WHERE ESPECIALLY OTHER, OTHER ZONING, I DON'T CARE.

BUT BE ONE WHEN YOU'RE BUTTED UP AGAINST A NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THIS IS ALWAYS GONNA BE ISSUE, Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED NEED TO GIVE SOME INPUT FURTHER UP AND IT WOULD CUT OFF A LOT OF PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

OH, IF YOU KNEW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO HAVE HIM DRIVE ME FOR A MONTH AFTER THIS SURGERY.

CRAZY .

NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL COMING TO SEE YOU WHEN YOU WERE IN ELECTED OFFICE.

OH, I'M GLAD WE CAN BE FRANK NOW.

OR FACILITIES WHICH ARE EITHER HAZARDOUS, NOXIOUS OR OFFENSIVE TO AN ORDINARY, REASONABLE PERSON BECAUSE OF CONGESTED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC GENERATION OR REMISSION OF NOISE, VIBRATION, SMOKE, DUST, PARTICULATE MATTER, ODOR MATTER, HEAT, HUMIDITY.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WANT TO SECOND THAT.

UH, I WANNA THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR BEING A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I DIDN'T QUITE REALIZE I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON A CITY COMMITTEE AND JUST HAVING TO TAKE THE COURSES AGAIN FOR, UM, OPEN MEETINGS AND SUCH.

I DIDN'T QUITE REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT WHAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES IS AND WHAT AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION IT IS ON THIS COMMISSION AND HOW YOU CAN IMPACT LIVES.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE BURDEN.

SO I WANNA SAY THAT NO MATTER WHAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EVERY ONE OF YOU.

UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, BILL AND I HAVE HAD SOME INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS AS WE USUALLY DO AT OUR HOUSE.

HE HAS MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAT I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA BRING UP IS IF, IF A BUSINESS, UH, SUCH AS MCDONALD'S IS PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE OR, UM, A A TYPE OF THAT BUSINESS TIMES HAVE CHANGED SINCE THIS ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN AND WHAT WAS ENVISIONED YEARS AGO IS NOT WHAT EXISTS NOW.

IN FACT, YOU MENTIONED DRIVE THROUGH MR. GOBERT.

I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO YOU ON PURPOSE AND A RECORDING LAST MONTH ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I TOOK YOUR INPUT ON, ON THE 24 HOUR BUSINESS.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED FROM WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN AND THIS MCDONALD'S OR SOMETHING LIKE IT IS REALLY NOT A B ONE BUSINESS.

IT IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING ZONE WHERE RETAIL BUSINESS OR SELECTED SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS SUPPLY COMMODITIES OR SERVICES TO MEET THE DAILY NEEDS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED.

IT'S REALLY MORE COMMERCIAL.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAYBE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR ME TO SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE AND FOR YOU TO SEE.

AND THE THINGS WE KNOW IMPACT.

WE STILL HAVE A COMMUNITY HERE AND WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU AND SO MANY CITIZENS.

WE HAVE A UNIQUE COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAVE PRESERVED, YOU PRESERVED IT IN YOUR TRAFFIC MAN MANUAL THAT I READ A WHILE BACK FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE WHAT LAKE JACKSON HAS ALWAYS HAS ALWAYS VALUED IS WHAT YOU PUT SAFETY FIRST AND FOREMOST IN MAKING NEIGHBORHOODS FEEL OUR SAFE SO CITIZENS CAN WALK, PLAY, AND PLAY THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT BRIEFLY ABOUT THE DESCRIPTION AND PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I WANNA SAY ALL DUE RESPECT, THE FIRST PART IS MANDATORY.

AND I KNOW YOU TOOK IT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT MITIGATING THE IMPACT ABOUT ANY POSSIBLE UNDUE HARM.

BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT IF, AND I'M GONNA READ IT BRIEFLY AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO INDULGE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE OR TWO.

IT SAYS, BE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE HARMFUL TO OR WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS

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I KNOW YOU KNOW IT ALL GLARE REFUSE RADIATION OR OTHER OBJECTIONABLE OMISSION ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THIS ZONE UNLESS BUILT PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2000.

SO YOU START FROM THAT AND YOU LOOK AND SEE IF IT CAN BE MITIGATED.

AND IN DOING THAT DUTY, I HEARD YOUR DISCUSSION LAST MONTH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I WANNA TO TELL YOU THAT, UM, I DECIDED I WAS GONNA COME UP AND BE MYSELF.

I TRULY BELIEVE IT CAN BE MITIGATED IN A MCDONALD'S TYPE FACILITY AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND THE TRAFFIC THAT HAS OCCURRED WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAST 20, 25 YEARS.

THINGS WHICH WE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE ANTICIPATED.

SO I WANNA TALK ABOUT CONGESTED VEHICULAR, UM, THE, UH, CONGESTED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AS BEING A HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD.

AND I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WHAT SHOCKED ME THE MOST IN READING THIS, IT REALLY SURPRISED ME.

WE TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

THERE'S IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOUR ORDINANCE, THE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS THE WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT OR BE HARMFUL TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

IT DOESN'T SAY AREA OR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S VARIOUS AREAS AS EVIDENCED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THE WAY UP YON.

UM, THOSE ARE A YON PLACE.

THEY'RE OAK FOREST, THEY'RE TANGLEWOOD TOWARD BRANDON.

THEY'RE BEACHWOOD, THEY'RE SOUTHERN OAKS, THEY'RE PLANTATION OAKS.

THEY'RE YON PLACE THERE, UH, RED OAK COURT AND ALL THE WAY UP YO POND.

WHEN YOU AND I GO THROUGH THIS TOWN, HOW MANY OF YOU, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS TOWN IS NUMBER ONE, THAT WE CAN STILL TALK.

NUMBER TWO, THAT I SEE KIDS USUALLY WITHOUT A HELMET 99% OF THE TIME RIDING THEIR MOTORCYCLES.

MO UH, GOLF CARTS, MOPEDS, MOTHERS, FATHERS PULLING THEIR CHILDREN.

YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED YOUR SAFETY GOAL.

YOU HAVE WORKED AT HAVING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WALK AND PLAY IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BIKERS DODGING EACH OTHER ON YON STREET, YOUR BIKE TRAILS.

I LOVE THAT WE HAVE SET THAT UP TO MAINTAIN THIS AREA OF THE COMMUNITY.

KIDS FISHING ALONG THE RAILS OF THE DITCHES, CATCHING NOTHING BUT STILL DOING IT FOR HOURS.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

AND SO, BUT IT'S GETTING A LITTLE, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BUSY UP YOUR POND.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT, SO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, IT ISN'T JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT IT MANDATES THE IMPACT ON AREAS.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THE WAY UP FROM 2004 TO OYSTER CREEK DRIVE.

THEY'RE A BLOCK AWAY FROM WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN A PROPOSED.

MCDONALD'S IS A SCHOOL ZONE WHERE KIDS WALK, WHERE PEOPLE WALK ACROSS AND YOU GREET THE CROSSING GUARD.

THERE'S A SECOND SCHOOL ZONE.

UH, BUT BEFORE THAT, OUR TWO PARKS, JUNIOR SERVICE, LEAD PARK, YON PARK, ALL THE WAY UP ARE THINGS THAT ATTRACT FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND TRAFFIC.

AND THE REAL REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE HOW THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS THERE WOULD'VE BEEN AN ENTRANCE OFF OF YON.

BUT 2004, THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE WAY IN OR OUT IT WOULD, THE CONGESTED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WOULD BE ON ROADWAYS, BUT IT WOULD BE IN A NO TRUCK ZONE UNLESS 18 WHEELERS ARE ALLOWED ON YON STREET.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST REPAVING , BUT MOST OF ALL, I KNOW WE'RE HERE IN SOME PROPERTY VALUE DISCUSSION.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY, I'M TOSSING THAT OUT THE WINDOW FOR JUST A MINUTE BECAUSE I'M REALLY HERE BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE LAND IS SITUATED, WHICH IS UH, IT DOES NOT FIT WHERE YOUR COMMERCIAL, IT DOESN'T, THAT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPOSITION ON THE BUSINESS, NOT A B ONE.

AND IT WOULD ATTRACT SO MUCH TRAFFIC.

AND I ACTUALLY RESORTED TO SEEING WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU CONSIDER SOME REQUESTS IN THAT I ACTUALLY CALLED TDOT AND HAD TO LOOK UP AN ACCESS MANAGEMENT MANUAL.

IT ACTUALLY EXISTS FOR TEXT DOT, IT SHOULD SURPRISE ME AND THE SAFETY OF THAT.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THAT IT IS TO BE USED TO PRESERVE HIGHWAY SAFETY AND THAT THE LOCATION AND SPACING OF ACCESS HAS A DIRECT AND OFTEN SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE SAFETY AND OPERATION OF THE HIGHWAY.

SO IT'S A 425 FOOT MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM AN INTERSECTION.

AND THAT PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF FEET.

I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO 40.

AND SO PEOPLE WOULD BE A WRECK ON A WRECK TURNING AROUND GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO A LOCATION TO EAT MOSTLY DRIVE THROUGH AS

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IT WAS DESIGNED A DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH SPACE IN A 50 MILE AN HOUR ZONE.

CAN THAT BE WAIVED? YES.

BUT ONLY IT SAYS, UH, UPON FOR OPERATIONAL SAFETY ISSUES AND WITH AN ENGINEERING STUDY.

BUT YOU CAN'T WAVE THE IMPACT OF THOSE CRASHES THAT ARE COMING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, YOU HAVE A BIKE LANE THAT GOES DOWN 2004 EVERY TIME I GO BY THE BIKE LANE ON 2004.

I HOPE THAT THERE'S NOT A BIKER.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M LIKE THE REST OF YOU, BUT I PRAY THERE'S NO BIKER.

'CAUSE I'M GOING BEHIND HIM.

I DON'T WANNA HAVE A BIKER.

UM, UH, I DON'T WANNA HAVE AN ACCIDENT WITH A, WITH A CITIZEN.

BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS GOING TWO PARKS AND THEN 0.7 MILES AWAY.

NOW, I'VE NEVER LEARNED ON MY PHONE.

MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD TELL ME BEFORE I LEAVE HOW TO ACTUALLY CALCULATE TOTAL DISTANCE WHILE I'M DRIVING.

BUT THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE BEST BRANNAN AND PEOPLE, YOUR TRAFFIC DOESN'T STOP WHEN IT LEAVES A MCDONALD'S TYPE LOCATION.

IT'S GONNA BLEND UP YOP PINE AND ALL OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS ALONG THE SIDE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO AVOID TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY TO OYSTER CREEK.

IT'S GONNA BLEND UP TOWARDS B BRANDON WHERE WE HAVE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO TRULY WALK THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL ACROSS FROM NORTHWOOD ACROSS THAT SIDEWALK.

AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU, EVERY TIME YOU SEE IT, ARE HOPING THEY MAKE IT ACROSS IN TIME BECAUSE I AM.

AND SOME OF US ARE PRAYING THAT THEY MAKE IT ACROSS IN TIME.

THIS IMPACTS A SCHOOL ZONE ALSO.

THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T STOP.

AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO AT LEAST OLD ANGLETON ROAD TURNING AROUND AND COMING BACK.

THE 18 WHEELERS MEETING A BIKE LANE THERE, THE 18 WHEELERS AND THE CONGESTED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T STOP AT THAT LOCATION AND THE STREETS.

IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP THOSE STREETS IN 2004 50 MILE AN HOUR ZONE.

BUT IT ALSO GOES INTO THE PARKING LOT WHEN YOU HAVE TO SHARE PARKING.

YOU DON'T HAVE A BIG ENOUGH LOCATION.

TRULY THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE CHILDREN AND THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING FOR THAT DRIVE THROUGH OR GOING IN THE RESTAURANT ARE GOING TO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE SOME DANGER IN THAT PARKING LOT.

I'M REALLY HERE BECAUSE WHILE PROPERTY VALUES ARE IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT AT EVERYONE'S PROPERTY, THE OWNERS, AS YOU SAID, AND THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THERE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WE'RE REACHING IN AS THE BOARD OF MY BROTHER WOULD SAY, WE'RE ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR.

SISTER TO MY BROTHER.

FACE IT KID.

YOU GOT 15 GOOD YEARS LEFT.

THAT'S MY BROTHER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

HAVE A NICE DAY TO MY BROTHER.

GOOD TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN.

TRUTHFULLY, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND DEATH IN THE, IN THE, IN THE WAY THE HIGHWAY HAS DEVELOPED AND WHAT IS PROPOSED.

SO WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS TO BE TRULY WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED AS A B ONE BUSINESS AND THAT'S NOT A MCDONALD'S TYPE.

AND THEN I LIKE TO JUST FINISH UP WITH THIS A COUPLE THINGS AND UM, YOU CAN'T GO BACK YOON BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S A NO TRUCK ZONE.

BUT THE WRECKS WILL OCCUR IN THE PARKING LOT ALSO.

AND AS WE'VE KNOWN, WE'VE HAD SOME PARKING LOT SERIOUS BODILY INJURIES AND WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE FATALITIES.

BUT THEN THE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING IN, HOW DOES AN 18 WHEELER EVEN TURN? I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS A DRIVING INSTRUCTOR AND I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE PUBLICLY.

IT TOOK ME FOUR TIMES TO PASS MY OWN DRIVER'S TEST .

I WENT ON TO BECOME A TEACHER IN COLLEGE.

I TAUGHT PEOPLE HOW TO DRIVE.

PEOPLE CAN CHANGE.

SO, SO THE TRUCK'S GONNA HAVE TO GO IN THE OTHER LANE AS IT TURNS IN, IT'S ALMOST GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE.

AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE THE LENGTH OF 11 TALL PEOPLE AWAY.

FOR MANY OF YOUR HOUSES HERE, A RED OAK COURT, 11, SIX FEET, TWO PEOPLE AWAY, AND AN 18 WHEELER WILL BE IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND SO IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, IT COULD ACTUALLY CRASH THROUGH SOMEONE'S BACKYARD OR THEIR HOUSE.

HUGH, MR. GILBERT HAD DISCUSSED, I BELIEVE LIGHT EMISSION SOUND EMISSION.

SO THAT'S NOT WHAT WOULD BE ENVISIONED FROM A TRULY NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS THAT WOULD CLOSE AT A CERTAIN HOUR.

I KNOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED, BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE SOUND EMISSION THAT BLAIRS FROM THE MICROPHONES AT A MCDONALD'S TYPE ESTABLISHMENT.

YOU ALSO CAN'T CONTROL ONE OTHER SIGNIFICANT THING THAT MY MIND KEPT RACING ABOUT.

AND THAT IS, UM, THE RADIOS FROM THE CARS BLARING AT ALL HOURS AND THEN THE LIGHT EMISSION INTO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

LAKE JACKSON HAS ALWAYS CHOSEN THE SAFETY OF ITS RESIDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST.

IT REFLECTS IT.

YOU STILL DO IT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

IF I HAD TO STAND HERE TODAY BEFORE MCDONALD'S PULLED OUT, I WOULD ASK YOU, I WOULD'VE ASKED YOU TO CHOOSE THE SAFETY AS YOU ALWAYS HAVE OF YOUR RESIDENCE, OF ALL

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YOUR SINGLE FAMILIES, HOMES OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES OVER A A A, A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION INTERNATIONAL THAT CAN LOCATE ANYWHERE, HAS A LOCATION INCLUDE AND ONE 2.9 MILES AWAY IN LAKE JACKSON.

AND SIX MINUTES I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE.

CHOOSE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL I WOULD HAVE.

JUST REAL QUICKLY, MS. CHANEY, THANK YOU.

UH, SINCE I TEND TO BE THE POINT OF YOUR, UH, LET'S JUST BE REAL CLEAR.

Y'ALL ARE HERE TO PREACH.

YEAH, WE ARE THE CHOIR.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

I RAISED MY CHILDREN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT OUR HANDS ARE TIED BY AN ORDINANCE.

AND SO IMMEDIATELY, WELL WE DON'T HAVE THE, THAT IS NOT OUR JOB.

SO LET, LET ME FINISH SO THE NEXT SPEAKER CAN GET UP.

PARKING, TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING INVOLVED.

LITERALLY WE FOUND OUT ON FRIDAY BEFORE A TUESDAY MEETING THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA LAST MONTH.

I, AND SO I WAS LIKE, OH HELL NO.

I STARTED SHOOTING THE AGENDA AROUND TO PEOPLE WHO I THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING.

THEN WE STARTED READING WHAT DID IT SAY AND WHAT WERE OUR POWERS THAT WE, THE CHOIR COULD ACTUALLY DO.

WE COULDN'T VOTE IT DOWN.

WE COULDN'T, WE COULD MITIGATE IT AS LONG AS IT FIT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT WAS B ONE AND INTERPRETED.

WE COULD NOT VOTE IT DOWN, BUT WE FUSSED AND GAVE THAT POOR ARCHITECT, HELL, NOBODY FROM MCDONALD'S WAS HERE.

AND THE REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, AND Y'ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF IT.

WHATEVER BUSINESS, IF A BUSINESS GOES IN THERE IS GOING TO HAVE A PARKING LOT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE CARS.

THANK GOODNESS MCDONALD'S PULLED OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE COMMON LONGER HOURS THAN WHAT IS COVERED IN B ONE.

BUT IT IS A PIECE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY CAN DICTATE WHAT THE OWNERS DO WITH IT WITHIN THE EXISTING ZONING.

IF IT COMES TO US, WE CAN'T.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE, OUR COMMISSION SINCE 2007 AND I'M RELATIVELY NEW, RELATIVELY NEW TO IT.

WE PUSH BACK AND FUSS AT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

BUT IF IT'S GONNA BE COMMERCIAL, UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO BUY IT, SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO IN THERE.

AND BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED, THE SIZE OF IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR A MEDICAL OFFICE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

MM-HMM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FITS IN.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY.

IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW, COULD BE A GROCERY STORE, BUT WOULD THAT BE ANY BETTER? 'CAUSE THE GROCERY STORE THAT WOULD GO THERE WOULD HAVE A GAS STATION.

ALL I WANNA SAY BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO IMPLY, I MEAN, I WAS LIKE I SAY, CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

IT'S ALL ZONING.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ALL HERE.

ALL OF US HERE LIVE HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, MS. APLIN HAD A BUSINESS THERE NEXT DOOR TO IT THAT SHE SOLD.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHURCH IS ANY HAPPIER, BUT YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND WE WILL DO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.

I GOT FACEBOOK MESSAGES, TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS FROM PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT I NEEDED TO DO AND HAD TO DO.

YEP.

NONE OF WHICH I HAD THE ABILITY TO DO.

SO LOCK, THANK YOU FOR STARTING OFF THE MEETING AS IT IS BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE 24 7.

ANOTHER THING I WANNA MENTION, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT, THIS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

NOPE.

BUT WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT THE WAY OUR CITY'S BEEN RUN SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION AND THE WAY A COUNCIL MAYORS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, I GUESS I'M ON MY THIRD OR FOURTH MAYOR EVEN IS THE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO DEAL WITH THIS TYPE OF THING SEEK OUR GUIDANCE.

THEY DON'T WORK FOR US, WE DON'T WORK FOR THEM.

BUT THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE APPOINTED BY COUNSEL TO BE YOUR VOICE HERE.

SO THEY COULD HAVE JUST APPROVED IT.

IT'S TRUE.

THANK GOODNESS.

WE LIVE AND WORK IN A CITY WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO RUN OUR CITY KNOW TO SEEK GUIDANCE FROM EITHER THE ELECTED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO ZONING ORDINANCES OR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS IT RELATES TO GUIDELINES AND MITIGATION.

SO THAT'S

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I WASN'T COMING UP WITH, OH, I'M FOR IT.

JUST DO THESE FEW THINGS.

I WAS SAYING, YOU MUST DO THESE THINGS.

HELL, I'VE DONE RESEARCH ON EXHAUST, COMMERCIAL EXHAUST THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE THEM REQUIRE THAT ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND HOPING THAT THEY WOULD THEN BACK OUT.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE.

WE'RE HERE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

EXCEPT FOLLOWING A MONDAY HOLIDAY BECAUSE THEN COUNCIL BUMPS US.

BUT, UH, THANK YOU.

I LOOK IN THIS CROWD, I WALK THROUGH THE PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY.

Y'ALL ARE MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR 25 YEARS.

I KNOW A BUNCH OF YOU AND I'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS TOWN, A BUNCH OF YOU.

BUT WHAT REALLY HAS GOT ME IS THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION, THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

JOHNSTONE 2 0 5 PEPPERMINT DRIVE.

WE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN AND WE SEEK WITHIN THE GUIDELINES AND BOUNDS OF THE LAW TO KEEP THIS PLACE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

A WONDERFUL PLACE TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY.

AND AS JURY, WE MAY HAVE 15 GOOD YEARS LEFT, A WONDERFUL PLACE TO RETIRE AND WE THANK YOU FOR IT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THAT WE'RE DOING.

MA'AM, IF YOU THANK YOU.

JUST A QUESTION.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ZONING? YES.

YOU COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.

I'M SORRY, I SUPPOSED TO BE AT A REHEARSAL, SO I'LL BE BAD AND LEAVE EARLY.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ZONING NAME AND ADDRESS? NAME AND ADDRESS? OH, SORRY.

LUCINDA.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ZONING? SHERRY, YOU WANNA TALK TO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT CERTAINLY AT A FUTURE MEETING, THE ZONING OF THIS AREA WILL BE DISCUSSED.

GOOD.

I'M NOT ASKING TO EXPLAIN HOW I JUST WANTED POSSIBLE THE LAWYER SAYS IT DEPENDS.

DEPENDS .

WELL I CAN BUY THOSE AT THE GROCERY STORE.

, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY.

THANK YOU JEFF.

THAT WAS VERY ELOQUENT WHAT YOU SAID.

IT IS BETTER.

I BETTER NOT COULD HAVE DONE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU READ THIS CALL AGAIN, MA'AM? IF YOU COULD, YOU NEED TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND I TOTALLY WILL LET, SORRY.

MY FAVORITE LIBRARIAN.

THINK WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

IT'S A LIBRARY.

SHE, HI, MY NAME IS ANTONIA MENZEL.

I LIVE BEHIND THE PATIO HOMES.

I DON'T, I HAVE A QUESTION.

AND THIS CAME UP AT AN EARLIER INTERACTION ABOUT ZONING.

AND I FELT LIKE I WAS TOLD NOT FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WAS TOLD THAT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CAN CHANGE ZONING AND IT IS ON THE OWNER'S, IT'S THE OWNER'S PRIVILEGE TO BRING THAT TO ALL THE APPROPRIATE PARTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

DID I GET THAT PRETTY RIGHT? THAT'S PERFECT.

THEY CAN REQUEST IT.

THAT'S IT.

WELL, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING IT CHANGED AND BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW THINGS KIND OF GET GOING INTO PING PONG IN LOTTERY BALL FASHION.

THERE IS A WAY AND THE OWNER CAN INITIATE IT.

NOW.

THE OWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.

THE OVERFLOW OF THE DUMPSTERS.

NEXT, UH, PERSONAL LIST IS MEREDITH BIGLER.

WELL, I HAD HIS SPEECH WRITTEN.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD SPEECH.

MY DAD WOULD'VE BEEN PROUD OF ME.

UM, 'CAUSE ALL OF HIS MONEY WENT FOR ME TO BE A JOURNALISM MAJOR AT A AND M.

SO, UM, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT I WAS WRITTEN, I'M GONNA HAVE TO THROW OUT SINCE MCDONALD'S BACK DOWN.

BUT SOME OF IT STILL DOES, UM, PERTAIN IF ANOTHER FAST FOOD PLACE WERE TO TRY TO BUILD THERE.

UM, SO LET ME SEE.

WE, UM, MY FIRST PART WAS ALL ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT CHERRY DID A GREAT JOB.

SO AMEN TO EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

UM, OF COURSE WE'VE ALREADY, LIKE Y'ALL SAID, IT'S PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.

SO, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN OF COURSE, UM, THE LOUDNESS THAT COMES WITH PEOPLE.

CAR RADIOS DRIVE, UM, DRIVE-THROUGH SPEAKERS.

WE DON'T WANT OUR BEDROOMS LIT UP.

UM, WE DON'T WANT THE SMELL OF THE CONTINUAL RUNNING SAUCE.

LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T WANT THE SMELL.

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN'T REALLY MITIGATE.

AND WE DO NOT WANT THE SMELL OF GREASE, BURGERS, FRIES, ROTTING VEGETABLES,

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EVEN IF YOU DUMP THE DUMPSTER EVERY DAY, THERE WOULD STILL BE NO MITIGATION TO RELIEVE THE AWFUL SMELL.

AND WE AS A FAMILY ARE OUTSIDE IN OUR POOL EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WE ALREADY GET FROM THE WIND, SOMETIMES THE SMELL OF THE LANDFILL.

AND THAT IS 4.6 MILES AWAY.

SO CAN YOU IMAGINE SMELLING, UM, A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT EVERY DAY IN YOUR BACKYARD? UM, RODENTS, WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE THE RODENTS, THE POSSUMS AND THE BUZZARDS.

EVEN ON TRASH DAY, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE TRASH AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.

UM, IF YOU HAVE A FAST FOOD PLACE THERE, IT'S GONNA MAKE THE ISSUE WORSE AND WE'LL MAKE THE RODENTS INCREASE IN NUMBER.

UM, AGAIN, UM, ANYTHING LIKE A FAST FOOD PLACE, THERE WOULD, UM, THERE WOULD BE EMISSION POLLUTION IN SANITATION POLLUTION.

WHILE WE'RE HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO A LADY WHO I DID NOT KNOW HER NAME UNTIL TODAY.

PAM, IS SHE HERE? PAM? NO, NEVER PAM .

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M EMOTIONAL, BUT EVERY DAY SHE PICKS UP TRASH AND SHE DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED .

AND SO I ACTUALLY, IRONICALLY MET HER RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING AND TOLD HER ABOUT THIS AND SHE WAS GONNA COME.

BUT ANYWAYS, MY POINT IS, IS THERE'S ALREADY TRASH AND POLLUTION ALL OVER THE PLACE WITHOUT ANYTHING EVEN BEING BUILT THERE.

SO THAT'S MY POINT ON THAT ONE.

UM, THESE ISSUES JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL RISK THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL, LIKE Y'ALL KEEP SAYING YOU CAN MITIGATE IT AND ANY MITIGATION EFFORTS WOULD BE INSUFFICIENT TO RECTIFY OR CORRECT THE HARMFUL EFFECTS TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

UM, GOING BACK TO FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, ANYTHING WITH A DRIVE THROUGH AT A DUMPSTER, UM, WOULD HAVE THE IMPLICATIONS THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A VERY WELL, WELL WRITTEN SPEECH, BUT NOW I'M HAVING TO DISSECT IT NOW THAT MCDONALD'S BACKED OUT.

UM, YOUR HOME IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAFE HAVEN.

THE PLACE YOU COME HOME TO AFTER A LONG DAY'S WORK, A PLACE YOU CAN CONTROL THE NOISE, THE LIGHTS, THE SMELL, THE TRASH, A PLACE WHERE YOU FEEL SAFE AND ARE AT PEACE.

SO YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IN YOUR BACKYARD.

UM, IN CLOSING, LET'S SEE HERE.

BASICALLY I ASK THAT YOU, UM, LET'S SEE, VALUE THE CITIZENS AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THEIR SAFETY BEFORE ANY KIND OF TRANSACTION DEAL.

BUT I KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE THE CHOIR.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE LIST IS ERICA STEINER.

I, WELL YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN EVERYTHING, UM, BY MCDONALD'S PULLING OUT.

SO THAT'S ALL I WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT.

THEY WERE GONNA BE IN MY BACKYARD.

I LIVE IN RED OAK COURT.

I WAS NUMBER 14.

YON THE PROPERTY BEHIND ME.

SO I WAS CONCERNED AS NOT JUST FOR MYSELF, NOT JUST FOR RED OAK COURT, BUT FOR THE LARGER AREA.

AND I WAS AMAZED AT HOW LARGE THAT VOTE EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST THIS MCDONALD'S GOING IN THERE.

AND I THINK THIS HAS HELPED TO KEEP THIS A CITY OF ENCHANTMENT AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND EFFORT.

I'M DALE LIBBY, I LIVE AT NUMBER NINE RED OAK COURT.

AND ACTUALLY JERRY DID A HELL OF A JOB.

SO, UM, THE POINT BEING THE QUESTION EARLIER WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REZONING, IT DEPENDS THE LAWYER'S GONNA TELL YOU AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO ADVOCATE TO MR. UH, UH, LARRY BACK HERE, UH, TO COME UP.

HE'S ON THE LIST 'CAUSE HE'S GOT SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.

SO COME ON UP HERE.

LARRY.

I TURN, HUH? YEAH, YOU'RE, I'M LARRY.

OH, I'M LARRY LABE.

I LIVE AT 2 2 2 PEPPERMINT DRIVE.

AND THE THING I WAS GONNA BRING UP, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, I WAS TRYING TO GET TO WHERE THEY COULDN'T BUILD A, UM, DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT THERE AND I GOT TO LOOKING AT INFORMATION I COULD FIND AND HOW DO YOU, I MEAN, I LOOKED IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, PUT AN ORDINANCE OUT STATING BASICALLY, AND I'LL READ IT, IT SAYS DRIVE-THROUGHS AND SPEAKER BOXES MUST NOW BE AT LEAST 200 FEET FROM, FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

ONE PROPERTY AS FAR AS PUTTING A FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH TYPE RESTAURANT THERE.

I'M ASSUMING OUR CITY COUNCIL COULD DO THE SAME TO PUT THAT IN AN ORDINANCE.

MAYBE I'M WRONG.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT

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SO I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP IN MY SPEECH.

I HAD ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

ALSO, I WILL ALSO SAY AS FAR AS THE LAKE JACKSON, THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS IN LAKE JACKSON ARE IN PRETTY GOOD PLACES.

I TRIED TO FIND EVERYONE.

I MEAN, OUR LOCATION I THINK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD TWO RESIDENTIAL SIDES TO THAT LOT.

TO A LOT WHERE A DRIVE THROUGH IS GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, BEING PUT UP THE REST OF THEM.

THERE'S NOT HARDLY AFFECTING RESIDENTS AT ALL.

THE ONE THAT DOES IS THE OLD ONE, THE DAIRY BAR, YOU KNOW, THEY, IT'S RIGHT BEHIND.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER.

AND THIS RESIDENCE IN THIS ORDINANCE, THEY PUT, IF YOU ALREADY THERE, YOU GET TO MAINTAIN UNLESS YOU CLOSED IT DOWN FOR A YEAR AND THEN IT HAS TO START OVER.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD DEAL AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA PUSH FOR IF I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA GO FORWARD.

BUT I GUESS WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCILORS SOME, I DON'T KNOW THE RULES.

EXACTLY.

HOW DO YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN? WELL, WE EXP LIKE JERRY TALKED ABOUT THE MITIGATING THINGS, UHHUH , WE WENT DOWN THAT PATH AND SHERRY CHIMED IN ON THAT, HOW FAR WE COULD PUSH THAT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS INSIST ON SOUND LEVEL, UH, LIGHT LEVEL.

SO IN EFFECT YOU CAN GET THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT SUCH RESTRICTIONS ON THE SOUND AND LIGHT THAT THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T DO IT ANYWAY.

SO WE CAN BE IT LIKE IT IS AND WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY AS LONG AS THE LAWYER LOVES .

WELL, AGAIN, I THANKS FOR WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU ALLOWED 'EM SO FAR BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY IN THE RIGHT PLACES IN LAKE JACKSON.

I WAS IMPRESSED.

I TRIED TO LOOK EVERYONE UP AND I DROVE THROUGH TODAY, EVERYWHERE I COULD FIND BEFORE I GOT HERE.

THAT, THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION I ASKED THAT WE HAD A MEETING THE OTHER DAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PLACES THAT FIT THIS KIND OF, UH, PROBLEM AND THE CITY'S ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT, EXPLORED THAT AND THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER THAT WE KNOW OF.

RIGHT? THIS WOULD COME UP LIKE THIS.

SO REZONING WOULD BE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, ANSWER FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, GET OFF TOPIC HERE.

CHERRY WILL PROBABLY GET ON ME, BUT OKAY.

THE, UH, WHEN YOU START TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONE ON SOMEBODY THAT OWNS EXISTING PROPERTY, YOU'RE DENYING THEM USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY IT'S OKAY IF THE OWNER RIGHT TO CHANGE IT, BUT IT'S HARDER FOR US TO CHANGE EXISTING.

WE MAY NOT BE ABLE GONNA CHANGE THE ZONE, BUT WE CAN UPDATE THE ZONING GUIDELINES.

VERY GOOD.

APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.

YOU.

NEXT ON THIS IS ALICE ROYALTY.

NEXT IS DEBBIE MCQUAIG MC.

IS THE DAIRY BAR, UM, BUILT IN 1951.

DI UH, WHAT JERRY AND BILLY AND DEBBIE MCQUAID 19 RED OAK COURT.

AND DITTO WHAT JERRY IN AND BILL WATSON SAID.

YEAH, EVEN YOU JUST COME AND SAY DITTO IS GOOD 'CAUSE IT GETS IT ON THE RECORD.

2 2 6 PEPPERMINT DRIVE.

CLASS OF 79.

CLASS OF 79 YOUNGSTER ALONG WITH NEAR WITH COTTON TWO 80.

UM, PEPPERMINT DRIVE IS PARALLEL TO Y POND, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED WHERE MCDONALD'S WOULD'VE BEEN.

SO I WAS GONNA OPEN WITH SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE ODOR, LIGHT POLLUTION.

BUT I HAD A DIFFERENT ANGLE AS I LOOKED AT THIS ZO MAP.

BEEN HERE MY 60 YEARS, ALMOST ALL OF IT.

THERE'S EIGHT RESTAURANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE B ONE ZONE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

THAT'S THETO, THE TOKYO STEAKHOUSE, THE SHANGHAI RESTAURANT, WHICH RECENTLY BURNED THE EL TACO SPOT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO SHANGHAI.

THE ALL THOSE ARE ON 3 32.

THE RESTAURANT PLANTATION OR NEAR PLANTATION, THE LAKE JACKSON SEAFOOD, WHICH IS THE OLD PIZZA HUT.

THERE'S THE SUBWAY THERE ON THE CORNER.

THERE'S THE TACO MADRES, WHICH IS THE OLD SONIC.

AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT THERE USED TO BE A KETTLE RESTAURANT ON THE CORNER OF FLAG DRIVE THAT BURNED DOWN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

ONE THING THAT ALL THESE HAVE IN COMMON, NONE OF THEM ARE NEAR A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THEY'RE ALL IN THAT ZONE, BUT THEY'RE VERY FAR REMOVED FROM A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THE ONE EXCEPTION THAT LARRY BROUGHT UP, WHO'S MY NEIGHBOR ALONG WITH PAUL,

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BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, BUT IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ADJACENT TO ANY RESIDENCE.

THE OTHER THING THAT ALL THESE RESTAURANTS HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT THEY'RE ALL OPEN LESS THAN 12 HOURS A DAY.

SOME OF THEM ARE LESS THAN 10 HOURS A DAY.

SO IF YOU GO LOOK AT, THERE'S THREE AREA MCDONALD'S, THEY'RE ALL OPEN 24 7.

THE ONE IN ANGLETON'S OPEN 24 7.

THERE'S ONE IN WEST COLUMBIA.

IT'S THE SAME.

SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT CURRENT PRACTICE AND PRECEDENT AND THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S AN ANGLE THAT THIS 24 7 OPERATION DOESN'T MATCH WHAT LAKE JACKSON HAS SAID AS A PRECEDENT AND, AND PAST PRACTICE.

HOURS OF OPERATION IS ONE OF THE MITIGATE THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE, WE WERE GONNA MITIGATE HOURS OF OPERATION.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD GO FROM FIVE TO 10, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY WE WANTED TO MITIGATE IT, THEY'D OWE PULL OUT.

YEAH, WE WERE DOING A LOT OF MITIGATING LAST MONTH.

WELL, YOU WERE, I WA I WA I WATCHED THE VIDEO ALSO AND IT'S LIKE, IT WAS VERY, IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING.

IT, IT WAS INTERESTING.

BUT, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHERE JERRY STARTED WITH THE, UH, DEFINITION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN MCDONALD'S MARKETING PLAN FOR THIS Y POND.

OYSTER CREEK DRIVE FROM ABOUT NINE 30 TO 10 O'CLOCK TILL FIVE IN THE MORNING.

IT'S PRETTY DEAD.

SO THEY WERE NOT DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SUPPORT THEM.

THEY WERE DEPENDING ON TRANSIENT TRAFFIC TO, TO DO THEM.

SO TO GO BACK TO THE DEFINITION OF THE, UH, THE B ONE, THE SECOND SENTENCE BASICALLY DESCRIBES WHAT CAN'T BE THERE AND WHAT CAN'T BE.

THERE IS THINGS THAT REQUIRE RESOURCES FROM OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I MEAN, IT TALKS ABOUT MOVIE THEATERS AND OTHER THINGS, BUT IN GENERAL TERMS, THAT'S WHAT IS SPEAKING TO IS THINGS OUTSIDE THE, THE AREA.

AND THEN OF COURSE PARTS ABOUT ODOR, GLARE AND SO ON, SO FORTH.

BUT AN ANGLE.

THANK YOU DAVID.

THANK NEXT IS LUCINDA JOHNSTON.

SHE ALREADY TALKED JERRY'S HUSBAND'S NO .

THE OLD HORSE RETURNS.

JUST ANYTHING LIKE THE UH, BUDGET.

UH, THE BUDGET.

OH, YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET? I CAN REACH YOU.

THE LAST ONE.

BUDGET MESSAGES WERE KNOWN FOR.

I USED TO HAVE 200 PAGE BUDGET MESSAGES.

MODESTO HAS ONE AND A HALF.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WHICH IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE, I SUPPOSE.

NO, I WOULD OFFER, I TALKED TO MATTHEW A. LITTLE BIT, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, I WOULD OFFER TO COME OUT OF RETIREMENT TO WORK AGAIN ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WE LAST SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON 25 YEARS AGO.

YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT? UH, NO.

THERE'S NO RESTRICTION ON WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

YES, PEOPLE WILL BE UPSET IF YOU CHANGE SOME THINGS UP.

THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

YOU CAN HAVE WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS.

FAMILY FITNESS WAS A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR FOR US.

BEAVER'S CORPORATE OFFICE HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR FOR US.

TO WORK WITH MEMBERS OF STAFF, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THIS.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS 25 YEARS AGO, A LOT GOT CHANGED, BUT WE DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB AND WE NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN.

UH, SO THE DIFFICULTY COMES IN THAT WHAT WAS CONSIDERED B 1 65 YEARS AGO WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IT.

NOW, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED 65 YEARS AGO, THE STREETS ROLLED UP AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE STILL ROLLED UP AROUND SIX 30 OR SEVEN.

, UH, ME IN PARTICULAR.

BUT NOWHERE IN THE ORDINANCE DOES IT DEFINE WHAT THE DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT IS.

NOWHERE IN THE ORDINANCE DOES IT, UH, DEFINE TRULY WHAT COULD BE IN THAT ZONE.

AND THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY.

WE, WE FOUGHT THAT BATTLE 25 YEARS AGO AS WE WORKED ON IT.

AND THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO WHERE WE WERE.

SO I WOULD OFFER, AND I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD AS WELL,

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'CAUSE B ONE SEEMS TO BE A THROWBACK ZONE TO AN OLDEN DAY.

AND THERE WERE NO 24 HOUR DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS, NO 24 HOUR RESTAURANTS IN LAKE JACKSON 65 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO WHEN MOST OF THESE HOMES WERE BUILT.

EVEN 25 YEARS AGO.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE STARTED HAVING WHATABURGER WAS THE FIRST 24 HOUR DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT IN TOWN.

AND IT'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF BROUGHT UP THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT THAT CORNER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO YES, THINGS CAN BE ALTERED AND CAN BE CHANGED, AND YOU DO NEED TO RESPECT EVERYBODY ON ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE.

SO IF SOME KIND OF EFFORT IS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PLANNERS, THE CITIZENS, THE DEVELOPERS, I'D BE GLAD TO SIT DOWN AND OFFER WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP IN THAT REGARD.

BECAUSE THINGS AREN'T ETCHED IN STONE.

THINGS CAN BE CHANGED.

IT'S HAPPENED FOR YEARS.

BUT WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL CITY COUNCILS WONDERFUL PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND OUTSTANDING STAFF AND, UH, GREAT CITY ENGINEER IF HE'S STILL AWAKE, .

BUT I TRUST YOU GUYS IMPLICITLY.

YOU HAD A GREAT MEETING.

UH, YOU WERE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I SPOKE TO WERE THE SAME WAY.

SO I DO OFFER THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A WAY THROUGH THIS AND I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

UM, AND IF YOU BREAK A FEW EGGS, SO BE IT.

WE'LL JUST MAKE AN OMELET OUT OF IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, BILL.

NEXT UP IS JUDY FOSTER.

JUDY FOSTER, FIVE RED OAK COURT.

UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, WHY DID MCDONALD'S CHANGE THEIR MIND? WAS IT THEY KNEW HOW UPSET ALL OF US WERE? UM, WHAT WAS RELAYED TO ME WAS THAT, UM, THEY DON'T, THEY WOULD LOOK FOR A, A LESS CONTROVERSIAL SITE.

SO DID THEY SEE ANY OF THE LETTERS THAT WE WROTE? YES, WE, UM, WHEN I SPOKE THE PLANNING, THE CITY SECRETARY AND I SPOKE TO THEM EITHER ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

AND, UM, WE, UH, GAVE THEM THE PACKET THAT WAS POSTED SO THEY COULD SEE ALL THE MATERIAL.

BUT AGAIN, WE DID, THE STAFF HAS NOT TALKED TO MCDONALD'S DIRECTLY ONLY TO THEIR ENGINEER ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS REPRESENTING, REPRESENTING THEM.

AND SO WE GAVE THEM THE FULL PACKET OF MATERIAL, THE HISTORY.

AND AFTER YOU GOT A DECK ON THE PACKET IS WHEN THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS.

UM, OUT, UM, WE ONLY HEARD TO TODAY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UH, THROUGH THEM, THE PROPERTY OWNER TOLD US THAT, UH, MCDONALD'S HAD BACKED OUT.

I SAID, BUT WE HAD NOT HAD A DIRECT CONVERSATION SINCE, UH, MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WATCH THESE VIDEOS ALSO LIVE.

SO, JILL LE BAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW LARRY? SURE.

JILL LE BAY 2 2 2 PEPPERMINT DRIVE.

WE ARE ONE OF THE THREE HOUSES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS YOUR POND FROM WHERE THIS SITE IS.

UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK THE RED OAK SUBDIVISION BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT INFORMED PEPPERMINT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAME AROUND WITH THE PETITION.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GOT ALL THIS DONE.

UM, SO THE, THE FIRST GENTLEMAN THAT TALKED MENTIONED OF INFORMING PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THE VICINITY OF, OF SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE THIS.

I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE EVEN SAID YOU KNEW IT WAS NOT RIGHT.

SO IF SOMETHING'S GONNA BE GOING IN, IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE FOR PEOPLE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THAT ZONING, ZONING OR WHATEVER TO BE CONTACTED A LETTER, AN EMAIL.

Y'ALL, THE CITY HAS ALL OUR INFORMATION, OUR ADDRESSES, OUR EMAILS.

IF THEY COULD JUST SEND SOMETHING OUT, JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW.

AND THEN THAT WAY EVERYBODY WILL BE READY.

I MEAN, THERE'S, IF SOMETHING, THERE'S LAWS THAT REGULATE THAT, AND THIS SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU SPEAK OF IS READILY AVAILABLE ON LAKE JACKSON'S WEBSITE.

I MEAN, THIS COSTS MONEY TO SEND OUT LETTERS.

WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY THESE THINGS WEREN'T DONE.

I KNOW IT'S 35 CENTS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON A GOVERNMENTAL BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES.

UNFORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY, I, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.

I JUST

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IT, IT WASN'T BECAUSE, OH, WE WANNA SNEAK ONE PAST 'EM OR MCDONALD'S.

LIKE, LIKE WAS SAID EARLIER, MCDONALD'S LITERALLY WAS BROUGHT UP 72 HOURS BEFORE OUR MEETING MM-HMM .

AND IT WASN'T, WASN'T ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT, OH, WELL WE CAN'T SEND IT OUT QUICK ENOUGH OR THIS OR THAT.

IT'S, THERE ARE REGULATIONS SET BY THE STATE, NOT BY US, NOT BY THE COUNTY, NOT BY SOME OTHER BEING MM-HMM .

IT'S BY THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN IT COMES TO THESE NOTIFICATIONS.

SO, BUT ALL THIS INFORMATION IS, I MEAN, VERY FEW PEOPLE VISIT LAKE JACKSON, YOU KNOW, TEXAS.GOV OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WHEN ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TO BE, ALL THESE PAMPHLETS, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, EVERYTHING THESE GUYS ARE DOING EVERY DAY IS ON THAT.

AND EVERY MEETING, EVERY MINUTE, EVERY VIDEO IS, WE'VE PROBABLY SPENT WAY MORE THAN YOU COULD IMAGINE, KEEPING ALL THAT UP TO FOLLOW STATE GUIDELINES MM-HMM .

SO THAT WE DON'T GET PUNISHED, THAT WE DON'T BREAK THE LAW, THAT WE DON'T OPEN OURSELVES UP FOR LAWSUITS AND SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.

I DO A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU.

1 MILLION TRILLION BAZILLION PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU MM-HMM .

BUT THERE ARE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW MM-HMM .

THAT IF, I MEAN EE EVEN, LIKE, WE CAN'T EVEN TALK OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS.

WE'LL GET IN TROUBLE.

THE STATE, THE STATE WILL SANCTION THE CITY.

I MEAN, IT, IT'S A CRAZY THING, BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A COMPLETELY OPEN NO BACKDOOR DEALS.

I GET A FREE SWIMMING POOL FOR SAYING YES TO MCDONALD'S, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PROTECT.

SO THE WAY THAT THEY TRANSMIT THIS INFORMATION HAS TO BE SET FORTH BY THE STATE, HAS TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE STATE.

SO IF WE WERE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA SEND THESE LETTERS OUT, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, THIS, WE COULD LITERALLY GET SUED BY MCDONALD'S INCORPORATED FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINE.

WITHOUT POTENTIAL MASSIVE GOTCHA.

AND THERE, SO THERE AGAIN, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THERE ARE SET FORTH ITEMS THAT WE JUST PHYSICALLY CAN'T DO MM-HMM.

FIRE BACK AND KICK BACK AND, AND THEY GOT A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE GOT.

THING IS, SO LOOK AT THE AGENDA BEFOREHAND.

YES, MA'AM.

SO WE KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO BE OR, OR NOT.

AND IT'S EASY TO DO BECAUSE YOU NOW KNOW THAT THE OWNERS WHO ARE G THEY'VE BEEN GOOD LAND DEVELOPERS IN OUR AREA, THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY WE KNOW ARE A ACTIVELY MARKETING THAT.

CLOUD OF LAND.

AGAIN, LIKE MATT SAID, WE GET OUR AGENDAS THE FRIDAY BEFORE OUR TUESDAY MEETING AND THEY'RE POSTED ON THE AGENDA CENTER, HOW TOPICAL, RIGHT.

I FOUND ALL THAT OUT.

IT IS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION.

I LITERALLY, WHEN I GOT THE AGENDA, I STARTED TRYING TO SEND IT TO PEOPLE THAT I HAD EMAILS OF FROM WHEN I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

SO YOU CAN DO THAT SINCE YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING ACTIVELY MARKETED TO SEE WHAT'S COMING UP.

SO I'LL MAKE A, A QUICK, A QUICK NOTIFICATION ON THE WEBSITE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP TO GET THE AGENDAS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OR COUNCIL.

THOSE ARE THE TWO AUTOMATICALLY.

NO, THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT AGENDAS TO WATCH FOR.

IF, IF SOMETHING'S GOING TO, TO DEVELOP IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ALWAYS SIGN UP ON THOSE AND REGISTER FOR THAT.

YOU GET THE AGENDA, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT NINE OUTTA 10 TIMES, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA THROW IT AWAY.

UH, UNLESS SOMETHING CATCHES, OH, I'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON THERE.

SOMETHING CATCHES YOUR ON.

BUT YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR ALL THE AGENDAS AND YOU CAN GET A NOTIFICATION ON THOSE.

OH, WOW.

OH, OKAY.

GOOD TO KNOW.

AND YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR EVERYTHING.

I KNOW YOU DO THAT.

OH, AND THANK Y'ALL.

YES, MA'AM.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.

COME UP.

I DID WATCH YOUR VIDEO FROM LAST WEEK, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, I MEAN, FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD IT SAID THAT MCDONALD'S APPROACHED THE CITY BACK IN AUGUST.

IS THAT TRUE? UH, SAL, DO YOU KNOW WHEN? YEP.

THEY PROBABLY STARTED, UH, USUALLY WHEN A DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, SOMEONE LOOKS FOR A DEVELOPMENT, THEY APPROACH STAFF FIRST AND TALK.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SO THAT INFORMATION IS NOT PASSED ON TO THE COUNCIL OR ANYBODY ELSE? IT, IT IS PASSED ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONCE IT GETS POSTED ON TO THE AGENDA.

AND SO THEY SEE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

SO IN THIS INSTANCE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

IT WAS A TWO ACRE SITE.

UM, WONDER, IT DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT STAFF, WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING A LONG STANDING STAFF.

WE KNEW, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE CONCERN AT THIS SITE, UH, SAL AND I BOTH HAD A HISTORY OF IT, SO WE BOTH DECIDED THAT THIS NEEDED TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, AND IT WAS A PRELIMINARY MEETING.

IT WASN'T A MEETING.

MCDONALD'S DID NOT ASK FOR A, AN OFFICIAL ACTION.

WE ENCOURAGED MCDONALD'S TO COME TO THE MEETING AND GET INPUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THEIR DESIGN AND STUFF.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO, THEY COULD HAVE SKIPPED THAT PROCESS, AND THEY COULD HAVE SAID, WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING OUR PLAN AND ASK THEM TO VOTE ON IT.

SO THE PROCESS WORKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED, WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

BUT THEY, UH, THEY AGREED WITH STAFF AS WE THEM TO COME TO THIS INITIAL MEETING AND GET AND PRESENT THEIR IDEA OF THE SITE AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TAKE THAT AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE OR COULD MAKE ANY, ANY CHANGES AND STUFF.

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UM, AND, UH, USUALLY WHEN WE GET IN A MEETING, UM, THEY USUALLY HAVE 15, WE HAVE USUALLY 15 DAYS.

UH, AND THEN IT GETS, UH, POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

THEY HAVE A DEADLINE TO MEET OF SO MANY DAYS, UH, THAT WE HAVE AT HIS STAFF BEFORE IT CAN BE PUT ON, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SOMETHING ELSE, HE'S, HE SPOKE ABOUT THE TWO ACRE RULE, UH, UNDER TWO ACRES.

WE LOSE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CONTROL AND INPUT ON THAT.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SET FORTH, AGAIN, BY POWERS TO BE, SO THAT'S, WELL, I GUESS CONCERN ABOUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, REVISIT THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF CAN FALL UNDER THE TWO ACRE RULE.

I'M SURE THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT YOURSELF.

I'M, I'M SURE THAT WILL ALSO, UH, GET DISCUSSED.

I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, SPEAK FOR A FUTURE STAFF.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT SAL'S BEEN HERE 88 YEARS.

OH, .

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THIR 31.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY, UH, OF, OF DOING THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, OF COURSE, SOMEDAY WILL BE STAFF TURNOVER.

AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A NEW CITY MANAGER, NEW CITY ATTORNEY, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN AND WOULD'VE SAID, OH, IT FALLS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.

AND WOULD'VE, WELL, I'M GLAD YOU MAKE THAT POINT, BECAUSE I WAS ALSO GONNA MAKE THAT IN MY SPEECH THAT I DIDN'T DO WAS THAT I WAS AT DOW CHEMICAL FOR 41 YEARS.

AND NOT THAT THAT'S ANY BIG DEAL, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AT ME THAT RETIRED AT THE SAME TIME.

WHEN DOW CHEMICAL LOST TONS OF TECHNOLOGY KNOWHOW AND WHATEVER, THAT WILL NEVER BE REPLACED BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER DOCUMENTED CORRECTLY OR WHATEVER.

THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH ALL OF US WHEN WE MOVE ON.

THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY YOUNGER COMING HERE AND THEY WON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE ON BEFORE THEM.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE YOU TRY TO PROCESS IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

YOU LEFT IT TO ME BOTH, AND IT JUST, I GUESS, AND I'LL SHUT UP, BUT I, I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING THAT SURPRISES ME IS I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THREE OR FOUR DAYS AFTER Y'ALL HAD A MEETING ON IT.

AND THEN TO HEAR Y'ALL DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING.

I MEAN, I, THE, THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND GOOD THERE.

THERE'S A HUNDRED PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE DOOR AT CITY HALL AND, AND AGAIN, MONEY, IT COSTS MONEY TO PRINT THESE PAMPHLETS.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY TREES WE TAKE DOWN EVERY YEAR FOR THESE STUFF.

SO IF WE WERE TO COMMUNICATE AND HAVE A MEETING AND POST ABOUT EVERY GROUP THAT CAME THROUGH THE DOOR, YOU GUYS PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE TAXES, WHICH ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FUN, FUN AND EXCITING.

BUT, BUT I'M NOT, IT'S, BUT I DON'T EVEN, I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, MATTHEW, THE FACT THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL STAND AND CORRECT AND DEFEND THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A FIRST.

THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP.

MCDONALD'S STILL HAD MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THEY HAD THEIR INITIAL MEETING, SO THERE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A FIRST TIME THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS GONNA SEE IT.

THAT WAS THAT NIGHT.

THERE WAS NO WAY THAT THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION.

WE ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

MOST LIKELY IF MCDONALD'S STILL WANTED TO PURSUE THIS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN IT UNTIL JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

AT THE EARLIEST.

BUT, BUT, BUT SEE, THE AVERAGE PERSON ON THE STREET, I MEAN A FIFTH OF, OF, UH, THE SUBDIVISION I LIVE IN, YOU GOT ME, CAN'T EVEN THINK NOW, BUT RED OAK COURT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU KNOW ANOTHER REASON I LIVE THERE, BUT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT AGAINST Y'ALL.

REALLY? I DIDN'T.

BUT A FIFTH, A FIFTH OF OUR CITIZENS IN THERE ARE WIDOWS THAT HAVE, THEY, SOME OF 'EM HAVE SONS, SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.

AND THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT, OH, THIS, I'VE GOT TIME TO, TO WORK ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MIGHT BE FIVE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

Y'ALL ARE USED TO THAT SORT OF THING.

WE'RE NOT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL USES PEOPLE'S MINDS AND STARTS SAYING, MAN, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, RUMORS START FLYING.

ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM, IS TRYING TO MAKE Y'ALL'S JOB EASIER AND, AND OUR LIVES BETTER TOO, AT THE SAME TIME.

OH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

WELL, WITH REGARD TO RUMORS, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT, I DON'T CARE WHAT LEVEL OF CIVIC DISCOURSE, WHETHER IT'S LOCAL, STATE, COUNTY, OR NATIONAL, WE'RE ALL TO BLAME.

AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT DAMN RUMOR, SHUT UP.

STOP IT, STOP THE RUMOR, REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY.

WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CITY STAFFS OF ANY CITY IN THE STATE AND PROBABLY THE COUNTRY.

AND IT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THAT WAY.

IF YOU ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU HEAR AND IT'S GETTING UGLY AND IT'S GETTING A RUMOR, PICK UP A PHONE AND CALL SOMEONE, THEY'RE HERE.

YOU AGREE?

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PAM WATSON, 22 RED OAK COURT.

AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST FIND OUT ABOUT, AND IT'S GONNA BE FROM FRIDAY TO TUESDAY ON THE AGENDA, I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA VOTE ON THAT ACTUAL TUESDAY, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED TIME.

LIKE IN THIS CASE, WE NEEDED TIME TO GET PETITIONS TO, TO TELL PEOPLE THIS WAS HAPPENING, TO GET PEOPLE TO SAY, WHOA, I DON'T WANT THAT.

OR, OR WHATEVER.

AND WE WOULD NEED TIME.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED.

UM, YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY, IT WORKED IN THE TIMEFRAME WHAT MODESTO TOLD YOU IT WAS GONNA BE MONTHS BEFORE THERE WAS GONNA BE DECISIONS THAT WE COULD VOTE UP OR DOWN ON.

WELL, I, THEY ASKED US FOR GUIDELINES.

THAT'S WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT WHAT THE STAFF, I MEAN, I TEASED 'EM LAST MONTH FOR PUTTING IT ON US, BUT I APPRECIATE THEY PUT IT ON US.

BUT, AND WE MADE A POINT, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW.

SO, SO IT REALLY WORKED AND Y'ALL DID IT VERY TIMELY.

AND WE FOLLOWED STATE LAW WITH REGARD TO PUBLICATIONS OF NOTICE IT, IT, IT'S WORKING AND YOU MADE IT WORK FASTER THAN I WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED.

WE TRIED, WE TRIED HIGHLY MOTIVATED, AND WE GOT EATEN ALIVE WITH MOSQUITOES.

BUT WE TRIED, AND I'LL, I'LL MAKE ANOTHER POINT.

IT JUST, THERE IS A, I MEAN, THERE IS A LARGE DIFFERENCE IN THAT.

I THINK SOME MAY BE UNDER THE MISNOMER THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING A LOT OF THINGS BEFORE AND GIVING FEEDBACK TO A DEVELOPER AND STUFF.

AND WE WILL SEE SOMETHING AND BOUNCE IT OFF AND GIVE THEM IDEAS.

SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE THAT FEEDBACK.

THEY CANNOT MEET, THEY CANNOT SEE ANY OF THIS BEHIND THE SCENES.

I DON'T, WE CAN'T BRING THEM IN, YOU KNOW, TO TALK AS A COMMITTEE WHEN THEY MEET, THEY HAVE TO MEET IN PUBLIC.

SO WHEN WE BRING THEM SOMETHING THE, THEY'RE SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR THEM TO START HAVING MEETINGS BEHIND THE SCENES AND LOOKING AND TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE DEVELOPER STAFF HAS THAT FLEXIBILITY OF LOOKING AT THAT AND TELLING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AS FROM THE TECHNICALITIES OF THE SITE PLAN OF WHAT THEY NEED TO PUT ON THE SITE AND STUFF.

SO THEN THAT CAN BE PRESENTED, UH, TO THE BOARD.

BUT THE BOARD JUST DOES NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY OF AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT, OH, WE CAN CALL THEM IN AND THEY CAN LOOK BEHIND THE SCENES.

REALLY THE MESSY PART OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE GOOD PART OF GOVERNMENT IS YOU GET TO SIT AT THE KITCHEN TABLE WHILE THEY DISCUSS IT.

I'D BE A LAST PERSON TO SAY ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT BUREAUCRACY.

BUT THIS IS ONE CASE WHERE IT, I MEAN, IT WOULD LITERALLY, LIKE VANESSA SAID, AND JEFF, IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS FOR, IF THIS WAS TO PROCEED WITH MCDONALD'S GOING, IT WOULD BE SEVERAL MEETINGS SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE IT GOT THE POINT OF THEM.

IT'D PROBABLY BE A YEAR MORE BEFORE THEY GOT TO BUILDING ANYTHING.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF BUREAUCRATIC STEPS THAT, IN THIS CASE, I HATE TO SAY IT ARE GOOD.

SO SURE.

MAY I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? ERICA STEINER, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW WE EVEN FOUND OUT ONE OF OUR MICROPHONE, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS SAW SOME PEOPLE MEASURING OUT IN THE FIELD, AND THEY, SHE GOT OUT OF HER CAR, SHE WENT OUT THERE AND SHE SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON? THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE ENGINEERS FOR MCDONALD'S AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS LOT.

SO SHE IMMEDIATELY CALLED ME.

I IMMEDIATELY CHECKED THE WEBSITE, SENT OUT AN EMAIL THAT HAD THE VIDEO FROM THE FIRST MEETING THAT Y'ALL HAD JUST HAD AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION.

BUT SHE FOUND OUT BECAUSE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'D WANT ME TO GIVE YOU HER NAME, BUT, UH, WE, I'M SO HAPPY THAT SHE GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON, ? THIS IS MY JOY.

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS I WAS THE DAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD AND USE THE MICROPHONE, UH, THE DAY BEFORE, NAME AND ADDRESS, I'M SORRY, JOY COLEMAN, WHAT HOUSE DO WE LIVE IN? 31 HAPPENS.

31 RED OAK COURT.

I WAS JUST OUT IN TOWN AND I, I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO JUST MAKE CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY IN LINE OR WHATEVER.

AND THIS GUY SAID, OH, YOU LIVE IN RED OAK COURT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING, UH, YOU'RE GETTING A MCDONALD'S BEHIND YOU.

AND I SAID, WHAT? HE SAID, YOU'RE GETTING A MCDONALD'S, UH, BEHIND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THEN I SAW THE TRUCKS WITH A SMOKE COMING OUT, AND I'M NOSY.

SO I'M THINKING, WELL, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? AND SO I PULLED OVER AND ASKED THEM, AND THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T SAY IT WAS MCDONALD'S.

THEY JUST, THE GUYS SEEMED NOT TO WANNA TELL ME EXACTLY WHO THEY WERE WORKING FOR.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

BUT THEN, UM, HE SAID, WELL, YOU DO KNOW THAT MCDONALD'S TRIED TO BUY THIS PROPERTY A YEAR AGO.

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I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL WAS, BUT THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT.

AND THEN, THEN I CALLED OUR TOWN CRIER AND I TOLD HER, AND SHE LET US ALL, YOU KNOW, IN ON WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO AVOID EVERYBODY.

WE WORK TOGETHER IN RED OAK COURT.

NEXT ON THE LIST IS BARBARA ILLA .

I AM BARBARA ILLA.

I AM A RESIDENT OF RED OAK COURT, 10 RED OAK COURT.

I'M AN ATTORNEY.

I WORK WITH A FIRM IN PEARLAND, THE FURY LAW FIRM.

I'M ALSO A PORT FREEPORT COMMISSIONER.

SO I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU.

AND OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN RECORDS RE REQUIREMENTS.

I ALSO APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING VOLUNTEERS, GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY ARE SUBJECT TO.

AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET USED TO THAT SORT OF, OH, THIS IS THE AGENDA.

UH, WE GET AGENDAS AND WE SAY, WELL, WHERE'S THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT? CAN YOU GIVE US THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT? SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE HIT WITH A LOT OF THINGS BEFORE YOU'RE EVEN READY TO THINK ABOUT IT.

AND I DO APPLAUD YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS.

I HAD WRITTEN YOU A LETTER AND IT PROBABLY GOT TO YOU BEFOREHAND ABOUT MY CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THE B ONE ZONING AND PERMITTED USES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS VERY ENCOURAGING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MODIFY IT, CHANGE IT UP, MAKE IT MORE APPLICABLE TO THE CURRENT STANDARDS.

UM, I'M, I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE NOW KNOW, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE THIS, THAT THEY COULD ACCESS AGENDAS.

YOU KNOW, WE DO THE SAME THING ON OUR COMMISSION.

WE SAY, HERE'S THE AGENDA, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT.

AND AS THE FORMER IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY FOR THE PORT OF HOUSTON AND SOME OTHER ENTITIES, BEFORE I BECAME A PORT COMMISSIONER, I KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE, AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I KNOW IS WE HAVE A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT ON PEOPLE COMING AND SPEAKING.

SO I'M SELF IMPOSING A FIVE MINUTE LIMIT.

THE NEXT NAME, I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME.

IT'S PAUL ARD.

ARD.

THERE YOU GO.

MY NAME IS PAUL BEDARD.

I LIVE AT 2 2 4 PEPPERMINT DRIVE, WHICH IS RIGHT BETWEEN THE JOHNSONS AND THE LA .

I CAN SEE THAT ENTIRE LOT FROM MY BACKYARD.

ACTUALLY, MY MASTER BEDROOM FACES THAT WAY.

NOW.

I WASN'T GONNA SPEAK UNTIL LARRY SHOWED ME THAT THE DRIVEWAY WAS GONNA COME RIGHT AT MY BACKYARD.

UH, SO I'M GLAD THAT MCDONALD'S CHANGED THEIR MIND, BUT WHATEVER GOES IN THERE IS STILL GONNA BE A SAFETY CONCERN.

NOW I'VE LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I BUILT THAT HOUSE 33 YEARS AGO.

UH, WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY GO DOWN, I'VE SEEN HAD ONE PERSON JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS, ONE YEAR CAME RUNNING DOWN PEPPERMINT DRIVE AND THOUGHT HE'D EXIT OUT TO 2004, WHICH IT DOESN'T.

WELL, THEY FOUND THAT OUT THE LAST MINUTE.

THEY MANAGED TO AVOID THE FIRE HYDRANT.

BUT IN MY FRONT YARD, TOOK OUT TWO OF MY CHRISTMAS ANGELS THAT I HAD OUT THERE.

MISSED A BIG TREE IN FRONT OF LARRY'S HOUSE THAT BEFORE HIM, I MEAN, BEFORE THEY MOVED BETWEEN DAVID'S HOUSE BEFORE HE EVEN MOVED THERE.

AND I FOUND WHITE GLITTER ALL THE WAY DOWN BACK UP AND DRIVE BECAUSE THEY DRUG ONE OF THEM WITH THEM.

SO I DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT THROUGH THERE, COMING THROUGH THERE, WOULD TRY TO GO THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT.

NOW I'VE LIVED THERE, LIKE I SAID, 33 YEARS.

THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS, BUT THERE 2004 IN YO POND, I MEAN, LOTS OF THEM.

AND SOME PEOPLE SAID, RED FERN, THEY CAN'T HEAR THE, THEY CAN'T HEAR THE UH, NOISE, MAN, YOU OUGHT TO BE IN MY HOUSE AND LISTEN TO ALL THE RADIO.

LOUD RADIOS COMING THROUGH THERE.

THE MOTORCYCLES THAT RACED UP AND DOWN THERE IN 2004.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE RED LIGHTS NOW, THEY JUST RECENTLY ADJUSTED THE RED LIGHT TIMER THERE AT 2004, WHERE MORE THAN ONE CAR CAN GET THROUGH AT A TIME NOW.

BUT THERE'S BEEN SCREECHING TIRES

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UH, IT'S JUST BEEN HORRENDOUS RIGHT THERE.

AND IT WOULD ONLY GET WORSE WITH A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT THERE.

NOT TO MENTION THAT I'D PROBABLY GET ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING OUT THE DAMN LIGHTS IF THEY DROVE IN BY BACKYARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANKS SIR.

NEXT, I THINK IT'S LYNETTE BROOKS.

IS THAT RIGHT? I'M COMING.

HANG ON.

, MY NAME IS LYNETTE BROOKS.

I LIVE AT 4 0 8 DAFFODIL STREET.

AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW TICKLED I AM THAT MCDONALD'S HAS PULLED OUT.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING 'EM HELL.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN MOST INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHAT I COULD FIND ON YOUR WEBSITE.

I CONFESS, I'VE NEVER REALLY SPENT MUCH TIME THERE.

UM, MY QUESTION, I THINK TONIGHT, SINCE I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE WEBSITE YET, IS, UM, HOW CAN I HELP, HOW CAN I HELP YOU PUT A NEW, UH, REDO THE, THE REZONING OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? HOW DO I HELP? ONE WAY IS LET THE, LET SALLY KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING ON A COMMISSION, THAT'S A GOOD START.

THAT GETS YOU KIND OF PLUGGED INTO THINGS.

THAT'S THE WAY I STARTED ON TRAFFIC AND ENDED UP HERE.

SO YOU CAN WORK YOUR WAY.

DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

THERE'S OH, I'M NOT GONNA LIVE ON THAT.

HAVE DOZEN IN DIFFERENT, YEAH.

UH, COMMISSIONS.

SO FIND ONE YOU LIKE PARKS OR WHATEVER.

THAT'S A THANK YOU ALL.

THAT'S GOOD WAY TO GET PLUGGED IN WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN IF, IF, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT BILL ENDS UP RUNNING THIS, UH, REDOING THE ORDINANCES, THEN WE'LL, THEY'LL BE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC INPUT.

THEY'LL BE STUFF PUT OUT FOR THAT.

A GOOD TIME TO START LOOKING.

AND YOU CAN, IT USED TO BE IN THE NEWSPAPER, SO I ASSUME IT STILL IS, BUT GET ON THE CITY WEBSITE AFTER CITY ELECTIONS.

THAT USUALLY KIND OF COINCIDES WITH THE NEW COUNCIL, APPOINTING PEOPLE.

OR REAPPOINTING PEOPLE.

AND WE'RE LUCKY WE SERVE ON STAGGERED OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS ALL RUN BY CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE.

AND THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE.

Y'ALL ARE ALL DOING MAG AN AMAZING JOB.

LET ME ADD REAL QUICK.

I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING 'CAUSE IT'S NOT MY MEETING.

THEY'RE MEETING.

AND SO I WANT TO STAY OUT OF THE, THE DISCUSSION.

BUT AS FAR AS THE REZONING IS, IS WHEN WE GO BACK AND REVISIT THIS, UH, WE'VE GOT COMMUNICATION.

WE KNOW IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY GONNA IMPACT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THIS, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED IS THIS IS WHERE WE'VE GOT THE LAST ISSUE AT.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

IS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO REVIEW IT AND, AND BE DISCUSSING IT AND LET Y'ALL KNOW.

OKAY? BUT IT'LL BE, AGAIN, LIKE MODESTO WAS SAYING, IS IS THAT IF YOU GO ON A WEBSITE, YOU CAN SIGN UP AND GET COPIES.

I GET COPIES OF THE EMAIL, I MEAN OF, OF THE AGENDAS.

UH, 'CAUSE I'M ON COUNCIL ALSO 'CAUSE I'M A CITIZEN.

'CAUSE I SIGNED UP FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE PROCESS TO US.

SO YOU CAN, AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY? WELL, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ABOUT THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE ANYBODY SITTING IN THOSE SEATS THAT'S NOT ON AGENDA LIKE A BOY SCOUT GETTING HIS MERIT BADGE OR SOMETHING.

SO PLEASE COME.

I MEAN IT HELPS COME SHOW UP.

NEXT IS PAULA EGGMAN.

STARTS WITH A D LIVES 19 SOMETHING.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS STEVE HARVEY.

OH.

OH, WOW.

NO, NO.

HARVEY NEXT IS WILLIAM.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU.

MY NAME IS KIMBERLY STARR.

I LIVE AT 53 SOUTH TRILLION COURT IN LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.

AND PROUD TO DO SO.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT YOU, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE ACTUALLY GONE OVER THE MINUTES ON YOUR PHONE PLAN THIS LAST FOUR MONTH, FOUR WEEKS WITH A NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS THAT YOU, UH, FIELDED AND MAY CALLED PEOPLE BACK.

UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO TRANSPARENT.

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THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE TO US, UM, TO EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE I, I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE, WE'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

HAVE WE NOT? YES MA'AM.

UM, ALSO WITH AS MUCH AS I WANT TO THANK YOU, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS IS A MUCH DIFFERENT MEETING TONIGHT AND I THINK WE'RE ALL RELIEVED.

I ALSO WANNA THANK MY NEIGHBORS, UM, OVER THE LAST FOUR WEEKS FROM FINDING OUT ABOUT THE MEETING THAT YOU GUYS HAD LAST MONTH WHILE I WAS DOING MY SHOPPING IN KROGER FROM, FROM A, FROM A NEIGHBOR CALLING ME DOWN THE STREET.

I THINK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET MOBILIZED PRETTY QUICKLY.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND WE WERE UNDER.

WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT WE TALKED TO DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT ON THIS PROPERTY.

UM, AND LET ME BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S BEEN TOUCHED ON WELL ENOUGH TONIGHT.

AND THAT IS, OUT OF EVERYONE THAT WE SPOKE TO, NO ONE IS AGAINST A BUSINESS BEING AT THIS LOCATION.

OKAY? WE WE'RE ALL SITTING IN THIS ROOM AND WHEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OF BUSINESS, THE, WHETHER WE WORKED FOR ONE OR WE OWNED ONE, UM, I HAVE LIVED, MY PARENTS ACTUALLY MOVED HERE IN 89 AND BUILT ONE OF THE FIRST HOUSES AT CAL LILLY AND CROCUS.

IT WAS, I WENT OFF TO COLLEGE, HAD NO PLANS ON BEING IN LAKE JACKSON AT THE TIME WHEN THEY MOVED HERE.

CAME BACK AND FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.

MET MY HUSBAND AND NOW THEN I'VE MOVED BACK ONTO TRILLION COURT WAS, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE BLOCK OVER IN UM, 99.

AND WAS PROUD TO DO IT.

WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO SEE THE HOUSE.

WE KNEW IT WAS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, GREAT PEOPLE, AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT.

THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR HELPING US DO THAT.

BUT I ALSO THINK IT UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF US CITIZENS BEING INVOLVED, KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PROCESS.

WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

MAKE THE PHONE CALLS TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

TALK TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'RE WILLING TO TALK TO US AND THEY WILL DO IT.

AND EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO US.

I'VE MET A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT ON MY WALKS THIS LAST WEEK.

UM, SOME OF YOU, I'VE KNOWN SOME OF THE FACES BEHIND THIS DESK AND IN THE AUDIENCE I'VE WORKED WITH, EITHER ON VOLUNTEER PROJECTS IN THE PAST OR OUT AT DOW OR AT SI.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT HAS BEEN A GREAT COMMUNITY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT LEGACIES, WE TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING UP DON'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW.

WELL.

I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO RAISE OUR FAMILIES AND TO HAVE SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT PRIDE IN OUR CITY SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS LEGACY AND BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

FOLKS, YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS IN THE LAST FOUR WEEKS.

I APPLAUD YOU FOR IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

AND AS SO MANY HAVE SAID, IF THERE'S NOW THEN THAT WE KNOW HOW TO HELP, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE CALLED TO COMPLAIN TO AND ASK THEM HOW WE CAN BE PART OF THE FINAL SOLUTION SO THAT WE'RE NOT BACK HERE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

WONDERING WHY DID WE LET THIS FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS? WHY DIDN'T WE GIVE OUR COMMISSIONERS ROOM TO MOVE AND TO PROTECT US AS THEY HAVE SO TRIED TO DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT EDDIE, IT'S YOUR SHOW.

THAT'S THE LAST PERSON ON THE LIST.

ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? NOW IS THE TIME.

NO.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S THAT END OF THAT AGENDA.

THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL COMING.

THIS, WE NEED THIS KIND OF PARTICIPATION, SO APPRECIATE IT.

THANK Y'ALL.

IT'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN IT SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE I WAS STILL WORKING IN HOUSTON AND THE NOT DRIVING THING.

'CAUSE I'VE LIVED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MA'AM.

AND I HAD TO GET RIDES TO HOUSTON AND I DID WELL.

IT STARTS IN TWO WEEKS.

IT'S A TERRIBLE, BY THE WAY, BEEN THERE.

SHE AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING IT.

IT'S A HORRIBLE REHAB.

ALL RIGHT.

THEY MAKE IT GOOD.

GOTTA FINISH YOUR, UM, THEY TEAR STUFF.

OH, OKAY.

NOW DON'T REMIND ME.

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STAR OF THE SHOW, MAN.

I'VE WAITED FOR ALL DAY.

[6. UPDATE ON APPROVED PROJECTS BY PLANNERS]

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON DEVELOPMENT? MATTHEW? UH, TAKE FIVE.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THEY SEEM TO BE SCREWING UP SOME, UH, PLUMBING AT THE LOCAL CONVENIENCE STORE.

IS THAT SO? OH NO.

I'VE HAD TO GO MULTIPLE DAYS WITHOUT MY FOUNTAIN DRINKS BECAUSE IT ALL BACKING UP INTO THEIR STORE.

WOO.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

IT'S BRAVE.

YEAH, NO, I GOTTA SEE FOUNTAIN DRINKS HAVE BACKED UP FAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DRINKING.

BACKED UP.

I SAID I WENT WITHOUT, I DIDN'T GO GET THEM.

THEY SHUT THEM OFF.

OH MY GOD.

I, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

ANYTHING ELSE, MATT? I NO.

'CAUSE WE, YEAH, WE ALREADY CROSSED THAT, THIS BRIDGE, SO I CAN'T ASK ABOUT THAT.

NO, I'M GOOD.

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT, CAN WE TAKE THE, DOES THE RESCO STACK, THERE'S THE LIST YEAH.

NEED TO BE ON THERE? OR DO WE STILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT'S FINISHED.

WHICH ONE? THE RESCO RESCO STACKING.

STACKING LANE.

I THINK IT'S COMPLETE.

IT'S COMPLETED.

THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WERE CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, TURN LANE, THEIR ALTERNATE TRAFFIC PLAN, THEY, THEIR IS UNIQUE SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE GOING OUT THERE.

OH, SO IT'S NOT A IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTION.

I, UH, QUESTION IT.

IT SHOULD HAVE, IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE ANYMORE.

YEAH, WE SHOULD TAKE IT OFF.

IT SHOULD FALL OUT OF IT.

IS THE COMMISSION OKAY WITH REMOVING THAT ONE? YES, SIR.

GO TRAFFIC COMMISSION NOW.

ANYTHING ELSE? MODESTO? NO, I WAS JUST ASKING ON THAT ONE CAR.

UH, NOTHING NEW, BUT I REALLY ENJOYED HOW TONIGHT WENT.

EVERYBODY CHECK THEIR CALENDAR.

UH, I LOVED EVERYTHING THAT THE CITIZENS SAID AND ALSO WHAT OUR, OUR BOARD SAID, UH, THE, THE SYSTEM REALLY AND TRULY, IT WORKED HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A MEET AND GREET WITH A A BUSINESS.

THEY SHOWED US THEIR HAND AND WE TOLD THEM WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE WITH THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT OF COURSE STARTED THE BALL RUNNING FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE, THAT SYSTEM WORKED AS IT AS IT SHOULD.

THAT'S IT.

HARRY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

GOOD JOB.

ALRIGHT.

YOU'RE THE MAN, EDDIE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE GOT ANYTHING TO SIGN? NEGATIVE GHOST WRITER.

WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING, ANNA? ON TUESDAY.

DECEMBER THE SECOND.

MISS DECEMBER THE SECOND.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCILMAN.

ABSOLUTELY.

ATTORNEY AND THE MANAGER, CITY MANAGER FOR SHOWING UP.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO, I WANTED TO BE HERE AND LIAISON.

SO HE'S, HE'S GONNA BE HERE, BUT I WANTED TO BE HERE JUST TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR YOU GUYS.

AND UH, ALSO I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE SAID, SAID, I MEAN, JUST LIKE Y'ALL, I GOT PHONE CALLS AND, UH, THE BIGGEST THING WAS EVERY TIME I TALKED TO THE FOLKS, UH, YOU KNOW, I LISTENED JUST LIKE YOU GUYS DID.

AND, BUT I TOOK THE TIME TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND I JUST ASKED, LET LET THE PROCESS WORK, LET, LET, LET US WORK IT THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN VERY EASY FOR US TO BE LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND JUST LET IT EXPLODE AND BLOW UP BECAUSE WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.

GOOD OR BAD IS WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO THE TIME TO THINK, TALK IT THROUGH.

AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING TO TALK ABOUT.

BUREAUCRACY WE'VE ALWAYS SAID IS GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT MOVES SLOWLY AND IT'S A GOOD THING.

IT DOES BECAUSE AGAIN, BECAUSE OF, UH, TIMING YOU HAVE BEEN, IF GOVERNMENT DIDN'T MOVE SLOWLY, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A UP DOWN VOTE, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER.

OR JUST LET IT HAPPEN.

AND SO, UH, AGAIN, I THINK WE, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE GOTTA GO BACK.

WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT AND ADDRESS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL WILL WORK WITH, WITH YOU GUYS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START TALKING TOUCHING ZONING IS, UH, I WORK THROUGH THAT AND SAY, SO I EXPECT THAT WE'LL DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'VE GOT TO, UH, BE CAREFUL OF UH, YOU KNOW, JEFF'S A LAWYER AND JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO SHERRY IS IS THAT, UH, WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL BECAUSE AGAIN, HE'S GOT A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY BOUGHT IT TO MAKE A PROFIT OR TO MAKE MONEY AND UH, WE CAN'T BE SEEN TO BE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM HIM.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE FINE LINE WE'VE

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GOTTA FOLLOW IN CONVERSATION.

SO, UH, BUT ANYWAY, Y'ALL DID GREAT AND, AND, AND, UH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE Y ON, ON, Y'ALL ARE ALL SENIOR PEOPLE AND YOU, YOU GOT LEVEL HEAD.

HEY, JUST CALL US OLD KIDS, CALL US ALL, HEY, HEY 40, TAKE IT BACK BOX THERE.

BUT ANYWAY, YOU GOT SENIOR PEOPLE AS FAR AS BEING IN, IN INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND UH, THAT'S A LOT OF VALUE THAT .

I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF, MODESTO, SHERRY, SALLY, SAL, EVERYBODY.

THEY CALLED ME IN LAST WEEK TO GET MY MIND RIGHT ON HOW TO RUN, HOW TO, HOW TO HANDLE SO HOURS TO GET .

I WAS REALLY SWEATING THIS.

THEY TELL ME TO DO A REMEDIAL COURSE.

DO IT AGAIN.

I WAS REALLY SWEATING THIS.

AND WHEN MODESTO CALLED ME THIS AFTERNOON AND SAID THAT WE, I BET IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING, I WOULD LIKE TO, DID I SLEEP THROUGH NUMBER SIX, THE UPDATE ON ALL THESE THINGS? OR IS IT YET TO COME? BECAUSE I'M GETTING THE IMPRESSION YOU ALL ARE READY TO ADJOURN.

WE WERE ASKED IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THINGS AND WE DID NOT ADDRESS.

DONNA BOYD, I'M IN PARTICULAR.

SO WHEN THEY'RE LISTED LIKE THIS, I NEED TO COME WITH THE QUESTIONS.

I JUST CAN'T BE PREPARED TO HEAR THE ANSWERS ON THE UPDATES.

YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S EDDIE'S ROLE IS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ALL THOSE.

COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM.

THE ONE I DIDN'T SIGN TO SPEAK.

I'M JUST SURPRISED, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME UP.

I'M NOT EITHER WAY.

UH, I REALIZE THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT.

THE ONE YOU HAVE LISTED HERE FOR THE SPCA NAME AND ADDRESS.

DONNA BOYD ADDRESS.

SIR ADDRESS.

OH, I LIVE, UH, 3 27 ATCH, ONE OF THE NEW HOMES THERE.

AND I'M INTERESTED BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE STALLED.

IS THERE AN UPDATE ON FUNDING OR, I DON'T KNOW.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING UP HERE.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

HE ANSWERS THOSE THINGS.

YOU WERE, HERE'S A COPY OF THE UPDATES.

THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.

IT COMES WITH THE AGENDA.

THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T PRINT IT.

THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT IT'S, IN OTHER WORDS IT'S ON THE SITE AS WELL.

I'LL REMEMBER THAT THOSE HIGHLIGHTED THINGS ARE THE THINGS THAT CHANGED THIS MONTH.

ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL.

AND, AND THANK THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT.

DON'T REMEMBER NOW.

I KNOW IT'S ON, IT'S TO BE PRINTED, BUT REMEMBER IS THE SBCA BUILDING IS IS A BUILDING OF A PRIVATE ENTITY.

IT'S NOT A CITY.

I KNOW IT'S A NONPROFIT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I KNOW THE CITY ONE IS COMING ALONG VERY NICELY, BUT I'M ALSO AWARE OF THE MASSIVE PROBLEM THEY HAVE AT THE SPCA AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW.

SO THAT'S WHY IT INTERESTS ME, UH, TO SEE WHETHER IT'S A FUNDING OR WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM THAT.

SO, BUT I'LL REMEMBER TO PRINT THIS NEXT TIME.

YOU, I, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH, WE HAVE NO OFFICIAL WORD.

UM, YOU GET NOTHING FROM THAT OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROJECT OTHER THAN RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE CONSTRUCTION HAS HALTED.

UM, YEAH, I, I, I, SO, UM, BD WOULD THE ONE I'M SURE THE DIRECTOR TO, TO, TO UPDATE ON THAT, BUT UH, OKAY.

I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THEY KEPT YOU, YOU ALL INFORMED OF IT.

BUT I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TECHNICALLY INVOLVED.

BUT I'M ABSOLUTELY THRILLED WITH THE ONE WE'RE BUILDING FOR LAKE JACKSON BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS HELP FOR THEM.

I'M SURE.

SO, OKAY.

YOU HIT ON THE HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE THINK IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF OUR MEETINGS.

EDDIE GIVES UP AND TALKS ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS AND THAT'S YEAH, I KNOW THAT NOW WE LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW THAT.

NOW I'M LEARNING.

I WASN'T KIDDING WHEN I SAID HE'S THE STAR OF THE SHOW.

WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

AND I'LL REMEMBER TO PRINT THIS NEXT TIME.

SO THANK YOU NUMBER.

GET HIS PHONE NUMBER, .

GET IT POOR.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

WE KNOW WHAT NEXT MEETING

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IS.

UH, YEAH, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK Y'ALL.