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YEAH.I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR SIX 30.
TO THE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 REGULAR SESSION OF LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL.
HELD AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.
AND WE'LL BEGIN THE EVENING WITH THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN HANYA I, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND IT, THE MENT FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY.
AND JUST HONOR, HONOR, BE TEXAS STATE UNDER GOD.
ONE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY COUNCILMAN BU THAT IS FREE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THIS EVENING.
AND AS OUR MEETING CONTINUES AND THIS DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE, WE ASK FOR YOUR STRENGTH.
GIVE US STRENGTH, WISDOM, COURAGE, TO MAKE A DECISION THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT OF OUR CITY.
PLEASE BE WITH OUR EMT FIRE AND POLICE PERSONNEL AS MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR OWN FORCES.
EVERYBODY HAVE A SAFE AND NICE.
NEXT ITEM IS VISITORS COMMENTS.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY VISITORS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDAS, HAVE ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THIS IS WHERE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CAN DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA.
DOES ANYONE NEED TO DECLARE A CONFLICT?
[CONSENT AGENDA]
NOT HEARING ANY.WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT HEARING ANY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COUNCILMAN HANYA, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.
ALL IN FAVOR ON CONSENT AGENDA, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED
[1. Discuss and consider adopting a utility payment plan and procedure policy that addresses delinquent bills. – James Bryson]
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA.I AM ON, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, ADOPTING A UTILITY PAYMENT PLAN AND PROCEDURE POLICY THAT ADDRESSES DELINQUENT BILLS.
JAMES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
MAY, WE'RE CLICKING RIGHT ALONG HERE, AREN'T WE? UM, SO THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A UTILITY PAYMENT PLAN THAT WE, WE ADMINISTER TO THE CITIZENS.
WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY FINALIZED IT WITH COUNCIL.
THE MAIN POINT OF THIS ONE IS REALLY THE FOCUS IS THE, TO, UH, MAKE THE PLAN WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF PAYMENT.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE COMING TO COUNSEL TONIGHT TO ASK IS, UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE NUMBER TO US.
AND I THINK WE HAVE CURRENTLY 19 PAYMENT PLANS OUT.
UM, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM, THEY PAID TWICE A WEEK.
THEY PAID BIWEEKLY AND IT'S 25 TO $50.
AND FOR A WATER BILL THAT USUALLY, YOU KNOW, UNDER A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS, SIX MONTHS IS ADEQUATE.
UM, WE'VE HAD A FEW COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN RELATIVELY SMALL AS WELL.
SO SIX MONTHS IS A GOOD NUMBER FOR US.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT OPEN TO WHERE YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO SIX MONTHS IS A GOOD NUMBER AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.
THIS IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
THEY BOTH CAN HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN.
BUT YOU'RE SUGGESTING SIX MONTHS.
THAT IS THERE A REASON SO LONG? 'CAUSE THAT REALLY SEEMED KIND LONG BECAUSE WITH THE, WITH THE DEAL THAT WE HAD WITH THE APARTMENT AND WE SAID WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON IT MONTH TO MONTH.
AND SO REALLY EVEN A PAYMENT PLAN SHOULDN'T BE, THAT WAS MORE OF AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE THAT ONE GOT AWAY FROM, AND THAT ONE WAS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO THOSE NOW.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT THE LATE PAYMENT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE MORE THAN A MONTH LATE.
YOU AS LONG AS THEY, THEY CAN HAVE THE, THEY, THEY KEEP THE CURRENT PAYMENT AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE UP THEIR REALLY WHEN IT COMES INTO EFFECT, WE HAD SOMEBODY LIKE, SAY THEY HAD, THEY, THEY WERE PULL IN AND THE, THERE WAS A BILL.
IT WAS LIKE $1,500 WORTH OF WATER TO FILL THE POOL.
AND SO SHE COULDN'T DO $1,500, BUT SHE REQUESTED A PAYMENT AND PLAN FOR THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY WHEN THERE'S KIND OF AN EXCEPTION.
AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN WE DO THAT OVER, LIKE WHEN OUR FISCAL YEAR HAS ENDED? UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T AFFECT US REALLY VERY MUCH AT ALL.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T, IT'S MINIMAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE MOST PART.
IT'S ANOTHER ENTRY IN THE JOURNAL THAT YOU HAVE? YEAH, IT'S JUST A ENTRY WE HAVE ABOUT,
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EVERYTHING'S A JOURNAL ENTRY.UH, BUT THAT'S USUALLY SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON WATER.
AND THOSE USUALLY AREN'T FAILURE TO PAYMENT PLANS AND SOMEONE WHO JUST LEFT, LOSE THE LEFT AND DOESN'T PAY THE FINAL BILL.
AND SOMETIME WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS WHERE, I MEAN, SOMETHING COMES UP AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OPERATING FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND SOMETHING COMES UP ONE MONTH AND UH, THEY HAVE TO, UH, COME IN.
THEY JUST CAN'T, THEY JUST NEED SOME HELP.
AND THIS WILL OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THEM THE HELP AND, YOU KNOW, GIVING 'EM SIX MONTHS.
I THINK IT'S, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT ALWAYS SIX MONTHS.
THIS WAS JUST UP TO SIX, IT WAS JUST UP TO, IT'S NOT TO 66 SUCCESS.
AND WE DID CALL THE OTHER CITIES AROUND THE AREA AND THAT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE NORM UP TO SIX MONTHS.
AND DO WE TYPICALLY GET A DEPOSIT DOWN ON COMMERCIAL? ON COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL ON BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
WHEN THEY FIRST COME IN, THEY SET UP A HUNDRED DOLLARS ON RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN ON COMMERCIAL THEY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BILL WAS, WHAT THEY BASED OFF OF THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND THEN TRY TO HAVE THEM SET THAT, THAT MONEY ASIDE.
NOW ON THE COMMERCIAL THOUGH, IT STAYS FOREVER, UNTIL THE ACCOUNT'S CLOSED ARE RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK IF THEY'RE A GOOD CUSTOMER THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS.
THREE YEARS AND THEN THEY GET IT REFUNDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO SIR.
ARE YOU WANTING APPROVAL ON THIS, IT, THIS AND THEN I THINK AT ONE POINT ONCE WE HAVE THESE, THEN CHERYL WILL COME BACK WITH A PRETTY MUCH AN ORDINANCE TO CLEAN THEM ALL UP AND PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT? UH, A VOTE.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM ONE.
MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A UTILITY PAYMENT PLAN AND PROCEDURE POLICY THAT ADDRESSES DELINQUENT BILLS AS PRESENTED.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN S SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR A VOTE.
ITEM APPROVED AND UNANIMOUSLY.
[2. Discuss and consider adopting a water meter testing policy. – James Bryson]
OKAY.ITEM TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A WATER METER TESTING POLICY.
SO WE HAVE A POLICY WITH REGARDS TO WATER METERS.
UH, THE CITY ORDINANCE, UH, THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S A $2 CHARGE FOR THE METER TEST.
AND THAT WAS DONE YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
THE PRICE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $110.
'CAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE, WE'VE GOTTA TAKE THE METER OUT TO SEND IT OFF.
IS THAT CORRECT? A METER? RIGHT.
UH, AN ACTUALLY NEW METER RUNS ABOUT 1 55.
AND SO, AND THE COST OF TEST THE METER IS 1, 1 10.
SO I THINK WHAT WE WERE DOING RECENTLY HAS JUST BEEN REPLACING THE METER, BUT WE'VE HAD FOUR PEOPLE WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS THAT WE'VE, UH, HAD REQUESTED TESTING BECAUSE, UH, THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THE, UH, CITY WAS, UM, TESTING IT CORRECTLY.
SO WE'RE USING A, A THIRD PARTY.
NOW IF THEY, IF THEY REQUEST THAT AND THEY, AND IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO EVEN TEST A RELATIVELY NEW METER.
ONE LADY, THE OLD METER AND THE NEW METER BE TESTED NOW AND, BUT AT $2 A POP.
SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ALL BE WORRIED ABOUT.
THIS IS, AND AGAIN, IF THE METER TEST FAULTY, THE RESIDENT'S NOT CHARGED AT ALL, UM, WE SWALLOW THAT, BUT IF IT TEST ACCURATE, THEN THAT FEE WOULD BE PASSED ON TO THE RIGHT.
AND THEN THE ORDINANCE ALSO STATED THAT THE RESIDENT HAD TO BE THERE WHEN WE TEST AND WE PUT IN THERE THAT THEY, THEY CAN NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THERE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE.
SO ARE WE SENDING OFF TO A THIRD PARTY OR ARE WE DOING IT WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY.
SO WHERE ARE THEY DOING THE TESTING AT? AT OUR, UM, HOUSTON.
THERE'S SEVERAL, SEVERAL COMPANIES.
UM, AND I PUT THE VENDOR PRICING ON THE SIDE SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD SEE ONE 10 IS THE CHEAPEST THAT WE FOUND SO FAR AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD.
UM, AND THE OTHER ONES ARE ONE 20 AND THEN FOUR 50.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AS OPPOSED TO $2 THAT WE HAVE.
WESLEY, IS THE METER ALWAYS SENT TO THEM OR CAN THEY COME OUT IN THE FIELD AND TEST IT? SO THEY COME AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO A BENCH TEST THERE IF THE RESIDENT REQUIRES OR WANTS TO BE THERE.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU CAN COME UP TO THE WINDOW.
UM, AND THIS IS AFTER THE METER TICKS HAVE GONE OUT THERE WITH THE LITTLE PUCK AND DONE THE READING.
AND THEN THEY DON'T AGREE WITH US.
THEN WE GO AND HAVE THE METER READ.
SO THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE.
HAVE WE SEEN MORE OF AN INCREASE OF THESE REQUESTS AS WE PUT THESE NEW METERS IN AND PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING YES.
WERE THEIR WATER BILLS ARE HIGHER, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THE METERS ARE NEW AND MORE ACCURATE.
THEY, THEY'RE ACCOUNTING EVERY DROP WE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL AVERAGE BILL METERS, UH, ON THEIR, AND WE'VE CHANGED THOSE OUT.
WE DID KNOCK MOST OF THOSE DOWN.
SO IT'S A SHOCK WHEN THEY GET AN ACCURATE METER NOW.
SO IF, UH, SO IF THEY WANT TO TEST, IF THEY WANT TO REQUEST
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A, A TEST TO THE METER IF THEY WANT, WHAT'S THE PRO, WHAT PROCESS ARE YOU SAYING? SO INITIALLY THEY'LL TELL US THEY DON'T TRUST THE, THE READING.SO THE GUYS GO BACK OUT, THEY'LL DO A READING AND THEN WE HAVE THE HOOKY PUCK THEN, AND THEY'LL DO A READING OFF THE HOOKY PUCK.
AND IT GIVES US ABOUT A 45 TO 60 DAY, DEPENDS HOW OLD THE MACHINE IS.
IF IT'S A NEWER ONE, THEN WE CAN GO BACK SEVERAL MONTHS.
IF IT'S AN OLDER MODEL, YOU CAN MAYBE GO BACK 45, 45 DAYS, 60 DAYS MM-HMM
BUT THAT SHOWS US, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GOT A ZERO ON THERE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A LEAK GOING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT COMPLAIN THAT RIGHT.
WELL IF THERE'S NOTHING GOING THROUGH THE METER AND THERE'S NOT A LEAK, SO, AND THAT HELPS US BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
THEY STILL AREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND THAT POINT, THAT'S WHEN WE GO OUT AND GET THE COMPANY TO COME OUT AND DO THE READING.
SO YOU WOULD TEST AN METER OR WOULD YOU, ARE YOU SAYING A WHILE AGO YOU'RE SAYING THAT REPLACING A METER WAS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TESTING IT? SO THEY WERE ABOUT ONE 10.
SO WE WEREN'T DOING ANY TESTING.
I THINK WE WOULD JUST SWAP OUT A METER.
BUT NOWADAYS WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
WE HAVE MORE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN, SO IF THEY QUESTION IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA REPLACE THE METER RIGHT AWAY.
WE'LL DO THE TESTING, UNDERSTANDING THAT IF IT TESTS ACCURATE, THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY THE TEST FEE, IF THAT'S CORRECT.
IF IT'S ACCURATE, IF IT'S, BUT IF THE METER HAS TO BE REMOVED, HOW ARE YOU GONNA NOT REPLACE THE METER? IS WE TO REPLACE? OH, WE HAVE, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING SPARE.
WE HAVE, SO HAVE WE HAVE A SPARE THAT WE ARE GONNA PUT IN THE PAST? WE WERE LEAVING THE NEW ONE IN THERE.
NOW EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM BACK.
THE ONE THAT'S BEEN TESTED AND PROVEN TO BE CORRECT.
HOW MUCH IS THE NEW THING? 1 55.
SO WOULD THAT BILLING BE A PROBLEM? YOU ONE METER THEN NEXT METER? THE IS A LOT MORE PAPERWORK TO MAINTAIN.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHY THEY'RE EATING THE RIGHT.
IT DOES MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED.
AND WE TAKE PICTURES, DISCUSS IT WITH THE COST OF THE READ BEFORE AND AFTER.
AND THE THING IS THOUGH, IS THAT, UH, THE ONE 10 DOESN'T COVER OUR COST TO GO OUT AND NO REPLACE ALL METER TAKES HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK SHOULD BE THE COST OF EVERYTHING.
BUT IT'S A LOT CLOSER THAN $2, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHEN THAT ONE WAS WRITTEN, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I THINK MAYBE THE FORTIES, AGAIN, WE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO, YOU KNOW, WARN THE CUSTOMER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE ARE TIMES THAT A METER IS AT INACCURATE, BUT IF IT IS, IT'S USUALLY IN THE CUSTOMER'S FAVOR.
IT REACHED SLOW, WHICH IS A BENEFIT TO THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY STATS ON THAT DATA'S TESTED AND SHOW WHICH ONE THAT MADE A MISTAKE? I MEAN, SO FAR WE'VE TESTED FOUR AND SINCE WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM AND ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ACCURATE AND THE ONE THAT WAS SAVED INACCURATE WAS REALLY ON THE CUSTOMER'S FAVOR.
IT WAS READING IT ONLY STILL 54% OF THE MORE WATER THAT WENT THROUGH IT.
SO HE WAS GETTING AWAY WITH MORE WATER.
AND BEFORE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY FOR THE RESIDENT, WE'RE DOING THE HOCKEY PUCK, WHICH IS FREE TO THEM.
IT'S JUST ONE TOOL THAT WE PAID ONE TIME.
AND IT DOES GIVE US THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE CONSUMPTION OF THE RESIDENT HOUR BY HOUR.
SO WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT HAD THEIR SPRINKLERS, THEN HE SAID THAT IT WAS ONLY 10 MINUTES A DAY.
WELL WE SHOWED HIM IT WAS GOING OFF FOR AN HOUR EACH DAY.
AND SO HE'S LIKE, OH IT MUST HAVE RESET.
SO THAT HELPED THEM AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW EXACTLY WHEN.
SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL AND THAT'S ALREADY HELPED SEVERAL PEOPLE.
SO AGAIN, IF THEY DECIDE TO GO DOWN TO, IF THEY SAY IF, AGAIN, IF A RESIDENT GOES OVER AND SAYS THAT I THINK MY METER'S WRONG, AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'LL DO THE HOCKEY PUCK, WE, AND WE THINK THAT YOUR METER IS READING ACCURATELY.
AND IF THEY STILL WANT TO SAY, WELL I THINK IT'S WRONG WITHIN, THEN THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT IS A TEST IT MM-HMM
BUT IF IT, BUT IF THE TESTING PROVES THAT THE METER IS CORRECT, YOU OWE $110.
AND IF IT PROVES THAT IT WAS AND IT WAS FAILING, WELL THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COST.
AND WE'LL REPLACE THE METER AND WE'LL ADJUST THE BILL MA ADJUST THE BILL.
THE ONE, THE ONE 10 OR WHATEVER WE YOU DECIDE ON WITH THE TESTING, IS THAT JUST AUTOMATICALLY ADDED TO THE WATER BILL? WE CAN ADD THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
ADD, YEAH, JUST ADD IT TO THE BILL.
SO MY FEELING IS AS WE REPLACE THIS METERS, THE NEWER METERS, YOU CAN HAVE MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL ONE WEEK.
NOW WE'VE HAD FOUR TESTS WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
SO IS WE OUGHT TO COVER OUR COSTS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU SEND SOMEBODY, EVEN THE CITY EMPLOYEE OUT THERE IS COSTING CITY MONEY AND HE'S GOING INCREASE THE BILLS EVERY THE WATER SYSTEM EVENTUALLY TO PAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES MANPOWER, IT TAKES, UH,
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SO, SO WE GOTTA TO CONSIDER ALL THAT IN, IN THIS FEE.I REALIZE IT'S A BIG JUMP ON $2 TO 110.
WE GOTTA COVER SOME OF THE COSTS.
IT'S NOT FAIR FOR ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT COST.
WELL ONLY THE, THE, I GUESS, UH, AN INITIAL REQUEST IS THE ONLY ADDITIONAL COST IS STAFF GOING OUT THERE WITH THE HOCKEY PUCK.
AND THEN AFTER THEY GO THROUGH THAT AND THEY SHOW 'EM THAT WE THINK THE METER'S OKAY, THEN THAT'S WHENEVER ADDITIONAL COST TO US GOES INTO PLAY A ABOVE THE $110.
THE COST OF PULLING THE METER OUT TWICE IS WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING SOME, UM, WESLEY'S GOT SEVERAL REVENUE STREAMS THAT SHE'D LIKE TO TALK TO COUNSEL ABOUT.
WE FIGURED WITH THE BUDGET COMING UP IN A FEW MONTHS, WE WERE GONNA BRING THOSE TO YOU.
AND YOU, YOU SAID THE ONE 10 IS ADDED TO THE ONE 10 THE COST OF THE, THE TEST.
AND WE WOULD ADD THAT TO THE BILL.
SO WHAT IF WE HAVE SOME CITIZENS THAT'S ON FIXED INCOMES, THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT ONE 10 AND THE WATER BILL.
SO CAN WE BREAK THAT? CAN WE BREAK THAT DOWN UP TO SIX MONTHS? YES SIR.
THAT'LL FALL UP UNDER, BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU JUST APPROVED ON THE LAST ONE.
BUT AGAIN, UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL MAKING IT AVAILABLE FOR THE, FOR THE CITIZEN TO MAKE THE DECISION IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT STEP.
ESPECIALLY WHENEVER YOU SHOW 'EM THAT WHERE ALL INDICATIONS ARE IS THAT IT'S, IT DOESN'T WORK AND THEN, OR THAT IT IS WORKING PROPERLY.
AND AGAIN, IF THEY DECIDE TO GO THE NEXT, TAKE AN EXTRA STEP, THEN THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY WOULD PAY WOULD BE IF OUR METER, IF THE METER IS APPROVED TO BE CORRECT BY A THIRD PARTY CERTIFIED COMPANY.
WE SPEND A LOT MORE STAFF TIME ON OTHER THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, TURNING WATER OFF, OFF FOR A NONPAYMENT THAN HAVING TO COME BACK AND TURN IT ON.
THE HOURS ADD UP AND THE FEE DOESN'T COLLECT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVE OF COUNSEL RIGHT NOW.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO COVER OUR BASE.
IS THERE, UH,
AND SO YOU WANT US TO APPROVE THIS SAME, SAME SORT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER ADOPTING UH, WATER METER TESTING POLICY.
HAVE A MOTION WITH COUNCILMAN BAKER.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO SIR.
YOU MAY WAITLEY A HAPPY WOMAN.
[3. Discuss and consider an expenditure for emergency abatement at 401 Garland Drive to Matula Contractors for mowing, debris removal, grading, and backfilling of a stagnant detention pond, not to exceed $24,350. – David Walton]
OKAY.ITEM THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXPENDITURE FOR EMERGENCY.
UH, ABATEMENT OF 4 0 1, UH, GARLAND DRIVE TO MATULA CONTRACTORS FOR MOWING, DEBRIS REMOVAL, GRADING BACK FILLING OF STAGNANT DETENTION POND NOT TO EXCEED $24,350.
DAVID, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE HAVE A ON GARLAND DRIVE, A PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR FIVE TOWNHOUSE UNITS.
UH, A TOTAL OF 25 HOUSING UNITS TO BE PUT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, THE CONTRACTOR WENT THROUGH, UH, CLEARED THE LAND, GRADED IT BUILT, UM, BUILDING PADS, INSTALLED ONE FOUNDATION, AND THEN PROGRESS STOPPED.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, THE LAND HAS NOT OBVIOUSLY STOPPED GROWING.
UH, WE'VE HAD THE CONTRACTOR SUCCESSFULLY GO OUT AND MOW A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IN RECENT, UH, UH, MONTHS, HE HAS BEEN UNRESPONSIVE TO US.
WE HAVE HAD A CONTRACTOR GO OUT THERE, UM, AND DO ONE CURSORY MOWING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE STANDING WATER ON THE LOT, UH, DEBRIS THAT THAT'S IN, IN THE GRASS, UNDER THE GRASS AND AND WHATNOT, AND A, UH, VERY LARGE EIGHT FOOT DEEP, UM, DETENTION POND THAT WAS INSTALLED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN OUTLET BECAUSE OF THE WAY, BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN.
UH, IT'S UNFINISHED AND IT'S JUST HOLDING STAGNANT WATER THAT IS ABOUT 30 FEET AT MOST TO THE REAR YARD OF A DAYCARE.
AND IT IS OF, OF GRAVE CONCERN TO THE DAYCARE.
AND AT CONCERN TO US, WE WOULD LIKE COUNSEL'S PERMISSION TO, UH, USE THE EXPENDED MONIES TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY, UH, CLEARED, GRADED, UH, REMOVED REMOVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS THAT IS HIDDEN ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND TO HAVE THAT POND DRAINED AND BACKFILLED, UH, AT WHICH POINT WE WILL THEN BILL THE OWNER FOR THE, UH, COST OF THAT WORK.
WHAT YOU MADE A STATEMENT UNFINISHED.
WHAT WHAT IS UNFINISHED? THE CONTRACTOR STARTED THE, THE PROJECT AND THEN HAS WALKED AWAY FROM THE PROJECT.
THEY POUR A CONCRETE PAD AND THAT WAS IT.
SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT THEY BUILT OR? NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE,
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THE, UH, RETENTION POND OF, SO THE, THE DETENTION POND IS UNFINISHED AS WELL.BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT.
THE DESIGN WOULD'VE CALLED FOR POWER.
THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN OF THE DETENTION POND WOULD, WOULD'VE CALLED FOR THE INSTALLATION OF PUMPS AND POWER TO THE SITE TO DRAIN THAT DOWN.
AND RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, INSTALLED OR SHORTED UP WITH TEMPORARY FENCING.
SO THIS IS WHERE MY SHERRY QUESTIONS START.
SO WE GO IN AND WE DO THIS AS COST OF LIKE $24,000 MM-HMM
AND WHAT WE CAN DO AT THAT POINT IS WE PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY MM-HMM
SO IF HE NEVER SELLS THAT, ARE THERE, ARE THERE NO, WE DON'T GET IT BACK.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MEASURES WE CAN TAKE TO COLLECT THAT UNLESS HE DOESN'T PAY US TAXES EITHER, IN WHICH CASE WE TAG ALONG WITH THAT LAWSUIT.
BUT YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A LONG WAY IT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S A WAIT.
THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT WAS IN 2001 ON THIS VERY STREET WE TORE DOWN THE GARLAND OAKS APARTMENT.
THAT WAS ABOUT $98,000 AND WE PUT A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE EVENTUALLY DID GET THAT MONEY BACK WHEN LIQUID MANOR BUILT.
WHEN WE PUT A LIEN ON SOMETHING, IS THERE A INTEREST? YES.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S, UH, SO THERE'S A REQUEST TO, UH, APPROVE THIS EXPENDITURE TO, UH, MAKE THIS PROPERTY SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED SOME CALLS ON THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND THIS HASN'T BEEN A, HASN'T BEEN AN EASY PROCESS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
SO, AND HAS THIS, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT THE OWNER SEVERAL TIMES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE, WE SENT THE OWNER A VERY DIRECT LETTER STATING THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR NON-RESPONSIVENESS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO AS SOON AS WE GET THE, THE CONTRACTOR IN LINE AND THE CLEARANCE FOR THE FUNDING.
UH, NOW OBVIOUSLY HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE, AS SOON AS WE GOT THE CONTRACTS, UH, THREE, THREE COMPETING BIDS, I, WE TOOK IT TO MR. MUNDO WHO WANTED TO BRING IT TO CITY COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE SPENT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THE OWNER IS AWARE OF THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY.
HE'S VERY AWARE THAT WE'VE GONE OUT THERE ONE TIME, UH, JUST IN THE, IN THE PAST QUARTER TO MOW IT AND OUR INTENT TO ABATE IT AND NO RESPONSE.
AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY WAS COUNTY COUNCIL VERSUS THE DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.
THERE'S NO DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.
THERE'S NO STRUCTURE 'CAUSE THERE'S NO ACTUAL STRUCTURE.
THE, UM, I'M ASSUMING THE LAND IS WORTH MORE THAN $24,000.
IS THAT ON OR LOCAL PROPERTY? I'M SORRY? IS THAT ON OR LOCAL? NO.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON SILENT MR. MAYOR.
I MOVE THAT WE, UH, CONSIDER EXPENDITURE OF E EMERGENCY ABATEMENT AT 4 0 1 GARDEN DRIVE TO MATULA CONTRACTORS FOR MOWING, DEBRIS REMOVAL, GRADING, AND BACKFILLING OF STAGGERING DETENTION POND NOT TO EXCEED $24,350 AS PER THEIR BID.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH COUNCIL NIA SECOND.
I JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION TO SHERRY MM-HMM
UM, SO WE GO FILL IN THIS RETENTION AREA AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THERE'S, THE OWNER CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY, YOU JUST CAUSED ME ALL KIND OF HEARTACHE BECAUSE YOU FILLED UP MY NO RETENTION AT, AT THIS POINT.
HE'S, HE'S GOTTEN NO, HE HAS A NOTICE.
AND, UM, I MEAN HE CAN TRY, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY DAMAGING.
THE PREVIOUS LETTER WE SENT GAVE HIM NOTICE THAT WE'RE GONNA GO DO THIS ONCE BASICALLY, SO WE KNOW HE'S SENDING IT TO THE CORRECT ADDRESS.
AND I MEAN THAT HE ACTUALLY HAS RECEIVED THIS LETTER.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE SENT TO TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES, ONE OF WHICH HE VERIFIED WAS THE CORRECT ADDRESS.
SO WE HAVE A CERTIFIED LETTER OR SO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF RECEIPT THAT HE GOT THAT LETTER HE CAN SIGN A SIGNATURE.
YOU GOT, WE DO SEND CERTIFIED, UH, AND WE DO GET THOSE, THOSE SIGNATURE CARDS BACK EVENTUALLY.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE YEAH.
SOMETHING AND WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND IT TO THE ADDRESS THAT IS, UH, ON BRAZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
WE ALSO SENT TO ANOTHER ADDRESS OKAY.
AS WELL AS POSTED TO THE PROPERTY.
AND AT THIS POINT, THE STANDING WATER IS A PUBLIC HEALTH RESERVE, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, CALL FOR A VOTE.
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AYE.[4. Discuss and consider approving Resolution No. 998, casting 20 votes for candidates for the Board of Directors of the Brazoria County Appraisal District. – Modesto Mundo]
ALL RIGHT.MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING, UH, RESOLUTION.
UH, 9, 9 8, UH, CASTING 20 VOTES FOR THE CANDIDATES FOR BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE ZORIA COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, WE CAN VOTE FOR ONE ALL OR NONE, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
AND IT ALL MEANS ABOUT THE SAME THING.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST IRRELEVANT, FRANKLY.
UH, UH, YEAH, I GUESS I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN DISCUSS IF SOME PEOPLE WANT TO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UM, VOTE FOR, UH, CASTRO, OUR VOTE FOR MARYELLE MUSIC.
I ASSUME SHE'S WILLING TO DO IT.
UH, THEY'RE ALL CANDIDATES, SO THEY ARE, YEAH.
SO THEY'RE, THAT'S WE'RE, THAT'S A BALLOT RIGHT THERE.
UH, UH, NOT SHE WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE.
I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE WAS AGAIN? MARIELLE.
I BELIEVE SHE'S ALSO A COUNCILWOMAN OYSTER CREEK.
SO I'M JUST GONNA PUT MY 2 CENTS IN HERE AND JUST, I LIKE MISS MUSIC.
UH, I DON'T KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THIS IS ALL BASICALLY THEATER.
THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BISD, WHATEVER THEY SAY IS WHAT'S GONNA GO WELL.
I THOUGHT WE DECIDED LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA VOTE TO ANYBODY.
IS IT BACK ON THE AGENDA? NO, THEY WERE, WE, WE, WE DIDN'T NOMINATE ANYONE.
SO IT HAD TO COME BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR VOTE, FOR OFFICIAL VOTE.
SO, AND THAT IS WHAT I SAY THAT WE SHOULD STAND WITH IS NOBODY BUT THAT.
I'M SORRY, MY DAD, UH, TODAY, DID YOU MAKE A MOTION OR NOT? YES, I DID.
LET'S GO SEE IF THERE HAS A SECOND FOR, UH, MS. MUSIC.
OKAY, SO THERE'S NO SECOND ON THAT MOTION.
SO NOW, UH, WHAT'S THE OUTCOME FOR, UH, THE REST FOR THE WHOLE BALLOT? I'LL NEED A MOTION TO, CAN I MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION? MOTION? YES, YOU CAN.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DECLINE TO MAKE A NOMINATION TO THE BCA.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLINE, NOT A NOMINATION, BUT A VOTE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN SETH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO NOT CAST A VOTE FOR ANYBODY.
WE GOT, UH, ONE NAY AND 1, 2, 3, 4, 4 OF APPROVE.
[5. Discuss whether to amend Chapter 38 of the Lake Jackson Code of Ordinances to require businesses that use amplified sound outside of their building to obtain a sound amplification permit and to define and prohibit unreasonable noises. – Sherri Russell]
ITEM FIVE, DISCUSSING, UH, WHETHER TO AMEND, UH, CHAPTER 38 OF THE LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REQUIRE BUSINESSES THAT USE AMPLIFIED SOUND OUTSIDE THEIR BUILDING TO OBTAIN A SOUND AMPLIFICATION PERMIT AND TO DEFINE AND PROHIBIT UNREASONABLE NOISES.SHERRY, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS OR? YES.
THIS IS JUST, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN, THIS IS JUST A SKELETAL IDEA RIGHT NOW, BUT I NEED FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL.
AND FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A MAP.
DO HAVE A POINTER? I CAN USE IT.
YEAH, SO THE, YEAH, IT DOESN'T, THE GREENS WHERE THE BUSINESS, IT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR.
ANYWAY, THE RED, THE LITTLE REDS ARE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE, DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN NOISE.
AND THEN THERE'S THE TWO MAIN CONTENDERS IN GREEN.
SHERRY, WHAT ARE YOU BEEN DRINKING THAT ARE MAKING THE NOISE? WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING? YEAH, WHAT MUSIC? YOU BEEN LISTENING EITHER SHE DID A, UH, SHE MUST HAVE DONE A ME LAST MUSIC.
YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO FIND YOUR BOW BIFOCAL.
ANYWAY, UM, THERE'S A, A SPREADSHEET IN Y'ALL'S PACKET, AND I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 30 CALLS, BUT THEY'RE ALL FROM MAINLY THESE RESIDENTS FROM WHERE ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN NOISE, MISSAL TOE MESQUITE, KIND OF THAT AREA OVER THERE IS HEARING THE MUSIC FROM THAT WAY.
AND THE ONLY, IF YOU GO INSIDE YOUR HOUSE, I, I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
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I HAVE A BACK PATIO, YOU CAN HEAR THE BASS MUSIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.I LIVE ON THE FIRST INTERSECTION ACROSS FROM MARSHALL CREEK.
SO IS IT REAL PRONOUNCED OR IS IT MUFFLE COUNTY? YOU TELL THE WORDS OF THE SONG.
I MEAN, DOES IT HAPPEN? NO, I MEAN, NO, YOU JUST HEAR NO, BUT IT'S COMING FROM HEAR YOU HEAR THE FACE.
YOU HEAR THE THUMP, THUMP AND STUFF.
AND THERE'S AGAIN, IT THE, SO THE BUSINESSES ARE RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE THERE.
AND UH, WHEN I DROVE UP FOR COUNCIL, UH, INTO THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT, I COULD HEAR THE MUSIC ALSO.
SO, BUT, UH, UH, I GUESS THEY WERE JUST TESTING THEIR SPEAKERS AT THE TIME.
'CAUSE UH, PD DROVE BY LATER AND THEY WEREN'T PLAYING MUSIC.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING PLANTS AROUND.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE NEIGHBORS HERE.
UH, MR. UH, HUNTER IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT IT, CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT FIRST? SURE, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL CALLS FROM PEOPLE I KNOW THE MAYOR'S GOTTEN CALLS, WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS, UH, ABOUT THE NOISE AND IT'S REALLY FAR AWAY.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I LIVE OVER ON ALMONDS AND I CAN HEAR THE KIDS PLAYING AT MCLEAN PARK, WHICH IS NOT THAT FAR AWAY.
OF COURSE, I LOVE LISTENING TO THAT.
BUT THIS IS REALLY FAR AWAY TO BE HERE THAT MUCH.
I MEAN, THIS 30 CALLS, I BELIEVE IS OVER A SHORT, FAIRLY SHORT TIME PERIOD SINCE PARTS OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S JUST THIS YEAR OF THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA TO REQUIRE THIS PERMIT BECAUSE IT GIVES PD THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO MANAGE IT IN A REASONABLE WAY THAT, THAT PROTECTS OUR CITIZENS PIECE.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIT ON THE BACKYARD AND NOT LISTEN TO THIS MUSIC.
AND IT JUST GIVES PD A TOOL TO MANAGE THIS PROBLEM.
I THINK YOU HEAR MORE ON THE WEEKENDS, ON THE WEEKENDS TO GET REAL LOUD.
THURSDAY, FRIDAY, YEAH, THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND MOSTLY LATER IN THE EVENING, EVENING TIMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
LAST NIGHT TILL 11 O'CLOCK, WE GOT ONE RESIDENT HERE THAT, UH, UH, HAD MUSIC THAT HE HAD TO LISTEN TO AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO TILL 11 O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT.
SO IT'S, I LIVE ON THE FIRST STREET.
ANYWAYS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, THAT I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE PD WITH THE TOOLS TO MANAGE THIS.
AND THIS DOES THIS IN A VERY DEFINED WAY.
AND, AND THE, THE THING IS, IS WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN HAVE MUSIC DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT IT IS GETTING, AND AGAIN, THE REQUIREMENT HERE IS, IS THAT IT'S GOTTA BE BELOW 70 OR IT'S GOTTA, CAN'T BE HIGHER THAN 70 DOZEN DAYS.
HEY, Y'ALL ARE GETTING AHEAD OF MY SLIDES.
LEMME JUST
WELL, NO, I'D LIKE TO THIS FROM MR. HUNTER, ACTUALLY, MR. HUNTER, WHEN I JUST SPEAK.
BUT, BUT, BUT I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE THAT PD SHOULD HAVE SOME, SOME TYPE OF, UH, ENFORCEMENT OR SOME, AND I'M SORRY MR. HUNTER, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF THERE, BUT WELL LET, WE WILL LET SHERRY FINISH YOUR SLIDE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE SHE HAD A SLIDE PRESENTATION, SO NOT USED TO THAT.
I SPENT FIVE MINUTES ON THIS FROM THE LEGAL PEOPLE THEY USUALLY HAVE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO THE SLIDE OR WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO NO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR MR. HUNTER FIRST BEFORE I GO ON.
I THINK MR. HUNTER, I THINK THAT'S, I I'M GETTING MY MEETING BACK.
UH, MY NAME'S GARY HUNTER, ONE 17 MESQUITE THAT FAR.
AND, UM, MY BEDROOM WINDOW FACES DIRECTLY AT THAT GREEN DOT DOWN THERE.
AND SO, UM, AND IT'S A PRETTY BIG WINDOW AND IT ACTS LIKE A REVERBERATE.
SO THAT CONSTANT BU BU HUM THUMP HITS MY WINDOW AND IT PUTS A, YOU, YOU, I'M TRYING NOT TO GO TO SLEEP AND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE OF THIS CONSTANT THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP.
AND IT'S THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY NIGHTS.
THAT'S THE MOST, THAT'S THE LOUDEST.
UM, ONE NIGHT I GOT UP AND I DROVE DOWNTOWN JUST TO GO BY AND SEE IF IT COULD ISOLATE WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.
AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THAT MUSIC IS FOUL.
OKAY? IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET IN THOSE APARTMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
OKAY? AND IT'S CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL, BUT SCHOOLS AT, NOT AT NIGHT, BUT I DIGRESS.
UM, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON, ON WHAT CODES THAT WE HAVE.
AND IT'S PRETTY GOOD FOUNDATION FOR YOU GUYS TO DEVELOP A POLICY.
UH, 38.51 TALKS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AT NIGHT.
AND WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS IT'S GOT A TIME LIMIT.
OKAY? UH, YOU KNOW, 10:00 PM TO 7:00 AM I THOUGHT IT WAS
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TO 8:00 AM AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS JUST FOR CONSTRUCTION ONLY.I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR ANY KIND OF NOISE, BUT I WAS CORRECTED.
I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY QUALIFICATIONS FOR WHERE THE NOISE CAME FROM.
NOISE IS NOISE, DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S CONSTRUCTION OR FROM A LOUDSPEAKER OR MY NEIGHBOR.
OKAY? AND I SHOULD HAVE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME RULES THAT CONTROLS THAT.
UM, UM, EVEN, EVEN THE CITY, WHEN WE HAVE THE LIVE BANDS OUT THERE BY, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE BANDS, IT'S USUALLY OVER BY 9:00 PM SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO CONTROL THE NOISE.
38.1 5.1, DETAILS, NOISE MEASUREMENTS AND FREQUENCIES FOR DAY AND NIGHT OPERATIONS.
A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO HERE.
OKAY? TAKE, TAKE, BORROW SOME FROM THAT REGULATION, FROM THAT, THAT CODE RIGHT THERE.
IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD APPLY TO OPEN AIR VENUES AND NOT JUST OIL DRILLING OPERATIONS OR MINING OR CONSTRUCTION.
OKAY? 86.67 IS CLEAR ABOUT SOUND AMPLIFICATION, BUT HAS NO TIME RESTRICTIONS.
WE NEED TO PUT A TIME RESTRICTION ON IT.
OKAY? YOU KNOW, THIS, SOMETIMES THIS STUFF GOES UNTIL ONE AND TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, OKAY? I MEAN, WELL AT LEAST ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, I THE LATEST I RECORD.
BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I'M LAYING THERE TRYING TO GO TO SLEEP, YOU KNOW, APPARENT.
YOU KNOW, I VALUE MY SLEEP MORE THAN THESE PEOPLE VALUE THEIR EARS.
UM, 98.8 ADDRESSES UNNECESSARY NOISE FROM VEHICLES AND SUCH.
AGAIN, ANOTHER, UH, INDICATION THAT THE CITY'S COGNITIVE, THE FACT THAT NOISE NEEDS TO BE CONTROLLED.
OKAY? SO I ASK THAT YOU GUYS DO THAT.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY.
IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER THEM.
THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT THAT HE MAKE.
WE ALSO, HE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN HEAR IOWA OUTSIDE CONCERT, YOU CAN HEAR THE MUSIC, THAT MUSIC ALSO TOO.
THE, UH, I WON'T, UH, STEAL ANY THUNDER FROM SHERRY, BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO WORK UNDER THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND SO SHE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME RESTRICTIONS THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS PUTS ON US WHERE WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS, UM, I LEARNED, I JUST LEARNED THIS WHEN I PUT THIS TOGETHER, THAT THERE'S THE DECIBEL READERS.
YOU, YOU GET, WHEN THAT MEASURES BOTH A AND C LEVELS.
IT'S THE C THAT'S THE BASE, THE BASE, IT'S THE C THAT TRAVELS LONG DISTANCES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT BOTHER IS BOTHERING MR. HUNTERS TO SEE.
UM, AND IF YOU SEE WHAT, UH, WE'RE ALLOWED TO RESTRICT ACCORDING TO THE STATE IS, UM, ANY, IT'S ABOVE THE, UM, HAIR DRYER OR THE NOISY RESTAURANT.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING THE STATE LAW, UNREASONABLE NOISE.
YOU CAN'T MAKE AN UNREASONABLE NOISE NEAR A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT YOU DON'T OWN.
AND, UH, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING PRETTY GOOD FOR YEARS WITH THAT.
BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN NOW.
AND SO WE MIGHT NEED TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND ADOPT A NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND I LOOKED AT, I BELIEVE THIS WAS HOUSTON'S NOISE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, SAID IF, IF YOU CAN HEAR IT IN ANOTHER BUILDING, IF YOU CAN HEAR IT IN YOUR HOUSE, THEN IT'S UNREASONABLE IT 'CAUSE IT'S INVADING YOUR, THE PLACE, YOUR SANCTUM WHERE, WHERE YOU EXPECT PRIVACY.
UH, I MEAN, THE BACKYARDS AND STUFF ARE NOT, I WOULD, UM, WHAT THEY DID IS MADE IT UP.
THAT MEANS IF SOMEONE CAN HEAR IT INSIDE, AND OF COURSE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO CONFIRM THIS INSIDE THE HOUSE, THEN IT'S, THEY'RE GUILTY OF AN UNREASONABLE NOISE.
BUT THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, NO, IT WASN'T UNREASONABLE FOR THESE REASONS.
OR, UM, OR THEY CAN BRING UP A DEFENSE AND I'LL HAVE DEFENSES LISTED ON THERE.
AND SOME OF THEM I'VE PUT, OR, UM, BARKING DOGS AND CHILDREN AC UNITS.
YOU'RE GONNA HEAR YOUR NEIGHBOR'S AC UNIT IN YOUR HOUSE, UH, IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE HOUSES WHERE THEY'RE CLOSE TOGETHER.
SO I PUT SOME, SOME EXCEPTIONS TO IT.
AND IF Y'ALL COME UP WITH MORE EXCEPTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, GO AHEAD AND DO THE NEXT ONE ON IT.
AND THIS IS, THE STATE JUST PASSED THIS LAW, UM, FOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
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UH, THEY'RE RESTRICTING WHO NEEDS THE PERMIT? IT'S ONLY FOR RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.WE HAVE RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL.
WE DON'T HAVE BARS, SO IT'S GONNA APPLY TO EVERYBODY DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND IF, AND IF THIS RESTAURANT IS USING AMPLIFIED SOUND AFTER 10 OR 11, DEPENDING ON THE, UM, NIGHTS THEY HAVE THE WEEK.
AND, AND IF IT EXCEEDS THESE TWO LEVELS, SEE THEY'VE GOT BOTH A AND C THERE, THEN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PERMIT.
ALL THE OTHER ONES DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT.
IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE SHUTTING IT DOWN OR IF THEY'RE NOT THAT LOUD, THEN THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE LOUD, THE LOUD ONES.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA TAKE TIME.
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND FIGURE OUT WHO IT IS.
YOU HAVE TO MEET WITH ALL THE DOWNTOWN RESTAURANT OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE WE DO THIS.
BUT, UM, THAT WOULD, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.
UH, AND ALSO IF, UM, AND IF THEY BREAK, I MEAN, IF THEY VIOLATE THE PERMIT, WE CAN SUSPEND IT, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE AMPLIFIED SOUND FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
I MEAN, THAT'S, FOR THEM, THAT'S GONNA BE BIG.
THAT'S GONNA BE BIG THAT THEY CAN'T USE IT.
SO I REALLY THINK THIS, THEY WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND, UM, AND KEEP THEIR SOUND WITHIN THE STATE HOURS AND THE STATE DECIBELS.
SO DO WE HAVE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
DO WE HAVE EQUIPMENT TO MEASURE THESE DECIBELS? UH, NO.
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE EQUIPMENT THAT MEASURES IT.
AMAZON SELLS THEM, BUT I'M SURE THE POLICE NEED IT MUCH CHEAPER THROUGH THEIR, THERE'S AN APP FOR, I WANT SOMETHING MORE CERTIFI YES.
KNOW, THERE'S AN APP, BUT I DON'T WANT THE APP.
I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIC.
I, UH, 70 DBS IS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
SO IT'S GONNA BE REALLY EASY FOR THESE GUYS TO BUST 70 DBS AND 75 IN BOTH CATEGORIES.
SO, UM, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA WANT YOU TO HAVE REALLY GOOD EQUIPMENT.
BUT, BUT YEAH, YOU, IF WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO THAT LEVEL AT THEIR LOCATION, I PROBABLY WON'T HEAR A THING AT MY HOUSE.
AND I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
THAT IS THE NOISY RESTAURANT OR HAIRDRYER LEVEL RIGHT HERE.
S SO SHERRY, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? I NEED SPECIFICS TO KNOW IF Y'ALL SUPPORT THIS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS TO, TO THROW IN THE MIX WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS.
MY QUESTION, WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT PART ON THIS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT TOOLS ARE WE GIVEN PD IF WE HAVE A PERMIT IN PLACE, PLACE? SEE CHIEF, THE TOOL IS TO REVOKE THE PERMIT AND SUSPEND THE PERMIT.
AND ALSO THE, THE, IT'LL BE A CLASS C FOR THE OWNER, THE MANAGER, AND THE DJ.
I I MEAN, THEY CAN CHOOSE WHICH ONE THEY GIVE THE CLASS C TO, OR THEY CAN GIVE IT TO ALL THREE.
SO LET ME TRY TO GET THIS CLEAR.
THE, THE STATE ALLOWS THEM TO PLAY MUSIC AS LONG AS IT'S BELOW THE 70 AND 75 AT RESTAURANTS.
WHAT IS, SO IT'S, SO IT WAS SUNDAY, SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY WAS 10, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UP TO THOSE TIME PERIOD WAS 11.
SO WHAT WOULD THE PERMIT DO? IT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO BUST THOSE SOUND LIMITS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT.
'CAUSE IF THE PERMIT GETS SUSPENDED OR REVOKED, THEY CAN'T USE THE SOUND AT ALL.
RIGHT? THEY'LL HAVE TO KEEP IT INSIDE, INSIDE THE BUILDING.
SO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PERMIT ANYBODY DOWNTOWN TO HAVE MUSIC AFTER 11 O'CLOCK? WELL, YOU DON'T, AND YOU'RE ENCOURAGING THEM NOT TO DO IT, BUT IF THEY DO WANT TO DO IT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE LIMITED.
THEY'LL BE LIMITED TO THIS, TO, THEY'RE GONNA BE LIMITED TO THOSE DECIBELS.
BUT IF THEY, IF THEY'RE GOING AFTER 10 OR 11, IF THEY BE LIMITED TO, AND THEN IF THEY, IF THEY BUST THAT PERMIT, THEY CAN'T PLAY MUSIC EVER AGAIN, OR THEY GO BACK TO THIS LEVEL, WE'LL, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE GRADUAL.
SUSPEND IT, SUSPEND AT FIRST, REVOKE IT.
AND IF YOU GET A REVOKED PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO WAIT LIKE A YEAR TO GET ANOTHER ONE.
THIS, THESE ARE THE, THE SKELETON PART, RIGHT.
SO YEAH, I THINK ALL THAT NEEDS TO GET FLUSHED OUT.
BASICALLY, YOU WERE SAYING IN THE BUILDING, BUT THESE, THESE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE NOT PLAYING INSIDE
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THE BUILDING, THEY'RE OUTSIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.AND IF THEY GET SUSPENDED OR REVOKED, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE DURING THE SUSPENSION.
BUT AGAIN, IS THAT AT ANY TIME? NO, IT'S AFTER 10 OR 11.
OKAY, SO IT'S AFTER 10 OR 11 ON THE PERMIT.
I ONLY, THE ONLY REASON THEY GET A PERMIT IS IF THEY WANNA PLAY AFTER 10 OR 11, DEPENDING ON THE DAY OF THE WEEK.
IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEN IF THEY BUST THAT PERMIT, THEY'RE ON A YEAR SUSPENSION.
THEY CAN'T HAVE ANY MUSIC AFTER 10 OR 11, BUT THEY CAN STILL HAVE MUSIC UP TO 10 OR 11.
BUT IT HAS TO MEET THE STATES.
THEY CANNOT HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND AT ALL.
THIS IS AN AMPLIFIED SOUND PERMIT.
SO THIS GOES, SO THEN, SO THEN THIS TAKES AWAY THEIR, THEIR ABILITY TO OPERATE UNDERNEATH THE STEEL.
BUT SOMETIME, SOMETIME THAT MUSIC STARTED BEFORE 10 OR 11 AND IT'S, AND IT'S LOUD INVESTMENTS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE DO A PERMIT, THEY, AND THEY BUST THE PERMIT, DO THEY, DOES THAT JUST PREVENT THEM FROM PLAYING MUSIC AFTER 10 AND 11? OR DOES IT PREVENT, IT PREVENT THEM TO PLAY MUSIC FROM PLAYING MUSIC FROM 10 TO 11, BUT IT ALSO PREVENTS THEM FROM PLAYING MUSIC AT ALL IF THEY BUST THE PERMIT.
SO I WAS THINKING LIKE FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS THEY COULDN'T PLAY IT AT ALL.
BUT THAT IS, THAT CAN BE YOUR CHOICE.
THIS, ALL I'M GONNA SAYING IS THAT WE CAN'T MAKE A LAW OR AN ORDINANCE THAT SUPERSEDES THE STATE LAW.
AND THE STATE LAW STATES THAT THEY CAN PLAY MUSIC, OUTDOOR MUSIC UP TO 10 TO 11, DEPENDING ON THE DAY OF THE WEEK.
AS LONG AS IT'S BELOW 70 AND 75 DOES.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT IF YOU DO THAT, YOU DON'T NEED THE PERMIT.
BUT ONCE YOU GET THE PERMIT, YOU'RE A TROUBLEMAKER AND WE CAN START GOING STRICTER ON THEM.
SO IF THEY'RE PLAYING MUSIC THAT LOUD AFTER, SAY IT'S MIDNIGHT, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO GET THE PERMIT.
IS IT OPTION? IT'S NOT OPTIONAL AT THAT POINT? NO, IT'S NOT OPTIONAL.
THEY CAN'T PLAY, IT'S NOT OPTIONAL.
IT'S WEIRD THAT IT'S CALLED A PERMIT.
IT'S WEIRD THAT IT'S CALLED A PERMIT, RIGHT? THERE SHOULD, RIGHT, WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WORD THAN PERMIT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY A PERMIT.
SO COMMON SENSE SOUND APPLICATION.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY BUSINESSES DOWN THERE ARE PLAYING OUTSIDE? I KNOW, UH, TWO RIGHT NOW.
WHO ARE THEY? I'M ASKING WHO ARE THEY? WELL, THERE'S, THERE IS BACK, BACK, BACKYARD AND BACKYARD AND, UH, BODEGA.
BODEGA BO BODEGAS, THE ONE WE'RE TALKING TO ARE IN THE GREEN.
THE OTHER ONE'S, UH, THE, UH, TEQUILA PLACE.
THEY PLAY MUSIC OUTSIDE THE, UH, SOMETIME THE WORST HOUSE PLAY MUSIC OUTSIDE.
WHAT'S THAT? GARDEN CREEK? THE, YEAH, THE, THE CREEK DEAL.
THEY PLAY MUSIC OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF, UH, WORST HOUSE.
THEY PLAY, UH, AT LEAST, UH, ONE SATURDAY, ONE SUNDAY OR WHATEVER MONTH.
SO, AND THEN THE CITY PLAY MUSIC OUTSIDE AND WE PLAY MUSIC ALSO, BUT WE'RE NOT A RESTAURANT.
SO IT DOESN'T FALL FROM THERE.
SO, SO, BUT THE CALL SHEET IS PRETTY SPECIFIC TO TWO BUSINESSES? YES.
THE, UH, THAT DECIBEL NUMBER IS PRETTY LOW.
WELL THAT WAS SET BY THE STATE.
BUT THAT'S, WE WANNA HELP OUR BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, STAY IN BUSINESS NOT TO, UH, MAKE IT PROHIBIT THEM, PROHIBITED THEM FROM DOING BUSINESS WITHOUT ANNOYING THEIR NEIGHBORS.
SO WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME NUMBER THAT'S WORKABLE FOR BOTH SITUATIONS.
BUT AGAIN, THE STATE'S ALREADY SAYING THE STATE SET THE NUMBER.
WE WE CAN'T, BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE NUMBER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU'RE NOT BIND BY THAT NUMBER AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTING THEM TO DO THAT.
SO IF YOU OPEN IT UP WITH HIGHER NUMBER OF DECIBEL, THEN I, I DON'T THINK STATE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTING THEM TO A LOWER NUMBER.
YEAH, BUT IF YOU LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD YOU WANT IT TO BE A HIGH NUMBER? SO MR. MUNDO HAS HIS PHONE HERE READING THE DECIMAL, AND WE ARE EXCEEDING 70 DECALS RIGHT NOW, JUST TALKING IN HERE.
SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A PRETTY LOW NUMBER.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE UNREASONABLE FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, I MEAN, AND I DON'T THINK, GIVEN THE TIMES, THE DATES AND THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AFTER 10:00 PM AFTER 11:00 PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS UNREASONABLE.
BE QUIET AND SAY INSIDE AT THAT POINT.
DO WHAT, WHAT TIME DO DOWNTOWN USUALLY CLOSE UP? I THOUGHT IT WAS MIDNIGHT, BUT MAYBE IT GOES ON WEEKEND TO ONE O'CLOCK.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T ROLL THE STREETS UP AT A CERTAIN TIME DOWNTOWN.
BUT YEAH, IT USUALLY THEY STOP SELLING ALCOHOL AND THEN MOST PEOPLE START LEAVING AFTERWARDS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO O'CLOCK STATE
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LAW? NO, NOT HERE.WOULD YOU HAVE WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON DRINKING.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK TWO IS EXTENDED HOURS.
IT'S EITHER MIDNIGHT OR IT'S EXTENDED.
THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS ONE O'CLOCK WHEN I WORKED THE STREET.
YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE EXTENDED HOURS ALL TIME.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT IS IT'S, UH, ALSO DEPENDS ON THE WAY WHICH WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING.
AND PRIMARILY IT'S OUT OF THE SOUTHEAST, WHICH POINTS IT RIGHT TO MY A HOUSE
AND SO IF IT'S BLOWING OUT THE NORTH, I'D HARDLY HEAR ANYTHING.
UH, SAME THING WITH CAR TRAFFIC ON THE FREEWAY.
IF WE GET WIND OUT OF THE EAST, I CAN'T HEAR THE FREEWAY, YOU KNOW, SO, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION THAT THE WIND IS BLOWING.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS THEY CAN PLAY IT AS LOUD AS THEY WANT UP TILL 10 O'CLOCK ON CERTAIN DAYS AND, AND UP TILL 11 O'CLOCK ON WEEKENDS.
YOU KNOW, AND, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE STILL GOTTA PUT UP WITH SOME LOUD NOISE.
AND THEN THESE, YOU KNOW, HOW LOUD DO THE, YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE THE MUSIC AT THESE PLACES TO ATTRACT CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE CITY'S GOT SOME VENUES NOW FOR THE YOUNGER CROWD THAT, THAT THE EMPLOYEES, THE EMPLOYERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAY HERE IN LAKE JACKSON NOW.
BUT I'M, I'M AFRAID THIS KIND OF MUSIC IS ATTRACTING THE WRONG KIND OF CROWD.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CRIME.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME THINGS HAPPENING AFTER A WHILE.
IT'S ONLY BEEN GOING ON FOR, WHAT, SIX MONTHS NOW? OR EIGHT? EIGHT MONTHS? NO, SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR OR SO.
YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, SO GIVE US SOME TIME AND THERE'S CRIME, WE GOTTA FOLLOW IT.
YOU WATCH WELL IT HAS ALREADY.
AND THAT ALCOHOL HAS GOT A LOT TO DO WITH IT ALSO.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT KIND OF MUSIC, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MUSIC PERIOD.
SO I'M ASSUMING THE MUSIC IS NOT VULGAR ALL THE TIME.
LIKE YOU, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANNA PUNISH PEOPLE WHO JUST HAVE VULGAR MUSIC VERSUS ALL MUSIC.
BUT THOSE TWO PARTICULAR VENUES, THEY DO HAVE PRETTY NASTY MUSIC.
WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF US TO APPROVE TONIGHT.
OTHER THAN JUST TO NO, JUST FLUSHING IT OUT, JUST SEEING HOW YOU FEEL.
I THINK THAT PERMIT IS CONFUSING AND GO BACK AND STUDY IT SOME MORE.
CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES PERMIT.
SO CAN WE BRING THIS BACK ON THE NEXT AGENDA OR THE ONE AFTER? I'M GONNA GET WITH PD AND MAKE SURE I, AND MAYBE STUDY TO SEE WHEN, WHEN THEY CAN HEAR THE BASE.
THAT'D BE GREAT WHEN YOU CAN HEAR THE BASE.
IF YOU COULD MEASURE THE DECIBELS AND SEE WHAT THAT IS.
I THINK WE'LL ALSO, IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL ORDER SOME EQUIPMENT SO WE CAN BRING BACK TO YOU WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS MEASURING AT.
PERHAPS INCLUDE SOME DOWN DOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
WELL, CAN WE HAVE LIKE A STEADY IN BETWEEN THOSE HOURS? YES.
WE WOULD UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK FROM, I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO EIGHT TO 12:00 PM ON THE NIGHT.
JUST SO YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PREVENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? SO, UM, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD BUT I DIDN'T HEAR A TIMELINE ON THIS.
WELL, COME ON, BRING IT BACK NEXT, UH, MEETING.
I'M SURE WE'LL GET UH, SOME INPUT.
[6. Authorize City Manager to execute contract with Progressive Commercial Aquatics dba/Landmark Aquatics for the renovations of Recreation Center Natatorium not to exceed the amount of $238,375 as budgeted through the BuyBoard Contact #701-23. – Robin Hyden]
MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX.AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT, UH, WITH PROGRESSIVE, UH, COMMERCIAL AQUATICS, DBA LANDMARK AQUATICS FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE RECREATIONAL RECREATION CENTER.
NATATORIUM NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $238,375 AS BUDGETED THROUGH THE BUY BOARD CONTRACT.
SO, UM, THIS WAS ONE OF OUR CIP PROJECTS FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE NATATORIUM, UM, IT'S, IT'S HIGH.
IT'S ONE OF OUR BUSIEST AREAS OF THE REC CENTER.
UM, AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, REALLY NEED TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS.
SOME OF THE DECKING IS CRUMBLING, WHICH EVERYONE'S BAREFOOT, SO THAT'S NOT VERY SAFE.
UM, THE LIGHT POOL IS DUE TO BE RESURFACED.
UM, AND WE'RE, UM, TRYING TO REMEMBER ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAD GOING ON.
SO WHEN WE HAVE TO REDO THE DECKING, WE HAVE TO REPLACE ALL THE DEPTH MARKERS 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN CODE ANYMORE.
THE GUTTERS NEED TO BE REPLACED.
WE'RE GONNA TRY, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO REPLACE SOME OF THOSE, BUT MOST OF THEM WE CAN GET RE FIBERGLASS AND STUFF.
SO, UM, UH, BUT THIS IS PART OF THE CIP PROJECT.
THE ONLY THING IT DOES NOT INCLUDE
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RIGHT NOW IS REPLACING THE SMALL SLIDE AT THE LEISURE POOL.UM, I HAVE FINALLY GOT, IT'S, THEY JUST DON'T DO 'EM LIKE THEY DID WHEN WE BUILT THE, THE REC CENTER BACK THEN, THAT WAS A BIG THING.
EVERYBODY WAS DOING IT AND NOW IT'S MORE THE SPLASH PARKS AND STUFF.
SO WE HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING THAT FITS SPECIFICALLY TO THAT POOL.
SO WE HAVE FOUND ONE AND I'M STILL WAITING ON THE ESTIMATE, SO THAT WILL PROBABLY COME BACK UNLESS IT'S UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT THAT WILL BE THE FINAL PART.
BUT WE WANNA REMOVE IT AND GET IT OUT OF THERE SO WE CAN FIX THE DECKING AND STUFF UNDERNEATH THAT.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW THIS PROJECT COMES UP TO, AND I THINK I MADE AN ERROR AND THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT, THE 5,000.
YEAH, I'M SORRY, I, YEAH, I DID MAKE AN ERROR ON THERE.
UM, THE PROJECT SHOULD NOT EXCEED 238,375.
I DON'T HAVE THE OTHER ESTIMATE IN FRONT OF ME.
AND THAT'S JUST, YEAH, THAT'S FOR THE, THE DECKING TO REPLACE THE POOL DECKING, PLASTER, THE POOL, THE NEW DEPTH MARKERS, UM, AND THE GUTTER REPLACEMENTS OR RE RESTORATIONS.
ANYBODY ASK ANY QUESTIONS? THE KIDS LOVE THAT SLIDE.
IT'S, IT'S RESTING ON THE BOTTOM.
WE'VE GOT TO, IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED REALLY BAD.
SO WE FOUND, WE DID FIND ONE, I THINK IT'S A SURFBOARD NOW.
I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING REALLY CUTE.
YEAH, THEY, ANYWAY, SOME OF THE ONES THEY SENT ME, I'M LIKE, UHUH.
BUT HONESTLY, NONE OF THESE NUMBERS MATCH.
SO IF YOU ADD THESE FOUR THINGS, THE DEPTH MARKERS, THE POOL DECK REPLACEMENT, THE PLASTER, THE RE PLASTER, AND THE GUTTER.
IS THAT, AM I MISSING AN ITEM? SORRY, I DON'T, I APOLOGIZE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THE MOTION CORRECT.
SO YOU'RE, SHE'S REQUESTING THE 2 38 33 7.
IF YOU MAKE IT 2 39, WHATEVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, IT WOULD, IT'S NOT GONNA EXCEED YES.
JUST IN CASE SOMETHING'S MISSING FROM THAT TABLE.
SO WE WOULD BE, BE BETTER OFF MAKING IT AT THE 2 38.
AND THEN, AND THEN WHATEVER IT ADDS UP TO, WE'LL CHECK IT.
ARE YOU ADDING THAT FOR ME? I APOLOGIZE.
WE WERE GETTING 'EM IN SEPARATE AND THEN I WAS TRYING TO GET 'EM ALL TOGETHER SO WE COULD GET AN, I WAS HOPING TO GET THE SLIDE IN THERE AND I DIDN'T MUSHROOM.
WE'RE HAVING, WE ARE ADDING THE, UM, I FORGOT WHERE THE MUSHROOM THAT'S IN, WHERE THE BABY POOL IS.
THE PAINT IS COMING OFF AND WE WANT THEM TO PROFESSIONALLY REDO IT.
WE HAD IT PAINTED BY A COMPANY.
AND THAT WAS WHAT THE ADDITIONAL, SO WILL THE 2 38, 3 35, 2 38.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL TAKE A MOTION NOW.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH PROGRESSIVE COMMERCIAL AQUATICS DBA LANDMARK AQUATICS FOR THE RENOVATIONS OF RECREATION CENTER.
LABORATORIUM NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF 238,375 AS BUDGETED THROUGH THE BY BOARD CONTACT CONTACT CONTRACT CONTRACT 7 0 1 DASH 23.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN SETH, THAT SECOND MY COUNCILMAN BUELL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR VOTE.
[7. Staff updates]
RIGHT.UH, ITEM SEVEN, STAFF UPDATES.
UM, QUICKLY WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, WE WERE INFORMED OFFICIALLY, UH, TODAY FROM, UH, UH, TXDOT THAT WE DID NOT, UH, GET OUR HIKING BIKE GRANT FOR, UH, LAKE ROAD.
SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CALL IN TWO YEARS TO SUBMIT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, THEY DID GIVE US A ALTERNATE PROCEDURE TO GET A LOAN FOR, AH, SPECIAL
AND THEN THE CHLORINE BURN, UH, IS COMING UP DECEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 29TH.
UH, OUR CHLORINE BURN, UH, THAT'S US 14 IN COORDINATION WITH, UH, BWA AND ALL THE OTHER, UH, CITIES.
AND THEN I'LL LET LAURA MARIE, UH, UH, TAKE THE FLOOR FOR HER PRESENTATION OF A CHRISTMAS BOOK.
SO WE WANT TRY TO GET THE STORY IN AWAY FROM HOLIDAYS.
WAS JUST GONNA, WE DID THANKSGIVING FINE.
IT'S AWAY FROM THANKSGIVING PRESENTATION
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29TH.SO EACH OF YOU, JB YOU DID TOO.
HAVE, UH, RECEIVED A LITTLE CHILDREN'S BOOK.
UM, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN OF HOW THIS HAPPENED AND, UM, WHAT WE HOPE TO DO GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, ONE DAY, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, I JUST HAD AN INSPIRATION TO WRITE A STORY ABOUT WHY SANTA COMES TO LAKE JACKSON.
UM, THE IDEA BEING WHY ARE, WHY IS HE COMING BEFORE THANKSGIVING? RIGHT? SO I WROTE IT DOWN REALLY QUICK, GAVE IT TO MODESTO.
SO THEN I TOOK IT TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARED.
GRACE WAS STILL HERE, UH, AT THE LIBRARY AT THAT TIME.
UM, LINDSAY, WHO WAS ALSO AT THE MUSEUM AT THE TIME, READ IT AND ALL OF THEM.
AND THE MAYOR, I GAVE IT TO THE MAYOR.
AND ONLY THE MAYOR IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO DID NOT SAY THAT I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO WRITE A CHILDREN'S STORY.
UM, AND THAT YEAR IS WHEN WE DID, WE DID CLEAN UP THE STORY A LITTLE BIT AND WE DID A PODCAST.
SO YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE PODCAST.
WHY DOES, UH, SANTA CLAUS COME TO LAKE JACKSON? FIRST WE DID A, UH, WEBCAST.
UM, WE DID A WEBCAST, SO YOU CAN ALSO SEE IT ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
AND WE ALWAYS DECIDED THAT THE STORY WOULD TURN INTO A BOOK.
SO BURL KIND OF SLOWED US DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DID BECOME A LITTLE COMMITTEE.
AND THE BOOK I WANTED TO SHOW YOU, JUST SO YOU CAN KNOW WHEN PEOPLE TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
UM, IT IS WRITTEN BY ME WITH EXTENSIVE REWRITES FROM PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW HOW CHILDREN READ BOOKS,
AND, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, MORGAN MCPHERSON, WHO YOU WILL KNOW AS THE ONE OF THE CHILDREN, LIBRARIANS AND ARTISTS OVER AT THE LIBRARY.
UM, SHE DID ALL OF THE ILLUSTRATION, WHICH IS A GREAT DEAL, MORE IMPORTANT THAN ACTUALLY WHAT I DID.
BUT IF YOU OPEN THE BOOK, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE A STICKER HERE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A 100 RUN SPECIAL EDITION HARD BACK THAT WE ARE GIVING TO THE MUSEUM AS A FOREVER FUNDRAISER.
SO SUBSEQUENT, UM, RUNS THAT THEY DO WILL BE UP TO THEM, BUT WE DID FUND THIS FIRST ONE.
AND IF YOU KEEP GOING, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TREE, AND THIS IS, COMES FROM THE ACTUAL PHOTO OF THE TREE.
MORGAN WENT OVER TO THE MUSEUM AND SHE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THEIR ARCHIVES TO COME UP WITH ALL OF THE ILLUSTRATIONS THAT YOU SEE IN HERE.
YOU TURN IT, AND YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THIS AS THE ALDEN B DOW HOUSE.
YOU CAN KEEP GOING AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING, YOU'LL GET INTO THE STORY.
AND THE STORY BASICALLY IS THAT TWO CHILDREN FIND SANTA CLAUS, AND HE IS GOING ON AND ON ABOUT THE MOST MAGNIFICENT TREE THAT HE'S EVER SEEN IN ANYBODY'S HOUSE.
AND IT'S IN THIS HOUSE IN LAKE JACKSON.
AND THEY COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR HIM TO COME BACK EARLY EVERY YEAR.
SO IF YOU KEEP GOING THROUGH THERE, YOU'LL START TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT LAKE JACKSON ITSELF, THIS WAY AND THAT WAY, THIS WAY AND THAT WAY IS IN THERE.
BUT HERE'S THE PAGE I'M LOOKING FOR.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT HE COMES BACK NOW IS THAT ALL THE CHILDREN AND A VERY SPECIAL TEAM LED BY THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR GO OUT TO A VERY SPECIAL PLACE BY A VERY SPECIAL TREE.
AND ALL THE PEOPLE HOLD HANDS AND THEY SAY 7, 7, 5, 6, 6.
THE IDEA BEING, I DID NOT KNOW THIS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A CHILDREN'S BOOK, THE CHILDREN NEED TO LEARN SOMETHING
SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THEY LEARN THE ZIP CODE 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE YOUNG.
SO ANYWAY, IF YOU KEEP GOING THROUGH THE BOOK, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE THE ACTUAL, UM, THINGS FROM LIGHT UP LAKE JACKSON, BECAUSE WE DO GO FROM FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS INTO LIGHT OF LAKE JACKSON.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ALSO HAVE, OH, THIS PHOTO.
YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THIS IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE.
THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE YES, YOU DO.
AND IF YOU KEEP GOING, YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THIS, THIS ONE, THIS WATER COLOR IS OF THE VERY FIRST FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS.
AND MORGAN FOUND ONE OF THE CARS FROM THERE.
AND SHE PUT THAT IN THERE TOO.
IF YOU KEEP GOING, YOU'LL FIND OTHER THINGS.
AND YES, ON THE VERY LAST PAGE YOU WILL FIND
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THAT IS THE STORY ABOUT WHY SANTA CLAUS COMES TO LAKE JACKSON BEFORE THANKSGIVING.HE STAYS UNTIL THE ELVES TELL HIM TO RETURN TO THE NORTH POLE ON THIS WAY AND THAT WAY.
SO, UM, IN THE BACK, I DID WANT YOU TO NOTICE THIS.
WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, PHOTOS.
AND I DID WANNA POINT OUT THIS PAGE BACK HERE TO YOU.
UM, THE STORY WAS CREATED THROUGH A STAFF COLLABORATION AMONG THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, THE LAKE JACKSON LIBRARY, AND THE LAKE JACKSON HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION.
EXTRA THANKS TO THE PRODUCTION MANAGERS, LINDY SCOBEL, CARLY CHRISMAN, AS WELL AS THE CONTENT EDITORS, ANDY LARSON AND JORDAN WEAVER.
IT HAS AN ISBN, WHICH MAKES IT AVAILABLE TO BE, UH, SOLD IN STORES.
AND I ALSO APPLIED FOR A LIBRARY OF CONGRESS NUMBER, WHICH I HAVEN'T GOTTEN YET.
AND SO THIS WILL BE IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.
SO WELL DONE THAT WAY YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT TO TELL PEOPLE IF THEY ASK YOU ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STORY ABOUT THE BACKSTORY.
ALL I NEED YOU TO DO IS JUST SIGN MY BOOK NOW.
UH, MORGAN AND I WILL BE SIGNING, UM, SIGNING THEM FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY THEM FROM EIGHT TO TWO 30 IN THE AFTERNOON AT FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS.
SO DURING BREAKFAST WITH SANTA, AND THEN HOLIDAYS AROUND THE HOLIDAYS AROUND THE WORLD.
AND CITY MANAGER DID APPROVED THOSE, THE MESSAGES.
ANY KIND OF, UH, ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO DO, WE WILL COME BACK WITH, UH, A DRAFT, A BETTER DRAFT OF A SOUND ORDINANCE, AND WE'VE GOT SOME FEEDBACK AND WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, BUYING SOME SOUND EQUIPMENT AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SOME, UH, DATA FOR YOU AND FOR SHARING.
[8. Construction Updates]
ALL RIGHT.I AM AT YOUR MERCY IF YOU READ THE, UH, PROJECT UPDATE, UH, FLYER HERE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ANY SPECIFIC ONE, OR I CAN GO BY EACH, IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S, YOU WANT, WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE DOG FACILITY? WHY IS IT, UH, THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO GET THE, UH, THE WINDSTORM? THE WHAT? UH, THE WINDSTORM CERTIFIED BUILDING, BECAUSE WHAT, UH, WHAT WE GOT FROM THE, UH, MANUFACTURER OR FROM THE FABRICATOR, UH, HAS, IS BEING, UH, DEBATED WHETHER IT IS WINDSTORM CERTIFIED OR NOT.
SO NOW WE GOT THE ENGINEERS, THE ORIGINAL ENGINEER, WINDSTORM ENGINEER, OUR WINDSTORM ENGINEER OF RECORD, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THIS THING, TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING THAT'S OUR HOLD, THAT'S OUR HOLD UP.
THERE IS CONTINUATION ON THE, ON THE PARKING, ON THE PARKING LOT THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE FORMING THE PARKING LOT.
SO SOON WE'LL SEE AT LEAST SOME CONCRETE GOING DOWN.
OH, THAT, SO THAT AT LEAST THAT PARTICULAR PAD WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WILL BE MORE SERVICEABLE AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION, FINISHING THE CONSTRUCTION.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE BOND CLOSEOUT DOCUMENT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO, TO CLOSE OUT OUR PROJECTS AND KIND OF LINE ITEM EVERYTHING.
SO EVERYBODY WHO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
THAT WAS, UH, JAMES', UH, YOU KNOW, IDEA.
HE BROUGHT IT UP FROM OTHER PLACES THAT HE HAS WORKED IN AND WE HAVE JUST DONE A LITTLE HYBRID OF THAT SYSTEM, UH, THAT, UH, SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED FOR, FOR US.
WE NEED TO GET SOME NEW ASSET ON THE BOOKS.
SO THAT'S PROJECT WE GONNA DO, WE GONNA ADD SOME ASSET VALUE TO THE BOOKS BECAUSE OUR ASSETS ARE ALL DEPRECIATED.
THAT'S WHAT WE, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD, A GOOD EXERCISE TO SHOW, HEY, WE ASKED FOR THIS BOND MONEY.
HERE'S WHAT WE SAID USED FOR, HERE'S HOW THAT TURNED OUT.
AND JUST KIND OF A CLEAN WAY TO CLOSE, CLOSE OUT A PROJECT.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, UH, IN, IN MY OFFICE.
UH, BECAUSE, UM, SAL, I'VE SEEN YOUR OFFICE.
MARLENE HAS SKIPPED THOSE RED PAPER SEX IS, UH, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I THINK IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, JAMES AND SAL ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SCURRYING DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS AND SOMETIMES WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION A YEAR IN SAL'S OFFICE, A YEAR AFTER THE
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PROJECT CLOSED.UH, WHERE NOW WE'RE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER RIGHT AFTER THE PROJECT CLOSES.
AND SO, AND, AND PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
SO, UH, THIS WAS OUR FIRST TWO ATTEMPTS.
UM, AND WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL ALONG THE WAY.
WE'LL GET, YEAH, WE STILL HAVE ONE THAT, UH, WE'RE WAITING FOR A, UH, A VIDEO OF THE PIPING THAT WENT IN THERE FOR THE SHARP ON ASPHALT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S A MATTER OF JUST GETTING THAT VIDEO SO WE CAN CONFIRM THE, UH, THE WORK, THE INSIDE WORK.
SO HOW MUCH DELAY THIS, UH, WINDSTORM IS GONNA COST WITH COMPLETION DATE OF MAY 1ST AS FAR AS TIME? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THERE.
UH, REAL, YOU WANT TO TAKE A GANDER FROM THAT? WE CAN YOU SIGN THIS? I TALKED TO WORK ENGINEER TODAY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOPEFUL BY NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD GET A GREEN LIGHT AND THEN WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET A NEW ESTIMATE COMING.
AUSTIN, WHERE'S APPROVAL COMING FROM? NO.
YEAH, AUSTIN AND DALLAS I BELIEVE BECAUSE THERE IS THREE ENGINEER WE CONTACTED ONE, THE MANUFACTURER CONTACTED ONE.
THE ISSUE WAS THE INDIVIDUAL PANEL WAS DESIGNED STRUCTURALLY, BUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM AS A BUILDING, THAT'S THE QUESTION CAME IN WINDSTORM.
I NEED TO SEE THE WHOLE BUILDING WHEN IT PUT IT TOGETHER.
HOW THE WINDSTORM WORKS IS ALL THAT, THAT'S UP NOW IS IN, IN, IF THE WINDSTORM DIDN'T GET APPROVED, ALL THAT UP THERE, NOW YOU GOTTA START ALL OVER.
THEY JUST GONNA, THEY JUST GONNA ADD SOME MORE COLUMNS AND BE AND WHICH WILL BE THEIR COST.
UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, LET SEE.
SO WHERE ARE WE? WHAT'S THE COMPLETION DATE ON IT? ANY IDEA? WE STILL LOOKING AT, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY MORE TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANKS.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
ALL RIGHT.UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS, COMMUNITY INTEREST.
UH, MR. BAKER, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, NOPE.
I GUESS I SEE EVERYONE AT FESTIVAL LIGHT NEXT.
UM, THIS SATURDAY STARTS FRIDAY.
EVERYBODY AT FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYBODY.
YEAH, DON'T EAT TOO MUCH MODESTO.
UM, WELL SPEAKING OF FIST FLIGHTS, WE'RE MO WE ARE MONITORING THE WEATHER.
SO, UM, WE'LL MAKE A CALL ON, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING HAS TO BE ADJUSTED, UM, ON, ON WEATHER.
BUT WE, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE AND STAFF MEETS ON, UM, WEDNESDAY AS OUR FIRST FIRST DISCUSSION POINT.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, FOR THE PARADE THAT DISCUSSION POINTS USUALLY ALSO GET TOUCHED ON, ON, IN, ON FRIDAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THE PARADE GOERS.
AND HOW WOULD THAT INFORMATION GET OUT IF ROBIN'S THE GIRL ON? WE'LL, IF WE HAVE TO CANCEL, IF WE HAVE TO CANCEL THE PARADE, THEN THAT'S GETS POSTED AND THEN THEY GET TOLD, USUALLY YEAH, WE, WE CONTACT EVERYONE.
WE TRY TO CONTACT THEM EVEN, UM, IF WE HAVE TO CALL, WE SEND OUT MESSAGES, WE, YOU KNOW, WE START LETTING THEM KNOW THINGS IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN START LOOKING FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
HOW FAR IN ADVANCE DO WE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY, WHAT THEY HAD SAID IN THE LAST ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS, YOU JUST, YOU MAKE THAT CALL LIKE CLOSER TO FRIDAY.
YOU KNOW, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT WEATHER IS LOOKING LIKE.
IF IT'S KIND OF AN IFFY THING, WE WILL MAKE IT EARLY ENOUGH.
WE WILL NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
WE WILL MAKE IT EARLY ENOUGH BEFORE ANYONE SHOWS UP.
AND THE LAST TIME WHEN WE YES.
YOU KNOW, CANCELED IT, WE CANCELED IT, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MINUTE.
UM, THE WEATHER REALLY WASN'T A PROBLEM.
IT WAS COLD, IT WAS COLD, WET AND THEN MM-HMM
THE THIRD POINT ON IT WAS THERE WAS NOT AMPLE LIGHTING DOWNTOWN.
'CAUSE IT WAS A CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
SO THERE WERE THREE THINGS GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME OR WEATHER AND THEN MM-HMM.
UH, THIS TIME I, I THINK WE, UNLESS IT'S, UNLESS WE REALLY SEEING TORRENTIAL RAIN YEAH.
I, I, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'LL CANCEL IT.
BUT WE'LL STILL, WE'LL STILL MAKE THE CALL AND TRY TO MAKE IT EARLY ENOUGH SO YES.
AND 'CAUSE ONCE YOU CANCEL IT, YOU CAN'T GO BACK.
AND IT'S TEXAS, SO I HATE TO SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT CALL FRIDAY BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU NOW AND THEN SATURDAY.
SATURDAY YOU MAKE THAT CALL FRIDAY AND THEN IT DOESN'T EVEN
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RAIN.SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT BUT EARLY ENOUGH BEFORE PEOPLE SHOW UP.
SO SATURDAY, SATURDAY AND NOON? IS THAT WHAT THEY SAID? OKAY.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A KUDOS TO ROBIN.
I WAS DRIVING DOWNTOWN LAST WEEK AND I SEE THE DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OUT STRINGING UP CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN THE, IN THE MEDIA THAT WAS IN.
IT'S A GOOD TAKE YOUR MIND OFF.
I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT MODESTA SAID.
HE WAS RIGHT ON A COUPLE OF THIS ANYWAY.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.YOU'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT, UH, 7 45.
EXECUTIVE SESSION CITY OF COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE FOR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.