[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
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[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? YES.YOU MEAN FROM THE LAST MEETING,
THE MINUTES REFLECTED THAT I LEFT AT 7 47.
I AM A RECENT STAGE FOUR CANCER SURVIVOR AND YOU NEVER KNOW IN THE HORRIBLE WORLD OF CHEMO, EVEN ORAL CHEMO, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL BAD AND THINK YOU'RE GOING TO THROW UP ON YOUR BEST FRIEND, UH, OR NEED TO LEAVE.
SO I THINK I, I'VE BEEN ON BOARDS SINCE 1988.
I'VE SERVED ON TEXAS STATE BAR REVIEW AFTER PRE-LAW.
I'VE SERVED ON, UM, TEXAS SMALL BUSINESS COUNCIL AND THREE IN LAKE JACKSON AND NUMEROUS IN THE COUNTY.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT IF SOMEONE HAS AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE, SUCH AS RECENT RECOVERY FROM CANCER, I'M IN REMISSION NOW FOR ONLY THREE MONTHS AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME ILLNESS FREE.
SO WHEN I STOOD UP LAST MONTH AND HAD TO WALK OUT, IT TOOK TWO PEOPLE TO GET ME OUT THE DOOR AND, UH, BILL
AND I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A NOTATION FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T JUST GET UP AND WALK OUT, WHO GET UP FOR A REASON AND ARE ESCORTED TO THEIR CAR.
I AM A PROUD CITY OF LAKE JACKSON RESIDENT.
WE HAVE BOUGHT, OUR FAMILY IS STILL A FAMILY.
ALTHOUGH WE LIVE IN DIFFERENT HOMES AND SOMETIMES DIFFERENT STATES, THE APLAND FAMILY IS STILL A FAMILY.
AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME OF THE FINEST REAL ESTATE IN THIS CITY, INCLUDING WHERE I LIVE.
NORTHWOOD, I REMEMBER BUYING IT AS A PASTOR BUILDING EVERY ROAD, EVERY BRIDGE.
I THINK I'M NOT UNIQUELY ALL OF YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR THIS POSITION.
HOWEVER, WHEN I WAS FIRST, UM, APPOINTED TO COMMISSION, I HADN'T BEEN DIAGNOSED YET AND I THOUGHT ABOUT JUST QUITTING ENTIRELY.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS THAT I'M VERY QUALIFIED FOR MY POSITION ON THIS COMMISSION.
I'VE BEEN READING PLATS, BUILDING ROADS, BUILDING HOMES AND LARGE CONVENIENCE STORES AND FAMILY FITNESS CAMPUS ALL MY LIFE.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE RECORD TO SHOW AS MUCH BECAUSE I DIDN'T JUST GET UP AND WALK OUT.
CAN YOU WORK WITH, UH KAY PUT A NOTE IN THERE? YES SIR.
DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE AMENDMENTS FOR THE MINUTES TO THAT SHE LEFT ME TO HOWEVER SHE WANTS TO WRITE IT.
IT'S A THING OF PRIVACY THOUGH, KAY.
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IT IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, THEY DIDN'T SAY YOU WALKED OUT 'CAUSE YOU WERE BORED.IT'S PROTECTING, PROTECTING YOUR PRIVACY, BEING THE FACT THAT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, EVEN THOUGH MANY TIMES HAS BEEN STATED THAT YOU HAVE CANCER ON THE RECORD FOR THE, FOR THE AUDIENCE TO HEAR.
I THINK THE WAY TO HANDLE IT IS PUT IT OUT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, ABSENT IT BREAKING QUORUM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT MATTERED.
UH, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT WAS MINUTE WORTHY HIPAA LAWS ARE VERY SEVERE AND THEY SHOULD BE, UH, WHAT YOU JUST SAID ON THE RECORD TO THE VIDEO ANYONE WANTS TO WATCH.
IF ANY OF US SAID IT WOULD BE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN MM-HMM
I THINK WORK WITH ANNA ABOUT IF IT'S ILLNESSES, THAT'S WHAT YOU FIND AND THEN HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THE ILLNESS IS NOT FEELING WELL IS FINE.
UH, BUT ABSENT THE FACT THAT IT DIDN'T BREAK QUORUM, WHO CARES? UH, WOULD YOU SUGGEST JUST TAKE THE REFERENCE OUT? TOTALLY.
I WOULD YOU THINK? WELL, I APPRECIATE AS SOMEBODY WHO CHAIRS A COUPLE OF BOARDS RIGHT NOW, WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP TRACK OF THAT, WHETHER IT'S, UH, ALTHOUGH I'M USUALLY SOMEBODY'S ARRIVING LATE.
PLEASE NOTE THAT SOMEBODY'S HERE SO THEY GET COUNTED AFTER ROLL'S BEEN TAKEN.
UM, I THINK OUT OF DEEP RESPECT FOR UK I THINK JUST WORK WITH HER AND HOWEVER IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.
OR JUST REFLECTED AS A REASON.
WELL IF, IF IT STANDS PART OF THE LEGAL RECORD, I DON'T MIND A COMMA DUE TO ILLNESS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT STAGE FOUR CANCER.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, ANNA, I GET WITH YOU.
AND THAT SOLVES ALL THE OTHER VERBAL THINGS YOU SAID.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I NEVER EVER PUT THAT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
I WALKED IN HERE THE FIRST TIME, NEVER TOLD Y'ALL ANYTHING AND CAME IN BALDHEADED.
I ASSUME WE PREEMPTIVELY APPROVE THE MINUTES YES.
VISITORS' COMMENTS? WHAT THE MINUTES? MINUTES? I DUNNO.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO SIGN WHATEVER YOU AMEND, DON'T WE? I'M PROBABLY GONNA JUST DO LIKE I WOULD DO ON A CONTRACTED MEDIATION.
I'M GONNA PROBABLY INSERT IT
ANYBODY'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
NOW IS THE TIME TO COME FORWARD.
ANYBODY THAT COMES FORTH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
[4. FINAL REVIEW AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON APARTMENTS AT 128 W PLANTATION DRIVE FILED ON DECEMBER 2, 2025]
AND ACTION ON LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON.APARTMENTS AT 1 28 WEST PLANTATION DRIVE FILED ON DECEMBER THE SECOND, 2025.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S ANY REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
IF THERE'S NONE, I'LL JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WROTE DOWN OUR, OUR MINUTES REALLY FROM WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME ON THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION, UH, WHERE OUR, UH, UM, MATT, UH, MATT, UH, MATT JUNE HERE GAVE AN ELOQUENT, ELOQUENT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY TYPED IT UP QUITE WELL.
THE DESCRIPTION OF, OF WHAT HE FELT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, WHICH WAS, UH, FAIRLY WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ON, ON, YOU KNOW, SPOT AND, UH, BUT EVERYONE AGREED TO THAT.
I THINK EVERYONE WAS IN, IN UNISON WITH HIM IN THAT RESPECT.
BUT, AND, AND THIS THING AS A ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, REVIEW, UH, THIS TIME THEY CAME IN, UH, WE SENT BACK IN THERE FOR FINAL, UH, JUST FINAL TWEAKS ON THE, UH, SOME OF THE TREES THAT WERE STILL IN DOUBT THAT EDDIE HAD, UH, INDICATED ON HIS REVIEW, IN HIS REVIEW AND, UH, MADE THEM GO BACK IN THERE AND CONFIRM THOSE, WHICH NOW THEY ARE.
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AND THIS NEW, UH, THIS NEW SUBMITTAL REFLECTS THAT NOW AS IT IN ITS FINAL FORM.AND IT, UH, DIDN'T, DOESN'T CHANGE MUCH IN THE OVERALL TALLY OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, PLAN.
THE TREES ARE STILL FAR EXCEED, YOU KNOW, EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, THE EFFORT THEY PUT BACK IN TRYING TO BRING IT BACK INTO SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE WAY.
SO WE, UH, RECOMMEND THAT YOU, UH, CONSIDER GIVING IT A FINAL APPROVAL AS FILED.
WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO ACCEPT FINAL REVIEW ON ACTION ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE VILLAS AT LAKE JACKSON APARTMENTS AT 1 28 WEST PLANTATION DRIVE FILED ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2025.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
ALL, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[5. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF BRAZOS MALL SUBDIVISION BLOCK A, REPLAT NO. 1, THE OLD RED LOBSTER TRACT AT 104 W. HWY 332]
REVIEW AND ACTION OF BRA, SMALL SUBDIVISION BLOCK.A REFL NUMBER ONE, THE OLD RED LOBSTER TRACK AT 1 0 4 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32.
UH, SO THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU AS A AMENDMENT TO, OR TO ADD A LINE, BE A RELA TO ADD A LINE, MAKE TWO PARCELS OUT OF THE OLD RED LOBSTER TRACT.
WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH LIKE, DEVELOPERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE PARCELS.
NOTHING HAS HIT OUR DESK AS A FORMAL SUBMITTAL FOR THE ONE, ALTHOUGH IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CAR WASH, QUICK PACK, CAR WASH IS LOOKING AT IT.
THE SECOND SITE, UM, LOOKS LIKE CHIPOTLE IS LOOKING AT THAT ONE.
UM, THOSE ARE BOTH LESS THAN TWO ACRES, SO THEY WON'T COME BEFORE YOU BASED ON, UH, ORDINANCE.
UH, THERE ARE A FEW TWEAKS, MAKING SURE IT TIED INTO OUR CITY BENCHMARK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, NOTHING VERY MAJOR WITH THIS.
ANY ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE, PLUMBING, WHATEVER.
NICOLE, CAN I ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN? OH, SURE.
YOU WANT THE ENGINEERING RECORD, AREN'T YOU? NO, NO.
MY NAME IS MIGUEL SDO WITH BAKER AND LAWSON.
UH, A WHILE BACK, UM, GENE WARLAND WAS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY MM-HMM
AND, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES ON THIS TRACK IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING THERE.
HALF OF IT GOES DRAINS TO THE LEFT, THE OTHER HALF DRAINS TO THE RIGHT ON, UM, TEXAS STATE HIGHWAY 3, 3, 2.
UM, I HAD SPOKE WITH TDOT, THEIR DRAINAGE ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I KNOW THIS PLANT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME TO VDD.
UM, BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAD IS, UH, WHEN THE PANDA EXPRESS HAD BUILT THEIR DRIVEWAY, THEY GOT RID OF THE DITCH THAT DRAIN THE EAST HALF OF THEIR PARKING LOT THAT GOES TOWARDS THAT INLET.
UH, WE SPOKE TO TAN LU AT TDOT ABOUT IT, BUT BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID WAS IS, WELL, WHEN YOU DO THE WORK AND REDESIGN THIS PARKING LOT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE WATER TO THE WEST.
SO, UM, IF YOU DO DO THIS PLAN WHEN IT COMES TO VDD, ONE THING I WOULD JUST SUGGEST IS THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE EASEMENT FOR LOT ONE AND A AND ONE B THAT ALLOWS ONE B TO DRAIN TO THE WEST.
UM, AND SO THE ROAD IS RIGHT HERE BETWEEN THE TWO? CORRECT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT.
THAT'S JUST ME TALKING AS A THIRD PARTY HERE.
DO WE NEED TO CAPTURE THAT SOME WAY? SI THINK WE'VE GOT, OR HER MIND HAS GOT
MY PEN IS MY, MINE IS NOT ALWAYS A HUNDRED PERCENT STILL PREP.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT ITEM.
UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ADDRESSED FOR, UM, THE TWO PEOPLE WHO WANNA DEVELOP THESE, THESE SITES.
I REMEMBER WE TOOK CARE OF THE LANDSCAPING FOR RED LOBSTER AND IT WAS PRETTY GNARLY AFTER PANDA GOT BUILT.
IT'S GONNA BE MESSY FOR, I MEAN, JUST THE, THE PARKING LOT ALONE, EVEN WITH A QUARTER INCH RAIN, THAT WHOLE WEST, THAT WHOLE WEST SIDE THAT USED TO BE ON, I GUESS THE BACK, YOU KNOW, THE BACK WALL FACING THE MALL WOULD BE A FOOT AND A HALF DEEP UP TO THE CURB.
SO, I MEAN, IT MAKES A FINE POINT.
NOT A TON OF SPACE BEFORE 3 32.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE, THEY'LL HAVE TO GET CREATIVE.
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ENFORCE, AS LONG AS WE ENFORCE THE CREATIVITY, I'M COOL WITH IT.THAT'S WHEN WE DON'T ENFORCE IT.
LIKE OUR FRIENDS OVER HERE ON OUR SIX YEAR PROJECT IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT'S GONNA BE A, UH, CAR WASH THAT WE, WE WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOES DOWN THEIR DRAINS.
WE'LL GO LOOK AT THE QUICK QUACK CAR WASH IN ANGLETON.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THE TINY LITTLE LOT.
THAT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY PULLED THAT OFF.
YEAH, WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE TOO SMALL.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THEY EVIDENTLY HAVE A PLAN.
THEY HAVE A PROTOTYPE THAT WORKS.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? THEY BUILT THAT ONE UP IN ANGLETON QUITE HIGH TOO.
UM, THE DRAINAGE I WAS GONNA BRING UP BEFORE MIGUEL SAID ANYTHING THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN IN MY OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THAT, NO.
I MEAN, I, I'M STILL BAFFLED THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THE LESS THAN TWO ACRE THING, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DAY OF FIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A, A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE NCE LAW SUBDIVISION BLOCK.
A REPL NUMBER ONE, THE OLD RED LOBSTER TRACK AT 1 0 4 WEST HIGHWAY 3 32.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[6. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF CHAPELWOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AT 300 WILLOW DRIVE]
REVIEW AND ACTION OF CHAPEL WOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AT 300 WILLOW DRIVE.AND ON THIS ONE I LET, UH, MR. TAKE OVER SINCE HE IS THE, UH, ENGINEER OF RECORD THAT PREPARED THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THIS? CORRECT.
SO, UM, RANDY LISKA IS THE ENGINEER WHO DID THE DESIGN FOR THIS PLAN, AND THIS IS CURRENTLY JUST ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, THIS IS JUST FOR ME TO TAKE NOTES, WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR OFFICE AND WE WILL ADDRESS THEM.
UM, SO THE ANDACTION IS NOT PROPER, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION.
YEAH, ACTION ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
AND SO JUST TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF THE SITE, UM, WE HAVE THE EXISTING BUILDING RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS THE CHURCH.
AND THERE IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME UPGRADES TO THE PARKING LOT.
UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS POINTER IS WORKING, IT IS POINTING ON THE CEILING.
UM, THE ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE WIDENED TO ABOUT OKAY.
A LITTLE OVER 40 FEET AND UH HUH.
DO YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM IN? NO, NO, IT'S FINE.
UM, UM, WE'RE GONNA WIDEN THE DRIVEWAY.
WE'RE GOING TO DEMO THE PARKING LOT AND REDO THE ENTIRE STRIPING OF THE PARKING LOT TO INCREASE THE SPACES.
UM, I CAN PROBABLY SEE THIS ON THE PIPELINE.
THE ORIGINAL PARKING LOT HAS 166 PARKING SPACES.
UH, WITH THE NEW REDESIGN OF THE PARKING LOT, THE PARKING COUNT'S GONNA GO UP FOR SPACES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DETENTION IN THE BACK.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD A DITCH BACK HERE JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CHANGE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER.
THERE WILL BE A NEW COVERED PATIO DROP OFF AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE.
COULD YOU MAKE THAT LARGER? YEAH, THANK YOU.
MY SCREEN'S LITTLE, SO TELL ME.
UM, ONE QUESTION THAT NICOLE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE MEETING, SOMEONE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT STACKING LENGTH IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, I TOOK A REAL QUICK MEASUREMENT BEFORE I GOT HERE, BUT, UH, THE TOTAL LANE FROM THIS COVERED AREA ALL THE WAY TO THE ENTRANCE IS 514 FEET.
SO WE DO MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE STACKING.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE STACKING THOUGH.
UH, OUR REQUIREMENT OF 21, THIS ASSUMES YOU HAVE FIVE CHILDREN IN THE BACKSEAT OF EACH CAR.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT CAN REALLY BE THE, THE CITY WILL BE SATISFIED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT REALLY WORKS.
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DO THEY DO THE UH, UNLOADING AT THE SAME TIME FOR ALL THE CLASSES? YOU WANT ME TO GET UP AND TALK PLEASE? I'VE NEVER SEEN IT READ ROAD BEFORE.I'LL BILL TEST WITH CHAPELLE WOOD.
UH, MY ADDRESS HERE IN THE CITY IS 14 HERITAGE OAK COURT.
OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHURCH, UH, ON 300 WILLOW DRIVE.
UH, THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS, BUT, UH, YOU CAN DO DOWN AT THE, THERE IS A COMMENT BLOCK WHERE IT SAYS A MINIMUM NUMBER ONE, UH, RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.
GIVES YOU A SUMMARY OF IT SITE AND BELLWOOD PLAN SHOWN IS REVISED WITH AN EXPANDED DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE EXIT REMOVAL OF GRASS AREAS IN THE PARKING LOT FOR ADDITIONAL SITE PARKING.
AND THE 30 BY 30 COVERED DROP OFF AND THE DETENTION POND.
THE DRIVER FOR THIS PROJECT, THE REAL DRIVER IS WE HAVE A PRESCHOOL MINISTRY THERE AT THE CHURCH, A PRESCHOOL.
YOU NOW HAVE A HUNDRED CHILDREN AND SO EARLY IN THE MORNING AND LATE IN THE EVENING, UH, YOU HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND WE WANTED TO ENHANCE THAT TRAFFIC FLOW.
STACKING WAS NOT REALLY A PROBLEM.
IT WAS THE ISSUE OF THE DROPPING OFF THE KIDS AND THE WAY IT WAS BEING DONE AND THE KIDS GO TO THE BACK OF THE CAR, HERE COMES THE NEXT CAR.
THERE'S SOME SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS THERE THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS.
SO IN COVERING THE GRASS AREAS THAT, THAT EXIST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING SURFACE, NOW WE ACTUALLY GET TWO LANES OF DROP OFF AND WE WILL BRING THE CARS AROUND.
AND WHERE'S THE, TELL ME WHERE THE, THE CIRCULAR BUTTON THAT'S, HERE'S AN EASY ONE BILL.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU GO, YOU COME IN, THEY WILL COME IN HERE AND THEY WILL DROP OFF, UH, IN THIS AREA HERE.
BUT THE, UH, THE, THE, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO NOW IN THE FUTURE, THEY'LL COME IN AND PARK IN THESE SPACES AND THE CHILDREN WILL BE DROPPED OFF TO THE FRONT OF THE CAR DOWN THIS SIDEWALK TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE PRESCHOOL, WHICH IS HERE.
SO NOBODY'S GETTING DROPPED OFF BEHIND, WHICH IS MUCH SAFER FOR EVERYBODY.
THEY'RE NOT DROPPING OFF HERE UNDER THE CUPBOARD AREA.
THE COVERED AREA WILL NOT BE TYPICALLY BE USED FOR DROP OFF.
YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING AROUND THE COVERED AREA HERE WHEN ALL THIS IS COVERED UP.
OF COURSE, IF IT'S INCLEMENT WEATHER, PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO DROP OFF.
BUT, UH, JENNIFER, OUR PRESCHOOL PRINCIPAL, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OVER HERE TO DROP OFF NORM IN NORMAL OPERATIONS.
THE, UH, THE COVERED AREA AND THIS RAMP THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN HERE, A DA COMPLIANT RAMP WILL BE USED WHEN IT'S INCLEMENT WEATHER.
THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THAT.
THIS IS ALREADY COVERED UP TO THIS POINT.
SO THE ROOF OF THE, UH, 30 BY 30 CANOPY ACTUALLY OVERLAPS.
SO YOU GET A CONTINUAL COVERED AREA THERE.
UH, WE WANTED TO DO THIS OUT HERE SO WE COULD GET A LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANE COMING, EXITING THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE OUT HERE ON THIS, GOING ON TO WHEELER DRIVE ON THIS SIDE.
THE SECOND DRIVER WAS TO RESURFACE ALL OF THE ASPHALT AREA, WHICH IS OUT IN THIS AREA.
UH, AND THEN A THIRD THING THAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT THAT'S NOT MENTIONED HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO INCREASE OUR A DA COMPLIANT PARKING.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONLY FOUR SPOTS UP HERE BY THE SANCTUARY ENTRANCE, WHICH IS HERE.
AND NOW WE'RE HAVING, WE'LL HAVE 20 HERE AS WELL AS THE VISITOR PARKING RIGHT HERE WHEN YOU FIRST DRIVE IN.
SO WE'RE INCREASING A DA COMPLIANT PARKING AND ENHANCING THE TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL FOR THE PRESCHOOL.
AND THEN RECOVERING THE ASPHALT AREA.
THOSE ARE THE DRIVERS FOR THE PROJECT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY CARS WE ARE DEALING WITH WHEN WE DROP OFF OR? I DO NOT.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT STACKING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE STREET WHEN THEY, WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
THEY DO NOT STACK LIKE THAT MUCH.
THEY STACK SOME BUT NOT ALL THE WAY OUT TO WILLOW DRIVE.
AND THE, THE MORNING IS WORSE THAN THE EVENING.
EVENING IS KIND OF STAGGERED BECAUSE THE KIDS STAY DIFFERENT TIMES.
THEY DON'T ALL GET PICKED UP AT THE SAME TIME.
MORNING DROP OFF IS WHEN THE, WHEN IT'S HECTIC.
I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A CONTINGENCY PLAN OF HAVING THE ATTACKING GO, UH, CLOCKWISE AROUND THROUGH HERE.
THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE CHURCH SEVERAL TIMES.
WHAT THERE FOR TRAFFIC FLOW WHEN YOU EXIT, YOU COME AROUND THIS WAY AND YOU EXIT BACK HERE AND EVERYBODY EXITS LIKE THIS.
IT'S NOT THE EXIT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
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IT'S THE ENTRANCETHEY'RE COMING IN, THEY'RE COMING THIS WAY.
THEY GO AROUND THE COVERED AREA.
THERE'LL BE ACTUALLY BE TWO LANES THERE.
THEY COME BACK HERE, THEY PARK AND THE CHILDREN ARE DROPPED OFF TO THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLES HERE AND THEN INTO THE PRESCHOOL ENTRANCE.
SO IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT, YOU EXCEED THE REQUIREMENT ON STACKING, I'M SORRY.
YOU EXCEED THE REQUIREMENT ON STACKING.
IF THERE EVER IS AN ISSUE, WHICH THERE IS NOT YET.
THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH STACKING, YOU'RE JUST GOING PROVE THINGS ANYWAY.
BUT IF THERE EVER WAS A STACKING PROBLEM, YOU GOT PLENTY OF REAL ESTATE TO REGROUP.
ANYTHING? NO, I KNOW THAT PROPERTY WELL MY SON WENT TO BCS MM-HMM
SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT CHURCH.
AND I THINK SOME OF OUR, MY FRIENDS' KIDDOS WENT TO THE PRESCHOOL.
TERRY, ANYTHING ELSE? YES, UH, I GOT SEVERAL THINGS.
I'M A A MEMBER OF THIS CHURCH, SO THAT'S, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PARKING AND SUCH, BUT, UH, TWO THINGS.
UH, ONE RIGHT HERE, OUR MEMBERS LIKE TO PARK ON THE GRASS.
SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TRAFFIC LOG, UH, PARKING LOTS THERE.
YOU SEE 'EM RIGHT THERE? SEE THOSE, THOSE ARE PARKING LOGS.
WELL, THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 THERE AND THIS IS THE, UH, WASTE DUMPSTER.
YEAH, THAT'S MOVED, DOESN'T IT? IT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT WILL BE.
IT'S GONNA BE ON A 10 BY 10 PAD AND IT WILL HAVE A SCREEN OR A WOODEN FENCE AROUND IT, JUST FOR COSMETIC REASONS.
THAT, THAT IS DIFFERENT THOUGH, ISN'T IT? NO, IT'S WHERE IT IS NOW.
IT ACTUALLY ONLY GETS SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO THE SOUTH FROM WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY SITTING RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE TREES RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA THAT ACTUALLY WILL SIT BETWEEN TWO OF THEM THERE.
WHAT IS THE RATIONALE OF NOT FLOWING LIKE WE DO NOW WITH THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TAKING THIS BACK DIRECTION? ALRIGHT, IN DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WE'RE CHANGING THIS UP SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXIT COMING DOWN THIS WAY AS WELL AS THROUGH HERE.
YOU SEE THE WAY THE SLANT IS ON THE PARKING PLACE, WE ACTUALLY GAINED PARKING SPACES BY DOING THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT RIGHT NOW MY EXPERIENCE ABOUT THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CARS GOING TO CHURCH, TAKE THIS PATH HERE AND PARK VERY QUICKLY AND THEN GO TO RIGHT NOW THE PARKING BLOCK, THE SLANT IS NOT THE WAY IT'S SHOWN HERE.
WHEN YOU COME IN THIS WAY IN THE MORNING, THE ACTUAL SLANT OF THE PARKING IS LIKE, IT IS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WHAT IT'S SHOWN HERE.
WHY? IT'S THE WAY IT ALWAYS WAS.
NO, I MEAN THIS, WHY IS THIS THAT AWAY? BECAUSE YOU CAN LOOK ALRIGHT IN THIS ONE, YOU, YOU'RE GAINING PARKING SPACES OVER WHAT YOU HAVE NOW, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA IN HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEE THE ARROWS THE WAY THEY'RE GOING, THE YEAH.
THE FEEDER IS TO COME UP THIS WAY AND THEN YOU CAN GO RIGHT OR LEFT.
WHICH TO ME MAKES MORE SENSE THAN STARTING OVER HERE AND GOING RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
LET ME, LET ME MAKE, LET ME MAKE MY SENSE HERE.
RIGHT HERE, INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, A FEW CARS, WE AVOID THIS PATH HERE BECAUSE THERE'S UH, THOSE TRAFFIC BUMPS AND IT'S SLOW AND ALL THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM THE PARKING AREA THIS WAY.
SO THIS IS A, YOU HAVE, UH, 70, 80 PEOPLE, A HUNDRED PEOPLE COMING THIS WAY.
RIGHT? AND YOU'RE CROSSING TRAFFIC HERE.
SO THE ONLY TRAFFIC YOU PASS NOW IS THE ONES THAT ARE BEING LET OFF.
UH, IF YOU HAVE AN AFFLICTION OR SUCH AND YOU NEED TO HELP.
AND THE BULK OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE UP HERE VERY QUICKLY.
SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE THIS WITH PROBABLY 50 CARS GOING THROUGH HERE WHILE YOU'VE GOT A HUNDRED PEOPLE WALKING THIS WAY.
AND THIS IS THE MOST CONGESTED PART OF THE WHOLE THING.
NOW HE'S TALKING SUNDAY MORNING NOW IS WHAT HE'S TALKING RIGHT? NOT NOT SCHOOL.
UH, IF THEY'RE COMING HERE AND WE'RE BRINGING, REMEMBER THERE'S, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE LANE.
WE ONLY I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ONE LANE.
BUT THAT'S STILL 50 CARS GOING THERE WITH UH, A HUNDRED PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THAT SAME DIRECTION.
WHY? WHAT ARE WE IMPROVING OTHER THAN NUMBER PARKING SPOTS BY ALLOWING THE TRAFFIC FLOW LIKE IT IS NOW FOR SUNDAY MORNINGS.
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RIGHT.YOU WILL HAVE, WELL YOU'LL STILL HAVE PARKING LOGS IN HERE TO SLOW THINGS UP.
THERE'S PAR SPEED BUMPS IN THIS LANE RIGHT HERE.
SO THERE'S STILL GONNA BE SLOW TRAFFIC COMING IN.
WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PEDESTRIANS NOW COMING IN AND GOING OUT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANY FROM WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
OH, IT CHANGES BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING OVER HERE AND PARK IT.
I COME IN AND PARK HERE ALONG WITH THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.
SO I ONLY CROSS THIS AREA WALKING.
OR IF I'M CROSSING IT HERE AND THE CARS, ALL THE CARS, THIS IS SAYING ALL THE CARS GO THROUGH HERE, THE WHOLE CONGREGATION IS GONNA BE DRIVING THROUGH THERE WHILE PEOPLE ARE WALKING ACROSS THERE TOO.
I'M JUST ASKING WHY IS THIS BETTER THAN THE WAY WE HAVE NOW? THE ONLY EXPLANATION I CAN GIVE YOU FOR THAT, HARRY, IS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS PRIMARILY FOR PRESCHOOL CONSIDERATIONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
FOR SUNDAY MORNING, WE DIDN'T SEE THIS BEING MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.
REALLY? NOT EVERYBODY ARRIVES AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY'RE GONNA WALK ACROSS, WHICH AS THEY DO RIGHT NOW, THIS AREA HERE TO COME TO THE SANCTUARY AND THERE ARE WALKWAYS IN HERE TO DO THAT.
BUT YES, THERE'S GONNA BE, THE PEOPLE WILL COME IN THERE, NOBODY'S GONNA BE TURNING LEFT AND GOING THIS WAY.
THAT'S THE CHANGE THAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M SAYING THAT YES, IT CAUSES SOME ISSUES.
THE ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS OUR COMMITTEE, UH, THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING, STUDYING THIS FOR SIX MONTHS, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS THE BEST SOLUTION, UH, TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THE PRESCHOOL ISSUES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE WE WANTED TO GET.
I, I THOUGHT I'D BEEN TO NOT ALL THOSE MEETINGS, UH, BUT, UH, I THOUGHT I'D BEEN TO ALL THE MEETINGS TO THE CONGREGATION AND I'D NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.
UH, THIS IS BEEN PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE AND PAUL HAS A COPY OF OUR PASTOR HAS A COPY OF IT IN HIS OFFICE.
SO IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR A WHILE.
I, I, LIKE I SAID IT, I DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN MIKE WAS GIVING IT, BUT, UH, JUST, I STILL WOULD THINK Y'ALL OUGHT TO PROBABLY READDRESS IT.
I'LL LET IT GO AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
BUT, UH, UH, I, I THINK WE CAN GET THOSE DROPS IN THERE.
AND IT ONLY REQUIRES CHANGING THE STRIPES OVER HERE.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE IT REQUIRES.
SO I MEAN, STRIPING, WE CAN, WE CAN FIX A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I, I THINK YOUR CONCERN IS, IS WHEN PEOPLE COME AND THEY DRIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, LEMME GET THE POINTER.
WHEN PEOPLE COME AND THEY DRIVE, WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS LIKE, SAY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME PARK OVER HERE, THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE POTENTIALLY THROUGH THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, CONFLICTING WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TRYING TO ENTER THE CHURCH JUST TO GET TO HERE.
UH, ARE YOU THINKING THAT YOU WOULD SEE OR THINK THERE'D BE A BENEFIT IF WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE MOMENT PEOPLE PULL INTO PART THAT THEY ENTERED THE PARKING LOT, THIS AREA WHILE THE PEOPLE WHO DO DROP OFFS ONLY COME THROUGH HERE? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOUR THOUGHT IS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
YOU JUST WANNA MINIMIZE IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME DO DROP OFF, THEY ONLY COME THIS WAY.
AND IF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO PARK, WE KIND OF DO SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME THROUGH HERE INSTEAD.
IF YOU'VE EVER GONE TO CHURCH THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT HARRY'S TALKING ABOUT.
AND IF YOU MADE THIS TWO WAY RIGHT HERE AND PUT THESE THE OPPOSITE WAY, SO THIS COULD BE COMING FROM THAT WAY AND JUST MAKE THAT TWO WAY, IT'S NEVER, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PARKING LOT FULL ON A SUNDAY ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE.
AND HARRY, TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S JUST PAINT ON THE ROAD SO YOU CAN GO BACK INTO A SPOT IF THEY DON'T FIX IT.
BUT THIS SET A LOT OF STRIPES THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND THAT SOLVES HARRY PROBLEMS. YEAH.
IF, IF Y'ALL WOULD JUST CONSIDER THAT IT, IT'S EVEN WORSE IF IN A FUNERAL AND YOU'VE GOT A HEARSE PART HERE ALONG WITH LETTING OFF OF THE OLD PEOPLE GOING TO MY RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GONNA BE WIDER.
JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO WALMART OR KROGER OR WHATEVER, YOU DON'T EVER, SMART PEOPLE DON'T DRIVE ALONG THE FRONT OF THE STORE 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GO ACROSS.
SO EVERYBODY HAS THE INNATE TENDENCY TO AVOID THE FRONT ROW THAT SMART PEOPLE DO.
SO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO UP THERE TO AVOID THAT ARTIFICIALLY CREATED TIGHT SPOT.
AND THAT BACK ROW COULD EVEN BE PERPENDICULAR.
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IF YOU HAVE A TWO WAY PERPENDICULAR INSTEAD OF S THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.DO LIKE THE SAGE, IF YOU LOSE SPOTS BY DOING SLANTED.
I'VE STUDIED THIS BEFORE, BUT Y'ALL HAVE EXCESS PARKING ANYWAY MM-HMM
SO, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM IF, IF IT JUST COULD GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
JUST PUT SOMETHING WHERE LIKE IF SOMEONE COME IN PARKING LOT, MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO WANT TO TURN LEFT AND AVOID ALL THE TRAFFIC ONE THAT'S THROUGH THE PARKING.
SO JUST THAT COULD BE SIMPLY LIFTING SPACES.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S IT.
GARY, YOU WANT MAKE A MOTION THAT CAPTURES YOUR COMMENTS.
IT'S JUST THIS IS JUST THEIR, JUST A GUIDANCE FOR THEM AT THIS POINT.
WE GIVE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF THE CHAPEL WOOD UNITED METHODIST, UH, CHURCH, UH, PLANNED AMENDMENT, 300 WHEELER DRIVE, UH, WITH CONSIDERATION OF, UH, CHANGING THE ORIENTATION OF THE PARKING IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I I DO HAVE SOMETHING.
WHEN DID HE COME TO CITY OF PURVIEW TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE WAY A PARKING LOT FLOW IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? IT'S JUST BECAUSE THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN THERE ON SUNDAY KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
AND I AGREE WITH HARRY ON THIS.
SO NO, I THIS IS NOT, WE'RE NOT TELLING THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM GUIDANCE.
AND THAT TO HARRY'S DEFENSE, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A GOOD SOLUTION RIGHT THERE.
IT NEEDS TO BE, NEED TO HAVE THAT OPTION.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR.
ALRIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MM-HMM.
A OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL.
[7. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION OF CHAPELWOOD UNITED METHODIST CHURCH LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT AT 300 WILLOW]
ALRIGHT.AND THEN NEXT ONE IS THE SAME PROPERTY LANDSCAPE.
IT MAY, IT MAY NOT BE LANDSCAPING, IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT JUST FOR INTEREST, WHAT'S THE DEPTH OF THE DETENTION POND? UH, THIS, I COULDN'T READ THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE GRADING PLAN.
IS IT ON ELECTRIC? FOUR FEET, TWO AND A HALF FEET OR SO? NO FENCING IS REQUIRED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, HE'S SAYING FOUR.
IT'S LIKE 14 IS THE ELEVATION OF THE BOTTOM.
YOU'VE GOT A 1767 UP HERE PARKING LOT.
IT DRAINS TO THE, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME TREES BACK IN THERE.
IS THERE NOT ANY TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THAT BY THE DETENTION POND? NO.
WE PICKED THERE IS AT THE FAR EAST END TOWARDS THE CREEK.
UH, UH, WE CLEARED THE UNDERBRUSH OUT JUST TO SEE WHAT WE HAD AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE ANY SIZE.
IT'S ONLY 16 FOOT OR 32 FEET WIDE, SO IT'S LONG IN THERE.
THERE'S SOME TREES TO THE EAST OF IT THAT WERE NOT BOTHERING.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT.
IT'S SO THAT WE CAN GET BY WITH THAT.
UH, I'M NOT QUESTIONING IT AT ALL, BUT, UH, WE WERE DOING MCDONALD'S IN A CORNER LITTLE THING.
THEY HAD TO HAVE TWO DIMENS DETENTION PLOTS AND IT'S A LOT SMALLER.
IT'S NOT FOR THE, THEY WERE IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
SO THEY HAD TO DO FLOOD PLAY MITIGATION ALSO.
SO THIS IS GONNA WORK GOOD FOR US.
SO FOR, FOR JUST A DETENTION POND, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A THREE TO FOUR FOOT DROP OVER 16 FEET ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOUR TO ONE, IT'S MANAGEABLE.
UM, IT, IT COULD BE FLATTENED OUT.
UM, THAT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU JUST WANT IT TO BE OH, THAT UP TO RANDY.
HE DESIGNED IT, BUT THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT.
BUT IT, IT'S GONNA BE REAL EASY TO MOW.
IT COULD BE FLATTENED OUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HE, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE ON THE, ON THE SITE.
SO THERE'S ALSO, UH, AND I THINK A HAD BEEN TALKING TO RANDY CONCERNING NOT ONLY USING OR USING THAT BOND AS A, I GUESS MITIGATION TYPE DEAL, BUT ALSO HAVE SOME CONNECTION TO YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S THERE IN ORDER TO OKAY.
DO, DOES THE CHURCH HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT DRAINAGE OR DOES THE CITY DO THAT? NO, THAT'S
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UH, THE CHURCH.ALL THE
NO, IT'S NOT A DEDICATED DRAINAGE.
IF IT FLOODS THEN WE HAVE TO GO DIG OUT THE RACCOONS AND SUCH.
NO ONE HAS REALLY MADE OFFICIAL RULES ON IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THE WAY THINGS HAVE CHANGED IS WE USED TO HAVE THREE TO ONE SLOPES.
WE'VE STARTED MOVING THE FOUR TO ONE.
UM, A LOT OF PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, IF THEY HAVE TO DO WET DETENTION PONDS OR PONDS THAT ARE JUST DEEPER THAN FOUR TO FIVE FOOT DEEP, USUALLY THEY PUT FENCES AROUND THEM.
UM, TH THIS DITCH ISN'T VERY DEEP.
UM, BUT I MEAN WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT FLATTER JUST SO IT, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HAZARD.
NOBODY, SO IT'S GONNA BE A DRY DITCH AS WELL.
SO IS THIS A REASONABLE SLOPE SO THAT THEY CAN MOW IT EASE? WE CAN MOW IT EASY.
YEAH, YOU CAN GET A RIDING MOWER IN IT WITHOUT AN ISSUE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE MIGUEL? UM, WELL JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, THEY ARE GONNA BE ADDING AN IRRIGATION METER TO THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OVER HERE.
WE KNOW WE DID A LANDSCAPE PLAN BACK IN 2001 AND WITH WEATHER AND JUST A LOT OF CHANGES, WE JUST WENT AND REDID THE WHOLE TREE SURVEY ALL OVER AGAIN.
UH, THIS CHURCH GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THE TREE REQUIREMENT AND THEY GO WAY BEYOND ON THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL, IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME THAT THE, UH, PARSONAGE DRAINS TWO WILLER DRIVE AND THE REST IS CAMPUS DRAIN STARTS TO CREEK.
UM, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME RANDY AND YOU HAD SPOKE AND, BUT Y'ALL HAVE ADDRESSED FIXING SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES OUT THERE ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO.
AND THOSE LITTLE SWES RIGHT THERE THAT HE WAS SHOWING RIGHT THERE, WE ENHANCED IT, UH, SADDLE IMPROVED AND IT WAS, IT REALLY WAS JUST ENHANCING WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HUDDLE UP IN FRONT OF THE SANCTUARY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THAT WAS DONE A YEAR AGO AHEAD OF THE DOING ANY ENGINEERING WORK ON THE, ON THE PARKING LOT.
ANYTHING? NO, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ARE WE DESIGNATING PARTICULAR TREES THAT, UH, ARE THE ONES WE TAKE ACCOUNT FOR SO THAT IF ONE OF THOSE FALLS WE CAN CLAIM A DIFFERENT TREE? THAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION OR, UH, WE DOCUMENT ALL THE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND, AND WE ONLY CLAIM CERTAIN ONES.
ISN'T THAT CORRECT? OR SALE? YES.
I MEAN THEY TAKE CREDIT OR THEY, THEY HAVE TO DOCUMENT THE CREDIT TREES THERE.
TREES AND THE REST WOULD BE THE RESERVED TREES.
AND THOSE CREDIT TREES, IF THEY SO HAPPEN TO DIE OFF THROUGH THE YEARS, THEN THE CREDIT TREES WILL THEN REPLACE THOSE.
SO YES, THEY ARE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN.
MAYBE WE JUST NUMBER 'EM THE TIME.
LIKE I SAID, THEY MAKE IT WITH ONE TREE.
I FORGET ABOUT THAT ONE BEING OUT THERE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION I TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TREE THERE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CREEK WHETHER IT'S A TYPO OR NOT.
ARE YOU TRYING TO, ARE YOU TRYING TO SCORE SOME EXTRA POINTS THERE? YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CREEK.
BACK IN XAVIER GIRL SCOUTS A HUNDRED INCHES.
UH, UP IN CONROE, WE HAD ONE OF OUR SURVEY CREWS GO OUT THERE AND THEY HAD DONE A SURVEY THERE AND THEY SAID THERE WAS LIKE 102 INCH TREE AND WE HAD JUST TOLD 'EM, HEY, IS THIS RIGHT? GO CHECK IT.
WELL, THE CREW WENT OUT, THE GUY STOOD RIGHT NEXT TO IT, TOOK A PICTURE,
BUT YEAH, NO, WE, WE DON'T MIND, WE, WE WILL ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THE TREE COUNTS LIVE OAK.
THAT'S, THAT'S COMPETING WITH THE GUY OVER NORTH ROAD MATURE
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FOR A YEAR.SO THAT MEANS THE TREE'S 200 YEARS OLD.
YEAH, THAT MEANS THAT THING UNDER SOME WATER HERE IN HAR, YOU STILL NEED YOUR MOTION? HAVE A MOTION YET.
MOVE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND ACTION CHAPEL WITH UNITED METHODIST CHURCH LANDSCAPE PLAN AMENDMENT AT CREEK FIVE.
[8. UPDATE ON APPROVED PROJECTS BY PLANNERS]
IS EDDIE TIME.WE DON'T HAVE EDDIE, EDDIE IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
I'M, UH, I'M GONNA THAT UH, WE'RE GOOD.
I THINK YOU MAY BE THE THIRD BEST VERY LAST NECESSARY.
SO YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT UPDATES THAT EDDIE PREPARED? YES.
IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THEM, YOU'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WELL, NOW THAT YOU'RE ON THE SPOT, WE WANNA UPDATE ON EVERYTHING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS? NO SIR.
[9. SIGNATURE OF DOCUMENTS]
SIGNATURE DOCUMENTS.[10. SET NEXT MEETING DATE]
NEXT MEETING ANNA.IT'S GOING BE TUESDAY, JANUARY THE SIXTH.
ALL EVERYBODY CHECK YOUR SCHEDULES ON THAT.
ANNA, WERE YOU ABLE TO, ARE WE ABLE TO GET THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR THAT DATE? YES.
DID YOU ALREADY TELL, UH, GIVE THEM A HEADS UP? NO.
UH, THE CITY COUNCIL LAST NIGHT, UH, WAS APPROACHED BY MS. CROW AND SHE'S, UH, ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL, UH, CONDITIONAL, I'M SORRY, A CONDITIONAL USE IN B TWO ZONE.
UH, THEY WERE AMENABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TO THAT DISCUSSION.
AND SO THEY'RE, UH, REQUESTED STAFF TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THEN, UH, CONSIDER THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA SET THAT DATE ON YOUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY FOR MS. CROW WHERE, UH, AND THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR A SCHOOL IN A B TWO ZONE, UH, WHERE CHURCHES ARE ALLOWED AS CONDITIONAL USE.
UH, SHE CURRENTLY IS IN DOWNTOWN AND IT'S A AUTISTIC, UH, SHE WANTS TO DO A SCHOOL FOR, I KNOW YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, AUTISTIC STUDENTS.
UH, BUT THEY WERE, UH, AMENABLE TO THE IDEA.
BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS FOR YOU TO BEGIN ACCEPTING, UH, COMMENTS AND CONSIDERATION AND THEN PASSING YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON BACK TO THEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
I DOUBT THAT'LL BE A MCDONALD'S TURNOUT.