[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
[00:00:02]
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING.UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE, UH, TUESDAY, JANUARY 20TH, 26TH, UH, REGULAR SESSION OF THE LAKE JACKSON CITY COUNCIL, BEING HELD AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS.
UH, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING, AND, UM, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILWOMAN SET.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND FOR ONE NATION.
WHAT ABOUT ONE LIBERTY? JUSTICE FOR HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG, TEXAS.
UH, INVOCATION WILL BE, UH, LED BY COUNCILMAN BUELL.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THIS EVENING.
AND AS OUR MEETING CONTINUES AND DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US THE THREE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT WE FEEL ARE IN BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT OF OUR CITY.
BE WITH OUR EMT FOLKS, OUR FIRE AND POLICE PERSONNEL, AS WELL AS OUR MEN AND WOMEN, OUR ARMED FORCES.
BE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AS WE HEAD HOME.
[1. Recognizing Henry Mendez for 50 years of dedicated service as a Volunteer Firefighter with the Lake Jackson Volunteer Fire Department.]
UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS.THE FIRST ONE WILL BE, UH, RECOGNIZING HENRY MENDEZ FOR HIS 50 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AS A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER IN LAKE JACKSON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO, AS YOU JUST HEARD, THIS IS MR. HENRY MENDEZ, WHO JOINED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN DECEMBER OF 1975.
AND WHILE WE HONORED HIM AT OUR BANQUET THIS YEAR WITH MANY OF YOU PRESENT, WE THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HONOR HIM IN PUBLIC, UH, SO WE CAN ALL SEE THAT WE DID SHOWER HIM WITH LOVELY GIFTS.
BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE TRINKET, SIR, FOR 50 YEARS OF SERVICE.
THEY ALSO GAVE HIM THE BELT OFF THE FIRETRUCK, THE, UH, SPIRIT, WHAT IS IT? ENGINE 86.
THE TEXAS FLAG TRUCK IS COMMISSIONED BEING COMMISSIONED IT.
SO, UH, MR. MENDEZ IS GETTING THE BILL, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
UH, WE ALSO PRESENTED HIM WITH A PROCLAMATION, AND, UH, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THAT FOR YOU.
UH, I, GERALD ROSKI, UH, BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY HONOR HENRY MENDEZ.
WHEREAS HENRY MENDEZ HAS BEEN A FIREFIGHTER, VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER SINCE JOINING THE LAKE JACKSON FIRE DEPARTMENT IN DECEMBER OF 1975, SERVING FOR 50 YEARS AND COUNTING.
AND WHEREAS HENRY HAS HELD THE TITLE OF TRAINING OFFICER, CAPTAIN ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, AS WELL AS VOLUNTEER FIRE PARLIAMENTARIAN FOR 25 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS HENRY HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER, PROTECTING THE LIVES, FAMILIES, AND ECONOMIC LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE, UH, THREAT OF DESTRUCTIVE FIRE AND OTHER EMERGENCIES, OFTEN AT GREAT PERSONAL SACRIFICE.
WHEREAS HENRY HAS HELPED ESTABLISH THE EMS PROGRAM AS PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WENT INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WENT INTO FIRE AND EMS SERVICES SEPARATED IN 1999.
HENRY WAS A VOLUNTEER FIRE VOLUNTEER EMS MEMBER FROM 99 TO 2019.
AND WHEREAS THROUGH FIREFIGHTER HENRY'S LEADERSHIP COMMITMENT, HARD WORK, AND COUNTLESS HOURS OF SERVICE, AS WELL AS HIS PASSION FOR TRAINING FOR THE DEPARTMENT, THE LAKE JACKSON VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HONORED TO NAME THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING ROOM FOR, UH, HENRY MENDEZ.
NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY OF LAKE JACKSON TO HEREBY HONOR HENRY MENDEZ AND THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS, EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR HIS VER UH, VITAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THESE PAST 50 YEARS.
THANK, HERE, COUNCIL, GATHER UP BEHIND US.
[00:05:05]
AND ONE OTHER THING.YOU SERVED ON COUNCIL ALSO FOUR FOR HOW MANY YEARS? FOUR YEARS.
SO HE, HE'S, HE SPREAD HIS, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND CHEER AND EVERYTHING ALL ACROSS THE CITY AND STUFF.
AND, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING FIRST BEFORE ISRAEL WAS STILL HERE AND, UM, FORGOT ALL THAT.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT LATE, UH, SUE, BEING A FORMER 82ND NETWORK DIVISION MEDIC, I COULDN'T DO WHAT I DID IN THERE ON THE OUTSIDE.
YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AFTER THE FIRST THING I DID WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST CALL ON THE AMBULANCE, WE TRY AND GET THIS GUY INTUBATED AND GET HIM, I RESTARTED.
AND, AND, AND HE HAD TO, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
I SAID, YES, I'M WHY WE CERTIFIED.
ANYWAY, I ENDED UP BEING CERTIFIED AND WE DID EMS. UH, I WAS GLAD BECAUSE I DID GET MY EMS AND I GOT MY INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATION FROM THE STATE AND ALSO AN EXAMINER FROM THE STATE.
AND WE WERE THE FIRST IN THE COUNTY TO OFFER EMS CLASSES TO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO IN THE FIRE SERVICE IN THE COUNTY.
WE WERE DOING OUR EMS, UH, AT THE OLD STATION, WHICH IS NOT A WORK, WORK NOW.
WE DID ALL OF IT AND WE DIDN'T CHARGE ANYBODY ANYTHING BECAUSE BY THE BOOK.
AND WE GET TO TRAINING, WE DID, AND WE DID THAT FOR MANY YEARS UNTIL I GET THE, UH, UPPER EDUCATION LEVEL AT THE COLLEGE UNIVERSITY DECIDED, HEY, THERE'S MONEY IN THERE, WE WANT IT.
SO THEY, THE FISHING STATE, AND THEY GOT IN FOR, YOU CAN'T HAVE A CLASS UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH THE COLLEGE FOR A COLLEGE.
SO, UH, THEY DID AWAY WITH THAT STUFF, BUT WE DID, WE DID IT QUITE A BIT.
WE DID THE FIRST PARAMEDIC CLASS IN THE AREA, AND WE DID IT HERE AT THE COLLEGE AND ALL THAT.
AND IT, IT'S GROWN QUITE A BIT, QUITE A BIT, A LOT OF STUFF, ESPECIALLY EVEN WITH A FIRE.
NOW, YOU GOTTA GET CERTIFIED NOW YOU GOTTA GET TESTED, NOW YOU GOTTA GET ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
BUT IT IS GOOD BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN PROVE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND, UH, IT IS ALREADY, I ENJOYED IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT THING THAT I TELL EVERY COOK ALL THE TIME IS WHENEVER I MEET WITH OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND NOW AS A MAYOR, IS THAT I'M VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO STATE, WE HAVE A VOLUNT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD A ON DEPARTMENT FOR SO LONG, AND THEN WE HAVE GENTLEMEN LIKE HENRY HERE THAT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED AND HAS BROUGHT ON DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO MAKE OUR VOLUNTARY FIRE DEPARTMENT, I THINK, A STANDARD AND FOR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO, TO, TO COME TO MEET UP TO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE VOLUNTARY DEPARTMENTS, THEY, THEY HAVE CHALLENGES, EQUIPMENT CHALLENGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL AND A COMMUNITY THAT CONTINUES TO SUPPORT AND SEES THE VALUE OF SUPPORTING Y'ALL WITH SOME OF THE BEST EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOT SOME EQUIPMENT THAT SOME PAID FIRE DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE, AND, UH, KEEPS US IN THE IDEAS FOR, TO KEEP YOU GUYS SAFE AND, UH, KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE.
ONE IS TO GET THE EQUIPMENT, THE OTHER ONE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TRAINED PROPERLY TO USE OUR EQUIPMENT AND GOES HAND IN HAND.
[2. Proclamation - Acknowledgment of TBT Real Estate's contributions to Santa Tours.]
OKAY.UH, THE NEXT ONE IS A PROCLAMATION.
YOUR ACKNOWLEDGING, UH, TBT, UH, REAL ESTATE CONTRIBUTION FOR THE SANTA TOOLS BE.
WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT.
ONE THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE SANTA TOURS.
GIMME SOME HISTORY ON THE SANTA TOURS, HOW THAT GOT STARTED.
AND THAT WAS DURING THE, THE BAD YEARS OF COVID AND WE WEREN'T GONNA DO THE PARADE AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
SO EVERYBODY, MOST PEOPLE WERE UPSET THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND SO I HAD A, UH, A PAST COUNCILMAN, UH, GAVE ME A CALL AND HE SAID, HE SENT ME A TEXT.
HE SAID, THIS COMMUNITY IS DOING THIS SANTA CLAUSE THROUGH TOWN, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO? WELL, THAT WAS ON A WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY, IT WAS CLOSE.
AND THEN ON WEDNESDAY, I WENT TO STAFF AND I SAID, IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN DO? AND BY FRIDAY, WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WITH STAFF, THEY ALREADY HAD A PLAN IN PLACE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND SO IT TAKES A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MAKE SOMETHING SPECIAL LIKE THIS.
AND THE TOUR HAS BECOME SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS SPREAD TO OTHER CITIES.
AND, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, OUR COMMUNITY REALLY ENJOYS.
WE WISH WE COULD DRIVE DOWN EVERY STREET, BUT WE PHYSICALLY CAN'T DRIVE DOWN EVERY STREET
AND, UH, IT CONTINUES TO GET BETTER AND BETTER EACH YEAR.
[00:10:01]
THAT IS THIS YEAR, UH, TAMMY BELL WITH HER COMPANY, THEY PROVIDED THE USE OF THEIR TRAILER THAT THEY USED FOR THE PARADE FOR SANTA.SO THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR.
SO THIS IS, UH, I, GERALD ROSKI, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY INVESTED IN ME, THAT'S MAYOR OF CITY LAKE JACKSON, YOU HEREBY PROPAY JANUARY 20TH, 2026 AS TBT REAL ESTATE DAY IN THE STATE OF LAKE JACKSON, WHERE THE STATE OF LAKE JACKSON RECOGNIZES THAT COMMUNITY EVENTS WERE MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE GENEROSITY AND CORPORATION OF RESIDENTS AND PARTNERS, UH, WHO WILLINGLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR TIME AND RESOURCES.
WHEREAS TAMMY BELL AND THE, THE BROKER OF TVT REAL ESTATE GENERAL GENERALLY PROVIDED THE USE OF THEIR PRIVATELY OWNED TRAILER FOR THE STANDARD TOURS HELD ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 19TH, WHICH CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS, SUCCESSFUL PLANNING AND EXECUTION OF THIS PUBLIC EVENT.
AND WHEREAS THIS CONTRIBUTION ENHANCED THE CITY'S ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND BRING SANTA TO OUR RESIDENTS DURING THE LIGHT OF LAKE JACKSON EVENTS, WHEREAS SUCH CIVIC-MINDED SUPPORT REFLECTS A STRONG COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY, SPIRIT, CORPORATION, AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
NOW, THEREFORE, THE APRIL PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY LAKES ACTION DOES HEREBY, HEREBY EXPRESSED ITS SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO TAMMY BELL AND TBT REAL ESTATE FOR THE GENERAL GENEROUS USE OF THEIR TRAILER IN SUPPORT OF THE PUBLIC CITY OF, AND THAT WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY OF COUNCIL OF CITY LAKE ACTION HEREBY PROCLAIMED JANUARY 20TH, 2020 26.
THAT'S TBT REAL ESTATE DAY IN THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.
WHERE'D MY, DID YOU GOT MY AGENDA? YES, YOU GOT AN AGE COPY OF IT.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, VISITORS COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT, THERE'S NO ONE THAT'S SIGNED UP FOR VISITORS COMMENTS? IS ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH COUNSEL ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
WE'LL DO A DECLARATION OF NEXT ITEM IS DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL TO DECLARE IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERNING ANY ITEM ON EITHER AGENDA, CONSENT AGENDA, OR REGULAR AGENDA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UH, NEED TO DECLARE CONFLICT THAT
[CONSENT AGENDA]
HEARING? SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.IS THERE ANY MEMBER ON CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION NOT HEARING? SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MOVE FOR APPROVAL, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE THROUGH SIX.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MULE.
[1. Public hearing to amend Ch. 110 Zoning to allow education as a conditional use permit in the B-2 (Central Business) Zone. - Modesto Mundo]
ALL RIGHT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR AGENDA.
FIRST ITEM IS GONNA BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO LEMME CALL IS SENT TO PUBLIC HEARING AT WHAT TIME IS IT? 6 46.
WE'LL BEGIN A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, TO AMEND, UH, CHAPTER, UH, ONE 10 ZONING TO ALLOW EDUCATION AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE B TWO ZONE.
UM, THIS IS A REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVE TO, UM, ADD OR CHANGE, UM, THE B TWO ZONE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY YOU THINK OF, UH, DOWNTOWN, BUT IT SPILLS OVER ONTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY AS WELL, UM, TO ALLOW AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
EDUCATION RIGHT NOW IS IN THE B THREE ZONE, UH, WHICH IS AN INSTITUTIONAL ZONE.
UH, SO EDUCATION AND CHURCHES.
SO CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS ARE IN THE B THREE, UH, ZONE.
AND THE B TWO, IT'S PRIMARILY DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS, UH, DISTRICT AND BUSINESSES.
BUT WE DO HAVE AS A CONDITIONAL USE, UH, IN THERE FOR CHURCHES.
SO CHURCHES ARE CONSIDERED A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT EDUCATION'S NEVER BEEN, UH, UM, HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT UP AS A CONDITIONAL, UH, AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
[00:15:01]
WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST TO, UH, PUT A SCHOOL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND STAFF ADVISED THAT, UH, IF APPROPRIATE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE MAY BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE, UH, THING TO PUT IN.'CAUSE IT WOULD ALLOW YOU LEEWAY TO DECIDE IF, UH, YOU WERE GOING TO PUT A SCHOOL IN.
YOU COULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THERE ENOUGH ADEQUATE PARKING, UH, OR THE HOURS.
THOSE ARE ITEMS WHERE, UH, THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER.
AND ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF DOWNTOWN IS CONSIDERED EQUALLY.
THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES THAT DO HAVE PRIVATE PARKING, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF DOWNTOWN WHERE IT'S ALL PUBLIC PARKING, AND THERE'S MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE.
SO, UH, THE EXAMPLE I HAD ALWAYS GIVEN, UM, UH, WE HAVE ONE REQUEST TONIGHT THAT, UH, IS LEADING THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION, UH, WHERE THEY DO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, UM, IN THEIR, UH, PRIVATE PARKING, IN THEIR SHOPPING AREA.
BUT IF THE COLLEGE HAD COME TO YOU AND ASKED IF THEY WANTED TO PURCHASE THE OLD MOVIE THEATER, THERE'S NO PRIVATE PARKING, IT'S ALL PUBLIC PARKING, THAT COULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
NOT TO SAY THAT IT COULDN'T, UH, ACCOMMODATE 'CAUSE IT COULD BE HOURS.
THEY MAY WANNA DO NIGHTTIME HOURS AND STUFF, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT CONVERSATION REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
IT CAN BETTER HAPPEN IN A CONDITIONAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HAVE THEIR PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR REQUEST, AND THEY'VE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, ALONG, UM, WITH THAT THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, FAVORABLY AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
UH, TIFFANY, DO YOU WANNA STATE, MAKE A STATEMENT OR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO SAY YOUR, SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO.
UM, SO I, DO I NEED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN? I MESSED UP ON THIS TIFFANY CROW, TTE 1 0 5, FORAL, PHIL JACKSON.
UM, I, AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, MET WITH BOTH GROUPS AND, UM, I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL MOVE FORWARD AS A CONDITIONAL USE AND THEN REALLY GET INTO THOSE CONDITIONS.
SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE ABOUT THIS, UH, REQUEST? CAN THIS PUBLIC HEARING COUNSEL? NO, SIR.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT WHAT TIME Y'ALL GOT.
[2. Approve the first reading of an ordinance amending Ch. 110 Zoning to allow education as a conditional use permit in the B-2 (Central Business) Zone. – Sherri Russell]
SESSION AND WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM TWO.UH, APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING, UH, CHAPTER, UH, ONE 10 ZONING TO ALLOW EDUCATION AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND B TWO CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONE.
SO, SHERRY, YOU'VE GOT FIRST READ DOCUMENT.
SO I ADDED TWO WORDS TO THIS ORDINANCE.
DID WE PAY, DID WE PAY BY THE WORD
MAYBE BY THE SYLLABLE AND EDUCATION.
THAT'S, THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED.
UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS IS, THIS WILL COME BEFORE PLANNERS.
IT DOESN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL, AND THEY'LL STUDY IT AND, AND DECIDE WHAT CONDITIONS THEY WANNA PUT ON THE USE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO, SIR.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON, UH, THIS, THIS ITEM.
MAYOR, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE AMENDING CHAPTER ONE 10 ZONING TO ALLOW EDUCATION AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE B TWO CENTRAL BUSINESS ZONE.
MAYOR, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? UH, YES, SIR.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE IN AMENDING CHAPTER ONE 10 ZONING OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO AMEND B TWO CENTRAL BUSINESS TO ALLOW EDUCATION AS A CONDITIONAL USE, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES ARE PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH SHALL BE REPEALED TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONFLICT ONLY, AND PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE.
OKAY, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND WE'VE, UH, HAD A READING OF THE ORDINANCE, AND I'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
WE'LL HAVE A SECOND READING, UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
[3. Discuss the request to add a charitable bingo hall as a permitted use within the zoning ordinance. – Jordan Terry]
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM THREE, DISCUSS THE REQUEST TO ADD A CHARITABLE BINGO HALL AS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE ZONE ORDINANCE, ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, AND MODESTO, YOU WANNA START US OUT ON THIS OR, UH, YES.UH, I, WE, UM, THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM A MR. TERRY, UH, ASKING, UH, LOOKING AT THE, A OLD HEB, WHAT I, WHAT I CALL THE OLD HEB SITE, WHICH IS A B ONE IS IN A B ONE ZONE, UH, TO ALLOW OR TO PERMIT, UH, UH, BINGO.
[00:20:01]
HE IS HERE TONIGHT TO, TO MAKE THAT, UH, REQUEST.UH, THE ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WILL HIGHLIGHT FOR THE AUDIENCE IS, IS THAT IF THERE IS A, UH, YOU KNOW, A ZONING CHANGE THAT IT'S INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS PROPERTY, IT'S AL IT'S FOR THE WHOLE ZONE.
AND SO, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE, WE CAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MAP TONIGHT, UH, BUT IF IT DOES PROGRESS, THEN WE'LL SHOW YOU ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALSO ZONED FOR B ONE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE, YOU'RE ALLOWING IN THAT ZONE AND NOT JUST THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
WHERE'S THE OAEB? THE, UH, IS THAT THE CORNER OF PLANTATION? PLANTATION? DIXIE, DIXIE PLANT.
AND YEAH, A LOT OF B ONE ALONG PLANTATION DRIVE IS B ONE.
UH, YOU KNOW, MOST RECENTLY, B ONE PROPERTY THAT'S WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE CORNER OF NORTH YON, AND 2004 IS B ONE PROPERTY ALSO.
SO AGAIN, A DECISION ON THIS AT THIS REQUEST FOR CHANGE TO THE ZONING WOULD IMPACT ANY OTHER, LIKE MODESTO SAID, ANY OTHER B ONE AREAS, UNLESS THE COUNCIL WANTED TO.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, B ONE HAS A CONDITIONAL, UH, SECTION IN IT, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY AS WELL IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE FUTURE TYPES OF USES THAT YOU WANT TO LABEL AS AS CONDITIONAL? BUT I DON'T KNOW IF B ONE HAS A, THEY ALL HAVE CONDITIONAL, CONDITIONAL COMPONENT.
YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO SEND A MAP WHERE, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT READY FOR, UH, TONIGHT WE WERE GONNA SHOW THAT, UH, TO YOU THE LOCATION, WHAT WAS THAT, A MAP SHOWING ALL THE B ONE ZONES? WELL, WE HAVE, UH, BUT I THOUGHT TONIGHT WOULD FIRST IS LIKE, UM, LETTING MR. RESIDENT, MR. TERRY, YOU KNOW, UH, ACTUALLY MAKING HIS FORMAL REQUEST TO COUNSEL FOR YOU TO, TO DISCUSS.
IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.
JORDAN TERRY, I LIVE AT 1 2 4 0 SECOND STREET, BLUE TEXAS.
IT'S ONE OF MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
YOUR PROPOSAL OR YOUR REQUEST? SURE.
ALONGSIDE WITH ME IS MY WIFE, CASSIE TERRY, AND MY DAUGHTER NATALIE.
AND, UM, WE ARE REACHING OUT TO PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE BELIEVE CAN STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
CASSIE AND I HAVE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN CHARITY WORK SINCE 2010, AND WE HAVE SERVED FAMILIES AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS OUR REGION, UH, MAINLY IN MISSOURI COUNTY.
UH, WE HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE GROWTH, UH, NEEDS THAT HAVE OFTEN BEEN UNMET.
SO, UH, WE HAVE BEEN BRAINSTORMING AND KIND OF COMING UP WITH WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS A, A FULLY CHARITABLE, UH, BINGO HALL WHERE, UH, THE PROCEEDS ARE REGULATED AND GO TO THOSE CHARITABLE EVENTS THAT QUALIFY, BASICALLY IS THE RUNDOWN ON THAT.
UM, SO, BUT AS A, AS A RESIDENT OF OUR COUNTY, THAT THAT CARES ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING, LIKE I HAD SAID, WE IN WAYS TO BLESS OUR COMMUNITY.
WE GIVE A LOT OF OUR TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS GONNA BE A GOOD WAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT IN THAT WAY.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UH, YOUR DRAW? I MEAN, WHERE WOULD YOU, FOR YOUR, YOUR BINGO FACILITY, WHAT ARE, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA DRAW YOUR, UH, PATRONS FROM? IN REGARDS TO WHAT? I'M SORRY.
AS IN WHERE? SOUTHERN MISSOURI COUNTY, OR IT'S, HOW FAR DO YOU THINK A A, AN OPERATION LIKE THIS WOULD REACH? SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN BINGO HALL.
MY WIFE DOES, SHE ACTUALLY, UM, WORKS ON BEHALF WITH, UH, WITH CHARITABLE BINGO THAT'S, THAT'S IN OUR COUNTY.
AND WE SEE PEOPLE AS FAR AS HOUSTON THAT COMES IN AND PARTICIPATES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
BUT WE DO SEE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM HOUSTON.
ARE YOU BUYING OR LEASING THAT BUILDING? UH, WE'RE GONNA BE LEASING THAT BUILDING.
WHAT ARE, WHAT KIND OF HOURS ARE YOU TALK, TALKING ABOUT? WHAT KIND OF HOURS ARE WE GONNA OPERATE ON? YEP.
SHE KNOWS MORE OF THE DETAILS ABOUT.
UM, MY NAME IS CASSIE TERRY, AND, UM, IT'LL BE AN EVENING BINGO.
UM, SOMETIMES WE COULD ALSO DO, RIGHT NOW WE DO LIKE A SPECIAL NEEDS BINGO OR SENIOR BINGO AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT IT'D BE AN EVENING BINGO.
RIGHT NOW IT'S, UM, THE HOURS THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW IS FIVE TO 10 IS HOURS IN THE EVENING.
HOW, HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK? UM, SO WE WOULD LIKE, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT LEAST FIVE, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
SO THE CHARITIES GET THREE SESSIONS.
SO WE'RE, WE CAN MAXIMIZE TO FIVE DIFFERENT CHARITIES.
AND IF WE GET FIVE DIFFERENT CHARITIES, WE CAN DO ALL SEVEN DAYS.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS HOW MANY CHARITIES WE CAN GET.
AND WITH THE CHARITIES, THEY ALSO HAVE
[00:25:01]
TO GO THROUGH THE TEXAS LICENSING DEPARTMENT.THEY HAVE TO BE A, A QUALIFIED 5 0 1 C THAT HAS BEEN ACTIVE FOR THREE YEARS.
SO THERE'S A VETTING PROCESS FOR THE CHARITIES AS WELL.
ARE THERE A BUNCH OF THOSE AVE AVAILABLE? YES, SIR.
A AS OF RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD, UH, WE, WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT WORK WITH THE LOTTERY COMMISSION, UH, THAT ARE NEUTRAL, THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE DI DEEP, UH, ING OF FUNDS, HANDLING OF FUNDS.
MYSELF, I CAN'T PERSONALLY HANDLE IT.
IT HAS TO BE FROM A, FROM A, UM, A PERSON OF NON-INTEREST.
I ADVISE VERY, YEAH, VERY SPECIFIC UNDER, UH, CHAPTER 2 0 1.
BUT TO GET TO THAT, UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE ARE ENTITIES THAT ARE ON STANDBY WAITING TO BE A A PART OF THAT.
Y'ALL GET A CERTAIN PERCENT THEN YOU DONATE THE REST? NO.
SO, UH, WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE BINGO MONEY AT ALL.
IT ACTUALLY IS A NON-BIASED PARTY THAT IS THE, THEY ARE LIKE THE MIDDLE PERSON BETWEEN THE CHARITIES AND THE LICENSING.
THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING.
WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS AT ALL.
BUT YOU'LL GET PAID FROM THOSE.
WE WILL GET PAID WE'LL, BUT AF AT THE VERY END AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST FOR RENT AND THAT'S IT.
THERE, THERE IS CASH FLOW FOR RENT PURPOSES AND, UH, OUR TIME.
BUT WE WOULD, UH, BECOME A MEMBER, UH, AND OPERATE AS A, OR SHE WOULD AS A EMPLOYEE.
OH, YOU'RE RUNNING ANY BINGO HALLS NOW? UM, I WORK AT, IN THE ANGLETON ONE.
WE CURRENTLY DO NOT, DO NOT RUN ONE PERSONALLY UNDER, UNDER OUR LICENSE.
WHAT'S YOUR VOLUME AT THE ONE IN ENGLETON? UH, WELL, THIS SATURDAY ON A TYPICAL, YEAH, THIS SATURDAY WE HAD ABOUT 90 PEOPLE THIS PAST SATURDAY.
IT JUST VARIES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY TO DO LIKE, UM, DIFFERENT EVENTS.
LIKE THIS PAST WEEKEND WAS BIRTHDAYS, SO EVERYONE THAT HAD A JANUARY BIRTHDAY CAME IN AND WE CELEBRATED THEM.
WE'LL HAVE CUSTOMER APPRECIATION DAYS THIS THURSDAY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING SPECIAL NEEDS AND, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS WHEN THEY COME IN ON THURSDAY.
IT'S LIKE ALL OF THE, THE, THE CLUBS, LIKE THE SPECIAL NEEDS CLUBS AND REHABS, THE SCHOOLS, DIFFERENT CLINICS WILL COME IN AND IT'S COMPLETELY FREE FOR THEM TO PLAY BINGO.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER AVENUE FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING DURING THE DAY.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE HAD AS MANY AS 150 PEOPLE COME FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU USE YOUR AVERAGES? UM, FOR? I MEAN, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM, ON THE, ON THE SLOW DAYS WE HAVE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE.
AND THEN ON OUR BUSY NIGHTS WE COULD HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED.
HOW MUCH IS A CARD? UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE $10 PER SESSION AND THEN YOU HAVE COMPUTERS AS WELL.
YOU SELL DIFFERENT CODE PACKETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PACKETS OF CARDS.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME THE HOW PROCESS THIS, HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS? SO CAN YOU DESCRIBE ME FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END AND SEE HOW, HOW DO, WHAT DID IT TAKES TO SET IT UP AND HOW DOES IT OPERATE AND HOW DOES THE FURNITURE DISTRIBUTED? UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH, SO IT'S LIKE A BOOKKEEPER, IT'S A SERVICE.
IT'S A SERVICE THAT IS LIKE THE MEDIATOR KIND OF BETWEEN THE CHARITIES AND THE, UM, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING.
AND SHE, THIS COMPANY ALSO, THEY ARE, THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS AND EVERYTHING.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL FIVE CHARITIES HAVE THEIR HANDS INSIDE OF THE BINGO ACCOUNT, THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT'S ASSIGNED TO IT, AND THEN THEY DIVVY OUT THE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
SO, UM, SO OUR NEXT STEP IS IF, IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS SPOT, THEN UH, WE WOULD MEET WITH HER AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA MEET WITH HER THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY ANYWAY, JUST TO LIKE GET EVERYTHING DOWN.
SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT CHARITIES WE'RE INTERESTED IN, AND THEN SHE STARTS THE PROCESS WITH THE CHARITIES.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BACK AND FORTH.
THEY NEED, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE VETTED, THAT THEY'RE GOOD, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVE FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS, AND THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT PAPERWORK THAT THEY HAVE TO SEND INTO HER TO SEE IF THEY QUALIFY TO BE ONE OF OUR CHARITIES.
SHE DOES ALL THE INVESTIGATING.
YES, SHE DOES ALL THE INVESTIGATING, ALL THE VETTING, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
UM, SHE DOES ALL THE FORMS, ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL OF THAT FOR US.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S STRICT RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ABIDE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LEGALLY CONDUCT OURSELF.
AND SHE'S THAT MEDIATOR TO KIND OF HELP SEE THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THE PAPERWORK, THROUGH THE VETTING, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, HANDS ON AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
Y'ALL H HIRE PEOPLE TO HELP Y'ALL BINGO DAYS OR NIGHTS OR, OR WHATEVER? YES, SIR.
THERE, UM, WE COULD HAVE, UH, VOLUNTEERS COME IN OR YOU GET A BADGE THROUGH THE TEXAS LOTTERY COMMISSION WHERE THIS LAST QUARTER IT CHANGED TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF DEPARTMENT AND LICENSING.
HOW LONG OF A LEASE ARE Y'ALL LOOKING AT? UM, I THINK IT'S THREE TO FIVE.
SO WE, WE WOULD WORK THAT OUT WITH THE, THE OWNER OF THE SPACE, UH, I BELIEVE, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT LONG TERM, NOT SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
OH, IT HADN'T BEEN RENTED IN A LONG TIME, HAS IT? OH, IT'S A SPOT RIGHT NEXT TO HEBI THINK IT WAS A CLUB OR SOMETHING FOR THAT'S WHERE THE, THE HEB FACILITY WHERE Y'ALL GOING? IT? YES.
NO, NO, IT'S NEXT DOOR TO THE, TO THE HEB.
THE OLD, IT'S THE, NOT THE HEB BILL.
IT'S ROUGHLY WHERE THE MARTINI GLASS.
[00:30:01]
YES, SIR.WHAT ELSE SECURITY DO YOU PROVIDE? UH, YOU HIRE THE SECURITY, LOCAL SECURITY OR YOU YES, SIR.
WE, WE WOULD HIRE THE SECURITY ON THOSE NIGHTS.
UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD MANAGE THAT, UH, COMPLETELY IN HOUSE.
WE PAY THE SECURITY GUARDS THROUGH, THROUGH OUR OWN BUDGETS.
UH, THEN WE WOULD DO CONSTANT MONITORING THROUGH CAMERAS.
UH, THERE'S, ANYTIME THERE'S MONEY EXCHANGE OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINES, WE TRY TO ROLL OUT ANY POTENTIAL, UH, SCAMS OR ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN BECAUSE WE ARE SO HEAVILY REGULATED, NOT JUST FROM WORKERS, BUT THE PEOPLE AND HOW THAT IS, HOW THAT INTERCHANGES.
SO CONSTANT MONITORING, UM, RECORDING AND PERSONNEL ON THE FLOOR.
SO ARE YOU SERVING ANY FOOD OR BEVERAGES? SO SNACK BAR TO START, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY JUST BE SNACK BAR STUFF, POPCORN, NACHOS, UH, NO, NO ALCOHOL AT THIS TIME.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF QUICK QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR OPERATION.
BUT LET ME BACK US UP AND, AND THE, THE PURPOSE HERE IS TO MEET, IS TO HAVE, UH, HAVE ENOUGH CONVERSATION TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF COUNCIL IS IN SUPPORT OF MAKING THE CHANGE TO B ONE ZONING OVERALL FOR THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON.
AND IT GOES BACK TO THE PURPOSE OF A B ONE ZONE IS, IS IT'S FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES.
IT'S FOR BUSINESSES THAT MEET THEIR, MEET THE NEEDS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S, I I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD SEE IF WE CAN CROSS THAT HURDLE OR SEE IF THAT'S, THAT IS A, A, A RESTRICTION FOR US IS THAT OF HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? IS THIS A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS? DOES IT GENERATE, DOES IT BRING, UH, DOES IT SUPPORT THE, THE, THE, THE, THE LOCAL, THE, THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IT'S WITHIN? BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS THE CITY, UH, IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA TALK ABOUT.
SO, UM, WE ARE WANTING TO DO LOCAL CHARITIES.
SO THE CHARITIES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, LIKE THE FOOD PANTRIES, THE BACKPACK BUDDIES IN THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE BE COUNTY DREAM CENTER, AND I WAS THEIR BACKPACK BUDDY COORDINATOR.
SO I SAW A LOT OF HERT AND THE NEED IN THE BACKPACK BUDDY SYSTEM AS IT WAS.
BUT, UM, HOW I FEEL LIKE THE BINGO HALL WILL HELP THE COMMUNITIES.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT A SERVICE LIKE A DENTIST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA HELP CHARITIES THAT HELP OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO LIKE SOME OF THE CHARITIES THAT WE HAVE IN MIND IS LIKE THE DREAM CENTER, WHEREAS SPORT CARRIERS, MILITARY MOMS AND WIVES, SPCA, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A NEW BIRTH CENTER.
YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH THE CHARITIES THAT REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA BACK UP AND UNDERSTAND IS YOU'RE BRINGING ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT A BINGO FACILITY COULD BE.
AND IF WE OPEN IT UP TO BINGO FACILITIES ANYWHERE THAT'S A B ONE, IT COULD BE SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND THEY DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE'VE OPENED THE DOOR UP FOR 'EM SO THAT THEY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD ALLOW BINGO FACILITIES TO COME IN TO THE B ONE AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED, YOU'VE HEARD US MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT CONDITIONAL USE.
AND SO IF WE WENT DOWN THAT ROAD OF CONDITIONAL USE, WE COULD PUT CONDITIONS ON, ON, UH, AGAIN, WHAT IF A BINGO FACILITY IS COMING IN, IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA, RIGHT? SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS LET'S JUST ALLOW US TO, TO MAKE THIS CHANGE AND IT'S GONNA IMPACT ALL AREAS.
WELL, ANY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY TYPE OF BINGO HALL, THEY DO HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE RULES.
IT HAS TO BE LOCAL, IT HAS TO BE CHARITIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWER AND WE, WE ARE OPEN TO, UH, THE CONDITION THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF CHANGING ALL RULES FOR EVERYONE WOULD BE NECESSARILY THE BEST PATH.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, BUT, UH, IN, IN A SIMPLE FORM, ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A SAFE PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO COME.
AND ENJOY BEING A, THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD TELL YOU, THAT ANYBODY WHO'S COME, LIKE MS. CROW ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL USE, IT'S NOT A ONE DECISION, LIKE ONE VOTE DECISION.
SO IT, IT'S BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN, WELL, EVEN CHANGES, THE ZONING JUST CHANGES.
THE ZONING ITSELF IS, IS BACK AND FORTH.
THE CHALLENGE WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS BECAUSE OF THE MOST RECENT IN SITUATION TO INVOLVE A B ONE IS, WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT WAS, IS THAT IN THE PAST WITH THAT, WHENEVER WE'VE HAD A ZONING REQUEST LIKE THIS, WE WOULD JUST NOTIFY, LIKE FOR YOUR CASE HERE, WE WOULD NOTIFY THE PEOPLE WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF THAT FACILITY.
AND THE REASON BEING IS, IS BECAUSE IT'S, WE'RE, WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S, YOU'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CHANGING THE ZONING FOR A B ONE.
AND SO TRUTHFULLY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A CHANGE TO A B ONE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE B ONE MAP AND DO THE SAME
[00:35:01]
RADIUS AND COMMUNICATE TO THE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S IN THOSE OTHER B ONES AND SAY, OKAY, COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF ALLOWING BINGO FACILITIES IN B ONE, WHICH WOULD IMPACT YOU.AND THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.
I GUARANTEE IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE ON 2004 NORTH Y POND.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE MIGHT BE THE BEST ROUTE FOR YOU TO GO.
UH, BUT WE, UH, WE'VE GOTTA CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE USED TO DO ZONING CHANGES.
BECAUSE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT, UH, THE OTHER SITUATION WAS, WAS A WHILE BACK WE MADE A CHANGE IN B ONES TO ALLOW, UH, UH, FOOD TRUCK, UH, FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, WHAT IS IT CALLED? FOOD TRUCK COURT COURT.
AND IF FOR B ONES, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT PLANTATION DRIVE, BUT THERE'S OTHER B ONES, AGAIN, EXAMPLE BEING NORTH JO POND AND 2004.
AND WE MADE THAT CHANGE, BUT THAT IMPACTED THEM ALSO.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD'VE COME BACK AND SAID, WE'RE NOT IN, IN, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T WANT THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S, I, I, I THINK YOU SHOULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT FLOATS WITH COUNCIL.
SO, AND REALLY THIS IS THE FIRST CONVERSATION, UH, THAT IS JUST, IT'S KIND OF AN EXPLORATORY WITH COUNCIL JUST TO SEE WE'RE STAFF HAD, YOU KNOW, REALLY NO IDEA, DID COUNCIL EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER CHAL BINGO,
AND THEN THE DISCUSSION WAS THEN DO YOU EVEN WANT TO EVEN LOOK AT CHANGING THE B ONE AFTER THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST RECENT CONVERSATION IS CONDITIONAL.
IS THAT A TIME, TIME PERIOD? NO.
WELL, IT COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT YOU COULD, I MEAN, LIKE, UH, SHERRY WAS SAYING IS, IS THAT THOSE WOULD BE DEFINED, UH, BY, YOU'RE SAYING BY PLANNERS.
PLANNERS WILL GO THROUGH AND DECIDE, UM, WHAT HOURS, UM, THE PARKING, WHICH IS HUGE, WHERE Y'ALL WANT TO BE.
PARKING NEEDS AND HOURS AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WANT, CONDITIONS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON.
AND SO, SO WHY WOULD THAT BE PLANNERS INSTEAD OF US TO FIND CONDITIONS THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE? OKAY.
BUT ARE IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THAT, OR WAS IT, IS THE CONDITIONAL USE TIED TO THIS SPECIFIC BUSINESS FOR A LENGTH OF TIME? YOU WOULD, THE THE CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR, TO THAT BUSINESS, FOR BINGO FACILITIES AND A B ONE.
THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE.
SO THEY, WOULD IT BE SPECIFIED PARTICULAR PLACE? LIKE YOU'RE SAYING BINGO FOR BINGO? YES.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD SAY FOR B ONE, WE WOULD, IF IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, WE WOULD ALLOW, IF IT WENT THROUGH, WE WOULD ALLOW FOR CONDITIONAL USE OF, UH, ALLOWING BINGO FACILITIES TO GO INTO A B ONE.
BUT THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE CONDITIONAL, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT SHERRY SAID.
THAT'S A, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR EACH ONE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT FOR EACH ONE.
EVERYONE HAS TO APPLY SEPARATE.
SO WHAT WHAT PLANNERS SHOULD LOOK AT IS THEN THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LOCATION AND SAY WHAT KIND OF RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT.
THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM SHERRY.
SO, MR. MAYOR, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
UH, THE B ONE IS NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS, RIGHT? I DON'T SEE BINGO HALL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY THE PROVIDERS SAYING CUSTOMERS COMING FROM HOUSTON.
TO ME, THAT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS.
NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS SHOULD BE DEFINED AS SERVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT? SO TO ME, UH, I'M PERSONALLY NOT JUST, I HAVE ONE VOTE HERE.
SO, UH, THE CHARITABLE BINGO HALL IS NOT PERMITTED FOR, AND I UNDERSTAND AND, AND, AND, AND I'VE CONDITIONAL OR NOT.
AND I'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO.
THE THING WHERE I THINK YOU, WHERE WE, THEY HAVE, UM, MERIT, MERIT IS, IS THAT THEIR BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE CHARITY THAT THEY GENERATE.
THAT'S THEIR BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT THEY, SOMEBODY CAN GO IN THERE AND, AND BUY A COCA-COLA, UH, LIKE IT DID AT HEB WHEN IT WAS THERE, IS THAT THEY WOULD RUN A, RUN A BUSINESS THAT WOULD GENERATE DOLLARS THAT WOULD GO TO CHARITY IN THE AREA.
THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH, BUT THAT I'M TRYING TO FIT IT INTO, TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM HERE, UH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT IF HE JUST WENT BY THE CO THE, THE, JUST THE, THE BOLD STATEMENT OF BINGO HALL, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL.
LET ME READ YOU THE, SOME OF THE DESCRIPTION IN THE B ONE.
AND Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO MODIFY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY OLD.
UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING ZONE WHERE RETAIL BUSINESSES OR OTHER SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS SUPPLY
[00:40:01]
COMMODITIES OR SERVICES TO MEET THE DAILY NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.SO, UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY, THIS IS A VERY LONG, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANNA TALK ABOUT AT SOME POINT UPDATING THAT.
WELL, THAT'S, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT ITEM FOUR.
FIVE, FIVE HIGHLIGHTED WRONG THING.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DRIVE THROUGH IS, RIGHT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN HERE.
AND, UM, UM, WHICH I WAS, WE WERE EXPECTING.
THIS IS MORE, AND EVEN IF, EVEN IF IT WAS, IF WE ALL SAID, HEY, YEAH, IT HAPPENED, IT'S STILL MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD ABSOLUTELY.
BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMELINE IS, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE, I MEAN, IF IT DEPENDS ON ITEM FIVE AND WHAT WE DECIDE TO GO THERE, IF WE GO, IF WE DECIDE TO JUST MAKE A SMALL TWEAK TO TO BE ONE, OR IF WE DECIDE TO REWRITE THE WHOLE THING, IF WE DECIDE TO REWRITE IT, YOU'RE TALKING SIX MONTHS.
UH, IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TWEAKING IT, IT MAY BE HALF OF THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON TIMING.
BUT I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR YOUR DESIRE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND STUFF.
AND, UH, I THINK, UH, YOU GAVE US SOME, SOME STUFF TO THINK ABOUT.
IS THAT PROPERTY THE ONLY PROPERTY YOU'RE LOOKING AT? NO, SIR.
SO THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, DOES COUNCIL, WOULD COUNCIL BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, BINGO IN ANOTHER ZONE?
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A REALTOR.
SO SHE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR US AND INCLUDE LAKE JACKSON AND TON, BUT THE LAKE JACKSON ONE WAS OUR FAVORITE.
SO IF YOU SAID, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THIS, THIS PROPERTY'S NOT THAT ZONE, BUT IF COUNCIL FELT, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU KNOW, HAVING CHARTER BINGO IN THE CITY IS THEY'RE OPEN TO IT.
YOU COULD LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL ZONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT OPENS THAT UP.
IT MAY NOT BE THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT.
IT MAY BE IN A MORE EXPENSIVE AREA, YOU KNOW, THE MALL AREA AND STUFF.
BUT, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION, ANOTHER CONVERSATION WE HAD.
NOTHING WRONG WITH BINGO, YOU KNOW, HERE, LISTEN, BALL ROLLING.
THE OTHER THING, AND I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE, AND I'M, I'M GOOD ABOUT THIS.
YOU CAN CALL IT GOOD OR BAD, BUT I ALWAYS THROW OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SIDES OF STUFF AND JUST REMIND, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL IS, IS THAT WE'VE, FOR OTHER TYPES OF, SOME PEOPLE CAN VIEW THIS AS GAMBLING.
AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY STRONG AGAINST IS, AND SUCCESSFUL IS, IS THE EIGHT LINERS.
THERE ARE NO EIGHT LINERS IN LAKE JACKSON.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA GET PAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA THROW UP.
NO, YOU GOTTA GET PAST THAT STIGMA.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE IN THE PAPER AND, UH, WE'LL GET SOME FEEDBACK AND WE'LL LISTEN TO THE FEEDBACK AND, AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY ACT ACCORDINGLY.
BUT, UH, IT JUST, WE'RE A CONSERVATIVE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO KEEP PREACHING WHAT YOU, WHAT, WHAT YOUR GOAL IS.
AND THAT IS TO GENERATE REVENUE, TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT ONCE YOU GET UP AND RUNNING, IT'S NOT, DOESN'T BECOME CORRUPT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR OURSELF TOO, SO WHEN PEOPLE STARTS ASKING US.
SO, UH, AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL
SO, UH, ANYWAY, ANYBODY QUESTION? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR NOW? NO, SIR.
AND, UH, WE'LL STAY IN TOUCH AND Y'ALL STAY IN TOUCH.
IF YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM US IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, PICK UP THE PHONE, CALL HIM MODESTO HERE AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK, UH, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO SEE, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYBE, MAYBE ANOTHER ZONE OR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WE'RE LITTLE UNFAMILIAR WITH B ONE.
SO THERE WAS A GOOD, UH, OH, WHAT ZONE WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? LIKE A COMMERCIAL ZONE.
WHAT ZONE IS THAT? IS THAT, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ZONE OR BASIC COMMERCIAL ZONE IS A C ONE.
AND SO THAT IS MOST OF THE, UH, MOST OF THE PROPERTY, UH, ALONG THE MALL.
SOMETIMES IT'S B ONE, SOMETIMES IT'S C ONE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS, I BELIEVE, ON THE MALL SIDE IS C ONE SAL IS THE WALMART AREA.
SO IT'S MOSTLY ON THE THREE 30, THE ACADEMY AREA.
THE ACADEMY IS IS C ONE KOHL, UM, KOHLS.
THOSE ARE USUALLY C ONE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIALS ON THE, ON THE, ON THE HIGHWAY AREA.
YOU WOULD BE A GOOD CONTACT TO REFERENCE? YES.
THANKS FOR COMING, BEING WILLING TO TALK TO US ABOUT IT.
[4. Discuss the water rate study. – Modesto Mundo]
ALL RIGHT.UH, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM FOUR.
[00:45:01]
THIS GOES BACK TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE WATER RATE STUDY.UH, GOT THE REPRESENTATIVE STILL HERE.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY BURNING QUESTION THAT YOU WANT TO ASK RIGHT NOW? UH, AT THIS POINT WE COVERED IT REAL WELL.
AND THEY, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF IS AS WE THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND WE START ASKING MODESTO QUESTIONS AND HE SAID, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, IS WE CAN PROBABLY ZOOM IN WITH YOU AND, UH, WE CAN HAVE A, UH, A WORKSHOP AND, AND ZOOM HIM IN OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO, UH, TO, TO, TO, TO NARROW SOME OF THIS STUFF DOWN.
BUT THAT WAS A LOT OF MATERIAL WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DIGEST AND WE ALL NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND ASK THE QUESTIONS BACK TO MODESTO AND RENEE.
SO RENEE, YOU'RE THE WATER MAN, HUH? I DON'T KNOW, SIR.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HANGING ON.
[5. Discuss limiting businesses with drive-thrus in B-1 (Neighborhood Business) Zones when adjacent to or near residential areas. – Modesto Mundo]
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM SIX.DISCUSS LIMITING BUSINESSES WITH, UH, DRIVE-THROUGHS IN B ONE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS ZONING, UH, WHEN ADJACENT TO OR NEAR TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND I ASKED MODESTO ACTUALLY TO, TO PUT THIS ON HERE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, UH, LATE LAST YEAR, UH, CONCERNING THE, UH, PROPERTY AT, UH, NORTH YON IN 2004.
AND, UM, THERE WAS RUMOR ALREADY THAT, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE WAS ALREADY LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY 'CAUSE HE SAW NEW SURVEYOR STAKE.
SO I WAS GETTING TEXTS AND PHONE CALLS WANTING TO KNOW WHO'S COMING IN.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING THERE.
SO I JUST ASKED MODESTO IF, WELL, WE COULD BRING YOU BACK TO COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT WE WANTED TO, UH, UH, DO WITH THIS, UH, GO, UH, JUST B ONE ISSUE AND NEIGHBOR AND WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
UM, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS HAVE, AND BUSINESSES HAVE CHANGED TO WHERE THINGS THAT YOU THOUGHT IN THE PAST WOULD FIT INTO A B ONE TODAY, PROBABLY DON'T FIT INTO A B ONE AS THE WAY WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IT.
UH, WE ALL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL, UH, FROM, UH, SALLY THAT SHE FORWARDED FROM MR. YONI, UH, WITH, UH, SOME INPUT ON, WHICH WAS SEVERAL DOCUMENTS THAT YOU, EACH OF YOU NEED TO READ THROUGH AND, UM, GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
UM, HE'S SUGGESTING A, AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WAS IS, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE ITEM FIVE, WAS, IS, UH, WAS MAYBE JUST DOING A TWEAK AND JUST SAYING THE TWEAK WOULD BE, IS RESTRICTING, UH, DRIVE THROUGH BUSINESSES WHERE A BUSINESS COULDN'T HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, IN THOSE B ONE AREAS FOR AN EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPLAINTS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
WHAT MR. YONI IS SUGGESTING IS ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH A REWRITE OF WHAT IS A B ONE AND DO WE WANT TO WANT TO GO TO THAT EXTENT, OR DO WE NEED TO GO TO THAT EXTENT? UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS, IS WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANNA GO DO WE, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE JUST NEED TO DO A TWEAK? UH, AND WHAT, WHAT DOES THE TWEAK LOOK LIKE? OR DO WE WANT TO GO THE FULL EXTENT OF A COMPLETE NEW REWRITE OF WHAT IS A B ONE? MR. MAYOR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON IT FOR CITIZENS.
'CAUSE AS YOU KNOW, ELIZABETH NAY BI IS THINKING ABOUT SELLING THAT PROPERTY.
AND IF THEY SELL THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER B ONE TYPE OF BUSINESS IN THE AREA THAT, OR EVEN THE B TWO WOULD REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT IT.
OVERALL PICTURES, SINCE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE ZONING HAS CHANGED OVER YEARS, HAS EVOLVED, UH, WITH, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST EVOLVED FOR GOOD OR BAD.
I'M NOT, NOT SURE, BUT SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT THE ZONING, THERE'S WHOLE PICTURE AND NOT JUST PICK AND CHOOSE AND MAKE SMALL BANDAIDS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA JUST CREATE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST MY, MY THOUGHT ON IT.
AND I WOULD SAY, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF THAT A LITTLE BIT IS THE CO WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WITH THE BB ONE AND THEN WHAT WE'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW.
I ALMOST FEEL LIKE, AND DON'T ANYBODY SHOOT ME OR FLATTEN MY TIRES FOR THIS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE'RE TWEAKING AND HODGEPODGING AND STUFF.
AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THESE ORDINANCES WERE ORIGINALLY WRITTEN.
ORIGINALLY IT WAS B ONE OVER ON YO POND BEFORE THERE WAS RESIDENCE, RIGHT? SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
UM, TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ASKING TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY HAVE CHANGED.
[00:50:01]
PROBABLY NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE OVERALL THING, AS NICE AS IT WOULD BE JUST TO CHANGE A COUPLE OF WORDS.I DON'T THINK, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND DO A GUESS.
THERE ARE CONSULTANTS THAT HELP YOU WITH YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND I, AND WE WOULD NEED TO FIND A CONSULTANT IF Y'ALL REALLY WANTED TO DO THAT.
THE, WE WOULD NEED TO SPEND MONEY.
AND THE, THE, THE ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT THAT IS THE PANERA, PANERA BOX, THE CAN OPENING THE CAN OF WORMS WITH AN OVERALL CHANGE FOR ALL ZONING.
UM,
AND JUST LIKE WHENEVER THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS SET UP, THEY, THEY SET THE ZONING UP WITH GOOD INTENT.
AND THOSE GOOD INTENTIONS ARE NOW HAVING CONSEQUENCES 30, 40 YEARS LATER.
I MEAN, WE, IF WE, IF WE GO INTO IT THINKING THAT WE CAN MAKE IT PERFECT, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT PERFECT, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA GO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY.
AND, UM, MY PREFERENCE IS, IS TO GO IDENTIFY WHERE WE HAVE AN ISSUE AND TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS ELEPHANT IF YOU JUST PUT IT AND TAKE IT DOWN INTO BITE SIZES.
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE GOT A B ONE, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE TO IT.
MY QUESTION THOUGH IS, IS THAT DO WE, DOES, WHEN LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE, IS IT JUST CHANGING A FEW WORDS TO UPDATE IT? OR IS IT TO COMPLETELY REWRITE IT AND PUT IN, PUT IN REQUIRE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE TAKE CONTROL OVER, WE CANNOT DO.
THE STATE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO DO.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS EVEN A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT ENDED, BECAUSE THAT, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN, UH, AHEAD OF TIME.
WAS IS THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST, SO WE NEEDED TO, WE NEEDED TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS, IS THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH B ONE.
LET'S LOOK AT B ONE, SEE HOW BIG OF AN ISSUE IT IS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF SUCCESS OR WHAT KIND OF WHAT THAT, WHAT IT TOOK TO ADDRESS B ONE AND THEN DECIDE, OKAY, B ONE WASN'T A BIG ISSUE, LET'S TAKE B TWO.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS EVEN DISCUSSION WHENEVER WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, THE B ONE ISSUE, UH, AT YON WAS, IS THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT NEED TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, A B ONE A OR B ONE B OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
AND THAT, THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION IS JUST FOCUSING ON B ONE.
RIGHT? LET'S JUST LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT FITS MAYBE WHAT DO WE WANNA CHANGE? WHAT IS OUTDATED PER STATE LAW? AND JUST UP MAKE THOSE UPDATES.
THE WORKSHOP WOULD COME IN HANDY.
THAT'S KNOW IF YOU DON'T DO THIS RIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LEAVE YOURSELF OPEN FOR LITIGATION BECAUSE IF YOU CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, UH, SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO COME INTO THE BUSINESS, YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT IN CITY AT RISK IN LITIGATION AND IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD PRACTICE.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO NOT WAIT AROUND FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
WE OUGHT TO WORK ON IT RATHER PROACTIVELY.
AND, UH, I'M FINE WITH JUST DOING B ONE, BUT A B TWO IS GONNA BE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
BECAUSE, UH, BD IS NOT GONNA SIT ON THE PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHY DON'T WE START LIKE THAT? THAT'S FINE.
LET'S JUST LOOK AT B ONE FIRST.
UM, WELL LET ME ASK YOU, SHERRY, A QUESTION LEGAL, A QUESTION IS, IS HOW MUCH CHANGE CAN WE ACTUALLY DO TO THE ZONE THAT'S EXISTING BECAUSE OF INDIVIDUALS ALREADY OWN PROPERTY THAT THEY BOUGHT? THAT'S A B ONE.
AND I KNOW TODAY THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO WITH A B ONE.
AND IF WE MAKE A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THAT, WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT ON A HERE.
WELL, LET'S GO TO EXECUTIVE, WE'LL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS THEN.
WE'RE ALREADY A LONG MEETING, BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
WELL, I WOULD THINK OF IF WE CAME UP WITH NEW DEFINITIONS OF B ONE OR B TWO, WHATEVER, AND THEN YOU HAD EXISTING, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE IN THOSE THAT DIDN'T MEET THE DEFINITION, AND THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE NEW SET OF PROBLEMS, LEGAL PROBLEMS, OTHER THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT'D HAVE TO BE A, A REAL JUSTIFICATION TO, TO MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T I, INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THIS OFF THE CUFF, SEND YOU ALL OUT A MEMO OKAY.
BECAUSE I WANT, I WANNA THINK ABOUT IT MORE THAN JUST MY OFF THE CUFF ANSWER.
[00:55:01]
GONNA OPEN UP SOME OF THOSE THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OFFICE.AGAIN, ANOTHER NOT EASY ISSUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND, UM, AND I AGREE WE NEED TO GET IT DONE, UH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, TO ADDRESS, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, THAT PROPERTY.
AND, AND MAYOR YES, IF WE LUCKY BECAUSE WE APPLY FOR THE GLO GRANT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.
RIGHT? WE GET THAT, THAT WILL BE THE TIME ALSO TO TALK ABOUT WHAT GOES IN IN THE FUTURE AND THE ZONE CHANGES.
I, I WAS THINKING A SIMILAR THOUGHT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S A GRANT.
UH, WILL THEY PUT RESTRICTIONS IN, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE NORMALLY HIRING A, A CONSULTANT TO DO THE MASTERMIND, WE COULD CHARGE 'EM WITH, HEY, CAN WE DO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, DIVE INTO THE ZONE, SEE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE? UH, I WOULD BE ASKING THEM THAT.
BUT WHEN IT'S A-G-G-L-O AND THEY MAY BE TY US, WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT LATITUDE, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST ASK.
BUT SINCE WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS, I SAW, UH, MODESTO'S HAIR TURN A LITTLE GRAYER
AND THE CHALLENGE WITH GLO WE WERE ALREADY FINDING OUT IS THEY LOVE MEETINGS.
UH, SO, UH, ANYWAY, SO IT'S, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE GOING FORWARD.
WE'LL WAIT FOR SHERRY'S UH, UH, DIRECTION OR INFORMATION THAT SHE CAN PROVIDE TO US, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS BACK.
[6. Discuss and consider the first reading of an ordinance amending Ch. 102 Utilities of the City of Lake Jackson Code of Ordinances to change the charge for a customer-requested meter testing to the actual cost of the test. – Sherri Russell]
ALL RIGHT.UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING, UH, CHAPTER 1 0 2 UTILITIES OF CITY LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO CHANGE THE CHARGE FOR CUSTOMER REQUESTED METER TESTING TO THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TEST.
AND THIS IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE, RIGHT? WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT? WELL, MODESTO HAS TO READ IT.
YOU WANNA READ THE ONE? I'M NOT, DO YOU HAVE IT? HAVE THE ZONING? NO, THIS IS ON, I HAVE, IT'S THERE.
OH, I DIDN'T HAVE A, I DIDN'T HAVE A 1 0 2.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE A PRINT.
UH, THIS IS NORTON SAID, THE CITY OF LEE JACKSON, TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER 1 0 2.
UTILITIES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO CHANGE THE CHARGE FOR A CUSTOMER REQUESTED METER TESTING TO THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TEST AND TO UPDATE LANGUAGE.
PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES ARE PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH SHALL BE REPEALED TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONFLICT ONLY, AND PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE CHANGED CONSUMER TO CUSTOMER BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE PAY THE BILL, BUT THEY DON'T LIVE THERE.
UM, AND CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE MORE TO THE BIG CHANGE BIG RED SECTION.
I PUT ON YOUR, WHAT THIS REALLY SAYS, I KNOW THAT'S CONFUSING, IS THAT, UM, IF SOMEBODY THINKS THAT THE WATER METER IS OFF AND CHARGING TOO MUCH, UH, WE'LL TEST IT AND WE'LL TELL THEM WHEN WE'RE TESTING IT SO THEY CAN BE PRESENT IF THEY WANT.
AND THEN IF IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT OFF BY MORE THAN 2%, THEN WE'RE, THEY WILL, I, I THINK Y'ALL HAD A DOLLAR AMOUNT LAST TIME, BUT I PUT THE COST OF THE TEST.
'CAUSE I, IF IT GOES UP, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO ADMIT THIS, BUT IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, WE'LL EAT THE COST OF THE TEST AND WE'LL GO BACK AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL, ALL THAT RED SAYS, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE CAN HAVE TO SEND IT OFF METER TO RETEST, THEIR COST WILL BE HIGHER THAN IF IT IN HOUSE.
AND WE'VE, WE, I THINK, UM, WESLEY HAD, UM, TWO OR THREE QUOTES.
WE, WE'VE PICKED THE LOWEST PRICE FOR ONE AND IT WAS, IT WAS $120, UH, TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A METER COMPANY COME IN BECAUSE WE COULD AT, I THINK AT ONE TIME WE WERE TESTING IT, BUT THEN THAT'S, YEAH, WE'RE CHARGING $2 AND $2.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, FROM A CUSTOMER STANDPOINT, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE FOX, YOU KNOW, GUARDING THE HEN HOUSE IS LIKE YOU'RE TESTING YOUR OWN MEAT OR YOUR CO UH, SO WE BRING IN AN OUTSIDE COMPANY, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A COST COMPONENT TO IT, BRINGING AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO VERIFY IT.
SO DO WE ACTUALLY BRING THEM IN OR DO WE SHIP IT OFF? UM, WE, NO, WE BRING THEM, WE BRING THEM AND THEY CONTEST IT.
SO WHAT WE, WHAT SHERRY'S GOT HERE THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT? YES.
ANYBODY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO, SIR.
UM, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
FIRST READING, MS. MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO AMEND THE CHAPTER 1 0 2 UTILITIES, THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON CODE OF ORDINANCES TO CHANGE THE CHART FOR A CUSTOMER REQUESTED METER TESTING TO THE ACTUAL COST TO THE TEST.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SETH.
[01:00:02]
BUELL.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR VOTE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
[7. Discuss and consider the Charter Review Commission's recommended amendments for the May 2, 2026, General Election. – Sherri Russell]
OKAY.THROUGH WE'RE OKAY, DOWN TO SEVEN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AMENDMENTS, UH, FOR THE MAY 2ND, UH, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION.
I JUST GAVE YOU ALL AN, AN EXAMPLE OF THE WORDING.
UM, SO WHAT GOES ON THE BALLOT? UH, IT'S JUST THE QUESTION FOR PROPOSITION ONE SHALL SECTION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING ALLOWED ON THE BALLOT.
THE RED IS THE WAY I, I SUGGEST WE CHANGE THE CHARTER SECTION IF IT PASSES.
AND THAT ALSO GETS POSTED UP IN, IN DIFFERENT PLACES SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CHARTER AMENDMENT MEANS RATHER THAN JUST THE QUESTION, BUT THAT THE RED CAN'T GO ON THE BALLOT.
SO THE FIRST TWO WERE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UM, AS PROVIDED BY LAW, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
NUMBER TWO, CAN YOU SCROLL, UM, CHANGE THAT TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING? THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, OF THE NEW POSTING LAWS THAT WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO GET THINGS IN REALLY QUICKLY, BUT, AND, BUT WE CAN'T LIMIT OURSELVES TO THESE DAYS ANYMORE.
PROPOSITION THREE WILL SAY THAT, UM, YOU ALL WILL APPOINT THE CHARTER REVIEW AT LEAST ONCE EVERY SIX YEARS IN ODD NUMBERED YEARS.
AND, UM, IT WILL, AND YOU'LL JUST DO THAT ON AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU, UH, CHOOSE EVERYBODY ELSE 45 DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION.
IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION, AN ELECTION QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU.
UM, WHEN WE MAKE CHANGES LIKE THIS, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH IT.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MORE LANGUAGE AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING INTENT OF ANYTHING.
WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THE BALLOT BOX, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE CYNICAL SOMETIMES MM-HMM
ABOUT ANY CHANGES THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAKES.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS CAN WE LEGALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS, STUFF LIKE THIS, PUT OUT ANY EDUCATION ABOUT IT? OH, OH, YEAH.
AND I THINK WE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
THIS IS WHEN THERE'S, I THINK OUR LAST ORDER THERE.
AND, UH, WE PUT OUT SOME EDUCATIONAL, WE PUT OUT EDUCATION.
YOU JUST CAN'T SAY VOTE FOR MM-HMM
HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, HERE'S WHAT IT MEANS.
THIS WHAT'S GONNA BE ON YOUR BALLOT.
SO YOU NEED A, SO WE'LL BRING BACK A RESOLUTION, MA'AM.
WE'LL BRING BACK A VOTING RESOLUTION FOR YOU, OKAY.
AND WHEN DO THE FINAL, THE BALLOT NEEDS TO BE, UH, DEFINED.
FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 2ND, SHALL WE'RE GONNA TURN IT, UH, AT YOUR NEXT MEETING YOU'LL BE, UM, VOTING COMMITTED.
BUT ON THE 13TH IS THE LAST DATE OF FILE.
SO, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SECOND.
Y'ALL DON'T MEET UNTIL AFTER FIRST AND FINAL.
SO THE NEXT, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAVE TO SOLUTION, FINALIZE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FIRST AND FINAL.
YOU MADE A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT ONE.
[8. Discuss and consider Verizon's request to add additional communication equipment to the Oak Drive water tower and to modify the lease. – Modesto Mundo]
OKAY.ITEM EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER VERIZON'S REQUEST TO ADD ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT TO OAK DRIVE WATER TOWER AND TO MODIFY THE LEASE.
SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE HAD A REQUEST FROM VERIZON, UH, TO, UM, ADD ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE THEY DID THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANNELS OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING IT, SUBMITTING THE DRAWINGS AND STUFF FOR PERMIT.
AND THEN WE'VE HELD ONTO THE PERMIT REQUEST BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR, IT'S LIKE I TOLD 'EM, IT'S LIKE, WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING EQUIPMENT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THE AMENDED LEASE AMOUNT AND BRING THAT TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE PERMIT, BUT IT'S TAKEN TWO MONTHS TO GET INPUT FROM THEM ON AN AGREEMENT OF, OF WHAT COULD A LEASE AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, INCREASE, LOOK, LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE DELAY SINCE NOVEMBER OF SUBMITTING A PERMIT.
IT'S BEEN MORE OF, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED, IT WAS LIKE, WANTED TO PROMOTE, UH, WELL, AT FIRST THEY INITIALLY DIDN'T WANT TO PROPOSE ANY LEASE, UH, INCREASE.
AND I SAID, THAT'S NOT, UH, THAT'S NOT DOABLE.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBILITY OF WHAT WOULD BE THE UNIT PRICES.
I COULD NOT FIND A BENCHMARK OTHER THAN SOUTHLAKE.
UH, THEY'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT I'VE SEEN THAT, UM, UM, I GUESS
[01:05:01]
POST WHAT THEY CHARGE, UH, ON THERE.UH, THEY HAVE A BASE FEE FOR A RENTAL, AND THEN THEIR ONLY PER UNIT CHARGE WAS $250 FOR ANTENNAS, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHARGES DEFINED, OR THEY DON'T DEFINE ANY CHARGES FOR ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENT AND STUFF.
SO THAT WAS THE, THE ONLY BENCHMARK I, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD FIND FROM ANY OTHER COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO I WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH VERIZON AND SAID, OR, UM, THEY GAVE US A MARKET RANGE.
THESE ARE THE HIGHS THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY SEE IN THEIR PROPOSALS.
AND WHEN IT CALCULATED IT COME, IT CAME OUT BETTER THAN USING THE, THE TWO 50, UH, STUFF.
SO IT SEEMED A FAR, UH, A FAIR STARTING POINT, UH, FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, AND WHEN I, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOKED AT, UH, SOUTH LAKE, OUR LEASE ON THE WATER TOWER IS MUCH HIGHER THAN, UM, THAN, UM, SOUTH LAKE'S.
THEIR BASE IS $30,000 PER, UM, PER WATER TOWER.
AND YOU CAN, THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $2,500 A MONTH.
AND YOU CAN SEE OUR CURRENT LEASE IS 47.05 BASED ON THE RATES THAT THEY, UH, RECOMMENDED.
UH, THERE'S CHANGE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD AND THEY'RE, AND PROPOSING TO REMOVE.
UH, OVERALL YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
UM, IF WE GO WITH THE RATE RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD SEE A, UH, A LEASE CHANGE OF $600 A MONTH THAT STILL, THAT COMPONENT WOULD STILL HAVE A ANNUAL ESCALATION CHARGE ON THE AMENDMENT.
UH, OVER THE YEARS, THE, UM, THE COMMUNICATION COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO KEEP ON REQUESTING THAT, THAT BE MOVED TO EVERY FIVE YEARS.
UM, SO IT, IF THERE IS A CHANGE, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THAT COMPONENT.
AND THEN THEY JUST ASKED THIS NOT TOO LONG AGO, RIGHT, TO, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS, THEY REDUCTION, THEY WANTED A REDUCTION, AND EVERY COMPANY IS ASKING FOR A REDUCTION OR A BUYOUT, UH, ON THERE.
AND THAT WE DID BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
AND COUNCIL HAS, HAS, HAS SAID NO, THIS IS, UH, THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING IS BECAUSE IT IS ADDING, UH, EQUIPMENT, UH, TO THERE.
THE ENGINEER LOOKS AT THAT, THOSE REQUESTS AS WELL IF, UH, ON THE APPROVAL JUST TO SEE CAN THE STRUCTURE SUPPORT IT.
AND THIS INSTANCE, UH, IT APPEARS THAT IT CAN.
UH, SO THIS DISCUSSION FOR YOU IS, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE LEASE, UH, AND ALLOW THEM TO ADD EQUIPMENT? WHAT IS THE LEASE NOW? IT'S, UH, 47 0 5, UH, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
AND IT WOULD, UM, FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS.
I THINK IT HAS ANOTHER 15, POSSIBLY 18 YEARS LEFT.
SO HOW MANY WOODEN ANTENNAS THEY ADDING? JUST ONE? THEY ARE, UM, THEY'RE GOING FROM 15 TO 27 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, PIECES OF EQUIP.
THEY'RE REMOVING, THEY'RE REMOVING NINE ANTENNAS, BUT THEY'RE ADDING SIX BACK.
SO THE ANTENNAS ACTUALLY ARE GOING DOWN.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THERE'S ADDITIONAL FIBER LINES AND THERE'S PLEXES IN OUR USE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SMALLER, SMALLER DISHES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE 'EM ON THEIR DRAWING.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE EASIEST THING TO SEE.
WE ALREADY HAD AN OUTAGE BECAUSE THEY, SO, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP, UH, ON PAGE 70, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE NOT CHANGING.
THE FIRST PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT, I THINK EVEN BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PERMIT, THEY HAD TO GO AROUND IN THE SUMMER.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY ADDING A WHOLE NOTHER STRUCTURE.
AND WHEN I CAME BACK, THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FEE FOR, EVEN FOR THE STRUCTURE AS IF THEY CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER AND REVISED IT TO STAYING ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT THEY HAVE AND STUFF.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE CHANGES OF THE EQUIPMENT.
BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A FOURTH, UH, BRACE PUT ON.
AND IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND THEY GO TO DO THE WORK, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, I THINK THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING UP THERE THAT IS RUSTING AND I'M SEEING A RUST STREAK THAT FILES ALONG THEIR CABLE.
UH, THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION.
BUT, UH, EVEN IF THEY DON'T GO AND DO ALL THIS WORK, THEY NEED TO, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO UP THERE AND FIND OUT, FIRST OF ALL, LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE FROM GROUND, IF YOU'RE SEEING WHAT I'M SEEING.
AND, UH, WE MAY HAVE SOME, HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST A PIECE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT.
IT'S NOT A, A WELD SPOT ON THE BRACE OR SOMETHING.
I THINK LONG TERM IS, AS THIS GETS CLOSER TO THE LEASES ENDING, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE DOING A PROPOSAL TO, UM,
[01:10:01]
OPEN UP THE ANTENNA AT THE POLICE STATION AND SEE IF WE CAN GET COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT MOVED ON OVER, YOU KNOW, TO THAT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN RELEASED, THAT WE CAN DO THAT.BEFORE WE COULDN'T, UH,
THE GRANT FUNDING, BUT NOW THAT WE CAN, UH, LONG TERM, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH OUR EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, IS TO MOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT EQUIPMENT OFF THE WATER TOWER AND ONTO THE COMMUNICATION TOWER BEHIND THE PD.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US? UH, IF YOU FEEL THAT THE LEASE, UH, ADJUSTMENT IS, UH, OKAY.
AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH ADDING, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE EQUIPMENT, THEN IF YOU APPROVE THAT, THEN WE'LL PROCEED OF, UH, ASKING TO PREPARE THE AMENDMENT.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO THEN WORK IT THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, UH, FOR IT TO BE APPROVED BY A PERMIT.
HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE LENGTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ACTION ON THIS.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VERIZON'S REQUEST TO ADD ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT TO THE OAK DRIVE WATER TOWER AND TO MODIFY THE LEASE.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN, SETH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING, CALL FOR A VOTE.
[9. Authorize the City Manager to execute an agreement with Frazer, Ltd., to replace Medic 6 under HGAC Contract #AM10-23, in an amount not exceeding $359,426. – Will Ammons]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM NINE, AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, FRASER, L-E-L-T-D TO REPLACE, UH, MAX SIX UNDER HGAC CONTRACT AM ONE ZERO DASH TWO ZERO IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $359,426.
MR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.
UH, SO MAY SIX IS OUR, THE CURRENT EMS RESERVE UNIT.
UH, IT WAS REPLACED IN UNDER THE 21 BUDGET.
23, UH, WHEN IT MOVED TO RESERVE.
IT RESERVE'S KIND OF A, IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT IT IS.
WHEN OUR FRONTLINE UNITS GO DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIR, IT MOVES INTO THAT FRONTLINE SERVICE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT, IT'S GOT ADVANCED AGE AND MILEAGE ON IT.
IT, IT CONSTANTLY HAS ISSUES WHEN IT GOES INTO SERVICE.
WE WE'RE SPENDING, UH, OUR, WITH OUR SERVICE CENTER ON PARTS ALONE, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT $17,000 A YEAR JUST IN PARTS JUST TO KEEP IT ON THE ROAD.
WHAT YEAR MODEL IS IT? IT'S A 2016.
SO THE REQUEST WAS MADE DURING THE SUMMER.
I COULD NOT FIT IT IN, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY LIKE, BECAUSE WE HAD TO BORROW FROM OURSELVES TO PAY FOR BARREL
UH, AND SO WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA, UH, AT ALL.
AND SO THAT HAS REALLY PUT A HOLD ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CAN REPAIR, YOU KNOW, REPLACE.
AND SO WE'VE HAD TO SQUASH THAT A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE CAN.
BUT, UM, CHRIS AND WILL APP, YOU KNOW, APPROACHED, YOU KNOW, APPROACHED ME AGAIN AND SAY, THE LEAD TIME IS SO LONG ON AN AMBULANCE, IT COULD BE 18 TO 24 MONTHS THAT, YOU KNOW, WAITING UNTIL OCTOBER THIS SUMMER TO MAKE A REQUEST.
AND THEN PLACING THE OWNER IN OCTOBER JUST REALLY PUTS THEM BEHIND.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL WE, IF WE CAN TALK TO COUNSEL, WE COULD, IF COUNSEL IS AGREEABLE, WE COULD PLACE AN ORDER KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT AFFECTING THE CASH FLOW.
NOW, YOU KNOW, THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, BECAUSE IT'LL TAKE 18 TO 24 MONTHS TO GET HERE.
UM, SO IF WE, YOU KNOW, PLACE THE ORDER, WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT TAKE IT BEFORE OCTOBER ONE, UH,
BUT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO AHEAD AND PLACE THE ORDER AND IT WILL BE BUDGETED IN, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
YOU HAVE TO PUT SO MUCH MONEY DOWN TO DO THIS.
ALL, ALL WE NEED IS JUST THE COMMITMENT TO SIGN ON THE AGREEMENT.
WHAT'S THE MILEAGE ON THE EXISTING UNIT? 310,200 AND 300.
IT'S A GASOLINE OR DIESEL? IT'S A DIESEL ENGINE.
AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOUNTED, CORRECT? OR ONCE SO THIS, SO THIS WOULD NOT BE A REMOUNT, THIS WOULD BE, NO, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY DONE A REMOUNT ON THIS CHASSIS ALREADY, SO THAT THAT CHASSIS, THE MEDIC SIX CHASSIS, WHEN WE GOT THE NEW UNIT IN, WOULD WOULD GO AWAY.
THE, UH, BOX, IT'S A PATIENT COMPARTMENT.
NO, I GUESS THE QUESTION I WAS TRYING TO ASK IS, UH, AND TO LET MR. SCHOOLER KNOW IS THAT WHEN WE ORDER AN AMBULANCE, WE EXTEND THE LIFE OF AN AMBULANCE AND THAT, UM,
[01:15:01]
WE USUALLY KEEP THE CHA CHASSIS AND REMOUNT OR, OR VICE VERSA, THE PATIENT COM DEPARTMENT ON A NEW CHASIS ON A NEW, ON A NEW CHASSIS.SO JASON MARINI WOULD KNOW WHAT, PROBABLY TWO OR THREE RE I KNEW HE WAS GONNA RUN.
WE SAW YOU LURKING BACK THERE.
I SAW YOU, I SAW YOU AT THE CORNER OF MY EYE.
SO MEDIC SIX, THE ACTUAL PATIENT MODULE.
I THINK IT'S FROM 2006 OR 2008.
SO IT'S BEEN REMOUNTED THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND WE'VE KIND OF EXCEEDED THE LIFESPAN OF THE PATIENT MODULE AT THIS POINT.
AND SOME OF THE, THE ISSUES WE'VE RUN IN THE PAST ON THE REMOUNTS, UH, IS THAT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS CHANGE AND OUR PATIENT COMPARTMENTS DON'T MEET THE NEW CHANGES LIKE ROLLOVER REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A WHOLE NEW, TECHNICALLY IT'S MUCH OLDER THAN JUST THE CHASSIS, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S THE CAB OF IS IS OLD TOO.
THEY'VE GOT, WE, THEY, WE'VE GOTTEN HER MONEY'S WORTH OUT OF IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE REQUEST FOR, TO PUT IN THE, UH, UH, ORDER UNDERSTANDING.
WE'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT WHEN IT COMES IN.
UH, YEAH, WE'LL START, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WE'LL START THE BUDGET, UH, ALREADY IN THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND IN THE HOLE.
$359 IN THE HOLE
ALRIGHT, AGAIN, TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE, MR. MAYOR.
I MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH FRASER LTD TO REPLACE MEDIC SIX UNDER THE HGAC CONTRACT NUMBER AM 10 DASH 23 IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 359,426 PAYABLE AFTER OCTOBER, 2026.
UH, I THINK I HEARD MR. ELL FIRST.
CALL FOR VOTE ON A FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[10. Discuss the status of the TDECU donation for the FM2004 property. – Modesto Mundo]
OKAY.ITEM 10, DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE T-D-E-C-U DONATION.
UH, FOR FM 2004 PROPERTY MODESTO, UH, COUNCILMAN SHANYA HAD ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THE TDEC PROPERTY.
UM, SO I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE, UM, A GOOD TIME, UH, TO, WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH OF AN UPDATE BECAUSE, UH, THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN PUSHED, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PUSHED BACK.
AND I'VE NOT BEEN OPPOSED, UH, TO THAT.
THE SOONER WE TAKE IT, THE MORE THEN WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.
BUT WE DID HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING WHEN, WITH TDC WHERE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON.
THEY WERE, THEY HAD, THEY HAD COME TO THE MEETING ASKING US TO EXPAND PARKING ON THEIR NEW SITE.
AND IN, IN PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE, THEIR REAL ESTATE REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, UH, REQUEST MAINTAINING, UH, KEEPING THE DRIVEWAY ATMS. AND I REALLY DIDN'T THINK MUCH ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE PROMISED.
BUT WHEN MR. HANYA CALLED AND ASKED, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT AND THEN TALKED TO SHERRY AND THEN TO SAL AGAIN, MY MEMORY IS FUZZY ON THIS, BUT THE AGREEMENT SAYS ONE ATM IT DOESN'T SAY SITE OR ANYTHING.
IT SAYS THEY'RE GONNA CLEAR EVERYTHING OUT AND WE'LL DECIDE WHERE THAT ATM IS GONNA BE.
AND I THINK IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BUILDING, THAT LITTLE BUILDING WITH THE ATM WAS DEAD BECAUSE NO, THEY, THEY HAD, I THINK THAT THEY WANTED, THEY PREFERRED A DRIVE THROUGH AND THE, THE, THE LITTLE AT TM ACTUALLY THEY WERE GONNA REMOVE THAT BUILDING.
AND WE SAID THAT WE WANTED THAT BUILDING TO STAY THE LITTLE AT TM TO STAY.
WELL, THAT CREATES A PROBLEM BECAUSE ANYTIME BE PLANNING ON SELLING THEIR PROPERTY, UH, HAVING A DRIVE THROUGH TWO DRIVE THROUGH LANES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PROPERTY IS NOT GONNA BE VERY CONDUCIVE TO GET A GOOD VALUE FOR THEIR LAND.
SO, I MEAN, THE AGREEMENT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
THE AGREEMENT SAYS Y'ALL CLEAR OUT AND WE'LL DISCUSS LATER IF, IF THERE'S GONNA BE AN ATM OR WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.
AND IT LET'S, WE CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THOSE RECORDINGS FROM THEN.
IT WAS, UH, I, I DID GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE RECORDINGS.
UM, THERE, THERE'S NOTHING SAID ON THE ATM LOCATION.
I THINK MAYBE A LOT OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT OTHER MEETINGS AND STUFF.
THAT'S WHY MY MEMORY IS REALLY FUZZY ON THAT.
UH, SAL AND SHERRY'S IS, YOU KNOW, UH, IT WAS PROBABLY WHEN WE WERE ZOOMING JUST WITH THOSE TWO GUYS AND, UM, WORKING OUT THE DETAILS AND STUFF IN ORDER TO GET THE CONTRACT.
SO THEY ONLY WANT ONE OF THE TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS? NO, I, THE CON THE, THE, THE QUICK CONVERSATION WAS THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE DRIVE-THROUGHS.
I HAVE TOLD THEM THOUGH, I CALLED THEM, YOU KNOW, SAID THIS WAS GONNA BE ON THE DISCUSSION.
[01:20:01]
THEM.IT SAYS THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEFINED
AND SO EVERYBODY'S MEMORY IS, MAY BE DIFFERENT.
MINE WAS ALREADY FUZZY ON THIS AND IT SAYS, SO IT COULD BE A POINT OF CONTENTION OR NOT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THERE'S, THEY'RE SET ON IT AND I THINK THEY'VE JUST HAVE SAID THAT THEY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT SAYS, OKAY, I GET, I NEED TO BRING THAT UP.
HONOR, CAN YOU PULL UP THE CREDIT UNION, THE OLD CREDIT UNION SITE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS FOR NOW? I ASK A QUESTION.
DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING REMOVE ALL THE BUILDINGS? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD, SO SO YOU'RE SAYING KEEP THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT THEY, WHAT, WHAT THEY GO A THE CASH, THE ATM DRIVE THROUGH? JUST INDEFINITELY, BACK TO MY QUESTION AT M DRIVE THROUGHS, RIGHT BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.
THE ONLY BUILDING THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING DOWN WAS THE LITTLE, UH, SEPARATE ATM BUILDING IN FRONT.
AND WE SAID CLOSE TO 2004, LEAVE THAT THERE, UH, AND STUFF.
AND SO THE, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I SET IN ON THIS WAS, IS THAT THEY, THEY CONTINUED, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP A DRIVE THROUGH ATM AT THAT LOCATION AND WE WILL HAVE TO CHARGE THEM, RIGHT.
AND I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I RECALL THAT, THAT WAS NOT IN A DOCUMENT LIKE SHERRY'S TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED.
I MEAN THERE'S, THERE HAD, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY MAKING A COMMITMENT SAYING THAT FOR SURE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED.
PRETTY AN AUTOMATED AGREEMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA DONATE THE LAND THEN AFTER WE ALL AGREED, THEY BACKED OUT OF IT.
WHAT, SO ON WHAT? THE PARK LAND? WHAT? THE PARK LAND? OH NO.
THE PARKLAND THAT NO, IT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE DISCUSSION INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE, WE BACKED, IF YOU, IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE BACKED OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED, IF WE KEPT WITH THE, THE, THE PARK, WE KEPT GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PARK.
THEY SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO BE, WE NEED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND THE PARK FACILITY HAD TO BE IN PLACE BY THE TIME THAT THE, THE NEW FCI, THE NEW FACILITY OPENED.
AND THAT WOULD'VE MEANT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO SPEND $2 MILLION OVER A SIX TO 12 MONTH PERIOD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE SAID WE DON'T WANT THE PARK.
WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST TAKE THE, THE, THE, UH, CREDIT UNION FACILITY.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOU.
'CAUSE I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER THEM COMING BACK TO US AND SAYING THE NEW CEO CAME ON BOARD AND HE SAID THEY WERE GIVING AWAY TOO MUCH AND THEY WANTED TO BACK OUT OF, UH, BUT IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T HURT.
I REALIZE THAT THEY SAID THAT.
WE WERE LIKE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S FINE.
I'M AGREEING WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
I'M JUST SAYING THEY ALREADY BACKED OUT.
AND THEIR BACKING OUT AGAIN WAS, IS THE STIPULATION OF, IS THAT IF THE PARK STAYED IN THE EQUATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO DONATE THE PARK LAND AND THEY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP IT AND TURN IT OVER TO US.
AND THAT'S WHENEVER THEY SAID THEY, THEY HAD TOO MUCH INVOL, TOO MUCH, UH, COMMITMENT THERE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE MADE, THEY SAID IF THE PARK WAS GONNA STAY IN THERE, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE, THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO PICK UP THE COST OF DEVELOPING IT AND IT WAS GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE OVER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THE, ALL THEY DID WAS THEY CHANGE? YES.
THEY, THEY CHANGED THE, UH, THE WAY THAT GIFTING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE MADE THE DECISION OF WALKING AWAY FROM IT OR NOT.
IF WE HAVE CITIZENS DRIVING ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, YOU JUST MADE A COMMENT ABOUT CHARGING THEM RENT.
'CAUSE WE'RE THE GOVERNMENT AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE LIABILITY.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE INSTANCE OF A VEHICLE TRYING TO DRAG OFF THE ATM MACHINE.
THIS IS WHY I DON'T, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S, THERE'S ONE AT TM IS THERE ANOTHER ONE THAT THERE'S TWO.
THERE'S THAT ONE DOWN THERE AND THERE'S, AND THERE'S TWO ATMS INSIDE THE BUILDING.
WELL THOSE AREN'T OUT THERE THAT, SO I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THEY WAS JUST GONNA HAVE THE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED THE BLUE BUILDING STAYED.
THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER AS WELL.
I THOUGHT I I, I THOUGHT THE BLUE BUILDING WAS GONNA STAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS GONNA BE OURS.
AND THEY WERE JUST GONNA BE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I, AND SO THE BLUE BUILDING, MS, THAT'S THE LITTLE ONE.
THEY, THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN THE BLUE BUILDING.
THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE DRIVE THROUGH FOR CONVENIENCE, FOR THE CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE FOR CONVENIENCE FOR CUSTOMERS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THEY WERE SAYING IS THEY WERE INTERESTED IN KEEPING A DRIVE THROUGH ATM AT THE LOCATION.
THEY DIDN'T SAY IN THAT, IN THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS NOT THE EXISTING, IT WAS THAT THEY WANTED, WANTED TO KEEP A DRIVE THROUGH ATM AT THAT FACILITY.
[01:25:01]
SAYING IN THE AGREEMENT IS, IS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION YET, OR WHATEVER.MY, MY ADVICE IS THAT I, I, I KNOW IT'S CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I WOULD APPROACH IT JUST LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR, UH, APPROACHES IT, IS THAT EITHER A COMPONENT, A ATM INSIDE OR AN ATM DRIVE-THROUGH PROBABLY HAS DIFFERENT VALUE TO THEM AND MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT LEASE RATE.
THERE'S DRIVE-THROUGH ATMS ON PLENTY OF PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UH, THE, THE ONE THAT COMES DIRECTLY TO MY MIND IS, UH, TDCU HAS ON BUCKY'S.
UH, AND IT CAN BE WORKED AROUND IF THERE'S A CERTAIN VALUE, YOU KNOW, TO IT, IT COULD BE A LEASE.
UM, AND SO IT IS A, RIGHT NOW, OUT OF ALL THE PROPERTY THAT, I MEAN THIS WHOLE UNIT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'RE THE COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCIL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT LEASING IT, PARTIALING IT OFF INTO DIFFERENT SITES.
THIS IS ONE COMPONENT OF ALEA, OF A POSSIBLE LONG-TERM LEASE THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE BANK.
AND IS, THEY MAY BE WILLING TO, THEY MAY REALLY VALUE HAVING A DRIVING COMPONENT, BUT WE STILL MAY SAY, DOES IT HAVE TO BE THERE? IT COULD BE AT ANOTHER PLACE.
OR THEY REALLY WANT TO STAY WITH IT BECAUSE THAT DRIVE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A COST THAT'S ALREADY SUNK.
I THINK A LOT OF IT'S OPEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, BUT WE CAN HEAR THEM OUT.
WHAT WOULD THEY PROPOSE? BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE A DEAL KILLER, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR US.
SO THIS, UH, PROPERTY, I WANNA MAKE SURE, SO THIS PROPERTY HERE IS CITY'S PROPERTY? YEAH.
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE WHOLE SOURCE SOMETHING DIVIDING THE CITY PROPERTY.
ALL THIS HERE THEN IS THIS CITY PROPERTY? YES.
AND THIS IS ALL THE CITY PROPERTY.
SO WE TALKING ABOUT THESE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES AND WE POSITIONED RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE TWO PIECES OF THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
AGAIN, IT'S THE AGAIN, IS IS THAT WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CONVERSATION OF WHERE THEY WOULD, WHAT WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY IS THAT WE DON'T, YOU CAN HAVE AN ATM DRIVE THROUGH THERE, BUT IT CAN'T BE AT THAT LOCATION.
IT NEEDS TO BE AT A CORNER OR IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STUFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
IT, YOU KNOW, TO ME I'M HEARING A, A SHOWSTOPPER.
WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT SHOWS STOPPER.
AND SO WE LEAVE THOSE TWO LANES.
AND CAN WE JUST DO, LIKE, FOR THE TIME THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE PROPERTY AT ALL, CAN WE JUST DO A SHORT TERM? YEAH.
WHILE IT TAKES US THAT LONG TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE EVEN GONNA DO WITH IT.
JUST KEEP YOUR DRIVE THROUGHS, PAY RENT.
I'D SAY EVER CAN WE DO SHORT TERM MEDICAL? YOU CAN DO ANYTHING.
WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH, WITH THEM.
AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNSEL ON WHAT, WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY.
WHAT, WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
WHAT, WHAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE COULD GO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, BUT AGAIN ON THIS, THIS HERE IS AGAIN, IF THEY WANT TO KEEP AN AN ATM DRIVE THROUGH ATM AND WE FEEL THAT WHERE IT'S AT IS, IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE USE, PROPER USE OF THE FACILITY OF THE LAND IS WE CAN SAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE IT, BUT YOU NEED TO MOVE IT TO THIS LOCATION.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT, IF THEY WANT TO WANT ONE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL DO.
UM, SO IT'S, AND DID THEY DISCUSS BY ANY CHANCE THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING TO OPEN
I, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PAPERWORK.
I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA PUSH TO MARCH.
THEIR, THEIR DEADLINE IS AUGUST, RIGHT? FOR THE THREE YEARS.
SO THEY'RE PUSHING FORWARD WITH, THEY HAD TO DECOMMISSION A LOT OF THE STUFF.
SO IT'S, APPARENTLY IT'S NOT EASY TO JUST SHUT DOWN A BANK FACILITY.
SO GOTTA PROCESS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU OWN IT, OWN THE FACILITY.
SO YOU'RE OUT OF THERE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
PLEASE PASS ON THE INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL.
WHAT'S THAT? IF, UH, IF YOU ARE DISCUSSING THOSE THINGS WITH CREDIT UNION, LIKE YOU SAID YOU HAVE, PLEASE PASS ON THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
I DON'T THINK I'VE KEPT ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY.
WELL, WE NOT HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS DECOMMISSIONING TAKES TIME, ET CETERA.
SO WE ARE NOT SITTING HERE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
SO, WELL, I THINK THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING IN THE MANAGER'S LETTER TALKING ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING.
YESTERDAY WHEN I ASKED FOR IT.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S, HE WAS GIVING YOU AN UPDATE.
YOU ASKED FOR AN UPDATE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DECOMMISSIONING REQUIREMENTS.
SO I I LEARNED ABOUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU DID? YEAH.
SO DON'T ACCUSE ME OF KEEPING SECRETS FROM YOU.
I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF ANYTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE 8:00 AM MACHINES ARE NOT
[01:30:01]
WORKING RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY? YES, THEY'RE WORKING.SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE ONE IN THE BUILDING IS STILL WORKING OR NOT.
I KNOW DEFERRED, I WAS JUST DEFERRED.
THE ONLY ONES ARE WORKING ARE THE TWO DRIVES.
I DON'T THINK THE ONE, THE ONE IN THE BUILDING, BLUE BUILDING I DON'T IS WORKING.
I'M SURE THOSE WOULD BE THE ONES THEY'D WANNA KEEP.
'CAUSE THEY JUST UNK A LOT OF MONEY AFTER THE TRUCK TRIED TO DRAG IT OFF.
THEY SUNK A LOT OF MONEY INTO REINFORCING THOSE.
AGAIN, ALL WE'VE ASKED BEFORE IN DECEMBER WAS WHEN WE HAD A MEETING ON THE PARKING, JUST TO CLARIFY ANYTHING IN, DURING THE SUMMER THEY SAID THEY WERE LOOKING AT GIVING US THE BUILDING IN THE NEW YEAR, MEANING AFTER JANUARY ONE.
AND IT TRUE, I HAD TO ADVISE COUNSEL OF THAT IN DECEMBER WHEN WE HAD A MEETING IN ON PARKING.
I ASKED FOR AN UPDATE AND THEY SAID THE LAWYERS WERE GETTING READY TO WORK ON IT AND THAT WE COULD EXPECT SOMETHING AGAIN AFTER THE NEW YEAR, MOST LIKELY LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY.
AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION ON A SIDE CONVERSATION, IT WAS QUICKLY WE'D LIKE TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TO ASK TO KEEP THE DRIVE-INS.
I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT.
BECAUSE I COULDN'T REMEMBER AT ALL THE ATM CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING WAS A MINOR CONVERSATION AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE TALKING MORE ABOUT BUILDING THE ROAD
AND I'M SAYING IT'S KIND OF OUTTA ORDER IN THE PARK.
SO, UM, THE WHOLE THING'S KIND OF OUTTA ORDER 'CAUSE THEY NEED TO DONATE THE LAND.
AND THEN LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ATM MACHINE.
AND THAT'S THE WAY ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, RIGHT? UH, IS THAT DONATE THE LAND AND THEN, WE'LL, IN THE FUTURE WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, THE ATM.
ANY, ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS, ANY CONVERSATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ATM DRIVE THROUGH ATM? THERE HAVE BEEN JUST A COMMENT.
IT HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.
IT HASN'T BEEN ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT OR ANYTHING.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE, THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
SO WOULD COUNCIL SHANYA, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR THE UPDATE? I WAS LIKE, UH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO UPDATE.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT ONE SIDE COMMENT.
I SAID, WE NO HURRY TO ACCEPT THE BUILDING 'CAUSE THE COST TO THE CITIZENS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT ON THE ROAD, WE ARE GONNA GET THE FAIR VALUE.
'CAUSE PROBABLY PROPERTY IS WORTH A LOT MORE THAN THE ROAD WE PUT IN.
AND IT IS GOOD FOR THE BUSINESS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GONNA GET, UH, PROPER REDEMPTION FOR OUR LAND.
YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY PAID FOR THE ROAD SO THAT MONEY IS GONE.
WE COULD BE EARNING INTEREST ON THAT MONEY.
SO WE GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR THAT.
I'LL PROPOSE THAT THE LEASE IS THE, FOR THE AT TM IS THE SAME AS THE ROAD
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I, WE DON'T.
WE JUST TALK TO DALE AND SEE WHAT THEY JUST OFFER.
TELL HIM, GET THE DONATION DONE, THEN THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OFFER AND THEN WE KNOW WHERE TO GO.
I THINK FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION THAT I HAD, WE SEE THE BUSH THAT WE DON'T YEAH, WE HADN'T EVEN DISCUSSED ANYTHING WITH THEM ABOUT, I THINK THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND, I MEAN THEY'RE DEVELOPERS AS WELL, SO THEY KNOW THE SENSITIVITY OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, OKAY, THIS MAY NOT BE THE PRIME LOCATION FOR US IF WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE IT KIND OF BISECTS A PORTION, PORTION OF IT.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
THEY, AND TO BE CLEAR, OUR ANSWER TO THAT DOESN'T IN ANY WAY AFFECT THE DONATION.
LIKE THEY'RE NOT SAYING IT HINGES IT'S NOT A DEAL.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A NO, THEY'VE NOT ALLUDED TO THAT AT ALL.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THAT THEY WILL DONATE THE PROPERTY.
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF GOING IN CIRCLES HERE.
WE ARE GOING WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO DOW.
SO, WELL, IT'S NOT DOW, I MEAN TDC, THE RELATIVE.
SO THERE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE AS REQUESTED.
I THINK COUNCIL AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO SECURE THE BUILDING.
IT GONNA, WHAT ALL THE AC GONNA BE STOLEN.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BROKEN WINDOWS BECAUSE THERE IS NO FENCE AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO WE, WE NEED TO HAVE COUNCIL HAVE A PLAN.
EITHER WE LEASE IT, WE SELL IT.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE BUILDING JUST SIT LIKE THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
ALL THE AC THAT IF TURNED IT OFF, IT'S GONNA BE RUINED.
THE BUILDING INSIDE, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO DESTROY THE PROPERTY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YES, WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
BUT, UH, I MEAN A LOT OF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, THERE'S BEEN LARGE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SET AROUND IN, UH, NORTH SIDE OF ANGLETON FOR YEARS THAT WERE NOT VANDALIZED, THAT WERE A LOT EASIER TO VANDALIZE THAN THIS WOULD BE.
SO THOSE CONCERNS COULD BE ADDRESSED, UH, PRETTY EASILY.
[01:35:01]
BUT YES, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE, AND, AND I'VE ASKED FOR IT AND WE WILL DO IT.I'VE ASKED FOR IT TO HAVE A, A CONVERSATION, UH, UH, WITH COUNSEL ON, WITH BRINGING RECOMMENDATIONS OF HERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP A WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL TO, TO DISCUSS THIS BEFORE, I WOULD SAY BEFORE WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL WORKSHOP, UH, AND STUFF.
SO COUNCIL CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THEIR INPUTS AND, AND DIRECTIONS OF WHAT WE SEE THE LONG TERM.
I JUST WAS, I WAS NOT RUSHING ON THAT UNTIL WE HAD THE PROPERTY.
WELL, AND THERE'S, THERE'S ENTITIES THAT, THAT, UH, THAT I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND THAT THEY, THEY ALWAYS ASK, WELL, DO YOU HAVE THE ASSET? AND I HAVE TO SAY, NO, I DON'T HAVE THE ASSET YET.
AND SO THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT, BUT THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA START ANY CONVERSATIONS UNTIL WE HAVE THE ASSET.
[11. New Business Updates - David Walton]
AND SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM 11.DISCUSS, UH, BUSINESS, UH, UPDATES.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, SO THIS IS DELAYED A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WE DO HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THE GAME STOP IS CLOSING AND AMERICA'S BEST EYEGLASSES BY PERMIT HAS ACTUALLY, UH, SLOTTED TO GO INTO THAT, THAT SPACE.
UH, BEFORE THERE WAS LOTS OF RUMOR, BUT, UH, THAT IS, IS IS OFFICIAL.
UH, WE HAVE WORK PROGRESSING ON ALL OF OUR, UH, BUILDINGS UNDER ARE CONSTRUCTION TAKE FIVE, SEVEN BREW, HURRICANE GRILL AND WINGS IS ALMOST OPEN.
UM, WHAT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE IS, UH, JUICY CRAB OVER WHERE TONY'S TABLE WAS, WHICH IS ON THE VERGE OF OPENING.
THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T LEAVE IT IN A CONSTRUCTION, UH, STATE.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE ARE WAITING FOR PLANS FOR FAT BURGER AND ROUND TABLE, ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVE THOSE ARE STILL OPEN.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS? IS GAMESTOP ALREADY CLICK CLOSED? I'M SORRY? HAS GAMESTOP ALREADY CLOSED? YES, MA'AM.
SO I NOTICED THAT HURRICANE DRILL AND WINGS ALREADY HAD LIGHTS ON AND TABLES AND CHAIRS.
SO I GUESS THEY LOOKS OPEN UP PRETTY CLOSE.
SO THEY, THEY HAVE, ONCE THEY THEY GOT INTO THAT BUILDING, THEY, THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED.
THEY HAVE BEEN CONTINUING TO GOOD PROGRESS.
IT'LL BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT CORNER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU SAID YOU SEE SEVEN BUICK GOT A BUILDING OVER THERE THAT A COFFEE SHOP, SEVEN BREW.
AFTER THEY GOT BUILDING THEY PUT A BUILDING UP.
WELL IT CAME IN A MODULAR PIECES.
[12. Staff Updates]
STAFF UPDATES.MODESTO, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? CITY MANAGER? UH, NO, I DO.
WE HAVE ANY AGENDA, UH, ACTIONS? SHERRY'S GOT SOME STUFF TO GET TO US ABOUT.
IT'S ALL YOU, I HAVE A LOT OF YELLOW CIRCLES ON THIS.
IT'S MAKING ME TIRED JUST TO LOOK AT IT EXTRA BILL.
I HAVE SECOND READINGS TO BRING YOU A ERUDITE MEMO TO WRITE IN THE RESOLUTION ACT.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S A COMBO WITH ME AND THE CITY SECRETARY FOR, UH, THE ELECTION.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? DID YOU NOT MODESTO? NO, I SAID IT WAS ALL SHERRY.
[13. Construction Updates]
ALL RIGHT.NOTHING I'M HEARING JUST TO, TO, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATING TO ANY OF THE PROJECT WE, WE HAVE GOING, OR I CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST, WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT GIVES A BIT BETTER DETAIL ON WHERE WE ARE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
BUT IF THERE'S ONE THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS ONE, UM, THAT I, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, UM, WAS INITIALLY WE WERE, UM, THE PARKWOOD TERRACE ON OCD.
WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO CLOSE A LARGER PORTION, UH, OF THE ROAD FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE, UH, CLOSING ONE LANE DOWN, UM, ON A SIDE AND, UM, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THAT IT PROGRESSES ON CORRECT SALE.
[01:40:01]
DISCUSSING, DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR OVER AT, IN THE FIELD ITSELF, VILLE, UH, THEY GOT, UH, THEY GOT COAL FEET ON OR ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN ABOUT DETOURING THROUGH THE WHOLE AREA.UH, AND SO WE WENT BACK TO WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE KNOW CAN WORK, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE ALL ALONG, ALONG, UH, OCEAN CREEK DRIVE.
AND UH, WHEN, UH, WE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TRY THAT APPROACH JUST LOOKING ONE THING AT A TIME AND GETTING EVERYONE ELSE INTO THIS, INTO THE OPEN LANE, UH, AND SEE WHERE IT WORKS THAT WAY.
I THINK THEY DECIDED THAT PROBABLY WAS THE BEST, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO GO.
SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
PEOPLE ARE, ARE AWARE OF THAT.
SO THEREFORE WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE.
ARE THESE THE SAME PEOPLE ON OUR STREET THAT DID IT THIS WAY? BEHIND MY HOUSE? YES.
LOOKED DOWN THERE AND IT WAS TORN, TORN UP TWO OR THREE DAYS LATER AND THEY WERE EXCELLENT.
SO WE'RE PUTTING NEW CULVERT BOXES THERE, BUT YOU BUT THE WAY THEY, THE WAY THEY DID IT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT, CORRECT, YEAH.
THAT'S THE SAME PROCEDURE THEY'RE GONNA USE, EXCEPT THEY'RE GONNA BE A BIT LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, TIME IN INVOLVED WITH EACH, WITH EACH OF THOSE LANES BECAUSE THEY ARE GONNA BE INSTALLING A, UH, ONE, UH, ONE BOX CULVERT, WHICH IS A FIVE BY EIGHT CULVERT.
UH, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A NICE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, BUT THEY WERE IN AND OUT, IN AND OUT.
THEY THEY DO TRY TO GET OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
AND, AND, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO WORK.
ONE, ONE LANE CLOSURES MADE A LOT OF NOISE, BUT, SO IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ON OCD ON THE PANEL REPAIRS.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME, UH, CLOSING ON ONE OF THE TURN LANES COMING OFF OF DIXIE GOING TO TOWARDS DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO LANES RIGHT NOW THAT TURN INTO, UH, INTO OCD AT THAT LOCATION.
WE'RE GONNA KNOCK ONE OF THOSE LANES OUT AND WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE ONE LEFT TURN LANE GOING AND ONE RIGHT TURN GOING.
AND EVEN RIGHT THERE AT THE SCHOOL ZONE, DURING SCHOOL TIME, PEAK TIME, IT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY.
THEY DID A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
AND THOSE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEAL STATUS ON THE LIGHT THERE? ON THE PLANTATION? I DON'T KNOW THE STREET, BUT PLANTATION RIGHT BY THE SCHOOL THERE.
THAT ONE SYCAMORE, YOU WILL HAVE THAT SYCAMORE.
WE WILL GIVE YOU A, A GOOD REPORT, UH, UH, ON THAT ONE.
UH, THAT'S, UH, DO, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING YOU THE REPORT, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY RAN ON THAT TRAFFIC ON THAT INTERSECTION AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THAT.
HAVE YOU HAD MUCH COMMENTS, NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE STOP, STOP SIGNS? REALLY? NO, WE HAVE NOT GOT ANY TIMES I'VE BEEN ON IT.
EVERYONE'S, UH, LEARNED HOW TO OPERATE THROUGH THAT.
AND THE FOUR WAY STOP SEEMS TO BE WORKING FINE.
IT'D BE CHEAPER THAN THE LIGHTS.
HUH? I THINK SALS WAS TURNED INTO A ROUNDABOUT.
SO
AND ALMOST ALL FOUR-WAY STOPS.
FOR SOME REASON THEY SEEM TO WORK FINE AND WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD WHEN I MOVED DOWN HERE.
THE LIGHTS, THE LIGHTS ARE STILL OFF THERE.
ONLY I CAN SAY THAT HE ASKED THAT DURING THAT HE HAD THE HORSE.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU LITTLE MORE OF AN UPDATE.
THANK YOU MAYOR FOR SENDING US THAT, UH, THAT LETTER, THAT EMAIL, UH, AND WE PASS IT ON TO THE, UH, TO THE CONTRACTOR ALSO.
SO HE'S AWARE THAT THEY APPRECIATED THAT.
I HAVE POSITIVE THINGS FROM PEOPLE LIVING AROUND THE STREETS AND BRIAN FOLKS HAVE, OH, YOU ALSO HAVE, THEY'RE VERY HAPPY.
YOU KNOW, THEY OPENED UP A HOLE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, COVERED IT UP BEFORE THEY GO HOME.
YEAH, THEY TRY, THEY LIKE TO WORK HERE AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IN A LITTLE BIT EXTRA.
[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.MR. HANYA, JUST A COUPLE OF, ONE ITEM ACTUALLY.
UH, THE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND YON, NORTH YON, UH, EITHER PUTTING DOWN FIBER OR SOMETHING, UH, AT AND T OR SOMEBODY.
AND, UH, THEY ARE NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF, UH, TRAFFIC.
THE PARKING ALL THE WAY DOWN BANYAN, ALL THE WHOLE LANE BLOCKED.
UH, AND SO WHEN TRAFFIC COMING IN TOWARDS, UH, Y ON, ON BANYAN, UH, BY THE TIME YOU ALL THE WAY IN THE LANE AND PEOPLE ARE TURNING RIGHT INTO, IN FRONT OF YOU, HAVE
[01:45:01]
NOWHERE TO GO.SO THEY NEED TO STAGGER THEM VEHICLES.
SO YOU CAN, PEOPLE CAN KIND OF GET AROUND TO PASS THE WORD ON.
UH, YEAH, THIS WAS JUST THIS AFTERNOON.
SO, UH, I GUESS THEY STARTED TODAY.
MS. SETH, UH, VANESSA HAD ONE QUESTION.
HAVE WE HAD ANY UPDATE FROM CENTERPOINT? THE LIGHTS OVER THERE IN FRONT OF LIKE RIGHT DOWNTOWN? UM, NO, WE HAVE NOT.
UH, WELL THE UPDATE THAT WE HAD WAS THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE'S A, A BROKEN LINE.
UH, NOT SO IT'S NOT THE LIGHTS, IT'S A LINE.
BUT WE, UM, UM, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN, YEAH, UH, SIX WEEKS WHEN WE ENTERED OUR, UH, REQUEST FOR FOR SERVICE.
I'LL LOOK FOR THE EXACT DATE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE THAT WE HAVE.
CAN WE CONTACT HIM AGAIN? WILL.
UM, YES, THE, UH, PROJECT SELL, WORKING ON THE FIRST PART OF FOREST OAKS LANE AND PIN, OAK AND PIN OAK COURT.
UH, DUE TO WEATHER LAST YEAR, IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO COMPLETE, BUT ONCE IT WAS COMPLETED, THE THING LOOKS EXCELLENT AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY PLEASED WITH THE WHAT'S THEIR NAME.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. BAKER? NO, SIR.
UH, THIS WEEKEND, THREE PS PEOPLE, PETS, AND PIPES STAY WARM.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO GET PRETTY CHILL AT THIS WEEKEND.
WE UNDERSTAND THE, UH, YES SIR.
THE STATE IS SAYING THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE TEENS IN, IN THE ANGLETON AREA, I HOPE THROUGH TUESDAY.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT.
UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, RI DON'T KNOW IF I SENT YOU A NOTE OR NOT, BUT COULD YOU REACH OUT TO TDOT AND FIND OUT WHAT THE HECK THEY'RE DOING WITH THE CROSS ARM THAT THEY JUST INSTALLED AT FM 2004 AND LAKE ROAD? THEY PUT THE WORLD'S LARGEST CROSS ARM AND WITH THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS IT, THAT PUTS THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON THE OPPOSITE LANES.
SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S JUST HUGE, RIGHT? 20 INCH, 30 24 INCH DIAMETER SHAFT THAT'S STICKING OUT INTO THAT INTERSECTION.
AND IT'S GOT TWO LIGHTS ON THE END OF IT.
IT PUTS 'EM ON THE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF LAKE ROAD AT THAT INTERSECTION.
IT JUST, IT, IT'S GONNA CREATE CHAOS.
WHEN THEY FLIP THOSE LIGHTS ON, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GOING IN THE WRONG LANE.
SO THAT'S WHY THE ISLANDS GET HIT BECAUSE THE LIGHTS ARE THE SAME THING ON GOING WEST.
BUT ANYWAY, JUST FIND OUT WHAT THEIR STORY IS.
THEY COME OFF, THEY COME OFF TOO.
THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
MODESTO, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, NO SIR.