Jun 15, 2026 City Council

[*A portion of this meeting is without audio]

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[1. Discuss a citizen request for the possibility of a public safety program or educational initiative focused on e-bike and e-scooter safety. – Jerri Yenne ]

THIS ISN'T JUST A KID.

WE HAVE A KID SAFETY TOWN.

BUT, BUT, UM, BUT A JUNIOR HIGH SAFETY TOWN, A HIGH SCHOOL SAFETY COLLEGE, THE KIDS AT THE COLLEGE, THEY HAVE NO IDEA TRULY WHAT A SCOOTER WRECK WOULD BE.

THEY'RE RIDING A MOTORCYCLE WITH NO PROTECTION.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.

SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP PAUL, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT PROGRAM.

THAT'S ALMOST PART OF THE COMMUNITY THING THAT HERE, LOOK, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TO CRITICIZE YOU OR CRITICIZE YOUR PARENTING OR YOUR DECISIONS, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THEM THE SAFEST POSSIBLE SO THAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE PROTECTED.

AND SO I WAS JUST THINKING MAYBE IF WE COULD START THAT NOW AND GET PEOPLE INVOLVED AND SAY, LOOK, YEAH, THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERY FOUR MONTHS AT THE REC CENTER, THEY GIVE A PRESENTATION.

IT'S RECORDED, BUT, BUT IT'S A FAMILY EVENT WHERE THEY KNOW THE FAMILY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I LEARNED, I NEVER KNEW THAT.

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YOU'RE KIDDING ME.

THAT COULD BE A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY.

WHAT, AT 10 MILES AN HOUR? IT CAN'T.

SO I'M JUST THROWING OUT TO YOU.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO SAY, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY, OUR CITY DECIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'D LIKE TO START SOMETHING AND PRIORITIZE.

THE EDUCATION ORDINANCES ARE GREAT, BUT THE OTHER, TO ME IS MORE BENEFICIAL.

MS. DENEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR JUST KAREN ENOUGH TO REALLY COME MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

EVEN.

I, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN THE KIDS ON THE E-BIKES, ON THE SIDEWALKS, AND I SAW 'EM GOING DOWN MEDICAL DRIVE THE OTHER DAY, TWO, TWO ON THE SAME BIKE WITH NO ELEMENTS, NO NOTHING.

UM, AND I DO THINK IT IS A PARTNERSHIP OF EDUCATING NOT ONLY THE KIDS, BUT THE PARENTS WHO'S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE IF THEY INJURE SOMEONE OR ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE IF THEY INJURE THEMSELVES.

UM, I THINK YOU GAVE US, I WROTE DOWN QUITE A FEW NOTES HERE OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT EDUCATION AND GETTING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS A BETTER FIRST STEP PROBABLY THAN RESTRICTIONS AND RULES.

UM, SO LET US WORK ON THEM AND THANK YOU.

YEAH, MEREDITH, LET, UM, LAURA MARIA, MISS REACHED OUT TO ME, UM, UH, LAST WEEK.

AND, UH, LAURA HAS TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS AND SHE'S FOUND, YOU KNOW, UM, AAA HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, A EDUCATION, UH, BROCHURE.

UM, BUT WE WERE THINKING MORE OF A WEB PAGE, LANDING PAGE, OR A SOCIAL MEDIA POST.

WE TALKED TO THE PD AND ALSO PARKS AND RECREATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO EDUCATION POP UP OR SOMETHING AT, WE HAVE NUMEROUS EVENTS WHERE KIDS ARE AT.

THERE MAY BE MATERIAL AND STUFF THAT WE CAN PASS ON OR DO SOMETHING LIKE A VIDEO, UH, UH, SOMETHING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SEE IF WE CAN EDUCATE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

OTHER THAN THAT, IN ADDITION TO, UH, A WEB OR SOCIAL MEDIA POST, UM, UH, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT TOUCHING TRUCK, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO DO SOMETHING.

YEAH.

THE EASTER EGG HUNT, WE COULD PUT THAT IN EVERY EASTER EGG WHERE YOUR HOME, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, , MAYBE SOME OF OUR STORES.

THEY WOULD LOVE THAT.

INSTEAD OF CANDY , MAYBE SOME OF OUR STORES WOULD DONATE SOMETHING FOR KIDS TO HAVE IT.

WE COME BACK WITH A WATER BOTTLE.

IT SAYS SAFETY FIRST.

SOMETHING THAT INVESTS IN IN IT.

I THINK ROBIN JUST SINGLE HANDED.

AND MAYBE WE CAN GET A, I'M JUST THE NEW PACK GROUP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE KIDS, THE VIDEO GROUP.

THEY CAN COME SET UP A GOOD IDEA OR SEEN THEY, SINCE THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND WITH VIDEO, THEY CAN GET, GET INVOLVED AND THEY CAN VIDEO SOME STUFF AND DO SOME STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LEADING THAT PROGRAM OFF.

ALSO IDEA OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ANYBODY ELSE, STUDY GROUP.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

DO WHAT? INDEPENDENT STUDY GROUP FOR THE VIDEO TECHNOLOGY.

MM-HMM .

THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

YEAH.

LIKE THAT.

AND IT MATTERS TO PEOPLE THAT THE CITY CARES.

IT STILL MATTERS.

I I KNOW THEY CARE ABOUT THAT.

I'M, I DON'T GET HURT.

IT STILL MATTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WHEN SOMEBODY AND YOUR CITY CARES ENOUGH TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU HURT, COME ON.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW TO STAY SAFE AND HAVE FUN AT THE SAME TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

YES.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. WE'LL FOLLOW UP BACK WITH YOU.

UM, I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO AND THANK YOU FOR PUBLIC BEING PUBLIC SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S PTSD FOR ME.

THANK YOU, .

THANK YOU ALL VARIETY.

[2. Approve a contract with Johnson Controls to replace the chiller and other HVAC equipment at the municipal court building and replace the aeration blowers at the wastewater treatment plant in an amount not to exceed $5,142,896. – Eric Wilson ]

THAT'S THE PRICE TAG.

AND ERIC HAS GOT YOUR NAME BY IT.

WELL, ERIC IS, UH, COMING UP, UH, I'LL FRAME THE SUBJECT 'CAUSE HE CAN TALK MOSTLY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE BLOW OF THE BLOWER SIDE, UH, THE EQUATION IN THERE AND THEN THE CHIEF CAN CHIME IN OR GARY ON, UH, THE CHILL THE CHILLER SIDE.

UM, BUT, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, MONTHS AGO WE HAD REACHED OUT, UM, LENE AND JOHNSON CONTROLS, UH, OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH, UH, A PROJECT FOR THIS UNDER, UM, THEIR, UM, PROCUREMENT, UH, PROCESS AND WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

AND WE WERE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK IT MAY HAVE STARTED ON ONE PROJECT OR THE OTHER, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS BOTH OF 'EM, BUT WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING.

AND THESE TWO SEEMED TO BE ELIGIBLE TO REALLY, TO WORK WELL UNDER THIS, UH, PRO PROGRAM, UM, ON THE CHILLER UNIT, UM, THAT IS BEING

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AND UM, THE OTHER EQUIPMENT IS WORKING OUT OF THE UTILITY, UH, UTILITY BOND AND A $800,000 PROJECT THAT WAS IN THE, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.

SO IT'S BEEN FUNDED FROM THREE SOURCES, UH, ON THERE, BUT IT'S TWO PROJECTS.

YES.

THIS IS A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT, UH, WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS.

THIS IS, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CMAR AND, AND LEMME BACK UP A SECOND.

WE HAVE, UH, A DEISHA AND TONY JONES HERE WITH US FROM JCI TONIGHT TO WALK US THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND GIVE US SOME HIGH LEVEL DETAILS ON THE PROJECT, HOW WE GOT HERE.

UH, COUNCIL HAS APPROVED SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE ALSO HELPED US GET HERE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE HAR CART BEFORE THE HORSE, LET ME BRING, UH, A LIAM UP HERE AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A, A OVERVIEW OF THE WHOLE THING.

THANK YOU ERIC.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS TIA, I'M HERE WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS.

UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR I KNOW, UH, CITY MANAGER MUNDO ASKED ME TO PRESENT ALONG WITH ERIC.

SO I'LL TRY AND NOT TAKE TOO MUCH TIME TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF BOTH THE PROJECT ITS COMPONENTS AND SOME OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO GET HERE TODAY.

UM, JUST A QUICK REMINDER, IF YOU REMEMBER IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER OF 2025, YOU APPROVED A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH ALLOWED US TO ENTER THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND TO ADDRESS BOTH COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT.

ONE COMPONENT BEING THE DYSON CAMPBELL WATER RECLAMATION BLOWER COMPONENT AND THE OTHER BEING AT THE JOHN DEWEY JUSTICE CENTER, WHICH IS PRIMARILY IN HVAC AND CONTROLS PROJECT.

UH, IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR.

IN AN EFFORT TO EXPEDITE THE EQUIPMENT LEAD TIMES THAT HAVE JUST GROWN REALLY LONG SINCE COVID AND OTHER THINGS, YOU AMENDED THAT PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR US TO PUT THAT DELIVERY IN PLACE.

THERE WERE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH OF THOSE AMENDMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT AT THE OUTS THAT THE NUMBER YOU'RE SEEING TODAY IS INCLUSIVE OF THAT.

SO THOSE AMOUNTS ARE NOT AN ADDITION TO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PART OF THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY.

UM, AND THOSE AMOUNT TO APPROXIMATELY 335,000 AND CHANGE, BASICALLY $336,000, BUT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT AMOUNT HERE TODAY.

SO WHEN WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS, WE ENGAGED WITH CITY MANAGER, UM, AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER EA AS WELL, TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THE BOOKS THAT THEY WERE HOPING TO GET DONE HERE AT THE CITY.

UM, AND HAVING SOME EXPERIENCE, BOTH AS ERIC MENTIONED, HAVING DONE A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER EA AS WELL.

THEY SUGGESTED THAT THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PROJECTS AND REALLY TO EXPEDITE THEM, BUT WITHOUT COMPROMISING QUALITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET CUSTOMIZED FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO ACHIEVE, BOTH AT THE POLICE STATION AND AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY.

OH, THANK YOU.

PERFECT.

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SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME OF JUST THE BENEFITS OF PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING.

FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR.

UM, GENERALLY THAT CONCEPT OF PERFORMANCE CONTRACT IS GAUGED AROUND DOING SOME PROJECTS THAT WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT THEM YOU DO WITH A MINDSET OF SOME LEVEL OF ACHIEVING EFFICIENCIES.

AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT IS THAT THE LONGER TERM YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT YOUR OPERATIONAL COSTS, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COMPONENTS AND YOUR UTILITY SPEND ARE SOMETHING YOU THINK ABOUT.

SO YOU'RE NOT JUST PUTTING IN SOMETHING TODAY THAT WON'T FIT WELL AND IN THE LONGER TERM YOU SEE YOUR UTILITY COSTS GOING UP BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT ISN'T GREAT EQUIPMENT FOR THE NEEDS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS WITH THIS WAS WE'VE GOT TWO VERY DISTINCT PROJECTS.

SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THEM? SO PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING AS A WHOLE TYPICALLY DEALS WITH PROJECTS WHERE YOU'RE TOUCHING DIFFERENT SITES ACROSS A COUNTY OR CITY THAT CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, LOOKING AT A WASTEWATER PROJECT AND ALSO LOOKING AT AN HVAC PROJECT IS NOT OUT OF THE NORM.

THIS TAX OR PROJECT.

ADDITIONALLY, PERFORMANCE CONTRACTING LOOKS AT EVERYTHING AS TURNKEY.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE BRING OUR OWN MANPOWER.

SO FOR A CITY LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS, WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM FORWARD, BUT THE DESIGN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION ARE COMBINED INTO ONE.

AND SO WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH DIRECTOR WILSON OR WITH THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM TO LOOK AT A PROJECT AND HOW TO FIX THEIR NEEDS, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? HOW DO WE SOLVE THE SPECIFIC PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? BUT WE DO IT WITH THE DESIGN AND INSTALL TOGETHER IN MIND.

SO THERE IS NO POINT WE GET TO THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, WELL WHATEVER THEY DESIGN DOESN'T FIT IN THIS PARTICULAR SPACE.

IT REMOVES ALL THE FINGER POINTING AWAY FROM THIS SORT OF DYNAMIC OF ALL OF THIS THAT RESULTS IN ANOTHER BENEFIT TO THE CITY, WHICH IS RISK TRANSFER.

SO THE PRICE THAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOES WRONG BASED ON THE DESIGN THAT WE'VE PUT

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AND SO THE ONLY WAY A CHANGE ORDER HAPPENS IS IF THERE IS A SCOPE CHANGE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROACTIVELY NEED TO HAPPEN BY THE CITY THAT, OH, WE WANT TO INCLUDE THIS THING IN THE PROJECT THAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

UM, FROM A PARTNERSHIP PER PERSPECTIVE, THAT TERM IS USED VERY LOOSELY, BUT I THINK WHAT'S THE REALLY THE, THE MAGIC OF A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMIZATION.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE'VE HAD BIWEEKLY MEETINGS WITH BOTH OF THESE TEAMS. WE'VE ALSO SAT THROUGH INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AND DONE SITE VISITS WITH TEAMS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS FUNCTION, WHAT ARE THE PAIN POINTS AND HOW CAN WE REALLY CUSTOMIZE THEM TO MEET THE NEEDS, NOT BOTH OF TODAY, BUT TO FUTURE PROOF THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS LIKE THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, ANYTHING WE'RE IMPLEMENTING, ANYTHING WE'RE DOING SETS THEM UP AND DOESN'T NEED TO BE RIP AND REPLACED IN THE FUTURE BASED ON THE ULTIMATE GOALS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO THIS DYNAMIC ALLOWS FOR A CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND ULTIMATELY WE DO ALL OF IT WITH AN EYE TOWARDS ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

UM, AND IN THE CASE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, MAKING SURE THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR TCEQ AND OTHER PIECES ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE FOR AS WELL.

EXCELLENT.

SO THIS IS ALMOST JUST A DIFFERENT, UH, WAY OF LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN A PC PROJECT, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT AND SOME OTHER TYPICAL AND MORE TRADITIONAL ASPECTS OF BUILDING OUT OR CONSTRUCTION.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ON THE RIGHT, ALL OF THE COMPONENTS FROM DESIGN ALL THE WAY THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION ARE COMBINED INTO THIS ONE DYNAMIC PROCESS THAT WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH TOGETHER OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

UM, AND KIND OF PUT THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.

ONE OTHER THING ON HERE IS THAT ALSO THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE ABLE TO ACCELERATE IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE ACTIVELY ENGAGED.

UM, AND I HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH BOTH OF THE TEAMS. THEY'VE BOTH WORKED WITH US AND PROVIDED REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND GIVEN US THEIR THOUGHTS ON THEIR ISSUES AND THE THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO SOLVE FOR SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT WE'RE PRESENTING ARE GOOD PROJECTS AND REALLY MEET THE NEEDS FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS A BIG OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE SCOPE IS OVERALL.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE JUSTICE CENTER PROJECT IS ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE AND THEN THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AT A HIGH LEVEL IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE, WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING A CHILLER THREE OF THE AIR HANDLING UNITS IN THE FACILITY AS WELL.

UM, THEY'RE GETTING SOME NEW PUMPS.

THERE'S ALSO A VARIETY OF VALVES GETTING REPLACED THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

UH, BASED ON AN UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT CHIEF CUPID AND UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF LANGFORD HAD WITH THE CURRENT CONTROL SYSTEM AND THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE EQUIPMENT AND SOME FINGER POINTING THAT WAS GOING ON, WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BE ABLE TO DELIVER A NEW CONTROL SYSTEM FOR BASICALLY THE SAME PRICE THAT QUOTES WERE COMING IN PREVIOUSLY.

SO THAT WAS A VALUE ADD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING, UM, AND ALSO CREATE A CONTINGENCY IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL NEEDS FOR FAN COOL UNITS OR PIPING THAT MAY NEED TO GET REPLACED.

BUT IF THOSE DON'T NEED TO GET REPLACED AS PROJECT ACTUALLY HAS A CONTINGENCY COMPONENT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED AT THE JUSTICE CENTER FOR IT TO BE UTILIZED FOR.

AND WE HOPE THAT WILL BE THE CASE.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'RE SEEING THE WAVE OF WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.

UM, AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE 2, 2, 2 200 HORSEPOWER BLOWERS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN THERE.

UM, IN AN EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE INEFFICIENT ENERGY EFFICIENCY, BUT ALSO DELIVER THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF AIR TO THE BASINS, THERE ARE TWO VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVES THAT ARE BEING PUT IN.

AND THIS IS WHERE LIKE SOME OF THE INSTALL COMPONENTS AND THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OF THE HEAT IN THE REGULAR FACILITY, WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN THE ELECTRICAL ROOM AND ACCOMMODATING FOR THEM THERE.

THEY'RE ALSO GETTING A FULL NEW CONTROL SYSTEM, WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS AND REGULATES THE AIR THAT'S GOING TO THESE BASINS.

SO THERE IS EFFECTIVELY THREE BASINS AND EACH OF THOSE BASINS HAVE THREE SENSORS.

SO IT'S UH, ZONES, SO A TOTAL OF NINE ZONES.

SO THERE'LL BE SENSORS IN ALL OF THOSE ZONES TO DETERMINE WHAT THE LEVELS ARE AND SET POINTS TO ADEQUATELY BE, UH, FACILITATING WHAT THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY SHOULD BE DOING.

OVERALL, THIS IS AS I'M SURE ERIC WILL TELL YOU, A BIG DEPARTURE FROM WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, WHICH IS PRIMARILY A MANUAL SYSTEM OVERALL AND I THINK PUTS THEM IN A REALLY GOOD FOOTING TO GO FORWARD, UM, AS THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY INCLUDES MORE TOWARD AN AUTOMATED FACILITY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SO LASTLY, THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE TOUCH POINTS ON THE PROJECT.

AS MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT INPUT FROM THE CITY OVERALL, I THINK WE'VE WORKED REALLY WELL AND THERE'S A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE, AT LEAST FROM OUR END, THAT THE PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED IN THEIR DETAIL WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OVERALL.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S SORT OF THE SPLIT FOR THE TWO PROJECTS, BUT IT'S INCLUSIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND THE, UH, COST FOR EXPEDITING THE ORDER OF THE EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND IT WILL LEAD TO OTHER BENEFITS AS WELL BESIDES JUST WHAT THE BASIS OF A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT IS.

SOME CONSIDERATIONS IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF THE WORK ENVIRONMENT AT THE JUSTICE CENTER WHEN THE HVAC IS WORKING PROPERLY WITH THE CONTROL SYSTEM,

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UM, AND ON THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, IT REALLY SETS THEM UP IN A GOOD POSITION TO MOVE TOWARDS A MUCH MORE AUTOMATED FACILITY THAT WILL BE MORE REFLECTIVE, I THINK, OF OTHER CITIES AND THE WAY THEY'RE MOVING TO, TO ENSURE THEY'RE MEETING REGULATIONS AND HAVING THE TEAM FOCUS MORE ON SOME OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THERE.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR, FOR TALKING THAT MUCH, BUT UH, I THINK THAT'S START TO FINISH.

WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? SO FOR THE HVAC COMPONENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THE THE, THE TIMELINES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THE DATES YOU'RE SEEING ON THE BOTTOM THERE I WOULD SAY ARE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE OUTSIDE DATES.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PULL THEM IN A LITTLE BIT.

SO INSTALL WILL PROBABLY START IN SEPTEMBER, UM, AT THE, AT THE POLICE FACILITY.

I DON'T IMAGINE THAT WILL TAKE MORE THAN TWO TO THREE MONTHS TO GET COMPLETED.

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING, UM, BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR, THAT SHOULD BE DONE, EASILY BE DONE BY THEN.

AND THEN FOR THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, IT'S A LONGER TIMELINE.

IT'S STARTING IN APRIL OR MAY.

AND I THINK THAT INSTALL COULD TAKE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, NOT SIX.

THEY'RE BOTH OUTSIDE DATES.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A START DATES THERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE DATES, YEAH, SO YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS ON EACH ONE, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS? I WOULD SAY THREE MONTHS ON THE FIRST ONE AND MAYBE CLOSER TO FOUR OR FIVE ON THE ONE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

SURE.

UM, ON YOUR DESCRIPTION OF INSTALL PRODUCTS, YOU HAVE A WARRANTY BREAKDOWN OF FIVE YEARS OR BASED OFF OF SHIP DATE, IF WE AGREE TO THIS TODAY, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

WHEN DOES YOUR WARRANTY PERIOD START FOR US? OKAY.

SO FOR THE BLOWER? YEAH.

YEAH, FOR THE BLOWER.

WELL, YOU GOT FIVE YEARS ON SOME ITEMS, 30 MONTHS FROM SHIP DATE DOOR, 24, THEN YOUR PUMPS.

I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED ON THE PUMP WARRANTY.

I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHO YOU'RE USING NOW.

YEAH, I CAN, I I KNOW THE BIG ONE WAS THE, THE BLOWER ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SIDE.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A, A QUESTION THAT, UH, DIRECTOR WILSON BROUGHT UP.

SO WE ACTUALLY WILL BE ABLE TO REACH OUT.

WE REACHED OUT TO THE DISTRIBUTOR.

SO I THINK THE NEW TIMELINE IS GONNA BE 30, 30 MONTHS FROM STARTUP.

AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WHEN WE START UP THAT BLOWER FOR THE FIRST TIME WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF STARTUP IS WHEN THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE.

SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT 30 MONTHS FROM STARTUP ON THE BLOWER AND DIRECTOR WILSON.

CORRECT.

30 MONTHS FROM STARTUP ON BLOWER AND NOT SHIPPING PURCHASED UP TO FIVE YEARS.

YES.

WE, WE EXTENDED IT AND THEN, AND THEN WE BOUGHT TWO A TWO, UH, THREE YEAR EXTENSION.

SO YOU GOT A TOTAL OF FIVE YEARS EFFECTIVELY FROM STARTUP OF THE BLOWER.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOUR PUMP BREAKDOWN OF WARRANTY, I WAS VERY SURPRISED BY, AND I AM TRYING TO FIND IT AS WELL, , I APOLOGIZE.

UH, WELL, THE, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONTROL SYSTEM HAD A ONE YEAR AND OUR YORK PRODUCTS FOR THE JOHN DEWEY ON THE AIR HANDLERS ONLY HAD A ONE YEAR.

UH, I WAS KIND OF SU KIND OF SURPRISED.

THAT'S TYPICAL.

IT'S TYPICAL ONE YEAR.

YEAH.

ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR MANUFACTURER, NOT COMMERCIAL IS PRETTY TYPICAL ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE INDUSTRY FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.

I INSTALLED A FEW UP IN HOUSTON.

THEY WERE ALL THREE YEARS IS WHY I ASKED.

I CAN, I'LL LOOK INTO IT.

I'M JUST, I'M SURPRISED BY THAT.

ESPECIALLY ON A MUNICIPALITIES ESTABLISHMENT.

NOT HIGH, NOT A HIGH RES OR A HIGH COMMERCIAL, UH, PLACE.

I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED BY, I KNOW WE, WE JUST DID SOME WORK IN FORT BEND AND AT ENERGY PARK IN HARRIS COUNTY AS WELL AND THE MANUFACTURER WAS A YEAR ON BOTH.

YEAH.

IT DOESN'T HURT ALWAYS TO INQUIRE.

YEAH, I JUST, YEAH, AND I MEAN FOR, WE CAN, IF WE CAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO DO, IT'S THE SAME THING WE DID WITH THE BLOWER AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK IT HURTS.

SO HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

I I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND HE STOLE MY QUESTION ABOUT THE WARRANTY.

YEAH.

THE, THIS THE SAME ON THE CHILLER.

THE CHILLER ALSO HAS THE FIVE, FIVE-YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTY ON CHILLER BEGINNING ON DATE OF CHILLER START UP OR 18 MONTHS FROM DATE OF CHILLER SHIPMENT, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST.

YEAH.

THAT'S BASED THAT WE'RE, WE'LL EVEN WITHIN AGREEMENT TODAY AND WHATNOT, YOU HAVE OUR SERIAL NUMBERS HERE ALREADY.

THAT START DATE IS FROM WHEN YOU TURN IT OVER TO US.

CORRECT.

NOT 18 MONTHS.

CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT IS RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND I, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, BECAUSE I, I SEE YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS ON A LOT OF THIS EQUIPMENT, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE IT IN POSSESSION.

NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN POSSESSION.

WE HAVE SERIAL NUMBER BEFORE FOR THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL MODEL TYPE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

WELL, YOU HAVE MODEL NUMBER.

YOU HAVE MODEL, BUT YOU HAVE SERIAL NUMBER, SERIAL NUMBER DICTATING.

SO FOR THE THREE LAW THREE, A VERY UNIQUE ITEM FOR THE, FOR THE HVAC UNITS, UH, I'M UNDER YOUR HANDLERS RIGHT NOW AND I'M ON A FEW OTHER ITEMS. YEAH, YOUR SE YOU HAVE SE SERIAL NUMBERS ON YOUR CHILLERS.

YOU HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS.

YEAH, I CAN CHECK.

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IF THAT 18 MONTHS KICKS ON BEFORE YOU'RE DONE WITH THE PRODUCT.

MY WARRANTY STARTS BEFORE WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE PRODUCT.

SO I CAN I, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO ORDER THE EQUIPMENT AHEAD OF TIME.

YEAH.

I SO THE SERIAL NUMBER MAY EXIST BECAUSE THEY'VE LOGGED IT INTO THE SYSTEM WHILE THE EQUIPMENT IS BEING CREATED.

CHECK.

OKAY.

BUT WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT OTHERWISE EVEN I WOULD NOT WANT WAIT TILL SEPTEMBER.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I I DIDN'T WANNA GET CAUGHT IN THE LOOP.

'CAUSE WE COULD HAVE A REALLY FUN SUMMER AND THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHY ARE WE DOING THIS IF WE HAVE TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING KIND OF THING.

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE TO BE, I WANNA BE STUCK WITH THAT.

YEAH.

IF WE HAD 'EM, WE WOULD BE INSTALLING INSTALLING.

OH YEAH.

WHICH, WHICH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I, I SEE MANUFACTURER, I SEE MODEL NUMBER AND I SEE SERIAL NUMBER IN THERE 99.9 TIME.

I MEAN, EVEN CARS, YOU DON'T GET SERIAL NUMBERS FOR 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU GET THE VEHICLE.

'CAUSE THEY ARE BEING MANUFACTURED.

SERIAL NUMBERS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CHASSIS.

YEAH.

BUT MY WARRANTY DOESN'T START EVEN IF IT SITS ON THE LOT FOR FOUR YEARS UNTIL I PURCHASE THAT CAR WITH THE WORDING IN YOUR CONTRACT, IT'S SAYING, HEY, IF YOU'VE RECEIVED IT, IT HAS THAT FIVE YEAR STARTS, 18 MONTHS POST TO YOU RECEIVING IT NOT LANDED TO THE CUSTOMER IN 18 MONTHS.

AND I AM, I A HUNDRED PERCENT TELL YOU THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT.

I THINK MAYBE A SERIAL NUMBER IS GENERATED UNLESS TONY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S PUT IN THE SYSTEM.

I GOT YOU.

BUT EVEN IF IT REQUIRES AN, AN ADDENDUM OR SOMETHING FROM US FORMALLY STATING WE DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING THE EQUIPMENT.

IT'S OUR WARRANTY.

IT'S OUR WARRANTY WARRANTY.

I'M WORRIED JUST START UNTIL WE TURN STUFF ON.

A HUNDRED PERCENT NOT, NOT WHEN IT'S GETS SHIPPED FROM SOMEWHERE.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP TOO.

I I WOULD NOT WANT TO PUT YOU IN THAT POSITION EITHER.

SO, AND THE, THE REASON I COME TO THAT CONCLUSION IS THESE AREN'T EXACTLY ONE IN A MILLION UNITS.

THESE ARE PRETTY NOT CUT AND DRY UNIT LIKE I USE IN MY HOUSE.

BUT THIS ISN'T ONE FOR A STADIUM YOU'RE TALKING THAT GOT BUILT FOR FIVE YEARS, SO GOT IT.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, LIKE YES, THE SERIAL NUMBER WAS ASSOCIATED NINE YEARS AGO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE 10,000 MAN HOURS TO GO INTO IT.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STREAMLINED UNIT THAT'S PRODUCED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THAT'S WHAT MADE ME NERVOUS ABOUT THE SERIAL NUMBER.

NO, I, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT.

I DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

ADDRESS THAT AND GET BACK WITH CITY MANAGER MONDAY.

THANK YOU.

BUT, AND, AND SOME OF THE OPTIONALITY RELATED TO EVEN THE SELECTION OF THE BLOWER, FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOKED AT A AND KAISER ATLAS COPCO MM-HMM .

WE DID LIKE A FOUR PAGE MATRIX AND WARRANTY WAS A LARGE PART OF IT.

SO EVEN THE WARRANTIES ON THE BLOWER SIDE ACTUALLY HAD SOME VARIABILITY TO YOUR POINT.

OH YEAH, NO, I'VE SEEN, AND I KNOW THAT DIRECTOR, UH, WILSON SPECIFICALLY LIKED AZEN, WHICH IS THE ONE WE ENDED UP CHOOSING BECAUSE OF A MORE EXTENDED STYLE WARRANTY.

SO I THINK IT'S RESPECT COMPLETELY VALID.

AND, AND IMPORTANT QUESTION AS WE, AS WE LOOKED AT THIS EVEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROCESS, MY LAST WARRANTY QUESTION, I PROMISE.

SURE.

YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE IT STATED IN HERE, YOU KNOW, ALL ITEMS ARE CONDITIONAL ON US MAINTAINING IT TO CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT OR IS THIS GONNA BE BASED OFF OF OEM MANUFACTURER'S CONTRACT OF HOW YOU WANT MAINTAINED OR OFF OF JOHNSON CONTROL'S CONTRACT OF HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN IT? I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE ETHOS HERE IS IF THERE IS NO MA REGULAR MAINTENANCE DONE ON IT.

OKAY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE PROVIDE A, UH, THIS IS HOW YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN IT.

I THINK IT IS ON THE OEM OKAY.

SIDE OF IT.

OKAY.

SO THAT THEY HAVE A VERY CLEAR PICTURE AS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED.

TO THAT POINT THOUGH, SERVICE WAS A COMPONENT THAT RICK NIE AND DIRECTOR WILSON LOOKED AT AS WELL.

I KNOW SERVICE WAS A COMPONENT OF THE HVAC SIDE AS WELL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SERVICE REQUIRED.

SO EVEN LIKE FILTER CHANGES OTHER MAINTENANCE.

YEAH, YEAH.

IT WASN'T GETTING SO COMPLICATED THAT IT WOULD BE HARD TO MAINTAIN IT AT THAT LEVEL.

MAINTAIN THESE YEAH.

AND THE ERRORS IN SELECTION WAS ACTUALLY PARTIALLY BASED ON THAT COMPONENT AS WELL.

SO I DON'T THINK FROM OUR CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD SOME LARGE CONCERNS.

I THINK WE TALKED THROUGH SERVICE, UH, AS WELL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED YES SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

AWESOME.

AND UH, I KNOW I'M NEW MAN.

I'M SORRY.

I FEEL I'M, I I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT I MISSED THAT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SCOPE BECAUSE, UH, WE DID COME BACK ON THE WARRANTY ISSUES AND, AND SENT THEM BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER TO CHANGE THE WORDING BECAUSE IT WAS FROM THE ORIGINAL WAS FROM THE TIME IT WAS RECEIVED.

AND THEN THAT WAS CHANGED TO START UP WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE DONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THE BLOWERS GET TURNED ON.

SO THAT MADE THE 30 MONTHS AND EXTENDING OUT TO FIVE YEARS A BETTER OPTION FOR YOU.

SEE, UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

COUNCILMAN UNEES THOUGH ON THE CHILLER, I MEAN ON A NORMAL AIR AIR CONDITIONER WE PUT ON OUR ROOFTOP, I THINK A YEAR IS PROBABLY STANDARD, UH, ON A CHILLER.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT, IS THERE, IF IT IS STANDARD FOR ONE YEAR, IS THERE EVER THAT POSSIBILITY, LIKE YOU, WE'VE DONE ON THE OTHER ONES TO LOOK AT A COST FOR AN EXTENDED WARRANTY? THERE ALWAYS IS THAT, AND I THINK FIRST WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE'LL I'LL, WE'LL JUST ASK TO SEE WHAT THE WARRANTY TERMS ARE AND IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY ALSO ASK FOR THE EXTENDED WARRANTY AMOUNT.

HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK TO, YEAH.

'CAUSE ONE ONE YEAR ON THAT PRICE TAG

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YEAH.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING TO RELOAD THE BRIDGE AND RELEARN HOW TO TURN A TIRE, BUT THE, THE MENTALITY OF IT, THIS NOT BEING A HIGH AIR FLOW SCENARIO.

I MEAN, YOU SEE THE C FM WE'RE TALKING HERE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PUSHING A QUARTER MILLION CFM BY ANY MEANS.

NO, FOR SURE.

SO THE MENTALITY OF IT BEING A LOW USE AND OUR BUDGET ISN'T 44 BILLION A YEAR BY ANY MEANS.

SO, AND HAVING, HAVING THAT, HAVING THAT INSURANCE FROM YOU GUYS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COVER THOSE BASES IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PESTERING YOU ABOUT, TO BE HONEST.

NO, AND, AND I COMPLETELY GET THAT.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M MEANT TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR YOU WITHIN THE PROJECT.

SO I'LL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US COMING BACK TO YOU .

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE MENTALITY WE HAVE IS PARTNERSHIPS, IS PARTNERSHIP WHERE IT'S NOT A ONE WAY ROAD.

THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT.

MS. SCOTT, GUESS WHERE I'M CONFUSED HERE.

I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING HOW COMBINING SUCH A DIVERSE GROUP OF PROJECTS UNDER ONE IS IMPORTANT EFFICIENCY OR REDUCING COST.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? SURE MORE.

I WILL, I WILL GIVE YOU MORE TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT I'M GONNA ALSO CHANNEL PART OF MY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MIA, BASED ON ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD HERE.

SO IF WE WERE TO DO THEM SEPARATELY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DIDN'T DO THEM WHERE THE DESIGN AND THE INSTALL WERE CONSIDERED ONE, AS THEY WERE BEING EACH BEING ADDRESSED, YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO GET QUOTES, HIRE A, GET A SOLICITATION, HAVE SOMEONE DO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DESIGN AND SUBSEQUENTLY BRING ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE INSTALL JUST FOR THE HVAC SIDE IN ONE THEORY SEPARATELY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT, FIND SOMEONE TO DO A PIECE OF THIS FOR THE DESIGN AND THEN GET SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE INSTALL AS WELL IF THEY FOLLOWED THE TRADITIONAL METHODOLOGY AND HOPE THAT THEY WERE RIGHT WHEN WE INSTALLED IT.

CORRECT.

AND THEN YOU COULD ALSO HAVE INSTALL, BLAMING, DESIGN, EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT IT ALSO TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT FROM THE CITIES TO CREATE THOSE SOLICITATIONS, PUSH THEM OUT, HAVE, UH, FOR THE SIX MONTHS, BY NO MEANS HAVE I NOT BEEN PESTERING DIRECTOR WILSON.

AND BY NO MEANS HAVE THEY NOT BEEN PROVIDING A TON OF INFORMATION TO US AS IT RELATES TO THIS.

BUT IMAGINE IF YOU SPLIT THAT INTO NOW MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUESTING THE SAME INFORMATION AND TRYING TO CONVEY THE INFORMATION BETWEEN DESIGN AND INSTALL.

SO THE THEORY IS, IS THAT IF YOU CAN DO IT ALL TOGETHER, DESIGN AND INSTALL IN ONE, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THOSE INEFFICIENCIES THAT EXIST.

AND ALSO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING WHICH BLOWER SELECTION AND LOOKING AT WARRANTY AND LOOKING AT THE OTHER PIECES, BECAUSE WE HAD AN INSTALL GUY AT THE TABLE FROM OUR TEAM, WE WERE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW BIG IS THE PAD SITE, WHAT'S THE TEMPERATURE OF THAT ROOM? CAN IT FIT IN FROM AN INSTALL PERSPECTIVE? DO WE NEED TO MOVE THE VFDS FROM AN INSTALL SIDE TO THE ELECTRICAL ROOF SIDE? SO THOSE CONSIDERATIONS WEREN'T DISCOVERED SIX MONTHS DOWN THE LINE.

AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO THE DESIGN FOLKS TO BE LIKE, WHAT DID YOU DO HERE? THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

SO I THINK IT REALLY DID WORK HERE.

I THINK THERE WERE INSTANCES IN WHICH WE ENGAGED WITH THE CHIEF'S TEAM, FOR EXAMPLE, EARLY ON AND FOUND SOME EFFICIENCIES, FOR EXAMPLE, NOT REPLACING ALL THE FAN COOL UNITS AND PIPING TO NOW CREATE A CONTINGENCY BECAUSE IN OUR EXPERIENCE AND FROM OUR INSTALL FOLKS, THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE LASTING A LOT LONGER.

SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL THAT CONTINGENCY AND WE ACTUALLY GRAB SOME VALUE OUT OF THIS AND UTILIZE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.

AND I THINK THE SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME, BECAUSE WE HAD EVERYONE AT THE TABLE, DIDN'T ALSO COMPROMISE, UM, QUALITY BY ACCELERATING THE TIMELINE, UH, OVERALL.

BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE ABLE TO HAVE VERY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS, MORE EFFICIEN GET A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND SO I'M NOW GIVING YOU A, I'VE GIVEN YOU AN INEFFICIENT ANSWER TO A, SO WHERE IS THERE SYNERGY BETWEEN, UH, HVAC SYSTEM AND A BLOWER AND ALWAYS TREATMENT PLAN STILL BUILD TO SEE UP, SEE WHERE THERE'S SYNERGY BETWEEN THOSE TO LOWER FORWARD? NO, THAT, THAT IS MORE OF REFLECTION OF A PERFORMANCE CONTRACT COMPANY LIKE OURS.

SO WHEN I DO COUNTIES OR CITIES OR OTHER, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, I'M NEVER DOING ONE PERFORMANCE CONTRACTS ARE KNOWN TO BE DISPARATE PROJECTS.

THEY MAY TOUCH LIGHTING IN ONE BUILDING 20 MILES ACROSS THE COUNTY OR TOUCHING HVAC AND ANOTHER ARE WORKING ON WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES.

SO OUR TEAM IS MADE UP OF A GROUP OF EXPERTS THAT CAN HANDLE THAT VARIETY.

I ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY FOCUS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UM, IN, IN ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT I DO, CITIES AND COUNTIES.

AND SO THE WAY OUR PROJECTS ARE BUILT, WE HAVE THAT TEAM ALREADY READY TO GO, WHEREAS YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

OTHERWISE IT'S JUST, IT'S BUILT, IT'S IN OUR, IT'S IN OUR DNA IN OUR BLOOD.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT DIRECTOR WILSON CAN TALK ABOUT FROM, I THINK HE DID IT IN GAL CITY IN DALLAS.

AND I THINK, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER R HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IN LAREDO AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD MODEL.

I THINK.

SO I'M JUST STILL HAVING DIFFICULTY FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, SEEING THE SYNERGY LEADER'S DIGEST ANSWER SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT, SINGLE

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SO IT'S RESPONSIBLE PARTYING IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG ON SIDE.

SO IT IS STILL THAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ONE WHY GROUPING WASTE TREATMENT PLANT EQUIPMENT WITH HVAC SYSTEMS UNDER A SINGLE CONTRACT.

, THE, THE EXPEDITIOUS MANNER IN WHICH HE WAS DISCUSSING, UH, EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECT WE DID ON THE ISLAND WAS WATER METERS, 25,000 OF 'EM.

UH, SOME 300 PLUS HORSE MOTORS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND ALSO ATION AND LIGHTING AT CITY HALL.

YOU CAN'T GET MUCH MORE DIVERSE THAN THAT.

AND I THINK IT WAS AN $11 MILLION PROJECT BACK IN OH THREE.

UH, AND THE METERS TOOK THE LONGEST OUT OF IT AND IT WAS DONE COMPLETELY.

EVERYTHING CHANGED OUT THEN WHAT WAS 11 MONTHS? UH, SO IT WAS, IT, IT GOT US THERE FASTER.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, HITTING US FOR INFORMATION AT THESE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS.

AND ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE BECAUSE THE AERATION HAS TO HAVE OPERATIONAL DATA, BOTH I FLUENT EFFLUENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE REST OF OUR REGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND THEN THEY HAD TO HAVE PROCESS ENGINEERS DIAL IT IN.

THEY GAVE US FEEDBACK.

NO, BECAUSE THE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES FROM THE EPA HAS CHANGED INCOMING FLOWS AS PEOPLE REMODEL THEIR HOUSES AND THEY GO FROM FIVE GALLON TOILETS TO 1.25 TOILETS, THAT'S INCREASING THE STRENGTH OF THE FLOW STREAM THAT'S COMING TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

I NEED TO ALLOW FOR THAT.

AND WE HAD TO GO THROUGH MAKING IT FUTURE PROOF INSTEAD OF DESIGNING TO WHAT WE HAD IN 2004.

WE HAVE TO MAKE IT FOR WHAT WE'RE COMING, WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING IN THE FUTURE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S ROUNDABOUT TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT I PROFESSIONALLY DO SEE THE EFFICIENCIES DERIVED BY HAVING THAT SINGLE POINT DOCTOR PAST EXPERIENCES.

YES SIR.

IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, I THINK WHERE I'VE SEEN IT FROM AFAR, IT'S IT'S AT THIS STAGE AT THE PLANNING STAGE OF THE ENGINEERING AND YOU KNOW, AND THE DESIGN AND TALKING TO STAFF.

I MEAN ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, THERE'S NO SYNERGY.

NO.

THEY WILL BE RUN AT SEPARATE TIMES.

THEY'RE BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECTS.

IT'S ALL THE DESIGN WORK BEFORE, RATHER THAN US DEALING WITH TWO SEPARATE ENGINEERING FIRMS, DESIGNING TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS AND BIDDING THEM OUT AND STUFF.

IT'S REALLY ALL THE DESIGN THAT NOW WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH ONE FIRM WHO COULD DESIGN BOTH PROJECTS AND INSTALL AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE DESIGNING THEM AT THE SAME TIME WORKING ONE WITH THE PD AND THEN ONE WITH PUBLIC WORKS CUTS THAT COST ABOUT HALF OF ALL THE, AND GOING, GOING BACK TO LOOKING AT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

IF WE WERE TO DO DESIGN BID BUILD, OKAY, WE'RE GOING OUT FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGINEERING FIRMS. AND THAT PROCESS BEFORE WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR CONTRACT APPROVAL OR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE TWO TO THREE MONTHS.

THEN FROM THAT POINT WE GO INTO FINALIZING DESIGN DISCUSSIONS, WHICH IS ANOTHER THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT.

THEN IT WILL TAKE THEM A YEAR TO DESIGN IT.

THEN WE GO OUT TO BID, WHICH IS THAT PROCESS IN AND OF ITSELF IS ANOTHER THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.

WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND PROVE THE CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO WE'RE COMPRESSING ALL OF THAT, EVEN AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH US KICKING OFF IN UH, 27.

THAT'S A LITTLE OVER A YEAR FROM NOW, WHICH IS VERY ACCELERATED FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT .

AND THEN YOU GOTTA INSTALL IT AND THE INSTALLERS DON'T LIKE WHAT THE DESIGNERS DID OR IT DOESN'T WORK IN SOME PROBLEM.

AND THEN YOU NOW AGAIN, I MEAN CHANGE ORDERS, THIS IS NEW FOR US.

WE'VE DONE IT THE WAY THAT ERIC HAS JUST SPENT.

THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DO IT.

BUT ERIC AND R HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE OF USING CMR. SO WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH PERFORMANCE, PERFORMANCE, I'M SORRY, PERFORMANCE CON, WE, WE SIT DOWN WITH A VARIETY OF PROJECTS AND WE THOUGHT THESE WERE THE TWO, ONE WAS VERY PRESSING, UH, AND AC AS A, THESE WERE THE TWO THAT COULD, COULD WORK.

AND SO THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME TO HAVE DONE THIS.

SO COULD I BE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE'LL NEVER DO IT AGAIN? THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY.

I HOPE NOT.

, YOU'VE DONE IT, BUT YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE.

WELL I SAY I'VE NEVER DONE A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

YOU'VE NEVER DONE, YOU'VE DONE ALL THIS BEFORE.

YES, AND I'VE DONE PROJECTS BEFORE, BUT I'VE NEVER DONE A PROJECT WITH THIS APPROACH BY GROUPING DIVERSE THINGS.

SO YOU AND I WILL NEED TO HOLD HANDS TOGETHER , BECAUSE I'M NOT EITHER.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT 'CAUSE IT ALWAYS GETS ON MY NERVES HOW

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SO I LIKE THE CONCENTRATION OF THE INFORMATION.

ONE, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT TO MR. JUNE'S POINT IS THAT WHATEVER, GET US THE BEST WARRANTY.

'CAUSE THE YEAR SEEMS REALLY LIGHT AND THEN OUR CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN TO WHERE IT REFLECTS ALL OF THOSE CHANGES.

NOT ALL OF THOSE, BUT THE CHANGES WITH THE WARRANTY AND WHEN THE WARRANTY STARTS, IT CANNOT STAY, SAY FROM SHIP DATE.

IT NEEDS TO SAY FROM WHEN WE TURN IT ON.

YEAH.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, UH, COUNSEL, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU ANYONE.

SO WOULD SHERRY, WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS THAT REFLECT, REFLECT THOSE ITEMS OF MAKE SURE THE WARRANTY IS CORRECT, MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS CORRECT.

MM-HMM .

SO COUNSEL, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT.

SO TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT, CORRECT? WITH THE WARRANTY AS WELL AS THE UPDATED LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT.

RIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCRUE CONTRACT WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS TO REPLACE THE CHILLER AND OTHER HVAC EQUIPMENT AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING AND REPLACE THE AERATION BLOWERS AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5.142 MILLION WITH THE CONTENTION OF UPDATED CONTRACT WORDING AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE WARRANTY STATEMENT.

OKAY, WE'VE GOT A MOTION A SECOND.

SECOND ALL.

I'LL SECOND MY COUNCILMAN BUELL.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO, NONE.

OKAY.

SO FOUR TO ONE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT,

[3. Approve the engagement of Crowe LLP as the city’s audit firm for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2026, for financial requirements in an amount not exceeding $72,750. – James Bryson ]

LLP IS THE CITY'S AUDIT FIRM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 20, 26 FOR FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, $72,750.

JAMES BRYAN.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, SIR.

SO CHAPTER 1 0 3 REQUIRES A SINGLE OR A, UH, AUDIT ANNUALLY DONE BY A CPA FIRM.

WE WENT OUT FOR RFP BECAUSE CROW HAD BEEN WITH US FOR THREE YEARS ALREADY.

UM, WE HAD FIVE COMP, FIVE AUDIT FIRMS INTERESTED.

THREE ACTUALLY BID ON THE, UM, PACKET.

UM, THAT WAS WHITLEY, PENN, PATELLO BROWN, AND HILL AND CROW, OUR EXISTING FIRM.

I DID REACH OUT TO LOCAL, I CAME AND HELD TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN NOT HEAR A RESPONSE.