[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME FROM YOU TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING.
OF COURSE, I'M NOT MAYOR SELF, SHE'S OUT ON VACATION WITH HER, UH, ANNIVERSARY, CELEBRATING, AND BOSTON.
BUT, UH, I'M JOHN BAKER MALE PRO TEAM, AND I'LL BE DECIDING TONIGHT.
AND BEFORE WE START TONIGHT, CAN WE TAKE A SILENT MOMENT FOR, UH, ANDY ANDERSON, WHO SERVED US AS A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN FOR 50 YEARS.
AND MAYOR REINHART CAN PAUSE FOR A MOMENT, PLEASE.
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON WILL MEET ON MONDAYS, OCTOBER THE FIFTH, 2026 IN THE REGULAR SESSION AT 6:30 PM AT 25 OAK DRIVE, LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS LAKE, JACKSON CITY HALL, ALICE CHAMBER.
ALICE, ALICE, ROGER CHAMBER COUNCIL CHAMBER WITH THE FOLLOW AGENDA.
AND WE WILL HAVE OUR PLEDGES LEAD.
AND I LIKE TO CALL UP PAYDEN AND HIS SISTER DODSON TO LEAD US OFF IN THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE MCC THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
APPOINT THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
THOSE ARE TWO STUDENTS THAT ATTENDED ESPORT CHRISTIAN SCHOOL HERE IN LAKE JACKSON.
AND LIKE I SAID, THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING OUT AND WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL FOR DOING THAT FUSS ON TONIGHT.
[INVOCATION ]
IMPLICATION.AND NEXT WE'LL HAVE MY ASSOCIATE PASTOR, PASTOR RON PENA, WHERE HE'S AT, FIRST UNITED MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
IF WE CAN BOW OUR HEADS PRAYER.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY OF LIFE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, HEAVENLY FATHER, I PRAY THAT, UH, WE BRING TO YOU LORD, UM, FIREFIGHTER AND ANDY ANDERSON, A HEAVENLY FATHER AS SIR, 50 YEARS AS A VOLUNTEER, UH, FIREFIGHTER.
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU PLEASE BE WITH HIS FAMILY AND HIS FRIENDS AS THEY CONTINUE TO MOURN THE LOSS OF HIM.
LORD, GIVE THEM PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING.
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU, UH, WE BRING UP TO YOU MARY REINHARDT HEAVEN.
FATHER, UH, GIVE MARY REINHARDT'S FAMILY PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING AS, AS WELL, LORD, KEEP THEM BOTH IN OUR MEMORIES.
HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, I WANNA COME TO YOU AND ASK THAT YOU PLEASE JUST BE WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING THE CITY, LORD, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, BE WITH THEM AND BLESS THEIR FAMILIES.
HEAVENLY FATHER, BE WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, BAKER, HEAVENLY FATHER TO THE CITY, SECRETARY TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY, LORD, BE WITH ALL THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY SERVING.
BE WITH THE CA UH, CAPTAIN, UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, HEAVENLY FATHER, THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LORD, THE FIRE CHIEF.
LORD, BE WITH ALL THOSE THAT ARE SERVING ALL THE, ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS, ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
KEEP THEM ALL SAFE AND BLESS THEM, AND NOT ONLY THEM, BUT THEIR FAMILIES.
HEAVENLY FATHER, BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, LISTENING AND BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AS WELL.
LORD, I PRAY, LORD, THAT THOSE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE MAYBE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING, HEAVENLY FATHER, THAT YOU ENTER THEIR LIVES, LORD, COME INTO THEIR MINDS AND SOFTEN THEIR HEARTS OR BE IN THEIR HEARTS, LORD, AND COME INTO THEIR LIVES.
LET THEM SURRENDER ALL THEIR PROBLEMS TO YOU.
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU PLEASE BE WITH THIS MEETING, LORD, GIVE THOSE THAT ARE HERE AND THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED, CLARITY, GIVE THEM WISDOM AND GIVE THEM HUMILITY.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO OUR PRAYER TONIGHT, AND WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS' NAME.
PASTOR HAYDEN, YOUR SISTER, Y'ALL CAN STAY HERE TO, OR Y'ALL CAN BE EVEN GET READY FOR SCHOOL TOMORROW, Y'ALL.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
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NEXT THEY BRING US UP TO PRESENTATIONS.NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO VISITOR COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY VISITOR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? NO VISITING COMMENTS LIKE THAT.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT THIS PART HERE.
DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING? ANY COUNCIL MEMBER? YES, SIR.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
WE'LL HAVE CONSENT.ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THE ITEMS AS LISTED AND CONSIDERED GENERAL THAT'S, UH, ROUTINE FOR CITY COUNCIL THAT MAY BE, UH, APPROVED WITH ONE MOTION.
AND AT THIS TIME, WE, I MOVE FURTHER.
ANY MOVE FOR APPROVAL, CONSENT, AGENDA ONE THROUGH 11.
SECOND, TAKE OUT A MOTION BY COUNSEL, BU ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HARRISON.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, WE JUST JERK.
WELL, WE GONNA MOVE THAT TO THE MOVE.
JUST, YEAH, IF YOU COULD PULL IT AND JUST, UM, OKAY.
JUST IF YOU COULD AMEND THE MOTION ONE THROUGH 11 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER SIX.
YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION, SIR? COUNCIL, HE'S THE ONE THAT DID IT.
HE'S THE ONE THAT MARKED ON SIX.
YOU LIKE TO AMEND A MOTION, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AND AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH 11 WITH EXCEPTION OF NUMBER SIX.
ALL IN FAVOR? SO NOW WE GONNA MOVE DOWN TO THE REGULAR
[6. Authorize the City Manager to approve purchases through Amazon Business through Omnia Partners not to exceed the amount of $150,000. ]
AGENDA, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE SIX.ITEM SIX, ITEM SIX IS GONNA BE FULL, IS GONNA BE THE FIRST ITEM.
MR. VIRGINIA, WHAT IS OMNI PARTNERS? SO I'M PARTNERS IS THE BUSINESS ENTITY WE USE, UM, UH, THROUGH, UM, UM, THROUGH AMAZON, UH, BID GOODS AND STUFF.
BUT THEY'RE THE BUSINESS UNIT THAT WE USE, UH, THROUGH THEM.
SO THAT, UM, OUR CREDIT CARD PURCHASE, THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE, UM, THAT WE USED TO PURCHASE OUR AUTO DUTY.
WHEN YOU SAY GOOD, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFFICE SUPPLIES OR IT CAN BE ANYTHING.
IT CAN BE A PART OR ANYTHING THAT WE, UH, WE CAN'T USE SO THAT, UH, WE NOT ABLE TO HERE LOCALLY OR WE CAN GET A BETTER PRICE.
NO, THIS, THIS IS THE, WE DON'T PAY THEM.
THIS IS THE LIMIT THAT WE CAN GO, THAT YOU ALLOW US JUST SPEND TO GO, WE CANNOT SPEND ANY MORE THAN $150,000 THROUGH AMAZON, BUT IT'S THROUGH, IT'S THROUGH THE OMNI BUSINESS.
UH, GUESS IT'S THEIR BUSINESS ON THAT WORKS THROUGH IT.
BUT, UH, YOU'RE GIVING US THE AUTHORITY TO BUY THE AUTHORITY TO BUY NO MORE THAN 150,000.
THAT'S LIKE A MUNICIPALITY PART OF THAT.
OR LIKE, THAT'S WHAT OMNIA IS LIKE A MUNICIPALITY GROUP.
SO, UM, IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR GOVERNMENT.
OH, AMAZON CONGLOMERATION, ISN'T IT? UM, THAT'S WHAT MODESTO SAID, SO.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
SO, BUT THESE BUSINESSES, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY'RE ON BUYBOARD, UM, TIPS AND ALL THAT, THEY HAVE, THEY GET IN WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THESE PURCHASING CO-OPS.
AMAZON IS, UH, PART OF THE OMNI PARTNERS CO-OP.
SO, WHICH THEY SAME AS THOSE OTHER ONES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR THREE QUOTES OR BIDS AND STUFF.
BEING ONE OF THOSE PURCHASING CO-OPS, THAT MAKES IT EASIER.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A HEAVY USER.
FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, GET A MOTION
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TO APPROVE AGENDA.MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE PURCHASES THROUGH AMAZON BUSINESS, THROUGH OMNIA PARTNERS NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $150,000.
CAN GET A SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY MR.
[1. Authorize the City Manager to execute a contract with Presidio Custom Metal Works under TIPS USA Contract #260501 and #260504 for 88 dog condos and 40 cat condos, with delivery and installation not exceeding $550,848 for the Lake Jackson Animal Control Center. – Riazul Mia ]
THE REGULAR AGENDA.I FIRST AGENDA, IT'S GOING BE, BE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGERS TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH PRESIDIO CUSTOM METAL WORK ON THE TIP SA CONTRACT ITEM 2 6 0 5 0 1 AND 2 6 0 5 0 4 FOR 88 DOG CONDOS AND 40 CAT CONDOS WITH DELIVERY AND INSTALLMENT NOT TO EXCEED 5, 500, 500 50,000 OR $848 FOR THE LIKE JACKSON ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER CHIEF.
WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD CONDOS.
IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE A NICE PLACE TO STAY.
UH, CERTAINLY LESSONS LEARNED, UH, FROM THE FIRST TIME AROUND, UH, 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO.
UH, WE HAD NOTHING BUT TROUBLE WHEN WE USED, UH, LESS THAN ADEQUATE MATERIALS TO BUILD THOSE CAGES IN THE OLD BUILDING.
AND IT AFFECTED EVERYTHING FROM DRYERS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WALLS ALWAYS HAVING TO BE REPAIRED.
THIS IS, UH, A, A GOOD STANDARD, UH, IN THE INDUSTRY FOR, UH, FOR HOUSING.
UH, YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN, IN FIVE, 10 YEARS FOR SURE.
YOU DON'T WANT MAINTENANCE INVOLVED IN IT.
UM, SO THAT REPRESENTS, UH, STAINLESS FRAMES.
THEY DO HAVE SOME, UH, HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE, UH, SEPARATIONS, UH, IN THOSE AND A TOP.
AND, UH, THIS QUOTE ALSO INCLUDES WHICH PREVIOUS ONES HAD NOT, UH, INSTALLATION AND SHIPPING.
THEY HAVE PRETTY GOOD WARRANTIES.
UH, THEY HAVE A ONE YEAR WARRANTY AND SO WE CHECKED ON THAT.
UH, YOU'D, YOU'D HAVE HOPED A LITTLE MORE, BUT I THINK THE HOLD UP THERE IS WITH CARING FOR ANIMALS ON THE DAILY, YOU HAVE CUSTOMERS OR USERS THAT WILL, UH, USE CAUSTIC CLEANINGS.
UH, WE, WE'VE, WE HAD THAT ISSUE IN THE OLD BILL AND WE WERE CONSTANTLY REPLACING METAL DOORS AND FRAME LIKE THAT.
UNDERSTAND, UH, 'CAUSE IT WAS TOO HARSH CLEANING CHEMICALS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE STANDARD.
UH, I ASKED TO SEE IF THAT COULD BE EXTENDED SOME WAY.
THIS, IS THIS A ZPA HOT CAGE? I MEAN, THE CONDOS GOING, UH, YEAH.
THAT'S A SIMILAR, UH, WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
ARE THERE SOLID BREAKS BETWEEN THOSE? YES.
UH, ANOTHER THING YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THERE'S, UM, AMAZINGLY MANY OF 'EM CAN CLIMB OUT.
SO THERE IS A, A MESH TOP AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S A, A FAIRLY GOOD REPRESENTATION.
THAT'S FAIRLY GOOD REPRESENTATION.
NOW THE WHITE PAINTED THAT, IF THAT LOOKS WHITE, OURS ARE STAINLESS.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU DON'T GO UP THERE, CAN'T HEAR YOU BACK THERE.
I THINK THE PICTURES, YES, THESE ARE ONES WE SENT OVER.
THAT'S A FAIRLY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, MINUS THOSE DON'T HAVE TOP PREVENT.
THE ONES WE USED TO HAVE HAD TOPPERS ON, THEY HAD THE ONES THAT WERE GETTING, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TOPPERS.
THEY ALSO HAVE A, UH, DRAIN COVER OH.
ON EACH KENNEL TO PREVENT THE ANIMALS, ANIMALS FROM.
SO WAS THE STUFF LODGED IN THERE AND GET, GETTING IN THERE UNNECESSARILY.
SO DURING THE TOUR, YOU MENTIONED TO US THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME BEDDING TO STAY HOME.
THERE'S SIMILAR STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S LIKE A PVC, LIKE INCLUDE IN THIS QUOTE? OR IS THAT SEPARATE QUOTE? THOSE ARE NOT IN THIS QUOTE.
THOSE ARE THE PURCHASED MINE OPERATION ABOUT THAT BLUE THING IN THE BACK.
THAT'S SORT OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY KIND A SLING.
THEY CALL LIKE A LOG BAG OR DOG GA.
UM, AND WHAT KIND OF FLOORING WILL THEY HAVE? THE FLOORING CONCRETE.
IT'S NOT DIRECTLY TO EASY CLEAN.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE COVERS ON JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA HOUSE, WE ARE GONNA HOUSE SMALLER DOGS TOO.
UH, AND THEY CAN EASILY GET THEIR FEET STUFF DONE THEIRS AND SOMETHING IN HERE.
MY, MY CONCERN IS IF YOU JUST COUNT THE NUMBER AND THE PRICE, THERE'S ONLY $5,000 A PIECE.
UH, MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY CALL 'EM CONDOS.
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SO ABOUT THAT'S REFERRED TO THE CONDOS ARE THE CAT UP CAT BOXES.SO WHAT WE BIDS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THIS.
AND IT, IT IS A UNIQUE PRODUCT AS WELL.
AND SO, AND A LOT OF STAINLESS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'VE EVER WORKED AROUND A PLANT, YOU HAVE TO GET STAINLESS FITTINGS AND VALVES.
BUT, UH, THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PRODUCT, UH, DRIVES THE PRICE A LOT.
JUST NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING IT AND REALLY NOT A LOT OF DEMAND.
UH, SO THEY JUMPED IN ON THAT MARKET AND THEY CHARGED FAIRLY WELL FOR IT.
DID Y'ALL SELECT THE LOWEST QUOTE? THIS IS THE LOWEST.
MANUFACTURING THE UNITED STATES, THEY'RE MANUFACTURED IN CITY OF TEXAS ARE MANUFACTURER, THE MANUFACTURER HERE IN TEXAS.
UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ACTUAL OWNER HIMSELF MEETING HIM.
AND UH, ACTUALLY HE'S THE ONE THAT PROVIDED THE LAST QUOTES BECAUSE HIS CELL NEW ONE, UH, THAT GUY LIVED IN WASHINGTON STAYED.
SO, UM, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A PRETTY LONG TIME.
I THINK HE SAID 20 PLUS A YEAR.
AND IF YOU LOOK UP THEIR WEBSITE, YOU CAN LOOK AT, THEY HAVE A WHOLE CATALOG OF, OF DIFFERENT PHOTOGRAPHS.
THOSE ARE, THEY'RE ALL WELDED HPPE.
UM, THEY'RE EASY, THEY'RE EASILY CLEANABLE.
UM, OURS WILL HAVE A GREEN FACE ON THEM, WHEREAS THIS IS LIKE A WOOD GRAIN.
I THINK THEY'RE JUST GOING WITH THE CITY COLOR'S GREEN.
AND THEN THE REST OF IT'S GONNA BE WHITE.
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S INJURED OR HAS SOMETHING NORTH COLOR WE CAN SEE.
HI, CAN YOU GO TO THE
I THINK REALLY THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REDUCE ONE OF THE SMALLER BATCHES, WHICH IS KIND OF, UH, WE, THAT YELLOW WALL IS NOW A PETITION WALL THAT THE STATE IS REQUIRING US TO PUT IN.
UM, WE STILL NEED A SET OF CAGES, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF CAGES IN THAT SIDE.
SO I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ONLY REMOVE 17.
BUT AFTER TALKING TO THE CHIEF AND LIEUTENANT MS. ESTRO, I THINK THEIR LONG TERM RECOMMENDATION IS OUR WORRY THAT A YEAR FROM NOW WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND HAVING TO BUY THOSE 17 PAGES.
UM, ON THE, ON THE QUANTITY SIDE.
OPERATIONALLY AS THE, THE NUMBER, THE CAPACITY GOES DOWN, IT, IT INCREASES OPERATIONAL DIFFICULTIES FOR SURE.
VANESSA, CAN YOU GET CLARITY FOR ME? WAS THIS A VOTER ITEM AND WAS THIS A BOND ITEM? YES.
UH, THE, UH, THE, THE BUILDING WAS A VOTER ITEM.
AND SO IT'S NOT IN THE BUILDING SCOPE.
THIS IS WHAT WE PUT IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, UH, TO FUND THE, THE CAGES AND EQUIPMENT.
SO WE'RE FUNDING CAGES OUTTA CIP, UH, COMPUTERS OUT OF THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, BUDGET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DRYERS AND STUFF OUT OF EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.
SO WE'RE HITTING BOND ISSUE CAPITAL AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FOR THE TOTAL BUILDING.
WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORICAL NUMBER OF DOGS AND CATS FACILITY? OLD FACILITY, I CAN TELL YOU OUR INTAKE NUMBERS FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SOFA, OCTOBER ONE TO CURRENT IN, THINK I CHECKED IT FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH BECAUSE I WAS WORKING ON THROUGH FOLKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TRYING TO MAKE SOME DEALS THERE.
UM, I THINK WE WERE SOMEWHERE AROUND TOTAL INTAKES 530.
IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND 530 TO 540 ANIMALS.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT BEING CATS ACTUALLY.
UM, BUT STILL A LARGE AMOUNT OF IT BEING WHITE PLUS THAT ONLY, THAT ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE DOGS THAT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN TO OUR TRAILER FACILITY AND HELD DURING THE DAY OR A COUPLE DAYS AND PEOPLE COME AND RECLAIM THEM.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A PRETTY HIGH RECLAIM.
THAT'S PROBABLY A NUMBER AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO GRASP THAT NUMBER.
UH, IT WOULD BE VERY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT SOLID INTAKE NUMBER.
UH, BUT THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM, UH, OVER THE LAST DECADES, UH, OF GETTING A TRUE LAKE JACKSON WHO'S BRINGING ANIMALS IN.
UH, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET COOPERATION AND SEPARATING THAT NUMBER.
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THIS IS WHY WE'VE FOCUSED ON THOSE THIS YEAR THAT WE ABSOLUTELY CHECKED IN OURSELVES.UH, BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT JUSTIN'S TALKING ABOUT IS ANIMALS THAT WE RECOGNIZE WHO THEY ARE.
WE MAY BRING 'EM TO THE TEMPORARY TRAILER, WHICH WAS, UH, ACQUIRED JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE, TEMPORARY, UH, AND THEN TURN RIGHT AROUND AND GIVE THEM BACK.
UH, 'CAUSE WE KNOW WHOSE THEY ARE.
DO YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH KLU? DON'T WE? I'M SORRY.
IS THAT, WHO ARE WE TAKING FROM IS KLU TODAY? THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES IS WITH THE SPCA FOR THAT FACILITY.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS FREEPORT AND KLU WILL BE EXTENDING WITH THE SPCA, UH, TO USE THAT, UH, FACILITY.
THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL ONLY BE OUR, THIS WILL BE OURS.
HOPE THAT REALLY SAVES ON BOTH THE WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR BUILDING AND YOUR PERSONNEL.
HISTORICALLY, IN MY MIND, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISING, UH, THIS FROM SINCE ABOUT 2014, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEVEN TO 800 ANIMALS A YEAR IS WHAT I USUALLY FIND.
SO CAN YOU HELP ME? MAYBE WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PER DAY THAT YOU HAVE? YOU'RE DOING A BREAKDOWN.
IT FLUCTUATES BECAUSE DURING THE SPRINGTIME YOU HAVE MORE CAT INTAKES.
'CAUSE CATS ARE GIVING KITTENS.
YOU TALKING ABOUT A, SO IT JUST FLUCTUATES OVER TIME.
AND THE AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION? YEAH.
SEE THAT'S A HARD NUMBER FOR US TO GET BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS AGREEMENT FOR SO LONG, THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DIRECTLY IN OUR HANDS.
WE KNOW WHEN WE TAKE 'EM, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW LONG THEY'RE THERE.
UH, AND HOW MANY IS IN OUT BY TIME OF DAY? AT MOST POPULAR, I FIND THESE ANIMALS AT NIGHTTIME.
HOW? RIGHT AROUND THIS TOWN ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T SEE DOGS RUNNING AROUND.
WELL, PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT CALLING BECAUSE THEY'LL GET INTO THEIR STUFF OR COME, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T LET THEIR OWN DOG OUT.
THEY'LL CALL ALL THE TIME AND THEN WE'RE PROACTIVE.
I CALLED THEM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES.
THE TRUCK'S THERE AND WE'RE DRIVING AROUND IF WE SEE 'EM OUT, UH, WE TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT, BUT I FIGURED CATS WILL BE ALL LOT AT NIGHT.
AND AFTER A STORM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU FINALIZE STRAIGHT.
HOW, HOW LATE DO YOUR OFFICER STAY OUT TO, UH, 16 AND THEN AFTER 6:00 PM THEN THE PD? YES, SIR.
THAT'S A SERVICE A LOT OF CITIES DON'T, DON'T PROVIDE.
I KNOW, I, I, MY IN-LAWS STILL HAVE A DOG.
I PICKED UP
AND I CALLED THE PD JUST LIKE IT WAS OUR PD.
SO, UH, WE'RE PROUD TO DO THAT AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AS LONG AS WE HAVE A PLACE TO TAKE 'EM AND PUT 'EM SOMEWHERE.
MAKE SURE THEY'RE ANY MORE DISCUSSING.
I WAS ANSWERING THIS QUESTION.
UH, THE QUARANTINE WE HAVE HERE HAS SIX.
THEY USE IT FOR GENERAL POPULATION AS WELL, SOMETIMES OR SICK OR INJURED AND QUARANTINE.
UM, BUT I'D SAY IN THE BACK, I THINK IT'S 75.
UH, AS FAR AS YOUR DOG CAGES, WE CALL 'EM EASILY.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO 82 FOR CURRENT SITUATION AND FUTURE GROWTH CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CAGES THAT THEY HAVE ON THE NEW, UH, COVER? OR IS THAT STILL THEY STILL HAVE CAGES UNDER THE COVER.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY THEY HAVE OUT THERE.
I THINK THEY HAVE SOME DOGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TRY TO PUT AS MANY OF THEM UP AS I CAN, BUT THEY'RE LIMITED ON, THEY'RE LIMITED ON SPACE.
UM, SO I REALLY, THEY'VE HAD EVERYTHING UP TO A GOAT THAT I KNOW OF RECENTLY, SO MM-HMM
I'M NOT REALLY SURE THE NUMBER.
WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.
WE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE A MOVING TARGET GOING IN, BUT I THINK, UH, OPERATIONALLY, UH, THIS IS A SUFFICIENT NUMBER.
SO MR. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING TODAY, WHEN WE INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT WE WERE, WE, WE'VE EVEN HAD THIS CONVERSATION OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, MONTHS AGO OR, YOU KNOW, DID WE CUT BACK? AND WHAT DID WE CUT BACK? THE CHALLENGE NOW IS THE STATE HAS MADE US BUILD THIS ION WALL, YOU KNOW, FOR QUARANTINE REASONS, IS THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST CUT THESE OFF BECAUSE IF WE DO HAVE TO PETITION THIS FRONT END, MOVE SOME BACK, WE NEED A GROUP OF CAGES HERE.
UM, AND THEN IF WE TAKE ONE OF THESE, UH, BAGS OUT, THAT'S REMOVING A LOT OF CAGES.
WHAT YOU HAVE OVER HERE IS YOUR GENERAL, I CAN'T DETERMINE ANYTHING ELSE.
GENERAL POPULATION, HEALTHY ANIMALS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY, UH, VETTED AND ARE IN AND A WAITING DISPOSITION.
THIS WALL WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE ANY SICK OR INJURED ANIMAL, UH, HAS TO BE SEPARATED FROM
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THIS POPULATION.AND AS AN INTAKE, YOU'RE, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THEM VETTED, UH, AND TAKEN CARE OF AND EVERYTHING.
SO YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE OKAY TO PUT OVER HERE.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CAGES HERE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE SET OF CAGES.
THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE.
THIS, THE, THIS IS THE, IN THE INTAKE PREP AREA, MORE OR LESS, NOT, NOT, NOT QUARANTINE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENFORCING US TO PUT THE WALL OUT TO HERE THOUGH.
DO WE PLAN ON, AND, YOU KNOW, DISEASE CAN SPREAD QUICK IN A DENSE POPULATION.
SO UNTIL THEY'RE ALL OKAYED, THEY STAY OVER HERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS MANY FOR HOUSING, GENERAL HOUSING.
MS. THA, DO WE EVER PLAN ON OPENING OUR, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER TO OTHER COMMUNITIES TO USE? NO.
I MEAN, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UH, HAPPENED TO THE SPCA AND THEY COULDN'T AND THE OTHER CITIES WERE ASKING US, AND WE, YOU KNOW, YEARS FROM NOW, WE KNEW THAT WE HAD CAPACITY THAT COULD BE ENTERTAINED BY FUTURE COUNCIL.
UM, BUT, SO I CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE WE'RE NOT PARTICIPATING.
WE, WE DIDN'T GO INTO THIS PLAN THINKING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE COMING TO US
OUR INITIAL, OUR INITIAL PLAN WHEN WE TALKED TO THE BOND ISSUE WAS THE INITIAL DESIGN HAD OTHER COMPARTMENTS WHERE THE, THE CITIES COULD BUILD THEIR OWN ADDITION.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD THE ADOPTION AREA OR OFFICES, BUT THEY COULD BUILD THEIR OWN SET OF CAGES AND THEN THEIR PEOPLE COULD MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR SECTION.
I REALLY THINK THAT IN THE END, IF SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, TO THE SP CI THINK ALL THE COMMUNITIES ARE PROBABLY BETTER SERVING OF HAVING THEIR OWN FACILITIES.
AND THEY TAKE AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT.
THIS WOULD PUSH OUR CAPACITY IF WE TRIED THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP.
AT THIS POINT, UH, WHEN P GAL FIRST DID A, A DESIGN, THERE WAS A FRONT OFFICE AREA, IF YOU WILL, UH, WHERE THE ADOPTION AREA AND, YOU KNOW, INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC.
THE OFFICERS HAVE THEIR ROOMS AND THEN THERE WAS WINGS.
AND THEN IT WAS AN OPTION THAT IF ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES WANTED TO PARTNER, THEY COULD COME BUILD THEIR OWN WING, HAVE AN OFFICE SPACE ALREADY, BUT THEN MANAGE THOSE WINGS.
UH, THE PRICE WAS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE.
THEY WEREN'T REALLY, UH, READY OR, UH, REALLY TALKING ABOUT IT VERY STRONGLY.
SO THEN WE TRANSITION TO THIS.
IF WE HAVE NO OTHER DISCUSSING ANYONE ELSE? WELL, I GUESS JUST ONE THOUGHT.
UM, I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE LIVED IN AN AREA WITH SO MUCH INDUSTRY AND SO MANY TALENTED WELDERS AND OTHER FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE PRACTICAL TO JUST HAVE A LOCAL WELDING COMPANY BUILD THESE THINGS? I WOULD THINK IF 5,000 BUCKS A PIECE THAT COULD DO IT MUCH CHEAPER THAN THAT, WE WOULD HAVE FIRST MEAN IT DOESN'T LOOK WELL, THE STAGING IS GONNA BE THE EXPENSIVE PART.
I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH THE MATERIALS AS THE STAGING TO PRODUCE THESE THINGS ON, LIKE A COOKIE PRINTER, GO INTO FREEPORT WELDING, THEY'D PROBABLY END UP CHARGING US $250,000 JUST TO STAGE TO PRODUCE THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO COME OUT WITH THE CORRECT SETUPS, THIS CORRECT STAGING, THE CORRECT MANUFACTURING PROCESS.
AND I'M, I'M, TRUST ME, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH 550,000 EITHER, BUT I DON'T, I KIND OF ALREADY LOOKED INTO LOCALS AND ONE, THEY'RE ALL VERY BUSY.
TWO, THE STAGING TO BE ABLE TO PREP IT AND DO IT, BEING THAT THEY'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE, COMPARED TO A VESSEL THAT THEY HAVE BLUEPRINTS FOR ALREADY, THEY HAVE CAD FOR ALREADY.
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART BECAUSE IN THOSE PANELS, LIKE WE DIDN'T ELECT TO GO THIS WAY.
WE WEAR IT FIRST, YOU CAN BACK TO BACK OR, UH, THEY'RE CALLED, UH, THE GUILLOTINE DOORS BETWEEN.
SO LESS HANDLING OF ANIMAL, YOU COULD MOVE IT TO ANOTHER ONE IF YOU LIFT THAT DOOR.
BUT THOSE DOORS ALONE WERE 800.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID.
I THINK, AND, AND I'M WITH YOU BECAUSE I'M A DO IT MYSELF, KIND OF, KIND OF PERSON.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I GOT BACK PROBLEMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT, UH, WELL, IT HASN'T ALWAYS WORKED OUT WELL.
IT'S RIGHT, BUT IT'S TRIED AND TRUE.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT AND THAT'S WHY THEY CHARGE WHAT THEY DO.
UH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, BEING A GOOD STEWARD, IF THERE WAS A A A BETTER WAY AT, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT THAT.
BUT I THINK THIS IS, UH, AND, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO, UH, GO INTO OPERATION.
UH, I THINK WE TRUST SOMEONE THAT'S DONE IT AND GIVE US OUR
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY THOUGHT, BUT I'VE BEEN BURNED TWICE THIS YEAR, UM, ON BEING MARRIED TO TWO PRODUCT OR TRYING TO MARRY TWO PRODUCTS THAT WEREN'T
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REALLY TRIED AND TESTED WITH THE, THE PANEL SYSTEM ON THE BUILDING AND THEN THIS SL, TECHYOU KNOW, MAYBE ASKING SOMEONE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE NEVER BUILT.
WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ORIGINAL SEPARATING PANELS AT THE EXISTING BUILDING IS WE HAD A NEW PRODUCT AND WE THOUGHT THIS IS GONNA WORK.
AND IT IT WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA TAKE CARE OF SOUND AS WELL.
AND THE ANIMALS JUST TORE THROUGH IT.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE LITTLE PELLETS THAT WERE EVERYWHERE.
IT JUST THINGS LIKE THAT, I GUESS.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE TRIED AND TRUE, THE TRUSTED.
IF WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, IF NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CAN WE GET A MOTION NUMBER ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NUMBER ONE AS WRITTEN.
WE GOT MOTION BY COUNSEL HARRINGTON AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL LER.
MOTION PASSED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[2. Authorize the City Manager to execute a contract with Cunningham Recreation for a new all inclusive playground at Dunbar Park not exceeding $840,439. – Robin Hyden]
TWO, AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH INGHAM RECREATION FOR A NEW AL INCLUSION LABOR.SEE, EIGHT THOUSAND FORTY FOUR THOUSAND AND THIRTY NINE, ROBIN.
SO BEFORE I KIND OF GET INTO THIS, I WANTED TO GO OVER THE PARK IMPROVEMENT BOND AND THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE DID SINCE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A FEW YEARS, AND A LOT OF YOU ARE NEW.
SO I DID DO A SLIDESHOW PROMISE.
WE'LL TRY TO KEEP IT, UM, FAIRLY QUICK.
OUR, MY BEAUTIFUL ASSISTANT HERE IS GONNA HELP ME.
UM, SO FOR PART OF THE PARKS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UM, AFTER THE 2016 MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UM, IT HAD IDENTIFIED SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED IN OUR PARKS.
UM, AND THEY RECOMMENDED SE SEVERAL HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS.
UM, HOWEVER, SO WE WERE TRYING TO BUDGET THROUGH SOME OF THIS, THROUGH THE HALF SHELL TAX EACH EACH YEAR.
THIS WAS WITH THE PRIOR DIRECTOR.
UM, BUT FLOODING, I THINK HARVEY, COVID, OTHER THINGS KIND OF GOT IN THE WAY AND ALL THESE PROJECTS HAD GOTTEN DELAYED.
SO, UM, FROM MY, WHAT I WAS TOLD THEN, THAT THEY WENT TO THE LJDC AND WITH CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY APPROVED TO DO THE $3.5 MILLION BOND ISSUANCE THROUGH THE HALF SINCE SALES, UH, FUND AS PART OF OUR 20 21 22 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET.
SO THESE WERE THE, THE, UH, PROJECTS THAT THEY PUT IN ORDER, AND THEY WERE WITH THE FORMER DIRECTOR IN THEIR PARKS BOARD AT THAT TIME.
THEY PUT THIS LIST INTO, UM, A PRIORITY LIST OF THE ONES THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
UM, THE, BEFORE THESE PROJECTS EVEN STARTED, OUR FORMER DIRECTOR HAD LEFT.
AND SO BEFORE HE LEFT, HE HAD WENT OVER THESE WITH ME.
UM, AND THE WAY THE LIST WAS PUT TOGETHER WAS THE CONDITION AND SAFETY OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES, THE EQUIPMENT, THE COMMUNITY NEED USAGE AND OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AFFECTED THESE PROJECTS.
TO DATE, WE'VE DONE 10 OF THE 13 PROJECTS.
THERE'S THREE PROJECTS LIKE THE DUNBAR PLAYGROUND, MCLEAN RESTROOM, AND THE DUNBAR FOOTBALL FIELD.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE HISTORY ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
ANOTHER PART OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM THE 2016 MASTER PLAN WAS SELLING, UM, 1.5 ACRE ACRES OF PARKLAND LOCATED ON LAKE ROAD IN TIMBER CREEK SUBDIVISION.
UM, IT'S THOSE TWO LOTS THAT WERE ON LAKE ROAD, WHICH WAS A REALLY BUSY AREA.
THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK ACCESSIBILITY.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PLAYGROUND, THERE'S NO TREES.
I MEAN, THE PLAYGROUND WAS RARELY EVER USED AND STUFF.
SO THE VOTERS DID APPROVE IN MAY 22 TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF THOSE TWO PARCELS.
AND THE PROPERTY SOLD FOR $267,700.
AND THAT MONEY WENT INTO THE PARK FUND, UM, IN, WITH AN EARMARK FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO TIMBER CREEK PARK OR DUNBAR PARK.
BEFORE WE COULD SELL THAT PROPERTY THOUGH, WE HAD TO MOVE THAT PLAYGROUND AND WE MOVED IT TO THIS OTHER SECTION WHERE THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND IS NOW.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE MOVED THE PLAYGROUND TO.
UM, AND THIS PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARDS HAS APPROVED BUDGETING $250,000 TOWARD OUR DUNBAR PARK PLAYGROUND.
I SAW AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THE TIMBER ONE THAT WAS, YOU SAID IT'S NOT, NOT DONE YET.
THAT ONE THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT, ONE OF THE REASONS, SO IF YOU LOOKED ON THE LIST OF THE PRIORITIES, TIMBER CREEK WAS DOWN FURTHER THAN DUNBAR, BUT IT, THE ASTERISK WAS TO SHOW, WE ENDED UP MOVING THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAD TO SELL THAT PROPERTY FIRST.
SO THAT ONE, IT WASN'T AS BIG OF A PRIORITY, BUT WE DID MOVE THAT UP ON THE LIST, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE CAN ONLY USE THOSE FUNDS IN CERTAIN AREAS.
ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN WAS TO DEVELOP A SET OF STANDARDS FOR OUR PLAYGROUNDS.
SO ALL OF OUR NEW PLAYGROUNDS NOW, THEY ALL COME WITH SOME KIND OF INNOVATIVE DESIGN, UM, THAT IS A MORE USABLE SPACE FOR ALL ABILITIES.
UM, CONCRETE CURBING AROUND THE PERIMETERS AND NOT THE
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PLASTIC THAT YOU'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WHICH IS SAFE SO MUCH.UM, WE DO AT LEAST 50% OF THE, UH, PIP FALL PROTECTION SURFACING, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN REALLY, UM, GREAT.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALWAYS HAVE AN A DA COMPLIANT PATHWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE PLAYGROUND.
SOME OF THESE OLD PLAYGROUNDS, IT'S, I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE SO FAR BACK.
I'M LIKE, HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO 'EM? YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE DID.
SO IF YOU SEE, THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PLAYGROUNDS WE DID WAS PECAN PARK, WHICH IS OFF OF CROCUS STREET.
UM, THAT PLAYGROUND WAS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION AND WE WERE TEARING IT DOWN.
SO WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE TIMBER CREEK PLAYGROUND.
UM, THE TIMBER CREEK PLAYGROUND IS ACTUALLY, HAS A BIGGER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN SOME A LOT OF THE OTHER POCKET PARKS DO, BUT THIS IS THE ONLY PLAYGROUND IN THAT AREA FOR ANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2004, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, HAD AN WAY TO GET THERE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WAS ADDED TO THIS PROJECT LIST, UM, WAS TO ADD A, UM, CONNECTING EASEMENT FROM STRAWBERRY LANE.
IS THAT STRAWBERRY DRIVE TO TIMBER CREEK DRIVE? THERE WAS THIS ALREADY CITY HAD AN EASEMENT THERE AND PEOPLE WERE USING THAT ALREADY.
UM, BUT TO GET FROM STRA THAT, THAT SUBDIVISION, THEY HAD TO GO UP LAKE ROAD ON THE BUSY ROAD.
I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE GLOW ROCKS.
IT ACTUALLY IS CUTE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT GLOWS OFF THAT WAY.
HOW, HOW'S THE GLOW TRAIL WORKING? THOSE ARE THOSE, THOSE ARE SPECIFIC ROCKS THAT WE PUT INTO THE, IT'S LIKE AN AGGREGATE ON THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND IT, THAT WAS TAKEN RIGHT AFTER WE DID IT.
IT, IT, I THINK IT GLOWS FOR LIKE AN HOUR OR SO AFTER THE SUN GOES DOWN.
BUT, UM, IF WE WOULD'VE PUT A FEW MORE ROCKS, BUT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CAN, WERE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD BE TOO BRIGHT IN THEIR BEDROOM WINDOWS.
BUT IT IS KIND OF A COOL LITTLE PATH.
SO, SO ARE THEY GETTING A LOT OF USES OVER THERE? YES.
IT'S THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS BETWEEN THE MAILBOXES.
SO WE DO, AND, AND I'LL KIND OF GO INTO THAT TOO ON SOME OF THE PLAYGROUNDS AND ALL OF THE NEW PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE HAVE, UM, ON THAT.
SO THE NEXT TWO PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE PUT IN WERE, UM, GARLAND PARK AGAIN, WHICH WAS ONE THAT WAS, WAS SLATED TO BE, UM, TO TORN DOWN.
UH, BOTH OF THOSE, I'D SAY JASMINE GETS USED A LOT MORE.
UH, GARLAND STILL DOES GET USED.
THE ONLY COMPLAINT I'VE HAD, THEY WERE SO EXCITED TO GET THIS NEW PLAYGROUND.
THE ONLY COMPLAINT I'VE GOT AT GARLAND IS I WISH WE WOULD'VE PUT A COVER OR MORE SHADE.
WE LOST SO MANY TREES OVER THE YEARS.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S, GIVE ME EXACTLY WRONG.
I, I JUST MAKE PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S A PARKING LOT SOMETIMES, BUT, UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INNOVATIVE DESIGN, IF YOU LOOK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, ALL OF THE NEW PLAYGROUNDS NOW COME WITH THINGS THAT ARE, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FOR INCLUSIVE.
UM, WE SAY INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUNDS.
THERE'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT MO UH, MODULES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT KIDS FOR DIFFERENT ABILITIES AND, UM, COGNITIVE ISSUES AND STUFF CAN USE.
BUT THIS SHOWS YOU THE PORT IN PLACE.
WELL, RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD DONE JASMINE, WE HAD, WE POSTED ON THERE SOME OF THE PLAYGROUNDS, AND I HAD SEVERAL, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT SAID, WELL, THAT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD A PATH TO GET TO THE SWINGS FOR THE A DA SWINGS.
SO TALKING WITH THE PLAYGROUND COMPANY, WE DEVELOPED, WE PUT A PATHWAY TO THOSE, A DA SWINGS, AND THEN THEY EVEN POURED A LITTLE PARKING LOT.
THEY WERE GONNA PUT A LITTLE HANDICAP THING THERE FOR ME, BUT WHERE PEOPLE COULD SET STROLLERS OR THEIR WHEELCHAIRS ONCE THEY GET OUT, SO THEY'RE NOT SITTING IN FRONT OF THE SWINGS.
SO THESE WERE THINGS WE THOUGHT ABOUT.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ADDED INTO A LOT OF THE PLAYGROUNDS, THE RAMEN MM-HMM
ON ALL OF THESE PREVIOUS ONES.
WHERE WE'VE MADE IT, IT AS AFFORDABLE AS WE CAN.
WE'VE, WE'VE DONE ONLY A PORTION OF IT WITH THE BOARD IN PLACE.
MOST OF IT IS UNDER THE SWINGS.
WE DON'T DO, UM, JUST TO SAVE MONEY.
THE, THE, THE FALL PROTECTION IS, IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, TO THE EWF, THE, WHICH IS PLAYGROUND MULCH, YOU CAN'T JUST USE REGULAR MULCH.
WE DO HAVE TO USE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REPLACING CONSTANTLY.
AND AFTER ALL THAT RAIN AND STUFF, IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY, UM, USED TO, IT MIGHT BE EVERY OTHER YEAR WE WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF GO IN.
WE CAN'T USE THE MULCH AT THE MULCH OVER.
NO, YOU CANNOT USE THAT MULCH.
A SPECIFIC MULCH THAT YOU USE FOR THOSE PLAYGROUNDS, DO YOU FOLLOW THE TILL INSTRUCTIONS ON THE MULCH WE USE THERE? THE TILL INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS? YEAH.
THEY HAVE TILL INSTRUCTIONS TO RE FLUFF IT.
DO WE FOLLOW THAT? WE DO, WE DO GO OUT THERE AND DO SOME, I, I CAN TELL YOU, WE CAN GO OUT AND WE FIX THIS IS, UM, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO CORRECT SOMETHING ON THIS.
WE CAN FIX THINGS ON THE, UNDER THE, THE SWINGS.
AND THE NEXT DAY THERE'S ANOTHER HOLE THAT DEEP AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT DOES GET TIME CONSUMING.
I CAN'T SAY WE DO IT DIRECTLY AFTER AND STUFF, BUT YES, WE DO TRY TO DO THAT.
BUT SOMETIMES WE JUST GET, YOU KNOW, AFTER BURL, IT WAS JUST SO MUCH, IT JUST FLOATED AWAY, YOU KNOW? UNDERSTOOD.
BUT WE DO, YEAH, WE DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE OUT THERE.
AND THE GUYS REALLY, THE CURBING HELPS US TOO.
UM, IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER TO MOW UP AGAINST THOSE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN AGAIN, THE PIP SOMETIMES
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YOU GET THESE PLAYGROUNDS AND IT JUST, IT'S JUST, WE JUST SO HARD TO CON CONTROL THAT.AND THEN YOU DON'T WANNA SPRAY, YOU KNOW, WITH KIDS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LITTLE THINGS.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST TWO PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE DID WERE FIREMAN'S AND CAPTAIN TERRY PARK.
UM, THESE WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE REGULAR PLAYGROUNDS.
I, WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO PLAYGROUNDS ALL THE SAME AND STUFF.
BUT WE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING THAT STIMULATED, YOU KNOW, THE IMAGINATION AND ENCOURAGED KIND OF DIFFERENT ACTIVE PLAY.
UM, THESE ARE MADE OUT OF A LONG LASTING, I'M GONNA SAY THIS POLY FIBER CRATE, WHICH IS A CUSTOM SYNTHETIC SANDSTONE, AND IT'S LIKE EIGHT INCHES THICK, AND THEN THEY'RE PAINTED, CUSTOM PAINTED.
SO ANY AGE OR WHATEVER, THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE FINDING AT THESE TWO.
UH, ESPECIALLY AT FIREMENS, A LOT OF THE OLDER KIDS, IT'S A SMALL AREA, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF TEENAGERS THAT WERE HANGING NOW PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND.
WELL, THAT OLD PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WAS FOR YOUNGER KIDS, AND SO IT WAS CAUSING DAMAGE.
THIS, THEY CAN HANG ON IT AND DO WHATEVER.
UM, THE, WHEN WE STARTED WITH CAPTAIN TERRY, THIS ONE'S WHAT I'M KIND OF PROUD OF, BUT, UM, I HAD TOLD THE DESIGNERS ABOUT THE HISTORY AND WHO IT WAS NAMED AFTER, AND THEY DID RESEARCH ON HIM.
SO WHEN THEY DID PAINTED THE PLANES, THE, UM, THE ONE PLANE THEY PAINTED TO REPRESENT HIS, THE SPIDER JET THAT, UM, HE WAS FLYING.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE OPERATION HOMECOMING, UH, PLANE THAT BROUGHT HIM HOME.
BUT THESE ARE COMPLETELY SOLID.
UH, PIP SUR SOLID, UH, PIP SURFACING.
AND THAT PARK IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE ON OAK DRIVE.
NO, CAP FIREMAN'S IS OFF OF VE COURT, KIND OF IN THAT WAY.
AND THEN, UM, CAPTAIN TERRY'S ON FOREST LANE THAT THURSDAY.
THAT'S TH YEAH, BUT, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE MOVED IT, SO THAT PARK OWNS IN AN L SO YEAH, KIND OF CLOSE, BUT IT'S AROUND THE CORNER ON FOREST OAKS LANE.
SO, UM, AND THEY'RE ALL USED QUITE A BIT.
SO, UM, THEN THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS, THIS GETS INTO OUR RESTROOMS. THE, THE FIRST TWO FACILITIES THAT WE WANTED TO DO THAT WERE HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST WERE THE PEEWEE, UM, CONCESSION STAND AND BATHROOMS OVER AT THE PEEWEE BALL FIELDS.
AND THEN, UM, AT THE DUNBAR PARK RESTROOMS, UH, BOTH OF THOSE WERE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE AND, AND THERE WASN'T MUCH WE COULD DO WITH THOSE.
SO WE DID, UM, DEMOLISH THE OLDER BUILDINGS AND CAME IN WITH THESE, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTED, UM, RESTROOMS THAT CAME FROM MARBLE FALLS ON A CRANE, AND THEY SET 'EM IN PLACE.
BUT, UH, THE PEEWEE CONCESSION TEAM CAME IN LIKE THREE PIECES.
BUT, UM, AND THEY'VE, WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD LUCK WITH THOSE.
THOSE, AND THEN THE LAST TWO RESTROOMS WERE THE JUNIOR SERVICE LEAGUE AND THE GARLAND PARK RESTROOMS. UM, BOTH OF THESE ARE SMALLER UNISEX RESTROOMS. THE GARLAND PARK WITH THE TENNIS COURTS AND THE, AND TENNIS COURT PICKLEBALL COURTS OUT THERE.
TH THEY GET QUITE A FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT PLAY AGAIN WITH THE PLAYGROUND.
SO THE RESTROOMS WERE REALLY, UM, A, A BIG ASSET TO THAT PARK.
AND THEN WITH JUNIOR SERVICE LEAGUE, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT PLAY IN THE EVENINGS OUT THERE.
AND WITH THE GAZEBO THAT WE RENT, THIS REALLY ADDED TO THAT TOO, TO MAKE MORE PEOPLE WANNA RENT IT AND STUFF.
SO THIS TELLS YOU, SO THIS WAS HOW, WHAT THE, UM, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT I RECEIVED GOT FROM THE, UM, THE PAST DIRECTOR HAD PUT TOGETHER FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS VERSUS WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS.
COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ADDED TO THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
AND HE HAD KIND OF ANTICIPATED THIS WHEN HE WENT OVER IT WITH ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE PRIORITY LIST OF IF WE GO OVER THIS IS WHAT STUFF WOULD BE, UM, FOR ALL OF THE RESTROOMS, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING COSTS BECAUSE WE HAD TO COME IN AND DO THE ENGINEERING FOR ALL OF THE, THE WATER LINES AND ELECTORAL AND EVERYTHING THAT WENT TO THAT GEOTECHNICAL TESTING, UM, CONSTRUCTION BOND, CONSTRUCTION OF PAYMENT BONDS, THE PEEWEE AND DUNBAR.
THEY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE HAVING TO REDO ALL OF THE WATER LINES AND THE SORT THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THOSE BUILDINGS WERE BOTH SO OLD THAT WE COULDN'T LOCATE SOME OF 'EM.
AND SO IT GOT TORN OUT AND IT WAS JUST, THEY NEEDED TO BE FIXED.
UM, WE HAD ADDITIONAL SITE PREP.
SOME OF 'EM, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS WE HAD TO DO REMOVE TREES OR LARGE STUMPS, UM, SOME OF THE RESTROOMS TO GET THE CRANES IN.
WE HAD TO GET, UM, THE GUY, THE BIG SPIDER LIFT TO GET TRIM TREES, 50 FOOT UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE SINCE 2022 OF PLAYGROUND COSTS WENT UP QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY AFTER COVID, EVERYTHING REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STARTED GOING UP.
AND THEN ADDITIONAL COST OF THE TIMBER CREEK, UH, GLOBE PATH WAS AN ANOTHER ADDED THING.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE $736,849 LEFT IN THE BOND FUNDS.
THE ONE PROJECT THAT WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, CHANGED FROM THE TIME WHERE THE TIME THE DUNBAR FOOTBALL AREA WAS BEING HEAVILY USED.
IT WAS, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT TOO, ABOUT THE DEFERRED AND THAT.
AND THAT'S CHANGED A LOT WHERE WE'VE TAKEN THE BUILDING DOWN AND PUT PORTABLE AND WE PUT A NEW STORAGE MM-HMM
BUT IT JUST WASN'T HAVING THE SAME USAGE TODAY.
THAT IT WAS WHEN WE FIRST WERE PLANNING.
SO, BUT BACK THEN, SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT KIND OF GOES OVER
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A LITTLE BIT OF WHY WE'RE AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE WANT TO REEVALUATE OR DEFER THE DUMBBELL FOOTBALL RESTROOMS. BACK WHEN THEY DID THE MASTER PLAN AT THAT TIME, BREAST SUPPORT CHRISTIAN WAS PLAYING OUT THERE AND THEY WOULD DO FOOTBALL AND SOCCER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.UM, AND THEY'D HAVE A LITTLE CONCESSION STAND IF THEY NO LONGER PLAY THERE.
THEY MOVED EVERYTHING, I THINK IN 19 TO THEIR COMPLEX.
SO THE ONLY, IT'S ONLY REALLY USED ABOUT FIVE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WITH THE YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
AND THEY PLAY IT IS JUST FOR PRACTICES AND THAT'S IT.
SO WE, WE DID HAVE TO TEAR THAT BUILDING DOWN.
UM, IT WAS REALLY GETTING IN POOR SHAPE.
BUT THEN AFTER BURL THE ROOF, HALF CAVED IN, FINALLY JUST HAD A TOLL.
SO WE DID REMOVE IT AND WE ADDED IN A, A NEW TOUGH SHED TO PUT THEIR STORAGE AND STUFF THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A PORTABLE RESTROOM FOR THEM, WHICH IS, AGAIN, KEPT LOCKED.
THEY DON'T, WE DON'T OPEN THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
IT IS JUST LIKE THE OTHER BALL FIELDS, LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE AND STUFF ARE NOT OPEN UNLESS GAMES GO ON BECAUSE THEY MAINTAIN THOSE.
UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING SOME TYPE OF ENCLOSURE.
SO THE LITTLE LEAGUE DON'T HAVE ANY FOOTBALL GAMES THERE ANYMORE? NO, NO, THEY HAVEN'T PLAYED.
THEY THEY USE OTHER FACILITIES.
YEAH, THEY JUST PRACTICED THERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THE GAMES THERE.
UM, THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO DEFER IS GONNA BE THE MCLEAN PARK RESTROOMS. AND THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS.
UM, WE, THIS IS A BIG PART OF OUR 2026 MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS ON.
SINCE THE MASTER 2016 MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED, WE BUILT THE DOG PARK.
UM, THE SKATE PARK CAME IN, UM, AND THEN SOCCER MOVED ALL OF THEIR FIELDS THAT THEY WERE PLAYING IN RASCO.
THEY MOVED ALL OF THOSE FIELDS OVER INTO MCLEAN, SO THEY NO LONGER PLAY OVER THERE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT WITH THOSE ADDITIONS, AND SO MANY OF OUR HEAVILY USED AMENITIES LIKE THE PAVILIONS, THE, ALL THIS STUFF, IT'S JUST CRAMMED TOGETHER.
AND THERE'S, WE'RE LOSING RENTALS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO CONGESTED IN PARKING AND DIFFERENT STUFF.
SO WE'VE ESTIMATED MCLEAN, UM, RECEIPT GETS ABOUT 400,000 VISITORS ANNUALLY.
AND SO AT THAT PARK, WE REALLY NEED TO DO A REASSESSMENT OF SOME OF THAT TOO.
AND I CAN SHOW YOU JUST SOME OF MY ACCOUNTS.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET.
BUT WE ESTIMATED, AND THIS COMES FROM THEIR ROSTERS AND, AND, UH, THEIR SCHEDULES.
GIRLS SOFTBALL COMPLEX GETS ABOUT FOUR 44,000 VISITORS, UM, PER YEAR.
HEAVIEST USE IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAYS FROM FIVE TO NINE.
AND THESE ARE ESTIMATES, JUST AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT COUNTS.
THIS IS FROM WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN ME.
UM, AND THEIR HIGHEST USE IS FROM SATURDAYS AT 8:00 AM TO 2:00 PM ADULT SOFTBALL COMPLEX.
FROM THE GAMES AND THE RENTALS THAT WE HAVE, ABOUT 15,800, UM, BUSIEST TIMES EIGHT TO 10:00 PM AND THAT'S PROBABLY MAYBE TWO DAYS A WEEK.
I, I, I SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT ON THERE.
AND THEN SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS, WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WATCHING BETWEEN THE HOURS OF SIX TO 10:00 PM THEY GET A HUGE CROWD.
COULD BE A HUNDRED MORE PEOPLE THAT PLAY OUT THERE.
SO THE SKATE PARK BETWEEN FIVE AND 9:00 PM IF IT'S NOT TOO HOT, I MEAN, WE COULD GET AROUND 12,000 OR MORE.
I MEAN, I, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, THE FEW DATES THAT I KIND OF LOOKED AT AND TRY TO ESTIMATE, BUT I THINK THERE'S TIMES THAT IT GETS MORE.
AND THIS IS ALL AGES AND STUFF.
AND THEN THE DOG PARK, WE GET AROUND 21,000 BETWEEN FIVE AND 9:00 PM AND THAT COUNT CAME FROM A, A, ONE OF THOSE AI COMPANIES WAS TRYING TO SELL US THEIR STUFF A LONG TIME AGO AND THEY DID IT.
AND SO WE SAID, HEY, WHAT'S THE COUNTS ON THE DOG PARK? AND THAT WAS THE COUNT THEY GAVE US IN 2023.
AND THEY CAN'T USE THE RESTROOM AT THE REC CENTER UNLESS THEY'RE, THEY, WELL, THE SKATERS WE DO ALLOW SOMETIMES, BUT IF THEY COME IN WITH A HUGE GROUP SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, NO, NOT ALWAYS, BUT THE DOG PARK, PEOPLE KNOW 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T BRING THE DOGS IN.
SO, ROBIN, ON THIS MAP, CAN YOU TELL US WHICH ONES HAVE RESTROOMS NEARBY? SO LET ME GO TO THE NEXT MAP AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT TOO.
SO THIS IS THE, SAY, NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK.
THE, THE YELLOW STARS ARE WHERE THERE'S RESTROOM FACILITIES AND THAT'S GIRLS SOFTBALL COMPLEX ON THIS SIDE.
AND THEN YOU SEE ALL THE SOCCER FIELDS THERE.
AND THEN THE ADULT SOFTBALL FIELDS.
SO IF THEY'RE PLAYING ON THAT TOP FIELD UP THERE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DISTANCE FROM GOOGLE MAPS THAT THIS WORKS.
HOW DO I THING ON YOUR RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IF YOU GO FROM HERE TO THE RESTROOM, IT'S 730 FEET THAT THEY HAVE TO GO.
IF THEY GO TO THIS RESTROOM, IT'S 550, UM, FROM THIS FIELD OR FROM THIS FIELD HERE TO THERE, YOU KNOW, 485 FEET.
AND THEN IF THIS TO THERE, YOU KNOW, 620 GIRLS SOFTBALL.
AND THE REASON IT GOES, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH HERE, THERE'S FENCES.
SO IF THEY'RE PLAYING ON FIELD FIVE AND SIX, IT'S ABOUT 530 FEET.
AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK.
SO THIS IS WHERE AGAIN, ALL THIS NEW STUFF HAS COME IN AND IT'S REALLY AFFECTED IF YOU'RE AT THE DOG PARK.
AND THAT'S, IF THIS ISN'T FLOODED RIGHT HERE AND THEY CAN WALK THROUGH, IT'S 930 FEET ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO A RESTROOM.
IF YOU'RE AT THE SKATE PARK, YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO HERE.
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AND I CAN SAY NOT EVERYBODY WALKS AND THAT'S WHY OUR DUMPSTERS ARE LOCKED.SO, UM, BUT IT, IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
UHHUH
THE GIRLS SOFTBALL IS THE ONLY ONE.
I KNOW, YEAH, I KNOW THAT TO ME, THOSE ARE KEPT OPEN.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT PLAY, YOU KNOW, THAT USE THE FIELDS, THEY RENT 'EM UP UNTIL 10, SO WE DON'T WALK.
AND THEN THESE ARE ALSO OPEN TOO.
WHAT, WHERE IS YOUR PORTABLE LOCATED? PORTABLE.
DON'T YOU HAVE PORTABLE ON ONE? I HAVE ONE AT DUNBAR FOOTBALL FIELD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PORTABLE RESCUE.
SOMETIMES IF WE HAVE A RESTROOM ISSUE, IF A RESTROOM GOES DOWN BECAUSE OF THE USAGE, WE GET A PORTABLE TO COME IN.
I, I CAN'T, IF SOCCER, ONE OF THE BATHROOMS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS SHUT DOWN FOR REPAIRS, I HAVE TO BRING IN PORTABLES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE.
AND THESE RESTROOMS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY PRETTY SMALL FOR WHAT THEY NEED.
DOES GIRL SOFTBALL BRING IN PORTABLES? LIKE THEY DO.
THEY'LL BRING IN, YEAH, THEY'LL, THEY HAVE SOME PORTABLES THAT THEY KEEP OVER HERE, YOU KNOW.
UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BUT IT, IT'S HARD TO SAY WHO HAS THE MOST IMPORTANCE WHEN WE'RE ALL, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE FIGHTING FOR THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GO THROUGH.
AND SO ROBIN, YOU'RE ASKING THE CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW WITH THE THIS PARTS MEASUREMENT TO BE STUDYING THIS ISSUE? YES.
THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE, LIKE IF YOU LOOK ON THIS SLIDE, SO JUST AN EXAMPLE HERE, OKAY, WE HAVE FOOD.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS A, THIS USED TO BE THE CONCESSION STAND FOR THE ADULT FIELDS, BUT IT'S, SO IT'S GOT LIKE A LITTLE PLAYGROUND AND IT'S GOT THE RESTROOMS IN THERE.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE BIG PAVILION AND THEN THE FOOD SERVICE.
THIS IS JUST ALL CRAMMED TOGETHER.
SO ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE, UM, A BIG EVENT HERE, WE CAN'T RENT THIS PAVILION.
IF WE HAVE A BIG SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, WE CAN'T RENT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING.
AND THEN THIS IS ALSO THE ONLY OUTSIDE BASKETBALL COURT.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS PARKING OVER HERE, HALF OF THIS PARKING LOT COULD BE USED FOR SOME OF THESE AMENITIES.
AND I, MY SUGGESTION TO THEM, AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THINGS IS TO POSSIBLY MOVE SOME OF THESE THINGS AROUND.
LIKE, I WOULD THINK A PAVILION WOULD BE OVER HERE SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW? UM, I MEAN THERE'S JUST SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE CAN BRING UP, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH THEM ON.
BECAUSE IF, AGAIN, IF YOU ASKED ME TODAY, WHERE WOULD I PUT A RESTROOM, I CAN'T TELL YOU.
AND I DON'T FEEL PUTTING ONE, THERE WOULD BE THE RIGHT USE OF OUR FUNDS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.
AND I DON'T THINK ONE, YOU KNOW, ADDING ONE RESTROOM IS NOT, IS, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THE SYMPTOM OF THE LACK OF RESTROOMS, BUT IT'S NOT, THE MASTER PLAN IS GONNA REALLY GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PARK AS A WHOLE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
UM, I, WHEN, AND HONESTLY I'D SAY BEFORE THE SKATE PARK, AND SOME OF THIS WAS PUT IN, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO THINK WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE DO AND WASN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IN ADVANCE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, BECAUSE THAT MAYBE THAT WE DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T CONSIDER HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE USED OR HOW MUCH IT WOULD BRING TO THE PARK.
BUT MCLEAN IS, IS YOUR NEW REPORT GONNA BE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT NOW? TOMORROW NIGHT WE HAVE OUR OPEN COMMUNITY FORUM AND, UM, ONCE THAT WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN, THEY'RE GONNA START GIVING ME A LOT OF THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THIS IS, I CAN TELL YOU MCLEAN PARK IS GONNA BE SOMETHING, THE PARKING AND THE LACK OF RESTROOMS IS GONNA BE A BIG PART OF SOME OF THE COMPUTE, UH, COMMUNITY INPUT ON THAT.
SO WHEN IT'S A REPORT GONNA BE READY, UM, WORKING TOWARD, I BELIEVE FEBRUARY OR MARCH THE COMPLETE, BUT I MAY HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS TO BE ABLE TO REPORT TO Y'ALL.
I DID TALK TO THEM TODAY AND SEE IF THEY HAD ANYTHING AND THEY HAD NOT HAD ANYTHING YET.
SO, UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY WANT 'EM TO LOOK INTO IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT MAY NOT BE ADDING A RESTROOM HERE, IT MAY BE TAKING THE SOCCER PAVILION AND MAKING THAT ALL RESTROOMS AND MOVING ANOTHER, THERE'S ANOTHER SMALLER PAVILION IN BETWEEN THE FIELDS WHERE THE REFS CAN SIT AND HAVE SHADE.
I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO TO DO THIS.
SO, AND, AND THE PARK BOARD IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PARK BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED THIS, THE NEW PLAYGROUND YES.
OVER THE RESTROOMS FOR THAT, FOR THAT REASON.
AND THEY'D ALSO FEEL THAT, UH, AN ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT TOO.
SO, AND I CAN SHOW YOU ALL THAT TOO.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS FAST FOR Y'ALL.
SO THIS IS OUR EXISTING PLAYGROUND AT DUNBAR.
UM, IT'S OVER THERE, UM, UM, ON THE MIDDLE SECTION WHERE THE DIFF GOLF IS.
YOU CAN TELL THIS PLAYGROUND IS 25 YEARS OLD.
WE LOST A WHOLE SECTION DURING BOROUGH.
BIG TREE FELL, KNOCKED THE SWINGS OUT.
BUT THAT PLAYGROUND IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE PAVILION.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ANY RESTROOMS. UM, AND I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW, WE RARELY SEE PEOPLE ON THIS PLAYGROUND.
ONCE THE NEWER PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE, THAT HAD ALL THIS COOL, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO, PEOPLE HAVE REALLY MOVED TO THE OTHER PARK.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANNA
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MOVE THIS PLATE DOWN YES.SO WE WANNA MOVE IT UP TO THE FRONT.
SO DUNBAR IS LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, OFF 2004.
IT'S NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH SOME OF THE SCHOOLS DO USE THE PARK AT.
UM, THEY USE THE PAVILION 'CAUSE OF THE RESTROOMS. UM, BUT IT MAKES IT HIGHLY VISIBLE AND AN EASIER PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO TRAVEL FROM SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
UM, I THINK THE SECTION ONE IS GONNA BE THE BEST OPTION FOR THAT.
KIND OF GONNA BE, UM, MIGHT BE OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT, SO THE NEW PLAYGROUND WOULD BE IN THIS AREA HERE, THAT'S NOT TO SCALE.
UM, IS THAT RIGHT THERE WHERE WE JUST PUT A NEW FLAG POLE AND ALL OF THAT? YEAH, THE UH, YEAH, THE EAGLE SCOUT PUT THE NEW FLAG POLE THAT GOT TORN DOWN.
THE BIG THING IS, IS WHEN YOU'RE DOING ALL INCLUSIVE, YOU NEED SOMETHING TO HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE PARKING LOT.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO DEFINITELY BRING THAT IN, UM, AND THEN WE CAN GO, CAN GO BACK.
SO THIS IS, UM, AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND.
IT ALSO, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, A REGIONAL DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO.
SO WE HAVE A SHORT VIDEO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU, DOES A, IT'S ONE MINUTE.
CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE LOCATION? SORRY.
WHAT? WHY, WHY ARE THEY PULLING THAT UP? UH, I THINK THE DUNBAR PARK, WE, WE WANNA BRING IT UP.
BUT WOULD THAT PULL FROM THEON PARK? THAT'S, THAT'S THAN A MILE OR TWO FROM EACH OTHER? NO, I MEAN, YES AND NO, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SAY THERE'S SO MUCH LIMITED PARKING AT MORRISON PARK TOO, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.
A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA BE COMMUNITY PEOPLE USE ALL OF OUR PARKS.
SO I, THERE, IT'S FUNNY, WE DID, UM, IN THE SUMMER THROUGH PARKS AND REC MONTH, WE DO THESE POP-UP PARK PARTIES AND THERE'S THESE GROUPS THAT PLAY AND THEY HAVE PLAYGROUPS THAT GO AROUND THE CITY AND HIT UP EVERY ONE OF OUR PARKS.
THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THEY CAME TO THOSE EVENTS AND WERE TELLING US THESE THINGS TOO.
SO YES, FOR OTHER LOCATIONS YOU LOOKED AT IN THE PARK THAT WERE MAYBE CLOSER TO THE PAVILION THAT IS CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANNA MOVE IT AWAY FROM THE LOCATION THAT YES.
YOU'RE SAYING ANOTHER PLACE I COULD PUT IT WHERE IT'S NOT CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY.
UH, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU MOVING IT THERE, BUT, UH, ON THIS ONE, DID YOU CONSIDER MOVING IN THE GREEN SPACE THAT WAS CLOSER TO THE BAV VERSUS OH, ACROSS THE STREET THING? YEAH.
UM, JUST, THERE'S NO PARKING THE EXCEPT THAT NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THE REASON I DON'T WANT IT THAT CLOSE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE THEN THEY RENT IT.
THEY THINK THAT IT'S EXCLUSIVELY THEIRS AND IT'S NOT.
IT'S JUST LIKE AT MCLEAN YOU RENT THAT PAVILION.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PLAYGROUND.
RIGHT HERE, OR NO? YES, THERE IS SOME FENCING THERE TOO.
IT GOES UP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
AND I HAVE TO, IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE UNTIL WE GET THAT FLOOR, YOU KNOW, GET IT IN THERE AND PUT IT IN THERE.
BUT THE PLAYGROUND WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE A FENCE.
BEING AN INCLU ALL INCLUSIVE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT, UM, IS TO HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PUT IN THIS PLAYGROUND COMPANY WOULD NOT DO THAT.
WHAT IS THIS? UH, RIGHT HERE? THAT PLAYGROUND.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO SCALE, TO PUT IT NOW INSTEAD OF THE OLD YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT, I JUST KIND OF, YEAH.
WHAT'S DETERRING YOU FROM THE PREVIOUS LOCATION OF THE DUNBAR PLAYGROUND? UNDER THE BRIDGE, THERE'S NO PARKING.
THERE'S TWO TO THREE PARKING SPOTS, PERIOD.
YOU DO, BUT YOU THEN, THEN A PATHWAY TO THAT PLAYGROUND IS ALSO IT'S WAY, IT'S PRETTY FAR BACK IN THERE.
THIS THE OTHER NEW PLAYGROUND WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME OF THE SHADED AREAS.
WE'D HAVE THE SWINGS WITH THE SHADE OVER 'EM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MORE SHADED, UM, ADDITIONAL SHADE OVER THE OTHER FEATURES IN THE PARK.
AREN'T WE SPENDING $200,000 REPLACED SHADES RIGHT NOW AT BALL FLOW THAT GET TORN BY HURRICANE? THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, SO SHOW YOU THE VIDEO OF THE NEXT.
SO MR. VIRGINIA, YOUR CONCERNED IS THE LOCATION, UH, IT'S THE LOCATION.
NO, THAT, THAT CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY 2000 ZERO.
AND THAT, AGAIN, IT'S, IF YOU LOOK AT TECH STOCK TECH STOCKS, EXPANSION PLANS OF 2004 IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THAT PARK IS GONNA BE WITHIN 25, 30 FOOT OF THE ROADWAY.
WE, SO THE, I I HAVE NO, THE TS EASEMENT GOES SIX INCHES INSIDE THAT DITCH LINE.
THOSE THINGS ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN MOVE IN.
AGAIN, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S THERE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THAT CLOSE TO IT, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WAS TO SCALE.
SO WE DID TRY TO MEASURE IT OUT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND TAKE UP HOW MUCH OF THAT I'M ALL FOR THE PART.
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ADJUSTABLE.WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER AREAS, WE CAN MOVE IT CLOSER, WE CAN MOVE IT BEHIND, YOU KNOW, AROUND WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST THAT FOOTPRINT OF HOW THEY'VE DESIGNED IT.
UM, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALWAYS THINGS THAT ARE EASY ENOUGH TO DO.
YEAH, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER THAT SHOWS YOU THE EQUIPMENT.
IT ALSO HAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S INCLUDED, THIS IS ALL TURNKEY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SIX FOOT, A DA SIDEWALK AROUND THE WHOLE PERIMETER AND A 40 FOOT WALK OR, UH, WITH A CULVERT FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THAT PLAYGROUND THAT HAS THE CULVERT.
YOU CAN DIFFERENT ATTACHED SOMETHING ELSE TOO WITH THE PORT IN PLACE IS, UM, IT'S NOT EVEN JUST FOR MOBILITY, IT'S JUST HOW MANY GRANDPARENTS I TAKE THEIR KIDS AND CAN'T GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT TO SOMETHING.
I WAS THINKING UP THAT AS MY DAD'S PUSHING MY DAD IN A WHEELCHAIR THE OTHER DAY, I THOUGHT, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND DO THINGS YOU HAVE NEAR THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND WHERE YEAH.
WE'VE ALREADY PUT ACCESS TO ONE OF THE BENCHES THERE.
AND THE OTHER THING TOO, THERE'S NO RESTROOMS ON THAT SIDE.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH PUTTING RESTROOM THERE IS, OR WE WOULD'VE PUT RESTROOMS IN THAT SIDE, IS WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PUT IN A LIFT STATION FOR THOSE RESTROOMS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO.
BUT IN THE I THAT PLAYGROUND CAN MOVE DOWN IT, THERE IS OTHER AREAS THAT WE CAN MOVE THAT DOWN.
I CAN MOVE IT AROUND TO THE THING.
I WAS TRYING NOT TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE PRACTICE FIELDS, UM, THAT, THAT ARE THERE IN THAT SECTION.
BUT I MEAN, ANNA GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT CONTINUES TO PUSH ME BACK TO THE PRESENT LOCATION.
AND IT, THAT'S, IF THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE THAT THIS CAN GO BACK, THE PLAYGROUND CAN MOVE.
OH WAIT, WHY AM I BLOCKING? I HAVE A POINTER.
UH, BUT IT CAN MOVE THAT FENCE THING THAT SHOWS, THIS IS A REALLY OLD PICTURE FROM GOOGLE MAPS THAT THAT FENCING IS GONE NOW.
UM, SO THAT PLAYGROUND COULD MOVE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA.
I MEAN, IT COULD MOVE AROUND TO HERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE, THE, THE SHADE FROM THIS TREE ALSO FOR SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA HELP SOME, EVEN IN THE OLD LO THE LOCATION WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WITH THAT PLAYGROUND, WE'VE LOST A LOT OF TREES.
THEN IF YOU MOVE IT OVER HERE, THEN YOU'LL PARK IN TO GET, I WOULD HAVE TO PUT A LONGER SIDEWALK, BUT THAT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE WAS ALREADY A PATH THAT WENT TO THOSE OLD RESTROOMS THAT WE COULD COME FROM.
DO WE HAVE TIME TO WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT ON LOOKING AT THE LOCATION AND COME BACK? YEAH, I, THE, THE LOCATION IS OUR, IS OUR DECISION WHERE WE WANT IT TO GO? WOULD IT CHANGE THE PRICE? NO, NO.
IT MAY BE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PATHWAY THAT WE DO.
UM, BUT I, BUT YOU COULD BRING IT CLOSER TO THE PARKING LOT OR YOU COULD TUCK IT IN CLOSER.
YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THERE'S A DITCH HERE.
BUT YEAH, WE CAN MOVE IT UP CLOSER.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT, I JUST KIND OF SET THAT THERE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE LOCATION.
UM, AND, AND CLOSER TO THIS, WE, YEAH, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS WE CAN WORK ON WITH THAT.
AND IF I KNOW HOW, LIKE, IF TEXDOT IS COMING IN, I, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS, THEY WERE GONNA TAKE SOME OF THAT PARKLAND.
UM, HEY, THEIR, THEIR EASEMENT IS, YEAH, IT GOES THROUGH SIDE OF THAT THERE.
SO I, I, I WOULD, YEAH, RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO, SIR.
UH, WE GONNA HAVE A MOTION ON THIS.
SO WE ARE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO LATER.
THE, THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE WHAT THEY CALL A GRANT.
SO I'VE WORKED WITH TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
UM, THE FIRST COMPANY, I COULD NOT GET THEM DOWN UNDER 1.3 MILLION.
UM, THIS COMPANY, UM, THEY OFFER A CERTAIN, UH, KIND OF GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE WITH A DISCOUNT, BUT IT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY THE 23RD OF OCTOBER.
SO WE ARE KIND OF ON A TIME CRUNCH.
THEY GIVE YOU, IT STARTED THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER UNTIL NOW, UM, TO DO THIS.
SO YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
UH, COUNSEL, I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
SO YOU'RE HAVING THIS STUDY DONE FROM MCCLAIN AND IT'S GONNA COME BACK AND SO MUCH NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WHERE'S THE FUNDING COMING FROM THAT SINCE THIS BOND ONLY HAS $800,000,
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THE, THE FUNDING FOR MCCLAIN WAS ONE BATHROOM PERIOD.YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T TO FIX ALL OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PRESENT FOR THE HALF AND SALES TAX, ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE DO, MOST OF OUR PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE YEARS HAVE COME THROUGH HAVE SINCE SALES STOCKS IS USUALLY WE DON'T, NOT FROM GENERAL FUND MONEY.
SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? NO, SIR.
IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION ON THE REGULAR ITEM? GENERAL NUMBER TWO, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK LATER ON, UH, MOVING THE LOCATION IF THAT'S FINE WITH COUNSEL? YES, I CAN COME BACK.
AND ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN SHOW YOU WHERE WE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION? DO I HAVE A MOTION ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? WOULD ANY COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? LAST CALL? NO MOTION? YES, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THROUGH A CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT WITH COMING IN WITH CREATION NEW ALL INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AT DUNBAR PARK TO EXCEED 840,439.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL CRU SCHULA.
CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? HAVE A SECOND.
UH, COUNCIL, I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, THEN WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
MAYOR, COUNSEL, UM, WE WILL COME BACK YES.
WITH A ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, SEVERAL OPTIONS.
I'LL GET THE PLAYGROUND COMPANY AND EVEN THE COLORS IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
SO WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE WE YES.
I I WILL CONTACT THEM TOMORROW.
I HAD A WHOLE BIG PRESENTATION.
Y'ALL JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ME TALK TONIGHT.
I HAD STATISTICS, I HAD ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
[3. Discuss and consider approving Resolution No. 1024, adopting a 20% increase in building inspection fees. – David Walton ]
TO REGULAR ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER IMPROVEMENT RESOLUTION ON NUMBER 10 24, ADOPTING A PERCENT INCREASE IN BUILDING INSPECTION FEES.DAVID, HOW YOU DOING TODAY? I'M DOING VERY WELL.
UH, THIS IS COMING BACK OFF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO INCREASE OUR BUILDING PERMIT FEES AND TALKED ABOUT IT IN ACROSS THE BOARD, 20% INCREASE, UH, TO ALL THE FEES THAT ARE BEING CHARGED FOR, FOR BUILDING PERMITS.
ALSO IMPLEMENTING A REINSPECTION FEE FOR, UH, UH, WELL IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE FEE SCHEDULE.
ALTHOUGH WE, IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE HEALTH PERMIT FEES FOR THE REINSPECTION OF MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS.
COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? OBJECTION.
IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
YOU WANNA READ THE RESOLUTION? OH, I'M SORRY.
YOU NEED ME TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
UH, THIS QUESTION THOUGH YOU AGREE TO RESOLUTION FOR HAVE QUESTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 26, UH, 10 24.
WHEREAS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIRE MARSHAL FEES WERE AMENDED IN 2024.
WHEREAS THESE STUDENTS HELPED COVER ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, INCLUDING SALARIES AND OPERATING EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH PROCESS OF PERMITS AND WHERE THE COST TO PROVIDED SERVICES HAS INCREASED.
NOW THEREFORE, BEING RESOLVED BY THE COUNCIL OF BILL JACKSON WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PERMIT BEING SCHEDULED AS IS ATTACHED, IT'S EXHIBIT A AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE FEE SCHEDULE ATTACHES, IT WOULD BE ON CLEAR BODY COUNCIL
WELL, I GUESS WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD IT IN FEES? WE SECOND.
WHY 20% AT ONE TIME? IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT ONE TIME.
OKAY, THOSE ARE BOTH VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
SO THE, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL FEES WERE INCREASED IN 2019 AT THE BEHEST OF THE, UH, TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, ADJUSTING HOW A BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN, UH, ASSOCIATE FEES WITH, WITH RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
COMMERCIAL FEES WERE SLIGHTLY ADJUSTED IN 2024.
UM, AND WE'RE COMING BACK NOW BECAUSE THE AMOUNT
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OF REVENUES ALONG WITH THE, THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED HISTORICALLY IN THE 2020, THE 24 25 CALENDAR YEAR AND THE 25, 26, SORRY, UH, Y NO, SORRY, FISCAL YEAR, UH, HAS, HAS REMAINED ROUGHLY THE SAME, BUT IT'S STILL WELL BELOW THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS FOR TRYING TO KEEP THE, THE DEPARTMENT NEUTRAL BUDGET, BUDGET NEUTRAL, WHICH IS THE DIRECTION THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS PUSHING.THEY DON'T WANT A BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO BE A REVENUE, UH, SOURCE FOR A CITY, BUT THEY WANT A, A BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO PAY FOR ITSELF, UH, AT THE, UM, UH, EXPENSE OF THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK.
SO IT'S NOT A BURDEN ON THE, ON THE OVERALL GENERAL TAXPAYER, WE FOUND THAT A 10% INCREASE IN A 20% INCREASE KEPT US BOTH ROUGHLY WITHIN THE SAME, UH, BRACKET BETWEEN OUR LOWER END COMPARISON CITIES AND OUR HIGHER END COMPARISON CITIES.
UH, AND THE, THE OVERALL DIFFERENCE, WHILE IT IS, UH, DEFINITELY AN INCREASE IN OUR, UH, REVENUE PROJECTIONS, UH, ISN'T, UM, IT WOULDN'T, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE PERSONALLY THAT THAT GOING FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW UP 20% IS, IS GOING TO, UH, KEEP DEVELOPMENT FROM HAPPENING IN OUR AREAS.
WE ARE A PRIME TARGET FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOUTHERN BRAZORIA COUNTY.
WE'RE STILL VERY COMPETITIVE, UH, IN THE, THE OVERALL, UM, GROUPINGS OF, OF COMPARABLE CITIES, AT LEAST ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, YOU KNOW, GO PERMIT FEES USUALLY DON'T DE DETER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THE BUILDING FEES, UH, IN MY EXPERIENCE, THEY DON'T DETER EITHER.
AGAIN, MORE OF THE PUSH IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE REVENUE NEUTRAL, UH, UH, THAT THE DEPARTMENT PAYS FOR ITSELF AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE REVENUE WE BRING IN THE PERMANENT FEES, THE LESS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ON THE, ON THE GENERAL TAXPAYER.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WE'RE JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CUSTOMER WHO'S BUILDING IT TO PAY FOR THE TIME AND EXPENSE THAT IT TAKES IS TO GO OUT AND INSPECT IT.
SO WE WENT WITH THE 20%, THIS WOULD KEEP US PRETTY CLOSE TO WEATHER NEUTRAL.
NO, IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL BELOW THE AMOUNT THAT THE DEPARTMENT, UH, EXPENDS TO, TO OPERATE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 35 TO 40.
UH, I, YEAH, I, I, I LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS ABOUT 45% TO, TO COME EVEN WITH, WITH EXPENDITURES.
WHY ARE WE GOING FOR THAT NUMBER THEN? BECAUSE THAT AT 45% THAT IS, IS A VERY HARD PILL TO SWALLOW FOR RESIDENTS, MAINLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CAPTURE THE FUNDS TO, TO ADMINISTER THE DEPARTMENT, BUT HOW DO WE KEEP, UH, THIS ROOM FROM FILLING UP WITH PEOPLE WITH TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS? UM, SO, SO WE HAD REALLY TWO SETS OF, WE HAVE TWO SETS OF CUSTOMERS.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO'S A BUILDER WHO'S BUILDING A NEW BUSINESS AND OR A HOME THAT GETS KIND OF HIDDEN IN WITH THE COST.
AND THEN THE, THE OTHER CUSTOMER, WHICH IS A BIG CUSTOMER, IS A REMODELER WHERE THE HOMEOWNER'S COMING IN AND ASKING FOR THE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT AND THE PERMIT'S GONNA KIND OF BLEND TOGETHER.
BUT YOU HAVE TWO CUSTOMERS COMING THROUGH THE WINDOW, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER MEAN, EITHER WAY, THE PERSON THAT OWNS THAT HOME IS PAYING FOR IT.
EITHER THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT THROUGH THE PERMIT OR THEY'RE PAYING THROUGH IT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE FROM 'EM TO PAY FOR THE DEFICIT.
AM I WRONG? NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT WRONG.
YOU'RE ASKING EITHER, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO'S REMODELING THEIR KITCHEN TO PAY FOR IT, OR YOU'RE ASKING IF NOTHING, YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALL OF US TO PICK IT UP.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
LIKE, I, IF I'M NOT DOING HOME IMPROVEMENTS TO MY HOUSE, COUNCILMAN MULE'S NOT DOING HOME IMPROVEMENTS, WHY SHOULD HIM AND ME COVER THE NOW 24% DIFFERENCE? THAT'S MY CURIOSITY TO IT.
A AGAIN, I, IT'S A WORTHY GOAL.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY HAPPENED ON THE DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT ITEM WAS HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND, YOU KNOW, HOW FAST DO WE, WE GET THERE, WE STILL RECOGNIZE THAT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE MORE, BUT HOW, AND YOU KNOW, DO YOU RIP THAT BANDAID OFF ONCE OR DO YOU TRY IT IN TWO OR THREE YEARS? UNDERSTAND, THERE YOU GO.
THAT'S REALLY, IT'S JUST EYEBALLING.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE, THE, THE STANDARD ACROSS THE INDUSTRY IS, IS TO BE ON THE LOW SIDE.
MOST, MOST JURISDICTIONS, UNLESS YOU'RE PERHAPS THE CITY OF HOUSTON WITH, WITH, WITH HUGE DEVELOPMENTS, LOTS AND LOTS OF OF EMPLOYEES, UH, AREN'T CAPTURING THE NECESSARY REVENUES.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO GO UP 45%, THAT DEFINITELY PUTS US IN THE VERY UPPER TIER OF THE COMPARABLE CITIES.
AND IT MIGHT STIFLE, UM, YEAH, I I, I GET THE 45%
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IS A HECK OF A NUMBER, BUT EITHER WAY THEY'RE PAYING IT.YEAH, NO, I EITHER, THEY'RE PAYING IT, SO IT'S EITHER WE'RE BEING UPFRONT WITH THEM WHY THEY'RE PAYING THIS MUCH AND WE DON'T KICK 'EM IN THE TEETH NEXT TIME AROUND ON BUDGET TAX, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
AND, AND MS. BETHUNE, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR STANDPOINT WAS MOST DEFINITELY LOOKED AT, UH, AND, AND EVALUATED WHEN COMING UP WITH, WITH THE 20%, THE 20% WE THOUGHT WAS, WAS FAIR.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS EASY TO SWALLOW.
SO DAVID, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MOST, ALL THE PERMITS YOU HAVE? WHAT IS THE TYPICAL PERMITS BEING PULLED ON A ROUTINE BASIS? UH, WHAT TYPE OF PERMIT DO WE SEE MOST OFTEN? WE SEE RESIDENTIAL REMODEL PERMITS.
HOW MUCH ARE THOSE ON AVERAGE? UM, YOU KNOW, MR. HARRINGTON, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER.
I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT, THAT BACK OR, OR SEND THAT INFORMATION THROUGH, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
AND HE CAN, HE CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT.
UH, BUT I HAVE YOUR, I HAVE YOUR FEE SCHEDULE.
IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO TAKE THE FEE SCHEDULE AND SAY, WHAT, HOW DO YOU APPLY THIS TO A PERSON? SO, SO WHAT, WHEN WE, THESE ARE LOW DOLLARS.
WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, IT'S BASED UPON THE SQUARE FEET OF A, OF AFFECTED AREA.
IF A, IF A, IF A A, UH, SOMEBODY'S COMING IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUY AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GUT THE, THE PROPERTY AND, AND START OVER FRESH ON THE INSIDE, YOU TAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND APPLY THE, THE ALTERATIONS, UH, FEE, WHICH IS GOING FROM 30 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT TO 36 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT.
IF, UH, YOU HAVE A HOMEOWNER WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING A, A EXPANSION ON THEIR HOUSE, ACTUALLY ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHETHER IT BE A SCREEN PORCH, A POOL, A, A, A USABLE BEDROOM, AGAIN, THAT'S GOING FROM 45 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT TO 54 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT.
AND THAT'S IN LINE WITH HOW THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, TOLD US WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THESE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T WANT THE VALUATIONS, WHICH COULD DIFFER FROM, UH, LAKE JACKSON TO BEL AIR AS AN EXAMPLE, BEING SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED BY AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT OR SOME OTHER, UM, OUTSIDE AGENCY TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH PROPERTY TAXES MIGHT BE, OR, OR, OR VALUATIONS TO PROPERTIES MIGHT BE.
UM, SO DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE INVOLVED, AND AGAIN, WE TYPICALLY USE, UH, BASED UPON THE, THE PLANS GIVEN OR THE, THE, UH, UH, APPLICATION, WHAT'S DECLARED ON THE APPLICATION, YOU USE THAT AMOUNT TO DETERMINE, WELL, IF I'M INTERPRETING CORRECTLY, MOST OF THESE ARE NOAL FEES.
UM, SO SOMEONE'S BUILDING A, A LARGE HOUSE, IT'S LESS THAN $500, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TOO DIFFICULT TO HAVE AN INCREASE.
SO WE, I, WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND ON A TYPICAL 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE WITH A A 500 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED GARAGE, YOUR, YOUR DIFFERENCE IN FEES BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING IS ABOUT $499 ON A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOUSE.
NOW, COMMERCIALS TREATED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE DO USE CONSTRUCTION VALUATION TO DETERMINE COMMERCIAL.
AND SO DEPENDING ON THE, THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY WHO'S, WHO'S, UH, JUST RE UH, DOING A TENANT IMPROVEMENT ON, ON AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, IS, IS GONNA BE PAYING LESS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR THE REMODEL THAN SOMEONE WHO'S BUILDING A GROUND UP NEW, UH, RETAIL BOX.
DAVID, DAVID, UM, WE COME BACK WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, DATA.
CAN WE ANSWER LIKE HOW MUCH REVENUE WE BREAK OUT BY COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL? UM, IS, WOULD THAT BE MR. HARRINGTON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OR WOULD YOU WANT IT MORE SPECIFIC? I DON'T THINK I NEED ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I WOULD GO WITH COUNCIL IN JUNE THAT MAYBE 20% IS TOO LOW, MAY NEED TO BE INCREASED.
UM, BUT I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT'S WORDED TODAY.
WELL, SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, IT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED AMONGST COUNCIL WOULD BE A, UH, SET SET BASIS TONIGHT AND AN A-A-C-P-I INDEX INCREASE OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT JUST GENERALLY AUTOMATICALLY WOULD GO INTO EFFECT LIKE OUR, OUR SEVEN YEAR PROJECT OVER THERE BEHIND THE BIG BUCKETS.
I MEAN, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY PAID THESE FEES BASED OFF THE VALUE 'CAUSE THEY'RE COMMERCIAL SETUP, CORRECT? YEAH.
THEY, THEY, THEY PAID THE FEES BASED UPON, BASED UPON TWO THINGS.
ONE, A SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSESSMENT.
UH, YOU TAKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE, THEY'RE PROPOSING AND BA AND USE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AGAINST THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR CONSTRUCTION PER SQUARE FOOT IS PUBLISHED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.
AND THEN THAT SETS THE, THE, UM,
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NOPE, I I NEED TO RETRACT THAT.UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING PERMIT FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL DRILLING, YOU HAVE HAVE MULTI-FAMILY NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE BASING IT ON.
BUT IF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD'VE TOOK HIM 24 MONTHS TO BUILD MM-HMM
OR SEVEN YEARS TO BUILD, HAVE YOU VISITED THAT MORE IF IT'S TOOK SEVEN YEARS? WELL, YEAH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DO.
WE DID THE SUMMER REVOKED THEIR PERMITS AND THEY ARE PAYING NEW.
SO THEY LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS YET AGAIN, EVERYBODY ON HERE PAYS PROPERTY TAXES.
WHY SHOULD I BE COVERING THOSE SEVEN YEAR? WONDERFUL.
YEAH, I, I, I AGREE IN MOST CASES THAT THAT'S TRULY ANOMALY.
MOST OF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT GET PUT ON TIME.
AND WE STILL DON'T COLLECT OUR, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TO COVER OUR COSTS.
UH, BUT THERE, WHEN IT DEFINITELY TAKES TOO LONG.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S THE, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IS A SORE THUMB.
WE COULD TALK RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS THE EXAMPLE 'CAUSE IT'S STILL AN ONGOING ITEM AND I STILL SEE CONSTRUCTION STUFF THERE.
SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TO VISIT IT AND IT'S LIKE, AS YOU SAID, YOU DIDN'T REVOKE IT.
FINALLY IT'D HAVE TO MAKE THEM RE YOU KNOW, REPAY DA DA DA DA.
THAT'S, THAT'S ON TOP OF US HAVING TO COVER SOMEBODY'S NEW HOME.
THEY'RE BUILDING ON THEIR VALUE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING ONLY COVERING 60% OF THE 40% OF THE COMPANY OUT LOCAL TAX BASE AND WHETHER IT BE SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, TAX THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN TO THAT, TO BE HONEST.
I MEAN, I, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY WE NEED TO BE BEL AIR ON OUR FEES OR THE WOODLANDS ON OUR FEES, BUT COVERING OURSELVES TO BE NET ZERO, I THINK IS MORE JUSTIFIABLE TO ANYBODY THAT COMES IN HERE WITH A PITCHFORK AND LIKE, HEY MAN, YOU'RE NOT COSTING THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO YOUR BUSINESS, OR YOU'RE NOT COSTING THE PERSON WHO'S BUYING YOUR HOME MONEY ON THIS.
YOU ARE COVERING WHAT IT COSTS TO DO BUSINESS.
NOT COST PLUS 5%, COST PLUS 10% COST.
THAT'S KIND OF MY PET PEEVE TO THAT IS WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR THE GUY WHO'S BUILDING THE NEW HOUSE WHEN I'VE BEEN IN MY HOUSE 31 YEARS AND PAID IT OFF AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IS PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
I, I JUST, I THINK THAT'S A, AND I GET IT 20% ONE TIME AND THEN 20% IN THREE YEARS AND 5% IN TWO YEARS, WHATEVER.
IT MIGHT BE THE BREAKDOWN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S, I HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THESE BUDGET MEETINGS SAYING, WELL, WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR MONEY HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COVER WHAT WE'RE NOT COVERING WITH THESE FEES AND THESE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING.
IT, IT SEEMS A FIGHT FROM BOTH ENDS WITH NO, NO MIDDLE RESOLUTION.
IF NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, WE'RE HAVING TO COVER IT WITHOUT THE PERSON COMING IT THEMSELVES, THE DRIVEWAY.
LET US, LET US COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD HAVE TO BE.
I DON'T THINK WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, I THINK THAT WAS A PILL THAT WE THOUGHT NO ONE COULD SWALLOW.
AND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY, RIGHT? BUT, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE NUMBER OF WHAT IT COULD, SHOULD BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE CAN ANSWER THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T, THAT WOULD BE ULTIMATE COUNCIL'S DECISION OF WHEN DO WE GET THERE.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK TO, YOU NEED TO VOTE TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING.
BUT SINCE YOU HAVE A SECOND READING, YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO EITHER APPROVE IT OR ADJUST IT.
BUT WE GONNA DO FOR SECOND, THE FIRST READING FIRST TONIGHT.
THE FIRST WHAT YOU GONNA DEFER TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO YES, WE'LL HAVE TO READ IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS AN ORDINANCE.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE'S AN ORDINANCE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? IF NOT, DAVID? UH, WE'RE GONNA SKIP OVER ITEM REGULAR, AGENDA ITEM FOUR.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.
ITEM FOUR WAS, UH, I'M ASKING, UH, FOR THE FIRST READING ON THE ORDER TO BE ADOPTED VIS JUST SANITATION, THIS SANITATION, OKAY.
AND ITEM FOUR, WE'RE ASKING TO DEFER THAT, UH, BECAUSE ONCE WE LOOKED AT THE INCREASE, UM, IT WAS I THINK, TOO HIGH.
UH, AND SO WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH A, A PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT IS PHASED IN OVER TIME AND, AND GIVE YOU OUR RECOMMENDATION ON FOUR.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE GONNA BRING ITEM THREE AND FOUR BACK.
IS THAT OKAY WITH COUNSEL? YEP.
SO I HAD, I DID HAVE A, UM, MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND, OR THAT'S DEAD.
SO, SO WE'RE GONNA PULL IT ON NUMBER THREE.
[5. New Business Updates. – David Walton ]
FIVE, NEW BUSINESS UPDATE, DAVID.[01:25:01]
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE AN ONGOING LIST OF, OF APPLICATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE EITHER JUST OPENED.UH, WE HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR OR ARE STILL UNDER THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
I DID WANNA JUST BRING UP A, A COUPLE TARGET IS GONNA BE DOING AN INTERIOR REMODEL AND BRAD'S POINT FELLOWSHIP IS DOING A BUILDING EXPANSION.
THESE ARE BOTH, UM, NEW, NEW PERMITS APPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN THE OFFICE, UH, FOR REVIEW, FAT BURGER, ROUND TABLE PIZZA.
THEY HAVE COME UP WITH SOME, SOME ONSITE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR ON AS FAR AS GETTING THAT SHELL BUILDING COMPLETE AND GETTING THOSE, THOSE RESTAURANTS OPEN.
AND CHIPOTLE IS, IS GOING UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES.
I MEAN IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE READY FIRST CHIPOTLE OR THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE, ARE IN A RACE TO GET 'EM BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND WHAT, UH, KELSEY SEBO THE NEW APPLICATION PLAN? NO, KELSEY SEBO IS MOVING INTO WHERE JAKLIN FORD'S, UM, UH, QUICK LUBE WAS, IT IS NOT A NEW APPLICATION.
IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY UNDER, IT'S, I WAS JUST READING ONGOING.
YEAH, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING EXTERIOR MASONRY AND INTERIOR FRAMING RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WELL, THEY'RE WELL ON THE WAY.
THE MICRO HOSPITAL HAS PICKED UP THEIR PERMIT.
UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN, YOU KNOW, GROUNDBREAKING YET.
BUT, UM, AND THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND KELSEY, CORRECT? THAT IS, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT CORNER LOT ON THE CORNER ON, UM, WINDING WAY AND, UH, NO, SORRY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL ON DO BUSINESS UPDATE? NO, SIR.
[6. Staff updates: ]
AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER SIX, STAFF UPDATES.COUNSEL, UH, JUST, UH, WANTED TO TURN IT OVER TO ANNA.
SHE HAD, UH, A COUPLE UPDATES ON THE VETERANS PARADE.
UH, JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE UPCOMING BRAZORIA COUNTY VETERANS DAY PARADE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE THE HOST FOR THIS COMING PARADE.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 3 0 6 AND POST 2 41, ALONG WITH MR. HASSO AND SEVERAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, SO JUST TWO UPDATES, UM, TO ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE NOTIFIED THAT THERE WILL BE ROAD CLOSURES ALONG LAKE ROAD.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE PLACING A DOOR HANGER, UM, ALONG THE PARADE ROUTE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE ONE THAT LAURA MARIE WILL MAKE, BUT THIS IS JUST TO PRINT OUT.
UM, AND SO THIS IS JUST TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT ROAD CLOSURES WILL BEGIN AT 10:30 AM ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH.
UH, THE PARADE BEGINS AT 11:00 AM WITH THE PROGRAM AT 1:00 PM AT THE MCLEAN PARK.
AT 1230, THEY WILL BE PROVIDING FREE HOT DOGS.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST A BRIEF AT MCLEAN PARK? YES, EVERYTHING WILL BE AT THE PARK.
SO, AND SECOND UPDATE IS THAT THE BRAZOSPORT BREAKFAST LION CLUB WILL BE PLACING, UM, THE FLAGS ALONG THE PARADE ROUTE.
SO THAT, UM, IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE NOVEMBER 10TH, AND THEY'LL BE PICKING UP ON NOVEMBER 12TH.
SO REGISTRATION IS STILL OPEN FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE.
UM, IT'LL BE RUNNING TILL NOVEMBER 1ST.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, JUST COMMUNICATION GOING OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO JUST FEEL FREE TO SHARE THE WORD.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE.
SO MAYOR DANIEL, UH, THE ONLY OTHER ONE WAS THAT ROBIN, UH, REFERRED TO THE PARK SMASH PLANT WORKSHOP TOMORROW AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
SO IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE, AND TO MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TOO, SINCE IT'S ALSO A OFFICIAL NIGHT OUT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE STATIONS THAT YOU JUST COME THROUGH.
SO YOU JUST GO THROUGH AND THEY'LL HAVE INTERACTIVE KIND OF STATIONS.
SO YOU CAN STAY THE WHOLE HOUR AND A HALF OR YOU CAN JUST COME AND GO THROUGHOUT SIX, BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN 30.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S JUST CHEAPER FOR US JUST TO ADD FOUR DUMPSTERS AT CLE PARK.
HEY, I HAVE SOME OLD FIRE HYDRANTS I COULD PUT PLACE STRATEGICALLY IF YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.
NEXT IS A CITY ACTION MEETING.
UH, MAYOR WILL BRING BACK THE, UH, UH, PLAYGROUND DISCUSSION FOR THE LOCATION, UH, AND HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS FOR YOU.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
JUST LET YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT IT WOULD, UH, HE NEEDS TO BE TO FEES NEED TO
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BE FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT.[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]
ALSO CONDITION.AND THAT BRINGS IT UP TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY HARTON COUNCIL, HARTON, I I DO HAVE ONE.
UM, MAYBE CHIEF CAN CONFIRM THIS.
I HAVE ON MY CALENDAR THERE TOMORROW IS, UM, NIGHT OUT.
YES, HAVE A CLEAN PARK FROM SIX TO EIGHT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MUCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT I DID CONFIRM THAT'S OCCURRING.
SOMETHING TO COUNSEL AND MAYBE AN IDEA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR GUYS' THOUGHTS ON THIS, BUT MAYBE THE POTENTIAL MOVING INTO THE CIVIC CENTER SO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE PARKS AND HAVE MORE TURNOUT.
CHIEF, CAN YOU COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL WHERE ARE WE? UH, ABOUT A LITTLE ABOUT HOW NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, HOW, UH, BRIAN HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN HOWLING AT OR WHERE THEY LOCATED? WHAT, WHAT, WHERE THEY HOSTING IT AT? YEAH, CERTAINLY WE MOVED OVER TO CLE JUST BECAUSE OF THE SPACE FOR PARKING AND PEOPLE BE ABLE TO WALK UP AND FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH, UH, OTHER CITY FOLKS, DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE THIS A, AN EVENT THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE IN COMING IN.
UM, HAVEN'T REALLY ENTERTAINED SINCE ANY MEETING I'VE GONE TO MOVING IN OUT TO, TO THAT AREA.
BUT WE, SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT THIS YEAR WHEN WE, WHEN I PUT THE DATES DOWN FOR THE PUBLIC FORUM, THE COMMUNITY, OUR WORK COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, I HAD LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF OUR RENTALS AND LOOKED THROUGH EVERYTHING AND PD HADN'T PUT IT IN OUR CALENDAR YET FROM MCLEAN, BUT KIND OF OUR FAULT TOO.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE KNEW WE WERE DOING IT.
SO I I DON HAD SPECIFIC DATES AND THAT WAS REALLY THE SIXTH WAS THE ONLY OPEN DATE THAT I HAD FOR THAT MEETING.
IF WE WOULD'VE KNOWN, I WOULD'VE MOVED IT OUT THERE.
UM, THEN, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAND OUT STUFF 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE WILL BE THERE WITH THE PD.
UM, WE HAVE STAFF OUT THERE THAT HELP THEM WITH THIS EVENT.
SO WE'LL BE HANDING STUFF OUT AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO.
THERE'LL BE OTHER FORMS TOO, SO THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT HAVING TWO? YES.
UH, YEAH, IT'S HAPPENS SOMETIMES, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT WILL BE OKAY ON THAT TOO.
SO, UM, FOR THAT ONE DOES, IS THAT COUNCIL? YES.
COUNCIL NEGATIVE GHOST RIDER
ALL I HAVE IS, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY, UH, THAT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HERE TONIGHT, UH, ACTING AS MAYOR WHILE THE MAYOR IS OUT ENJOYING HERSELF.
BUT I LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE HAD JOINED IS THAT, UH, MY SON, UH, HE PASSED AWAY FIVE YEARS AGO AND IT WAS HIS DREAM THAT, UH, ONE DAY THAT HE WOULD SEE ME SITTING HERE AS, UH, BEING THE MAYOR.
SO, UH, I THINK AT THIS TIME HE'S PROBABLY HAPPY, SMILING DOWN AND LOOKING AT ME AND, AND I HOPE I MADE HIM VERY PROUD AND NOW HE CAN REST IN PEACE,